“If less than half of the Russians remain in the division, it needs to be disbanded”

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“If less than half of the Russians remain in the division, it needs to be disbanded”
Commander of the 1st Baltic Front, Army General Ivan Khristoforovich Bagramyan (1897–1982) in a Willys car. 1944


National military construction


The national policy of the Bolsheviks (communists) was aimed at the development of small nations, nationalities, their culture, language, intelligentsia, etc. In particular, one of the main directions in the field of military development was the creation of national military units on the national outskirts of the former Russian Empire.



In this regard, the Bolsheviks repeated the mistake of the Provisional Government, which created such units during the First World War. In particular, it carried out the “Ukrainization” of military formations on the territory of the former Little Russia. The result was disastrous, although the officer cadres were mostly former tsarist officers and non-commissioned officers. Russian by origin. The Ukrainianized units had low combat effectiveness and motivation and almost immediately fell apart under the pressure of more motivated, for example, units of the Red Army.

This negative experience was also given by the Great Patriotic War, in the first stages of which both national military formations and massive conscription contingents from the Central Asian, Caucasian and Transcaucasian regions of the USSR took a large part in the hostilities.

Unfortunately, the Bolsheviks did not take into account the fact that already the wars of the 1812th century showed the superiority of national armies formed on the basis of universal conscription over multinational contingents. Thus, the national French army, led by Napoleon and other brilliant commanders of France, relatively easily defeated the army of the “patchwork” Austrian Empire. And the Russian National Army buried Napoleon’s Grand Army of the “twelve tongues” in XNUMX.

The multinational composition of the army of the Austrian Empire was one of the reasons for the defeat in the Austro-Italian-French War of 1859 and the army of Austria-Hungary in the First World War. The personnel were recruited throughout the vast Habsburg Empire, and the soldiers spoke dozens of languages ​​and dialects.

By the beginning of the 29th century, only 18% of the personnel were Austro-Germans, XNUMX% were Hungarians, the rest were various Slavs, Romanians, Italians, etc. And the officer corps consisted almost entirely of Germans and Hungarians with small inclusions of Poles, Czechs and Croats . This led to misunderstanding and discord between officers and privates, and individual groups of soldiers who were recruited in various national Ukrainian outskirts.

Recruits were taught only a few commands in German. In other cases, translators were needed. It is clear that this reduced the combat effectiveness of such a unit. If in some regiment representatives of one nationality made up more than 20% of the military, then their language was recognized as the regimental language, and its knowledge, necessary for service, was required from officers and non-commissioned officers. Plus numerous conflicts and national tension. The officer corps had to spend a lot of energy maintaining the combat effectiveness of its units and formations.

This did not have the best effect on the combat effectiveness of the Austro-Hungarian army. During the First World War, the patchwork army literally fell apart under the blows of the Russian army, the Slavs surrendered en masse to the Russians. In order to save the army of Austria-Hungary from complete disaster, it had to be “reinforced” by German divisions of the Second Reich.

The Russian Army


There were no such problems in the army of the Russian Empire, since it was recruited on the basis of universal conscription, mainly from Russians. Representatives of dozens of small nationalities, tribes of the Caucasus, Turkestan, Steppe Territory (modern Kazakhstan), Siberia and the Far North were not taken into the army at all. There were exceptions, such as the Caucasian Native Cavalry Corps, recruited from representatives of the nobility of the mountain tribes. But it was more of an honorary formation.

During the First World War, national units of formations from Czechs, Slovaks, and Poles began to be formed, but there were few of them, and they were motivated by the liberation of their national territories from the Germans.

This system has worked since the military reform of the 1860–1870s (previously the army was also Russian national with small inclusions of foreigners, mainly in irregular units).

The law on universal conscription, adopted in 1874, declared the conscription of Orthodox, Protestants, Catholics and Jews into the army. Muslims (with some exceptions), nomadic tribes, Buddhists, and some Christian sectarians, for example Molokans, were not subject to conscription. That is, universal conscription was not total; there were exceptions.

There was also a rule according to which at least 75% of Russians had to serve in each military unit. At that time, the Russian superethnos was not yet divided into Russians (Great Russians), Ukrainians-Little Russians and Belarusians.

The main reason for this attitude was that the various peoples and tribes of the Russian Empire were at different stages of civilization construction. The Rus-Russians are the state-forming core of the empire-power, with a higher spiritual and material culture. They carried out military service. Other peoples still had to go a long way from the tribal, traditional way of life to civilization.

When in 1916 the military leadership of the Russian Empire decided to replenish the army’s manpower reserves at the expense of the peoples of Turkestan and the Steppe Territory in order to use them in labor work in the rear, a large-scale uprising began (The black myth of the “national liberation uprising of the Kyrgyz people against tsarism” in 1916). He was easily suppressed. But the idea of ​​using foreigners in the war had to be abandoned.


Russian infantry in formation. 1917

“In the spirit of inculcating the ideas of brotherhood and solidarity of the peoples of the Union”


The Bolsheviks actively used various national units - Latvians, Estonians, Hungarians, Chinese, etc., in the Civil War. They were quite an effective tool in the fight against the White Army or during punitive operations against rebel peasants or Cossacks. L. Trotsky actively promoted the idea of ​​national units. This was one of the areas of the fight against “Great Russian chauvinism.” Also, national units were to play an important role in the plan for the “world revolution.”

Therefore, after the victory in the Civil War, this course continued with the development of the Red Army. This was part of the Soviet national policy, developed at the XII Congress of the RCP (b) in April 1923 and at the IV meeting of the Central Committee of the RCP (b) in June of the same year. The resolution adopted by the congress “National moments in party and state building” recommended strengthening “educational work in the Red Army in the spirit of inculcating the ideas of brotherhood and solidarity of the peoples of the Union” and taking measures to organize national military units.

The resolution on the national issue, adopted at the IV meeting of the Central Committee of the RCP (b), confirmed the urgency of the measures taken at the congress and demanded that a course be taken towards the creation of military schools in the republics and regions, and the formation of a command staff from local natives who would become the new core of national military units . The task was set to form national police units in Tataria and Bashkiria. It was noted that national divisions had already been created in Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan, and it was proposed to create one police division each in Belarus and Ukraine.

It was believed that the creation of national units was of priority importance, both in defense against a possible attack from Turkey, Afghanistan, Poland, etc., and in the matter of a possible offensive by Soviet Russia against neighboring states.

The policy of creating national military units was an important part of the policy of “indigenization” on the national issue, proclaimed at the X Congress of the RCP (b) in March 1921. According to this policy, in order to win sympathy for Soviet power on the national outskirts, it was proposed to highlight national personnel from local natives, create national systems of higher, secondary and primary education, and encourage the development of national languages, culture, and sciences in national republics and regions.

Unfortunately, all this was done to the detriment of the state-forming Russian people. That is, the national Ukrainian outskirts were improved instead of the development of the indigenous Russian provinces, small nations progressed at the expense of the resources and personnel of the Russian people. The Russian people were severely cut off due to the separation of political nations created by directives - Ukrainians and Belarusians.

Military reform 1924–1925


The formation of national military units took place within the framework of the military reform of 1924–1925. After the end of the turmoil and intervention, in conditions of economic devastation, the USSR could not maintain a large army. Therefore, from December 1920 to 1923, the army was reduced from 5,5 million people to 516 thousand, that is, more than 10 times.

