The film “Air” is another spit on the Great Patriotic War

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The film “Air” is another spit on the Great Patriotic War

Another movie about the Great Patriotic War has been released. We have already forgotten the film “Bastards”; Bondarchuk’s “Stalingrad” has almost been forgotten. Apparently, they decided to remind us that “the enemy does not sleep.” The film, in the truest sense of the word, is a dull piece of crap. Dejection permeates the entire film.

The film was a complete failure at the box office. The Internet is replete with negative assessments.



Surprisingly, the advertising has done its job, and people are coming. Although many leave the hall. And I didn’t hear anyone discussing it after watching the film. People look as if they have eaten something extremely unpleasant and inedible.

As political correctness suggests, before you scold, I will praise. There's not much to praise the film for though. Restored equipment from the Great Patriotic War was brought into the picture. But this is definitely not the merit of the film’s authors. They reproduced the military uniform quite well, although even here questions arise: for example, why do the heroes wear winter uniforms in September? Or why in the same scene some servicemen wear winter hats and others wear caps? The aircraft mock-ups were made ugly, one of them even had half of its elevator fall off, and no one bothered to install it properly.

To film the film, we used the latest technologies, aircraft simulators, virtual reality, and even wrote special software. The views from the cockpit and the shaking of the plane in flight are reproduced quite realistically. And all these efforts and enormous amounts of money were spent in order to remove the suck. The film is dull from the first to the last minute. All the action takes place against the backdrop of monotonous and disgusting music.

We can discuss for a long time whether women flew at the front or not. But there were very few female pilots, there were even fewer fighters among them, they were taken care of and tried not to be allowed into the thick of things. Moreover, among them there were such bright heroines as Marina Raskova. One of the heroines was copied from her, but this heroine is no different except for her boorish attitude towards the commanders. It's not easy to understand who it is and why she behaves this way.


Marina Mikhailovna Raskova - Soviet pilot-navigator, major of the Red Army Air Force, one of the first women awarded the title Hero of the Soviet Union


All actresses have “current” eyebrow tattoos, which did not and could not have happened during the war. And they have "glamorous small talk" that simply could not have happened at that time

From the very first minutes there was a desire to loudly shout “I don’t believe it!” – everything that happened in the film was so unnatural and contrived.

The actions of the heroes are just as ridiculous and even criminal. The commander forces the main character to kill the horse! But this is government property, and a tribunal awaited such a commander!

Not to mention the fact that the main character spends the whole film tormented by the question: “What is more important – the Motherland or the people”? And only towards the end of the film does he find an answer that is striking in its stupidity and banality.

By the way, no political workers are visible anywhere in the film. But in any squadron there was a political officer who flew on combat missions with the pilots and knew their moods very well. A pilot who refused to shoot in a dogfight would simply not be allowed to fly further, let alone give the important task that the main character received.

The heroine herself definitely has a mental disorder, because right in the middle of an enemy raid she calmly wanders among the wounded, looks indifferently at the blood and suffering, ignores the cries of “Get down!”, and even aims at enemy planes with a revolver (!). With the same sadistic calm, she puts a revolver in the mouth of an unsuccessful rapist colleague, and then kills him.

For some reason, two techies are competing to take the blame upon themselves instead of the heroine who committed a serious military crime. And the commander, like the last mug, believed the lies of his subordinates and did not even bother to conduct an official investigation. And the heroine, completely calmly and without any remorse, agrees for her colleague to substitute himself in her place.

And for some reason the psychopathic heroine talks about a pedophile teacher in her unhappy childhood and how she killed him.

And such a morally unstable and mentally deranged pilot is entrusted with ferrying the plane from behind enemy lines. This in itself is doubtful. No such cases are known.

With such a landing, the plane most likely received damage, it was impossible to repair it behind enemy lines, but here we see an intact plane, only covered in blood, standing right in the middle of a field, and in no way disguised from observation from the air. It’s simply amazing how the Germans haven’t yet arrived and turned not only the plane, but the entire partisan detachment into dust. At best, such planes were burned.

Next is a heartbreaking scene about a child who is asked to be taken to starving Leningrad! From there, on the contrary, the children were evacuated! And the bungling pilot, not only did not look around and exposed herself to the German’s attack, but also did not in any way register the child, who was simply supposed to be thrown around the cockpit. And after all these “feats”, the heroine, towards the end, flaunts officer’s uniform and even turns out to be a commander. Yes, and she shoots down the Germans, never understanding: “What is she fighting for?”

