The military-political meaning of Macron's demarche

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The military-political meaning of Macron's demarche


Mikron Bonapartovich


By making loud and aggressive statements, France acts as a puppet of the United States, solving American problems, namely, trying to further inflame the war in Europe.



There are only two combat-ready units in France, and one of them is the Foreign Legion. There are also many people from Eastern Europe and countries located on the territory of the former USSR. If anything, then they could have been sent. This is also confirmed by rumors emanating from these legionnaires.

But the dispatch and loss of this division would be catastrophic for France, and even, in my opinion, stupid Macron cannot fail to understand this, otherwise his last name would be Micron. Moreover, France has now been greatly humiliated in Africa. "Wagner" kicked them out of a number of countries, and they undoubtedly understand their real place in relation to the Russians.

So France, apparently, will not risk its almost only combat-ready division. And various kinds of French advisers and specialists have been in Ukraine for a long time, and their number could be increased and decreased without creating a stir in the media space.

So, it would seem, what are these statements for?

However, this shouldn't be seen as crazy bullshit or a cheap bluff, and here's the thing.

The art of manipulation


French diplomacy quite skillfully manipulates various less experienced and even more stupid political clans, being, in my opinion, a weak and short-sighted nation, it is still distinguished by the art of manipulation, which often allows it to rake in the heat with the wrong hands.

Let us remember, for example, what happened with Syria.

At the beginning of the war in Syria, France simulated its participation in the invasion, an aircraft carrier stood off the coast of Syria and flew one sortie a day. And in the French press it was called a war against terrorism by an international coalition led by France.

Immediately after the start of the Russian operation in Syria, France sent observers there to collect facts of human rights violations by Russia. In other words, they solved their problems with the hands of the Russian Federation, while simultaneously accusing us of various sins. This is not the first historical an example of this kind.

They also successfully dragged Russia into the Russian-Turkish wars, then unexpectedly finding themselves at the negotiating table. For example, during the Berlin Conference.
It also happened during the Second World War, when pro-fascist France suddenly turned out to be one of the winners of that war.

Coalition from Buratin


In other words, by making this media noise, France is trying to assemble a coalition of Pinocchio, whom it plans to send to fight for the cunning French fox Alice and her American master Karabas-Barabas. And, it should be noted that France often gets such numbers. And the coalition is already emerging, and the first candidates have appeared. What is the joint statement of France, Germany and Poland worth?

The elephant in the room is Poland. They don't feel sorry for the Poles. By the way, we noticed that 130 billion dollars in aid were suddenly released to Poland, which they had previously refused to give back. This appears to be a form of bribe to the corrupt Polish establishment for Makron's soldiers.

Poland is a key pawn and bargaining chip in the American game of creating tension in Europe and starting a war in the European theater of operations. The purpose of such a war, as before, is to weaken Europe and strengthen American hegemony in the world, enriching itself with human grief and blood.

Poland regularly makes aggressive statements not only towards Russia and Ukraine, but also towards Germany. The Polish political leadership, being under American control, is actively trying to set the peoples of Europe against each other, even at the cost of Poland itself.

For example, Poland recently unexpectedly demanded an additional trillion from Germany, thereby causing indignation among the Germans and memories that a large number of their territories went to Poland. It is therefore not surprising to hear phrases from the Germans in the style of “ok, then return Pomerania.” And this predictable reaction is the goal of the American puppeteers of the Polish establishment - mutual claims and escalation of tension, pushing towards war in Europe.


In my opinion, the special operation would not have been needed if the Soviet Union had remained. Ukraine is now being further driven into debt bondage, from 60 to 90 percent of the issued money remains in the United States, and the most important American interest is that in addition it is Soviet citizens who mutually destroy each other, destroy Soviet cities and the remaining industry, despite the fact that America does not loses not a single soldier. It's hard to imagine a more profitable business for the United States.

How to punish?


A long-term solution, from my personal point of view, could begin, among many other things, with the restoration of the USSR.

And, in particular, in my opinion, it would be good to deliver a crushing pre-emptive strike on France, depriving it of the opportunity to even think about some kind of intervention and interference in the Ukrainian conflict.

How to organize this is a technical question and completely solvable if, for example, their internal powder kegs themselves are engaged and activated. There are also Basques there who are fighting for freedom from France, as well as the freedom-loving Corsican people, and much more. They are the ones who need a little help now, I think.

