Does Russia need an MMA trash heap?

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Does Russia need an MMA trash heap?

Oh, sport, you... What is sport in Russia today? For the most part, it’s a way to make money. Moreover, it requires a fair amount of investment. However, in Russia it is about the same as in the rest of the world, where it is customary to invest in children in sports. Much like how failed Dutch driver Jos Verstappen invested in his son Max. The project turned out to be more than successful.

But let’s leave the world, because today we have a little different from the rest of the world, but the general trend continues - sport has ceased to be a means of developing the spirit and body and, in general, has become a means of developing income.



On the one hand, there is nothing wrong with this, the fact that an athlete earns money from his skills and abilities, he cannot earn anything else, but on the other hand, all this results in the most shameful show, which used to be called the Olympics. No honor, no dignity, no pride for the country: under a white rag, after total humiliation and deprivation of sports citizenship, some especially flexible athletes are granted the highest permission to participate in competitions.

Well, in general, it’s normal - the rag is white, but the dollar is still green... And the reward, if anything happens, can then be taken back by the court and given to whomever it should be.

But that's all in general. In general, today sport in Russia is becoming an elitist matter, since you really need to invest in it. But that's not what we're talking about. And about what sport can demonstrate to citizens.

Football, for example, has been demonstrating for 30 years how you can earn huge amounts of income without doing anything. Somehow I can’t even call it a salary. Hockey is more difficult. There, at least you have to be able to skate, but football doesn’t require such expenses.

But football has a competitor.


I don’t know if MMA can be called a sport; we’ll talk about the sports component a little lower. In the meantime, we will talk about a slightly different component, cultural, which, I admit, I don’t like even more than performances under the white flag of surrender.

So, MMA. It seems to be a sport that takes its name from the English mixed martial arts. It is also completely mistakenly called “fights without rules”, because there are more than enough rules. This is a combined martial arts with a combination of many techniques. MMA is a full-contact fight using striking techniques and wrestling both standing and on the ground.

As such a sport, MMA is no better or worse than any other contact sport, such as taekwondo or boxing. The whole question is how to approach this.

We will approach from the point of view from which you can take a close look at what MMA is today. What was sports yesterday - yes, it was. Today?

Today I propose to look at the part that is not sports.

A small digression.

Who is most interested in MMA? Immigrants from the Caucasus and Central Asia. Who makes up the backbone of MMA in our country? So far, they are from the Caucasus region.

This is fine. From time immemorial, what was held in high esteem by Caucasians? That's right, wrestling and football. And MMA fit in there like it was at home. Well, Chechens and Dagestanis do not have a genetic predisposition to water and winter sports. They don't like running, swimming, skiing...

In Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, from where so-called “foreign specialists” are pouring in, everything is no better. I specifically looked at the statistics of these countries at the Olympic Games.

Tajikistan was able to win as many as 32 Olympic medals in 4 years:
1 gold (LA, hammer throw);
1 silver (Greco-Roman wrestling);
2 bronze (judo and boxing).

Uzbekistan will be cooler, 36 medals:
10 gold (boxing – 5, weightlifting – 2, wrestling – 2, taekwondo – 1);
6 silver (boxing – 2, wrestling – 2, judo – 2);
20 bronze (boxing – 8, wrestling – 4, weightlifting – 1, judo – 5, trampolining – 1, artistic gymnastics – 1).

As you can see, my calculations are confirmed. About 80% are from martial arts. Well, it seemed okay, there were a lot of good runners among the Africans, but somehow there weren’t any decent shooters.

But in general, today's MMA industry is almost completely tailored to this audience. A fight composed of several styles is just right for representatives of the Central Asian region. Everything is quite primitive in terms of spectacle and not expensive in terms of costs. Yes, actually, what could be the costs if gloves are not even required?

But a loyal policy of the state is simply necessary, on whose territory this abomination can be produced and multiplied.

There is loyalty, organized crime groups “Diaspora” are protected, “clubs” like “clubs” are opened in batches for “foreign specialists”. MMA clubs. Combined with prayer rooms. And in these “clubs” coaches appeared from somewhere. Uzbek and Tajik bottling, naturally.

As a result, there was news in the media. Just read it letter by letter: in the capital, security forces broke up Russia's largest underground MMA tournament "Colosseum" between illegal migrants. That is, all the same Uzbeks, Tajiks, and Kyrgyzs came to Russia illegally and a tournament was organized for them here.


Did I understand correctly - they didn’t come to us to work, but to train in beating people’s faces?

After all, an illegal immigrant is not an athlete. He has no documents, he is not registered with the sports association or the relevant medical center. He just came to punch and kick. And, as I understand it, and I’m generally understanding, he doesn’t know how to do anything else, and he doesn’t really want to.

Why should this newcomer lay tiles or bricks if he (according to one disgusting individual) earns so much in one fight that he doesn’t need to think about anything?

And today I clearly say: while our government is flirting with diasporas, while individual governors fall under the leaders of the abu bandits, in our cities these organized crime groups “Diasporas” are raising fighters. These are not athletes, they are just fist fighters. Bandits are about to take to the streets for a very transparent purpose.

These are simply trained killers who will kill. Whom? And who was practically acquitted in that very Chelyabinsk region, which can no longer be called a vilayet, and whose governor, by strange chance, does not yet wear a burqa?

So, the fairest court of the Chelyabinsk region, the Kartalinsky City Court, assigned this MMA-handsome Rustam Baizhumenov a suspended sentence for the murder of the Russian Maxim Nikitin, a voluntary participant of the SVO.


The killer killed Baizhumenov, and not through negligence, but with a well-practiced blow to the larynx of a Russian guy who intervened in the ugly scene that was staged by the same Baizhumenov.

However, about the Chelyabinsk region, whose officials have long been dancing the Lezginka in an embrace with the Diaspora organized crime group, there has been a flow of information for a long time, but the leaders do not care at all. And the State Duma deputies and the head of the Investigative Committee had to intervene so that the abu bandit would end up back behind bars with the prospect of spending 10-15 years there.

Yes, boxing, wrestling, now MMA. The cult of power, which flourishes in the regions from which a flow of migrants of not the highest cultural level comes to us today, has long been a component of everyday life. And sport for abu migrants is not a sport, it is a component of life that is akin to jihad. It doesn't matter cultural or physical. The important thing is that Asian chauvinism, Russophobia and tribalism are added to this physical preparation.

Do you know what tribalism is? A picture of this is “jackal packs” of migrants or their children, terrorizing everyone in their areas of residence. True, they call it “brotherly help,” but, in essence, it is packs of jackals who beat up Russian children one by one in schools.

In general, this flock-aul principle is very clearly visible. One migrant is an organism quieter than water and lower than the grass, he even pretends to communicate in some way. But once you gather a flock of five and beyond - that’s it, forget about intelligence, all instincts. Moreover, the instincts of cowards are in a pack.

And their attitude towards strangers-guiaurs is complete contempt. First of all, to the weak - the gene of caution works, none of the migrants will ever interfere alone. Only in a crowd, a flock with fellow tribesmen. Yes, in childhood the social circle can still be diverse, but not for long; at the age of 10 it becomes exclusively diasporic.

And let’s be honest, diaspora education is not like that. More precisely, they educate there, of course, but who? Abu bandits. The best example is the scandal at the youth rugby tournament in St. Petersburg, where teams from Dagestan and Ingushetia staged a party. The authorities, as usual, chewed a bucket of multinational snot, saying that all this was within the framework of sportsmanship, but the Internet is full of evidence of how young rugby players of these republics behaved: they insulted all the participants indiscriminately, booed the winners, broke the rules, beat the participants , used choking techniques during the game.

Plus the favorite multinational friendly “throat-cutting” gestures towards other participants. In general, pressure from the Caucasian side took place constantly.

I wonder why the Ministry of Sports of Dagestan, having published the results of the tournament, closed comments? Is it because the students of Dagestan Rugby behaved like animals at the “Unconquered Leningrad” tournament and did everything to ruin the tournament and their memory? And the Internet is filled with indignant appeals to the Rugby Federation? The Federation, however, is busy with something very serious and has not yet been able to respond.

And these were born in 2010 and 2012. What is in the minds of those who are older is a question... But it is clear that nothing good.

This part of, so to speak, diaspora MMA is nothing more than simply raising militants on Russian territory. Underground, in underground clubs. For what? Yes, all for the same thing that already happened in Azerbaijan, Moldova, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan after the collapse of the USSR. To rob, kill, so to speak, to realize their friendship in the conditions of modern Russia.

Excuse me, but what else should I expect from illegal immigrants who entered the country and do not want to work?

They’re not bringing their own culture, and they’re not going to integrate into Russian culture, are they? However, we have all already seen what kind of “culture” they can bring. A demonstration of smelly asses under the pretext of fulfilling religious needs swept across all of Russia.


And it wasn’t the urge to pray, no. This is a demonstration that the visitors don’t care about anything, they just want it that way. Allah will not accept such, if I may say so, “namaz”, because there is one violation after another, starting with ghusl/wudu and ending with the fact that if you believe Abdulkerim Alizadeh, the author of the “Islamic Encyclopedic Dictionary”, unintentional omission of an obligatory prayer is not considered a sin , but this prayer must be performed at another time.

By the way, one of the main requirements is that the place of prayer be clean. It should not be a slaughterhouse, a cemetery, a pen for some animals, or a place for performing natural needs. So the metro and underground passages are excluded, they are regarded as dungeons, and performing namaz in a dungeon is the same as praying among sewage. But - nothing bothers some.


But “this is different.” Here it is important to show the infidels that a real Tajik hero did not care about everything except his desires. Today, “namaz” in the subway or on the bus, fights, drug dealing are not a very rich cultural layer for migrants. Very enriching spiritually.

And here it is very important that these organisms understand exclusively the language of force. And their idols are mostly in the MMA ring. And this also causes a lot of problems.

Now let's move on to sports.

To begin with: I myself wanted to talk to someone sane from that (MMA) side, but alas, the only contender for this, in my understanding, fellow countryman Misha Mavashi, did not respond to invitations made by all available means. And the sports component of MMA will have to be analyzed in this way... in our own way.

What is sport? This is first and foremost respect. Respect for the opponent, the rules of fair fighting, and the judges.


Where is the respect in MMA? In trash talk, where fighters spit at each other and tell the cameras who took whose sister to the movies? Yes, someone will say that this is an “inalienable tradition” and so on, but just transfer this to the final of any competition, at least in boxing, and the difference will be obvious.

Well, 80% of this is feigned rudeness, for the sake of stirring up interest in the fight, so that an inexperienced viewer will paint a picture of a bloody battle in perspective and pay their hard-earned money for the broadcast. It’s no secret, I hope that in the vast majority of countries MMA broadcasts are paid. And if the viewer wants bread and circuses, then for his 50 dollars he simply must get them.

MMA has a unique target audience. According to MMAFacts, the bulk of the American audience consists of viewers under 24 (10%), 24 to 34 (30%) and 35 to 44 (another 30%). Men make up 75 to 90% of the audience. By the way, the average annual income of target audience is up to $50 per year, which is not even an average. In terms of ethnicity, the vast majority are African American and Hispanic.

The study found five main reasons why people watch MMA:
- excitement;
- sports betting;
- application of knowledge;
- vicarious achievement;
- socialization.

Everything here is clear, except, perhaps, for the substitutionary achievement. But with him everything is simple: if the idol of a person who has not reached a more or less significant level wins, then the fan, as it were, takes over part of the achievement. It’s like “We won.” Well, you understand, we also usually win those who do it at the screens, and not sit in the trenches.

