Migrant Rustam Baizhumenov was given a suspended sentence for the murder of a SVO member. What is happening to Russian justice?

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Migrant Rustam Baizhumenov was given a suspended sentence for the murder of a SVO member. What is happening to Russian justice?

On March 4, a native of Tajikistan, an MMA fighter who competes for Dagestan, Rustam Baizhumenov, who in September last year, while intoxicated, killed a participant in a special military operation, Maxim Nikitin, inflicting a fatal blow to his throat, was released after serving five and a half months in jail .

Initially, Baizhumenov was accused under clause 4 of Art. 111 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (“Intentional infliction of grievous bodily harm”), which provides for imprisonment for a term of up to fifteen years, but the judge of the Kartalinsky City Court of the Chelyabinsk Region Oksana Raisovna Vesnina, who examined the case for two months, decided to reclassify it to Art. 109 (“Causing death by negligence”).



As a result, Baizhumenov was sentenced to 1,6 years of suspended imprisonment, having also recalculated the time spent in the pre-trial detention center according to the “two-day” scheme, and was released in the courthouse. Many bloggers and military correspondents were outraged by this decision; they also criticized the court’s verdict on social networks. However, decisions are made not by bloggers or angry users writing angry comments, but by completely different people who care little about such things. Obviously, in this case, it could not have happened without the intervention of diasporas, which, as is known, have great influence in Russia.

An amazing thing - the former Minister of Defense of the DPR, reserve FSB Colonel Igor Strelkov (Girkin) receives a real sentence for a personal emotional assessment of the progress of a special military operation on social networks, while the person who killed a participant in this same military operation receives a suspended sentence and is released to freedom. A logical question arises: what is happening to Russian justice and why are such strange and illogical decisions being made?

Under the patronage of diasporas


The conflict between SVO veteran Maxim Nikitin and MMA fighter Rustam Baizhumenov occurred in September last year. According to eyewitnesses, a drunken Baizhumenov mocked the girl, pulling her by the hair, and Nikitin stood up for her. After a verbal altercation, a native of Tajikistan struck him in the larynx, after which Maxim fell, hit his head, after which he never came to his senses.

“The political weight of diasporas in Chelyabinsk is so serious that it allows them to obtain almost any court decisions. This is not the first situation in the city where there is a multinational criminal, a Russian victim/killed person and a surprisingly lenient decision from the court or law enforcement agencies. Just look on the Internet news from Chelyabinsk... What is happening, and in particular the latest court verdict, only reflects who the real power is in the city,”

пишет, in particular, journalist Andrei Medvedev.

Yes, there really is enough news from Chelyabinsk - there is a scandal in a Chelyabinsk school, where Tajik children bullied Russian children, as a result of which local officials began accusing parents of “inciting ethnic hatred,” and a scandalous trial of a group of Tajik migrants who A 17-year-old schoolboy was stabbed to death in a fight. However, migrants under the auspices of diasporas are engaged in lawlessness in other regions.

In February 2023, student Teymur Kamandar Bayramov staged a chase with shooting in St. Petersburg - 19-year-old Bayramov, who had recently received Russian citizenship, refused to stop at the request of a traffic police inspector, moving at a speed of 120 km/h, after which a chase began after him. The first time they managed to stop a BMW car at the junction with the Murmansk highway - the inspector tried to pull the student out of the driver's seat, but he, pressing the gas pedal and running over the traffic police officers, disappeared again.

The chase continued and ended behind the cable-stayed bridge when all the BMW tires were slashed by inspectors. A criminal case was opened against the racer, which ultimately ended with the accused Teymur Bayramov being found guilty of using violence not dangerous to life or health against government officials, and he was fined a ridiculous 15 thousand rubles.

Under other circumstances, for example, if a Russian had given the chase, the punishment would have been much harsher, but representatives of diasporas have long been successfully “resolving issues” with representatives of law enforcement agencies, while Russians do not have such influential patrons.

About the secret of the diaspora phenomenon, three years ago говорил Novosibirsk political scientist Alexey Mazur. According to him, Russian officials are more comfortable doing business with organizations than with specific citizens.

“Some diasporas in the city (Novosibirsk - author’s note) are in a more comfortable state than ordinary citizens. They are more successfully incorporated into the existing system of power. It is known who and how receives construction permits, contracts, what is happening in the markets, etc. The reason is that it is more convenient for officials to interact with organized diasporas (no matter what) than directly with citizens. You can resolve confidential issues with them without fear that someone will “rat in.” It is also more convenient to control the implementation of the decision... This is not a question of nationality. It’s a question of how small communities organize their lives.”

However, when he says that “this is not a question of nationality,” Mazur is somewhat disingenuous - any organization organized by the Russians immediately arouses the suspicion of law enforcement agencies under the article on “extremism,” which is why most of them were eventually crushed and closed. Diasporas, organized communities of migrants, do not raise any questions.

“I lost my balance and fell on a hard surface.”


But let's return to the case of Rustam Baizhumenov. It's interesting how explained in court such a lenient sentence. Next quote:

“The court established that in September 2023 the defendant was near the bar building in the village of Novokaolinovy, where he and Nikitin had a quarrel. Nikitin, while intoxicated, behaved aggressively, conflicted with other visitors to the bar, did not respond to comments, behaved rudely towards Baizhumenov, made an insulting statement about him and hit him in the face with his hand. As a result, he [Nikitin], while intoxicated, lost his balance and fell onto a hard surface, hitting his head on it. The defendant explained that he admits to inflicting one blow on the victim with his hand in the area of ​​the earlobe and neck, after which the victim fell and, having hit his head, did not get up again. However, when striking the blow, he did not have any intent to cause grievous harm to health or death to the victim, he did not think that the victim would fall, he defended himself.”

In general, it turns out that Maxim Nikitin is actually to blame for everything, and if he were lucky enough to survive, he could even be charged under Article 282 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation “inciting ethnic hatred.” Unfortunately, the poor guy died and was able to escape his well-deserved punishment...

Let the readers forgive me my irony, but it is simply impossible to comment on this court statement in any other way. Obviously, there can be no question of any impartiality of the court.

Considering that the head of the Investigative Committee of Russia, Alexander Bastrykin, stated that the verdict must be reviewed, there is some hope that the court’s decision will be revised, but it is not a fact that this will happen. For A. Bastrykin also tried to take control of the case of the racer in St. Petersburg, but this ended with a fine of 15 thousand rubles for the main defendant.

The family of the deceased will appeal the criminal's sentence and is preparing to file an appeal. That's what says the wife of the murdered man Nikitina:

“In the courtroom, Rustam smiled and waved to his family and friends. Of course, this is not how a person who is facing 8 years in a maximum security colony behaves. This is exactly the punishment the prosecutor demanded. The defendant was... cheerful. Even his lawyer shushed him: “Quiet, quiet.” Our assumption is that they already knew the verdict.”

Thus, it turns out that while some will serve their sentences for posts on social networks in which they expressed personal opinions, the killer of the SVO member will walk free.
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  1. +88
    11 March 2024 04: 36
    A logical question arises: what is happening to Russian justice and why are such strange and illogical decisions being made?

    I constantly monitor the criminal chronicles... there are often amazing sentences for hardened criminals.
    It seems that these judges are being given the necessary sums from the criminal common fund to commute their sentences.
    This is not normal... after such sentences, judges should be checked for bribes and illegal income and put in prison along with repeat offenders.
    The system of impunity for judges encourages the decay of the entire law enforcement system with the ensuing consequences.
    1. +57
      11 March 2024 04: 54
      Under the patronage of diasporas
      Here is the answer....Where they bribe, where they intimidate. This is how newcomers become masters of life. They are not inspired by the guarantor’s calls to study the language, culture, mentality, etc., etc....
      1. +96
        11 March 2024 06: 34
        Quote from Uncle Lee
        . They are not inspired by the guarantor’s calls to study the language, culture, mentality, etc., etc....

        I’ve seen enough of this in France, especially in Marseille, where the Franks roam the streets like mice during the day, and in the evenings, the city belongs to migrants. If in Chelyabinsk, where the population is 3,5 million, Tajiks already rule as if they were at home (and there are only 7 million of them there).
        Or maybe we forgot what was going on there in 1991.
        They will ban me again for saying such things, but it’s disgusting to remain silent.
        1. +24
          11 March 2024 13: 42
          Sooner or later, such a policy will lead to war within Russia. The question is: why don’t the authorities take action? Or are most of them essentially anti-Russian???? Apparently so....
          1. 0
            16 March 2024 14: 24
            How come the authorities don’t take action?
            type in Yandex - Putin in 2020 amnestied 120.000 Uzbeks and Tajiks deported from Russia for offenses.
            Read the links - Komsomolskaya Pravda, Ria Novosti, Orth, etc. from that period.
            Then it turns out, in the end, that these 120.000 from 2020 will turn into 2021 AMNESTED by our beloved grandfather in 300.00 by September 2021
            His decision was made personally, bypassing the Federation Council. Presidential Decree.
            I can throw out links from my request for these words above, but there will be individuals who will accuse me of tsipso, so - type in your own pens and read. The topic was hushed up on TV, as was the pension reform. Such laws are being passed “quietly” here.
            And also, when you see a cheerful report on TV about how the MHIF conducted a raid and deported migrants somewhere to their countries, remember 2020-21, how grandfather, with one stroke of his pen, multiplied the work of the MHIF by zero over several years, if not a decade.
        2. 0
          11 March 2024 18: 38
          There, my fellow countrymen in Marseille drove away the English in the port with chairs!) So, not everything is hopeless in this life!
          1. +4
            11 March 2024 22: 45
            Quote: Mikhail-Ivanov
            There, my fellow countrymen in Marseille dispersed the English in the port with chairs!)

            I don’t know about your fellow countrymen, but we are Russians, we walked there at night and the Arabs respected us, unlike the Franks.
      2. +48
        11 March 2024 07: 36
        Cowards and hucksters are in power. The country is already ruled by “diasporas.” So what do you all want from “justice”? They will either threaten the judge with a finger or give them money and that’s it. Therefore, I.I. Strelkov is in prison, and the “man of the diaspora” has been released.
        1. +15
          11 March 2024 12: 54
          Quote: Taimen
          “Diasporas” already rule the country. So what do you all want from “justice”?

          The other day in St. Petersburg, police detained migrant women, so one said that she “lives in Russia according to Muslim laws.” This echoes recent surveys, according to which about 40% of migrants would like to live according to Sharia law.
          https://t.me/ourspb/7467
          PS When watching the video in the cart via the link, take care of your ears. There is a lot of squealing and screaming from irreplaceable specialists.
          1. +15
            11 March 2024 15: 26
            There is a lot of squealing and screaming from irreplaceable specialists.

            An indispensable “specialist” sits in our Kremlin, only throwing up his hands at everything: “they say I have nothing to do with it.”
            1. +2
              11 March 2024 15: 50
              And, to some extent, he is right. If Russians were truly united, from civilians to security forces, then no specialist in the Kremlin would be able to indulge destructive migration policies.
        2. +7
          12 March 2024 00: 47
          It’s time for Russians to create their own diaspora in the Russian Federation, or we will remain scapegoats.
          1. 0
            16 March 2024 14: 28
            According to this article, in my youth they imprisoned me with a bang. As soon as you start talking about the “Russian world” or “why the Russians don’t have their own republic or representatives of their people in the Russian Federation” - an article from the conditions to the landings. Only now, with the beginning of the SVO, these topics began to be raised openly. Before this, they were imprisoned under the second "people's" article. First "folk" = 228.
      3. +9
        11 March 2024 10: 34
        So who did he tell? Maybe he was talking to us, the Russian people? Study the morals, lack of culture of Asians and the like.. Don’t anger the geese.. I even know what he will answer if he is asked a similar question. He will redirect, most likely to.. .Khusnullina
      4. +16
        11 March 2024 11: 42
        Quote from Uncle Lee
        Here is the answer....Where they bribe, where they intimidate.

        Anecdote: Defendant! You have the last word. - 10 thousand bucks!
        I ask again - did you kill the victim? - No ! Verdict: Well, no, and there is no trial.

        It’s sad, disgusting, disgusting - no matter how much the state pays them, it’s not enough. This means the average pension in the country. hi
      5. AAK
        +19
        11 March 2024 14: 41
        For a long time now, even his immediate circle has not responded properly to the “calls” of the Guarantor, for whom Russians are draft horses who somehow still pull the cart of the Russian economy and, in the pre-election period, the electorate, which is obliged to vote so as not to “lose otherwise.” , therefore, already 3 months before the elections at our enterprise, everyone had to report the data of their polling station, and after participating in the elections - report the fact of voting via SMS to their direct supervisor (followed by summarizing and transmitting the data up the chain of command)... by the way. , none of the “people’s” candidates in the election campaigns even dared to raise the issue of migrants and internal national diasporas, not to mention ensuring their compliance with the laws of the Russian Federation...
        1. 0
          16 March 2024 20: 10
          Moscow region. The plant employs more than 10 workers. Secret! Works for space. industry.
          My sister went to vote yesterday - she sent photos to some chat, where she took a photo of herself at the polls. precinct and the second with a ballot. Yesterday I came and told my mother about this, I listened from across the room.
          She does this every election, for about 15 years now, that she works at the plant, because “the management demands it, and who am I to refuse him? I still have to work here! And you go on being smarter”

          PS: this is, of course, an isolated incident, and this does not happen at other factories. Right?
      6. +3
        11 March 2024 18: 36
        In the current realities, I would like to see the restoration of justice through the efforts of local residents, since our courts are so crooked... No one has canceled Kondopoga!
    2. +1
      11 March 2024 06: 24
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      I constantly monitor the criminal chronicles... there are often amazing sentences for hardened criminals.
      It seems that these judges are being given the necessary sums from the criminal common fund to commute their sentences.

      And I have a feeling that the men in Russia have disappeared; after such a mockery of the people, wouldn’t it be weak to “put these migrants on pitchforks?”
      1. +48
        11 March 2024 06: 30
        So that’s the whole point - a migrant either “conditionally” or “apologizes on camera”. But the “people” will be injected with ethnic hatred and beaten to the max. As they say, these are two big differences.
        1. +10
          11 March 2024 11: 28
          Quote: Vladimir M
          So that’s the whole point - a migrant either “conditionally” or “apologizes on camera”. But the “people” will be injected with ethnic hatred and beaten to the max. As they say, these are two big differences.