Also, I believe that a direct disarming strike on Macron is also quite acceptable.

Why do I think so?

Yes, if NATO could destroy Russia, it would have done it a long time ago, and even without any reason, simply out of hatred for us. And if they haven’t done this yet, it means they simply can’t.

That is why the timely and strict punishment of croaking France for its aggressive rhetoric also, in my private opinion, should not limit Russia to any red lines drawn by Macron.
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  1. +11
    24 March 2024 04: 50
    All French presidents are swindlers and swindlers.
    Sarkozy deceived Gaddafi for money, Hollande deceived Medvedev with the Mistrals, Macron deceived Putin with Minsk 1,2.
    In general, when you are dealing with the French president, remember that in front of you is a cheater and a scammer.
    1. +1
      24 March 2024 05: 15
      if NATO could destroy Russia, it would have done it a long time ago, and even without any reason, simply out of hatred for us. And if they haven’t done this yet, it means they simply can’t.
      So let them be completely silent!
    2. +2
      24 March 2024 07: 38
      It also happened during the Second World War, when pro-fascist France suddenly turned out to be one of the winners of that war.
      -Since 1918, Versailles, the vanquished paid reparations, defeated Germany, and look how it was revived under the next chancellor until 45.
      France's dangerous weakness.
      If you don’t destroy the Russian Federation, then blow up the Kale Strait. For the land isthmus to England.
    3. +1
      24 March 2024 08: 56
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      Oland deceived Medvedev with the Mistrals
      - the joke is that Hollande results of deceived France and himself
      1) The Russian Federation returned all the money
      22) The Russian Federation paid a fine for failure to deliver - 98 million
      3) the Russian Federation received the entire documentation - since according to the contract they then had to build it themselves
      4) France spent a long time wondering what to do with them
      5) the shipyard in Saint-Nazaire went bankrupt - and this is doubly useful when the enemy has bankruptcy of such companies
      6) the prestige of France as a reliable supplier has been undermined
      7) Hollande himself was kicked out of politics
      And for some reason it seems to me that all this was planned at once
      1. +3
        24 March 2024 11: 00
        3.1 We received not just documentation, but experience in large-scale construction. The aft sections of both Mistrals were built at the Baltic Shipyard.
      2. ada
        0
        24 March 2024 20: 41
        Quote: your1970
        ... And for some reason it seems to me that all this was planned at once

        Absolutely true, but there is no surprise here, all roles in the formed Western European buffer have long been distributed, and any amateur activity, especially in the military-industrial complex, is inappropriate, and distraction from the task of forming the ETTD is suppressed indicatively.
    4. +3
      24 March 2024 10: 46
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      All French presidents are swindlers and swindlers.
      Sarkozy deceived Gaddafi for money, Hollande deceived Medvedev with the Mistrals, Macron deceived Putin with Minsk 1,2.
      In general, when you are dealing with the French president, remember that in front of you is a cheater and a scammer.