In Asia, everything is also not bad, interest in fights is growing. And here, both from Russians of Asian origin and from illegal migrants. And the result is the disruption of illegal championships among illegal immigrants, held in quite Russian “sports” clubs such as “Firuz team”, which is on 7th Tekstilshchikov Street, building 5, which belongs to the autonomous NGO “Civil-Patriotic Organization “Nadezhda”. This organization seems to be (not sure) engaged in the patriotic education of youth, according to its statutory documents. True, these documents do not specify for which country Nadezhda is raising patriots.

And then, during the raid in the “Firuz team”, about 50 illegal immigrants were detained, the vast majority were Tajiks, protocols were drawn up against 20, providing for administrative liability for violating migration legislation, 10 were subject to deportation from the Russian Federation.


Very strange “patriotic values” are fostered by the NGO “Civil Patriotic Organization “Nadezhda”.

But illegal immigrants are half the story, if not the tip of the iceberg. To illegal fights you can immediately add drug trafficking (and don’t say that this is the lot of blacks in the USA), underground betting and other pleasures that are common in the countries of Central Asia and are not yet very widespread here. Rumor has it that bacha bazi is no longer uncommon in the capital's underground establishments for migrants.

This is how we get MMA. It’s a very mixed martial arts and it’s not entirely clear who is fighting with whom.

Moreover, in no case should we indiscriminately condemn everyone involved in this. Whoever likes what, and even in MMA there are a large number of worthy people.

Ossetian MMA fighter Alan Abaev:

I want to dedicate this victory to everyone who is participating, who is there at the Northern Military District. I would like to dedicate the victory to the Storm-Ossetia battalion. And give the entire fee to them. It's more needed there.



There are no questions about this person, as an example of a real fighter. The point here is not how he earned the money and how he disposed of it. It's all about how noble everything looks.

And here is the second example, Timurlan Pirmatov, who has already been dubbed Primatov on the Internet.


Born, raised, studied and trained in Krasnoyarsk. He studied at a Russian school, and naturally has a Russian passport. He integrated very actively, and as a result, he enters fights exclusively with the Kyrgyz flag. Before a fight, he loves to tell in the purest Russian language that he, like no one else, has the true qualities of a champion. Which, however, does not stop him from beating the gong on the sly. But to hit a Russian before the battle begins is an honor for a Kyrgyz!

The Russian, Yaroslav Kuk, was not a touchy person at all. And he didn’t harbor any grudges for the blow, however, he gave the champion-batyr Pirmatov a complete beating. And that’s it, the mask of culture fell off the hero.

“Haters and others! Take a walk in the forest! And I will continue to earn money, I just earned enough for two cars!”

And today such bearded pornography is the idol of those who gather in jackal packs when they are young and catch Russian schoolchildren one by one. And in between such friendly holidays, they go to MMA clubs. And there, naturally, after prayer, they train.


I have nothing against prayer, especially when it is held in a specially designated place, and not on a bus or at the subway exit. And the Koran, it should be noted, is a very worthy human creation.

Our main problem is that we are looking at Islam from the same point of view as Orthodoxy. We pray, fast, listen to the priest - this is not about Islam. Islam is a military-political doctrine of survival as much as a religion can be.

And the Koran, from my point of view, is more like a charter. And in general, this gave a military-religious (commander + political officer) platform for waging wars. Let me note – successful wars. It was thanks to severe discipline in both components that, in general, the Quraish Arab tribe, which was not the most numerous and far from the richest, conquered both Christian Byzantium and Zoroastrian Iran.

Are they training conquering fighters in underground MMA clubs? Why not? This fits quite normally into the doctrine of Wahhabi radicalism, and the Tajiks and Uzbeks will not bring anything else here. They already carry everything that is prohibited, such as niqabs and hijabs, prayers anywhere, and so on. It's prohibited there. But here for some reason it immediately became possible. There, a beard and niqab are a symbol of Wahhabism, but in Russia they are immediately a cultural heritage.

It is this underground banned “cultural heritage” that must be fought. If, of course, tomorrow we want to walk the streets calmly, and not shy away from packs of jackals in the gateways. And somehow the flock is getting bigger. Surprisingly, it’s a working day, and they are wandering around the city. So, do you have something to live on? And when it’s gone, where will they get it? Rob the Russians? I believe in this option too. Judging by what the head of the Chelyabinsk vilayet is doing, the hour is not far off when a Tajik will tell me what I should do and how to respect him. And his offspring, trained by caring coaches, will help him in this.

Considering that visiting young people, judging by the data of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, which knits them in batches in underground clubs, have MMA warriors in their heads, who for the most part are complete Russophobes and Russ-cutters, our bright multinational future will not be so bright. But multinational from the heart. Many nationalities will strangle us with all diligence, I mean that.

Of course, to prevent this from happening (such a mental thing), what is needed? We need more people-friendly films about how good it is for Russian girls to be married to anyone other than Russians (and in no case vice versa), more Lezginka and pilaf, especially in Russian schools, more textbooks rewritten on demand stories.

And hammer, hammer, hammer these quarrelsome Russians, especially in areas where the Russian population is from 80 to 90%, that in fact 100, 110, 120 or more nationalities live there. And everyone lives amicably, and if something happens, it is in no way the fault of respected foreign specialists.

And don’t even think about remembering how these same specialists, not professionally, but very sincerely, killed Russians on their lands of Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, Tajikistan, carefully ennobled by the Russians at their own expense. And now it’s not those Russophobes, but their descendants here in Russia, who will plant Bukhara and Chimkent with all their might. And individual representatives of the authorities in the regions, under multinational “okay”, will help them in this.

Total

It’s time to start tightening legislation for migrants. For performing religious functions in public places - detain, mercilessly fine, expel. At the same time, of course, it is worth considering the issue of organizing prayer rooms, but let the diasporas rent the premises. Everyone will do something useful. We are not in Saudi Arabia, where there is a mosque on every street, but this can and should be met halfway. At the same time, there will be no obscenity on playgrounds and in passages.

MMA clubs, behind which representatives of the Diaspora organized crime group loom, should be closed, but criminal proceedings will be opened not only against migrants, but also their accomplices from among the Russians. And Russians should be punished for collaborating with illegal immigrants in such a way that everything will fall apart at the seams. So that no one even dares to think about taking money from illegal abu tourers.

We want to live in a decent country, right?
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  1. +54
    21 March 2024 04: 56
    I agree with the author. If we take MMA, then, for me, this is not a sport, but a simple fight. But, in fact, I don’t consider purely artistic sports to be sports: judges’ assessments are a subjective thing, whatever one may say. In the same figure skating, ice dancing. Sports, in my opinion, are something else. Athletics is a sport. Basketball, curling, fencing - everywhere there are clear criteria for victory. And in sports where the winner is determined on the principle of “more/less liked”, there is not much smell of sports.
    But something needs to be done about migrants a long time ago. But there is no desire on the part of the authorities.
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      1. -27
        21 March 2024 05: 13
        Discussing elections is pointless. And both with us and with them. Democracy was invented for not very smart people.
        As for the article, here horses and people are mixed together. It seems like an article about the problem of MMA, but in fact it all came down to visitors.
        If we talk about the matter, then among the first champions in martial arts there were Russians, for example Oleg Taktarov; he definitely cannot be classified as an abu bandit.
        In my opinion, sports and problems with migrants should not interfere, and what kind of sports to engage in is everyone’s choice. Some people play in the towns, while others ride their bikes down the mountain, and in winter!
        1. +32
          21 March 2024 06: 05
          Quote: Mikhail-Ivanov
          In my opinion, sports and problems with migrants should not interfere, and what kind of sports to engage in is everyone’s choice.

          100%, among the fighters there are also worthy people: Shlemenko, Petr Yan, Volkov, etc. and Vladimir Mineev, who is at the Northern Military District (I watched his video from there 3-4 days ago), aren’t these the right values? It all depends on the person, and these guys have everything in order with their life position/traditions/values.

          And regarding migrants, and MMA culture in general... Well, let’s say we ban MMA in Russia, will this make young migrants on the street stop gathering in crowds and beating up Russian guys? Or will migrants no longer start fighting among themselves or anyone else over territory? They will go to boxing/wrestling sections and also form groups/like-minded people, and dispors will cover them from above.

          So the problem is not in MMA, but in the state.... which encourages such behavior of migrants in our country.
          1. +28
            21 March 2024 08: 02
            In the 80s and 90s, I saw enough of these “mmas” in all forms at a rural disco in the village, one on one, crowd against crowd, and crowd against one. And the female "mma". Why call a village fight a sport? Let them go back to their villages and lash out at each other as much as they want.
          2. +7
            21 March 2024 11: 56
            You give the example of the “major league” of MMA, but the author writes about MMA garbage.
            1. +1
              21 March 2024 12: 05
              Quote: sifgame
              You give the example of the “major league” of MMA, but the author writes about MMA garbage.

              The whole industry is connected there, you can’t just get into the major leagues (of the West, for example), you will have to gain experience at a lower level... and the same MMA organizations in Russia also exist at different levels, and they are supplied with fighters by “MMA garbage dumps”.

              And then how to close them at the legislative level? The entire industry needs to be demolished... the author doesn’t only mean migrants, but also the southern regions of Russia in particular, and there it is held in high esteem (wrestling/mmma, etc.)... but even if by some miracle they close it down, that’s it it will go underground and will not help.
          3. +4
            21 March 2024 23: 26
            Once again I’ll quote Kozma Prutkov - “Look at the root”! Who do the diasporas mentioned in the article turn to to excuse themselves from punishing their “horsemen”? To the authorities! Which, as stated in the article, “fell under these diasporas”! What is the conclusion? The authorities in the country are creating a backbone of people who despise and hate the population and the country to which they arrived. And if a conflict occurs between the authorities and the population, to keep the population in check, the authorities will use these migrant guardsmen! Which, as events show, people They won’t regret it - they are a target for them! Which can be humiliated, beaten or even killed! Allah will not punish, but the owner will also give you money! Added to the fun!
            1. 0
              21 March 2024 23: 34
              As they said in ancient Rome - “Is fecit cui prodest - done by the one who benefits”!
        2. 0
          21 March 2024 07: 33
          Quote: Mikhail-Ivanov
          It seems like an article about the problem of MMA, but in fact it all came down to visitors.

          Yes, everything is mixed up in this article. The vinaigrette turned out to be of poor quality. What did the author want to write about? About "bad MMA"? What's bad about it? MMA shows that diversely developed fighters are superior to masters of one type of martial arts. Trash talk? So this is for the show, to attract the maximum number of viewers. Almost everyone knows about Muhammad Ali and Mike Tyson (even those far from boxing), but only boxing connoisseurs know about Julio Cesar Chavez. Why? And it's all about the media. Mohammed and Mike knew how to show themselves, they said such things about their rivals that sometimes “their ears dropped”, the result was natural. And in the modern world of MMA, McGregor and Jones are known more than others not only because of their excellent career and decent data, but also because of trash talk. These are the rules of the show, and without the show there will be no maximum profit, and without it there will be no decent earnings for the fighters... Yes, single MMA diamonds (Fedor Emelianenko) could become famous and recognizable even without “media dirt”, but these are now rather exceptions from the rules...
          The author started with MMA, and the article shifted to the topic of migrants. Well, I would like to ask, why do Uzbeks and Tajiks, Dagestanis and Chechens have a strong desire for martial arts, but most Slavic guys do not show it? Our only hand-to-hand combat section has closed (it was about forty years old), boxing and judo are still holding on, but the bulk of the students are children from six to ten years old, and only a few teenagers. Why? And then we are surprised (although I am rarely surprised by anything anymore) that at the regional grappling competitions in the quarterfinals there was not a single representative of Slavic appearance left...
          1. +23
            21 March 2024 09: 05
            Quote: Doccor18
            why do Uzbeks and Tajiks, Dagestanis and Chechens have a strong craving for martial arts?