          Don’t you think, dear ones, that we are intimidating ourselves with such statements? The whole problem is our disorganization. Diasporas are very organized, but we are not. If the public of Chelyabinsk came out to a rally to express no confidence in the judge who sentenced the murderer, then, I believe, there would be consequences. And due to the fact that we only write articles and comments, the authorities put something extra on us. As they say, a child does not cry, a mother does not understand.
          1. +3
            12 March 2024 01: 53
            They went out in Bashkiria and how did it end?
          2. 0
            16 March 2024 20: 17
            went to the rally?
            any UNAUTHORIZED rally - arrests and sentences for the organizers (usually 5-6 fools who will come out of the crowd and go negotiate with government officials) and the rest from suspended sentences and fines of 15 rubles and more. In the end, everyone has a record of unreliability in their personal file, after which their children and grandchildren cannot go to work in the police, FSB, or courts.
            It’s bad that you don’t live in Russia and don’t know about this. Every policeman and National Guard member is happy about such rallies, they close the gap on the annual rate of one such rally, and promote it to the fullest. They are trying for the people.
            By the way, when a fight or some kind of bullshit happens in the shopping center of your city, pay attention - there will be local old-time security officers in place, and two separate groups - the police and the National Guard. Two parallel structures, but with similar functions of pacifying the people.
            Think for yourself - why is this done?
        2. +2
          11 March 2024 12: 47
          Where did the author get the idea that the convicted migrant is from Tajikistan? He was born and raised in Russia, a Russian mother, a Kazakh father, one of those who have lived in the Russian regions bordering Kazakhstan for hundreds of years.
          1. man
            +6
            11 March 2024 16: 39
            Quote: Rashid
            Where did the author get the idea that the convicted migrant is from Tajikistan? He was born and raised in Russia, a Russian mother, a Kazakh father, one of those who have lived in the Russian regions bordering Kazakhstan for hundreds of years.

            Yeah, by the way, the widow of the murdered man said this, you can Google it. But there is too much demand in society for hatred of migrants... So a stray Tajik suits the majority smile
            1. +2
              11 March 2024 22: 26
              maybe you are right, and he is assimilated....how does this affect such a scabrous sentence??everyone is equal before the law...
              1. man
                +1
                12 March 2024 09: 03
                Quote: Dart
                maybe you are right, and he is assimilated....how does this influence such a scabrous sentence??everyone is equal before the law...

                I absolutely agree with this! But you forgot to add " That is how it should be!“But we see that this is not the case and everything is decided by money and politics (to a lesser extent)...
            2. 0
              12 March 2024 10: 08
              Quote: mann
              But there is too much demand in society for hatred of migrants...

              If you haven't done anything wrong to me, why should I hate you?
              During the Second World War, our people hated the fascists not because they were fascists, but because they invaded our country and began to kill our citizens.
              Hatred towards migrants is not because they are migrants, but because they behave inappropriately, thereby insulting our human dignity.
              Trials of migrants, if they commit crimes, should be demonstrative. Those. in the presence of as many migrants as possible when the verdict was announced.
              1. man
                0
                12 March 2024 10: 19
                Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                During the Second World War, our people hated the fascists not because they were fascists, but because they invaded our country and began to kill our citizens.

                Well, you don't have much of a comparison! laughing
              2. man
                0
                12 March 2024 10: 42
                Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                During the Second World War, our people hated the fascists not because they were fascists, but because they invaded our country and began to kill our citizens.

                Actually, we were then a single Soviet people and the Central Asians accepted a very large number of refugees from the European part of the USSR, and the locals themselves came and took them into their houses and apartments, I read.
                And they fought with the fascists, shoulder to shoulder with our fathers and grandfathers! Eh...
                1. +1
                  12 March 2024 12: 30
                  Quote: mann
                  refugees from the European part of the USSR, and the locals themselves came and took them into their houses and apartments, I read.

                  You do not confuse the generation that in their lifetime felt the change brought by the Russians into their existence. And the current generation, who were told about hunger, camps, and other horror stories. This is a completely different people, alien to us.
                  1. man
                    +1
                    12 March 2024 15: 46
                    And I don't confuse. Which people have become better under capitalism? Ass?
                    I don’t know how old you are and whether you can compare Soviet people and today’s....little people.
                    But comparing any people of the territory of the former USSR with the fascists is a very strong overkill
                    1. 0
                      12 March 2024 17: 54
                      Quote: mann
                      But compare any people with the fascists

                      Where did you read this from me? I was talking about hatred. That it does not arise out of nowhere. Hatred of WWII Nazis and hatred of migrants. In both cases, hatred did not appear out of nowhere; it arose as a result of something. Is it clear now?
                      And “comparing peoples” is your fevered fantasy.
                      1. man
                        0
                        12 March 2024 17: 58
                        Hatred of WWII Nazis and hatred of migrants.
                        I understand, you have the same hatred for them. So will it do?
                      2. +1
                        12 March 2024 18: 05
                        Quote: mann

                        I understand, you have the same hatred for them. So will it do?

                        What's the difference? They also kill, beat, rape, and distribute drugs. What difference does it make to you who rapes your daughter, a Nazi or an Uzbek? It makes no difference to me. For the point is not who did it, but what he did.
                  2. man
                    0
                    12 March 2024 16: 22
                    And the current generation, who were told about hunger, camps, and other horror stories.
                    Here we must express special gratitude to our liberals. I myself read back in perestroika times in MK about what nice guys the Basmachi were and how vile Bolsheviks were unfair to them. I myself was a liberal then, and I was freaked out by this.
                    It’s funny that after the collapse, the same people began to slander in their opuses all the peoples of the republics of the former USSR, including the “ho.kh.lovs” and only Jews are the best friends of the Russian people!
                    1. 0
                      12 March 2024 18: 00
                      Quote: mann

                      Here we must express special gratitude to our liberals. I myself read it back in perestroika times.

                      That's not the point. The bottom line is that Central Asians during the Second World War and today are different peoples. I mean in relation to us.
                      And thanking the present for the kindness of those is stupid and even criminal in relation to ours.
                      1. 0
                        16 March 2024 20: 27
                        our country always learns from its mistakes, or the mistakes of its helmsman - they scolded Khrushchev, then Brezhnev, but for now we kiss Putin on the ass.
                        regarding, “And thanking the current ones for the kindness of those is stupid and even criminal in relation to ours.” - a simple example, modern France. For their mistakes and colonial sins, they flooded their country with alien ethnic and religious people, blacks (by the way, doesn’t it remind you of anything? Tajiks and Uzbeks are also similar to us like twin brothers and I eat samsa in the morning, and Islam, especially radical with I had their specific beard in every entrance before Putin brought Tajiks, right?), and so.
                        How did this result in France? The Skabeevs-Solovyovs often discussed this topic before the Northern Military District; they liked it all.
                        You can’t walk the city streets at night - you’ll be raped, killed, robbed.
                        Obama pissing everywhere, shitting, vandalizing, etc.
                        The blacks turned out to be rather stupid in their studies; they were more interested in drugs and rap.
                        Everyone is on benefits and doesn’t work. They promote Islam, multiply and become impudent. Temples from the 1400s-1600s are being converted into mosques. There is a replacement of the white population, because a white woman gives birth to a black man from sex with a black man. Biology. Genetics.
                        And this is just a small fraction of what can be named.
                        but here... we have highly educated specialists who, for some reason, work on construction sites and sweep the streets and are used by living couriers and taxi drivers. In general, everything will be as it should be. And Russian Slavic girls will give birth to Slavic Ivans, and not Rakhmats and Dzhamshuts.
                        too, in 20-30 years we will be horrified. I will see it, you will see it, many will see it, but not the good old man who brought them. He will already escape punishment, unfortunately.
                2. 0
                  12 March 2024 19: 50
                  Quote: mann
                  And they fought with the fascists, shoulder to shoulder with our fathers and grandfathers! Eh...

                  They especially distinguished themselves in 1916 and 1989-91.
          2. AAK
            +2
            11 March 2024 23: 56
            And what difference does it make whether he is Tajik or from the assimilated, this is not the end for this freak... an intimidated or sold-out judge can be intimidated or outbid, it is much worse that this situation is supported from the very top, so it is even more difficult to fight them, than with diasporas... the churches would definitely have a say here, but alas, our priests so far cannot offer anything other than replacing one cheek with another...
            1. -2
              12 March 2024 01: 59
              The priests will answer to God, but don’t blaspheme.
            2. man
              0
              12 March 2024 09: 11
              our priests cannot offer anything other than replacing one cheek with another...
              and note that at the same time they protect their cheeks smile
      2. +14
        11 March 2024 08: 35
        Then these policemen imprison the men. Still, it’s not for nothing that they were renamed.
      3. +5
        11 March 2024 10: 29
        Quote: carpenter
        And I have a feeling that men in Russia have disappeared,

        The gene pool of the Russian nation suffered greatly after WWII, the civil war, and the Second World War. The nation has stopped reproducing itself since the 1960s. Now we are still suffering losses in the Northern Military District.
        1. +1
          12 March 2024 06: 48
          It’s time for Russians to create their own diaspora in the Russian Federation, or we will remain scapegoats.

          And I have a feeling that the men in Russia have disappeared; after such a mockery of the people, wouldn’t it be weak to “put these migrants on pitchforks?”

          maybe you are right, and he is assimilated....how does this affect such a scabrous sentence??everyone is equal before the law...

          The gene pool of the Russian nation suffered greatly after WWII, the civil war, and the Second World War. The nation has stopped reproducing itself since the 1960s. Now we are still suffering losses in the Northern Military District.


          Read Dmitry Kazakov’s book “The Last Argument”. The fairy tale is a lie, but there is a hint in it... It is very well described where we are going and what will happen to us.
          1. +1
            15 March 2024 15: 18
            crack. March 12, 2024. yours - “..Read Dmitry Kazakov’s book “The Last Argument”. The fairy tale is a lie, but there is a hint in it...”.

            .....the hint was there a long time ago. hi
            For example Elena Petrovna Chudinova. . debut in 2009 France - "Mosque of Our Lady of Prairie". Same "The Rape of Europa"
            Although the question is not the ability to read. not even in books, but in people themselves. belay
            “A people without national identity is the manure on which other nations grow.”
            These words about the “manure people” were spoken at the very beginning of the twentieth century by the Prime Minister of the Russian Empire Pyotr Stolypin, who was killed in Kiev by terrorist Dmitry Bogrov on September 1 (14), 1911, on the 50th anniversary of the abolition of “serfdom” in Russia.
            I suggest you also think about the famous saying of the first Russian academician Mikhail Lomonosov: “A people that does not know its past has no future.”
            R.S. Incl. with everything you noted. as well as "Russian scissors". ahead of the so-called "bottleneck" (specify meaning) belay . And or like many before into oblivion or ...."your head behind your shouldersand"(Gorbi). hi
            1. 0
              16 March 2024 20: 35
              and Yeltsin’s derogatory “Russians” is not manure? not the loss of our national identity?
              and now Putin’s “also-Russians” has arrived. And soon there will be a new term - new Russians.
              PS: before Lomonosov, the same phrase (in other words, but the meaning is the same) was spoken in Ancient Rome - A people that does not know its history has no future.
      4. man
        0
        11 March 2024 16: 47
        Quote: carpenter
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        I constantly monitor the criminal chronicles... there are often amazing sentences for hardened criminals.
        It seems that these judges are being given the necessary sums from the criminal common fund to commute their sentences.

        And I have a feeling that the men in Russia have disappeared; after such a mockery of the people, wouldn’t it be weak to “put these migrants on pitchforks?”

        So come back from France and go to prison, I don’t understand what’s holding you back?
        1. +1
          11 March 2024 22: 47
          Quote: mann
          So come back from France and go to prison, I don’t understand what’s holding you back?

          So I don’t live there, I’m a sailor, and in Marseille the Arabs respect us. Why should I live in this France? It’s not mine.
      5. +4
        11 March 2024 19: 04
        Let's imagine several scenarios for the reaction of Chelyabinsk men:
        1. We went out into the street to protest
        2. We sorted it out like a man

        What will be the outcome for men in each of the options?
        1. 0
          16 March 2024 20: 39
          I'll make a copy-paste of my post above. It is addressed to another person, but the meaning is also suitable for you.

          went to the rally?
          any UNAUTHORIZED rally - arrests and sentences for the organizers (usually 5-6 fools who will come out of the crowd and go negotiate with government officials) and the rest from suspended sentences and fines of 15 rubles and more. In the end, everyone has a record of unreliability in their personal file, after which their children and grandchildren cannot go to work in the police, FSB, or courts.
          Every policeman and National Guard member is happy about such rallies, they close the gap on the annual rate of one such rally, and promote it to the fullest. They are trying for the people.
          By the way, when a fight or some kind of bullshit happens in the shopping center of your city, pay attention - there will be local old-time security officers in place, and two separate groups - the police and the National Guard. Two parallel structures, but with similar functions of pacifying the people.
          Think for yourself - why is this done?

          PS: the second point is imprisonment for a longer period (a group of persons by prior conspiracy, causing bodily harm of varying degrees of severity and terms of conviction later), because they offended defenseless Russians too. And also the Russians sitting in the ranks of judges and prosecutors will happily promote longer terms, so that later the old Russians will not raise a popular protest.
    3. +30
      11 March 2024 07: 44
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      The system of impunity for judges encourages the decay of the entire law enforcement system with the ensuing consequences.

      1. It is necessary to return people's assessors to the courts. The assessor must be exclusively a representative of the indigenous population and preferably a member of the SBO.
      2. It is necessary to introduce personal responsibility of judges for the decisions made.
      1. +8
        11 March 2024 09: 16
        And now the jury has been greatly eliminated and they are not allowed
        1. +6
          11 March 2024 10: 00
          They did the right thing about the jury.
          Firstly, let’s take into account the jury’s lack of legal education and practice.
          Secondly, in a jury trial, emotions, or the artistry of the defense and prosecution, come first. They have the “Simpson case,” when a team of the best lawyers achieved the acquittal of a husband suspected of murdering his wife. Moreover, when the wife’s relatives filed a lawsuit for material damage, the ex-husband paid without a sound. We have the “Averyanov case”, when a jury acquitted an entrepreneur who killed a Saiga security guard in front of a bunch of witnesses.
          Thirdly, the possibility of pressure on the jury. Now you are a juror, but the board will be dissolved, and you will become an ordinary citizen, and NO ONE will protect you or your family.
          1. +4
            11 March 2024 18: 46
            Actually, according to the Law, judges make decisions based on inner conviction. It is impossible to explain what it is and why it does not coincide with the concept of justice. So, legal education seems to have nothing to do with it. And why is the “insideness” of a judge valued above the opinions of many citizens?
            And with the “pressure on the jury” there is generally laughter and hysteria... It’s easier to “stimulate” one judge than several dozen from the list of possible jurors in the case.
            1. 0
              11 March 2024 18: 51
              The jury consists of 12 people + 2 spares. Stimulate at least 2-3, and it is not necessary to stimulate, you can also intimidate. After making a decision, the juror becomes ONE OF US, with all the problems that come with it.
              1. +1
                11 March 2024 19: 19
                12 plus are those who are attracted directly. And the list of jurors in general...it is secret and voluminous. wink
                The jury is simply inconvenient for the “customers”... how many times have Colonel Budanov been acquitted? Three? And Colonel Klochkov? Three too? That's it. Justice and expediency do not always go hand in hand.
                1. +1
                  11 March 2024 19: 33
                  O. And the list of jurors in general...it is secret and voluminous.