      France had only one pro-French president - General Charles de Gaulle, the rest were political adventurers and mattress masturbators like Sarkozy, Hollande and Macron, who did more harm to the interests of France than good.
    5. -1
      24 March 2024 15: 46
      Yes, they are swindlers. That’s what they live on. How long can you be deceived by these idiots in the face of our leadership? It’s good that they were pinned down in Africa.
    6. -1
      25 March 2024 20: 02
      Minsk 1,2 is also on Hollande’s conscience (together with Merkel).
  2. 0
    24 March 2024 05: 19
    Removing the President of France? Well, it seems to me that’s what it’s like.. In general, killing any president is incredibly difficult. And also to make sure that they don’t think about us, although they’ll hang us anyway. And France also has nuclear weapons delivered to your home .Suddenly the French can’t live without Macron. But what am I talking about? It’s either Macron or Pinkerton, the song will be the same, and at the same time we’ll shit ourselves in public.
  3. +2
    24 March 2024 05: 51
    The world is much more diverse than we have portrayed it lately. Macron is a politician, but at the same time an official. As a politician, he can give any order. But as an official, he will no longer be able to stop the order he has given. Officials are driven by inertia. K In addition, many politicians are managers of large capital. Speaking of capital, TNCs have recently disappeared from our sight. Some bugs are busy there. I’m generally silent about ISIS. They are silent about the countries that feed it. This is only part of the diversity. But if in detail, then a whole treatise is needed. And all these things are important for us.
  4. 0
    24 March 2024 06: 00
    There are only two combat-ready units in France, and one of them is the Foreign Legion
    Why does the author consider the Foreign Legion to be a combat-ready unit? People serve there for money and French citizenship
    1. -1
      24 March 2024 20: 38
      The foreign legion has serious and regular combat training, in addition, they fight regularly, in every barrel - just a little - they send a foreign legion, besides, the foreigners there are in many ways our citizens - more persistent fighters.
      That is, this is a well-known fact among those who know the realities of the French army. They are very much superior to other parts.
  5. +2
    24 March 2024 06: 29
    Once again, it’s probably not worth discussing Macron, who is trying to pose as at least de Gaulle, but in reality is a political dummy suffering from narcissism. Only the lazy didn’t talk about him today. For the sake of his ambitions, he threw out a cry with which he frightened Europe, with the exception of the Baltic states, who, at the word “Ukraine” and “Russia,” become excited beyond their capabilities. By the way, the Poles reacted to this call in a unique way - at first they decided to pick it up, and then, looking around, they began to slowly work back. The Russian side took into account the “belligerence” of the French president and, of course, drew its own conclusions from this.
  6. 0
    24 March 2024 09: 12
    micron... Sounds good...
  7. BAI
    +1
    24 March 2024 09: 37
    Yes, if NATO could destroy Russia, it would have done it a long time ago, and even without any reason, simply out of hatred for us

    That's the only reason Russia exists. Can't destroy
  8. Eug
    +1
    24 March 2024 11: 57
    The same policy of the United States - Germany was battered through the conflict with Russia, now they are putting the squeeze on the hands of the Christian Republic and Poland. At the same time, they are gradually (temporarily - for elections - and not much) eliminated, focusing on internal problems. And there will always be those who want to carry coals from the burning fire of conflict, especially for the carrot dangling in front...
  9. +3
    24 March 2024 12: 39
    At one time, using a similar logic, we wrote about the uncombat-ready Armed Forces of Ukraine. This turned out to be, alas, not entirely true. Or rather, not at all. You shouldn’t overestimate France’s desire to get involved, but you shouldn’t underestimate the French armed forces either. There are also strong men there who love to fight, and there are weapons for such people.
    1. +2
      24 March 2024 21: 05
      Of course, no one should be underestimated. These are just realities. I think military intelligence should be very familiar with them. I mentioned this in context to better understand what we are talking about. France tends to greatly inflate its importance in many areas, and they often succeed. This success of the French establishment is largely due to the corruption and incompetence of their counterparts.
      For example, one Russian aircraft manufacturer was very proud that it had French avionics - software that runs on board the aircraft. He proudly spoke about this in a radio interview, and from this story, the French provided them with interfaces for compatibility, and all the technical details of implementation were implemented by Russian programmers. In other words, they did all the work themselves and paid a lot of money for overseas developments. Such examples, and in various fields, can be given for a long time.

      What happened in Ukraine is also largely explained by the incompetence, corruption and betrayal of the political clans of Russia; for many years they spent money on Ukrainian politics, as in many other areas, without doing serious work and not being capable of it because of wealth and power they acquired by stealing Soviet property. They are not capable of analytical work or business. They are imitators, fussing over budget money. If Ukrainian policy had been carried out competently, the war would not have been necessary at all. And when it finally became necessary, it could and should have been won quickly and with little bloodshed, that is, this is a different question.

      But again and again the question arises about the incompetence of the current political leadership, which led the country to the situation in which it finds itself.
      Political changes are therefore simply necessary for any successful scenario.
      1. +2
        24 March 2024 23: 14
        Political changes are therefore simply necessary for any successful scenario