            Because you don’t need to wave your brains with your fists, only instincts. And in order to create something, you need to learn and think. And have a thirst for knowledge. It's long and boring. And dragging the Middle Ages into the 21st century is easy and fun, especially in a crowd. Russia pulled them out of there, but they are holding on by their teeth.
            1. +3
              21 March 2024 11: 13
              I don't agree with you. It depends on your upbringing. And specifically from paternal upbringing. A boy will not want to take up wrestling/boxing/rugby if only his mother raises him. Well, I haven't seen anything like this. It is the father (often who has served conscript duty) who understands that the son must be not only a breadwinner/worker, but also a protector/warrior. After all, everyone can answer for themselves: with whom does their little son go for walks, with whom does his homework, with whom does he play and chat at home? This is what boys grow up to be. And the Middle Ages in the 21st century creep out of every smartphone. And there’s no need to boast about who we pulled out of the Middle Ages. We fall back so that we just hold our cap.
              1. +8
                21 March 2024 11: 27
                Representatives of Russia have been regularly taking prizes at various scientific Olympiads for many years. How many of them are also Russians?
              2. +5
                21 March 2024 17: 37
                Dmitry, excuse me, but I disagree with you. Personal experience. I don’t remember my father at all; he disappeared when my sister was born (3,5 years younger). But already in the first grade I went to swimming, in the 5th grade to the pentathlon - it didn’t work out. In the 7th grade, fencing, epee, and even received the CMS. After the 8th sailor. And all this, as you understand, without a father.
              3. +2
                22 March 2024 10: 44
                Quote: Guron
                It depends on your upbringing. And specifically from paternal upbringing. A boy will not want to take up wrestling/boxing/rugby if only his mother raises him.

                We have a country of single mothers, and our only son goes to a music school, which 99% of the time will not help him in ANY way in life.
            2. +2
              22 March 2024 07: 39
              Biryulyovo, park. Under the bushes the creators are looking for something, probably a theme for creation
          2. +6
            21 March 2024 10: 33
            There is a craving, but unlike the “wooden” ones you cited, they are going to build their whole lives on this - waving their arms and legs and not thinking with their heads.
          3. 0
            21 March 2024 17: 03
            When my son entered second grade, he decided that it was time for him to take up martial arts. A sports complex was opened right next to us. I came in and asked if there was a judo section for children. They answer, there is a coach, there is a gym, bring at least 15 children, we will open it. Ok, I think there will be a parent meeting one of these days.
            At the general meeting, he asked to speak and announced. To my surprise, the mothers attacked me. Oh, yes, they will cripple there, they will raise animals. This resonated with me (just the day before they stopped conscripting people into the army from Dagestan due to non-regulation), and I told the mothers and teachers everything I thought about them for raising their children to be vegetables.
            But the judo section was still opened. But judo is castrated, neither painful nor suffocating. I found an MMA club with a group for children. Over time, I went there myself and studied for several years until I seriously injured my knee. Afterwards I stopped, due to age.
            What I want to say is, kick your boys away from the computers and into the halls. MMA is a great thing for a young man, it involves striking and wrestling. And what will enter the army, and indeed adult life in general, will not be a vegetable, but a self-confident, prepared guy who will punch anyone in the face and withstand a blow.
            1. +3
              21 March 2024 20: 29
              Quote: sergey32
              What I want to say is, kick your boys away from the computers and into the halls. MMA is a great thing for a young man, it involves striking and wrestling. And what will enter the army, and indeed adult life in general, will not be a vegetable, but a self-confident, prepared guy who will punch anyone in the face and withstand a blow.

              Absolutely agree!
          4. +3
            21 March 2024 17: 25
            Everything new forgotten old In the 80s of the last century we had such a fight as pankration, what can I say, also MMA and sometimes more cruel.
            1. +1
              21 March 2024 20: 34
              Quote: saigon
              in the 80s of the last century we had such a struggle as pankration

              And now there is. The St. Petersburg team performed great at the Russian Championship...
              1. 0
                22 March 2024 17: 46
                Well, you have to look, remember your bad youth
    2. +2
      21 March 2024 13: 45
      Athletics is a sport. Basketball, curling, fencing - everywhere there are clear criteria for victory. And in sports where the winner is determined on the principle of “more/less liked”, there is not much smell of sports.

      What about an amateur? . For me, this is a completely professional assessment. hi
    3. +6
      21 March 2024 14: 31
      Sports, in my opinion, are something else.

      The sport should grow from children's free sections, and not by buying players for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Then people will become interested.
      1. 0
        22 March 2024 14: 13
        The sport should grow from children's free sections, and not by buying players for hundreds of thousands of dollars. T

        This is how the Olympic movement was intended. That’s why there are principles like “the main thing is not participation, but victory.” If the main thing is victory, then this is just a project and you need to get the maximum result with fewer resources. And it turns out that it is more effective to buy a ready-made player. And doping comes from there too.
    4. 0
      21 March 2024 17: 27
      I would (but this is solely my opinion) separate these sports into some kind of separate organization, without the Olympics, or with my own, whatever they call it. And the Olympics are sacred, I remember how, as a child, I dreamed of becoming an Olympic champion (epee, fencing). It didn’t work out, of course, but childhood dreams sometimes lead to such actions...
  2. +8
    21 March 2024 05: 00
    On the one hand, there is nothing wrong with this, the fact that an athlete earns money from his skills and abilities, he cannot earn anything else, but on the other hand, all this results in the most shameful show, which used to be called the Olympics.

    I would compare all this to the fights of forced gladiators.
    “Modern gladiators”, whether professional boxers, MMA fighters, hockey players and football players, etc., are contracted and not free people, but the same slaves. Slaves of money, first of all. For which they agree to do anything.
    But the Olympic movement had completely different, more humane and fair principles in terms of competition. But even here, the supremacy of profit instead of rewards gradually prevailed. Hiding behind the goal of winning coveted awards, athletes, without even admitting it to themselves, wait for the rewards due/promised to them. Honor and glory are no longer enough for them. From a young age, they all dream of future millions in earnings.
    You can't just get rid of all this. Society itself needs to change. And power too.
    1. +8
      21 March 2024 05: 15
      But the Olympic movement had completely different, more humane and fair principles in terms of competition. But even here, the supremacy of profit instead of rewards gradually prevailed.

      Politics intervened there! They sat and counted the medals. And everyone - both the USA and the USSR.
      1. +8
        21 March 2024 05: 27
        I meant the whole world. Some came to this earlier, like the West, and some later, like us. Starting from the mid-80s, we were intensely drawn into this with all sorts of kickboxing tournaments and martial arts. Hockey players, the most gifted ones, began to be “taken away” to the NHL even earlier. And then, in the 90s, everything went downhill.
        1. +4
          21 March 2024 05: 38
          In our country, sport was a state matter, but in the West, almost everything is private and built on profits from activities. There is nothing surprising in the fact that our hockey players went to play in the NHL, just as there is nothing surprising in the fact that the NHL is now coming to play with us in the KHL.
  3. +22
    21 March 2024 05: 17
    Does Russia need an MMA trash heap?

    It’s more appropriate to ask the question: “Who needs an MMA trash heap in Russia?”
    The Roman patricians were also fans of deadly gladiator fights... Yes
    It's so cool to watch from the outside how healthy guys (even girls) beat each other to get part of the stolen money (because the moneybags themselves can no longer do anything)...
    I remember in the USSR there were punishments for using combat sambo techniques and similar martial arts. There is an opportunity to follow this tradition - to introduce by law criminal liability for the use of techniques (if you are such a master, you will be able to dodge blows, and if you strike yourself, go to the zone and train your will and endurance there).
    It’s time to separate sports and money, and foreign citizens with similar skills have nothing to do in Russia at all.
    1. +3
      21 March 2024 10: 35
      Yes, there was such a thing and it was at least considered an aggravating circumstance. hi
  4. +9
    21 March 2024 05: 25
    In Tashkent in Soviet times there was a hockey team "Binokor", which translated means "Builder". There were not enough stars from the sky, but they played in the first league for several years. True, there were Uzbeks there like a cat crying, but still. MMA, Western cultural values ​​that took root in Russia after the collapse of the USSR, where many things were prohibited and there was no sausage. But it’s not so bad, in the schools of our county town they began to instill rounders, I saw an announcement that interschool competitions are coming, I should go and see.
    1. +8
      21 March 2024 06: 25
      But it’s not so bad, in the schools of our district town they began to vaccinate lapta, I saw an announcement that interschool competitions are coming, I need to go and see.

      Alex,
      good day,
      Lapta is a rather boring game these days, but in Soviet childhood, I don’t know where they learned the rules from, they played in the yard. But I also met “Russian towns” in childhood and liked it better: both the strength (the bat has such a decent weight) and the rangefinder. But have you seen many of our “leaders” with a bat from the “national” sport in their hands? But the Amers can’t do without a photo with a baseball. Not a reproach. And about priorities.
      hi
      1. +11
        21 March 2024 06: 39
        hi
        And here are the "Russian towns"
        In our county town, in that “sausage-free, brand-free, terrible” time, there was a Gorodosh stadium, where stages and the RSFSR championship in this sport were held, with about 150 people. The stadium was always full during competitions, but MMA was not it was. And representatives of our city federation even took medals. Yes, I myself studied in the section, had a youth rank. Now, on the site of the stadium, there is a paid tennis court. And then they didn’t take money during the competitions. Why take it? When you could look from behind the net, and if you climbed up a little, you had a wonderful view from above. Moreover, there were many more spectators than the stadium could accommodate. It was a holiday. hi
      2. +8
        21 March 2024 07: 10
        Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
        Amer can’t do without a photo with a baseball

        American football is a moronic game, comparable to the Americans themselves.
        1. -7
          21 March 2024 07: 19
          American football is a moronic game, comparable to the Americans themselves.