                  Do you think that the names of specific jurors who make a decision on a specific case are a closely guarded secret? You are deeply mistaken, let's start with the fact that jury selection is OPEN, and the defendant's lawyer can challenge... or maybe not. The cases of Budanov and Klochkov in this case are not an indicator, since they are essentially loners, but here we are opposed by an organization called “diaspora”.
                  1. +2
                    11 March 2024 19: 41
                    A useless dispute in particulars... and Budanov and Klochkov are not alone, if only for the reason that they were acquitted three times with different jury compositions... And Budanov’s example is generally beyond understanding... “confrontation”.
                    We say goodbye peacefully and each with his own, most correct, opinion. laughing
        2. +7
          11 March 2024 11: 58
          Yes, they removed it. We live in a fair country, with normal leadership, which listens to public opinion and cares for the titular nation.. Or is it not?
      2. +7
        11 March 2024 11: 48
        It is necessary to introduce personal responsibility of judges for their decisions

        And who will enter it? Judges are happy with this state of affairs when they can make any decision, and no one controls them and they do not bear any responsibility for their decisions. If you appeal the decision of a lower court to a higher one, then in most cases the higher one will leave the decision unchanged on the principle of mutual responsibility ...
        1. +2
          11 March 2024 13: 14
          Quote: Ilnur
          And who will enter it?

          Our so-called people's deputies pass laws.
          1. +1
            12 March 2024 08: 31
            Our so-called people's deputies pass laws.

            That’s right, so-called “people’s” deputies, you yourself answered with your own definition that they are not people’s deputies at all, and therefore they will not pass laws for the benefit of the people...
        2. +1
          16 March 2024 20: 45
          I was sued once.
          went through three courts - my local small-town, Moscow region, Moscow central - everywhere they confirmed the previous verdict. I invested a lot of money and spent a lot of time - almost 1.5 years.
          but I learned about the venality and corruption of the system. I learned to see lawyers from afar, who “oh, it’s no big deal! Pay 100% in advance, and I’ll do everything,” and then they don’t answer the phone and are super busy. I met my first scammers in my personal life. I never thought or knew how everything worked there. Found out.
          an experience that will not be written in books and no one will tell you until you get dirty yourself.
    4. +15
      11 March 2024 09: 05
      What kind of power, such a court.
    5. 2al
      +21
      11 March 2024 10: 36
      It’s funny, who else remembers the situation with the governor of the Samara region, against whom they publicly threatened to use violence in a perverted form? It all ended in interethnic friendship and chewing gum (an apology on camera), even without a fine. Demand from a court that is guided by bourgeois law and defends the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie even a parody of justice? Diasporas, as an organizational form, are a branch of government, although unconstitutional, but recognized in our state at all levels, therefore the bourgeois court has protected and will protect its interests.
    6. 0
      11 March 2024 16: 36
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      This is not normal... after such sentences, judges should be checked for bribes and illegal income and put in prison along with repeat offenders.

      Nice man! That's why the article:
      Article 20
      Illicit enrichment
      Subject to the observance of its constitution and the fundamental principles of its legal system, each State Party shall consider adopting such legislative and other measures as may be necessary in order to criminalize, when it is intentionally committed, illegal enrichment, i.e. a significant increase in the assets of a public official in excess of his legal income, which he cannot reasonably substantiate.

      The United Nations Convention against Corruption has not been ratified...
      * * *
      And I also noted one feature: in the former republics of the USSR, many fighters, wrestlers and just brawlers are “born”... But they go to live in Russia... Why? Did you find the patient?
    7. -1
      11 March 2024 17: 25
      Migrant Rustam Baizhumenov was given a suspended sentence for the murder of a SVO member. What is happening to Russian justice?

      Nothing happens to him - he doesn't exist.
  2. +25
    11 March 2024 04: 43
    At the end of it all, he still had to be released from the pre-trial detention center with a bouquet of flowers and an apology
  3. +49
    11 March 2024 04: 56
    Well, at least the deceased did not fall on the fist of the “victim” himself - a completely natural sentence for our feudal capitalism. In any adequate society there would already be a howl from an unjust verdict, and internal checks and investigations would be carried out with consequences for everyone who passed such a “sentence”. Justice and the word legislation are also not about us, but if a Russian had committed a crime against some migrant, I am sure that most likely he would not have even lived to see the verdict, having accidentally fallen from the bed onto a blunt object, and in general, what to compare, Russians are not the most protected people in their home country, and in theory, the SVO first had to be carried out inside the country, many hope that when we win, yesterday’s fighters will be able to restore order in the country, unfortunately the guys won’t be able to... They just won’t let them, the most promising ones will be pushed somewhere Plan 20, and in 5 years they will be told that no one asked you to fight. And that the Russian man will endure everything, all these are beautiful slogans from the screens, these promises have not been for us for a long time. I’m honestly shocked, they killed a veteran who stood up for a girl, and the criminal laughs in the face of all of us, our government, our country, and I learned about this from an article from VO, for which many thanks and respect to the author!!, there is no need to talk about this be silent! And sometimes you think that those people who make decisions generally think about the people, I’m not against migrants when they accept our culture and laws, but when something like this happens, it’s chaos, even in the 90s the most ardent bandits couldn’t allow this, but here an ordinary Tajik bends everything our vaunted system. I hope that justice will prevail, and the culprit will be punished, as well as all those who pass similar sentences and turn our country into a circus will also suffer it... and always with aggravating circumstances and to the fullest extent... Although God, who am I kidding? ... a circus with horses and that's all.....
    1. +18
      11 March 2024 05: 08
      Quote from turembo
      In any adequate society there would already be a howl from an unfair verdict, and internal checks and investigations would be carried out with consequences for everyone who passed such a “sentence”.

      In our time, we still need to look for adequate societies. Here is a typical, I emphasize, typical case when a rape case is considered in Canada. The rapist is a migrant from the Middle East, the victim is a local white girl.
      The judge at the hearing (Toronto) looks at her shorts and asks, were you wearing the same ones when you were raped? Having received an affirmative answer, the judge acquits the rapist. The victim was told that she herself was to blame, since she provoked the rapist with her immodest attire.

      If a white man raped a migrant, he would rot.
      1. +13
        11 March 2024 05: 40
        Quote: Comrade
        If a white man raped a migrant, he would rot.

        This is certainly true. When criticizing the state of affairs in our country, there is no need to idealize other countries. In the West, there is now a process of transformation of the very structure of building society and the formation of collective identity (Canada and Australia are ahead of the rest here) and therefore in politically motivated areas there is a “revolutionary globalist legal consciousness” with all its “cancel cultures”, “positive discrimination”, etc. d.
        The difference is that we do not have a revolutionary sense of justice, but corruption-mafia concepts, and not in individual politically motivated issues, but everywhere.
        1. +1
          16 March 2024 20: 48
          the judge who performed her daughter’s Golden Wedding with Kirkorov and Baskov (they performed for free, in their words, they flew to Dagestan at their own expense, etc.). In general, this halyalova judge will not let you lie that we have the most honest court in the world without corruption and crime with kickbacks.
    2. +5
      11 March 2024 06: 53
      turembo
      I learned about this from an article from VO,

      Look at TV sometimes. I've been following this case for several months.
    3. +4
      11 March 2024 10: 34
      Quote from turembo
      I hope that justice will prevail and the culprit will be punished, as well as all those who pass such sentences and turn our country into a circus.

      This will not happen, there is even one candidate for the presidency of the Russian Federation who advocates for greater import of migrants.
  4. +27
    11 March 2024 05: 09
    What is happening to Russian justice?
    Themis has lost her scales, and the judges have lost their conscience, especially when the interested party can pay for her absence.
    1. +7
      11 March 2024 06: 41
      Quote: rotmistr60
      What is happening to Russian justice?
      Themis has lost her scales, and the judges have lost their conscience, especially when the interested party can pay for her absence.

      And people look at this, discuss it on websites, give plus marks, but no one lays a finger on a migrant. Where did the famous organized crime groups that could fight back against the “newly-minted citizens” go?
      1. +11
        11 March 2024 07: 34
        Quote: carpenter
        Where did the famous organized crime groups go?

        They are sitting. They're lying down.
        1. +1
          11 March 2024 14: 11
          Yes, it’s as if others took their place... But these others have already taken up. For the Russian people
      2. +10
        11 March 2024 09: 44
        were destroyed by the police after the redistribution of property took place. they simply became unnecessary.
    2. 0
      11 March 2024 10: 50
      . Themis lost her scales, and the judges lost their conscience,


      Such is the society, such are the courts. They didn't come from Mars, did they? And who, according to some assumptions, pays them? Also not Martians, but those who want to resolve the issue not according to the law, but based on personal interests.
      Until there is a society, there will be no justice. But there are many bad things with scales and conscience.
    3. +3
      11 March 2024 12: 03
      And what? Themis is on her own, in a vacuum? She is from the branches of power. That means the power is like this. From the bottom to the top. She has lost her conscience, and indeed everything, besides the huge money
  5. +6
    11 March 2024 05: 10
    Well, why talk about it here? Why didn’t the author ask the question at the Q&A evening? That’s right, they won’t let you ask such questions there, because they’ll consider it an incitement. And they quite rightly declare that they will be the power in Russia
    1. +3
      11 March 2024 06: 43
      Quote from Voronezh
      And they quite rightly declare that they will be the power in Russia

      And you look at this in silence and remain silent, and I get a minus for the incorrect question.
      1. +5
        11 March 2024 07: 49
        And the “patriots” will advise everyone who is dissatisfied right here to go over the hill, like Pereira did to me the other day.
        1. +11
          11 March 2024 08: 22
          “When bad times come in the country, and a cry is heard - it’s time to get out!, the liberal asks where, and the patriot asks whom..” (c)
          1. +1
            11 March 2024 12: 05
            And? Who are we going to blame? The whole list, please... This is black humor and bitter irony. And not a provocation of the FSB (if that)
            1. +4
              11 March 2024 12: 18
              And you can look through the works of the bearded classics of Marxism at your leisure - everything is explained there very clearly...
              1. +3
                11 March 2024 13: 57
                I studied these works about 40 years ago. On the history of the CPSU, MLF, NK.. Then the names of the enemies were different.. Although the essence is correct..
    2. man
      0
      11 March 2024 16: 58
      And they quite rightly declare that they will be the power in Russia
      Here I can reassure you, power will never be given back to the Tajiks! However, also for non-Tajiks
      1. 0
        12 March 2024 12: 08
        Oh really? In many cities and towns, diasporas are very influential. Maybe unofficially. However, sometimes shadow power means more than daylight power.
        1. man
          0
          12 March 2024 16: 00
          Quote from Voronezh
          Oh really? In many cities and towns, diasporas are very influential. Maybe unofficially. However, sometimes shadow power means more than daylight power.

          To be honest, I don’t know; I’ve never encountered any diaspora in Moscow.
          And actually, I meant something completely different.
  6. +39
    11 March 2024 05: 27
    The author asks rhetorical questions, the answer to which, I believe, he himself is well aware of.
    No laws are in force in the Russian Federation (and above all, the main law, the Constitution, is not in force), and there is no judicial system judging by the laws here. "Concepts" operate. And “guilt” is determined by the degree of influence and/or interest of the individuals involved. Strelkov was imprisoned not for some kind of guilt, but for politics (any article can be framed at random). And this citizen was “dismissed by the diasporas,” that is, organized ethnic groups that are outside the law. Their influence varies greatly from region to region; in the Chelyabinsk region (“the land of harsh men”) it is especially great.
    And the Russian authorities don’t give a damn about the “SVO participants” (and, by the way, the SVO itself does not exist in the legislative field of the Russian Federation), they are only interesting while the authorities cannot reach any agreements with their Western bosses, and people are needed to conclude a contract and and they are needed so much that you can become a hero of the Northern Military District even with a criminal record on the most serious charges.
    If we make the assumption, which is fantastic in today’s times, that the Russian authorities will somehow manage to negotiate a truce in Ukraine, then with a sigh of relief they will immediately forget about the Northern Military District and its heroes, just as they instantly forgot about the “terrible pandemic and heroes -medics."
    PS Therefore, the unfortunate family can be advised to download this topic right now and through the “SVO participant”. As long as there is interest in the topic, you can achieve a review of the sentence.
  7. +19
    11 March 2024 05: 48
    In early Soviet times, although they said something about “socially close” people, they imprisoned them. And who is being covered up here? Outright enemies of the Russian people? Did the North Military District only need to start against the hikhlovs, maybe we should also take a closer look at the inside of the country?
    1. +12
      11 March 2024 09: 11
      SVO for the destruction of Slavs of reproductive age, the destruction of the possible revival of the Orthodox idea, under the slogans of patriotism... And about this, about imaginary patriotism, you can’t say better than Saltykov-Shchedrin...
  8. +23
    11 March 2024 05: 58
    The author, at the very beginning of the article, when he writes... a native of Tajikistan speaking for Dagestan... even with just these lines shows how the weight of this “national” mess has penetrated deeply into our subconscious, that we ourselves take it for granted, without noticing. After all, if, for example, if Nikitin were an MMA fighter and they both met in the ring, then we would have to talk about one fighter fighting for Dagestan and another fighter fighting for Russia. But Dagestan is Russia! When will this mess be over? Any national “identity” should only be at the folklore-ethnographic-amateur level. Otherwise, this is Russia with the state Russian language, with a single state flag, with a single national anthem.
    I have already written a hundred times that the clans of the leaders of migrant diasporas are not the barons of gypsy camps covered in romance and sung in operettas. These are the leaders of an entire army that has poured into Russia, and they are obliged to save their ordinary soldier from prison. Otherwise, a rebellion may arise in this army with questions about how the leaders spend this tribute, which ordinary soldiers pay to the leaders of the diaspora, not to mention the special ones. profits from the sale of special goods, drugs, prostitution, counterfeit vodka, etc., which these leaders bring to themselves.
    1. +9
      11 March 2024 09: 19
      Quote: north 2
      a native of Tajikistan playing for Dagestan..

