Where did Dmitry Mendeleev's Nobel Prize go?

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Where did Dmitry Mendeleev's Nobel Prize go?


Scientist No. 1


The more you learn about Dmitry Ivanovich, the more you become his fan. In the Year of the Family, he can be called a real anti-hero. Nothing human was alien to him. At 42, an accomplished family man with two children falls head over heels in love with 16-year-old artist Anna Popova. With great difficulty and a lot of money, Mendeleev manages to convince his wife Feozva Nikitichna to give a divorce. But the expenses did not end there - he had to give a significant bribe to the priest for the wedding with his new wife. The Holy Synod strictly forbade Mendeleev to remarry. But the money did its job, and Dmitry Ivanovich became the happy husband of the young Don Cossack woman Anna Popova, and the priest was defrocked after such fraud. Evil tongues claim that the ex-clergyman bought himself an estate with the proceeds.




Or another example proving Mendeleev’s risky and strong-willed nature. At one time, Dmitry Ivanovich worked for the benefit of the domestic defense industry. By the end of the 1891th century, he was already an accomplished world-class scientist, and he was welcome in many countries. Which the citizen and patriot took advantage of. In XNUMX, on behalf of the Naval Ministry, Mendeleev was sent to France for “familiarization with the work of large industrial enterprises" Of course, the main interest was in defense plants and factories. Especially technologies for the production of smokeless powder. But the French turned out to be not fools and did not bring the secret of the sought-after substance to Mendeleev.

Another would have despaired and gone home, but Siberians are not used to giving up. Mendeleev rented a room not far from the local railway line and easily determined the quantitative and qualitative composition of gunpowder. For the inquisitive mind of a scientist, this was not difficult - it was enough to calculate how many cars with cellulose, sulfuric and nitric acid entered the plant in a certain period of time. Returning to Russia, Mendeleev, after some testing, created “pyrocollodium” or a domestic analogue of smokeless gunpowder. To what extent is this story so beautiful and so tragic - no one in the Russian Empire was going to put pyrocollodia into mass production. American spy John Burnand eventually stole the recipe from the Navy Department and patented pyrocollodion in his homeland. During the First World War, “collodion explosives” had to be purchased from the Americans for the Russian army.


Of course, all of the above is just a small illustration of Dmitry Ivanovich’s most remarkable discovery - the Periodic Law of Chemical Elements. If we talk about the influence on world science and education, then Mendeleev is number one among Russian scientists. In the end, a table of elements named after Dmitry Ivanovich hangs in every school in the world. This is much more valuable than some Nobel Prize, but the paradox remains unresolved - how did one of the fundamental discoveries of chemistry remain without a prestigious award? Moreover, Mendeleev was never awarded the title of academician in his native Russia.

Three versions


The complex, unyielding and hot-tempered character of Dmitry Ivanovich became legendary in his time. As well as a heightened sense of justice. Suffice it to say that the scientist was an honorary member of the Paris, Prussian, Roman, Swedish and American Academies. But not in Russian. The renowned chemist did not mince words and directly said what he thought about his colleagues in the scientific world. Science officials, who knew nothing about it, especially suffered. Count Dmitry Tolstoy, Minister of Internal Affairs and President of the Academy of Sciences, did not even want to hear about the prospect of promoting Mendeleev to academician. Another would have long ago gone abroad, where, undoubtedly, they were waiting for him with open arms, but not Dmitry Ivanovich, who selflessly loved Russia. And these are not pompous words - at the end of his career, he left chemistry and devoted himself to the domestic economy, customs and industry. The last encyclopedist scientist in Russia, no less.

So, the third version of Dmitry Ivanovich’s lack of a Nobel Prize sounds like this: the swagger and arrogance of the members of the Academy of Sciences did not allow the chemist to be nominated at least once for the prestigious award. For reference: they tried to award the Nobel medal to the scientist three times - in 1905, 1906 and 1907. And every time he was nominated by foreign academies. Mendeleev was also disliked at the royal court. Due to disagreements with senior officials, he had to leave his position as a professor at St. Petersburg University and go into metrology. The Royal Academy in Sweden was clearly aware of the difficult relationship between the authorities and the chemist and decided not to tease the Tsar again.