          I agree.
          like basketball, volleyball, everything about them is stupid, and even the device you wrote from is 80% licensed from stupid amers.
          And little things - for example, the railway in Russia from stupid Amers.
          laughing
          1. +2
            21 March 2024 10: 11
            The USA is a country of visitors, they should be grateful to the whole world for their achievements ;-)
        2. +3
          21 March 2024 10: 37
          It's not completely stupid, it's just rugby oversimplified.
    2. +6
      21 March 2024 10: 35
      And lapta, by the way, is very interesting; I remember playing it at school. hi
  5. +8
    21 March 2024 05: 41
    In no republic of the former large country there was a fight without rules. So, where big money is spinning, something appears. How do MMA fights differ from gladiator fights? Only in that fans do not give life to fighters, or doom them to death. Digital technologies and the like savages are closely intertwined.
  6. +15
    21 March 2024 05: 53
    Cut without waiting for peritonitis!
  7. -23
    21 March 2024 06: 06
    MMA is strong and a great sport, football is gay
    1. +6
      21 March 2024 06: 19
      football is gay
      We can agree on something. It’s not for nothing that fans sometimes shout when a penalty is awarded: “Referee, gay!” And the team, if it lost without will, is gay... smile However, this says more about the culture of the fans than about the game itself. There are a sufficient number of injuries, they can break legs and arms and ribs and get SHM of varying severity.
    2. 0
      21 March 2024 18: 23
      In Latin it says: “Nomen est omen.” However, after the nonsense you said, this proverb does not apply to your nickname. You must be a spy for the USA, one of the few places where they don't understand football. laughing
  8. +13
    21 March 2024 06: 17
    Sport is a social institution. It only reflects what is happening in society.
    If the society is capitalist, then sport is exclusively about money, no matter how good (or not so good) intentions you engage in it.
    If there is a crisis in a capitalist society, then the growth of aggression is directly proportional to the situation in it. MMA is one of the ways to make money, the notorious “social elevator”, to quickly master striking and mixed fighting techniques without “philosophies”, which can be useful here and now.
    Somehow, after the end of the special operation in Chechnya, they began to develop ballet and music there, so that, as Voltaire wrote, “to soften morals,” but machismo, wrestling, etc. And everyone liked it)))
    But everyone wants an iPhone, for some the way to it is through a long and lengthy education, and for others through a “spinner.” That's the whole story.
    Increased aggression under capitalism is a prerequisite for existence; the greater the crisis (fewer resources) - the higher the aggression. And in our days, the “less” aggressive ones, karate or judo, are being replaced by MMA. Where you don’t learn kata or pinana for months, but immediately hit the pear.
    1. +2
      21 March 2024 08: 17
      Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
      quickly master percussion and mixed techniques without “philosophies”

      "Quickly", well, well...
      Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
      and for others through the “spinner”

      Well, if you associate mixed martial arts with “spinner,” then no comment.
      1. +7
        21 March 2024 08: 25
        Well, if you associate mixed martial arts with “spinner”, then no comments

        Did you write this just for the sake of writing?
        That’s not the point, and the article is not about step-by-step mastery of martial arts, but why is that?
        But in fact, I see that we have MMA on rent, children and teenagers go there, and not in karate. So, as it seems to them, and not to me, it’s faster: oops, hit the bag and it’s already... done.
        In the 70-90s, karate was the most “fashionable”, now there are no people at all: no one wants to grind out katas from the age of 5, like my son. Immediately into a fight at 14, I learned to “spin” and...okay...or maybe not) just kidding
        I'm talking about the essence of the problem, not the details.

        hi
        1. +4
          21 March 2024 08: 32
          hi
          Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
          Did you write this just for the sake of writing?

          I? Well, aren't you oversimplifying things? Children flock there precisely because MMA is at the zenith of media fame, just like karate was once upon a time...
          Ask the wrestlers about “quickly” and “simplely”. They master this “quickly and easily” from the age of 4 on the mat... And without wrestling there is nothing to do in MMA, Gracie and Nurmagomedov proved this to everyone a long time ago.
          1. +5
            21 March 2024 08: 35
            I didn’t argue with you about mastering technology, and in general I didn’t write a word about it: why should I ask anyone?
            Children flock there precisely because MMA is at the zenith of media fame, just like karate was once upon a time...

            I absolutely agree.
            But the article is about something else!!!!
            I repeat: in capitalism, sport is business!!! Only business and above all business, everything else is an adjective. hi
            1. +2
              21 March 2024 08: 52
              Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
              But the article is about something else!

              Yes, I didn’t really understand what the article was about, “horses and people mixed together”... “bad MMA”, “migrants in gyms”, trash talk, etc...
              Is there no purity in sports? And when was she? At the dawn of the Olympic movement in Greece? So there, famous athletes quite often used their fame for personal purposes. IN THE USSR? So now it is not the USSR, but a completely different ideology that rules the roost.
              Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
              I repeat: under capitalism, sport is business!!

              Under capitalism, everything is business...
              hi
              1. +2
                21 March 2024 08: 56
                Is there no purity in sports? And when was she?

                I agree with you.

                Best regards, hi
                1. 0
                  21 March 2024 19: 37
                  Mma is popular where cave customs have not yet disappeared, the tone is set by Brazilian favelas, Latinos, African Americans and our Caucasians and rarely Europeans, but the battles are watched by the wealthy white contingent who invented this spectacle. Human nature cannot be changed.
        2. +1
          21 March 2024 11: 17
          Did you write this just for the sake of writing?
          That’s not the point, and the article is not about step-by-step mastery of martial arts, but why is that?
          But in fact, I see that we have MMA on rent, children and teenagers go there, and not in karate. So, as it seems to them, and not to me, it’s faster: oops, hit the bag and it’s already... done.
          In the 70-90s, karate was the most “fashionable”, now there are no people at all: no one wants to grind out katas from the age of 5, like my son. Immediately into a fight at 14, I learned to “spin” and...okay...or maybe not) just kidding
          I'm talking about the essence of the problem, not the details.

          Eduard, no one is stopping karatekas from competing in MMA. But they don’t have much chance there, as it turned out.
          In his youth, he himself tried to make keratinized claws out of his hands until he ended up in the ring. I had to forget and relearn.
          With all due respect, if anything, but would you send your son to a normal boxing section.
          1. +5
            21 March 2024 12: 09
            With all due respect, if anything, but would you send your son to a normal boxing section.

            Thanks a lot! Boxes a little too. He is a multi-sport athlete)))) But karate and swimming are still in first place))) good
            Best regards,
            hi
        3. 0
          28 March 2024 09: 17
          Edward, karate, no matter how regrettable it may be, in fact, no one is really interested in it anymore, the practical effect, like that of taekwondo, is near-zero, beautiful - yes; in this regard, MMA is certainly more useful in the event of a brawl. Again, a lot depends on the culture of the practitioner of a particular sport. I myself practiced many combat sports for varying lengths of time, visited, among other things, MMA gyms, there was a decent contingent, foreigners there were, surprisingly, in the minority, and after training, the conversations in the locker rooms were not about who kicked whom and how much I've eaten it up, but it's quite normal cultural communication.
    2. 0
      21 March 2024 16: 46
      Everyone wants an iPhone
      No need to speak for everyone. I don't need an iPhone for nothing. How long does the battery last in it? A year, two?.. I still use Nokia 112, bought in 2011, with the original battery, which requires charging 1-2 times a week. And why do I need an iPhone, please explain?
      1. +3
        21 March 2024 16: 57
        No need to speak for everyone.

        I wasn’t talking about “grandfathers,” but about those who want to get into the “social elevator.”
        hi
        1. 0
          21 March 2024 17: 14
          The social elevator is not about external attributes. hi
          1. 0
            22 March 2024 09: 16
            Quote: Grandfather is an amateur
            The social elevator is not about external attributes. hi

            И external too - that’s why the regional committee’s Volgas were always black.
            I hope you will agree that the comfort of the Volga did not depend at all on the color?
            1. 0
              22 March 2024 17: 35
              I agree. But not only the regional committee Volgas were black. And I'm not talking about district committees, the KGB, or ministries. I knew a couple of people who had black Volgas for private use. And the father of my school friend drove a Zhiguli in the 80s, absolutely police, canary yellow, only without the blue stripe and flashing lights.
  9. +8
    21 March 2024 06: 21
    When the percentage of Abu exceeds the percentage of locals, they will already have a ready-made army, an invasion that will suppress and subjugate our requests, and everyone will humbly accept it! We can be indignant everywhere for a long time and a lot, but somehow it doesn’t get better
  10. +6
    21 March 2024 06: 40
    If a person is engaged in martial arts and has used his skills in everyday life, in everyday life, this should be regarded by law as the use of bladed weapons, and let the “fighter” prove in court that there was unprovoked aggression against him, which could not be restrained by other means. It's so simple.
    1. +2
      21 March 2024 07: 06
      let the “fighter” prove in court that there was unprovoked aggression against him

      According to centuries-old practice and the Constitution of our country, it is the prosecutor who is obliged to prove “what he proves,” and for any accused there is a presumption of innocence.
      And so you can have all the MMA + judo fighters, etc. immediately at the camp - a threat, and behind them all those who have a kitchen knife.
      hi
      1. +2
        21 March 2024 07: 28
        If a person had a knife in his pocket and used it, he must explain why he used it. I agree that the word “prove” is legally incorrectly used.
        1. +4
          21 March 2024 07: 37
          he must explain why he used it.

          There is no point in arguing here.
          I agree with you. hi
  11. +4
    21 March 2024 06: 41
    The main thing here is to fight not against windmills, but not directly against the causes of such phenomena as migration and lawlessness. I’m not a fan of MMA, but it’s not fights that fill our country with migrants and make their lives free from the culture and laws of the Russian Federation, but something else, and unfortunately it’s difficult to do anything about it...
    1. -2
      21 March 2024 10: 40
      Well, from March 15 to 17, we “struggled” with the reasons, now the beds will be rearranged and we will begin to live...
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    2. +2
      21 March 2024 09: 25
      It turns out interesting: few people voted for him, but the result of the elections was almost 90% for him.
      1. 0
        21 March 2024 18: 23
        Almost all of my relatives, most of my friends and colleagues went to the polls and voted for Putin.
        1. 0
          21 March 2024 18: 24
          Because there is no one else to support? Or do you like everything that is happening in the country?
          1. 0
            21 March 2024 18: 37
            Many people really like the course being taught, especially in the field of foreign policy and in terms of conducting SVO. Do you really think that everyone actually dreams of building socialism or communism? For many, just a little more social justice is enough. Some people really think the other candidates are downright weak. Although a couple of my friends voted for Kharitonov. Some people believe that these were elections for the Supreme Commander, who must successfully complete the SVO, under whose leadership Ukraine will be neutralized if possible, so they voted for Putin. Different people have different motivations. Some of my friends voted for Putin because, purely psychologically, they wanted to be part of the majority of Russian society. I have the impression that many (I myself am one of them) see the President primarily as the head of foreign policy and the armed forces, and associate the task of solving socio-economic problems with the government and the State Duma. I personally like Prime Minister Mishustin as a politician and organizer.
            1. +1
              22 March 2024 01: 54
              many (I myself am one of them) see the President primarily as the head of foreign policy and the armed forces,


              These are precisely the most disastrous areas of government activity; Russia is surrounded by enemies and their number has only increased over 20 years; even Russia’s closest neighbors have become enemies.

              The army rearmament programs were completely failed, and Serdyukov’s reform is a crime against the Russian army.
              1. 0
                22 March 2024 09: 35
                Quote: assault
                Russia is surrounded by enemies and their number has only increased over 20 years; even Russia’s closest neighbors have become enemies.