      A mixed martial artist pulling a girl's hair is already a crime! The ability to fight professionally is tantamount to using weapons!
      Nikitin, while intoxicated, behaved aggressively, conflicted with other visitors to the bar, did not respond to comments, behaved rudely towards Baizhumenov, made an insulting statement addressed to him and hit him in the face with his hand

      here, besides the judge, the investigators who compiled the protocol are also involved
    2. 0
      11 March 2024 22: 31
      Quote: north 2
      After all, if, for example, if Nikitin were an MMA fighter and they both met in the ring, then we would have to talk about one fighter fighting for Dagestan and another fighter fighting for Russia.

      Well, to the point of insanity, why? He himself pitted Russia against Dagestan, although in principle such competitions cannot exist either within the country or abroad. And then he surprised himself:
      But Dagestan is Russia!

      fool
  9. +23
    11 March 2024 06: 02
    . A logical question arises: what is happening to Russian justice?

    The question is illogical. Because nothing happens to Russian justice. It is what it is. And what it was.

    The vector of development for everything was set by the guarantor. He spoke very specifically on the topic of Russians in Russia and cave nationalism. We'll go and vote for him soon!
  10. -12
    11 March 2024 06: 17
    native of Tajikistan, MMA fighter fighting for Dagestan
    Is Dagestan not a subject of the Russian Federation? Dagestan, is this not Russia? Baizhumenov probably also has Russian citizenship? Along the way, does he represent Russia at international competitions in this sport? Considering that Russian athletes are excluded from many types of international competitions, hence such a lenient sentence. For lack of fish and cancer, fish .
    1. +23
      11 March 2024 06: 36
      Is Dagestan not a subject of the Russian Federation?

      Diaspora is the name of organized crime groups on the territory of Russia, formed on a national basis. Hence its omnipotence in a corrupt environment. And these organized crime groups will continue to rule in the field, trampling the disorganized law-abiding Russian majority, until they are completely eliminated by the state repressive machine. Otherwise, the state itself will be liquidated by these national organized crime groups and taken to clan dens.
      1. -6
        11 March 2024 06: 54
        Diaspora is the name of an organized crime group in Russia
        Are Dagestan, Chechnya, S. Ossetia, Kabardino-Balkaria, Circassia an organized crime group on Russian territory?
        1. +9
          11 March 2024 08: 33
          Judging by your comments, we are somewhere close in age. So there is no need to provoke.
          Diaspora is a national organization of an ethnic minority, created for the survival of a closed (not willing to assimilate) community in an alien national-cultural environment. Naturally, the order in this society corresponds to some kind of mafia organization. And if all this is placed in the nutritious broth of Russian corruption, then the prospect of enslavement and optimization of the indigenous population cannot but come to the minds of organized migrant-passions.
          Now why is this most characteristic of the Muslim environment? Everyone talks about the Shadow Government, but they mean World Jewry. I think the address is incorrect. Considering the amount of petrodollars in the hands of Muslim governments, it is quite possible for a conspiracy to decompose traditional Christian states. What Islamic radicalism is was revealed to us slightly by the provocation of 07.10.2023/XNUMX/XNUMX.
          Compared to the massacre that could happen here, this is a children's party.
          1. +4
            11 March 2024 08: 40
            And more:
            Now our state is in an extremely difficult position to afford a war (and it will be a war) against national crime. But we know that the police forces and internal troops of the state are capable of carrying out a punitive operation of any degree of cruelty in relation to this threat, up to the physical elimination of criminals under martial law and the mass deportation of entire peoples. So further aggravation of the situation is far from beneficial for these groups themselves.
          2. +6
            11 March 2024 08: 47
            So there is no need to provoke.
            Where do you see the provocation? Can you explain how a citizen of Tajikistan represents Russia at international competitions or how a citizen of Tajikistan represents part of Russia at domestic competitions, if these are open competitions, then why doesn’t he represent Tajikistan? And the last question: who protects the national diasporas in Russia? Arab sheikhs? If so, do they have influence on the Russian authorities?
            1. +2
              11 March 2024 09: 27
              Your provocation is that the direct answer draws on the article. You lived in Soviet times, you were a boss and you are fluent in Aesopian language.
              Sheikhs are, of course, powerful, but their rulers of thought are more terrible - Islamic fundamentalists. And their influence on the masses of fanatics is almost limitless. Moreover, the interest in plunder is quite compatible with the intention to exterminate the infidels.
              And so, yes, OPEC (the patrimony of the sheikhs) has influence on our oligarchs and officials, and serious influence.
              1. +1
                11 March 2024 09: 50
                And their influence on the masses of fanatics is almost limitless.
                That is, sheikhs rule in Russia. No, I wasn’t a boss, I didn’t have the chance. My youth came during perestroika and subsequent events.
                1. -4
                  11 March 2024 10: 20
                  For the boss - sorry, you just write quite categorically, but are polite in your turns of phrase. I myself am a sinner!
                  As for the sheikhs, it’s very possible, and there is an organization and interest. So sending conditional “whites” to Jahannam is both profitable and noble.
                  1. +2
                    11 March 2024 11: 55
                    but polite in turns of phrase.
                    All of my youth was spent in the city on the Neva, from 1987 to 2001. The Leningrad police were distinguished by their politeness to citizens, in comparison with other cities of Russia, until its valiant ranks were replenished by native St. Petersburg residents.
        2. +1
          11 March 2024 10: 55
          You won’t believe it, but you often get the feeling that yes.
  11. +17
    11 March 2024 06: 22
    The question here is, did the national organized crime groups simply “bought” the court and the police, or did they also “spoil” them? A trial is currently taking place in Chelyabinsk, where migrants in a crowd killed a 17-year-old boy. These migrants also studied at the Ural Regional College. So these migrants staged a booth in court. Do they know very well that the national organized crime groups will “solve everything”? Is it really that an organization like the FSIN is not able to “erase the smiles” from their faces?
    1. +8
      11 March 2024 07: 32
      The FSIN is also ordinary people who want to eat delicious food, go home in the evenings, go out into the yard, and their bodies love comfort and not numerous blows with hard, blunt objects, and failed police officers have relatives there like cockroaches, how will you press them if they don’t find you and the dogs later, and the raufik is invincible will it be all the Nazi skinheads are terrible
      1. +8
        11 March 2024 07: 40
        This is what frightens me. Someone in the country is intelligently creating the preconditions for a “Russian senseless and merciless rebellion.” "Ruli" must understand that they will be "hooked" too.
        1. +4
          11 March 2024 08: 20
          Yes, the old principle is to create counterbalances and watch how the goyim fool each other, well, if they are like children))) everyone accepts who is to blame for the truth))
  12. +13
    11 March 2024 06: 53
    It is imperative to check the accounts of judges and their relatives, the receipt of illegal funds, and, of course, I would like that, by lifting the moratorium on the death penalty, these judges, along with their relatives who received bribes, would simply be put against the wall.
    1. +5
      11 March 2024 07: 33
      Doesn't the judge's middle name mean anything to you?
      1. +5
        11 March 2024 07: 45
        Quote from Mazunga
        Doesn't the judge's middle name mean anything to you?

        What should it talk about? My aunt's name is Raisa.
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        2. +5
          11 March 2024 07: 53
          with your aunt subtly bro))) I didn’t understand at first))) but this is definitely a masterpiece
          1. +2
            11 March 2024 08: 10
            The name was quite popular in the first half of the last century.
            1. +5
              11 March 2024 08: 15
              Rais then))? yes, quite popular among Turkic peoples))
              1. +3
                11 March 2024 08: 32
                Gorbachev’s wife seemed to be a Ukrainian.
                1. +2
                  11 March 2024 16: 50
                  Quote: Mordvin 3
                  Gorbachev’s wife seemed to be a Ukrainian.

                  Gorbachev’s wife and he himself were scum who could not stand the test of power... But they were believed...
                  We Russians are gullible. Previously they believed in socialism and the CPSU, now they believe in God and EdRo...
                  1. 0
                    16 March 2024 20: 55
                    They still believe in the Tsar Father, the figure of 80% will be announced on Monday.
                    he is usually innocent of anything, it is the evil boyars around who are bad and deceive him.
                    The boyars, his partners, and everyone around him deceive him, and he is glad to be deceived. there is no responsibility, 80% already support his “innocent” deceitfulness..
                    then a Putin center will be built, somewhere in St. Petersburg. And they will tell the kids what a saint he was and how the Russian people worried about the Taj...
  13. +3
    11 March 2024 07: 00
    And does anyone think that such injustice can be defeated in a democratic, peaceful way? Now guess who is the “roof” behind all this chaos? I won't go to the polls.
    1. +1
      11 March 2024 07: 37
      Don’t let my buddy join the election commission for fun, he’s already serving his second term; by the way, I didn’t know before that the commission is on the payroll of the municipal administration and they are elected there for 5 years, as a rule, local teachers, and the citizens are all different cunningly crafted, so he says that even if 1 person will vote, the elections took place and considering the buses with state employees, well, you understand))
    2. -1
      11 March 2024 07: 50
      Or maybe it’s still worth going. And it doesn’t matter who to vote for. For the “jingo-patriots” - I am fully aware - tomorrow the GDP “will not be” (and this is quite possible, he is a living person) and the “next day” bad things will begin in the country. At the same time, I understand perfectly well that this time it will be possible to “count” 80%, without consequences. But next time it may not work if you don’t start solving internal problems. So maybe it’s still worth trying to convey through the elections that “not all is well in the kingdom.”
      1. -1
        11 March 2024 07: 55
        In no way am I calling for “undermining the country.” I understand perfectly well what this will lead to under these conditions... But I think it’s worth trying to convey it through the elections.
        1. -1
          11 March 2024 16: 58
          Quote: Vladimir M
          But I think it’s worth trying to convey it through elections.

          Well, take courage - tell me where to carry it, how much and to whom...

          If there is a protest candidate, it is Kharitonov. Most likely, he was pushed to the elections because those at the top “believed and hoped” that he would get at most 5% (who would vote for him?!). And send some Grudinin or the same Bondarenko...Would they have reached the finals with such scrupulousness and bias of the Central Election Commission?!
          But ideas are only suggested here, and voting (for whomever you want) or going out for a beer is everyone’s personal business...
      2. +1
        11 March 2024 16: 31
        “Or maybe it’s still worth going. And voting - it doesn’t matter for whom.”
        By coming to the polls or voting remotely, you automatically cast your vote to a self-nominated candidate, because the phrase “It doesn’t matter how they vote, it’s important how they count” is more relevant today than ever. That’s why now there is fierce pressure, especially among state employees and security officials - either you present photo proof of voting or you don’t receive the bonus or they threaten to fire you. We’ve already reached the point where you have to vote yourself and “bring two friends.” Understand that boycotting this clownery is the only really available chance to show the authorities your dissatisfaction. The authorities have done everything possible - they have removed the “Against”, “Against all” clauses, lowered the turnout threshold to a ridiculous level, are practicing “carousel”, luring voters with “millions of prizes”. They are doing everything so that people come to the scam. But if the people do not come and do not trust the authorities, then perhaps something will reach them. Although I highly doubt it. At least this is the only legal way to express your dissatisfaction to the authorities.
        1. +1
          11 March 2024 16: 54
          Perhaps you are right. But then, what’s the point of removing the “Against” item if “with a slight movement of the hands” “Against” turns into “For”?
          1. +1
            11 March 2024 17: 04
            I mean that just not participating in a scam will save your money.

            Muscovites will check the DEG system on the eve of the presidential elections
            On March 29, residents of the capital will test the remote electronic voting system (DEG), which will be used by residents of 15 regions of the country during the presidential elections on March 17-XNUMX.
            Testing will take place on Saturday from 10:00 to 14:00. Muscovites will be asked to answer one question: “Is it necessary to cut down poplars to get rid of poplar fluff?” Voting will take place on the website (https://elec.mos.ru/).

            The question is, why was it necessary to test a system that has been functioning for 3 years already, and even with such a question to which Muscovites will answer unequivocally “YES”. Congratulations. who fulfilled his civic duty with good intentions. Now whether you go to vote on March 14 or not, now it doesn’t matter, because your “YES” is in the system. And this “YES” will fall into the basket of the self-nominated candidate. So, they fucked Muscovites once again!
        2. 0
          16 March 2024 20: 58
          I'll quote myself. I wrote in another topic.

          Moscow region. The plant employs more than 10 workers. Secret! Works for space. industry.
          My sister went to vote yesterday - she sent photos to some chat, where she took a photo of herself at the polls. precinct and the second with a ballot. Yesterday I came and told my mother about this, I listened from across the room.
          She does this every election, for about 15 years now, that she works at the plant, because “the management demands it, and who am I to refuse him? I still have to work here! And you go on being smarter”

          PS: this is, of course, an isolated incident, and this does not happen at other factories. Right?
      3. Ash
        -2
        11 March 2024 17: 51
        Believe it or not, starting in 96 I voted for some of the Communist Party members, but only against the party in power. I voted for Prokhorov once. A comrade sat at the election commission and said that in our region 70% are against United Russia, and it was possible to elect at least opposition mayors. As a result, elections were abolished, the governor began to be appointed, the mayor was chosen by city council deputies, and the item disappeared from the ballots: against everyone. A comrade from the election commission is now sitting in customs and with both hands for the current government. So we already went through this years ago, believe me, there will be an effect, but it will be exactly the opposite of your opinion.
        Z.Y. In 96, I served as a conscript, due to the nature of the service, they were wearing civilian clothes. When presented with a military ID at the polling station, the officer present there perked up, but I went into the booth and did what I thought was necessary. And then they brought in a whole battalion, and he stood with an important look and pointed his finger at them where they needed to put a tick. Almost 28 years have passed, and nothing has changed in our state, infa 146%.
        1. -1
          11 March 2024 19: 39
          Obviously you didn’t read carefully, I’m telling you about NOT participating in a scam according to the rules of scammers. It is not the population's coming to the polls that makes the elections invalid and the government unlegitimate. And therefore the laws adopted by this government are not valid. And then the people can legally express their opinion without fear of the law “not to gather more than three” where it is convenient for them and when it is convenient, and not where the authorities want and when they want it. This will be the origin of civil power.
  14. +10
    11 March 2024 07: 05
    There are 2 ways to deprive a legitimate government of its legitimacy:
    1. Do not punish the guilty;
    2. Punish the innocent.
    1. +1
      11 March 2024 17: 00
      Quote: Pushkowed
      There are 2 ways to deprive a legitimate government of its legitimacy:
      1. Do not punish the guilty;
      2. Punish the innocent.

      It will serve as one of the types of satirical exposure, caustic ridicule, the highest degree of irony.
      Sarcasm states one thing but implies the opposite. - for example, using mocking hyperbole or intonation...
      Yes
  15. +10
    11 March 2024 07: 08
    And the reason for this is our Yeltsin government. And again, the “elected” guarantor with his retinue and puppeteers will continue to broadcast about the growth of the gross national product, about improving the standard of living of the people...
    1. +1
      11 March 2024 09: 19
      And our “guarantor” is a guarantor of what?
      1. 0
        11 March 2024 17: 07
        Quote: Eskobar
        And our “guarantor” is a guarantor of what?