The second player in the difficult history of the Nobel Prize was... the dynasty of the Nobels themselves. The fact is that the Nobel Brothers Oil Production Partnership lived in Baku at that time, which monopolized the oil industry in the region. Mendeleev managed to leave a legacy here too. Of course, in favor of the state. Firstly, he proved that there is no depletion of the Baku fields, which means that the Nobels are unfoundedly spreading rumors and raising prices on oil exchanges. Secondly, Dmitry Ivanovich proposed delivering oil not in barrels by horse-drawn transport, but through pipelines, which sharply reduced the cost of oil. Everyone remembers the famous one from Mendeleev: “Oil is not a fuel; it can be heated with banknotes"? He said this in connection with the identification of kerosene production and oil business. Nobel was interested in spreading oil-based heating and lighting throughout Russia, while Mendeleev forced the allocation of flammable and cheap kerosene fractions for this purpose. More precisely, he did not force, but brought to the attention of the management the Nobels’ cunning. The Nobel oil monopoly in Russia also came under attack. Mendeleev behaved like a true protectionist and wrote:

“Gentlemen of Moscow and all other Russian capitalists. Will you let the French, Germans, Swedes, English and Americans exploit this Russian wealth and make good profits on it, or will you decide to take it yourself when again a big money-making business is pointed out to you by someone who has long been following the fate of the Russian oil industry and nothing more? does not want it to develop to the extent that corresponds to the natural reserves of the country... Show the world at least in this matter that you can cope with your own... You, gentlemen, Russian capitalists, have to illuminate and lubricate both Russia and Europe , sharing your service and honor with America, along the way turning a four-kopeck product into a five-ruble product, which will make something stick to both your hands and the hands of thousands of workers who will be needed in order to turn these millions of pounds lying in vain underground.”

How Mr. Mendeleev looked into the water, for which he paid with a failed Nobel award.


Vengeful Svante Arrhenius

The second foreigner who prevented Mendeleev from becoming a Nobel laureate was Svante Arrhenius. He, by the way, received a prize in chemistry in 1903, but before and after that he did everything to prevent Mendeleev from being awarded a Nobel medal in his native Sweden. And Svante’s weight at the Royal Academy was considerable. They quarreled to smithereens over the theory of electrolytic dissociation, and Arrhenius could not forgive Dmitry Ivanovich for his criticism. To do this, he insisted on expanding the Nobel Committee, where he brought in his people, and the prize was given to Henri Moissan in 1906. And in a completely tactless manner - at first the Swedish Academy voted for Mendeleev, but then Arrhenius insisted on reconsidering the case in favor of Moissan. The French chemist Moissan was clearly worthy of the Nobel Prize - his discovery of fluorine and the electric arc furnace he developed captivated everyone. In addition, there were rumors that Moissan had seriously damaged his health during experiments with toxic fluorine and was about to die. But Mendeleev was no less significant for the Nobel Committee, and his discovery happened much earlier. There was nothing to say about the influence on world science - the Periodic Law was more significant than fluorine and the electric arc furnace. Moissan, by the way, actually died suddenly in 1907, a few months after the award ceremony. Not from fluoride poisoning, but from banal appendicitis. And when it was Dmitry Ivanovich’s turn to receive the prize, the President of the Royal Academy Clason said that 72-year-old Mendeleev was too old. According to the official, he simply will not have time to use the amount of money for the benefit of science and society.