At the same time, there was a transition to a territorial-militia system of army recruitment. This was supposed to reduce costs for the armed forces, provide military training and preserve the personnel core of the army. In the summer of 1921, the first police brigade was created in Petrograd, and in January 1923, 10 divisions were transferred to a new basis. On August 8, 1923, the Central Executive Committee and the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR issued a decree “On the organization of territorial units and the conduct of military training of workers.” In 1925, the Red Army had 46 rifle and 1 cavalry territorial-militia divisions.

In December 1923, by decision of the Revolutionary Military Council of the USSR, the army switched to the national-territorial principle of recruitment. The reform was carried out under the leadership of the head of the Revolutionary Military Council, Trotsky. Lev Davidovich proposed creating national armies in the republics, which were supposed to form the allied army. It is obvious that the implementation of such an idea would quickly lead to another turmoil and collapse of the USSR.

The Bolsheviks, led by Stalin, understood that the national armies would become easy prey for the separatist nationalists. Therefore, Trotsky’s idea of ​​national armies was rejected, giving the green light only to individual national units. The original program was not implemented; it was cut back in 1924.

With the participation of Mikhail Frunze and thanks to the work of a special commission headed by Felix Dzerzhinsky, it was developed and implemented in 1924–1925. a compromise version of military reform. The radical idea of ​​​​building a militia-national model of the Red Army was abandoned.

At the end of 1924, the Revolutionary Military Council of the USSR adopted a new five-year plan (1924–1929) for the national development of the Red Army. It was based on the principle of unity of the Soviet Armed Forces. Frunze directly pointed out the danger of the tendency to “transform national formations into the core of national armies” and declared the inconsistency of such a position with “the class interests of workers and peasants.” As a result, Trotsky’s plan, dangerous for the young Soviet statehood, was destroyed.

By the spring of 1925, national units accounted for 10% of the strength of the Red Army. These formations were territorial police in composition and 70% consisted of the indigenous population of the national republics and regions of the USSR. By 1928, territorial units made up more than 70% of the rifle troops and 12% of the cavalry of the Red Army.


Trotsky on Red Square (1920s)

To be continued ...
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  1. +5
    18 March 2024 05: 31
    It was noted that national divisions had already been created in Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan, and it was proposed to create one police division each in Belarus and Ukraine.

    By the way, it’s strange, a lot has been written about “Ukrainization” and a lot has been invented, but for some reason, despite all the Ukrainization of national divisions, not a single one has been created...
    1. 0
      18 March 2024 06: 14
      Atamans Angel, Khmara, Zeleny, Likho, Danchenko, Kozyr-Zirka, Polienko, Bidenko, Zhivoder, Savonov, Trepet and many others dreamed of realizing their vision of “will and freedom” in Ukraine. And they created it for themselves.
    2. +2
      18 March 2024 06: 33
      Quote: Vladimir_2U

      By the way, it’s strange, a lot has been written about “Ukrainization” and a lot has been invented, but for some reason, despite all the Ukrainization of national divisions, not a single one has been created...

      The civil war showed that “Petliurism” in Ukraine is fraught with consequences, and a decision was made, as in the tsarist army, to consider the Russians, Ukrainians and Belouss as one nation. They managed to remove Trotsky from the country in time.
      1. +5
        18 March 2024 06: 56
        Quote: carpenter
        The civil war showed that “Petliurism” in Ukraine is fraught with consequences, and a decision was made, as in the tsarist army, to consider the Russians, Ukrainians and Belouss as one nation.

        I always considered “Ukrainization” a forced measure to attract Ukrainian socialists to the fight for the survival of Soviet Russia. And not a measure to combat “Great Russian chauvinism”.

        Because Lenin reproached Stalin and Ordzhonikidze with this “chauvinism”, under the cover of Dzerzhinsky, when they caused a stir in Transcaucasia, including by beating the local “soviet princes” from the national men. lol
      2. +3
        18 March 2024 07: 24
        Quote: carpenter
        They managed to remove Trotsky from the country in time
        And then, just in time, with an ice pick to the head wink
    3. -10
      18 March 2024 07: 58
      Well, finally the topic of inculcating nationalism has come to the fore.
      This is about the constant conversation of “great power chauvinism”, as well as whose Great Patriotic War it was,
      Samsonov should not forget to talk about the famous Panfilov division and its national composition, otherwise there were a lot of lies there.
      With all the differences between the Russian Empire and the Union of Soviet Republics - I’ll omit the socialist ones - this is just a declaration, these two countries strangely had something in common, namely the creation of new peoples and national entities, the same Ukraine and Ukrainians, the creation of the Baltic entities, although the Baltic lands were populated largely by the Russian population.
      -Vilna/Vilnius-free city
      -Riga-etymology/origin of the word barn for sheaves of bread and threshing.
      -Tallinn/distant-Revel -Kolyvan in the past is a Russian city.
      -Rezhekne-Rezhitsa
      The city of Rus is still located in the lower reaches of Memel/Rus
      -Konigsberg-Koroletz
      -Liepaja-Libava/Lubava
      we can talk about the creation of new peoples in the Republic of Ingushetia in the Caucasus and Central Asia.
      -the Cossack people of Cherkasy became -Circassians
      -the people of Kalmyks-Europiodids became Kalmyks-Mongoloids.
      Since the time of Bogdan Khmelnitsky, when the Slavic wars took place, Catholicized Slavic Poles/Polyans and Orthodox Russians and Cossacks living almost throughout Ukraine from Kiev to Crimea along the Dnieper and on the Donets, Kalmius, Don rivers and in the Kuban to the Caucasus on the Terek-Terek Cossacks. These lands belonged to the Cossack people, although official science has stuck its head and does not recognize the Cossacks in any form as a people, small peoples, Circassians, Kalmyk-Mongoloids, Khanty-Mansi are peoples, but the Cossacks with their huge original culture are not a people.
      It would be nice for at least some historian to remember that on the great Slavic Danube River there were also Cossacks Haiduks, which somehow strongly intersects in form with the Haidamaks from the Dnieper.
      There are facts that do not fit into the Olympic Games at all, when the Cossacks sailed the seas on multi-deck ships, because in the Olympic Games the Cossacks had all sorts of seagulls and longboats.
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      1. +1
        18 March 2024 08: 47
        The word Cherkasy comes from the word Circassian. The Kabardian language is different from Russian.
        1. -3
          18 March 2024 08: 49
          How could the Cherkasy originate from the Circassians when the Circassians themselves call themselves Circassians? Yes, and the Cossacks lived - Cherkasy from the Wild Field to the Caucasus, and where did the Circassians live?
          1. +1
            18 March 2024 09: 05
            Cherkasy was first mentioned in 1380. The first Cossack settlements on the Terek appeared in the 14th century.
          2. +7
            18 March 2024 09: 06
            Yes, the Russian land is rich in idiot historians. Read books.
            1. -7
              18 March 2024 09: 10
              How can a non-Russian deon understand the Cherkasy Cossacks?
              1. +3
                18 March 2024 12: 45
                The non-Russian Deon writes Russian better than you, Russian
                1. -3
                  18 March 2024 16: 31
                  Are you talking about Russian, or what?
                  I have already written many times that doubling consonants is fundamentally not in Russian, not in the traditions of our people, but in the traditions of the German people.
                  The Germans are the only ones who have such a letter
                  -ẞ ß [ɛs't͡sɛt] Eszett /s/ heiß Stands in the middle or end of a word and is read as a normal /s/ sound.
                  so this letter is an example of how German pronunciation is double
                  -S s [ɛs] Samuel (before 1934 - Siegfried) /s/, /z/ Bus, sehen
                  turned into one estzet.
                  The double ss was also imposed on the Russians, but the Russians don’t say that
                  -Russian
                  but they say so
                  -Russian
                  without pronouncing double s.
                  so you yourself are not Russian and write according to non-Russian rules.
                  1. 0
                    18 March 2024 17: 43
                    Russia is a Greek word and is spelled with a double "s". And if we follow your rules, then we should return to the time of Monomakh and write without division between words.
                    1. +2
                      18 March 2024 18: 06
                      Etymology
                      Comes from Old Vel.-Russian. Rossіꙗ (from the 1517th century, according to Vasmer for the first time in the Moscow gram. 1720, also by Ivan the Terrible, Avvakum, etc.), from the earlier Rossіꙗ (from the 1387th century to the XNUMXs), both forms were used as synonyms for the word Rus in the combination of all Rus' in the title - initially metropolitan (later patriarchal), then grand ducal (later royal) - along with gradually replaced forms like “Russia, Russia”. Wed. folk Roseya, Rossey from the Old Vel.-Russian. Rossѣꙗ, Rossѣꙗ (from the end of the XNUMXth century). Further from Russian-tslav. Рѡсїа (for the first time in the output record of the southern Slav Metropolitan Cyprian in XNUMX in the combination of allѧ Рѡсїѧ, modern Russian-Cslav. Рѡсїа), from Middle Greek. Ῥωσία 'country of the Ros; Rus; Russian metropolis' (from the XNUMXth century, cf. modern Greek Ρωσία, Ρωσσία, Ρουσία, Ρουσσία 'Russia'), from middle Greek. Ῥῶς (meaning 'dew, Varangians' from the same time), from the same source as Rus'. The Greek form fell into the c.-sl. from the language of the patriarchal office in Constantinople, from where comes the distinction between Μεγάλη Ῥωσία “Great Russia” and Μικρὰ Ῥωσία “Little Russia”.