        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtPQNPYzZ_A
  16. +2
    11 March 2024 07: 10
    Gentlemen, the arithmetic is simple, for burning a book you get 3,5 years in prison, and for the murder of a Russian guy you get 1,5 years probation. And the authorities pretend that nothing is happening.
  17. +10
    11 March 2024 07: 13
    Quote: carpenter
    Where did the famous organized crime groups that could fight back against the “newly-minted citizens” go?

    There were National Bolsheviks and ultras in the 1990s... but the FSB crushed them and threw the most active ones into prison.
    The counterbalance in our society against the nationalist radicals, which kept the national question in balance, has disappeared... now the nationalities set their own conditions for the majority of our society.
    Get fucked !!!
  18. +9
    11 March 2024 07: 19
    And you are still drowning here for some kind of debt in the war, protecting something of ours, open your eyes, the country is no longer ours, when will it come??? The whole article is about this, we are not the masters here, who should we protect? They are forced to vote, who to choose? Who allowed all this?
    1. 0
      11 March 2024 10: 40
      Quote: Vadim S
      The whole article is about this, we are not the bosses here

      So these guests from sunny Asia openly say so. And all these DEMONSTRATIVE beatings of passers-by on camera are precisely a statement of rights to their management.
      Quote: Vadim S
      They are forced to vote, who to choose?

      Anyone, the main thing here is who NOT to choose. Why are they going to the polls? Yes, because the authorities themselves understand that with a turnout of 40-45%, legitimacy somehow limps on both legs. And they don’t really know what’s in the minds of the silent ones. What if it shoots suddenly, as it always happens with us? So we need to go. I am 146% sure that if the guarantor elections develop into the 2nd round, even if there is a hint of this, we will face tectonic shifts in the country’s political system. And in migration policy, among others.
      1. -1
        11 March 2024 13: 01
        Quote: Zoer
        Yes, because the authorities themselves understand that with a turnout of 40-45%, legitimacy somehow limps on both legs. And they don’t really know what’s in the minds of the silent ones. What if it shoots suddenly, as it always happens with us? So we need to go.

        Where is the logic? If legitimacy limps with low turnout, and this is not profitable for the authorities, then we need to go and increase turnout?
        Quote: Zoer
        if the guarantor elections develop into the 2nd round

        laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing
        1. -1
          11 March 2024 13: 50
          Quote: Hyperion
          Where is the logic? If legitimacy limps with low turnout, and this is not profitable for the authorities, then we need to go and increase turnout?

          The logic is that, in my personal conviction, silent people do NOT support the guarantor and his policies, and do not go to the polls out of despair and disbelief that they can change anything. And I am sure that the total expression of the will of the people can lead to a second round. To hell with him, they will even draw him a victory without a second round, but this will already be a serious signal to the rulers that it is time to end the anti-native policy. And if with a turnout of 40% they can only guess about the lack of legitimacy, then with support in the elections in the region of 50%, this already openly raises the question of legitimacy.
          1. +1
            11 March 2024 15: 21
            Quote: Zoer
            this will be a serious signal to the rulers that it’s time to end the anti-native policy

            This “serious bell” of yours is nothing more than light background noise for those who live behind high fences and thick walls on another planet.
            As it seems, Marx said: “You can only reach justice at the gates of palaces with the butts of rifles.”
            1. -1
              11 March 2024 15: 31
              Quote: Hyperion
              This “serious bell” of yours is nothing more than light background noise for those who live behind high fences and thick walls on another planet.
              As it seems, Marx said: “You can only reach justice at the gates of palaces with the butts of rifles.”

              That's what I'm talking about. At the beginning of 1917, there was also BACKGROUND noise, and then that’s how it happened. I think there are not complete idiots sitting behind high fences, they should at least look into the near future and correctly predict.
              I'm watching the news feed right now. FOM reports that 81% of respondents will VOTE for the former. HOW does this happen? I don’t live on Mars, and I have friends, and the team at work is not small. So in my sample there is not even 5% FOR him.
              1. +1
                11 March 2024 16: 07
                Quote: Zoer
                I think there are not complete idiots sitting behind high fences; they should at least look into the near future and make correct predictions.

                Considering that the example of European problems with migrants is before our eyes, it is doubtful that anyone there can predict correctly. Therefore, there are only two options - either they deliberately carry out migration, or you have too good an opinion of the gentlemen behind the fences.
                Quote: Zoer
                FOM reports that 81% of respondents will VOTE for the former. HOW does this happen?

                What did you want from the foundation, which: “The main customer and consumer of the Foundation’s research results is the Administration of the President of the Russian Federation.”?
                The “bell,” if it reaches the highest echelons, will at most cause another show.

                The fox asked the crow
                - Are you going to vote?
                “No,” answered the crow. And the cheese fell out of her beak.
                The crow thought, “And if I said Yes, what would change?”
                1. 0
                  11 March 2024 22: 29
                  Quote: Hyperion
                  Considering that the example of European problems with migrants is before our eyes, it is doubtful that anyone there can predict correctly.

                  Yes, even there the authorities are not really ignoring this “noise”, and they are losing the choice. But with our 146, you don’t have to bother at all.
                  Quote: Hyperion
                  Therefore, there are only two options - either they deliberately carry out migration

                  Of course they do everything consciously. Moreover, those officials and businesses that have excess profits from guest workers are secondary reasons. The primary ones are the loyalty of the buyers to our leaders, and not to the American ones. As soon as all these Uzbek-Tajiks politically lay under the United States, like the Khinzirs, all these migrants will go on freight trains back to their homeland.
                  This is the exchange. Well, and the fact that the slaves’ foreheads are cracking... But who cares?
                  Quote: Hyperion
                  The fox asked the crow
                  - Are you going to vote?
                  “No,” answered the crow. And the cheese fell out of her beak.
                  The crow thought, “And if I said Yes, what would change?”

                  You need to silently eat the cheese, and come to the elections with a fig in your pocket, and not click your beak at idiotic questions. Yes
                  1. 0
                    12 March 2024 11: 20
                    Quote: Zoer
                    Yes, even there the authorities are not really ignoring this “noise”, and they are losing the choice.

                    It’s as if we’ve already passed the point of no return. What will they do with the millions of migrants who have already arrived? Only mass deportation looks like an effective solution, but it is hard to believe that the Europeans will take such a step.
                    Quote: Zoer
                    The primary ones are the loyalty of the buyers to our leaders, and not to the American ones.

                    Hmm... Many Ukrainians came to Russia as guest workers. And what about loyalty? The question is rhetorical, but the example that such a strategy does not always work is clear. And why go far there..? Today's article on VO:
                    https://topwar.ru/237885-amerikancy-zahodjat-v-nashu-aziju-s-drugoj-storony.html
                    Quote: Zoer
                    come to the elections with a fig in your pocket

                    Rumor has it that if you keep a fig in your pocket while playing in a casino, your chance of winning increases by 146%.
                    But seriously, the size of the figs of those who count the votes is orders of magnitude larger than the size of the figs in the pockets of all Russians combined. A crappy way to influence the situation, to be honest.
                    1. +1
                      12 March 2024 11: 50
                      Quote: Hyperion
                      Hmm... Many Ukrainians came to Russia as guest workers. And what about loyalty? The question is rhetorical, but the example that such a strategy does not always work is clear.

                      Very visual, just confirming my words. Yes, Ukrainians came to work with us BEFORE 2014. Then, with the help of the Maidan, they made a change of power and a sharp turn to the west, and the same Ukrainians went to the EU to earn money. The bais do not foresee such an alternative, and the return of millions of unemployed Uzbek-Tajiks to their homeland carries a huge danger for the ruling circles of these countries.
                      Quote: Hyperion
                      the size of the figs of those who count the votes is orders of magnitude larger than the size of the figs in the pockets of all Russians combined. A crappy way to influence the situation, to be honest.

                      I didn’t seem to argue with this. I said from the very beginning that no one was going to give up power at the will of the people and is not going to. But they will have to pay attention to the request for a change of power, with all that it entails, if they have an instinct of self-preservation.
                      I'll give you a simple example. In St. Petersburg, the authorities decided to organize a renovation, similar to MSK. But it turned out that people from comfortable houses in comfortable areas, with metro and other developed infrastructure, were simply going to be evicted to human settlements, without hospitals and schools, without roads and metro. As a result, residents of entire districts urgently began to UNITE and create chats in their homes and neighborhoods. This greatly alarmed Smolny and eventually the initiative was curtailed. There will be no renovation.
                      1. 0
                        12 March 2024 12: 30
                        Quote: Zoer
                        the return of millions of unemployed Uzbek-Tajiks to their homeland poses a huge danger for the ruling circles of these countries

                        What kind of return can we talk about if He Himself said that we need migrants?
                        And don’t forget that hundreds of thousands of migrants receive Russian citizenship every year, and they are no longer migrants, but full-fledged Russians like you, with all the rights and even more, because In addition to the laws of Russia that protect them, they also have the support of diasporas.
                        Quote: Zoer
                        As a result, residents of entire districts urgently began to UNITE and create chats in their homes and neighborhoods.

                        Chats of entire districts in the public domain, promoting public outcry, are one thing, but counting ballots is a somewhat more private procedure, so.
                        It can be assumed that when the election results reach those who decide issues of national importance, they will already contain figures that irrefutably testify to the inextricable unity of the people with the Leader. Will any mayor or governor allow himself to trample on the high trust shown by the sovereign’s grace and darken the brow of His Serene Highness...? Already somewhere, and then they don’t realize how much a pound is worth.
                    2. 0
                      12 March 2024 12: 35
                      Quote: Hyperion
                      Today's article on VO:
                      https://topwar.ru/237885-amerikancy-zahodjat-v-nashu-aziju-s-drugoj-storony.html

                      By the way, watch. Soon Uzbeks will be expelled en masse from the Russian Federation, unless, of course, Uzbekistan has joined the sanctions not only on paper. But at least there should be statements from our side.
                      1. +1
                        12 March 2024 13: 01
                        Quote: Zoer
                        But at least there should be statements from our side.

                        You can be sure of this. Statements, concerns and other notes of protest from the Foreign Ministry will not rust. How long have you been able to do it?
                        As for deportation, most likely a couple of hundred Uzbeks will have to change their name after deportation and enter Russia again. Not without it...
  19. -1
    11 March 2024 07: 19
    I am amazed at the observational abilities and ability to draw conclusions from these observations of Russian Russians.
    I'm talking about the Russian Federation system.
    If it quacks like a duck, flies like a duck, swims like a duck, looks like a duck, it's most likely a duck.

    USSRF against Russians
  20. +7
    11 March 2024 07: 23
    Quote: carpenter
    And I have a feeling that the men in Russia have disappeared; after such a mockery of the people, wouldn’t it be weak to “put these migrants on pitchforks?”


    there are no "men" up there
    it is at their instigation that arbitrariness is taking place “on the ground”
    Look, the RF IC is “excited” about “wrong privatization” - 30 years later...
    I haven't seen it before...
    same here, problems there...
    1. +7
      11 March 2024 08: 39
      Well, the galley crab promised that “there will be no revisions of privatization.” Although he promised so much, but as soon as he started to get hot, he swam away.
  21. +10
    11 March 2024 07: 25
    Justice should not depend on a member of the SVO or a member of the MMA or a deputy, there should be one punishment if you committed a crime provided for by the Criminal Code, otherwise in our media they began to constantly indicate who or what the person who committed a crime is.
    This is wrong; something like this (to put it mildly)
    1. +6
      11 March 2024 08: 30
      Exactly. Not just a defendant, but an “influential businessman”, “famous blogger”, “socialite”... Initially, an idea of ​​​​the capabilities of the accused is laid down. hi
  22. +16
    11 March 2024 07: 28
    The situation in Russia is now beginning to painfully resemble the situation in Kosovo in the early 90s. Everything is absolutely the same. The Serb looked askance at the Albanian - in prison. The Albanian killed the Serb along with his family - at a rally of Albanians, where he shouted that the Serb had created unbearable things for him conditions, no punishment, of course, he did not receive from the Yugoslav authorities (these are actual memories of Yugoslav workers who worked in our company in the 2010s and lived in Kosovo in the 90s) As a result... 1998 came, open the articles... right there American "comrades" came to "help" Kosovo. And in Chechnya at the beginning of the 90s, the same thing began to happen. All this is far from just that, it is all being done in line with the intentions of the Enemy of Humanity - the conditional West. All these judges in Chelyabinsk should know for sure (and most likely clearly know) that with their decisions they are accelerating the emergence of new Kosovo, Chechnya on the territory of the Russian Federation, are accelerating the emergence of American “comrades” with the mission of saving national minorities oppressed by Russian imperialism. So, are they already our citizens? I just want to ask them, to paraphrase one Comrade, one question: “Who are you with,” “masters of judicial culture”? Interesting, the FSB is doing the work with these “judges”, because if not, then this is definitely playing into the hands of the demonic amerofascist West in the matter of internal destruction of Russia, which, it turns out, single-handedly defends the interests of the Forces of Light on this planet. Then the prospect is scary for us - hello, new EBN and the 90s...Therefore, the issue with judges and diasporas should now be placed at the forefront by our government, this is a matter of preserving the integrity of Russia.
  23. -9
    11 March 2024 07: 33
    I'll probably go for the minuses, calling on commentators to show at least a modicum of objectivity.
    What is happening to Russian justice?

    Nothing. It was “punitive” and remains so. Does everyone know the statistics on convictions? She, from memory, is 99.7%. In order to receive an acquittal, you must either “turn your fur inside out” or have reinforced concrete evidence of innocence. Many lawyers, having heard about the defendant’s desire to be acquitted, simply do not take up the “case”, promising only a mitigation of the article and sentence.
    In this case, there is a discussion of the event completely without the presence of objective data. No one knows the medical examiner's report on the cause of death. No one has seen the video recording data (and it probably exists if this is not a completely “bearish angle”), but the labels have already been hung, the culprit has been appointed!
    I’m not at all a supporter of the ongoing migrant policy, but gentlemen and comrades, let’s still be a little more objective and not organize a “witch hunt”! Otherwise we will become like those whom we often harshly condemn.
    1. +11
      11 March 2024 07: 49
      In this case, there is a discussion of the event completely without the presence of objective data.

      Listen...what objective data do you need? Was the person killed? Killed. This alone is enough to make you sit down! What other excuses could there be!? If in this Ali woman’s place there had been some Russian guy...he would have sat down for a long time.
      1. -2
        11 March 2024 07: 52
        Quote: Sanguinius
        Listen...what objective data do you need? Was the person killed? Killed. This alone is enough to make you sit down! What other excuses could there be!? If in this Ali woman’s place there had been some Russian guy...he would have sat down for a long time.