        Thanks for the answer, Author!
        As for political changes, I still adhere to a gloomily skeptical position. Some comrades here expect that all this confrontation with the West, Northern Military District, etc. should bring to some positive systemic perturbations. I don't think so - or rather, I think that it doesn't have to happen , this may not happen with the same, if not greater, probability. We have a huge country and various kinds of “necessities” can exist for decades in states on the verge of collapse and cosmetic repairs. Take, for example, the state of heating or water supply, or emergency housing. Political necessities are from the same series - last weekend we witnessed what is called “elections”, and although it is naive to deny great support for GDP among the largest of the majorities, we must understand that in terms of structure and methods what happened was the apogee of the fall of our simulation of democracy. Today we tell ourselves that this was necessary BECAUSE (SVO, consolidation is needed, horses are not changed in midstream, etc.). Tomorrow there will be another reason. The day after tomorrow it may turn out that, as in 1991, there are simply NO other political forces or other political views in society. Which is needed to occasionally check whether everything is going down the drain at full speed. Well, we even finished off a simulation “based on it.” So I don’t see any progress on political changes - people in the State Duma are more busy persecuting gays or artists and expanding the criminal code than solving fundamental problems, of which we have a lot. That's how it was yesterday - that's how it is today. There is nothing to indicate that this will not happen tomorrow.
        1. +1
          25 March 2024 20: 46
          Take, for example, the state of heating or water supply, or emergency housing.


          I completely agree with you - this is a delayed disaster. All the activities of the Yeltsin-Putin clan are the destruction of the country and people. Just as the strategy and methods of warfare cannot be interpreted only by their stupidity, this is sabotage and betrayal.
          That's why I insist on the need for political changes.
  10. 0
    24 March 2024 19: 29
    freedom-loving Corsican people
    Without subsidies from the French budget, the standard of living will drop to the level of Moldova. Do they need it? It is worth noting, however, that all European separatists (with the exception of Catalonia) rely on subsidies from the center - an interesting pattern.
    1. -4
      24 March 2024 21: 28
      Yes, it is possible, especially if none of the special services seriously worked with the separatists and it is not known who is who. This seems to be the case if we look at how they prepared the invasion of Ukraine. But it is possible to carry out an operation under a false flag, for example, the main thing is that it has a real, and not just a psychological or symbolic effect. Undermine the functioning of the French state, cause an environmental disaster, destroy critical facilities, undermine France's ability to conduct military operations, business and the capabilities of French diplomacy. Completely discredit the aggressive policy of France, carry out an intimidation operation so that their citizens die. On the one hand, this will reduce the overall potential of the enemy, and on the other hand, the enemy’s numbness from fear and the need to lick his wounds will help buy time to prepare for a global war.

      For example, everyone understands that the interested parties and the true customers of the recent terrorist attack in Crocus have little to do with the Afghan branch of the Islamic state. In France, this may be a blow of retaliation from supporters of the restoration of the pharaoh in Egypt for the theft of the obelisk that stands on the Place de la Concorde in Paris. The main thing is that this is a blow that will have catastrophic consequences for France.
      1. -3
        24 March 2024 22: 03
        numbing the enemy with fear
        Haven't they realized yet that it is useless to intimidate Western Europeans - it only provokes an even harsher response?
        1. -2
          24 March 2024 22: 27
          Why? Western Europe is helpless and cowardly. What is needed is merciless strikes with a huge number of casualties and destruction. And precisely in Western Europe, and not to iron the Russian-speaking part of Ukraine.
          1. -3
            24 March 2024 22: 40
            And it is in France that there is no such state in Western Europe, France acts as a cheap provocateur, and for this it must be severely punished. France is a very stupid and weak nation that is strong in manipulation and imitation. It is necessary not to imitate, but to strike blows that destroy the potential. Nothing to do with bluffing or the bombing of Voronezh, which they are doing. Surely no one is afraid of this, that’s why they are escalating, boiling Russia like a frog, slowly raising the temperature of the water so that it doesn’t jump out. It is not necessary to frighten, but it is necessary to drown them in their stinking blood, and not shed the blood of our soldiers, and their fear will suddenly appear out of nowhere.
          2. +1
            24 March 2024 22: 43
            Western Europe is helpless and cowardly.
            Yeah, shazz... Scared of Putin's red lines?
            namely merciless blows
            At best, you will get a no-fly zone up to the Urals with all that it entails. If it is not possible to take Kharkov from the poor dill, then the war with all of NATO will end for the Russian Federation according to the Yugoslav scenario. Nuclear war = collapse of the Federation.
            1. -2
              24 March 2024 22: 50
              Why "beggar dill"? Ukrainians are good warriors, they are our Soviet citizens.
              These are generally the only combat-ready soldiers in Europe. And all Western intelligence and communications have already been provided to them. So those who say that there is a war with the entire West, including its most combat-ready part, are right. Drowning the paddling pools in blood is exactly what you need. Macaron-Mikron is a stupid clerk, his owner is Rothschild. It would also be an effective blow to the international Jewish mafia. The Rothschilds would lose face. The problem is the corrupt and incompetent Russian political clan.
              1. 0
                24 March 2024 22: 57
                the only combat-ready soldiers in Europe.
                You are familiar with the real state of affairs in Europe and the mentality of Western Europeans only from the propaganda of the patriotic media. A bit reminiscent of the Japanese confidence that stupid lazy Americans will give up after two blows and ask for mercy laughing How did it all end?
                all Western intelligence and communications have already been provided to them.
                NATO aircraft will quickly gain air supremacy. By the way, “your Soviet citizens” were never given any truly suitable samples of Western weapons.
                1. -2
                  24 March 2024 23: 08
                  No, I know Europe very well. There are, as it were, two questions in one question.
                  NATO aviation means a global war with NATO, which means global nuclear strikes, and this is another topic. We are now talking about the preliminary stage.