                      This Wikipedia article does not say that Russia is a Greek word, just as they used the spelling with both one s and two s.
                      1. +2
                        18 March 2024 18: 21
                        and here is an example of Central Greek, this is St. Sophia Tsar Grad
                        mosaic Christ brought good news to Constantine and Zoe.
                        Written by
                        -Zoe nuse vestati augusta

                        very Central Greek especially
                        -unusable-carrying
                        -news-news
                  2. +1
                    18 March 2024 17: 45
                    Yes, it's a tough case. How many floors did the school have?
              2. 0
                18 March 2024 12: 47
                The Russians called the Circassians Kasogs (you can read the chronicles - the duel between Prince Mstislav of Tmutarakan and the Kasog Prince Rededi (1022), in which the Russian prince stabbed him to death, and the Battle of Listven (1024), in which Mstislav’s side included northerners, Kasogs, Khazars, well and the prince’s own squad of Russians).
                Circassians are not a self-name, apparently Greek or someone else’s; it is not surprising that the Russians transferred this name to the Cossacks.
                1. 0
                  18 March 2024 13: 26
                  The name "Circassians" was used by Turkic peoples (mainly Tatars and Turks) as well as Russians. At the turn of the 13th and 14th centuries, in Russian chronicles, instead of “Kasogs,” a new exoethnonym “Circassians” gradually appeared. At the same time, they were also sometimes called by the Turkish name “Cossacks”.
                  According to S. M. Solovyov, the first mention of Cossacks in Rus' occurs at the end of the first half of the 5th century, when in the chronicle “The Tale of Mustafa Tsarevich” [Comm 1444] the Ryazan Cossacks are mentioned, “who came to the aid of the Ryazanians and Muscovites against the Tatar prince Mustafa "at the end of 26[XNUMX].

                  The first Polish information about the Cossacks dates back to 1489. During the campaign of the Polish king Jan-Albrecht against the Tatars, “Christian Cossacks” showed the way to his army in Podolia[27]. In the same year, detachments of atamans Vasily Zhila, Bogdan and Golubets attacked the Tavanskaya crossing in the lower reaches of the Dnieper and, having dispersed the Tatar guards, robbed the merchants[28].


                  The inscription on one of the old Ukrainian paintings with the Cossack Mamai: “I don’t envy anyone - neither the ladies, nor the king. I thank my holy God for everything! Although I’m not famous for my til, I lead a cheerful life, I’m good at my affairs, I won’t be lost.”
                  Another of the first mentions of Cossacks in Polish chronicles dates back to 1493, when Mamai’s descendant, the Cherkassy governor Bogdan Fedorovich Glinsky, nicknamed “Mamai,” formed border Cossack detachments in Cherkassy and captured the Turkish fortress of Ochakov. “Cossack Mamai” has since become a hero of folklore and popular prints of Ukraine and symbolized the Cossacks.
                  Orthodox prince Dmitry Vishnevetsky founded the Sich in 1552 on the island of Khortytsia below the Dnieper rapids, where it has been known ever since.
                  The ancestors of the Don Cossacks were people who fled from the central regions of the Russian state from feudal-serf exploitation to the steppe (“wild field”) and settled on the Don, where in the 15th century. between Azov and the river Medveditsa formed the first settlements of the Cossacks, independent of the central government
                  1. -1
                    18 March 2024 16: 33
                    Cossacks is a Russian word, not a Turkish one, and means
                    -Cossack-showy i.e. Beautiful.
                    1. +1
                      18 March 2024 16: 58
                      The word “Cossack” is of Turkic origin and means “free nomad, free man, vagabond.”
                      1. +3
                        18 March 2024 17: 02
                        There are no Turkic people, there is a group of Turkic peoples speaking Turkic dialects.
                        For which specific Turkic-speaking people is a Cossack a freeman and a vagabond?
                      2. +1
                        18 March 2024 17: 09
                        basics of the Russian language

                        -white-hare
                        -Russian-rusak
                        -left -leftist
                        -smart-smart guy
                        -counselor-leader
                        - single - bachelor
                        -spicy -Cossack
                        -high road
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              3. +1
                18 March 2024 12: 55
                PS I love Russian culture and history very much, but I believe that other peoples (and their history), including those living in Russia, must be treated with respect.
                Moreover, our history is often miraculously intertwined.
                We should try to study it as reliably as possible, and not create some unrealistic historical constructions.
                1. +4
                  18 March 2024 23: 51
                  I love Russian culture and history very much, but I believe that other peoples (and their history), including those living in Russia, must be treated with respect.


                  Respect must be mutual!!!!
                  And if all kinds of foreigners from the Caucasus and Central Asia who have come to the original Russian lands spit on our customs and traditions, then why should the indigenous people tolerate all this “savagery” that is disgusting to the RUSSIAN MAN.
            2. +3
              18 March 2024 09: 32
              The multi-deck Cossack ships should have been mentioned at the beginning so that there was no need to read further.... hi
              1. -1
                19 March 2024 13: 07
                uh, we are all descendants of the Hyperboreans, so it was proven by REN TV))) and multi-deck ships were already a decline, and before that we cut across the sky in vimanas and fought with atomic bombs and magic, the Lemurians will not let you lie))) I swear by my diamond club Indra has not had a century of samadhi see wassat
        2. 0
          18 March 2024 09: 15
          yes, but only the Kabardian-Circassian language is essentially the Adyghe language, which had to be proven.
        3. +2
          18 March 2024 10: 45
          Quote from Deon59
          The word Cherkasy comes from the word Circassian
          There were also Circassians (ethnic group), but there were also Cherkassy Cossacks, who absorbed many peoples, including the Circassians
      2. +2
        18 March 2024 08: 51
        Quote: Trinitrotoluene
        Well, finally the topic of instilling nationalism has come to the fore

        What else can you expect from the right and pseudo-left?
      3. 0
        18 March 2024 09: 39
        And there was also such a banner attributed to Ermak.

