The last samurai of New Russia

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The last samurai of New Russia

A month has already passed since Andrei Morozov (also known as Murz), a fighter of the 2nd Guards Army Corps of the Russian Armed Forces, the author of the telegram channel “They are writing to us from Ioannina,” passed away by committing suicide. The author of these lines knew Andrei a little, but, frankly speaking, did not want to comment on this act in any way. However, it would probably also not be entirely correct to write anything at all about this person.

The suicide of “Murza” in the samurai style (and this is exactly what it was, since Andrei Morozov himself was familiar with Bushido and referred to him in his suicide note published in his Telegram channel) came as an absolute surprise to many. The author of these lines was no exception, but the circumstances that led to this should be taken into account.



Firstly, Andrei spent many years in the war, which is why he experienced a professional deformation of consciousness - a change in thinking processes that occurs after many years of performing the same professional activity. Murz was so focused on military affairs that everything else (including his own health and life) was of secondary importance to him.

Secondly, given that Andrei Morozov practically did not find time for rest and proper sleep, he had already suffered from chronic fatigue syndrome for a long time. This also seriously affected his psychological state and perception of reality.

Thirdly, as is known, “who multiplies knowledge, multiplies sorrow"(phrase from the book of Ecclesiastes), and Murz, receiving real information about what was happening at the fronts, took it to heart, because he was an ideological man and he was not indifferent to the fate of his comrades in arms. He tried to reach out to the military leadership so that it would eventually stop the practice of “meat assaults” and punish those responsible for them. The complete failure in these activities weighed heavily on him.

Fourthly, pressure was exerted on him - primarily from the media (Soloviev, Vityazeva, Gasparyan, many Telegram channels that intensified the attack after his posts about losses near Avdeevka), where he was called a “defeatist”, “whiner”, etc. etc., and his public statements are “working for the enemy.” Not everything was smooth in relations with the military leadership, which clearly did not approve of what Andrei wrote.

It was this set of factors that ultimately led to the tragedy.

It is quite difficult to understand and comprehend the actions of Andrei Morozov, and the author does not consider it correct to evaluate him.

Suicide, as is known, has always been sharply condemned by Christian civilization. An exception was made for people who, deliberately taking their own lives, had the goal of saving another person or group of people from death. In this case, this act in Orthodox Christianity was classified not as suicide, but as self-sacrifice.

However, in some other cultures, such as Japan, suicide was, on the contrary, extolled. From the point of view of Bushido (the samurai code), by committing seppuku (harakiri), the samurai performed a great feat and demonstrated mental balance and the ability to self-control, for the path of a warrior is the path of death. Harakiri was committed if a warrior believed that his soul could no longer be in his own body - the reason could be the insulted dignity of the warrior, the need to confirm his honest name, the desire to keep some secret, the threat of capture or death by order of the master. It could also have been committed out of unwillingness to accept any gross injustice.

However, Andrei Morozov was not Japanese, and Japanese traditions have never been close to Russian people (and in Japan itself there is little left of them). Murz was a man completely immersed in the pressing problems of the military conflict in Ukraine - in fact, this is what he lived for, and for a long time. I have been personally convinced of this more than once.

From the very beginning, he supported the “Russian Spring” and after the outbreak of the military conflict in the Donbass he volunteered, but at first he was unlucky - he ended up in the city of Anthracite (LPR), which was under the control of the detachments (and, frankly speaking, gangs) of Nikolai Kozitsyn, who They mistook him for a “spy” and tortured him. Many local residents also felt the power of the Cossack “ataman”, for robberies and torture in order to seize property were not uncommon at that time.

After this, having returned back, most people would have given up on everything and would not have volunteered anywhere else (or even would have completely joined the camp of opponents of the republics), but Andrei acted differently. Having recovered, he made a second attempt and again ended up in the Donbass, subsequently taking part in the Debaltsevo operation as part of the “August” battalion. This clearly demonstrates that Murz was an incredibly purposeful person and never gave up on his plans, despite all the obstacles.

The only face-to-face meeting between me and Andrei Morozov took place back in 2017 in a small cafe in Lugansk (it happened with the assistance of Igor Strelkov). At that time, Andrei was experiencing certain health problems - in particular, he had a severe limp on the very leg that Kozitsyn’s Cossacks “treated” for him in 2014, and suffered from hypertension.

This, however, did not prevent him from dealing with the problems of the People's Militia of the LPR (mainly on the humanitarian side); he was constantly on the move and had little rest. He didn’t seem to care too much about his own health - he later even suffered a mini-stroke, because he practically did not find breaks for rest, being completely immersed in work.

On that day, Murz was sincerely indignant that a group of enthusiastic military personnel had developed a UAV project, but the management turned out to be uninterested in it, and the military personnel were reprimanded for amateurism. Having exchanged views on the political situation in the LPR (the meeting took place against the backdrop of a forceful change of power in the republic), we agreed to maintain contacts in the future.

There were no doubts about the sincerity and ideology of this person - on the contrary, his immersion in the conflict in Donbass was amazing. He always repeated that he did not like to talk about faith in victory and its inevitability, but said that “victory must be done" And he really did everything necessary to bring it closer: he supplied the army with communications and UAVs, taught people how to use UAVs, repaired radio stations, etc. After the start of the military operation, he immersed himself even more in work. He was a unique person, because there are very few people like him who are 100% devoted to any idea.