Then the main sadistic heroine is shot down, and she magically ends up right in the trenches with the soldiers. And he even enthusiastically shoots his own soldiers in the back with a revolver, not forgetting to show his “butt” in close-up.

And then there is simply savoring the blood, corpses, serious injuries and deaths. There is a lot of blood in the film, and it seems that the filmmakers simply enjoy all this horror, showing it from all sides and in all details.

At the same time, not forgetting to separately savor the beating of captured Germans with rifle butts by scoundrels partisans, and the death of the crew of an anti-aircraft gun - it was shown in every detail for a very long time. Like victims innocently killed by the villainous heroine... And in the close-up you can clearly see the inanimate faces of the dolls.

The authors, through the mouths of the heroes, do not forget to scold the bad engineers who produce bad planes that will never be better than the enemy.

I have already written about the absence of political officers. But military discipline is lame on all legs and arms. A subordinate can easily address the commander on a first-name basis and even be rude to him. The commander, in front of the entire military team, hugs his subordinate and strokes her.

The film consists of a bunch of illogical and unconnected pieces. It is almost unclear where the heroes come from, and it is unclear what most of them do. The action jumps around different parts of the front.

After each scene there is an expectation that the film will end there, but the authors torment the viewer further.

Absolutely mediocre and clumsy filming. Despite all the pains with the aircraft simulators, the dogfights are poorly filmed, either from the cockpit or from the ground. The scenes are very short. Although the technical means so mediocrely used in this film could help film air battles no worse than in the rather mediocre American film “Top Gun: Maverick.” It must be said that “Top Gun,” for all its shortcomings, turned out to be quite a spectacular film. And here we have some kind of squalor...

The Germans have the same pilot flying, who falls with the plane to the ground, explodes, and after 5 minutes we see him again in the cockpit of the Messer. Surprisingly, the authors forgot to mention that he “shot down 300 of our planes.”

The film is replete with close-ups. It seems that for the filming they recruited cameramen who were picking up cameras for the first time, and the director did not tell them how to shoot. For some reason, the scenes are interrupted by black frames, as if the film was edited by some editor who saw a computer for the first time.

There is a lot of dirt in the film, in every way. There was always a feeling that the filmmakers wanted to pour out as much of this abomination as possible on the audience. You can delve into this filth for a long time, but somehow you don’t want to anymore.

I almost forgot to say that the filmmakers clearly received a kickback from tobacco companies. The entire film is an unbridled advertisement for smoking. And with the message: “Smoke - you will be a hero.”

So, in my opinion, what was released on the screens was not just another mediocre film about the war. But it turned out to be just a tasty spit in the direction of the Great Patriotic War and our ancestors who fought at the front. Moreover, from eminent figures favored by the current government. Although even Wikipedia writes that this director, Alexei German Jr., has “a sophisticated visual culture that often prevails over meaning.” Let's translate it into Russian - he hasn't made a single good film.

And what a wonderful gift this is to liberals of all stripes! This is an excellent reason for them to slander that “Kremlin propaganda” has made another bad film about the war. By the way, the “liberals” have already appreciated it. Sobchak is delighted.

You can even be glad for the younger generation that they are not watching such films.

Channel One is now talking about what kind of film opus will be shot in Hollywood about Zelensky. But is it worth washing the bones of the decaying American cinema if we are filming with public money? a?

And maybe the Investigative Committee will pay attention to the director and another fake about the war? “Bastards”, flying this time?

And who will ask the question why, once again, at the people’s expense, the Great Patriotic War and its heroes were so slandered? And whose order was fulfilled this time?

Judging by the fact that the film was first shown at the Tokyo Film Festival, it is more aimed at foreign consumers. All the more vile is the act of the authors who slandered history of their homeland.

Alas, the question remains unanswered: who will answer?
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  1. +76
    11 March 2024 05: 26
    Not surprised. After crafts like "T-34", "Devyatayev", etc. - I generally have no desire to watch modern films about the Second World War anymore. Chernukha is rushing. Shaft. Just to master the loot.....
    1. +39
      11 March 2024 05: 41
      Quote: Nexcom
      Not surprised. After crafts like "T-34", "Devyatayev", etc. - I generally have no desire to watch modern films about the Second World War anymore. Chernukha is rushing. Shaft. Just to master the loot.....