Dmitry Ivanovich died on February 2, 1907, on the eve of his 73rd birthday, without being awarded the Nobel Prize. The only Nobel Prize in chemistry among Russian scientists at the moment was received in 1956 by Nikolai Semyonov, but that’s a completely different story.
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  1. +5
    20 March 2024 06: 32
    Nobel was interested in spreading oil-based heating and lighting across Russia
    In 1745, under Empress Elizabeth, Fyodor Pryadunov built the first oil well and oil refinery in Ukhta. By distilling "stone oil" (petroleum), he produced a substance similar to kerosene, which was used in the oil lamps of Russian churches and monasteries, although households still used candles.
    1. -12
      20 March 2024 10: 18
      nda kept waiting for the author to tell the main reason for Mendeleev’s conflict with the authorities and with official science.
      This is what Mendeleev recognized ETHER and put this element in first place in his periodic table. But official science, together with the “great” Einstein, denied this. Subsequently, the same Michelson and Morley, as well as Miller, still confirmed the presence of ethereal wind in their experiences.
      But to deny Einstein’s theory of relativity was tantamount to anti-Semitism, so ether was thrown out of the periodic law, which is why world science stopped developing.
      As Gref said: “People need skills, not knowledge.”
      1. +5
        20 March 2024 10: 36
        This is what Mendeleev recognized ETHER and put this element in first place in his periodic table. But official science, together with the “great” Einstein, denied this. Subsequently, the same Michelson and Morley, as well as Miller, still confirmed the presence of ethereal wind in their experiences.
        But to deny Einstein’s theory of relativity was tantamount to anti-Semitism, so ether was thrown out of the periodic law, which is why world science stopped developing.

        Where did you get this nonsense?
        1. -7
          20 March 2024 10: 46
          darkness, read history books, you will be even smarter.
          1. +7
            20 March 2024 10: 56
            darkness, read history books

            Well, give me a link to the “history textbook”, darkness, and at the same time a link to the site where your picture is from. Because in your picture the name in the table header already smells of the manipulations of alternativeists on the topic of Mendeleev’s understanding of “ether”.
            PS The Michelson-Morley experiments did not exactly confirm the “presence of ethereal wind”. This is the verdict of the natural scientists themselves.
            1. +3
              20 March 2024 11: 28
              Where did you get this nonsense?
              You haven’t read all the nonsense of this commentator yet.. laughing hi Judging by his comments, neither his teeth were worn off by the granite of science, but the granite of science was worn off by his teeth. smile hi
            2. -3
              20 March 2024 11: 29
              Quote: Nefarious skeptic
              Well, give me a link to the “history textbook”, darkness, and at the same time a link to the site where your picture is from.


              https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/de/Менделеев_-_Попытка_химического_понимания_мирового_эфира_%281905%29.pdf
              1. +2
                20 March 2024 11: 59
                https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/de/Менделеев_-_Попытка_химического_понимания_мирового_эфира_%281905%29.pdf

                You haven't read this work, have you? Otherwise, they would have known, right from the title of the work, continuing with the preface and ending with the conclusion, that Mendeleev did not “recognize the ether,” but made an attempt to confirm or refute the earlier theories of physicists with a theory based on chemistry.
                I will not overwhelm readers with a complete list of excerpts from the work; the conclusion will suffice
                I look at my attempt, which is far from complete, to understand the nature of the world ether from the real chemical side as nothing more than an expression of the sum of the impressions that have accumulated in me, which come out solely for the reason that I do not want the thoughts inspired by reality to disappeared. It is likely that similar thoughts have occurred to many, but until they are expressed, they easily and often disappear and do not develop, do not entail a gradual accumulation of the reliable, which alone is preserved. If they contain at least a part of the natural truth that we are all looking for, my attempt is not in vain, it will be developed, supplemented and corrected, and if my thought is incorrect in its foundations, its presentation, after one form or another of refutation, will prevent others from repeating it. I don’t know any other way for slow but steady movement forward. But even if it turns out to be impossible to recognize the ether as having the properties of the lightest, fastest moving, most inactive gas in the chemical sense, still, remaining true to realism, it is impossible to deny the ether its materiality, and with it the question of its chemical nature arises. My attempt is nothing more than a feasible and primary answer to this immediate question, and in essence it boils down to putting this question on the line.