Andrei Morozov was a radical and did not change his views - even after the retreat of the Russian Armed Forces from Kyiv and near Kharkov, he continued to advocate war to a victorious end (which, in the author’s opinion, is no longer possible to achieve in the current situation, while everything is heading towards the division of Ukraine between Russia and the West) and new waves of mobilization. He did not believe in the possibility of achieving peace through diplomacy. He was partly aware that the political leadership had set itself somewhat different goals in the conflict, but he hoped that Moscow would have to act as patriots like him wanted - contrary to its wishes.

The author did not agree with Murz on everything - as mentioned above, the possibility of a complete and unconditional victory with the Russian flag in Kiev, in the author’s opinion, was irretrievably lost, and it was missed, among other things, because such a goal was not set . Now, total mobilization in the context of a demographic hole, which is already getting worse, will be a disaster for Russia. Moreover, mobilization alone cannot solve all problems. In addition, the author did not agree with some of Andrei’s radical views regarding military operations.

However, Andrei Morozov had absolutely nothing to blame - for many years he saved many soldiers’ lives, providing the army with communications and drones, and did everything possible to achieve victory. It is thanks to people like him that Donbass became part of Russia.

At the same time, instead of gratitude, Andrei received buckets of slop from famous media personalities. He wanted to tell the truth, but since the truth is often unsightly and even terrible, few people are ready to accept it. A person is inclined to believe in what he wants to believe, and is inclined to hear what he wants to hear, so it is much easier for him to believe the information that the capture of such and such a city / assault of such and such a position took place with minimal losses and without any special problems, than what Murz wrote about. For this reason, Andrei Morozov was not understood by the masses.

At some point, being subjected to information attacks, Andrei realized that he could not change anything at all. His nervous system, under constant tension, could not stand it, and he decided to die, leaving a will and writing a farewell letter. And there was no one nearby who could stop him.
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  1. -67
    28 March 2024 04: 43
    Why this post Victor? the suicidal person decided so, so what? I don’t feel sorry for him, apparently he was like that. There is no core - consider it a vegetable. and no matter what he did there, he ended up like a stupid person.
    1. +29
      28 March 2024 07: 23
      Andrey received buckets of slop from famous media personalities
      The entire Solovyov group has done less for Russia than Murz.
      1. +4
        28 March 2024 15: 23
        Let's not discuss a person's decision to end his life.
        This is not Christian and not Russian.
        And in general, who are we to judge a person, even if we have complete information, but we don’t. Even labeling a person as a radical is doubtful.

        Let's discuss your words. about codla.
        Tell me why Murz did more for Russia than, for example, Mikheev?
        1. +11
          28 March 2024 17: 39
          Quote: bk316
          Tell me why Murz did more for Russia than, for example, Mikheev?


          However, Andrei Morozov had absolutely nothing to blame - for many years he saved many soldiers’ lives by providing the army with communications and drones.

          And this connection is not “Baofengs” with one battery.


          What did Mikheev do to save the lives of Russian soldiers?
          1. +2
            28 March 2024 18: 35
            What did Mikheev do to save the lives of Russian soldiers?

            He collected 2 billion rubles and used it to buy what the guys at the front needed.
            What exactly can you watch on his channel?
            1. +9
              29 March 2024 04: 29
              Quote: bk316
              He collected 2 billion rubles and used it to buy what the guys at the front needed.
              What exactly can you watch on his channel?

              Since 19, only as an invitee to Solovyov.

              Morozov has been one of the main participants of the KCPN since 15, in principle this is enough...
              1. +4
                30 March 2024 02: 39
                In defense of Mikheev. I heard from people who crossed paths with him in Moscow - a very decent and honest man.
                DOES NOT ADVERTISE how he travels to Donbass and helps with humanitarian aid. Solovyov (when I watched him) often discusses sensitive and problematic topics.

                but Solovyov has such a cockerel - Alexey Zhuravlyov, State Duma deputy from the United Nations. Balobor, idle talker, jokes for 300, phrases like - Kyiv in three days and with one bullet. Etc. When this miracle accidentally went to Donbass, it then stood at Solovyov’s for a week in a military uniform with brilliant green, the analogy with Zelensky is direct 1v1. This miracle told everything about how they collected a whole truck with humanitarian aid from the aid department. It was so comical and wild to look at this, while Mikheev that almost every weekend he was transporting another convoy of cars with humanitarian aid to the Donbass - he didn’t even mention it .
                1. +1
                  April 22 2024 16: 51
                  99% of the deputies from the Union are empty talkers, and 1% no longer solves anything. I personally saw how ambulances for a hospital were purchased with budget money, but they were handed over from the grain. And the speeches at the rally were pushed by deputies from the crowd.
              2. Msi
                0
                30 March 2024 17: 51
                Morozov has been one of the main participants of the KCPN since 15, in principle this is enough.

                Just like that... Patriots are ready to argue until they are hoarse about who is more patriotic...
        2. 0
          28 March 2024 18: 54
          Quote: bk316
          Let's not discuss a person's decision to end his life.
          This is not Christian and not Russian.
          And in general, who are we to judge a person, even with complete information?