        And then these same people angrily comment on the controversial law enforcement practice of the article “On Self-Defense”! laughing request
        1. +5
          11 March 2024 07: 55
          Well, if we have, as you say, a punitive judicial system! So let him punish! And he doesn’t make incomprehensible concessions (as in this case).
          1. -3
            11 March 2024 08: 01
            Quote: Sanguinius
            But he doesn't incomprehensible concessions (as in this case).

            Again. It is not you, nor I, who have objective information on this case. Therefore, I personally will refrain from forming my opinion in this situation hi
            1. +10
              11 March 2024 08: 09
              The fact that the public “does not have information” is a sure sign that this public has once again been wiped out.

              And if she also “refrains from forming” - this is a sure sign that it is high time for her to go to the reservation. There it will be more convenient for the public to “abstain.” And it will be more convenient for the owners of the country to feel like masters.
              1. -2
                11 March 2024 08: 17
                Quote: ivan2022
                The fact that the public “does not have information” is a sure sign that this public has once again been wiped out.
                And if she also “refrains from forming” - this is a sure sign that it is high time for her to go to the reservation.

                Well, it was just conveyed to you in an article, in a form that is accessible and sufficient to form your opinion.
                “Give me the media, and I’ll turn any nation into a herd of pigs.”

                Don't remember whose phrase?
                There were also different “reservations” hi
            2. -1
              11 March 2024 08: 17
              Whoever has the information is the master. You just admitted that your number - as they say - is 16 or even lower.... And not me, but you, are satisfied with this. hi
            3. -10
              11 March 2024 09: 00
              Another interesting thing is that when a SVO member is killed by their own Russians, they don’t write about it here. It’s not “patriotic”, but there have been such cases. The author seized on the specifics of who the killer is by nationality, but there is no desire to consider the growing trend, why SVO fighters become victims crimes, and sometimes criminals. I joined your campaign for the cons. hi
              1. +9
                11 March 2024 09: 37
                Quote: parusnik
                Another interesting thing is when a SVO member is killed by his own Russians

                It is not entirely clear why you are moving the conversation from one lawlessness to another. Does this make the first thing more legal, or what? And then - as far as I remember, the punishment for murder is a little different
                A verdict was handed down in a high-profile case in Yakutia. Two men, aged 31 and 24, appeared in court. The court found them guilty of a terrible crime - they killed a Yakut citizen who returned from a special operation zone...
                ...The men received serious sentences - 16 and 17 years in a maximum security colony. The court also upheld the civil claim - the perpetrators must pay 2 million rubles to the relatives of the deceased.
                1. +1
                  11 March 2024 09: 56
                  This is lawlessness, part of a general trend, this is what you need to think about, why this is happening. This situation is not being addressed. And the murdered Yakut citizen is not a citizen of the Russian Federation? And his killers are not citizens of the Russian Federation?
                  1. +7
                    11 March 2024 09: 57
                    Quote: parusnik
                    And the murdered Yakut citizen is not a citizen of the Russian Federation? And his killers are not citizens of the Russian Federation?

                    In this case, justice was done in Yakutia. In Chelyabinsk - no. The discussion about trends is interesting, but the adequacy of justice is discussed
                    1. 0
                      11 March 2024 09: 58
                      Only, but the trend remains, why is this happening?
        2. +13
          11 March 2024 08: 09
          Self-defense in Russia is generally a thriller... for example, a Tajik pestered a girl because of her appearance... try to fight back... smile This self-defense will quickly result in you going to jail.
          Justice in our country is very specific and selective. request
        3. +9
          11 March 2024 09: 39
          Quote: Adrey
          And then these same people angrily comment on the controversial law enforcement practice of the article “On Self-Defense”

          A broken larynx is already an excess of self-defense to the fullest.
          1. 0
            12 March 2024 17: 14
            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            A broken larynx is already an excess of self-defense to the fullest.

            Hello dear Andrey.
            If the ITU conclusion says: “Death occurred as a result of asphyxia caused by reflexive cessation of breathing as a result of traumatic damage to the cartilage of the larynx,” then, of course, “Intentional infliction of grievous harm to health, moreover, resulting in the death of the victim. The direct influence of the defendant resulted in consequences causing death.
            And if: “Death occurred as a result of massive subarachnoid hemorrhage with a breakthrough into the ventricles of the brain” (with or without a fracture of the skull bones), then “Causing death by negligence.” There was an impact on the victim from the defendant, but it was not the direct cause of the latter’s death, but caused consequences (a fall) with an unpredictable result (a head injury might not have occurred).
            Does this moment give you any thoughts?
            Therefore, once again - Without knowing the ITU conclusions verbatim, it is counterproductive to draw conclusions. And even a judge cannot afford to treat ITU conclusions freely.
            Now about the video recording. Speaking about the “punitive” orientation of our justice, I know firsthand how this system could work, even if the video showed self-defense.
            The article is replaced with a lighter one, and the defendant is released contentedly (or almost). The investigation and the prosecutor's office did not work in vain - the criminal was found. The court fulfilled its task - the criminal was punished.
            Finish. Thanks to all, everyone is happy. Let's go our separate ways.
            These are the types of collisions that can occur request.
            Therefore, there is no reliable (documentary) objective information, and it is not worth forming your own (and public) opinion.
            Sincerely ... hi
          2. 0
            12 March 2024 17: 39
            And PS to the above.
            The state prosecution (prosecutor's office) has every right to disagree with the decision of the court of first instance and to file an appeal to the court of second instance with a request to keep the defendant in custody for the time required to make a decision (after the decision of the court of second instance, the sentence comes into force). If this was not done, then why??? Was everyone happy with everything?
            1. +2
              12 March 2024 17: 54
              Quote: Adrey
              Does this moment give you any thoughts?

              Andrey, have you ever practiced hand-to-hand combat? I was very keen at one time... for many years. I started with judo, then karate, and boxing was the icing on the cake. I didn’t reach the heights, I still lacked a lot of reaction, but I could do something. In addition, I read a lot, watched, talked with masters of various types of martial arts.
              So, for some reason you reduce everything to the cause of death. And I tell you that regardless of this, a fracture of the larynx is ALREADY an excess of self-defense. Known. Even if all the damage to the victim was limited to just this larynx.
              The larynx does not accidentally break in a fight. In order to break it, you need
              1) Target it specifically.
              2) Decently superior to the enemy in skill
              Generally speaking, a blow to the larynx falls into the category of lethal (see the instructions of the Green Berets, for example). As a matter of fact, such a blow is justified only if the enemy attacks you with a weapon. But usually, even if the enemy attacked with a knife, and you broke his larynx, it is you who will be guilty and it is you who will be sent to places not so remote for exceeding the permissible limits of self-defense. It will be extremely difficult to get out of this, unless you let the enemy cut you with this knife first.
              Quote: Adrey
              If this was not done, then why??? Was everyone happy with everything?

              Apparently, yes.
              In general, this verdict is a mockery of justice in its purest form.
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              2. 0
                12 March 2024 18: 15
                Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                So, for some reason you reduce everything to the cause of death.

                In judicial practice, a “killer” argument is a proven direct cause-and-effect relationship. Indirect cause-and-effect relationships are from the category: “Like that blonde - 50/50.”
                The progress of the process raises suspicions that the cause of death was not a fracture of the cartilage of the larynx. hi
                1. +2
                  12 March 2024 20: 03
                  Again. A fracture of the larynx is a deliberate excess of self-defense, regardless of whether the person died from it or not. This is the infliction of serious or moderate bodily harm.
                  1. 0
                    16 March 2024 21: 18
                    You read the article above, since you’re sitting in the comments.
                    there, the defense achieved that the push-back (not even a blow!) was not intentional and the cause of death was hitting his head on the curb.
                    stupid formulations of one concept - white bread, white loaf of bread, white bakery product. For us it’s the same thing, for the cops there are different types and different responsibilities when applying these formulations.
                    a competent lawyer helps you get away with these formulations, a bad lawyer asks you to write a confession in the first hours of interrogation.
                    personal experience.
    2. +8
      11 March 2024 10: 46
      Quote: Adrey
      In this case, there is a discussion of the event completely without the presence of objective data. No one knows the medical examiner's report on the cause of death. No one has seen the video recording data (and it probably exists if this is not exactly a “bearish angle”), but the labels have already been hung, the culprit has been appointed!

      Get out of pre-trial detention in half a year or a year for murder? Well, even if self-defense is exceeded, this does not always work out in our justice system. And then, under a more serious charge, he was released. Are you seriously trying to claim some kind of objectivity?
      1. -1
        12 March 2024 17: 26
        Above I wrote a response to Andrey from Chelyabinsk, read it if you are interested so that I don’t repeat it hi
    3. 2al
      +6
      11 March 2024 10: 47
      I just can’t resist, I’ll remind you about a 6-year-old “drunk boy”, according to the results of a forensic examination. By the way, the court decision does not contain any reference to the forensic examination and video.
      “The court convicted Mikhail Kleimenov, a doctor from the Moscow region Bureau of Forensic Medicine, who erroneously determined the presence of alcohol in the blood of a child who died in an accident in Balashikha, according to the website of the Investigative Committee of Russia. As noted by the representative of the Investigative Committee, Svetlana Petrenko, Kleimenov was sentenced to 10 months of correctional labor.
      In the spring of 2017, 31-year-old resident of Balashikha Olga Alisova, driving a Hyundai Solaris, violated traffic rules and killed six-year-old Roman Shimko. The first examination found 2,7 ppm of alcohol in the blood of the deceased child. A repeated examination confirmed this conclusion."
  24. +9
    11 March 2024 08: 12
    Full name of the judge to the studio! The country should know the names of the “honest judges.”
  25. +3
    11 March 2024 08: 42
    But everyone will still go to vote for the current government...
    1. 0
      16 March 2024 21: 20
      Even if you piss in their eyes, it’s all God’s dew (c)
  26. +13
    11 March 2024 08: 45
    The entire Russian migration policy is sanctioned from the very top; if only there was the will of the government, order would be restored. In my opinion, migrants put pressure on the indigenous population so that they do not get involved in politics and do not ask questions that are not convenient for the authorities, especially in the legal field, who is our president, what kind of system do we have, are we a colony, why is there no clause against everyone on the ballot? by voting? So they will dump all the discontent on the migrants, restore order and say how great we are in the government.
    1. 0
      16 March 2024 21: 26
      Without migrants, it will turn out that our population is dying out.
      before 2014 there were just under 143 million of us.
      after Crimea is ours and the DPR and LPR = it became about 145 million.
      then there was coronavirus and population decline. In my circle of friends, 2-3 men and a couple of women died during this period. All after illness.
      Now 3 more regions have been drawn in = again there will be about 145+ million.
      at the same time, about 10-15 million Tajik-Kyrgyz-Uzbeks received growth. passports (after the influx in 2019-2023) + refugees from Ukraine during the crisis.
      in total, according to the census it will again be about 145-150 million.
      The next census is in December 2028 (micro) and 2030 large.
      check my words.
  27. +6
    11 March 2024 08: 51
    When the pogroms begin, then the authorities may begin to move.
  28. 0
    11 March 2024 08: 54
    I opened YouTube and immediately saw the first video:
  29. +1
    11 March 2024 09: 06
    Well, what is all this for?..? Do you need Putin again? Deal with the authorities and the judges yourself.. what is weak? Then turn to China for help. They remember and honor the help of the USSR. They will lead the troops and restore order. NONSANE? No. .this is where chaos is happening. And when they kill your child, you will understand. And here for protection all means are justified.
  30. -3
    11 March 2024 09: 10
    The author is subjective. Objectively, whoever contributed more will have the judge’s decision in his favor. The rest is emotions. The injured party would have brought in more and the Tajik would have gone to sew pea coats for the Northern Military District. Yes, the diaspora can bring in more than the average Russian, but this is no longer the judge’s problem. I can also safely assume that the negative behavior of the victim was confirmed by 10-20 fellow countrymen of the accused, but there were no fellow countrymen witnesses from the injured party, because “We don’t have informers,” “They’ll drag you through the courts,” and all that. I've encountered this more than once in my career.
    1. +7
      11 March 2024 10: 20
      That is, in your opinion, the relatives of the deceased must also pay for justice, and also beat the price of the opposite side. This is no longer justice, but some kind of auction, whose last bid is the one who makes the bank
      1. 0
        2 May 2024 13: 38
        it was ironic, but the truth is somewhere nearby.
    2. 0
      11 March 2024 14: 34
      Why do you think that a comrade from the SVO could not have been drunk and behaved inappropriately?
      1. 0
        2 May 2024 13: 40
        I admit it, but this does not change the situation as a whole. 100 people will pay more for a ruble than 2 people for 10 rubles.
  31. +8
    11 March 2024 09: 39
    As long as people continue to get away with crimes, nothing will change. Either the diaspora is recognized as an organized crime group with the corresponding conclusions, or citizens need to start killing the guilty in the toilets. Yes, lynching is bad, but how can you continue to tolerate lawlessness?
    1. 0
      11 March 2024 17: 18
      Quote: realist
      Yes, lynching is bad, but how can you continue to tolerate lawlessness?

      You tell this to those Russians who were driven out of the republics after the collapse of the USSR.
      They will believe you.
      1. +1
        15 March 2024 13: 07
        My aunts and their families lived in Dushanbe and Tashkent. I know the story from their words. both moved to Russia.
  32. +7
    11 March 2024 09: 40
    It's simple. An unknown person killed an unknown person.
    What danger does this pose for the authorities? Yes, none. This act is dangerous only for the lochtorat, and there are many of them, why feel sorry for him.
    Well, it’s a completely different story when a popular person writes sedition, it’s dangerous for the authorities. So he needs to be caulked away and longer, so that he doesn’t confuse the herd of voters with his thoughts.
  33. +21
    11 March 2024 09: 41
    Statements that the SVO began to protect the Russians always caused laughter. They cannot protect Russians in Russia itself, but they have invaded Ukraine.
  34. +1
    11 March 2024 09: 47
    Everything is very simple. The power of the Supermind creates an inferiority complex among the Russian population of the poor strata, potential soldiers, so that by participating in the Northern Military District in battle this complex will be compensated. Well, at the same time they kept the local population respected. a principle known to dog handlers - to make them angrier wink
  35. +8
    11 March 2024 09: 53
    A logical question arises: what is happening to Russian justice and why are such strange and illogical decisions being made?