                And here is what he writes in the preface to the 7th edition of “Fundamentals of Chemistry”:
                The more I had to think about the nature of chemical elements, the more... clearly I realized that earlier or first must get something more real than now, picture of "mass" and about "on air"... In order to go further in the knowledge of the atoms themselves, it is inevitable to clarify experimentally the initial concepts of mass, of attraction and of “ether”, otherwise realism itself will again open the doors to metaphysical and metachemical ideas like phlogiston AND VARIOUS mystical nonsense...

                PS By the way, neither the 7th nor the 8th edition has a table with a highlighted “zero group”. You relayed a fake above.
                1. -6
                  20 March 2024 12: 57
                  Is this work by Mendeleev a fake? Prove why?
                  I think it’s not a fake, but real work.
                  1. +3
                    20 March 2024 13: 02
                    Is this work by Mendeleev a fake?

                    Fake your picture of part of the periodic table with the red square with “newtonium” highlighted.
                    Prove why?

                    Perhaps because the 8th edition is no different from the 7th edition, which is open in front of me.
                    1. -5
                      20 March 2024 13: 05
                      in my article that I brought to you, Mendellev created the ZERO series and the ZERO group specifically for elements with mass less than one and in this article he called them X and Y. Do you see this?
                      1. +3
                        20 March 2024 13: 09
                        in my article that I brought to you, Mendellev created the ZERO series and the ZERO group specifically for elements with mass less than one and in this article he called them X and Y. Do you see this?

                        You don't mix work"Attempt chemical understanding of world ether" and the work "Fundamentals of Chemistry". Ostensibly from which the table with "zero" elements in the picture you provided in the first message.
                      2. -6
                        20 March 2024 13: 12
                        Well, yes, the fact that the article is called “An Attempt to Understand the Ether,” in your opinion, does not mean at all that Mendeleev was talking about the ether there, he was just wagging his tongue.
                      3. +4
                        20 March 2024 13: 15
                        Well, yes, the fact that the article is called “An Attempt to Understand the Ether,” in your opinion, does not mean at all that Mendeleev was talking about the ether there, he was just wagging his tongue.

                        No, he didn’t wag his tongue like that, he made an attempt to understand. But trying to understand and proving existence are not the same thing. Mendeleev himself speaks about this.
                      4. -5
                        20 March 2024 13: 19
                        well, he says so much that he published his famous table with precisely these elements - ether and coronium, and this is not a fake. But when these elements that were not discovered were completely thrown out of his law, then this is no longer a fake, but a falsification, which is what I mean said.
                      5. +4
                        20 March 2024 13: 21
                        Well, he says so much that he published his famous table with precisely these elements - ether and coronium, and this is not a fake.

                        Show this "published" table with ether and coronium. Just business then.
            3. -3
              20 March 2024 11: 41
              Quote: Nefarious skeptic
              .S. The Michelson-Morley experiments did not exactly confirm the “presence of ethereal wind.” This is the verdict of the natural scientists themselves.


              Research into the theory of the ethereal wind
              Main article: Morley-Miller experiments
              Miller repeated Michelson's experiments on an airship. Contrary to Michelson's first experiments, the result was positive, a shift was discovered in the band of interfering waves: For h = 250 m: Vether = 3 km/s; for h = 1860 m: Vether = 10 km/s[5].

              The experiments were carried out in 1902-1906 (Morley and Miller), in 1921-1925 (Miller)[5] and later[6]. The experimental installation was raised into a mountainous area and was not covered with a metal casing according to the recommendations given by Michelson in his 1887 work[7].

              Miller claimed that using the same equipment he obtained a certain result - an ethereal wind with a speed of about 10 km/s from the apex in the constellation Draco with coordinates (255°, +68°)[5][8][9].