                  The fact that they give Ukraine garbage is also true, they kill Soviet citizens with their own hands, for money that the Russian political leadership carefully hid in the West. Our people and for our money, without losing their people and their money.

                  The situation is difficult and we need to win, it is not surprising that, after more than thirty years of the collapse of the conquests of the Soviet Union, the situation is so difficult. But there is only one way - victory.
                  1. +1
                    24 March 2024 23: 09
                    No, I know Europe very well.
                    How many years did you live there? How many Europeans do you know personally? How many languages ​​are you fluent in?
                    An attempt to drown a NATO country in blood is
                    this is a global war with NATO
                    1. -2
                      24 March 2024 23: 18
                      How many years did you live there? How many Europeans do you know personally? How many languages ​​are you fluent in?
                      An attempt to drown a NATO country in blood is

                      wink I have very convincing answers to these questions, but this is kind of personal information, and we are talking about facts. We really have poor regional studies and a lot of other problems, primarily political ones. I thank you for the discussion, I need to run errands now. hi
                      1. 0
                        24 March 2024 23: 42
                        it's like personal information
                        I can say without hesitation that I have been living in England since I was an adult - more than 20 years. There are suspicions about your "awareness" wassat .
                      2. -1
                        24 March 2024 23: 57
                        It’s probably good to sit in a civilized country and use a Western computer to heat
                        The quack of the Soviet Union and the drowning of Western Europeans in blood laughing .
            2. -2
              24 March 2024 23: 00
              The cheap bluff of the corrupt Putin regime will certainly not scare anyone. Their children, mistresses, stolen Soviet property, all in the West, over the hill. Political changes and the coming to power of honest and intelligent people are necessary. A change in political leadership is a must.
              1. 0
                24 March 2024 23: 02
                Political changes and the coming to power of honest and intelligent people are necessary.
                Smart people understand perfectly well how attempts to drown NATO countries in blood will end.
                children, mistresses, stolen Soviet property, everything in the West, over the hill
                Attention, Question smile Why don’t the elites (and just non-poor people) of EU countries run to buy houses in Sochi and Barvikha, open accounts in Sberbank, and teach their children at Moscow State University?
                1. -3
                  24 March 2024 23: 12
                  Smart people understand perfectly well how attempts to drown NATO countries in blood will end.

                  Yes, they understand - competent actions to drown France in blood will lead to victory.
                  And I have already mentioned the need for political change.
                  1. -3
                    24 March 2024 23: 16
                    actions to drown France in blood will lead to victory.
                    Brazil, which will not participate in a nuclear war. In WW3, the West has more opportunities to survive with fewer losses. Russia is guaranteed to collapse; the transformation of the country into an archipelago will be followed by a pair of independences - independent Tatarstan, Free Kamchatka, and so on.
                    1. -1
                      25 March 2024 20: 40
                      I don’t understand your reaction, I feel it as some kind of anger.
                      It seems obvious to me that the West is now bleeding Russia dry with Ukraine, preparing for a big war. They also have Poland. At the same time, they feel sorry for losing their own citizens and their own potential - I don’t want to indicate in the public space the choice of the most effective goals - firstly, it would be useful to improve the balance of forces
                      Without further ado, I still don’t understand who you mean when you write that in the West “there are a lot of men who want to fight.” Apart from Poland and Ukraine, they have no one there. The 20 declared by France with pomp is generally the maximum that France has combat-ready. The entire German armed forces are 000 people. Who's there in England? How many divisions of tough men do you consider yourself to be? Will you volunteer to become a mercenary against your former compatriots? If you fight, then destroy them in their own lair.