          Respect hi good
        3. 0
          31 March 2024 23: 13
          Quote: bk316
          Why did Murz do more for Russia than, for example, Mikheev?

          Which Mikheev is this? Sergei, who is a “political scientist”? If he is, then tell us what he did for Russia, otherwise, apart from the fact that he is a regular on all sorts of talk shows, nothing is known about him.
      2. +6
        28 March 2024 17: 31
        Fourthly, pressure was exerted on him - primarily from the media (Soloviev, Vityazeva, Gasparyan, many Telegram channels that intensified the attack after his posts about losses near Avdeevka), where he was called a “defeatist”, “whiner”, etc. etc., and his public statements are “working for the enemy.” Not everything was smooth in relations with the military leadership, which clearly did not approve of what Andrei wrote.

        He's not the only one. The same Prigogine. How many provocations were arranged for him and his fighters by our generals, both in Syria and in the Donbass. And the last blow to his disposition, after which he lost his temper and everyone already realized that they would not forgive him for this... Which is what happened. Our generals and others like them do not like those who do something better than them.
        Generals are always preparing for the last war. (c) Churchill.
        1. +3
          28 March 2024 18: 36
          Our generals and those like them do not like those who do something better than them.

          It's not a matter of "better", it's a matter of "different".
          The army has always been and will always be a terribly conservative thing.
          That’s why they are “preparing for the last war.”
    2. -9
      28 March 2024 11: 29
      Avdeevka Aerodromny.
      (Aerodrome) take it out and put it down, a fortress that was being processed by aviation every day, and you can’t count how many attempted assaults there were!!! The main thing is to whine and put it on the authorities!
    3. +5
      28 March 2024 15: 43
      It doesn't matter what he did there! And what could I have done if I hadn’t broken down? You can only blurt out something like this if you did at least a tenth of it yourself. For myself, I made another conclusion that all these bushido jokes and other fashionable things do not bring anything useful to a person. They are alien to the Russian people. Vladimir made the right choice in his time when he baptized Rus'. This is a completely different attitude to life and to struggle. And yes, here, for some reason, no one asks the question that as a punishment for Murza’s publicity, the unit was promised deprivation of ammunition supplies. Which, in fact, was the last straw. And who is it that we have in wartime who decided that he could do such things simply according to his own wishes? I'm interested in knowing the hero. I think the whole country does too.
    4. 0
      Today, 14: 43
      Keep your opinion to yourself... you are no match for him :) You are most likely from TsipSom :) judging by the essence and tone of the review. Comrade Murz is one of the legends of New Russia..
  2. -11
    28 March 2024 04: 45
    As for the “change in consciousness” from professional activity, it’s not convincing. If so, then all pensioners should have “altered consciousness.”

    I believe that it was his consciousness that was in order and this ruined him.
    It is no coincidence that we have enough drinkers to “relax.” This is a defensive reaction to the problems of social life. “The way of the samurai” is a bad way for a Russian.
    1. +21
      28 March 2024 05: 04
      Let's judge by his deeds, and not by his death....
      1. -7
        28 March 2024 05: 10
        Is everything okay with your head? And where exactly did I write about “leaving”?
    2. +13
      28 March 2024 05: 06
      As for the “change in consciousness” from professional activity, it’s not convincing.

      Not only is it unconvincing, but it is also extremely unfair to Murza.
      Murza’s latest post is on the Internet, everything is written there.
      1. +2
        28 March 2024 13: 42
        The entire Solovyov group has done less for Russia than Murz.

        Let's not discuss a person's decision to end his life.
        This is not Christian and not Russian.
        And in general, who are we to judge a person, even if we have complete information, but we don’t. Even labeling a person as a radical is doubtful.

        Let's discuss your words. about codla.
        Tell me why Murz did more for Russia than, for example, Mikheev?
        1. +3
          28 March 2024 14: 36
          First you will figure out where and which user writes what.
          Then master the “reply” button and the “quote” function.
          Then, if you deem it necessary, let's talk.
          1. +1
            28 March 2024 15: 23
            Sorry, there are so few of you authors who are yellow that I made a mistake.
            1. 0
              28 March 2024 15: 27
              Never mind. The topic itself is just creepy.
              1. +2
                28 March 2024 18: 37
                The topic itself is just creepy.

                That's not the right word. I would refrain from writing an article.
  3. -29
    28 March 2024 05: 24
    Angel? Suicide?
    It is strange to sing the virtues of a dead person.
  4. +7
    28 March 2024 05: 43
    Andrei realized that he could not change anything at all.
    “It’s bad for a person when he’s alone. Woe to him alone, one is not a warrior - every stalwart is his master, and even the weak, if two... One is nonsense, one is zero, one - even if very important - will not lift a simple five-inch log, especially five-story house."(c)
  5. +25
    28 March 2024 06: 40
    Today, Comrade Colonel, on your order, I was forced to delete a post from my telegram channel. And your command forced you to give this order, relying on good old army collective responsibility. If it doesn’t remove it, we won’t provide supplies. Shells. Copters. New tanks and infantry fighting vehicles. Well, I'll do it myself. I will shoot myself if no one dares to take on this trifling matter. And they will give you tanks and copters. Since February 21 2024 you can safely tell everyone who calls you that I do not work for you, and there are no problems with me.
    Murza had 2 options: 1. Stay alive, but leave his unit without supplies. A lot of people would have died. 2. die and then his unit will have supplies. Andrey made his choice by saving other people’s lives.
    1. -7
      28 March 2024 08: 51
      . Murza had 2 options: 1. Stay alive, but leave his unit without supplies. A lot of people would have died. 2. die and then his unit will have supplies. Andrey made his choice by saving other people’s lives.