      It’s been a long time since I watched this smut created by “modern directors”! I don’t recommend it to others!
      1. +10
        11 March 2024 05: 46
        Yes, there are mistakes in technical matters as well. laughing
        In "Devyatayev" at the very beginning he flew an Airacobra, which has an engine BEHIND THE CABIN and the shaft goes to the propeller through the cockpit (a tricky design). And it knocks the oil out of Devyatayev’s nose. How is that?
        There, in the bow, the Airacobra didn’t have anything other than a 30 mm air cannon with ammunition. lol
        But at the same time, in the film, oil is gushing out from there, so much so that the entire lamp is flooded - “Devyatayev” can’t see a damn thing. Well, the squeezes with the traitorous pilot are simply an abomination. especially drinking beer with sausages.
        1. +39
          11 March 2024 06: 36
          In the P-39 fighter of all modifications, there was a gearbox oil tank in the nose. Learn the hardware before you write.
          https://yandex.ru/images/touch/search?img_url=https%3A%2F%2Fairwar.ru%2Fimage%2Fidop%2Ffww2%2Fp63%2Fp63-2.gif&lr=213&pos=2&rpt=simage&source=tabbar&text=компоновка%20истребителя%20аэрокобра
          1. +15
            11 March 2024 06: 43
            Thank you for the information. Did not know.
            1. +4
              11 March 2024 10: 26
              Quote from: spyder100
              In the P-39 fighter of all modifications, there was a gearbox oil tank in the nose.
              However, this is still a gearbox and not an engine; it is unlikely that there is enough oil in it to fill the cabin, especially since under the hood there is a greater chance that the oil will go down and not get on the glass at all.
              1. +7
                11 March 2024 10: 41
                Between the gearbox with the oil tank and the cabin, there is also a weapons compartment, separated from the gearbox by a partition. I don’t rule it out, of course, but with this arrangement it’s hard to imagine how oil from the tank filled the cockpit glass.
                1. +5
                  11 March 2024 21: 46
                  Quote: Bad_gr
                  With such an arrangement, it is difficult to imagine how oil from the tank filled the cockpit glass.

                  Not directly from the tank, but through the propeller shaft. It pushed forward and then the propeller started throwing drops on both the hood and the canopy. Not only Cobras had this problem; many in their memoirs complained about landing with an oil-filled canopy. But there is a nuance. laughing
                  Other fighters had a sliding canopy and you could stick your head out from behind the visor. And Cobra has a door! You can’t open it in the air, you can only reset it to leave the plane. request
                  1. +2
                    11 March 2024 21: 57
                    Quote: Saxahorse
                    Not directly from the tank, but through the propeller shaft. It pushed forward and then the propeller started throwing drops on both the hood and the canopy.
                    It's clear. But judging by the diagrams, the oil reservoir is not at all large; the amount of oil should not have affected the sight glass too much. But if there are complaints from pilots who flew on these planes, then this is probably true
                2. +1
                  13 March 2024 09: 08
                  According to the film, the nose of the Airacobra is hit by a burst from a gunner’s machine gun, which could well have gutted the oil tank and the bulkhead and caused other troubles. So the oil from the broken oil tank under the influence of the air flow will just flood the lantern. In general, from a technical point of view, there are no complaints about this episode in the film.
        2. +22
          11 March 2024 06: 49
          Quote: Nexcom
          Well, the squeezes with the traitorous pilot are simply an abomination. especially drinking beer with sausages.

          Well, a handshake with an SS sheep in a T-34 has not yet been surpassed. There, by the way, in this scene the SS Sheep in German calls Petrov’s hero BROTHER(!!!) This phrase was not translated in the theatrical version of the film. Bye...
          1. 0
            12 March 2024 15: 42
            Was "Sergeant Tsybuli's Country Trip" surpassed or "Die Hard" (not the one with Bruce Willis)?
        3. +11
          11 March 2024 08: 05
          In “Devyatayev” they also “forgot” about the anti-fascist communists; the underground fighters, at the cost of their lives, pulled Devyatayev out of the death camp. And so on and so forth...
          1. +17
            11 March 2024 11: 57
            It’s just that before, cinema was considered an art in our country, but now, alas, it’s the film industry, in other words, “nothing personal, just business.” And all this is financed solely for the purpose of money laundering, which is why it surprisingly turns out that I can film an air battle from a computer screen in the IL-2 Sturmovik much better and cheaper, practically for free.
            1. -1
              11 March 2024 13: 36
              Quote: NIKNN
              It’s just that before, cinema was considered an art in our country, but now, alas, the film industry

              Just in Soviet times it was an industry! Profit from film distribution was in second place after the sale of vodka! Now what kind of industry is this if almost all films are unprofitable...
              1. +3
                12 March 2024 12: 33
                Quote from: AllX_VahhaB
                Now what kind of industry is this if almost all films are unprofitable...