                      At the same time, the conditional European decision-making center is concentrated in France. Therefore, a crushing blow to France would be useful for both military, political and diplomatic reasons. Precisely in France.
                      1. -1
                        25 March 2024 20: 52
                        I feel like some kind of embitterment.
                        This is not bitterness, this is surprise at such a level of myopia (and the level of articles on VO). Proposing an attack on NATO in the hope that the bloc of the richest countries in the world will simply get scared is original. This will simply give them a free hand and give them the necessary support from the population.
                        in the west “there are a lot of men who want to fight”
                        There are few people who want to go to Ukraine, which is known here as a mecca for sex tourism, especially when they see Ukrobezhezhens with beer in the parks at home. And there will be those who want to stand up for their country.
                        against former compatriots?
                        If these wonderful people unleash an aggressive war in the hope of drowning Europe in blood, then yes. One consolation is that the people in power are smarter.
                      2. -1
                        25 March 2024 21: 10
                        I agree with you that the corrupt clans of the Russian Federation are not only vile, but also stupid people who despise the country and people they betrayed. They hid the Soviet property they stole over the hill and their treacherous actions greatly complicate the war. But an honest and competent political leadership would have to deliver a pre-emptive and all-crushing blow to France in order to shut up the paddling pools forever.

                        I wrote that if NATO were capable of destroying Russia, it would have done it without any reason. It is the stupidity, meanness, cowardice, corruption and betrayal of the Putin clan that are the main weapons of the ghouls in the war against our people.

                        The fact is that the invasion of Ukraine was necessary as a preventive measure, the war was fought ineptly and the microns became insolent, so they need to be beaten accordingly. You don’t seem to understand that this is aggression against Russia.

                        And what is your military specialty, by the way? None, right? I think that your personal participation in the war against our Motherland could not change the situation at the fronts, but still. Almost everyone served with us, but with you there... almost none of those who are not in the army... you understand...
                        In addition to the fact that there are, say, 20 French in the ranks, and even if all the Germans are good, that’s 000.
                        What did you think - just feed on Russian and Ukrainian blood, constantly fattening on people's grief? The same is also not possible. The Englishwoman has already done a lot of shit. Let's look at their aggressiveness when it comes to their personal skin.
                      3. -1
                        25 March 2024 21: 19
                        None, right?
                        I handle weapons very well, if anything, I learned in Latvia, where they are sold freely, so it won’t be difficult to put me in the ranks. There are quite a lot of people who have passed through the army in Britain and other Western countries.
                        pre-emptive and all-crushing strike against France
                        It will end in nuclear war and the collapse of Russian statehood.
                        stupid people who despise the country and people they betrayed
                        If a nuclear war would not burn these people... Well, yes, stupid Yes . It's better to be so stupid than to be smart guys who want Armageddon.
                      4. -2
                        25 March 2024 21: 21
                        ...thank you very much for the informative answer...
                      5. -1
                        25 March 2024 21: 23
                        Your idealistic and at the same time primitive view of the world is surprising.
                      6. -2
                        25 March 2024 21: 36
                        In fact, Russia has more nuclear weapons than the United States, and besides, the Westerners themselves don’t want to die, shed someone else’s blood with someone else’s hands - that’s true. So I guess America won’t want to end up in hell for France - they regularly abandon their satellites, they would just shut up and it would be the end of NATO and the end of the war.

                        Well, if not, then we’ll see who wins. If war is inevitable, then it is necessary to defeat and drown the monsters in their stinking blood, and not shed the blood of our compatriots.