      A young healthy person actually has many paths. About 90% of people in his place would simply change their phone number, leave the BD zone and go skiing to Krasnaya Polyana.
      It's all in your head.
      1. +6
        28 March 2024 09: 38
        Quote: Arzt
        About 90% of people in his place would simply change their phone number, leave the BD zone and go skiing to Krasnaya Polyana.

        I emphasize. This You you think so.. Because that’s what they would do . So, write about yourself. I would do that.
        1. -7
          28 March 2024 10: 17
          . I emphasize. You think so.. Because that’s what they would do. So, write about yourself. I would do that.

          In my line of work, I often encounter people with suicidal tendencies. I recommend all of them to watch N. Erdman’s magnificent play “Suicide.”
          About a poor trombonist in Soviet Russia in the post-revolutionary period, who out of grief decided to commit suicide. Immediately there was a bunch of people who invited him to shoot himself not just like that, but in the name of great goals, from love for a lady to a revolutionary idea.
          In the end, he realized that life was wonderful and decided not to shoot.
          And he also realized that a person who puts a gun to his temple becomes omnipotent. He became so emboldened that he called the Kremlin and said that he did not like Marx.

          Murza, before shooting, had to drag a couple of enemies with him.

          PS I highly recommend it to you too.

          1. +5
            29 March 2024 08: 29
            Murza, before shooting, had to drag a couple of enemies with him.

            Thanks to Murz's work, the number of enemies multiplied by zero is much greater.
      2. +1
        28 March 2024 17: 30
        Quote: Arzt
        A young healthy person actually has many paths. About 90% of people in his place would simply change their phone number, leave the BD zone and go skiing to Krasnaya Polyana.
        Call a spade a spade. In military slang, these are the 500th or, more simply, deserters, “Patriots of Upper Lars.” Part 3 of Article 338 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation provides for punishment for "skiing in Krasnaya Polyana" for a period of 5 to 15 years.
        PS what are you doing at VO? are you promoting desertion?
        1. -8
          28 March 2024 20: 54
          . Call a spade a spade. In military slang, these are the 500th or, more simply, deserters, “Patriots of Upper Lars.” Part 3 of Article 338 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation provides for punishment for “skiing in Krasnaya Polyana” for a period of 5 to 15 years.
          PS what are you doing at VO? are you promoting desertion?

          Suicide is also a form of desertion. There is no point in making this an example for fragile minds. All this samurai stuff is not for us.
          PS With all due respect to the deceased. hi
          1. +2
            29 March 2024 08: 50
            All this samurai stuff is not for us.

            Will it be closer this way? -
            Gentlemen officers, I ask you to consider:
            He who saved his nerves did not save his honor.
    2. +11
      28 March 2024 08: 57
      Quote: VPK-65
      die and then his unit will have supplies. Andrey made his choice by saving other people’s lives.

      Prigozhin, Strelkov, Morozov - the steam roller of the Moscow Region machine crushed them.
    3. -13
      28 March 2024 12: 08
      Quote: VPK-65
      Murza had 2 options: 1. Stay alive, but leave his unit without supplies. A lot of people would have died. 2. die and then his unit will have supplies. Andrey made his choice by saving other people’s lives.

      For the sake of one scribbler to delete his post, would they put soldiers on the front line?! Yes, the author of the article is more than right about the change in consciousness. Our generals are experts at yelling and threatening. But do you really think that you, a scribbler, wrote such an extremely important post?! Which will now be paid for in blood?!
      In general, “he was a merchant there and became wiser...”. It’s a pity, of course, for a person who brought a lot of benefit, judging by the article. But it’s good that his moving roof didn’t seriously hit people. This happens all the time - there was a terribly enthusiastic person, and somehow, imperceptibly, a fanatic appeared in his place, walking on blood like water.
      Perhaps he decided to die, feeling that he could not cope with the storm in his head...
    4. +2
      31 March 2024 06: 36
      It remains to clarify whether the supply has been squeezed, otherwise what will happen to these freaks
    5. 0
      April 2 2024 17: 17
      Murza had 2 options
      Whoa! Andrey wrote EVERYTHING in his suicide note.
  6. +8
    28 March 2024 07: 36
    The last samurai of New Russia.
    It’s sad, it’s a pity “that I didn’t put out the candle in time” recourse .
  7. 0
    28 March 2024 07: 38
    so far everything is heading towards the division of Ukraine between Russia and the West)
    Who in the West needs Ukraine? No one in the West has the idea of ​​a "land gatherer".
    Putin has already said 100 times that he wants to divide Ukraine according to the LBS, but some are still imagining things.
    1. GGV
      -6
      28 March 2024 13: 43
      And I suppose I am against Western xoxland entering the Russian Federation. Just imagine several million people who hate the country and constantly whine: how good it used to be. And a question: where did the GDP say that it wants division on the LBS?
      1. +2
        28 March 2024 14: 05
        And I suppose I am against Western xoxland entering the Russian Federation.