                And before that they were just friends...
                As a conscript in 1988, my Ternopil colleagues told me that “Ridna Nenka feeds all the Russians!!” - which means that this is what their parents told them in the 1970s and 80s.
                Like Poland were friends...
                The only country - indeed missed from our sphere of influence over the past 25 years is Finland. Here, yes, we pooped without options....
                All the rest are freeloaders, nothing more. The Czechs, for example, in the 1970s demanded the supply of oil and iron ore for a 10-year period FREE OF CHARGE and threatened that otherwise they would not be able to supply anything at all to the USSR.
                1. 0
                  22 March 2024 17: 40
                  The main failure of Russian foreign policy is Bandera’s Ukraine!
                  What kind of “ra.... Mi” do you need to be in order to pump $10 billion into the Ukrainian economy in 300 years through subsidies for oil and gas and lose to the United States, which spent only $5 billion and made Ukraine into Anti-Russia....
          2. 0
            21 March 2024 18: 40
            By the way, I did not vote for Putin in 2000 and 2004, nor did I vote for Medvedev in 2008. But in 2012, 2018 and this year, I consciously voted for Putin.
          3. 0
            21 March 2024 18: 46
            I personally voted for Putin three times, although in the elections to the Duma and the regional council I more often voted for candidates from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation. Personally, I would be most satisfied with the option of a supra-party President Putin, dealing primarily with foreign and defense policy, coordinating the interests of the federation and its subjects, and a government based on a compromise between United Russia and the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, possibly with the participation of the Fair Russians, pursuing socio-economic policies, naturally, under control and arbitration by the President.
    3. 0
      21 March 2024 13: 28
      Apart from this phrase, are you and people like you capable of anything constructive regarding the procedure for the elections? Who did you vote for? Can you justify your choice? Or did they allegedly absolve themselves of responsibility by voting not for V.V., or by not going to vote at all?
      Our liberals like to compare the country with a galley, but here this comparison will be appropriate: 87% row in one direction, while people like you have either abandoned their oars or are rowing in the opposite direction. Who you are? traitors? a burden? I do not support V.V. even 50%, but I consider voting for the same Davankov/Slutsky or the old pseudo-communist the height of idiocy.
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  14. +6
    21 March 2024 07: 02
    We ourselves chose over the weekend to continue this situation - why be sad now? "The decree of Mr. PeZhe is for all the boys to put on muzzles and rejoice..." (c)
  15. +13
    21 March 2024 07: 07
    Something else surprises me. They constantly want to instill in us all kinds of nonsense. For example, ten years ago they said that all Russians are lazy and drunkards, so the country needs migrants. Surprisingly, the Russians themselves believed in this. By the way, now that there are a lot of migrants, they also drink, although they prefer weed.
    Now about the second suggestion. Supposedly multinational and multi-cafessional. Let's take one hundred people equal to one hundred percent. 80 people are Russians, then four Kazan Tatars, two Chechens, one Bashkir, one Chuvash, one Avar. True, these statistics do not yet include constantly imported Central Asians. Here, with statistics, everything is about Russians in three letters, migrants in our place...
    1. 0
      23 March 2024 17: 36
      Quote: Gardamir
      Let's take one hundred people equal to one hundred percent. 80 people are Russians, then four Kazan Tatars, two Chechens, one Bashkir, one Chuvash, one Avar.

      You - apparently accidentally- For example, they forgot the Ukrainians, Belarusians, Dagestanis, Kazakhs, Mordovians. And suddenly you no longer have room for migrants in your interest. At all....
      And I didn’t take any Buryats, Karelians and others
      1. 0
        23 March 2024 19: 07
        I haven't forgotten anyone. It’s just that, in percentage terms, some peoples are vanishingly invisible.
        1. 0
          23 March 2024 23: 31
          Quote: Gardamir
          I haven't forgotten anyone. Just in percentage terms, some peoples vanishingly invisible.

          "According to the results of the 2021 population census in ten largest nations besides Russians entered in descending order: Tatars, Chechens, Bashkirs, Chuvashs, Avars, Armenians, Ukrainians, Dargins and Kazakhs"
          But there are another 16 million in the census NOT indicated their nationality at all
  16. +7
    21 March 2024 07: 08
    Until a relative of a deputy or a high-ranking official is taken to intensive care after communicating with migrants, the authorities will not pay attention to this problem.
    1. 0
      21 March 2024 16: 43
      I very much doubt that this will change anything. I remembered how 9 years ago, LDPR deputy Khudyakov received a slap in the face from two Dagestanis at a gas station. There was a story on TV, an investigation. The villains were even detained! One of them, in the past, was even an assistant to a deputy.
      As a result, it happened in 13, now it’s 24. And I’m 100% sure that there was nothing wrong with these types.
      Detained, shown on TV and released request
  17. -1
    21 March 2024 07: 17
    These garbage dumps have developed into darkness. MMA, LGBT, various shows like “Masks”, humorous,... This is all corrupting youth, and all accompanied by chatter about adherence to traditional values.
    Another point, the thesis from above about “our strength in multinationality” requires separate and careful consideration.
  18. -2
    21 March 2024 07: 47
    Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
    And little things - for example, the railway in Russia from stupid Amers.


    Seriously?
    It reads:
    The first railway in the Russian Empire was built in 1837 along the route “St. Petersburg - Tsarskoe Selo” (12 years later than the first railway in the world, which appeared in Great Britain in 1825). The construction was financed by the millionaire, grandson of Catherine II and Grigory Orlov, A.A. Bobrinsky, and it was led by the Austrian engineer F.A. Gerstner. The first long road in the empire was the Warsaw-Vienna road. In the 1840s, the much longer Nikolaev Railway was built, connecting the two largest cities of the empire - St. Petersburg and Moscow.


    And a little more:
    The United States of America was founded in 1776
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  19. +1
    21 March 2024 08: 09
    Everyone who loves sports should be taken to SVO. To the advanced units. Even more so, find a law to send people back to their own country, so that they don’t go to Russia.
  20. +5
    21 March 2024 08: 14
    All the illegals should be taken to prison, with the help of their way to their own, if they do not want to fight.
  21. +12
    21 March 2024 08: 14
    By the way, I have been noticing this for a long time. Visiting children of migrants go to martial arts sections, when there are three to five of them there, pressure begins on their Russian peers. If they receive a rebuff, then immediately complain. But then there is still the ousting of Russians from sections, pressure on Russian guys. It’s as if they were given a task by someone: to deprive Russians of martial arts. The author writes that Central Asians and Caucasians are more prone to this. Nonsense! And Poddubny, Zass, Karelin, Yarygin - are they from the Caucasus or Central Asia? This is the same myth as the fact that Jews are smarter than others. It’s just that the country has long been overdue for cleanup and removal of foreign elements. And then all the news feeds are clogged: in St. Petersburg, three young Uzbek men, 58 years old, were beaten to death, and another was severely beaten. And the police have already published a message that it was he himself who died from a heart condition. St. Petersburg, Chelyabinsk and the Moscow region (especially Kotelniki) are some kind of reserves for “valuable specialists.”
    1. -1
      21 March 2024 11: 57
      Quote: fiberboard
      And then all the news feeds are clogged: in St. Petersburg, three young Uzbek men, 58 years old, were beaten to death, and another was severely beaten.

      What’s also surprising is that these beatings were filmed from a safe distance, as if from a surveillance camera, but actually hand-held. It turns out that these seemingly unmotivated attacks - ordered, and those posting videos of these attacks on the network - have direct attitude towards their customer. Why aren't they talking about this online? Why aren’t these “enlighteners” brought to light? M.b. because they will turn out to be quite Slavic in appearance? I wonder whose citizenship they have?
      But no, no one is interested in this. It's a pity..
    2. 0
      22 March 2024 07: 48
      You're lying) let's conduct an experiment in real life, meet and check the section you're talking about?) I'm sure you'll merge
  22. -11
    21 March 2024 08: 26
    The article is simply an anti-migrant article, sports has nothing to do with it, MMA has nothing to do with it either.

    Professional sport - any and in any country - is a profession, that is, a way to make money, and it is a business. People watch and pay money; if they didn’t watch and pay, this sport wouldn’t exist.

    Professional sport has nothing to do with strengthening the body and spirit - here the Author is right. This is a banal truth.

    The article itself and the conclusion about strengthening anti-migrant legislation are not logically connected. Usual propaganda.
  23. +12
    21 March 2024 08: 39
    Please note that there is only one director, both in the EU and in Russia. Africa is imported to the EU, and Central Asia to Russia. Both there and there the people are 90% against migrants. Target. Well, in the EU it is clear that as soon as some government refuses to obey the collective West, riots begin and the government is overthrown. It turns out the same in Russia. Only the West also has a goal to destroy the Slavs as a nation.
    I want you to pay attention to this example. In Kazakhstan, Russia is building 30 projects worth $30 billion, although Putin promised 25 million jobs in Russia. In Kazakhstan the population is 17 million people, in Russia 146!! So why aren’t migrants brought to Kazakhstan? Who will work there at these constructed enterprises?
    Putin needs migrants to protect his power, and the West to reduce the number of Slavs!
    1. +3
      21 March 2024 09: 28
      This “director” is in the selfish interests of “respected” people. Both in Europe and here. Just business, nothing personal.
  24. +8
    21 March 2024 08: 45
    The problem is that our government is weak! Well, they don’t want to offend the head of another republic by punishing a migrant, they think that they will be allies and will support in everything. And therefore they ignore the pleas of Russians about such a problem with migrants, they are close friends with such diasporas and, importantly, receive profits from this in the form of bribes. There is no Russian diaspora anywhere in the world, but we have a lot of them in our country. and it is the diaspora organized crime group that decides the affairs of migrants, not the consulates. Is this normal? No!
    1. +9
      21 March 2024 09: 05
      "The problem is that our government is weak!"
      Do not confuse your weakness with betrayal of national interests!
    2. +6
      21 March 2024 09: 18
      Quote from: miry_mir
      The problem is that our government is weak!

      Thank you, I'm laughing!!!
      Our government has never been stronger and more structured. Vertical wow!!! Even under Stalin there were more different opinions and approaches, which is why purges periodically arose. Now, there is mutual responsibility, fed with dough, and there is incriminating evidence for everyone. So the power is very strong. Another thing is that she ABSOLUTELY does not care about the people and their needs, even BASIC ones, such as safety and living space.
      1. -2
        21 March 2024 12: 51
        "So the government is very strong. Another thing is that it ABSOLUTELY doesn’t give a damn about the people and their needs, even BASIC ones, such as safety and living space."

        There is no reason for the authorities to act differently.
    3. +6
      21 March 2024 09: 18
      Our government is not weak, but immensely greedy. From the beginning of the vertical to the very top. They don't want to work there, but to earn money.
      1. +5
        21 March 2024 09: 58
        not to work and not to earn money, but to “raise money”, “get money”, etc. This does not fit in with the word “work”.
        1. 0
          22 March 2024 08: 00
          Quote: Million
          not to work and not to earn money, but to “raise money”, “get money”, etc. This does not fit in with the word “work”.


          If everyone had this choice, how many would give up freebies? :) They have the opportunity, they take advantage of it. This is how the system works.
      2. 0
        22 March 2024 07: 58
        “Our government is not weak, but immensely greedy. From the beginning of the vertical to the very top. They don’t want to work there, but to earn money.”

        In this they are no different from ordinary people. We basically go to work to earn money. They have no reason to act differently, they are human.
  25. +1
    21 March 2024 08: 57
    Governor - OUT!
  26. -7
    21 March 2024 09: 08
    I do not absolve the state with its conniving policy in this matter of responsibility, but the problem can be looked at from a different angle. Why are we scolding visitors from traditionalist countries here? Because they are stronger, they have more children and they stand up for each other more? And what's wrong with that? Maybe we just need to somehow become stronger and more for each other? And it turns out that it’s not that we don’t know our neighbors, but we hardly even communicate with our relatives, not just with the seventh water on jelly, but even with our cousins. And then it turns out that a bunch of migrant children can make a whole Russian school a nightmare, because their brother will marry his brother, but we have a question.
    1. +4
      21 March 2024 13: 29
      "They have brother for brother, but we have a question..."
      If our brother marries his brother, you will get a Russian article! If Russian organizations are organized according to the diaspora type, the organizers will receive a Russian article. And so it is everywhere and in everything. Try to go to an unauthorized procession - you will receive at least an administrative charge, and the migrants will march by shouting Alah Akbar and the authorities will not notice anything. When a Russian is killed, then the authorities will deign to intercede, but in a different situation you will receive a Russian article. You, sir, apparently with your leader, received their education in the same gateway.
      1. -3
        22 March 2024 07: 51
        An eternal moan that has nothing to do with reality. An attempt to justify one's lack of will
    2. +5
      21 March 2024 13: 31
      Quote: Herr Stirlitz
      Why are we scolding visitors from traditionalist countries here? Because they are stronger, they have more children and they stand up for each other more? And what's wrong with that?