              In 1933, D. K. Miller published a large final article about his work, where he indicated the speed of the ethereal wind from 10 to 11 ± 0,33 km/s with a probable error in determining the azimuth ± 2,5 ° and polar coordinates ± 0,5 ° [6].

              A later study of the results obtained by D. Miller showed that the fluctuations observed by him and interpreted as the presence of an “ethereal wind” are a consequence of statistical errors and failure to take into account temperature effects. Thus, it was concluded that his experiments did not contain evidence of the existence of the ether[10].



              https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Миллер,_Дейтон_Кларенс
              1. +4
                20 March 2024 12: 06
                Research into the theory of the ethereal wind
                Main article: Morley-Miller experiments

                Now carefully (if possible) read what you suggest others read. You don’t see that it is written in black and white that “the fluctuations observed by him and interpreted as the presence of an “ethereal wind” are a consequence of statistical errors and failure to take into account temperature effects.” But this is, of course, “the machinations of reptilians”
                1. -4
                  20 March 2024 12: 59
                  Yes, the beginning of this work from Wikipedia is contradictory, the first part, where it is said that Miller proved the existence of the ethereal wind, and the second, where some commentator, contrary to Miller’s opinion, entered with his own opinion.
                  1. +2
                    20 March 2024 13: 06
                    the first part, where it is said that Miller proved the existence of the ethereal wind

                    In the “first part” there is not a word about the proof, only about the positive results of the experiment, which differed from the results of the experiments of other scientists.
                    the second, where some commentator, contrary to Miller’s opinion, entered with his own opinion.

                    Some commentator is Robert S. Shankland, S.W. McCaskey, F.K. Leone and J. Kuerti, who in 1955 rechecked the results of Miller's experiment
                    1. -5
                      20 March 2024 13: 08
                      that is, do you think negative results are evidence?
                      1. +3
                        20 March 2024 13: 10
                        that is, do you think negative results are evidence?

                        wassat It's not just my opinion. What do you think?
                      2. -3
                        20 March 2024 13: 13
                        In my opinion, since Miller found evidence of ethereal wind expressed in meters per second, he says that the result is positive.
                      3. +3
                        20 March 2024 13: 19
                        In my opinion, since Miller found evidence of ethereal wind expressed in meters per second, he says that the result is positive.

                        Yeah, the patient is more dead than alive. You do not understand either what you read yourself or what they tell you.
                      4. -4
                        20 March 2024 13: 22
                        It’s not difficult to understand you, you deny Mendeleev’s zero group and zero series, something that Mendeleev himself created, in this case I’m on Mendeleev’s side.
                      5. +3
                        20 March 2024 13: 24
                        You are on the side of darkness and ignorance. What Mendeleev warned about:
                        In order to go further in the knowledge of the atoms themselves, it is inevitable to clarify experimentally the initial concepts of mass, attraction and “ether”, otherwise realism itself will again open the door to metaphysical and metachemical ideas like phlogiston and VARIOUS mystical nonsense...
                      6. -4
                        20 March 2024 13: 26
                        Is there a zero group and a zero row or not? Did Mendeleev create them or not, who dared to change the law discovered by Mendeleev himself?
                      7. +4
                        20 March 2024 13: 29
                        Is there a zero group and a zero row or not? Did Mendeleev create them or not, who dared to change the law discovered by Mendeleev himself?

                        You bore me with your nonsense. I hope you are just a child confused by too much information, who will eventually figure out how to separate the wheat from the chaff. All the best
                      8. -3
                        20 March 2024 13: 30
                        Do you seem to be a skeptic about skeptics? It will be right. The enemy of my friend, my enemy.
                      9. +2
                        20 March 2024 14: 19
                        The reason your opponent thinks his opinion matters is because he believes it to be correct. Your opponent believes that his opinion is the only correct one, and all other opinions are wrong. He has an inherent reluctance to compromise because he believes he is right. He is strong in his beliefs and has spent a lot of time and energy defending them. hi
                      10. +5
                        20 March 2024 14: 23
                        I made the mistake of engaging in conversation. I understood after reading the history of Pavel’s comments. The embodiment of the RenTV channel in a separate individual.
                    2. -4
                      20 March 2024 13: 34
                      Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                      Some commentator is Robert S. Shankland, S.W. McCaskey, F.K. Leone and J. Kuerti, who in 1955 rechecked the results of Miller's experiment