        Very difficult question.
        And a question: where did the GDP say that it wants division on the LBS?

        Nowhere.
      2. 0
        31 March 2024 23: 33
        Quote: GGV
        And I suppose I am against Western xoxland entering the Russian Federation.

        In my opinion, Kyiv became the central viper, and not the West. Ukraine. Therefore, you can take Lviv to the Russian Federation. But these are just fantasies.
    2. -3
      28 March 2024 14: 06
      Putin has already said 100 times that he wants to divide Ukraine according to the LBS, but some are still imagining things.

      Proof in the studio.
      This is why they didn’t like the Bolsheviks, for lying.
      1. -2
        28 March 2024 14: 12
        quote]Putin has already said 100 times that he wants to divide Ukraine according to LBS, and some people are imagining everything.[/quote]
        Proof in the studio.

        What Putin really said was this:
        1. that new regions should become part of the Russian Federation completely - that is, NOT AT ALL through the LBS
        2. What is necessary to create, in addition to this, a buffer zone NOT WITHIN THE RF - that is, not to tear it away from Ukraine
        3. That he does not want the destruction of the Ukrainian state, that is, the division of Ukraine.

        That’s why they didn’t like the CPSU, because they lied.
      2. +4
        28 March 2024 16: 26
        What, “jingo-patriots” don’t listen to your idol at all? For example :
        “Are we ready to negotiate? Yes, we are ready. But only we are ready for negotiations that are not based on some wishful thinking after the use of psychotropic drugs, but based on the realities that have developed, as they say in such cases, on earth,” Putin said.

        And it is no longer necessary to say anything to the pathologically deceitful enemies of the Bolsheviks.
        1. -1
          29 March 2024 08: 34
          What, “jingo-patriots” don’t listen to your idol at all?

          Did you understand this in a way that is more beneficial to you?
          1. 0
            29 March 2024 11: 00
            And how you understood it, you, naturally, are not able to explain.
            1. -4
              29 March 2024 12: 40
              And how you understood it, you, naturally, are not able to explain.

              Putin explained everything for dreamers like you. Negotiations will be conducted on the terms of achieving the goals of the SBO. This naturally excludes the division of Ukraine according to the current LBS.

              And in general, if you had at least the rudiments of logical thinking and if you did not take texts out of context, you would understand that this very quote excludes the division of Ukraine.
              1. +4
                29 March 2024 15: 42
                What kind of goals are they? Are you able to adequately explain, or are you only able to broadcast propaganda as a receiver?
                1. -2
                  29 March 2024 18: 41
                  Are you able to adequately explain

                  Like, adults, so why play with a broken phone? Delve into the primary sources. They are in the public domain.
                  1. +2
                    29 March 2024 19: 23
                    The amazing ability of the enemies of the USSR to respond without responding. Why did you even answer me if you don’t know what to answer in essence?
                    1. 0
                      April 1 2024 16: 50
                      The amazing ability of the enemies of the USSR to respond without responding.

                      Just don’t bother the USSR and appeal to loud slogans. I won’t even remind you whose favorite pastime this is.
        2. -2
          29 March 2024 12: 37
          And it is no longer necessary to say anything to the pathologically deceitful enemies of the Bolsheviks.

          Where is there even a word or even a hint about the division of Ukraine along the LBS line?
          In addition to the pathological deceit of the top of the CPSU, the USSR also collapsed due to the inability of even the rudiments of logical thinking of such “communists”. But how well it all started...
          1. +1
            29 March 2024 15: 37
            No matter how much the enemies of the USSR and the Soviet people, who always, both under the USSR and after the capture of the USSR, pretend and pretend to be those who benefit you at this time, including “loyal communists” and their supporters, and “great lovers of humanity” in slandering the communists , not one of you is able to prove how, without your “Liberator” Gorbachev, whom you betrayed, the USSR could have “collapsed by itself,” and you could have seized its territory.
  8. +9
    28 March 2024 08: 16
    It’s very true about Kozitsin and his organized crime group. The big question is who eliminated Dremov, there are some suspicions.
  9. +10
    28 March 2024 08: 22
    A month has already passed since Andrei Morozov (also known as Murz), a fighter of the 2nd Guards Army Corps of the Russian Armed Forces, the author of the telegram channel “They are writing to us from Ioannina,” passed away by committing suicide.
    Then let's remember the man here. It’s a pity that I left so early without finishing all my affairs in this world. If anyone has something good to remember and add to this topic, add it.
    Greek aphorism of Chilo: "τὸν τεθνηκóτα μὴ κακολογεῖν" - Latin translation "Mortuo non maledicendum" - literally in Russian "after death, do not curse / do not say bad things.".
    hi
    1. +3
      28 March 2024 18: 19
      Quote: Gomunkul
      If anyone has something good to remember and add to this topic, add it.