      Excuse me, but WHAT are they stronger at? In a herd reflex? Are they stronger in crime? If you have a conflict with someone, what will you do? 1 on 1, or send it south and leave, that’s all. These guys don’t go 1 on 1, either with weapons, or they will bring the crowd and kick them to death. Is this POWER in your opinion? It's like comparing a wild monkey with strength.
      Quote: Herr Stirlitz
      Maybe we just need to somehow become stronger and more for each other?

      The locals received and still receive for this within a reasonable period of time. For this reason, the diasporas of these savages are inviolable for organs.
      Quote: Herr Stirlitz
      And then it turns out that a bunch of migrant children can make a whole Russian school a nightmare, because their brother will marry his brother, but we have a question.

      Again you are talking nonsense. There were cases when our teenagers got together and fought back against the black lawlessness, and immediately cases were opened against OUR for inciting interethnic violence. And these newcomers, yes, there’s a 15-year-old who comes to school and beats up 10-year-olds if the youngest one couldn’t cope with his peer. Do you also suggest that we raise our children this way? Or should we go to school ourselves and twist our young black ears? So again, you will immediately get caught in a criminal case.
      So, before you talk outright Russophobic nonsense, it would be better to think first.
  27. +5
    21 March 2024 09: 13
    87% in favor. What can we even talk about here? Yes, here on VO they write: who besides Meputin? Crossing horses... and other nonsense. 87% are in favor - this is an indulgence for the authorities to take ANY action. They didn’t care who, how and whom they beat and rob in the gateways. This is all fine with you. Well, eat your cactus, don’t get wet.
    1. +2
      21 March 2024 13: 34
      "87% in favor."
      And if Panfilova says 146%, will you believe it too?
      "Yes, here on VO they write:.."
      Somehow I don’t even see 20% for Putin here.
      1. +1
        21 March 2024 13: 48
        Quote: steel maker
        And if Panfilova says 146%, will you believe it too?
        "Yes, here on VO they write:.."
        Somehow I don’t even see 20% for Putin here.

        Depending on what I or you believe or don’t believe, it’s neither warm nor cold up there. Well, they drew 87%, but no one even said anything against it. He didn't even blink an eye.
        By the way, in my department only one out of seven employees is an ardent pro-Putinist. Even he was blown away by such numbers.))) Two more pence according to the principle - and whoever except him, they also voted for him. There are already 40% there.
        1. +3
          21 March 2024 13: 53
          "Nobody even said anything against it"
          Well, if he didn’t make a sound, it’s a minus for Putin. This is our “democracy,” Strelkov will confirm. And secondly, there is no need to write that everyone is happy with everything. Let everyone be responsible for themselves.
  28. +6
    21 March 2024 09: 24
    I completely agree with the author!
    And it also seems to me that these problems are growing from the United States with the full connivance of the Russian authorities.
    During the Soviet era, when I served in the army, our unit of 46 people included soldiers of 10 nationalities.
    Russians (this included Belarusians and Ukrainians) were a minority.
    But there were no prayers, no one used the phrase Allah Akbar, there were no beards.
    I won’t say that everything was smooth between us, but everyone understood that if something happened we would find ourselves in the same trench and would cover each other.
    Alas, today there is almost no such thing. I’m not talking about the SVO, there are different relations there, it seems to me
  29. +9
    21 March 2024 09: 26
    At the end of the 80s, the Russians were expelled from their “proud and independent republics” - they were in the way. Now we’ve come here to set our own rules. Let them stay at home - be proud of their independence, and let us do something ourselves. Without them.
    1. 0
      21 March 2024 13: 32
      Quote: teron
      and we ourselves somehow. Without them.

      Your words would be in the ears of the king...
  30. +10
    21 March 2024 09: 26
    In general, you need to understand that the problem is not with MMA and not with the migrants themselves, but with those who allow what we see now to be done.
  31. +4
    21 March 2024 09: 31
    As far as I remember, karate was banned in the Union. Probably not in vain. Then they allowed it. Well, all these karatekas, boxers, wrestlers (okay, maybe not all of them) fit perfectly into the murky “movement” of the 90s.
    1. +3
      21 March 2024 10: 25
      Quote: teron
      As far as I remember, karate was banned in the Union. Probably not in vain. Then they allowed it. Well, all these karatekas, boxers, wrestlers (okay, maybe not all of them) fit perfectly into the murky “movement” of the 90s.

      and also, for example, former military personnel joined there - should they be banned too? you understand, a knife in itself is a knife, it becomes a murder weapon when it is controlled... that’s why karate, boxing, etc. themselves are just sports.. ban them - thugs won’t disappear, they’ll just start using more bats and knives.. and ordinary people who just practiced, even in theory, will have nothing to defend themselves with, unless everyone goes running.. not in MMA The problem is with the people...
      1. +1
        21 March 2024 12: 26
        You can’t ban the military, you’re right. There should be employment opportunities for former military personnel, but no one thought about it back then. However, these phenomena are slightly different - athletes and discharged military personnel, abandoned to the mercy of fate. It’s just that all these sports clubs are ready-made groups.
  32. +1
    21 March 2024 09: 42
    In Russia, MMA should not be a garbage dump, but a sport, with appropriate admission rules and accountable to the federal sports department... That is, MMA should be part of the system. Let the promotions be autonomous, but at the same time be included in the register and have permission. Now this is a garbage dump, where money and interests of many parties are seething. We can separately mention pop MMA, where in general the maximum number of adherents are from Central Asian countries. I remember F. Emelianenko said everything about MMA “pop”. A storm of indignation then fell upon him. Anyone who is interested can hear his opinion on the well-known video hosting site.
    1. +1
      21 March 2024 10: 41
      Quote: _simply
      In Russia, MMA should not be a garbage dump, but a sport, with appropriate admission rules and accountable to the federal sports department...

      Have you forgotten that we have had capitalism for 30 years? what you described is almost exactly a hello to the destruction of commercial sports in general (after all, the rest that are not covered - boxing, karate, etc. commercial sections will also begin to be “regulated” immediately, and 100% will get to gyms), and since commerce really doesn’t like sensitive leadership in our country, from those who have led only officials all their lives... they are not in the subject of business, they are in the subject of papers and reports... then it will simply “bend”, and in return the state is ready to provide government sections and halls? therefore, either capitalism and supervision, or communism and subordination to the “headquarters”... either on or off... in the middle - there is no working situation...
  33. +8
    21 March 2024 10: 08
    MMA is just business, and the Islamization of Russia is a betrayal.
  34. +6
    21 March 2024 10: 29
    Voice in the wilderness. The masturbation of the country is on the march, let's catch up and overtake Europe. Do you want to deprive “galley slaves” and “effective managers” of pleasant bonuses from diasporas? Right now! There’s so much talk about this, but it’s all to no avail. People make money.
  35. +4
    21 March 2024 10: 29
    I repeat, but where to go? After 15-17 this year, it became pointless to write such articles; your screams are more likely to be heard in the desert. 87,28% are satisfied with everything, and the remaining remaining percentages cannot do anything about it and the quantity of these articles will not turn into quality - pounding water from a mortar. Only the same organized “heap” with brute force can reverse this situation, but for the second heap there are “Cardinal’s Guards” specially trained for this in the amount of 40 thousand and Article 282 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.
    1. +2
      21 March 2024 13: 37
      Quote from AdAstra
      Only the same organized “heap” with brute force can reverse this situation, but for the second heap there are “Cardinal’s Guards” specially trained for this in the amount of 40 thousand and Article 282 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.

      The whole problem is that if it flares up like after Yegor Sviridov, or even worse, then no guards will help. And how well they did with their owners in June 2023 is proof of this.
      1. -1
        21 March 2024 14: 06
        I don't know, it passed by. But 40 thousand I’m talking about one specific emirate, these extraterritorially and are not afraid to shoot.hi
  36. +4
    21 March 2024 10: 38
    Is the author suggesting a ban? And what in return? I once wrote in a commentary about the rural Olympic games that were held in our village, running with milking machines and milking a cow at speed, mowing with a scythe, lapta again.. Endless and native.. One thing, the games are not commercial, no income what are the costs alone, and the order came down from the top to carry out. We do not live under the socialism cursed by many here, but under capitalism, where everything is for sale, including sports. Our boys who play football could not be taken to the tournament, expenses required, but no sponsors were found... Well, they didn’t find them, “sponsors” didn’t provide them.
  37. +4
    21 March 2024 10: 45
    The Koran, it should be noted, is a very worthy human creation

    Without the obligatory curtseys, it is no longer visible. I don’t judge - I wouldn’t want to end up as a pear in the Grozny pre-trial detention center either. They also laugh at the Euro and Amero Milti-Kulti Liberda.
    Of all the Abrahamic religions, Islam, its philosophy and most importantly its practice, is the least sympathetic. Orthodox Jews, judging by their behavior in the occupied territories, could have done at least as well, but God did not give the eager goat horns - there are few of them. Christians have a huge head start here - even if the descriptions of the adventures of the ancient tribes of the Levant in the Old Testament cause nothing but disgust, the New Testament significantly softens the intensity of savagery. Plus, most formal “Christians” apparently do not open the Holy Scriptures at all. That’s why such herbivores can get to civilization better than the guys from the Middle East.
    1. +1
      21 March 2024 11: 40
      Well - “If you do not recognize Islam as a religion of peace, then we will start killing hostages” (c) laughing It's scary, though.
  38. +4
    21 March 2024 10: 47
    If someone does this, then someone needs it.
    Who needs? The elite, of course.
    For example, in Chechnya, fighting takes place from childhood, they wrote.
    For what? the answer is clear. Raise militants. For what ? form shock squads for the national elite.
    In Grozny, Moscow, or Voronezh, local boyars will have/maintain squads of pumped-up militants.
    Why is also clear. Protect your interests and rent. PMCs, organized crime groups, private security companies, clubs, etc. - will be formalized, of course

    And with the cry “Allahu Akbar” - that’s how there were videos about 10 years ago, that’s how Chechen special forces acted.
    The authorities were and are happy with everything. 87%. what's worrying?
  39. +7
    21 March 2024 11: 01
    We want to live in a decent country, right?

    The only catch is that our country doesn’t really want to be a decent place. Look at the media - look at these “talk show type” hosts, their “experts” and the communication style they instill from a mixture of a hellish shalman, a bullpen and a local fair of the 19th century. Look at the overall intellectual and aesthetic tone of our TV content. This is what is being imposed on the population, this is the level of communication, discussion and behavior, as in Soloviev Life. All these MMA and underground fights coexist quite organically in such an environment, along with fictitious politicians and leavened jingoism.
    So you can’t just take something completely unhealthy from this accumulation and expect it to get better. We need a consistent policy to improve the climate and mentality - but OF COURSE no one will sweat about this, because we think that everything is normal.

    As for sports - IMHO professional. sport should be consigned to the dustbin of history. Records have been set for a long time - further this is a mockery of the human body and foreign policy games. Semi-professional sports and sports for health - please! This must be supported and encouraged. And multimillion-dollar ball chasers or scufflers are archaic. It’s better to use this money for development; we don’t know how many things need to be developed and how many investments are needed. And by the way, we need healthy people in other areas that create or produce something. We don't have a large population, but the scope of what needs to be done in the country is enormous. After all, all this sanctions bullshit is not for a year or ten.
    1. +3
      21 March 2024 12: 04
      Sport is now a show! And show is money. No one will send anything to the dustbin of history. Alas, capitalism decides.
      1. 0
        21 March 2024 12: 55
        Quote: Million
        Sport is now a show! And show is money. No one will send anything to the dustbin of history. Alas, capitalism decides.