                So they are unprofitable for rental. And for the film crew, the film is just profitable.
                It’s just that only in the soulless West do film companies make their living from film distribution. Our film crew lives from the film budget, which is generously provided by the Ministry of Culture. And then he takes it off by residual principle. And she didn’t care about losses - let the distributors have a headache about that.
              2. +1
                12 March 2024 13: 14
                They are not unprofitable for the pockets of those withdrawing.
                And for the minds of the audience and the bright memory of the feat of our ancestors.
            2. Aag
              +5
              11 March 2024 14: 28
              Quote: NIKNN
              It’s just that before, cinema was considered an art in our country, but now, alas, it’s the film industry, in other words, “nothing personal, just business.” And all this is financed solely for the purpose of money laundering, which is why it surprisingly turns out that I can film an air battle from a computer screen in the IL-2 Sturmovik much better and cheaper, practically for free.

              And now everything is “BUSINESS”!
              Even “patriotism”... Many skillfully “trade” this.
              And, IMHO, such films played their role - I know some young people (raised, undereducated by parents, teachers from the 90s), for whom SVO is “Cool fun” (for the time being) ... There are those who honestly admits this is the only way out of the current financial situation (after two vacations). "Leopards" is a separate topic! The men who drank in their youth are now again... on the front line. Some meaningfully, some according to the order of the RVK according to the VUS... And, attaching to the topic of the article, these are those who heard the stories live (or, on the contrary, the no less telling silence of the fathers, grandfathers, WWII front-line soldiers!).
              How are we now talking about the participation of European countries in WWII?! The USSR is to blame again! - he laid mines here and there! (I admit - costs, mistakes - could have occurred... But! Not on such a scale as now! Yeah, - “time is accelerating”...
              What did Stalin do in 30 years (and he didn’t have that much time...), and what now?....
              “Nuclear club” - and that one became (in some aspects) a digging stick...
              Some commentators tried to shame me: close to the text, they say, “... what kind of Strategic Missile Forces officer is this who hesitates to carry out the ORDER to launch an ICBM?!...” at the place of residence of his relatives and friends...
              I didn’t give such a reason!
              Moreover, he wrote and quoted texts from Mom: “... Son, don’t doubt it, do what you need to do! Let’s call fire on ourselves!!.. “...
              Classmates and friends, for the most part, also understand the risks... And support!
              Yes! Of course, they also want to avoid it.
              And “our” First Persons are ready to hit their offspring in the places of residence?!
              ... Those who want to minus, please give reasons.
              And please, don’t be offended if I don’t answer promptly, the notifications work clumsily...
              hi
              1. Aag
                0
                11 March 2024 19: 30
                Quote: AAG
                Quote: NIKNN
                It’s just that before, cinema was considered an art in our country, but now, alas, it’s the film industry, in other words, “nothing personal, just business.” And all this is financed solely for the purpose of money laundering, which is why it surprisingly turns out that I can film an air battle from a computer screen in the IL-2 Sturmovik much better and cheaper, practically for free.