      Lessons for future signalmen (in 6 parts)
      https://www.youtube.com/@ReiHatori/videos
      Murza's interview with Alexander Pasechnik in the spring of 2023
      https://youtu.be/iEffnhgvL2A
  10. +16
    28 March 2024 08: 48
    “Fourthly, pressure was exerted on him - primarily media (Soloviev, Vityazeva, Gasparyan, many Telegram channels, which intensified the attack after his posts about losses near Avdeevka"

    I don’t watch TV on purpose, but sometimes I come across footage of Solovyov. I think his activities are causing real harm to Russia. I think, having earned money, he will be far away from here, as many others have already been, and the people will forget about him, as they forgot others.
    1. +12
      28 March 2024 09: 10
      Quote: S.Z.
      I don’t watch TV on purpose, but sometimes I come across footage of Solovyov. I think his activities are causing real harm to Russia.

      Similarly.
      Quote: S.Z.
      I think, having earned money, he will be far from here, as many others have already found themselves, and the people will forget about him, just as they forgot others.

      It will be a shame if he forgets. “Awards must find their heroes”...
      1. +4
        28 March 2024 09: 59
        It would be better not to wait so long and not give the opportunity to hide.
    2. 0
      28 March 2024 09: 40
      Quote: S.Z.
      I think, having earned money, he will be far from here, as many others have already found themselves

      Maybe I would like to. But the ends are cut. no place to go. The same as Shoigu and others.
      1. +1
        28 March 2024 10: 01
        "Perhaps I would like to. But the ends are cut. There is nowhere to go. Just like Shoigu and others."

        Shoigu - of course, and with this the ends, of course, are cut off, but not in this sense :) Where are Karaulov, where is Nevzorov, the former truth-tellers?
        1. +1
          28 March 2024 15: 56
          Quote: S.Z.
          Where are Karaulov, where is Nevzorov, the former truth-tellers?

          where, where.. Which one, by whose order, the truth was “chopped” there and left.
          1. +1
            28 March 2024 16: 57
            “where, where.. What kind of truth, by whose order, were they “chopped” there and left.”

            So Soloviev will go there too.
      2. +3
        29 March 2024 00: 22
        But the ends are cut

        Solovyov 25 years ago was an out-and-out liberal, now he has turned into a security guard. If necessary, it will be repainted again, no doubt about it.
    3. +1
      30 March 2024 04: 02
      when I post links on topware where Solovyov, in an interview with Komsomolskaya Pravda, boasts that he has a dacha in Spain and several in Italy, they give me minuses. But there are not just dachas there - there are palaces, acres of vineyards and an almost ready-made business for the production of individual elite wine. All from his boastful words from 2010-2014+.
      It’s hard for a jingoistic patriot to understand a simple thing - Solovyov simply makes money from us. Until we started the SVO, he was a simple talker with no action. Now the case has appeared - he carries a humanitarian aid, he has stuck to the tap with money. For this, I can write his last name with a capital letter - let him steal, let him keep his legal by our state of the Russian Federation "up to 40% of the contribution to the charitable foundation, the founders of the foundation can spend on their salary and the needs of the foundation." Let be.
      But the remaining 60% go to the front, go to Victory. For this I am grateful to him, but for the bad jingoism in the style of “Kyiv in three days!”, “If we only lift an eyebrow, Ukraine will understand everything” is sabotage. This was exactly the kind of mischief that Putin fell for and we have what we have after February 2022.
  11. +8
    28 March 2024 09: 56
    Andrey received buckets of slop from famous media personalities
    Media persons of the country..Note..
    1. +3
      28 March 2024 10: 01
      Namely, that media personalities in a conflict have immeasurably more weight than the fighting personalities.
      1. +11
        28 March 2024 10: 26
        You don’t understand, these individuals express the opinion of the authorities... And not on their own...
        1. +3
          28 March 2024 10: 41
          The authorities are trying to hide their failures, which is natural, and the media controlled by them help in this, which is also natural. But we don’t have any other media - this is already unnatural.
          1. +3
            28 March 2024 11: 30
            We don’t have any other media
            And the channels Spas, Tsargrad, they are not federal, but independent... we live in a democratic country, right? Our freedom of speech is not the same as in the USSR and the USA?
            1. +4
              28 March 2024 12: 42
              They are not federal, but are they independent?
              1. +2
                29 March 2024 08: 51
                But of course, this is only under socialism, there is a dependent press, but under capitalism there are no owners of factories, newspapers, or ships.
                1. 0
                  29 March 2024 09: 36
                  “But of course, this is only under socialism, there is a dependent press, but under capitalism there are no owners of factories, newspapers, or ships.”

                  The entire press is dependent on someone; the press that does not depend on the authorities, even the opposition, is considered independent. Due to the lack of opposition, there is also no independent press.
                  1. +3
                    29 March 2024 09: 43
                    Soooo, is it really true that we don’t have opposition in the West? We are democratic countries, not like totalitarian socialism.
  12. +8
    28 March 2024 10: 07
    The suicide of "Murza" ... came as an absolute surprise to many.

    Such a surprise?
    Everyone knew perfectly well who was poisoning him; there was no other word for it.
  13. -6
    28 March 2024 11: 59
    If Murza did not exist, it would be worth inventing him.

