A scandal erupts in Belgium over hazing in the army

According to the Belgian newspaper De Morgen, a major scandal is breaking out in the country due to the revelation of inappropriate cases in the Belgian army.

According to the publication, the head of the Belgian Ministry of Defense, Ludivine Dedonder, and the Chief of the General Staff, Michel Hofmann, are even planning to hold an urgent press conference on this matter.

The scandal is related to the situation in the 4th engineering battalion of the Belgian army, stationed in the commune of Ame near Liege.

An internal investigation found appalling conditions including abuse of power, violence and inappropriate sexual behavior.

- writes De Morgen, citing an unnamed source.

Up to 30 military personnel, including officers, non-commissioned officers and privates, were involved in hazing. According to the newspaper, about ten people were removed from duty, and one platoon was even disbanded.

The publication’s source said that the investigation into these abuses in the service has been going on for several months, but the cases themselves obviously have a long history history. It is noted that mutual responsibility existed in the engineering battalion for a long time.

So far, official representatives of the Belgian Ministry of Defense have not commented on this situation, but, probably, something will become clearer during the planned press conference.

The Belgian military themselves say that cases of hazing have become more frequent. We are talking, among other things, about assault against junior ranks, the use of alcohol and illegal drugs during combat duty.

Comments

[SS68SS]

Up to 30 military personnel were involved in hazing

“It is noted that mutual responsibility existed in the engineering battalion for a long time.”


Are LGBT people having their rights violated? Or vice versa....

[Fatalist]

There are about 200 thousand of them there. Let them decompose slowly.)

[Lev_Russia]

The army is nothing at all, some 30 thousand, so these “half-French” managed to arrange Sodom and Gomorrah... Old Europe is rotting... Rotting on the vine... This is where the collapse of the Roman Empire once began...

[HAM]

Who will pay attention to straight people? Of course, “these” were offended.....

[knn54]

What do they care about the hussars?
The first day. Arrived for maneuvers. We drink champagne, we love girls.
Second day. We've spent some money, we drink vodka, we love the ladies.
Day three. This is where it started...
Although
-The scandal is related to the situation in the 4th engineer battalion
Perhaps they drank everything that burned, loved everything that moved...

[I dare to_notice_]

-The scandal is related to the situation in the 4th engineer battalion
Perhaps they drank everything that burned, loved everything that moved...
Will there be dozers and a bridge laying machine?!..

[knn54]

-Dozers and a bridge laying machine?!..
Local farmers complained that horses refused to approach horses, bulls refused to approach cows...

[Alf]

Quote: I dare_notice_

loved everything that moves...
Will there be dozers and a bridge laying machine?!..

Oooh, Monsieur, a refined connoisseur!

[alystan]

Strange news delivery. What a mutual responsibility, there is pure banal hushing up of problems.

This is what the website www.rtl.be writes.

The Ministry of Defense reported the disbandment of a platoon of about thirty people, which was marked by acts of violence and humiliating rituals associated with the initiation of new recruits.

According to preliminary information, the facts indicated in the article took place in 2021, during the period of preparation and training. Some military personnel have already been fired, others have been transferred to other units. The final disciplinary action will depend on the progress of the initiated investigation - administrative and judicial.

And most likely we are talking about the facts of army hazing in Belgian style, with deviations inherent in European citizens. Which became known to the media and the public, and the military only had to react to these manifestations.

In all the armies of the world and probably at all times, in addition to the officially accepted military rituals, there were and are their own separate traditions, which are “carefully” preserved from generation to generation and are celebrated with special care. Among which, for example, there are the “quirks” of old-time demobilized soldiers. In the modern Russian army, these are considered to be military personnel, (???) who served more than six months of their term.

Today's "grandfathers" (most likely) require compliance with such a long-standing tradition as "one hundred days before the order." True, even “a week before the order” would have been enough for these “grandfathers.”