                      So here’s Miller’s work and, additionally, at the end of the work of other scientists whose work gave a positive result in finding the ether.

                      https://experimentum-crucis.narod.ru/olderfiles/1/Miller_rus.pdf
                      1. +3
                        20 March 2024 14: 20
                        So here’s Miller’s work and, additionally, at the end of the work of other scientists whose work gave a positive result in finding the ether.
                        https://experimentum-crucis.narod.ru/olderfiles/1/Miller_rus.pdf

                        Here is Roberts' work, which explains how Miller got his result.
                        https://arxiv.org/vc/physics/papers/0608/0608238v2.pdf
                        How to refute lol , come back.
                      2. -2
                        20 March 2024 16: 18
                        do you have any work in gibberish? otherwise I don’t read non-gibberish.
                      3. +3
                        20 March 2024 16: 51
                        do you have any work in gibberish? otherwise I don’t read non-gibberish.

                        Dictionaries do not seem to be prohibited. I am confident that you will overcome this difficulty with honor.
                      4. 0
                        28 March 2024 12: 56
                        I am amazed at your tenacity in arguing with this... hmm, not very distant individual.
      2. 0
        20 March 2024 19: 42
        But official science, together with the “great” Einstein, denied this.
        Two additions.
        First. Before Einstein, the special theory of relativity (SRT) was created by Poincaré, Lorentz and Fitzgerald. He just advertised it skillfully.
        Second. Using the Navstar or GPS system, you use the invariance of the interval from SRT. (E.V. Kononovich, V.I. Morozov, General course in astronomy, Moscow, 2001)
        1. 0
          20 March 2024 19: 44
          Quote: Aviator_
          Using the Navstar or GPS system, you use the invariance of the interval from SRT


          what did you say, now in Russian please.
          1. +1
            20 March 2024 21: 18
            I hope you are not talking about Navstar with GPS. Interval invariance is one of the consequences of the special theory of relativity. At low speeds (classical mechanics), the invariants (that is, unchanging quantities in various inertial frames of reference) are length, time interval and acceleration. And at high speeds, approaching the speed of light (and the signal to the GPS satellite travels at the speed of light), the invariant is a complex of coordinates and time, called an interval. Inertial systems are where the law of inertia (Newton's first law) is observed.
    2. +3
      20 March 2024 10: 25
      Gunpowder was TRADITIONALLY dried in a rather dangerous way - with warm air. Explosions occurred regularly until D.I. Mendeleev proposed a simple method - drying (dehydrating) with alcohol. Before pressing, black powder was soaked in alcohol and dried in a stove, the alcohol completely evaporated.
      And the gunpowder developed by Mendeleev, more correctly called “pyroxylin”, did not decompose and did not stain the bore.
      American officers Bernado and Conversi did not hide the fact that the technology was “Mendeleev’s”, but Dmitry Ivanovich this method. alas, did not patent it.
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  2. 0
    20 March 2024 06: 49
    Strange story with pyrocollodium. It seems to be believed that Mendeleev created it in January 1891. And in 1893, Admiral Makarov gave a positive review of the officially conducted tests.
  3. +2
    20 March 2024 08: 02
    No one in the Russian Empire was going to put pyrocollodia into mass production.