    The owner of an avatar with a cat in Feldgrau and MP40 and the nickname Kenigtiger fought against fascism and Nazism in his understanding for 10 years.

    The first meeting with the reality of Novorossiya turned out to be very peculiar for the deceased. Our hero ended up “in the basement” and was tortured. It's okay - in the great work of liberation, no one is immune from mistakes. I left part of my health there forever, but in return I acquired something more - Stockholm syndrome. Of course, this only strengthened his convictions in the criminal nature of the Ukrainian-fascist regime and its hangers-on.

    In general, according to the laws of the genre, the hero had to end his journey in a Russian prison. But it turned out as it happened and his beloved Girkin will take the rap for everyone

    This post should not be taken as gloating. Before us is the fate of a person from a whole cohort of “voluntarily gone crazy.” A phenomenon that historians and psychiatrists will have to study.
    1. +7
      28 March 2024 14: 57
      It seems to me that it is wrong to explain what happened by psychological problems.
      On the contrary, my IMHO is that Murz was absolutely normal.

      A person had certain ideas about the world around him, a fairly complete picture of the world, and tried to change it in accordance with his ideas about good and evil. The existing contradictions between his picture of the world and reality were to a certain extent smoothed out by family and work relationships.
      As he "plunged into his picture of the world as a whole," the contradictions between expectations and reality, good and evil, probably began to look completely insoluble after a while.
      In general, his latest post is just about this.

      What is extremely unpleasant about this story is that even people who call him a friend also write that “Murz went into a black depression based on nervous and physical overstrain.” (c) Marchenko-Mokrenko.
      It seemed to me, a sinful thing, that the same Marchenko (or whoever else was among his friends) would go to fulfill Murz’s last will. But, judging by the lack of results of the fulfillment of his last will in the news (Murz asked not to delay), all his friends have there are more important things to do.
      1. -1
        28 March 2024 15: 17
        Everyone has their own idea of ​​normal.

        Back in the day, I was interested in the episode with the liberation of our hero from the tenacious hands of the vigilant defenders of the Russian world.

        https://kenigtiger.livejournal.com/1479024.html
        At that moment, I realized that by my silence during interrogations I had so convinced the militia that I was a Right Sector spy that they gave me, along with Anton/Denis, to the Ukrainians in exchange for one of their own. Well, they politely returned me as unnecessary.


        What happens, the criminal accomplices of the bloody junta, instead of taking over the baton from the glorious fellows of Kozitsyn, simply let Murzik go, and even kindly drove him to the border?

        These are the insidious scoundrels. It is not surprising that the hero has an irreconcilable hatred for such vile enemies.
        1. 0
          28 March 2024 15: 26
          Everyone has their own idea of ​​normal.

          You see, a person's political beliefs, no matter how different they may be from other people's beliefs, do not affect normality (let's use this term for simplicity) in the medical or legal sense of the word.

          However, I understand that my “distribution of diagnoses on the Internet” is also not entirely normal, forgive the tautology.

          I’m just a little offended by the explanation in this story through some “psychological problems” and “black depression.” Well, the behavior of Murza’s friends.
          1. +2
            28 March 2024 16: 20
            After Girkin’s arrest and Prigozhin’s games with a grenade in the cabin of the plane, it became obvious even to patriots that a total cleansing of the information space and beyond was underway. On the eve of the elections, representing Avdeevka as anything other than an outstanding victory of Russian weapons was tantamount to suicide in a figurative sense.
            Murz went against the flow and it turned out quite literally.
            The complaints against Murza's friends are not entirely clear. In fact, his position was openly publicly supported only by prominent anti-fascists from “Rusich”. There are no more people willing to wear the “dementia and courage” chevron.
        2. 0
          31 March 2024 06: 44
          At that time he was a nobody for Ukrainians, that’s why he remained alive
  14. +7
    28 March 2024 12: 22
    Well. After his death, he encountered disparaging statements and curses about him from “hurray-patriots.”
    They say he was crazy, took drugs, and was generally a liar, a punker and a neurasthenic.

    That didn’t stop jingoistic patriots from referring to him during their lifetime, when it was convenient.
    Blessed memory
  15. +6
    28 March 2024 13: 51
    Don't do good, you won't get evil. People actually thought that the “Russian world” was Pushkin, the golden ring and Gzhel. Reality is Kozitsyn, a mop and a sea of ​​Tajik specialists all around. The soul of the romantic could not withstand the collision with reality, and in the form of gratitude, representatives of the real, and not fictional, “Russian world”, who for this very world did not do even a fraction of a percent of what the suicide did, dumped a ton of garbage on his grave. Psycho, neurasthenic, defeatist, he didn’t seem to forget anything. A person who knows how to learn from the mistakes of others, I think, will draw the right conclusions from the patient’s life story - expressions of patriotism only upon prepayment, with the obligatory condition of personal safety.
  16. +6
    28 March 2024 14: 24
    I feel very sorry for Murza, although I can’t say that I read him a lot or was very familiar with his activities. I am mainly familiar with the references to him by the same Strelkov, Kalashnikov and a number of other persons who covered what was happening in the Donbass and in the humanitarian plan. It was clear that Murz was not an indifferent person; unfortunately, such people often burn out and burn out.
    In my opinion, things need moderation, and, recognizing the convinced position, role and achievements of people like Murz (and in general, in principle, “fanatics” of their business), it is worth noting that a well-fed and healthy cow gives more milk than one that is driven and in the end they drive it away. You have to feel sorry for yourself, you have to be able to come to terms with the fact that not all walls can (and should) be broken through with your head, and if such a goal is really worthwhile, you have to concentrate your mind. the efforts are not on following the straight path, but on the desired result, which is behind this wall. Goals can be achieved in different ways and the optimal route is not necessarily direct or fast. That is why it is called not “shortest” but “optimal”. People who are very enthusiastic sometimes unconsciously contribute to the conservation of any imperfect systems, because they do for them part of the work that the system should do itself, pushing it towards evolution where the system should also do it itself. You won’t push a good car every two kilometers with a handbrake; it will look epic, but in its essence it will be something vicious if such efforts become systemic and endless.