Did this photo remind anyone of anything?

[Msi]

inappropriate sexual behavior

Everything is clear... Someone refused to give up their ass... Fire...

[Alf]

Quote from Msi

Someone refused to give up his ass... Fire him...

The one who refused or the one who demanded?

[Msi]

The one who refused or the one who demanded

Drive both... Uncoordinated actions are dangerous in the army...

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

"Inappropriate sexual behavior" -

— It’s scary to think what kind of “sexual behavior” is considered “unacceptable” in Europe...

[Petr_Koldunov]

Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov

— It’s scary to think what kind of “sexual behavior” is considered “unacceptable” in Europe...

This is when a soldier says: “I want a woman. A white, heterosexual woman, without a disability...”

[Machito]

Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov

"Inappropriate sexual behavior" -

— It’s scary to think what kind of “sexual behavior” is considered “unacceptable” in Europe...

Unacceptable sexual behavior of a Belgian soldier is a refusal to cut a thread on the buttocks.

[Mouse]

violence and inappropriate sexual behavior

The rod of everyone who turns up first?

[Smoked]

Well, most likely the rituals of modern army cretins of 20-30 years old have become more sexualized. There is no point in grumbling because even without an army, modern moral standards are visible in the world as a whole.
Let’s say a movie about “the coolest military men in the world.”

I want to upset you. Our people also see this and it will affect them too.

[lexat7]

Aha everyone who moves, and everyone who doesn’t move, is pushed and pushed

[Mouse]

Regardless of ranks and regalia....

[Petr_Koldunov]

A scandal is breaking out in Belgium over hazing in the army...

So what exactly? Do they bang right on the parade ground during formation? Well, the European troops... on the contrary, the authorities should encourage them.

[rotmistr60]

horrific conditions including abuse of power, violence and inappropriate sexual behavior

Ay, yay, yay, and this is in the Belgian army (25 thousand people), which is considered a prosperous European country. We are relaxed, there is no control and there is general confusion and vacillation, this is how a Soviet company sergeant would characterize the state of affairs. After which he began to lead the unit “to normal combat” according to the principle - it doesn’t come through the head, it will come through the legs.

[Fitter65]

investigation revealed appalling conditions, including abuse of power, violence and inappropriate sexual behavior

How is that? The blue ones were not blue, but pestered people from the “pink coalition”? Although the definition inappropriate sexual behavior for the current Geyropa can only mean one thing, they are divided into men and women, which is a crime for the EU.

[Junior Private]

Like all normal people, I worry about all of Belgium. Freedom for Flanders! She must be independent!

[Dutchman Michel]

Quote: Junior Private

Freedom for Flanders!

But I believe that, first of all, freedom must be given to Valonia! Do you have any objections?

[Junior Private]

What objections can I have if I am always for European Democracy? And because of the lack of freedom in Wallonia, I did not sleep last night.

[Russ]

This is not the Belgian army, but the Blue Oyster bar.....

[YOU]

about the use of alcohol and illegal drugs during combat duty.

An interesting interpretation of “during combat duty,” but after that you can expand. And if it starts to break it in the database. Yes, there is also “inappropriate sexual behavior.” They organized a homosexual coven, and now they are surprised where everything comes from.

[Zaurbek]

It was their Arabs and blacks who probably joined the army.

[Dutchman Michel]

Let's hope that the virus will continue to spread to other NATO member countries. Just the new members, Sweden and Finland, will catch up

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

inappropriate sexual behavior

and what does this mean in the concept of today's sexual traditions in Europe?!

[bone1]

The construction battalion is resting, and the Belgians are still climbing somewhere

[opposite28]

An internal investigation found appalling conditions including abuse of power, violence and inappropriate sexual behavior.

- writes De Morgen, citing an unnamed source.

Just daily activities. It’s even scary to imagine what will happen in the Belgian army during high-intensity combat operations, much like in (in) Ukraine.