    What are you ?!
    And what, I’m embarrassed to ask, were the cartridges for the 1891 model rifle, 1895 revolver, 3" gun of 1900, 48 linear and 6" guns and howitzers, naval guns loaded with: 75/50 mm, 120/45 mm, 6/45 ", 8/45", 10/45" and 12/40"?
    Well, as much as you can repeat: it’s a bad habit to use words whose meaning you don’t understand!
    1. 0
      20 March 2024 10: 38
      There is probably some kind of confusion here about the cartridge for the 1891 Mosin rifle. 7.62x54mm was developed for smokeless gunpowder, Mendeleev created his pyrocollodium in 1891, but they write that Mendeleev created some kind of smokeless gunpowder back in 1889. perhaps these are different gunpowders, in addition, the first Mosin rifles were produced in France and perhaps the cartridges were also made from French gunpowder.
  4. +5
    20 March 2024 08: 11
    But not in Russian. The renowned chemist did not mince words and directly said what he thought about his colleagues in the scientific world. Science officials, who knew nothing about it, especially suffered.

    Nothing changes.
    Now this is especially noticeable when positions and posts are occupied by people “close to the emperor”, and not by specialists and professionals.
  5. +1
    20 March 2024 08: 13
    Quote: Grossvater
    cartridges for a rifle of the 1891 model, a revolver of 1895, a 3" gun of 1900, 48 linear and 6" guns and howitzers, naval guns: 75/50 mm, 120/45 mm, 6/45", 8/45", 10 /45" and 12/40"?

    P.S. I'm sorry. The cartridges in this list were fired up to 120/45 mm inclusive. 48 lin. and 6" of all types had separate cartridge loading, in everything that was thicker, cap. But everything fired with smokeless pyrocolloid gunpowder.
    1. 0
      21 March 2024 10: 16
      Quote: Grossvater
      6" of all types had separate cartridge loading

      Strictly speaking, the six-inch Kane was initially cartridge-based and only then was it switched to separate-case loading
  6. +1
    20 March 2024 08: 41
    Or maybe the whole point is that at the time the Nobel Prize was founded, the Periodic Table was more than 30 years old?
  7. +1
    20 March 2024 09: 10
    Dmitry Ivanovich died on February 2, 1907, on the eve of his 73rd birthday, without being awarded the Nobel Prize.

    I think it’s unbecoming for such a gentleman to sully himself with the Nobel Prize. After it was awarded to Obama, its meaning disappeared. This is more of a mark of a hanger-on, a servant of the masters
  8. 0
    20 March 2024 09: 53
    It’s funny that Moissan was awarded the prize, expecting that he was “about to die,” and Mendeleev, based on the same expectations, was refused. There are simply people who are destined to receive all kinds of resources, and there are people who will always have a hard time with this. It is important how they themselves feel about it. After all, you can make grandiose discoveries on dry rations and waste billions of dollars in profits on yachts that you have never sailed on.
  9. 0
    20 March 2024 10: 24
    If I'm talking about smokeless gunpowder, I really don't like it at all:
    Firstly, blaming the long-deceased priest of the king for all mortal sins. Russia was one of the first in the introduction of smokeless powder, or at least did not lag behind. The same America, with its powerful chemical industry and excellent Du Pont gunpowder, used smokers during the American-Spanish War. 1895, I want to note, but in Russia in 1891 they already adopted a rifle for smokeless powder.
    Secondly, I still haven’t figured out how you can calculate the recipe for gunpowder by counting barrels of acid. Does the author really think that Dmitry Ivanovich did not know how to nitrate cellulose? For the author's information, the secret is not in obtaining nitrocellulose, but in giving it the necessary properties, and it was necessary to consider alcohol and ether wink.
    I admit that the secret of gelling gunpowder from the French was backed down, but in order not to get burned, they launched a duck with Mendeleev into flight laughing.
    1. 0
      20 March 2024 21: 32
      Mendeleev was sent in 1890 to England and France. I visited gunpowder factories and officially received documentation and samples of gunpowder. After that, he launched research activities in Russia on smokeless gunpowder.
    2. 0
      21 March 2024 01: 10
      Quote: Grossvater
      The same America, with its powerful chemical industry and excellent Du Pont gunpowder, used smokers during the American-Spanish War. 1895, I want to note, but in Russia in 1891 they already adopted a rifle for smokeless powder.