    Nothing new here, everything is as usual. Previously, there was ingratiation with Ukrainians; the Ukrianization of the south of the USSR was carried out deliberately by the Soviet authorities. What this led to is now clearly visible. The same ingratiation happened with the Chechens, who in the 00xx had indulgence for any lawlessness in the country. Which ultimately led to the high-profile murder of E. Sviridov and riots in Moscow. Now the Uzbek-Tajiks are allowed everything. Only these rulers do not realize that if it blazes NOW...
    Well, one more thing. The way plebeians slaughter each other is somehow not very interesting to the authorities. But shaking the throne is IMPOSSIBLE! That is why Girkin is in prison, and another Oslanbek murderer is walking free. That is why, the one who asked a policeman for a paper cup is sitting at a navalning, and yet another Oslanbek, who hit a policeman with a car, is walking free.
  36. +12
    11 March 2024 09: 54
    Personally, I don’t understand why these MMA beasts are released onto the streets. After all, the MMA fighter himself, his body is already a weapon. And plus in the head there is a pumping up for victory, for beating, even killing an opponent, which could be ANY of us. If such a jock gets hurt in transport, get it in the face, you’re in the hospital, and it’s good if not in the cemetery, but the judges will write “hooliganism.”
    For all these MMA athletes involved, ANY use of force must be looked at under a microscope. If his victim has even moderate bodily injuries (well, just think, he went on sick leave with consequences), then the case should initially be considered under the article “using a weapon,” and let this MMA specialist prove that he “didn’t mean to, the victim himself fell.”
    1. +9
      11 March 2024 10: 09
      Quote: Not the fighter
      Personally, I don’t understand why these MMA beasts are released onto the streets.

      I personally don’t understand why these valuable specialists are brought to us under the pretense that the locals don’t want to work. So these visitors don’t work, but hone their fighting skills in closed MMA gyms, and then beat up our compatriots on the streets. WHY is this being done? Is this Putin’s plan to increase the demographics in the country? What is going on?
      1. 0
        16 March 2024 21: 30
        I'll put it even simpler.
        Are you walking down the street to your car? who cleans your asphalt with a crowbar? Russian guy? or a strong young Tajik? If you swing a crowbar for half a day, your arms will fall off, but he’s shaking the powerhouse.
        then you get into a fight with him - you think, he’s a frail little Tajik boy, now he’ll use his left hand, and then he’ll knock you unconscious.
        everything is visible and readable, but our authorities continue to pump the country full of Tajiks with runners with delivery suitcases on their backs and hard-working security forces for physical work. strength.
        While the elite and men are lazily pumping up the relief in the gym, these real muscles are doing and looking at us like wolf cubs, at our cars, apartments, girls. Spitting in their direction.
        someday testosterone hormones will play. They are not developed by the male to be afraid of weak males. Nature. Biology.
  37. +9
    11 March 2024 09: 55
    We have a program on TV every day where different cases are shown in court, but the main thing that all these shows have in common is that all residents of Russia are constantly and endlessly taught to address judges - “your honor”, ​​what kind of honor can we talk about in such judging, and after all this not an isolated case. I think the legal system needs reform and updating, the judge should conduct the trial, but decisions in criminal cases and cases of corruption must be made by the jury
    1. +1
      11 March 2024 10: 11
      As for the jury, read what I wrote above. In corruption cases, the jury will fall asleep halfway through the case.
    2. +8
      11 March 2024 10: 43
      In rotten America, the judge is chosen by the citizens. The sheriff, the head of the police, are again chosen by the citizens. Our judges, in addition to exorbitant salaries and privileges, have immunity, immunity and complete freedom of action. Although, for the slightest violation of the law, the judge must be thrown out of the profession in disgrace.
      1. +2
        11 March 2024 17: 21
        Quote: Nicola
        Although, for the slightest violation of the law, the judge should leave the profession in disgrace.

        And no longer work in any government position...
        1. 0
          16 March 2024 21: 32
          The Mutko-Rogozins, Vasilievs-Serdyukovs look with a smile at such stupidity written by you..
          What a decaying West this is, not like we are progressing!
  38. +3
    11 March 2024 09: 58
    People try not to get involved with law enforcement officers; don’t expect anything good from them. That's why many people ignore the crimes that are happening. If you intercede, intervene, you will either die yourself or find yourself guilty. And no one will help
  39. +3
    11 March 2024 10: 08
    I hope normal Chelyabinsk guys will resolve the issue with this cheburek normally, if the state cannot!! In general, the judge’s actions should be checked!! Such a bastard should not be a judge!
  40. +2
    11 March 2024 10: 09
    Another confirmation of the destruction of justice in our country. Previously, similar behavior occurred on the part of the brothers. And current migrants have essentially taken their place. Profession towards law enforcement agencies. Why do they act against various organized crime groups, but not against migrants who also have their own separate organization? There are also questions for the head of the Investigative Committee. He effectively dealt with pedophiles, but why doesn’t he do the same with chumps?
  41. +5
    11 March 2024 10: 10
    The Russian court is the most humane court in the world. His task is to cause anger among the population against the current government. And maybe it's not free.
  42. +6
    11 March 2024 10: 12
    Chelyabinsk courts are so harsh that they almost gave the deceased 15 years for “inciting ethnic hatred”...
  43. -1
    11 March 2024 10: 15
  44. +4
    11 March 2024 10: 36
    Has the entire vertical of power already been purchased? Has the country been sold to crooks? Who will start cleaning the Augean stables and when? Why are all these migrants not at the front? Or is it business again and nothing personal?
  45. +3
    11 March 2024 10: 39
    . what is happening to Russian justice


    Nothing happens. How can something happen to something that doesn't exist?
  46. +3
    11 March 2024 10: 41
    Obviously, in this case, it could not have happened without the intervention of diasporas, which, as is known, have great influence in Russia.

    The intervention of diasporas is banal corruption and bribery. They brought the money to whoever needed it, and now the killer is free.
  47. +4
    11 March 2024 10: 46
    As long as the diasporas support the current government, they will be in chocolate. And they will support it, because the current government is doing everything to increase the number and welfare of diasporas, because they can be used to eliminate unwanted opposition, and to squeeze out business, etc.
  48. +2
    11 March 2024 10: 50
    I’m wondering what the same people would say if a Russian member of the SVO under the same circumstances killed a Tajik and the killer was given the same sentence? Would you require justification?
  49. +5
    11 March 2024 10: 51
    An amazing thing - the former Minister of Defense of the DPR, reserve FSB Colonel Igor Strelkov (Girkin) receives a real sentence for a personal emotional assessment of the progress of a special military operation on social networks, while the person who killed a participant in this same military operation receives a suspended sentence and is released to freedom

    "This is the way" (c)
    Nasty all this
  50. +3
    11 March 2024 11: 05
    Well, comrades, make some noise in the comments and you can disperse. There have been so many such articles here, and many are still there, so what will happen to you. Your, and mine, opinions that we express here are of no interest to anyone. The situation will change only when such people, on the other hand, “burn under their feet” from such things. And as a postscript - there is something like that in the way it was in one, albeit sub-state, when you threw brilliant green into the trash can.
  51. +6
    11 March 2024 11: 11
    Any government that plays WITH ITS OWN POPULATION is not chess or checkers, but “Chapayev” - Chapaev will get it. In the logical chain, diasporas - ethnic mafias - war for property - war for power - destruction of the aborigines, the next step has been taken. To the collapse of Russia.

    PS The salvation of the Papuans is the work of the Papuans themselves.
  52. +7
    11 March 2024 11: 17
    Here is an example of “impartial justice”. Gentlemen (comrades), have you seen any signs of corruption here? After this, the judges deserve to be addressed only by: Your meanness, Your venality, Your corruption, and so on down the list. After such verdicts, judges must be checked for bribes and illegal income. And if the judge was forced to make an illegal decision through blackmail or intimidation. Then those involved in this should get the maximum. Under the article terrorism and assassination attempt. Otherwise, what do we get? Cowards and hucksters are in power. “Diasporas” already rule the country. Is it that such a power vertical has been built? And the tax-paying population shouts HURRAY and general approval!!!
  53. +5
    11 March 2024 11: 21
    Long live our court, the most humane court in the world!
  54. +4
    11 March 2024 11: 39
    I hope those who returned from the Northern Military District will begin to cut out this migrant tumor and the men will join them. And the judges will be judged fairly
    1. +7
      11 March 2024 12: 24
      Quote from Cartograph
      I hope those who return from SVO will begin to cut out this migrant tumor

      Just anyone who tries to not only kill, but even give kicks to migrants, will be imprisoned for harsh terms. This is not for you.
  55. +7
    11 March 2024 11: 43
    Are we all voting for Putin?? What did he do during his 23 years of rule?? Stalin raised the country from ruins twice during this period
    1. 0
      11 March 2024 19: 37
      How did you do what?
      Pension reform!
    2. 0
      11 March 2024 20: 53
      To be more precise, Putin has ruled the Russian Federation for 24 years, 2 months, 11 days.
  56. +3
    11 March 2024 11: 48
    ALAS. So it was and so it will be. Just words, words...
  57. +3
    11 March 2024 12: 23
    It seems that these judges are being given the necessary sums from the criminal common fund to commute their sentences.
    This is not normal... after such sentences, judges should be checked for bribes and illegal income and put in prison along with repeat offenders.
    The system of impunity for judges encourages the decay of the entire law enforcement system with the ensuing consequences.

    According to the constitution, the judge is chosen by the people (..and not appointed..), but in our country they spit on the constitution and take it for themselves. Therefore, what we want... the flock must obey the shepherd... belay
  58. +4
    11 March 2024 12: 37
    My country, how sick you are...
    1. +5
      11 March 2024 13: 06
      Poklonskaya, how they threw mud at her! But she was not afraid of either the “boots” in Crimea or Bandera’s followers! She went against it, and not every man could do that. There were hardly any gangs like those in Crimea anywhere in the post-Soviet space. 100 percent - the migrant mafia would not be afraid either.
      1. 0
        16 March 2024 21: 41
        and how do you feel about her three actions. the points.
        1) She supported a schismatic monk living somewhere in Siberia-Ural. I went to him for advice, asked for grace. When he was anathematized and defrocked, she defended him to the last.
        2) To the Immortal Regiment event, where everyone carried their grandfathers and fathers, she carried a portrait of Nicholas 2, who died somewhere on the fronts of the Second World War.
        3) She was introduced to the personal diary of Nicholas 2, written by his own hand, lying in the archives AND EVEN there is an online copy of it in the public domain, where our Tsar-Sovereign described his sex with Matilda, shooting at cats and crows, the famous stampede of 1905 (The king danced at the ball and this sad news only slightly upset him, but did not cancel the dance). etc.
        She stated that it was all a lie and he was a saint.
        4) Before her eyes, the icons streamed myrrh through one, and a miracle happened, although there were people nearby and no one else could confirm it. A miracle is happening - why tell the world about this? Poklonskaya sees him and okay. Others don't need to know or see.
        5) from the pluses, I’ll add. They appointed her as the head of the anti-corruption committee, so she, the fool, even dug up her husband and his superiors (in addition to ordinary deputies), ran around the Kremlin with a folder of compromising evidence and scared everyone there with it. In the end, it was a divorce and the folder never came into use. Poklonskaya was removed from this committee.

        After these facts and her biography, I reconsidered my opinion about her. I used to like her too. But the exile in Capo Verde after that monk seems deserved. Although, maybe they were afraid that when fighting corruption, she didn’t understand who really needed to be caught and who to turn a blind eye to.

        PS: write down point by point, if it’s not difficult, how you feel about her actions above.
        1. 0
          16 March 2024 21: 49
          This is her personal matter. Many people don't care about this. But what doesn’t matter is that she was one of those who brought Crimea to the Crimean Spring.” March 18 is a day off in Crimea. And without such brave people there would not have been a “Russian Spring.” It’s bad that in the place of heroes who The crooks who don't fit into the system come in. They, of course, won't talk about myrrh-streaming. They just steal, like this Ovsyannikov.
          1. 0
            16 March 2024 22: 01
            You can also undermine her for her support of Crimea. She came from Kyiv, was an opportunist precisely for the imposition of Ukrainization in the republic (although she herself wore embroidered shirts and took pictures openly), so she fights with any regime, be it Ukraine, be it Russia.
            How come I know her biography well - I liked it, I monitored the news about her. I liked her as a visual woman, I liked her as an ideological fighter for justice. I listened to Inzhoikin’s clip about Nyash-myash :)
            But in the end, since you don’t want to evaluate her actions, I will give it myself - she has lost her mind. Couldn't stand the load, responsibility, stress? There are a lot of cockroaches and some “stupid things” there. And she, as a prosecutor, as an investigator, having facts and evidence in the form of Niko 2’s diary, called this a fake, although she was taken around the museum and allowed to touch this diary, I saw the video myself. And you can even find an online diary if you spend about 10 minutes searching in Yandex.
            1. 0
              17 March 2024 09: 07
              And what is she from Kyiv? So what? What did you go with Nicholas II? The country reports every day about traitors from Moscow, Yekaterinburg and other cities who worked for the Ukrainian special services.
  59. +6
    11 March 2024 13: 08
    There should be a death penalty for murder. Especially for the murder of a Russian! Interethnic strife is primarily when “guests” hurt the interests of Russians, who are the majority, the nation on which Russia rests! Officials who pass such sentences should be treated as accomplices - also the death penalty!
  60. +4
    11 March 2024 14: 05
    We have a wonderful example of the most decorated high school student in this part of the galaxy. He is the son of the guarantor's trustee. Why the hell do you write these stupid articles if everything is clear to the most idiot?
    1. 0
      16 March 2024 21: 47
      This Adam will raise a military coup against us in the future.
      Now they’re kissing him on the ass, and when his dad stops commanding these highlanders, his son will want to become the queen of heaven.
      We will see everything, there will be enough adventures for our lifetime.
      Ukraine and Tajiks will seem like nonsense.
  61. -4
    11 March 2024 14: 26
    Was the author there? How could he know what happened there? Did he read the investigation materials? Questioning witnesses? Where is the argument? At least I could find witnesses and talk to them.
    Just fabrications.
  62. -6
    11 March 2024 14: 29
    Before you file claims in court, as everyone here likes to do! Maybe we should pay close attention to how investigative agencies work?! The judge proceeds, if anything, from the materials of the investigation and the arguments of the parties! And if the arguments of one of the parties are, to put it mildly, untenable, then the decision is accordingly! And before you shout that the courts have been bought, the diaspora is evil, please provide convincing evidence!
    1. +5
      11 March 2024 15: 45
      Quote: Vladimir Lenin
      before shouting that the courts are bought, the diaspora is evil,

      There is no need to prove anything - this is a priori true.
  63. +4
    11 March 2024 15: 40
    Quote: Taimen
    In power are cowards and hucksters

    In power, the enemies of the people sit on traitors and drive thieves. negative
  64. +2
    11 March 2024 15: 43
    We all condemn this, but we condemn it only on the Internet. Everyone wrote a comment and calmed down on this.. But no one will write a complaint to the prosecutor’s office, deputies, social activists, journalists, etc. Nobody! No noise from the people! So they don’t hear us. We are not friendly, our hut is on the edge. And they are friendlier. And the diasporas rule, because corruption is everywhere! We are money hungry. Diasporas are bribing everyone and everything! And it feels like they are being fed from outside with money. They are bribing everyone and without support they would not have been able to turn around like this, including apparently pushing through a law on inciting ethnic hatred, which can now easily be used as a cover for any crimes against Russians. I’ve never heard of Russians having their own diasporas in any country! Nowhere! and I believe that such organizations threaten the country and should be eliminated! The affairs of foreigners should be decided by the consulates, period.
  65. +3
    11 March 2024 16: 06
    Diasporas are actively negotiating with law enforcement agencies and the courts. Corruption, unfortunately. Just yesterday the holiday of “multinational Maslenitsa” was announced in Chelyabinsk.
  66. 0
    11 March 2024 16: 16
    Quote: 16112014nk
    There is no need to prove anything - this is a priori true.