    By taking on someone else's responsibility, we sometimes help irresponsibility to flourish and the planning qualities that give rise to it to continue to exist. A lone warrior in the field is very heroic, if we don’t start to think about why this happened...
  17. -4
    28 March 2024 17: 14
    It’s not entirely clear what good his death brought to Novorossiya? - it turns out he left for himself, - what then is the meaning of the previous 10 years? And you still need to climb out of the holes you fell into (unless, of course, you live in the Russian Federation)
  18. 0
    29 March 2024 00: 40
    I read the comments...and I’m amazed. how twisted the human brain is. one pain point can be examined from different angles and give completely opposite answers.
    there is no need to engage in conspiracy theories and look for something that does not exist.
    in this case everything is simple. Every society is caste. caste, doctors, teachers, akhtrov, lawyers, politicians, police....military. Americans have a good phrase on this occasion...."this is my" business". It implies that an outsider, not from the professional environment of this category of citizens, has nothing to do in someone else's field.... especially, to meddle there with his own advice and complaints. And if there is a “rebel” within the professional stratum, he is obliged not to take out quarrelsome garbage for everyone to see. Violating this unspoken commandment, they spread rot.....often to death. Nothing personal, this is business.
  19. 0
    29 March 2024 05: 36
    I don't believe in this "suicide".
  20. 0
    31 March 2024 19: 42
    The reasons for this are unknown! But death on the battlefield is better than this!!!! Condolences to the relatives!
    1. +1
      April 2 2024 18: 12
      But death on the battlefield is better than this!!!!
      Alas, if Andrei had died in battle... Then the “paid patriots” would have simply “written off” this wonderful man, just as they had already “written off” tens of thousands of other Russian soldiers. Just as they have, in fact, already “written off” all those who are still in danger of dying. They would just remain silent. Or they would have published a hypocritical obituary... Andrei actually directly hinted that he wanted his death to serve as “information sabotage” against the “Vlasovites on the bell tower.” “Sometimes, to take revenge, it’s enough just to break into the enemy’s house and die,” he roughly wrote in his last post. As someone already noted somewhere, the “paid patriots” actually had to talk about the “mental health” of the true patriot they hated, in a vain attempt to “wash themselves” of his blood. Those. - we ourselves are forced to “advertise” Andrey. This means that you still increase the chance that someone else will want to “check out the original.” With what Andrey said and wrote. Andrei decided to leave on his own terms - and not “play by the rules” of the enemy. To give others a chance to survive. If I had found another option to help the Cause, I would have acted in accordance with it.
  21. +2
    31 March 2024 20: 28
    The Donbass militia relied on people like him, alas, but the authorities are at odds with patriots and truth-tellers, they are in their crosshairs.
  22. Ray
    +3
    31 March 2024 20: 33
    Murza's departure came as a complete surprise to me. I haven’t followed him for the last three months, a couple of days ago I went to his channel and read his “suicide note”... Written 2 months ago!
    I am a person of a different ethnicity and a different religion than Murz. But somehow I understood him, and at some points our views on the war intersected. And I had great respect for him as a person with a core, an ideological person, ready to go to the end. I understood that this is that rare person who, as they say, has a heightened sense of justice. And at the same time, a purposeful, efficient professional who, for the sake of this justice in his vision, is ready to go to the end, no matter what.
    How stupid and narrow-minded are those who called him a defeatist, an alarmist, etc. Well, have the victors already won the war? No? And why? Is it because of the problems that this “defeatist” voiced and was not afraid to do so?
    Fundamentally, the masses are stupid and short-sighted. I am convinced once again. Therefore, I am not a supporter of democracy - the rule of the majority. Because the majority do not know how to analyze and think deeply, they are very short-sighted. Whatever the level of education in this society. The majority are ready to devour such Murzovs, easily following the lead of all sorts of crooks, opportunists and deceivers. I won’t name names. Everyone understood what we were talking about.
  23. Des
    0
    April 3 2024 11: 04
    Thank you.
    Bright memory to man.
    1. Des
      0
      April 3 2024 11: 21
      I didn't have time to correct my comment in time.
      The friend was at work. The name was "Matroskin"). Submariner. Cheerful. He “left” himself. It was always overwhelming that he survived, but his comrades on the submarine (fire) died.