        Apparently the Cossacks had not only galleons, but also lions and unicorns.
        1. +3
          18 March 2024 09: 56
          throne of Ivan the Terrible, lion and unicorn
          1. +2
            18 March 2024 10: 00
            And the two-headed eagle, where did you get the idea that the image on the banner is confirmation that the Cossacks sailed on multi-deck ships?
            1. +1
              18 March 2024 10: 03
              Well, yes, but what about when you see the inscription buffalo on a cage with an elephant, then don’t believe your eyes.
              1. +2
                18 March 2024 10: 07
                There is also an inscription there, referring to the Russian Emperor, who had a fleet of battleships.

                By the way, about Ivan the Terrible, he was married to Maria Temryukovna, from the “Cherkasy Pyatigorsk maiden”...
      4. +1
        18 March 2024 09: 59
        Quote: Trinitrotoluene

        Samsonov should not forget to talk about the famous Panfilov division and its national composition, otherwise there were a lot of lies there.

        Yes, I thought about that too. I believe that you can find data on the national level. the composition of the division at the time of its formation and appearance at the front.
        The title of the article does not correspond to its content. The author is reproached for this.
      5. 0
        20 March 2024 08: 39
        And I also laughed at the proto-Ukrainians...
    4. +2
      18 March 2024 19: 05
      There was also a rule according to which at least 75% of Russians had to serve in each military unit.

      Probably Marshal Bagramyan was well aware of this rule, but he made his own amendment.

      but for some reason, despite all the Ukrainization of national divisions, not a single one has been created...

      Maybe because at that time Ukraine was an even bigger “Walk in the Field”?
      And later they couldn’t because of the military reform of 1924-1925.
      While Lenin was in a weakened state, Trotsky tried to push through something of his own, and after the death of the leader, he was no longer allowed to be willful.

      In December 1923, by decision of the Revolutionary Military Council of the USSR, the army switched to the national-territorial principle of recruitment. The reform was carried out under the leadership of the head of the Revolutionary Military Council, Trotsky. Lev Davidovich proposed creating national armies in the republics, which were supposed to make up the allied army. It is obvious that the implementation of such an idea would quickly lead to another turmoil and collapse of the USSR.

      The Bolsheviks, led by Stalin, understood that the national armies would become easy prey for the separatist nationalists. Therefore, Trotsky’s idea of ​​national armies was rejected, giving the green light only to individual national units. The original program was not implemented; it was cut in 1924.

      Well, it turned out that they did the right thing in that he himself was later “cut down” a little in Mexico.
      1. 0
        19 March 2024 03: 50
        Quote: alystan
        and after the death of the leader, he was no longer allowed to be willful.

        Well, very good. My point is that “Ukrainization” was not for the sake of counterbalancing “Great Russian chauvinism.”
    5. +1
      18 March 2024 20: 41
      By the way, it’s strange, a lot has been written about “Ukrainization” and a lot has been invented, but for some reason, despite all the Ukrainization of national divisions, not a single one has been created.

      Because there were no Georgian, Armenian, Azerbaijani divisions, and there were no Ukrainian divisions in the Russian imperial army.
  2. +6
    18 March 2024 05: 57
    small nations progressed at the expense of the resources and personnel of the Russian people
    Everything you need to know about friendship of peoples and internationalism.
    1. 0
      18 March 2024 06: 25
      And what ? Yes, the pro-Soviet people had Friendship of Peoples and progress, but the anti-Soviet people who captured the republics of the USSR had hatred between peoples and total degradation.
      1. -1
        18 March 2024 08: 09
        For “Soviets without Bolsheviks” - the slogan with which the deceived revolutionary sailors marched to Petrograd during the Kronstadt uprising.
        I wonder what the country would be like if the sailors managed to throw the Bolsheviks out of the Soviets?
        1. +3
          18 March 2024 08: 12
          Ha, that's a crazy slogan. If against the Bolsheviks, then for the enemies of the Bolsheviks, who, either in 1917-1922 or after they captured the USSR, only wanted to take the country away from the Bolshevik communists and their supporters, but never intended to do anything useful for the country and the people. And they didn't.
          1. -5
            18 March 2024 08: 18
            There is no need to connect the country, the Soviets and the Bolsheviks. These are different concepts.
            The Soviets are a Russian concept; the Bolsheviks, at their core, are non-Russians.
            If during the Republic of Ingushetia the Russian army courageously fought the Germans on the fronts, then the Bolsheviks, having come to power, immediately arranged a lewd peace with the surrender of Russian land and huge payoffs in gold to the Kaiser. What do you say to this?
            1. +3
              18 March 2024 08: 22
              And why on earth should we associate you, the enemies of the Bolshevik communists and their supporters, with the country and the Soviets, and even with your cowardly “ideology” that you all have “nothing to do” with what you did both under Soviet power and after your capture of the USSR?
              You even blamed the Bolsheviks themselves for the Civil War unleashed by external and internal enemies of the Bolsheviks in order to overthrow the power of the Bolsheviks.
              1. -5
                18 March 2024 08: 46
                probably because the words “Duma” and “council” are Russian words and it was in the Russian collective that it was customary for society to consult, because Russian society has always lived as a community. But the Bolsheviks, with their “Land for the Peasants” and Trotsky-Bronstein chatter for hours, brazenly ingratiated themselves into the trust of the Soviets They deceived the Russian people in the Soviets, which later, when mass Bolshevik repressions began, became clear to everyone.
                Therefore, do not confuse the Soviets and the Bolsheviks and do not use them together.
                1. +4
                  18 March 2024 08: 50
                  Once again, Soviets without the Bolsheviks are Soviets from the enemies of the Bolsheviks, and the enemies of the Bolsheviks did not have any Soviets, just as they did not exist after the capture of the USSR by the enemies of the Bolsheviks, who throughout the 106 years of the Soviet and your anti-Soviet periods never had anything or anyone good for their country and people.
                  1. -3
                    18 March 2024 08: 53
                    the sailors marched with such a slogan, and therefore they were for the Soviets and against the Bolsheviks, that’s exactly how it was a fight for the Soviets.
                    1. +1
                      18 March 2024 08: 55
                      You are invincible. Best wishes .
                    2. +3
                      18 March 2024 09: 09
                      Which of the sailors understood political subtleties? Units! Not only the sailors, but also the peasantry were dissatisfied with the surplus appropriation system, the main motive of discontent in 20, and Lenin and the Bolshevik Party showed flexibility, realizing the deadlock and moved on to big changes in the country, which allowed them to save a little bit of money, let the population breathe and then move on to industrialization.
                      1. 0
                        18 March 2024 09: 29
                        But what’s there to figure out when you see a Jewish face that speaks “against war and eternal peace”, then you know that you are being deceived, there’s no need to figure it out. From the story of Sverdlov-Yankel, how he tried to speak to the workers of one factory, but barely He carried away his legs, because the “illiterate” hard workers rejected the revolutionary so much that he remembered him forever, therefore, when he entered the Bolshevik government, and he was the Small Council of People’s Commissars, Sverdlov ruined a lot of Russian lives.
                        By the way, the Kronstadt uprising occurred in 21, and the Chembarnik uprising in 22. This is according to official history.
                      2. -1
                        18 March 2024 18: 02
                        Well, it was in 19 that Sverdlov received a log on his forehead from railway workers and died from the Spanish flu. And the “red terror” was opened immediately after the murder of Uritsky on August 18, and not after the assassination attempt on Lenin, which occurred on August 30, 18.
                      3. 0
                        18 March 2024 19: 44
                        I have a typo, both attempts on the same day in the morning Uritsky was killed, in the evening of the same day there was an attempt on Lenin.
                      4. +1
                        19 March 2024 00: 15
                        Not only the sailors, but also the peasantry were dissatisfied with the surplus appropriation system, the main motive of discontent in 20, and Lenin and the Bolshevik Party showed flexibility, realizing the deadlock and moved on to big changes in the country.