                        So I think lowering France is a peaceful, noble and fair solution. America will shut up, Germany and Japan will join the USSR and everyone will be fine. Of course, no one will have anything to do with Putin, and he is incapable, neither mentally, nor intellectually, nor in many other senses. It looks like he is doing everything he can to increase the losses of our soldiers and not win the war, of course he needs to leave, but not just one, but the whole clan - the restoration of the USSR is necessary.
                      7. -1
                        25 March 2024 21: 42
                        Germany and Japan will join the USSR
                        belay I think they would prefer nuclear war.
                        America will not want to end up in hell for France
                        France's nuclear arsenals are quite sufficient to cause critical damage. In addition, they understand perfectly well that they won’t be able to sit on the sidelines, otherwise next time they will drown in blood themselves.
                        the restoration of the USSR is necessary.
                        Which, taking into account demographics, will quickly become a Muslim state.
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                      9. -1
                        25 March 2024 22: 01
                        honest people from Holland to Japan
                        More and more wonderful, however belay . Do the Japanese and Dutch need this?
  11. +1
    25 March 2024 01: 01
    [quote] Und insbesondere wäre es meiner Meinung nach gut, einen vernichtenden Präventivschlag gegen Frankreich zu verüben und ihm die Möglichkeit zu nehmen, überhaupt über eine Intervention und Einmischung in den Ukraine-Konflikt nachzudenken./quote]

    Endlich jemand der versteht wie unvermeidlich DAS ist...!!!
  12. 0
    25 March 2024 01: 03
    Quote from Viktior Vinland
    Ein Wechsel in der politischen Führung ist ein muß


    Ja, in Europa Schweden, Norwegen und vor allem den USA...!!!
  13. 0
    25 March 2024 20: 11
    It also happened during the Second World War, when pro-fascist France suddenly turned out to be one of the winners of that war.

    Actually, this was Stalin’s decision. So “suddenly” was for Germany, but not suddenly for the USSR.
    1. -1
      25 March 2024 21: 18
      Strictly speaking, almost all lawyers, politicians and historians specializing in this issue understand that France, according to all norms of international law and in fairness, is a participant in the Hitler coalition. There was no France anywhere near either Tehran or Yalta. The legend says that supposedly the Americans and the British persuaded Stalin to include France in the list of winners. And this, by the way, is an example of the diplomatic victory of the West and the incompetence and myopia of Stalin.
      In fairness, the USSR should have received at least half of Germany, half of Italy, half of France and half of Japan, and Stalin was given one quarter of Germany. And this despite the fact that the Red Army took out the war, and in 1945 there was a huge, multi-million-strong Soviet Army in Europe and Stalin could demand everything he wanted.
      1. +1
        25 March 2024 21: 28
        France, according to all norms of international law and in fairness, is a participant in the Hitlerite coalition

        No. Because Vichy France was not the successor to France, which was destroyed by the fascists. And, accordingly, Gaulle’s France is also a different France.
        Otherwise, we will agree with you that the USSR is the legal successor of the Russian Empire. Which is obviously not true.

        This, by the way, is an example of the diplomatic victory of the West and the incompetence and myopia of Stalin.

        There were Gaullists in France after the victory. It was full of communists. Stalin openly hoped for a rapprochement with France to confront the United States and England. Do not forget that the United States already had nuclear weapons at that time.
        And we had a broken and hungry country. Even with a super army. Which, however, still could not swim across the ocean.
        Therefore, it was necessary to look for allies urgently. This is what caused this attitude towards France and its inclusion in the list of victorious countries.
        And, by the way, the huge investments of the USSR in China at that time were caused by exactly the same thing.

        in 1945 there was a huge, multimillion-strong Soviet Army in Europe and Stalin could demand whatever he wanted

        Could not. The war against Hitler was a war of liberation. The people were completely FOR.
        But to go “forward” to the English Channel would be against our allies, whom the same Stalin praised since 1943. Neither the people nor the army would understand.
        And the opinion that “Stalin would have forced it” - well, yes, the divisions would have swept to the English Channel. What then? How to keep what you have taken unfairly? How to explain this to people? And even under atomic bombs.
        It wouldn't work.
        Stalin was smart and that's why he stopped.
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          25 March 2024 21: 53
          This is a big topic, and it's a legal issue, but maybe someone will write an article or even a book. For example, one of the UN chairmen openly stated this among well-known international lawyers.
          De Gaulle is just such a clown, he sat in London and broadcast all sorts of nonsense on the radio. His influence on the war is infinitely close to zero - De Gaulle is such a French Tikhanovskaya, aka Khodorkovsky, aka Mikron, just a clown, a protege of the puppeteers.
          In the same way, it would not be possible to say that since Hitler was removed, then Germany is different. Everyone, including France, demanded the royal debts from the USSR.
          France had to be divided, just like post-war Germany, and also, reparations had to be paid. These are typical French diplomatic tricks. Also, for the War of 1812, France did not pay Russia anything, while it itself received more from Germany for the First World War than the USSR did for the Second World War.
          I didn't write until the English Channel, but in fairness and justice - half of France, half of Germany, half of Italy and half of Japan. And by the way, we would need it in one piece, and this would provide access to the Atlantic and the Mediterranean Sea. No matter how you cut France in half, everything turns out to be access to the seas, and northern Italy is also a good access to the Mediterranean Sea.
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            25 March 2024 22: 00
            France was to be divided, as was post-war Germany, and also to pay reparations