      With smokeless powder in Russia, too, not everything was smooth, for example, the Nagan revolver cartridge was immediately designed to be equipped with smokeless powder, but since for many years it was not possible to achieve stable combustion with short pistol barrels, it was decided to use smoky hunting powder with brown coal to load revolver cartridges. And this continued until 1907 (although there were single batches with smokeless powder in 1899)
  10. 0
    21 March 2024 02: 29
    The reason Mendelev did not receive the Nobel Prize is well known. According to Nobel's charter and will, the prize was awarded for new discoveries, to which Mendeleev's discovery at that time no longer applied.
    Income from investments should belong to the fund, which will distribute them annually in the form of bonuses to those who during the previous year brought the greatest benefit to humanity.

    But this
    The second player in the difficult history of the Nobel Prize was... the dynasty of the Nobels themselves.

    frankly far-fetched.
    The future Nobel Foundation, which ensured the issuance of the prize, was in a strong confrontation with Nobel’s relatives; the relatives tried in every possible way to challenge his will.
    But there can be no talk about their influence on the issuance of bonuses.
  11. 0
    21 March 2024 18: 29
    Let's just say that the recognition of Dmitry Ivanovich's services to world and Russian science and technology by the Nobel Committee did not and does not influence me. You simply cannot comprehend his contribution to the development of chemistry, chemical technology, and most importantly, to Russian metrology. Hence the discussion in all seriousness of all sorts of vysers... not even charlatans, no, just thimble-makers.
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    24 March 2024 22: 19
    Quote: Grossvater
    The American-Spanish War was shot with a smoker. 1895

    Pardon, 1898.
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    24 March 2024 22: 22
    Quote: Senior Sailor
    Quote: Grossvater
    6" of all types had separate cartridge loading

    Strictly speaking, the six-inch Kane was initially cartridge-based and only then was it switched to separate-case loading

    Well... I don’t know... They demonstrated a French gun with cartridge loading, that’s for sure, but they seemed to buy it separately.
    To be honest, I’m too lazy to search, let’s settle on the fact that the 6" Cane gun in the cartridge-loading version existed in nature winked!
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    24 March 2024 22: 29
    Quote: BORMAN82
    since for many years it was not possible to achieve stable combustion

    And thank God everyone had trouble with this. At least our battleships in commercial quantities did not self-explode, like Jena and Liberty among the French, Mikasa among the Japanese, and I don’t remember who among the British.
    In fact, I wrote that nitration of cotton wool is not the trickiest secret in the preparation of gunpowder, so Dmitry Ivanovich had no need to count barrels of acid, and alcohol, ether, Vaseline and whatever else was used for gelling and stabilizing smokeless gunpowder were supplied in quantities which cannot be identified by looking at the railway station.
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    25 March 2024 10: 24
    There is such a Soviet and Russian scientist: Nikolai Nikolaevich Gorkavy. Astrophysicist, writer, Doctor of Physical and Mathematical Sciences (1991). Laureate of the USSR State Prize (1989). One of the facts about him on Wiki caught my attention:
    Academician V.I. Arnold in his book “Mathematical understanding of nature. Essays on amazing physical phenomena and their understanding by mathematicians”[35] writes that he discussed with foreign scientists the possibility of awarding the Nobel Prize for predicting the satellites of Uranus:

    It seems to me that the Nobel Prizes were specially created to crown precisely such scientific discoveries, subsequently confirmed by experiments or observations, as the described theory of the rings of Uranus. But the American astronomers with whom I subsequently discussed this objected: “our goal is to support American theories, not Russian ones.”

    I think that this approach applies not only to astronomy, but also to all other positions concerning Russia. That’s why the Nobel Prize “disappeared” for Russians...
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    25 March 2024 18: 43
    What to take from rednecks besides tests?????????????