                        This flexibility is called BOLSHEVISIAN TERROR
                        People don’t like to talk about the peasant revolt of Alexander Antonov in the Tambov region in 1920. After all, units of the Red Army, sent to fight against their own citizens, took part in its suppression.
                        The uprising began with an acute shortage of bread. In 1920, the Tambov region was struck by drought. The harvest turned out to be very small, but the authorities did not want to reduce the volume of surplus appropriation and decided to shift the entire burden of the crop failure onto the peasants. The approaching famine turned out to be the last straw that overflowed the patience of the villagers, and a rebellion broke out in the region. Alexander Antonov stood at the head of the unrest. The most interesting thing is that the leader of the peasant uprising was a professional revolutionary, but not a Bolshevik, but a Socialist Revolutionary.
                        Then forced collectivization and mass extermination of the rural “middle class” of wealthy peasants called DISKULAKIZATION.
                        As a consequence - a terrible famine (HOLODOMOR) and the death of millions of peasants in the early 30s, and the Bolsheviks at that time were transporting grain in trains abroad.....
                        the slogan "BEAT THE JEWS - SAVE RUSSIA" was relevant at all times, both in the harsh 20s and in the dashing 90s, for a reason.....
            2. +1
              18 March 2024 09: 01
              Quote: Trinitrotoluene
              then the Bolsheviks, having come to power, immediately arranged an obscene peace with the surrender of Russian land and huge gold payments to the Kaiser. What do you say to this?

              It was unrealistic to continue the war in the conditions of the revolution and the growing civil war, and you yourself understand this very well. But the Bolsheviks at least concluded a “obscene peace”, and the great Emperor-Princes, beloved by all admirers of the baked goods, dragged the country into an obscene war, killing millions.
              1. -4
                18 March 2024 09: 09
                and no one is for the weak-willed Nicholas and the traitors of the great princes. This non-Russian German clan with their German relatives from Austria-Hungary, Bulgaria, and the Entente here decided to organize a world war for the redivision of the world and worldview.
                You and the rest must understand that on the one hand there are all Russians and on the other hand all non-Russians, then the policy of the tsarist, the provisional government, the Bolsheviks, the Entente and everyone else becomes clear.
            3. +3
              18 March 2024 09: 06
              Who and what led to the collapse of the imperial army? Who drew up and issued the famous order number 1? And what, all the Bolsheviks were not Russians? The Bolsheviks took power against the backdrop of the complete collapse of the army, objectively, at the end of 16 and the beginning of 17, the mass of soldiers began to realize the meaninglessness of the war, some died, became poor, starved, others got rich, fattened, and all this in one country.
              1. -2
                18 March 2024 09: 50
                the fact that all the TROUBLES came, as usual, from above from the “aristocracy”, and in the 80-90s everyone in the party agreed with this. Civil society had to be shaken up, then professional talkers from the Duma and all sorts of party members of the new and old type came to the fore.
                The main backbone of the Bolshevik party is, of course, Russians, because Russians were the majority at that time, but according to the law of “party centralism” - the unconditional fulfillment of all orders of the party leadership, the bulk of the party obeyed the leadership, who were all non-Russians, Lenin, Trotsky, Sverdlov, Stalin, Kamenev, Dzerzhinsky, Lunacharsky, Uritsky and so on.
              2. 0
                18 March 2024 10: 12
                It is noteworthy that at the front during WWI, liberal newspapers with Miliukov’s speech were officially distributed in millions of copies. Stupidity or treason? And also with the information that the Empress and Rasputin are German spies, and everyone is blaming the Bolsheviks for ruining the army. Yeah.
                1. -1
                  19 March 2024 00: 39
                  Stupidity or treason? And also with the information that the Empress and Rasputin are German spies, and everyone is blaming the Bolsheviks for ruining the army. Yeah.

                  The Bolsheviks were the main German spies who carried out the October coup in Russia with German money.
                  The main beneficiary of the shameful “Peace of Brest-Litovsk” was Germany, despite the fact that by the beginning of 18 they managed to occupy part of Russian territories (Polish and Lithuanian lands, as well as the western regions of modern Latvia and Belarus), victory over Russia was not in sight in the near future.
                  Russia paid a huge price for exiting the First World War - territories of up to a million square kilometers with a population of over 56 million people and colossal industrial potential were lost.
                  Ultimately, the point of view of Lenin, who advocated the immediate acceptance of the enemy’s demands in order to save the political regime, prevailed.
                  The Brest-Litovsk Treaty helped the Bolsheviks stay in power, and for this they were ready to pay any price and do anything....
      2. +3
        18 March 2024 08: 55
        Quote: tatra
        Yes, the pro-Soviet people had Friendship of Peoples and progress

        This is what the local princelings want to obscure, disfigure and cut out of history in every possible way, because their power rests only on division.
        1. +3
          18 March 2024 08: 58
          In general, this is some kind of surrealism, the enemies of the USSR, after they captured and dismembered the USSR, having proven that they hate each other, crucify “yes, there was no Friendship of Peoples in the USSR.”
        2. 0
          18 March 2024 09: 15
          Quote: FIR FIR
          Quote: tatra
          Yes, the pro-Soviet people had Friendship of Peoples and progress

          This is what the local princelings want to obscure, disfigure and cut out of history in every possible way, because their power rests only on division.

          Jokes about the Chukchi and Armenians were clearly invented just yesterday.....
        3. 0
          19 March 2024 00: 52
          And the massacre of the Russian population in the Caucasus and Central Asia in the late 80s and early 90s???
          Why are the authorities keeping silent about these events by all means???
          Who was responsible for the death and suffering of millions of Russian people?
          Why should we forget all this EVIL and friendly welcome into Russian cities the children and grandchildren of those bandits who slaughtered Russian families at night, raped Russian women en masse, drove them out of their homes and abused them in every possible way?
          They repented - NO
          They asked for forgiveness for the crimes of their fathers and grandfathers - NO
          They came and imposed their “wild” rules and customs on the Russian people in Russian cities...
          What is this if not GENOCIDE OF THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE?
      3. +3
        18 March 2024 14: 35
        Quote: tatra
        anti-Soviet people who captured the republics of the USSR
        The “invaders” came from somewhere, or is it the party-economic nomenklatura nurtured by the Communist Party, which the “elders” (long-lived Politburo members) shuffled from one leadership post to another, like a deck of cards of “their people”?
      4. +2
        18 March 2024 19: 16
        Quote: tatra
        Yes, the pro-Soviet people had Friendship of Peoples and progress

        Which somehow immediately disappeared.
        Quote: tatra
        and among the anti-Soviet people who captured the republics of the USSR

        That is, the communists.
      5. 0
        18 March 2024 20: 47
        This is just how this author sees the world, everyone has their own shortcomings, and foreign agents have learned to encrypt themselves, but will continue to work for a split.
  3. +3
    18 March 2024 06: 23
    Yes, in general, the national policy of the current government is no different from the policy of the Bolsheviks. In words, one thing is true: in reality, the suppression of the self-awareness of the Russian people.
    1. +3
      18 March 2024 06: 42
      Quote: Grencer81
      In words there is one thing, in reality there is a suppression of the self-awareness of the Russian people.