        I absolutely agree with you, the same football, NHL, boxing - first of all a SHOW, and then a sport... that’s why it should be perceived as such... with a stretch, amateur competitions of all levels can also be considered a sport.. and the rest is like How is wrestling considered a sport?
  40. +4
    21 March 2024 11: 04
    The article turned out like this because the officials are already annoying everyone with their corruption. Until corrupt officials are shot like in China, there will be no sense in the country.
    1. -4
      21 March 2024 11: 23
      Quote: nesoglasen
      Until corrupt officials are shot like in China, there will be no sense in the country.

      In China, the population is one and a half billion, respectively, there are millions of officials, hundreds of thousands of corrupt officials, thousands are shot, so what? Have you stopped stealing? Yes, it doesn’t seem like they steal just the same. Because everyone considers themselves smarter than the previous deceased. This one was not very smart, but I’m wow... laughing
      1. +3
        21 March 2024 12: 52
        No not like this. Fear for one's own skin greatly inhibits such organisms. And I want and inject. For every ten people there is one crazy person. That's why China is going uphill because those watching are driving hard. It comes to everyone, both hard workers and bureaucrats.
  41. +4
    21 March 2024 11: 04
    Does Roman want to live in a decent country? - does what has been happening over the last 2 years somehow fit into this??? If it fits, go to the front and then to some kind of Denmark and compare. If you do any action, then certain consequences follow, and the beginning of the largest military conflict in Europe from WW2 will in any case affect culture and sports and the population, either you don’t need to beat the tambourines or you shouldn’t be surprised at the bitterness of society.
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  43. +4
    21 March 2024 11: 18
    One migrant is an organism quieter than water and lower than the grass, he even pretends to communicate in some way. But once you gather a flock of five and beyond - that’s it, forget about intelligence, pure instincts.(from)
    It was, is and will always be. As the poet said: “You cannot harness a horse and a trembling doe to one cart...”
    I served as a conscript in the SA in 1983-85. The national composition of the unit is the RSFSR (Volga region - Tataria, Bashkiria, Kuibyshev, Penza, Saratov, Orenburg) 50%, Central Asia (Uzbekistan, Tajikistan) 50%. There will be two Russians (everyone from the RSFSR was considered Russian) and one Central Asian, no one will touch him, no one will bother him, he will clean your boots himself, make your bed, but there will be two Asians and one Russian - they will bully you, oppress you, and again Let me note that the Russians don’t give a damn about the Asian, he will serve on his own, but the Asians will bend the Russian, show their power, because there are more of them. Those who served in the Western Military District will confirm this life observation.
    1. -2
      21 March 2024 19: 53
      The discussion of the topic of MMA garbage smoothly moved on to a discussion of the problem of migrants.

      There are no such fighters among migrants, and representatives from other republics fight for Russia either under a contract, or as a Russian.

      But, surprisingly, most of these fighters are produced in the Caucasus, i.e. in Russia itself.
      But not a word about it.

      and if there are two Asians and one Russian, they will spoil you and oppress you

      Do you have serious arguments or facts? It’s just that your words do not incite ethnic hatred and enmity. Previously, in Soviet times, this was what they said about Caucasians. And where did you serve, if it’s not a secret? I served in the early 70s and never saw anything like this. For three years.
  44. 0
    21 March 2024 11: 43
    Quote: Gardamir
    Here, with statistics, everything is about Russians in three letters, migrants in our place...

    Three letters - do you mean what I thought, or something else? :)
    1. +1
      28 March 2024 10: 07
      But no matter what you think, the essence doesn’t change much.
  45. +9
    21 March 2024 11: 45
    The whole problem is the lack of state migration policy!
    It is precisely this absence that makes the whole policy “let’s let more mastubeks into the country, otherwise the Russians don’t want to work.”
    It is necessary that, as in Saudi Arabia, there should be workers’ settlements for migrants, they should go out into the city only on official duty, and for the slightest offense the employer will pay a huge fine!
    There should be no children or wives, they are waiting at home in the village, they have worked under the contract and go home back to the village!
    No hijabs or prayers in public places; for violation, again, the responsible employer pays a huge fine!
    Then the problem with MMA will gradually begin to lose relevance!
    And also prohibit Russian athletes from participating in any international competitions under the white flag!
    It’s the same as in 45, instead of a red flag, Yegorov and Kontaria hung a white flag over the Reichstag!!!
    But all this is not under the current leadership of the country, as long as the same people who exchanged the godfather for the leaders of Azov sit in the Kremlin, nothing good will happen!
    Putin, where is Kherson???
    1. +5
      21 March 2024 13: 45
      Quote: Andrey the Magnificent
      The whole problem is the lack of state migration policy!
      It is precisely this absence that makes the whole policy “let’s let more mastubeks into the country, otherwise the Russians don’t want to work.”

      So they are not brought here to work anymore. But to replace us, they are brought here.
  46. +5
    21 March 2024 12: 14
    That's right, there will be no changes for the better. This entire industry belongs not to diasporas, but to officials, and brings them a lot of money. So you can publish at least thousands more articles.
  47. +5
    21 March 2024 12: 23
    MMA is not a sporting competition, it is a spectacle for complete moral monsters. It’s disgusting to watch how healthy young men mutilate each other for the amusement of snickering freaks. If the authorities encourage this, then they....., well, you understood everything correctly. Regarding the import of “valuable MMA specialists” from southern countries by Mr. Khusnulin M.Sh. and K. Performing belly dancing in front of diasporas, some governors and security officials who joined them. The conclusion suggests itself. Betrayal, betrayal and degradation of the power vertical.
  48. +3
    21 March 2024 12: 34
    Why, why, too many whys, there is only one answer - there are too many cowards and corrupt shkurs in the leadership at different levels.
  49. +4
    21 March 2024 12: 35
    ,,,back in the summer, the head of the NAC and a member of the Human Rights Council Kabanov said:
    In Russia, MMA clubs can train the so-called “infantry” to destabilize the situation in the country or seize power from among migrants from Central Asia or Transcaucasia.

    Subsequently, with a high degree of probability, such trained aggressive/radical fighters, drawn from migrants and people from Central Asia and the Caucasus, can be used to seize power or destabilize the situation in the country. The main and most dangerous thing is that they unite on the principle of dislike not only for Russians, but also for the entire indigenous population of our country. Law enforcement officers must seriously and firmly fight this “underground” now. Before it's too late"
  50. +4
    21 March 2024 12: 41
    We're not talking about sports here. Roman wants to say that soon, in our own home, they will begin to slaughter and rob us, just as they did when the traders brought down the Union. Moreover, it will come to the new Russian bourgeoisie in exactly the same way. They are digging a hole for the Russian nation with their own hands, the insatiable backyarders. Not all “businessmen” in the Russian Federation are foreigners. Although the latter are the most greedy and the most arrogant.
  51. +4
    21 March 2024 12: 45
    By the way, what do you hear about the re-examination of the case of the murder of a SVO member in Chelyabinsk? The Internet is silent and the deadline has already passed...
  52. +1
    21 March 2024 14: 08
    and who stops the Slavs from chilling in the food court and carrying iron in the gym, kicking a punching bag, practicing at least for themselves, it strengthens the spirit, and if the heart is made of iron, then you won’t need a wooden dagger. Since the 3rd grade, they sent me to Elnis for sambo and still haven’t let me go for now))) though I served five years ((well, why did I have to become a prisoner? but I’m not a Tajik, so they didn’t give me probation and I didn’t kill, I just broke my hooves)) there’s no need to blame the mentality of mynetakusi and other foolishness CITY of the wrong one built and the one who conquered it
  53. +2
    21 March 2024 14: 09
    Unfortunately, I didn’t understand the author’s message: either this sport is wrong, or the people around it are wrong...
    but I support the message to us, citizens, who turn a blind eye to this for a little money...
    Moreover, this category of citizens usually does not even bring the case to preliminary consideration in court: everything falls apart, crumbles into dust!
  54. +2
    21 March 2024 15: 55
    Did they somehow put everything in one pile? Sports, MMA, diaspora, extremism........is there less blood in boxing or wrestling is not a sport. MMA somehow leads people to pray in the wrong place.
    You will divide the material into problems of MMA and interethnic relations, crime of diaspora.
    Something about sports and off we go. Don’t you want to discuss how they get citizenship without knowing the language. Without even intending to integrate, they live in their own world.
    From this material, at least three should emerge: where are the problems of sports, problems of diasporas and their integration, internal state policy
  55. 0
    21 March 2024 16: 02
    MMA is the evolution of this kind of fighting show ka restoing (the old people will remember) The show is always about spectacle and making money, morals since the Renaissance have become more and more radicalized and brutalized from here and MMA has become a more brutal version of classic wrestling from the 90s, that’s all. The cash register will stop bringing in, fashion will change, they will come up with a new show, but while the roulette is spinning, the store is cloudy and people are making money.
  56. +2
    21 March 2024 16: 50
    When ethnic associations of “outsiders” merge with the regional executive, legislative and judicial powers, then they turn into ethnic mafias that begin to fight for market-profitable property and the most highly profitable “businesses”, and turn into economic entities. When these mafias, due to the growth of influence in the regions, begin to “protect” and use, for their goals and objectives, the federal liberal-bourgeois power, then they become near-government mafias, begin to struggle for power at the regional level, and transform into full-fledged political subjects. These processes, over the past 30 years, will lead to the fact that the next step of the mafias, which have become part of the “state,” will be the fragmentation and destruction of the country and the state-forming ethnic group. And ALL Russian authorities or oligarchs who “played” with the mafias, using the energy and strength of bandits, rapists and murderers, will become NOT NEEDED by them. What about our future? And our children, in such “situations”, will have no future (...