    Wow, I remember even when the Bolsheviks put their enemies against the wall and they didn’t stoop to that level! And you talk just like a highway bandit! “Your only fault is that I want to eat!” - so what?!
  67. -2
    11 March 2024 16: 24
    Russia is for russians! Down with autocracy!
  68. -2
    11 March 2024 16: 24
    Russia is for russians! Down with autocracy!
  69. 0
    11 March 2024 16: 44
    SVOshniks return from the war. They will show who is boss in Russia
    1. 0
      11 March 2024 16: 47
      A couple of calls - and the company gathered. And there is at least a diaspora, at least a horde!
  70. +4
    11 March 2024 17: 12
    Diasporas are structures somewhat similar to the Mexican cartels operating in the United States. Russia is very similar in this regard. The same abundance of low-skilled human resources arriving on the territory. Lack of language knowledge. Rejection of culture and lack of assimilation. Imposing one's culture, customs, practices, and religious principles. Penetration into judicial, law enforcement, and mass media systems.
    Business penetration. In the end, it will be like in the USA, France, England, Germany, only with its own flavor. So far I really don't like all this.
  71. +4
    11 March 2024 19: 00
    Matveev (State Duma deputy) is interested in why maintaining the current population size at any cost, and what is more important - our people or the cherished figure of 150 million, even if the inhabitants of Russia are called Babidzhons? He emphasizes:
    Any state is built around its people and replacing them does not make any sense. What is the point in Russia at all if we pass it on not to our children, but to strangers? And even statesmen must understand that if the Ivanovs are replaced by the Eggplants, the elite will also be replaced by the Eggplants - that is, their children and grandchildren will not be there... (C)
    ____________
    Personally, I don’t want to argue with the deputy at all...politics, administrative power, law enforcement and legal structures, medicine, education, and culture will quietly take over. So, what is next?
    1. +1
      16 March 2024 21: 49
      The Prime Minister of Ireland is Pakistani.
      the mayor of London is Indian or Pakistani, I don’t remember.
      we will have the same.
      while 10 Russians vote for 5-10 different parties, a Muslim will vote for a Muslim.
      So, gradually, Tajik mayors will begin to appear in our country, and then the governors of Birobidzhon.. Autonomous Region, Territory, Republic, etc.
  72. +3
    11 March 2024 19: 16
    Good evening everyone.
    I noticed that migrants from Central Asia are causing chaos in big cities. But we don’t hear about their lawlessness in the cities of the national republics. It’s hard for me to imagine that they could organize such excesses in Buryatia. Maybe the fact is that society itself allows such things to happen?
    Several years ago, in our republic, in Khakassia, there was a case. A visitor from a trauma center shot and killed a local during a drunken brawl in a bar. Following this, mass pogroms of cafes and bars began, where the owners were local youth from Azerbaijan: they came in, broke everything, and beat non-locals with bats (including some locals). Some of the guys were imprisoned. But it was dangerous for people of Caucasian appearance to appear in the city in the evening for several days, until everything calmed down.
    We have a lot of visiting Kyrgyz and Tajiks. But I have never seen or heard them behave brazenly. Because the locals will commit “genocide”.
    In big cities there is no unification of the masses, no sense of unity, unlike national republics. Therefore, visiting migrants allow themselves to do this.
    1. 0
      16 March 2024 21: 51
      Yesterday, a representative of the people, “Shoigu” Jr., hacked one with an ax (they write that he did not kill him, but the blows were harsh - I watched the video yesterday, I don’t think he will survive in the end), and he also stabbed another under the stairs.
      He is 33 years old. Killed at least two, count. Unmotivated, in broad daylight, a bunch of videos.
      So we’ll see how it will be promoted without the support of the diaspora.
  73. 0
    11 March 2024 20: 59
    The fact that our justice is “one-sided”, I think, is known to many who have at least once encountered it even tangentially, and in the future it can be even worse, our long-suffering allows them to ride on us and everything goes towards this! fool
  74. -3
    11 March 2024 21: 22
    This is "Russian World". Chikhildyr dyryldyr dyryldyr.
    :)
  75. +1
    11 March 2024 23: 14
    A thief should sit in jail ...
  76. +2
    12 March 2024 00: 37
    No, how come... It doesn’t add up. I watch every speech of our esteemed president. And there is not a word about the power of diasporas. It's about the power of the law, the people and their power. So what happens, the president is lying?)
  77. +1
    12 March 2024 00: 58
    If the Russian corrupt courts are not changed, then lynchings will begin, spontaneously arising from SVO fighters and Russian men. Bastrykin really doesn’t understand that this whole story with the corruption of the law enforcement system will end?
  78. 0
    12 March 2024 01: 15
    Law and order in all its disgusting glory.
  79. +3
    12 March 2024 01: 23
    I myself have come across our “jurisprudence”, which is capable of justifying any crime and pulling the law by the ears to any drawbar. In my case, I tried to protest a document that was forged for me, and not very skillfully. At the first instance, it was said “since I did not express my objection in an explicit way (in writing), this can be considered my consent, and it does not matter who and how it was formalized,” to my objection that the law provides for “consent”, and not “lack of objection”, they explained to me that my evidence is insignificant in value and can be ignored. )) And in a personal conversation they very politely explained where whose place is, and who is better off knowing it exactly. So, nothing surprising or unexpected. This system, which was supposed to become a stronghold of justice and the rule of law, turned into a lever of pressure, protection and grinding of dissent. It has nothing to do with the law. From my point of view, the judicial system was destroyed by the practice of “lack of jurisdiction of the judge” and the principle of “overpayment to avoid financial interest.” This led to impunity (which, as we know, breeds permissiveness) and extreme controllability (for fear of losing such a satisfying salary, these lawyers will do any game recommended from above). So, if a “summons” arises and a recommendation is sent down from above, the judges will fall apart, but they will carry it out, well, not as a turner at a factory and then go to work for 40 thousand, when an uncontrollable judge is replaced by a controlled one? So, everything is extremely logical, predictable and hopeless. The girl gets a nickel for the price tag against the SVO, and for the murder of the same SVO - a condition.
    1. 0
      16 March 2024 21: 53
      I will repeat my post. I am sharing my personal experience.

      I was sued once.
      went through three courts - my local small-town, Moscow region, Moscow central - everywhere they confirmed the previous verdict. I invested a lot of money and spent a lot of time - almost 1.5 years.
      but I learned about the venality and corruption of the system. I learned to see lawyers from afar, who “oh, it’s no big deal! Pay 100% in advance, and I’ll do everything,” and then they don’t answer the phone and are super busy. I met my first scammers in my personal life. I never thought or knew how everything worked there. Found out.
      an experience that will not be written in books and no one will tell you until you get dirty yourself.

      PS: I'll add.
      they wrote in the cart yesterday - the father of his son, who was crushed in an accident, staged lynching and killed the culprit + his lawyer. there they also excused me and gave me 1.5 years, most of which have already passed.
      Dagestan.
  80. 0
    12 March 2024 02: 04
    INDIGNANT!!! CORRUPCIÓN JUDICIAL!!!!
  81. 0
    12 March 2024 04: 27
    We chatted and that's it. That's not right. It is necessary to come up with a method of counteraction strictly in accordance with the law. Private investigation of the case. Data collection. Publicity. Detecting irregularities in work. Running service checks. The question is how to sponsor this organization, they will say that it is a nationalist...
  82. 0
    12 March 2024 09: 05
    “Most Russians do not seem to know that migration programs to Russia were carried out by International Organizations, the World Bank, the European Union, foreign governments, for example, our outspoken enemy Britain and Western NGOs...”
    https://actualno.mirtesen.ru/blog/43...er=mirtesen.ru
    This is where the “ears” grow from...
    The West, having rejected common sense, crapped itself to its very tonsils with this “tolerance” and, in retaliation, palmed off the problem on us. Unfortunately, those in power in Russia did not immediately consider the danger that threatened us.
  83. +1
    12 March 2024 09: 21
    The fact is that the saying: the law is what the drawbar is, where you turn it and it comes out... it doesn’t go anywhere. Do not forget that the Criminal Code for Russia was written in the USA, this is no secret and in the long term it is aimed at destroying Russia’s human resource. And the issue with migrants must be resolved quickly; these people are alien to us mentally, religiously and professionally. If one of the officials (KHUSNULLIN and others) believes that this will not affect him...it will affect him and his loved ones and relatives. It will just happen later, but IMMENSIBLE!
  84. +2
    12 March 2024 14: 30
    Isn’t it time to force judges to move with all their belongings and household members across the country every 3 years, like the military... They are paid their salaries from the budget, and when they stay in one place, they are already paid extra by local “clans”. Therefore, 25 years of nomadic life will not prevent justice from being fair... And then retire with a clear conscience...
  85. 0
    12 March 2024 14: 59
    What is happening to Russian justice?

    Representatives of the fifth column settled there. This is not the first time that terrorists have received such ridiculous punishments.
  86. +1
    12 March 2024 16: 14
    You ask what is happening, internal betrayal and the fifth column! Khrushchev rested nervously when he released Bandera.
  87. 0
    12 March 2024 17: 17
    No law, No justice. Civil war is on the horizon. It doesn't seem any different.
  88. +1
    12 March 2024 17: 28
    I would like to ask whether it is true that our judge makes a sentence guided by his inner convictions. All my life I believed that a judge should pronounce a sentence guided by the laws. If this is not so, then all this is very bad and does not bode well for everyone in the future.
  89. +1
    12 March 2024 18: 03
    I think everything is clear to the author.
    On the one hand, a member of the SVO. But it’s not embroidered with gold on his clothes, He’s the same as everyone else here. That is, he’s a human being. (remember the words “elites” - “tax for the poor”)
    On the other hand, it’s not even the untouchable “elite”, in whose presence “you will only smile” (not verbatim), but its toys, a modern gladiator - an MMA fighter.
    Naturally, they take care of toys and help them out of trouble.
    To recall from the well-known - the case of a drunk boy, the wife of a deputy who danced on the Moscow Ring Road, all sorts of drunken deputies-air passengers and their relatives (and no one fell into anyone, as you know who) - all of them got out with the minimum.

    Well, the Strelkovs who do not fit into the government, human rights activists, coordinators and leftists who can pull back votes...well, you know..
  90. +1
    12 March 2024 21: 22
    Some diasporas in the city (Novosibirsk - author's note) are in a more comfortable state than ordinary citizens.

    The political weight of diasporas in Chelyabinsk is so serious that it allows them to obtain almost any court decisions.

    What you can see is mafia organizations that have spread and are still spreading throughout the country, covering up the criminal acts of their fellow tribesmen! And why doesn't anyone react to this?
  91. +1
    14 March 2024 00: 52
    That’s why the authorities are afraid to create territorial defense regiments and brigades in the regions, because people with weapons will not go to fight in Ukraine, but will first of all “clean up” their native region from criminal diasporas and officials who sold out to them....
    And suddenly it turns out that without thieving, corrupt bureaucrats and “valuable Asian specialists” life in Russia is much better.....
    And suddenly the neighboring regions will take an example and carry out similar “cleansing” operations.....
  92. +1
    14 March 2024 12: 00
    As far as I understand, a judge is practically a lifelong function. Once approved, go ahead and get rich.
    This means that this phenomenon needs to be eliminated.
    Judges must change. Those who are at fault must be dismissed from refereeing for life. And the opinion of citizens when appointing or confirming judges must be taken into account somehow
  93. 0
    15 March 2024 04: 57
    What's happening? It's for sale!!!!!!"
  94. 0
    15 March 2024 11: 04
    Didn't you go to appeal? At this point, the judge clearly grabbed hold of her too much, or an order came from her superiors. I once lost the first and appeal, I thought everything, came, but still went to the cassation and - I won! We have to fight. As for this degenerate, well, you know, any revenge will be justified!
  95. 0
    16 March 2024 09: 23
    Until the RUSSIANS have a RUSSIAN government, that’s how it will be. Today we must admit that in Russia, there is neither a Russian government nor a Russian president. And all these blah blah authorities are being created for one purpose, to serve one more term. So the current president , this is not the president of the Russian people.
  96. 0
    16 March 2024 13: 02
    Our guarantor cannot even guarantee what he himself declares as law. Since there is little doubt that he will NOT be re-elected, the problem with migrants will not be solved as required by the existing situation in the country.
  97. 0
    16 March 2024 15: 15
    Maybe stop writing nonsense in the style of a hysterical woman? The judge basically wrote what happened and she was right from her position. The next court may reconsider. Let the courts sort it out.
  98. +2
    16 March 2024 16: 37
    The problem of ethnic migrants is already becoming a state-social problem... There is a “murky assumption” that with this migration a certain “number” of government officials are simply “feeding well” without denying themselves anything... And a “number” of those who should stand guard and maintain the “purity” of the laws regarding THIS migration, also take an active part in “feeding” from the same “trough”.... Only VERY tough measures regarding these “brotherly peoples”, from the once “brotherly republics,” and total control over the activities of domestic bodies supervising “brotherly peoples” and bringing domestic legislators “to their senses” in this matter will at least reduce the “heat of passions” and establish basic order in this matter.. .. And if, again, we let everything go on the brakes, we will no longer face problems, but serious upheavals on a national scale... And all THIS against the backdrop of the ongoing SVO...
  99. 0
    25 March 2024 01: 56
    If possible, pin this link to the petition regarding this case: https://www.change.org/p/in-Chelyabinsk-region-drunk-Rustam-Baizhumenov-killed-an-employee-PMC-Wagner-veteran-his?source_location =search