      Once in all time, only I.V. Stalin remembered with gratitude the Russian people on May 24, 1945 at a reception in the Kremlin in honor of the commanders of the Red Army.

      I drink, above all, for the health of the Russian people because it is the most prominent nation of all the nations that make up the Soviet Union.

      I am making a toast to the health of the Russian people because he deserved general recognition in this war as the leading force of the Soviet Union among all the peoples of our country.

      I make a toast to the health of the Russian people, not only because they are the leading people, but also because they have a clear mind, strong character and patience.
      1. -1
        18 March 2024 10: 06
        Instead of this wonderful toast, one could simply stop subsidizing the union republics at the expense of the RSFSR budget.
      2. +1
        18 March 2024 15: 27
        Quote: carpenter
        Once in all time, only I.V. Stalin remembered with gratitude the Russian people
        If you are reminded of this every holiday, at least, then other peoples, instead of gratitude, will more often think about the second-rate status with which they are loaded. Russians do not need regular boasting, reminders of themselves as the state-forming ethnic group of the empire. We do not have "secondary and tertiary" nations. Each ethnic group in Russia has its own fairy tales, songs and dances and its own history. At this point, the ethnocultural uniqueness of the Russian people passes into the framework of the common Russian civil and political nation. From the outside, we are all called Russians, and among ourselves, Russians do not need to cultivate the consciousness of a special nation, standing above others, or requiring increased political attention from the authorities. This is the essence of our state-forming Russian nation since the times of Kievan Rus, which assimilated into itself both the Polyans and the Drevlyans, as well as other not only Eastern and not only Slavs. And this is the guarantee of the unity of the multinational people of Russia.
    2. +6
      18 March 2024 07: 37
      Well, we have been observing the “self-awareness” of the Russian enemies of the Bolsheviks all 32 years after they captured the RSFSR. All of them cowardly have “nothing to do” with their seizure of the RSFSR, or with what they did to Russia and the Russian people.
      But what do they all have to do with what they got at the expense of Russia and the Russian people, and because of which they all “are now better than in the USSR.”
      And from the Russian that was under the Romanovs and the communists, they left only the Russian language and Orthodoxy.
      1. +1
        18 March 2024 20: 53
        They will tell you that it was the wrong oligarchs who ruled, led by Eltsin, and now the right ones will begin to rule.
  4. -1
    18 March 2024 06: 50
    Quote: Dart2027
    small nations progressed at the expense of the resources and personnel of the Russian people
    Everything you need to know about friendship of peoples and internationalism.

    also about resources and personnel. During the Brezhnev era, for example in the Baltic republics, schools were divided into national ones for the children of local Baltic states and for the children of Russians who moved to the Baltic states. At that time there was no term Russian-speaking in the Baltic states. It didn’t matter where the family lived before - in the Russian Federation or the Belarusian or Armenian SSR - they were all considered Russian. Moreover, the children of the Baltic states were born in the Baltic states, and the children of those who moved from Belarus, Russia or Armenia were also born in the same Baltic states. So, in the last two years, in the high school where Russian boys studied, representatives from the military registration and enlistment offices and from the RONO came several times to explain about higher military schools and the profession of an SA officer, about the conditions for admission, etc. But there have never been such “comings” to schools with “national applicants”. That is, the defense of the USSR also took place at the expense of the Russian people, because there is no army without officers to defend the country. Yes, serve as a conscript for two or three years and that’s it. Let him think about the main task of defending the Motherland, let him try, and let Russians and Russian-speaking people work, as they would say today, using their national resources to grow the most important link in the defenders of the Motherland - officers. And among the native Baltic people, an SA or Navy officer was almost a museum rarity... This is such “friendship of peoples with internationalism”
    1. +4
      18 March 2024 10: 14
      Quote: north 2
      And among the native Baltic people, an SA or Navy officer was almost a museum rarity... This is such “friendship of peoples with internationalism”

      At the suggestion of J. Kalnberzin and V. Latsis, Stalin agreed to create Latvian national units, which, as the 201st Latvian
      rifle divisions were included in the North-Western Front. The first part of the division consisted of almost 70% volunteers. Latvian units participated in the defense of Moscow.
      Latvian military units took part in the battles in the Velikie Luki region and in the liberation of Latvia.
      For participation in the operations to liberate Daugavpils and Riga, the Latvian Rifle Corps was awarded the Order of Suvorov, II degree.
      Latvians who fought in the ranks of the Red Army during the Great Patriotic War served not only in its Latvian national formations. They took part in battles on many sectors of the front stretching over several thousand kilometers. A number of Latvians were, in particular, among the senior commanders of the Red Army, who headed armies, corps, divisions and brigades. Some of them were awarded the title of Hero of the Soviet Union.
      Thus, Major General E.Ya. Magon (Magone) commanded the 45th Rifle Corps of the 13th Army. He died the death of a hero in one of the battles in the Mogilev region.
      Colonel General M.A. Reiter commanded the 20th Army. Then he was the commander of the Bryansk Front, and subsequently commanded the troops of the Steppe, then the South Ural Military District."

      My father, a naval officer, had two Latvian friends, both served on a submarine, and the chief of staff was Georgian. When we moved to Bolshoy Kamen, more than half of the officers there were Ukrainians, and there were also Armenians and Latvians. Everyone behaved in a manner worthy of their uniform; I never heard swearing or even any hint of a national issue. All were citizens of one great country.
  5. -4
    18 March 2024 07: 03
    ".... And the infidel Tatar elder reproaches me, but I endure it..." Wouldn't that be a good epigraph?

    Under the tsars, Russians did not understand nationality at all, and the Russian nobles reduced their policy to the fact that they put Germans in power. The concept of “nation” appeared only in the 19th century. These nobles simply did not know that it was their policy, called the word “national”.

    And only Russian heroes Yeltsin, Gaidar and Chubais they convinced the Russians that they had nothing to feed non-Russians laughing
    1. -3
      18 March 2024 07: 38
      The German princess Sophia-Frederica of Anhalt-Zerbst, who is better known as Catherine the Great, did much more for Russia than some native Rurikovichs.
      1. +1
        18 March 2024 07: 55
        The Georgian Stalin, under whose command the aforementioned “Russian patriot” Bagramyan served, also did a lot.

        But the Russian people's favorite Yeltsin left everyone far behind, including the Rurikovichs, no matter what they did...
        1. 0
          18 March 2024 09: 59
          Quote: ivan2022
          The Georgian Stalin, under whose command the aforementioned “Russian patriot” Bagramyan served, also did a lot.

          When the touched Marshal of the Armored Forces Pavel Rybalko approached Stalin: “What you, Comrade Stalin, said wonderfully about the Russian people! ... Stalin angrily replied: ''I am not Georgian - I am Russian of Georgian origin!''
      2. +10
        18 March 2024 08: 00
        We must not forget that I did a fair amount of shit. One decree “On the granting of liberty and freedom to the entire Russian nobility” laid a mine under the further development of Russia worse than any Bolsheviks. The country's progressive backwardness in the 19th century is her doing. So, it’s not as great as they like to present to us...
        1. -2
          18 March 2024 08: 05
          And what kind of mine did the Bolsheviks lay for the further development of Russia? The Russian Federation is 90% the same Republic of Ingushetia, but in the Republic of Ingushetia, unlike the Russian Federation, although there were a really large number of smart, talented, great people who brought great benefit and glory to Russia,
          1. +4
            18 March 2024 08: 07
            Yes, I’m just quoting our no-alternative... For him, either the Bolsheviks or the Polovtsians and the Pechenegs are always to blame for everything..
            1. +1
              18 March 2024 11: 35
              "How does the Prophetic Oleg gather now,
              Take revenge on the foolish Khazars,
              When suddenly a man runs up to him,
              Besides, it reeks of fumes..."
          2. -1
            18 March 2024 19: 18
            Quote: tatra
            And what kind of mine did the Bolsheviks lay for the further development of Russia?