            Then the Czech Republic and Slovakia.
            And Romania’s reparations should not have been forgiven.
            You, colleague, think in modern terms. Forgetting that the USSR was not at all as super-powerful as it seems to us now. The USSR, standing in Berlin, was extremely vulnerable. The population was exhausted, the people were starving. Cards and all that. The country is in ruins.
            If you occupy half of France and half of Italy, then, forgive me, who “liberated” them. Oh and alas, England and the USA. If they gave us half of France and Italy, then we should have given them half of the future Eastern Bloc, according to your logic? :)
            What for?

            The USSR had the strength to move on, but did not yet have the strength to actively occupy anything. Especially on the territory of those countries whom we so diligently registered as allies. And certainly no one wanted to fight against them.
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              25 March 2024 22: 11
              And America only had two atomic bombs. And a well-preserved France could feed our Army and help in the restoration of the country, for example - French cheese is very good. The history of World War II and the vile and treacherous policies of the Anglo-Saxon allies is a separate and very big issue. And we didn’t have to cross the ocean.

              Eastern Europe is not the countries of Hitler's coalition.
              They were the ones who should have been subject to division. As for Eastern Europe, that’s normal. They raped the islands, Africa, the Middle East, the French colonies. It kind of goes without saying.
              And the aggressor countries, France, Germany, Japan and Italy - in half.
              Romania is, yes, a very cunning country...

              Regarding the occupation forces, precisely because of the liberation and just war of the USSR and because of the great influence of the communist parties, we could fully rely on local personnel. Little England controlled huge India, despite the fact that it was occupied, Alexander the Great controlled vast territories. With the right policies, you can rely on a healthy local element.
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                25 March 2024 22: 23
                America only had two atomic bombs

                Are you talking about Baby and Fat Man? So these are two used bombs. So to speak, for full-scale testing.
                The United States had plenty of plutonium and uranium. They made a lot of it in Oak Ridge.
                But the USSR did not have a bomb. And, what’s even sadder, there was no means of delivery to the United States. Whereas the United States could use English airfields, for example. Or Turkey.

                we could fully rely on local personnel

                We couldn't. We ruled in Vietnam only because we helped the Viet Cong fight the United States. As soon as it was over, they kicked me out. It's almost the same with China. Cambodia - nothing to talk about at all.

                little England controlled huge India, despite the fact that it was occupied

                Because the British worked to control financial flows. They did not control the national identity of Hindus and so on. As a result, now in England the Prime Minister is Indian.
                Return.
                And empires like Russia can only appear if there is a dominant population, religion and culture.
                That is why we are talking about Russians, Orthodoxy and Russian culture.
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                    25 March 2024 22: 35
                    We had the Soviet Union - freedom, humanity, justice, no obscurantism

                    Yes Yes. Two of my great-grandfathers were shot. Because of humanity.

                    The Soviet Union is an excellent state in a geographical sense. And complete ugliness in the ideological. That's why it didn't survive.

                    with a man of Lenin's caliber in the Kremlin, everything could have been different

                    If Lenin had been in Stalin’s place at the beginning of the war, he would have stupidly leaked everything.
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    30 March 2024 19: 40
    Quote: alystan
    Minsk 1,2 is also on Hollande’s conscience (together with Merkel).


    We were forced into this shame (Minsk)?

    After the deception with “NATO expansion to the east”, after the bombing of Belgrade, after the promise to Yanukovych to go to Minsk or Istanbul, there is a deliberate desire to be subjected to humiliation, deception, etc.

    Analysts from APashechka understood this very well, but an order is an order.
    Even from the faces of the opposing side (either in Istanbul, in Minsk, or during negotiations with Yanukovych) it was clear that the dill had come to stall for time.

    Only a very narrow-minded person, either controlled or in a position of interest, could believe them or their “dear Western partners.”

    When "Faberge" is sandwiched by the door frame, anyone will enter into obviously unprofitable negotiations.