    PS The salvation of the Papuans is the work of the Papuans themselves.
  57. +2
    21 March 2024 16: 54
    It’s very symbolic that the club that was raided was called “Colosseum”. Based on the fact that massacre is the fate of the wretched, wretchedness has also been emancipated today. Wretchedness in modern times is not buffoons, physically disabled people, beggars or lepers. One can even envy the health and wealth of the modern wretched people. But those modern “patricians” who watch the fight from the stands happily punch each other in the face after drinking. And modern “gladiators,” even for a lost fight in the ring, also receive money, moreover, being much richer than the “patricians” themselves. And the pinnacle of all this modern squalor is that both the first and second consider themselves to be continuers of the spectacle of the ancient Colosseum. So, can you imagine the whole danger of such fights, when the fighters in the ring are wretched complete Russophiles and “Russian cutters”, then the crowd of thousands of spectators in the stands applauds for their scuffles and gives them money, of course, and for the moral qualities of these fighters applauds and gives them money bring .
    In total, we have a whole legion of Russophobes and “Russ-cutters,” some of which are also MMA fighters.
  58. +4
    21 March 2024 17: 37
    Until the authorities truly recognize Russians as the main people in the country they created, nothing will change. Putin constantly repeats - no ethnic hatred. Beating and killing Russians is not discord, discord is the other way around. They endured and endured with the Ukrainians, nothing like our younger brothers. We waited until they started cutting us down. Now the guys are not correcting their own mistakes. The same thing happens to the villagers - neither nor...
  59. +2
    21 March 2024 18: 06
    I was pleased with the author. It's a pity that he brings up the topic late. It’s okay for us, we were born and raised in a different time... but we are talking about the future of our grandchildren - to whom are we handing over Russia, our descendants or newcomers from the Central Asian riots and Transcaucasian riots??? To participate in MMA “fights,” intelligence is not a necessary condition...All hope is for artificial intelligence? So someone needs to develop it!
  60. +4
    21 March 2024 19: 20
    Does Russia need MMA? As for me, it wouldn’t have existed for a hundred years. What they do in the ring, animals don’t behave like that.
    1. 0
      28 March 2024 10: 12
      The problem is not in the sport itself, but in the specific adherents of this sport. The sport itself is very effective and develops the athlete’s body to the maximum, and those who are given brains also put their thoughts in order. “Boxing is not chess - you have to think here” (p.)
  61. +4
    21 March 2024 19: 23
    We will approach from the point of view from which you can take a close look at what MMA is today. What was sports yesterday - yes, it was. Today
    And today, in fact, gladiatorial fights, for the amusement of the crowd. This is the most Russian MMA completely covered authorities from Ingushetia and Chechnya, Dagestan. They select and nurture gladiators, arrange fights with predictable results. You rarely see anyone there with Russian surnames. Among those who made it a little later at once conflicts arose with representatives of the Caucasus.
    The famous Ingush athlete Adam Yandiev, nicknamed “Beard,” attacked the famous fighter Sergei Kharitonov. MMA legend Kharitonov has a broken nose and an eye injury.
    And this is not in the ring, but in the foyer near the wardrobes. Who is Yandiev?
    32-year-old Adam Yandiev is the son of the famous Ingush businessman Alikhan Yandiev. As a child, the family moved to Moscow, and here Adam and his brother Abukar seriously took up martial arts under the guidance of their father. Yandiev Sr.By the way, he was the founder of a very large organization, M-1 Global, which organizes serious tournaments.
    Why Kharitonov crossed the family’s path remains behind the scenes. Then there are constant clashes between Mineev and Ismailov, who also actively cooperates with the large Russian organization Fight Nights Global. It is known who is in charge: Kamil Gadzhiev, Batu Khasikov, Sangadzhi Tarbaev. There are no questions, the roof is serious with great connections in the Duma, the Federation Council, probably even in the government. As things go, things are spinning there big money, which means they won’t ban it. Theme of the North Caucasus taboo in the Russian Federation and what kind of Islamic brew the local sultans are preparing, no one can guess yet, but it is unlikely to be to the taste of the Russian Federation.
  62. +3
    21 March 2024 19: 35
    “In St. Petersburg, teenagers from Uzbekistan beat a passerby to death for fun - the injured man himself called an ambulance, but did not live to see it arrive” - the author of the headline was mistaken, if you carefully watch the video, it was not for fun, but nothing else, like practicing strikes.
    Which they were almost certainly taught in MMA, where they train fighters. But for what and why...
    https://t.me/odnoykrove/500059
    Well, say thank you to Khusnullin and others like him.
    1. -1
      22 March 2024 14: 16
      Well, say thank you to Khusnullin and others like him.

      And what does Khusnulin have to do with it?
  63. +2
    21 March 2024 19: 57
    To the author: Have you heard about OCT? Short legs and a powerful torso are definitely wrestling, but not athletics. But long legs, especially if the length from the knee and below is longer than from the knee and above, and here you have an athlete. Look at the figures of the same African track and field athletes and the figures of Caucasians. Genetics will not allow some to achieve results in wrestling, and others in running, jumping, etc.
  64. +4
    21 March 2024 20: 35
    Every last word is the truth, which for some incomprehensible coincidence the Kremlin doesn’t want to see. Everything is very strange. A little more and a very difficult situation will arise in the country, the only way out of which will be force. Russians have nowhere to go; they have no other homeland, and those who come in large numbers do not like Russia; they desecrate it and want to tear off a richer piece of it. They will never become Russians who love their new homeland. If the Kremlin doesn’t come to its senses and kick out these valuable specialists, including those who received passports without understanding a word of Russian. The fat is in the fire.
  65. +6
    21 March 2024 20: 35
    The problem is not in MMA, but in the policies of United Russia and Putin. They are preparing the end for us! They don’t want to restore order in the country. The oligarchs need it. The Russians need to organize resistance themselves. Create self-defense units. If the movement of the people begins from the bottom, it will force the authorities to move. Don’t let the problem be hushed up, don’t be sidetracked by the fight against MMA. Don't vote for United Russia! Migrants are our DEATH!!!
  66. +4
    21 March 2024 20: 37
    Author... Just look at how much touring "stand-up performers and stand-up artists" earn for one concert, from whose mouths flows "humor" about sex, debauchery, booze, and so on, and at the same time through the word swearing.... They bring goodness to this world in Russia?! What then can we say about MMA tournaments? Where are strong bearded and not so strong men breaking each other for money? MMA has nothing to do with it. All questions relate to the state’s migration policy, the lack of interest of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and other law enforcement agencies in stopping crime and illegal migration. In the end, to the president who was chosen because there was no one else. He withdrew himself from solving these problems. He has a battle for a much polar world. Global tasks. And all the problems of those ordinary citizens who live at this time are collateral damage. Pre-accounted losses.
  67. +2
    21 March 2024 20: 38
    This whole herd goes home to the donkeys.
  68. +3
    21 March 2024 20: 44
    MMA may need to be left, not disbanded. But the whole group of fight fans and those who protect them - home in Wed. Asia. Let them at least beat each other up at home. There is no place for them in Russia.
  69. +2
    21 March 2024 21: 28
    If even the president is afraid to say the word Russian, changing it to the vague one - Russian, what do you want from a corrupt government of a lower rank? The main thing there is income. And migrants bring this income to developers, housing and communal services, large chains of stores and markets, municipalities, etc. And the Russians... Are they Russians? If you call yourself Russian, it means you are a nationalist, and our country is supposedly multinational
  70. +3
    21 March 2024 21: 51
    Maybe it is necessary to tighten migration policy and control over migrants. Illegals are out of the country, specialists should be selected, but they are really necessary. But checking is not so difficult. They need living space and it is advisable not to work but to parasitize on others. I met residents of Central Asia who both know and can build well. He works both in the field and in the sea. But we need to get rid of parasites.
  71. -1
    21 March 2024 22: 21
    Has modern sport become a garbage dump? Well...
    Has the modern journalist become anything?
    Isn’t the author of VO degrading? And we, commentators, aren’t we starting to write comments faster and faster, not paying attention to the rules, at least the basic ones, of the Russian language?
    At least Skoromokhov does his job this way.
  72. +1
    22 March 2024 01: 20
    in our cities, these organized crime groups “Diaspora” are raising fighters. These are not athletes, they are just fist fighters. Bandits are about to take to the streets for a very transparent purpose.


    All we have to do is wait for the diasporas to start opening military shooting clubs en masse and arming their fighters en masse...
    And this chaos will last for at least another 6 years of the reign of the current anti-Russian government...
  73. +4
    22 March 2024 02: 38
    The trouble is not with MMA but with alien comrades on our land and the complete inaction of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the authorities
  74. +3
    22 March 2024 04: 25
    The author has everything mixed together. In the Caucasus, mine was always popular no matter what it was called: boxing, wrestling, MMA. Because mentality, and this is the only way to achieve something without cronyism (much like football in Brazil). But the authorities are not bothered by all this semi-criminalism because it doesn’t concern them, so when Dimon’s son the Chechens get sick and start itching.
  75. 0
    22 March 2024 07: 42
    The author was torn about the topic of national relations, but he went in on a lame mare - it turns out that it’s all MMA’s fault. Don't go to Freud here, everything is clear. And it’s disgusting, frankly speaking.
  76. +3
    22 March 2024 10: 26
    This is some kind of....r...In the style of Karate bans in the USSR.
    You only need to blame it in the mirror. In the 90s they wanted to close the wrestling department at Infiz Krasnodar. The reason is that a lot of 90s thugs are wrestlers. Sport is discipline and order. MMA is a sport like any other.
  77. +6
    22 March 2024 11: 39
    The article is in the spirit of Soviet wall newspapers - too much empty defamation. Although the idea is essentially correct - MMA clubs train future diaspora fighters. But MMA itself has nothing to do with it - it is simply the most effective and popular fighting style. Is it okay to practice boxing? Is wrestling okay? Then what is the problem with the style combining them. And Russians should not wring their hands, but go to these sections themselves and send their children there. And the “garbage dump” is not MMA clubs, but the diasporas themselves and the current migration policy
  78. +1
    22 March 2024 13: 12
    The foreign policy of the country’s top leadership, even if it is a solid “four”, or maybe “five minus”, is no more than a “three minus”. And in some regions, the same Chelyabinsk, for example, received a “two”, if not a “one with expulsion from school,” by the regional leadership.
    And sport is a reflection through a magnifying glass of the ongoing distortions in the internal politics of the state.
  79. +1
    22 March 2024 13: 48
    There was such a group of “like-minded people” called “Black Panthers”
  80. +1
    22 March 2024 14: 13
    Needed. Show sports is as integral a part of life in times of information excess as show business.

    Moreover, I propose to formalize show sports in Rus' by law. Participation from 21 years of age. A show athlete can use any doping at his own peril and risk.

    For using show sports skills in everyday life - the death penalty. In Rus', “everything is permitted,” but “useless” use must be strictly punished.
    1. 0
      22 March 2024 16: 15
      Have you heard anything about fist fights? There the great-grandfathers met in crowds
  81. 0
    22 March 2024 16: 12
    The author writes about nothing, he is not even familiar with the topic.
  82. +1
    22 March 2024 22: 33
    Roman, I agree with the article, moreover, today’s terrorist attack already leads to certain thoughts in our multinational, tolerant country. But.
    Here is this phrase:
    “Football, for example, has been demonstrating for 30 years how you can earn huge amounts of income without doing anything. Somehow I can’t even call it a salary. Hockey is more difficult. There you at least have to be able to skate, but football doesn’t require such costs"
    just killed.
    Not only is it necessary to not only be able to skate in hockey, but also in football you need to have certain talents and shed tons of sweat. Our football players are a separate matter, we have an artificial limit that supposedly stimulates clubs to raise young people and give practice to national team players, but on in fact, they are outright inferior to the foreign players. It is not for nothing that in foreign clubs only a few can withstand the competition
  83. -1
    24 March 2024 01: 31
    I agree with the author 100%!
  84. +1
    24 March 2024 11: 51
    I mixed everything into a heap: sports, nationalities and diaspora. But it’s very simple: there is no law or control, they are invited to Russia not by diasporas, but by our rich nouveau riche, who have one rule - money, money and more money! And when it comes to sports, everyone has their own tastes, so I hate boxing, it’s pure punching and exclusively in the face, with a few exceptions, and there are no less criminals in their fraternity. and maybe more! In my youth I myself did a lot of wrestling and judo and sambo and karate, there was culture there and there were no migrants, but that was in my distant youth. So there is no need to mix sport and banditry, especially the kind that came to us at the request of our “masters of life”!
  85. +1
    24 March 2024 11: 57
    I agree with the comment that “...It seems like the article is about the problem of MMA, but in fact it all came down to visitors...”. And the topic of “newcomers” apparently arose by itself after the very first media reports about the terrorist attack in the Moscow region.
  86. 0
    28 March 2024 17: 57
    Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
    It looks stupid when you write in American software and say that they are stupid.
    Best regards,


    What ??? Yes, this phrase is a direct insult and an outright lie!
    To the barrier, sir!