            National politics and an attempt to build a utopia.
        2. 0
          18 March 2024 08: 10
          Yes, this “Mother Catherine” quartered Pugachev right in the spirit of Teutonic traditions.... So to speak, “laid the foundations”, which Hitler later recalled with pleasure. When he claimed that only under the Germans did the Russians have order
          1. +5
            18 March 2024 10: 03
            In the spirit of tradition, Stenka Razin was quartered, but Pugacheva, in violation of customs, was immediately beheaded.
          2. +1
            18 March 2024 10: 35
            So to speak, “laid the foundations”
            Alexey Mikhailovich apparently had German roots... First, they tried to convince Boyarina Morozova of her loyalty to the Old Believers by torture on the rack, and then they burned her in a log house, Razin was quartered with his brother Frol, later they did not torture her, they immediately cut off her wild little head.
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              1. +4
                18 March 2024 11: 16
                Rurikovich from the Varangians
                The Romanovs are somehow not from the Rurikovichs.
            2. -2
              18 March 2024 11: 20
              Quote: kor1vet1974
              So to speak, “laid the foundations”
              Alexey Mikhailovich apparently had German roots... First, they tried to convince Boyarina Morozova of her loyalty to the Old Believers by torture on the rack, and then they burned her in a log house, Razin was quartered with his brother Frol, later they did not torture her, they immediately cut off her wild little head.
              What are you talking about? An obsessive desire to “refute”?
              But does this cancel the Teutonic traditions? Or do you think that Catherine had Russian roots?
              I believe that the Russians have “cultivated themselves”, so to speak, by adopting the customs of the West from the Rurikovichs.. For Fr. Although Nestor called the Drevlyans “beasts,” he did not do so because of their cruelty.

              The next time you decide to refute, first think about why..... laughing?
              1. +2
                18 March 2024 12: 14
                laughing And what does Alexey Mikhailovich Romanov and Teutonic traditions have to do with it? And in my commentary, I’m not writing about Catherine II; in fact, where did you see a refutation of your comment? In my commentary about how Morozova, the noblewoman and the Razin brothers were executed. laughingIf you write insults it will be very original. hi
            3. 0
              18 March 2024 11: 37
              And at the same time Mikhalych had the nickname “The Quietest”...)))
              Quiet guy...)))
          3. -2
            18 March 2024 11: 36
            Should it have been impaled, in the best traditions of Ivan the Terrible?)))
            1. +1
              18 March 2024 12: 18
              Why? To understand and forgive in the best traditions of Orthodoxy, but to burn in a log house?
        3. 0
          18 March 2024 11: 32
          Actually, the decree “On granting liberty to the nobility” belongs to Pavel Petrovich. Catherine merely confirmed its legality.
          1. +2
            18 March 2024 11: 56
            Yes, everything is in the courses, actually... But he received confirmation, and most importantly, practical implementation, already under Catherine.
            1. ANB
              +1
              18 March 2024 22: 03
              . Yes, everything is in the courses actually

              Uh. It is, of course, in the courses. But Pavel Petrovich could not issue a decree, which his mother was able to develop. It was the pope who issued the decree. And the widow confirmed it. Since she had no other options.
        4. -1
          18 March 2024 18: 15
          Yes, this backward German princess was grateful to the backward Russian nobility for making her a Russian empress and making Russia richer and stronger. Slacker. wink
        5. 0
          22 March 2024 15: 07
          This is still our everything - Alexander Sergeevich noted. Reading A.S. Pushkin "On Russian history of the 18th century."
          The reign of Catherine II had a new and strong influence on the political and moral state of Russia. Enthroned by the conspiracy of several rebels, she enriched them at the expense of the people and humiliated our restless nobility. If to reign means to know the weakness of the human soul and to use it, then in this regard Catherine deserves the surprise of posterity. Her splendor dazzled, her friendliness attracted, her generosity attracted. The very voluptuousness of this cunning woman asserted her dominion. Producing a weak murmur among the people, accustomed to respecting the vices of their rulers, it aroused vile competition in the highest states, for no intelligence, no merit, no talent was needed to achieve second place in the state. There were many called and many chosen; but in the long list of her favorites, doomed to the contempt of posterity, the name of the strange Potemkin will be marked by the hand of history. He shared with Catherine part of her military glory, for we owe him the Black Sea and brilliant, albeit fruitless, victories in northern Turkey.

          Humiliated Sweden and destroyed Poland, these are Catherine’s great rights to the gratitude of the Russian people. But over time, history will evaluate the influence of her reign on morals, will reveal the cruel activity of her despotism under the guise of meekness and tolerance, the people oppressed by governors, the treasury plundered by lovers, will show her important mistakes in political economy, insignificance in legislation, disgusting buffoonery in relations with philosophers her centuries - and then the voice of the seduced Voltaire will not save her glorious memory from the curse of Russia.

          We have seen how Catherine humiliated the spirit of the nobility. Her favorites zealously helped her in this matter. It is worth recalling the slaps in the face that they generously distributed to our princes and boyars, about Potemkin’s glorious receipt, kept to this day in one of the official places of the state, about Count Zubov’s monkey, about Prince Kutuzov’s coffee pot, and so on. and so on.

          Catherine knew the tricks and robberies of her lovers, but remained silent. Encouraged by such weakness, they did not know the limits of their greed, and the most distant relatives of the temporary worker greedily took advantage of his short reign. From here came these huge estates of completely unknown families and a complete lack of honor and honesty in the upper class of the people. From the chancellor to the last protocol officer, everything was stolen and everything was corrupt. Thus, the depraved empress corrupted her state as well..
      3. +6
        18 March 2024 10: 23
        Quote: Grencer81
        The German princess Sophia-Frederica of Anhalt-Zerbst, who is better known as Catherine the Great, did much more for Russia than some native Rurikovichs.

        Enlightened absolutism... Never before have the nobles reveled so much in permissiveness and absolute power over the “rabble.” The peasant's rights were somewhere between a yard dog and a sheep in the herd.
        1. +2
          18 March 2024 11: 28
          There was a huge difference between the peasant farmer and the courtyard people. It was the latter who were put up for sale. In addition, the bulk of the peasants were state-owned, that is, they belonged to the monarch.
          1. +1
            18 March 2024 11: 55
            Quote: Grencer81
            In addition, the bulk of the peasants were state-owned, that is, they belonged to the monarch.

            By the second half of the 19th century, the landowners owned almost twice as many peasants as the monarch. In the 18th century it was almost equal.
            1. 0
              18 March 2024 21: 51
              Quote: Doccor18
              Quote: Grencer81
              In addition, the bulk of the peasants were state-owned, that is, they belonged to the monarch.

              By the second half of the 19th century, the landowners owned almost twice as many peasants as the monarch. In the 18th century it was almost equal.

              Did the landowners' peasants reproduce faster?
              1. 0
                19 March 2024 06: 07
                Monarchs gave estates to their favorites left and right. And the peasants relied on their estates...
                1. 0
                  19 March 2024 09: 25
                  Alexander the First and Nicholas the First curtailed this practice. Under these two emperors, the percentage of landowner peasants declined sharply. At the time of the abolition of serfdom, landowner peasants accounted for a little more than 40 percent of the total number of Kremtians.
            2. 0
              22 March 2024 15: 16
              Quote: Doccor18
              By the second half of the 19th century, the landowners owned almost twice as many peasants as the monarch. In the 18th century it was almost equal.
              Precisely in the second half of the 19th century, the landowners owned almost twice as many peasants as the monarch? Right here :
              https://www.demoscope.ru/weekly/2012/0493/nauka03.php
              other information.
              In addition, in addition to the state ones, there were peasants:
              - appanage (appanages of the great princes, essentially the same as state ones);
              - peasants of various departments (since the departments are state, these peasants are also state).
              There were still free peasants from the Baltic provinces and Bessarabia on the land of the landowners...
          2. 0
            19 March 2024 15: 31
            There were state peasants, and there were appanage peasants. The latter belonged to the royal dynasty. The situation of both state and appanage peasants was generally much better compared to the landowner peasants. And among the landowner peasants, the best position was for those who belonged to large landowners. The most cruel exploiters were the minor nobles.
  6. +3
    18 March 2024 08: 28
    By the beginning of the 29th century, only 18% of the personnel were Austro-Germans, XNUMX% were Hungarians, the rest were various Slavs, Romanians, Italians, etc.
    What are Romanians and Italians like at the beginning of the 20th century?! And what kind of "Austro-Germans" are they? - there were simply Germans, and throughout the entire territory of the Empire. The article is complete abra-kadabra, in terms of historical examples. Napoleon had a bunch of ethnic formations, right up to the Mamelukes under Austerlitz. The British have German regiments, the royal France have Irish and Scottish + Swiss Guards, the Spaniards have Irish and Walloon regiments, etc. The author pulls an owl onto the globe
    1. 0
      19 March 2024 15: 36
      In Austria-Hungary, in its Hungarian part, Transleithania, many Romanians actually lived. To be more precise, about a million. After all, Transylvania was then part of Hungary. And the Italians were there too, on the territory of Cisleithania. There were 350 thousand of them.
  7. +3
    18 March 2024 08: 35
    In particular, it carried out the “Ukrainization” of military formations on the territory of the former Little Russia.
    Is this the cavalry division of the Red Cossacks? The 1st Ukrainian Insurgent Division under the command of N. G. Krapivyansky and other units that were formed according to the orders of the All-Ukrainian Central Military Revolutionary Committee? Does the author consider this to be the Ukrainization of the Red Army?
  8. 0
    18 March 2024 10: 51
    One can argue on some issues, of course... But yes, the core of all armies is usually a state-forming nation or, as an option, a community of nationalities that consider themselves one nation. There are many examples. There are nuances, but these are questions of technology, not principles...
  9. +1
    18 March 2024 17: 39
    Frunze directly pointed out the danger of the tendency to “transform national formations into the core of national armies” and declared the inconsistency of such a position with “the class interests of workers and peasants.” As a result, Trotsky’s plan, dangerous for the young Soviet statehood, destroyed.
    It is unclear what sources the author used.

    Who destroyed it, when?
    20.05.25/XNUMX/XNUMX a five-year program for the construction of national units and formations was adopted, which was successfully completed to 1929
    With the participation of Mikhail Frunze and thanks to the work of a special commission headed by Felix Dzerzhinsky, it was developed and implemented in 1924–1925. a compromise version of military reform. They moved away from the radical idea of ​​​​building a militia-national model of the Red Army.
    Who went away, where did they go?
    The territorial police construction of the Red Army existed even in the early 30s.
    At least that’s what the authors of the two-volume book Bicentennial of the Military Ministry, published by the Russian Research Center of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, think.

    The author has undertaken to carry a burden that is clearly too much for him to carry; simple copy-paste cannot do here; it is necessary to evaluate and analyze the sources used
  10. -1
    18 March 2024 19: 32
    The article from beginning to end is the ravings of a madman. The question of military victories is a question of weapon technology and the quality of command. The strongest army at the moment is the US army, consisting of different nationalities and races. Americans have the best military technology and excellent military discipline. It's not a matter of nationality at all.
    1. +2
      18 March 2024 21: 56
      Quote: Türkiye
      The article from beginning to end is the ravings of a madman. The question of military victories is a question of weapon technology and the quality of command. The strongest army at the moment is the US army, consisting of different nationalities and races. Americans have the best military technology and excellent military discipline. It's not a matter of nationality at all.

      and Afghan “slippers” are against am
  11. +1
    18 March 2024 21: 02
    The reform was carried out under the leadership of the head of the Revolutionary Military Council, Trotsky. Lev Davidovich proposed creating national armies in the republics, which were supposed to form the allied army. It is obvious that the implementation of such an idea would quickly lead to another turmoil and collapse of the USSR.
    I wonder what source the author took this from?
    The fact is that Trotsky in the 20s was quite deservedly called the father of the Red Army.
    But when Stalin began to spread rot on him and eventually kicked Trotsky’s name out of the USSR, they began to systematically erase him from the history of the spacecraft, at the same time indiscriminately attributing some kind of negativity to him.
    And by the end of the 30s, propaganda had done its job, people had often forgotten about his role in creating the army.

    And in 1939 Voroshilov already wrote:
    Stalin is an international name that has become the banner of the struggle for the great ideals of humanity.

    Along with this, this is the name of the Red Army. The armed defense of victorious socialism, the construction of the Red Army of the Soviet Union, its history, its strength and power, its united and steely ranks, its equipment and heroic personnel are inextricably linked with the name of Stalin.

    It is impossible to separate the history and construction of the armed forces of the Soviet state from Stalin. You can’t talk and write about Stalin without talking and writing about the heroic history and heroic battles of the Red Army, just as you can’t talk and write about the Red Army without talking and writing about Stalin, who, in close collaboration with Lenin, forged its foundations at the cradle of its birth.

    About Stalin, creator of the Red Army, its inspirer and organizer of victories, the author of the laws of strategy and tactics of the proletarian revolution - many volumes will be written.
    And during the time of Khrushchev, Stalin was already removed from fatherhood - this is how the history of our country was constantly rewritten
    1. +1
      18 March 2024 22: 31
      So now everything that relates to the Soviet period is carefully erased from history.
  12. +1
    19 March 2024 15: 39
    Tatars and Bashkirs were subject to universal conscription in the Russian Empire, although they were predominantly Muslim peoples. The point is probably that they have long been integrated into Russian society, unlike the recently annexed Muslims of Turkestan and the Caucasus.
  13. 0
    24 March 2024 10: 54
    Which one. “At that time, the Russian super-ethnos was not yet divided into Russians (Great Russians), Ukrainians-Little Russians and Belarusians.” What kind of super-ethnos is this then, if it is a Russian polyethnonym? Another article from America?
  14. 0
    24 March 2024 10: 55
    Quote: Sergej1972
    Tatars and Bashkirs were subject to universal conscription in the Russian Empire, although they were predominantly Muslim peoples. The point is probably that they have long been integrated into Russian society, unlike the recently annexed Muslims of Turkestan and the Caucasus.

    It doesn't matter to the author. The article was not prepared. Foreign agent, minimum
  15. 0
    24 March 2024 10: 57
    Quote: Cartalon
    In the spirit of tradition, Stenka Razin was quartered, but Pugacheva, in violation of customs, was immediately beheaded.

    Quartered in Russian?