                And now everything is “BUSINESS”!
                Even “patriotism”... Many skillfully “trade” this.
                And, IMHO, such films played their role - I know some young people (raised, undereducated by parents, teachers from the 90s), for whom SVO is “Cool fun” (for the time being) ... There are those who honestly admits this is the only way out of the current financial situation (after two vacations). "Leopards" is a separate topic! The men who drank in their youth are now again... on the front line. Some meaningfully, some according to the order of the RVK according to the VUS... And, attaching to the topic of the article, these are those who heard the stories live (or, on the contrary, the no less telling silence of the fathers, grandfathers, WWII front-line soldiers!).
                How are we now talking about the participation of European countries in WWII?! The USSR is to blame again! - he laid mines here and there! (I admit - costs, mistakes - could have occurred... But! Not on such a scale as now! Yeah, - “time is accelerating”...
                What did Stalin do in 30 years (and he didn’t have that much time...), and what now?....
                “Nuclear club” - and that one became (in some aspects) a digging stick...
                Some commentators tried to shame me: close to the text, they say, “... what kind of Strategic Missile Forces officer is this who hesitates to carry out the ORDER to launch an ICBM?!...” at the place of residence of his relatives and friends...
                I didn’t give such a reason!
                Moreover, he wrote and quoted texts from Mom: “... Son, don’t doubt it, do what you need to do! Let’s call fire on ourselves!!.. “...
                Classmates and friends, for the most part, also understand the risks... And support!
                Yes! Of course, they also want to avoid it.
                And “our” First Persons are ready to hit their offspring in the places of residence?!
                ... Those who want to minus, please give reasons.
                And please, don’t be offended if I don’t answer promptly, the notifications work clumsily...
                hi
              2. Aag
                +1
                11 March 2024 19: 54
                Quote: AAG
                Quote: NIKNN
                It’s just that before, cinema was considered an art in our country, but now, alas, it’s the film industry, in other words, “nothing personal, just business.” And all this is financed solely for the purpose of money laundering, which is why it surprisingly turns out that I can film an air battle from a computer screen in the IL-2 Sturmovik much better and cheaper, practically for free.

                And now everything is “BUSINESS”!
                Even “patriotism”... Many skillfully “trade” this.
                And, IMHO, such films played their role - I know some young people (raised, undereducated by parents, teachers from the 90s), for whom SVO is “Cool fun” (for the time being) ... There are those who honestly admits this is the only way out of the current financial situation (after two vacations). "Leopards" is a separate topic! The men who drank in their youth are now again... on the front line. Some meaningfully, some according to the order of the RVK according to the VUS... And, attaching to the topic of the article, these are those who heard the stories live (or, on the contrary, the no less telling silence of the fathers, grandfathers, WWII front-line soldiers!).
                How are we now talking about the participation of European countries in WWII?! The USSR is to blame again! - he laid mines here and there! (I admit - costs, mistakes - could have occurred... But! Not on such a scale as now! Yeah, - “time is accelerating”...
                What did Stalin do in 30 years (and he didn’t have that much time...), and what now?....
                “Nuclear club” - and that one became (in some aspects) a digging stick...
                Some commentators tried to shame me: close to the text, they say, “... what kind of Strategic Missile Forces officer is this who hesitates to carry out the ORDER to launch an ICBM?!...” at the place of residence of his relatives and friends...
                I didn’t give such a reason!
                Moreover, he wrote and quoted texts from Mom: “... Son, don’t doubt it, do what you need to do! Let’s call fire on ourselves!!.. “...
                Classmates and friends, for the most part, also understand the risks... And support!
                Yes! Of course, they also want to avoid it.
                And “our” First Persons are ready to hit their offspring in the places of residence?!
                ... Those who want to minus, please give reasons.
                And please, don’t be offended if I don’t answer promptly, the notifications work clumsily...
                hi

                Yes! Literally just now I spoke with our Riga residents... With those who carried flowers to the demolished Victory Monument (he erected it with his classmates!), back in the Soviet years... With those who lay flowers at the pedestals, place, already demolished monument - doubly deserve respect!!.
                ... The Gorbachevs, their followers, were abandoned more than once. Even under the slogans “Russian World”, “We are not abandoning our own!”... (“We are not abandoning our own!”
                " - now very popular on municipal buses here, in Irkutsk... Under the control (conditionally) of people from the SA (not the Soviet Army - Central Asia)... I understand - I’m also a newcomer here - for more than 35 years ... But I’m not trying, I don’t want (I didn’t need this), to strain someone, to convince someone of my ideas, beliefs... The Irkutsk and Bratsk hydroelectric power stations were built without any special interethnic problems! Problems began to arise already during the division, - after the collapse of the USSR... WHO is the boss in the end?! To whom did the top officials of the state (namely, with a capital letter!) call on the people to chip in in support of the business that had been oppressed by the West? Have you forgotten already?... "Russall", in particular... Are there not enough of them?! Like, your fathers and grandfathers scouted, built... And now you will help, so that it’s not your adversaries who rob you, but ours, our relatives, our own!

                ... Well, is that how it works? (Please correct me if I'm wrong...).
                1. +1
                  11 March 2024 20: 19
                  Quote: AAG
                  Yes! Literally just now I spoke with our Riga residents...

                  ===
                  Unfortunately, “our Riga residents,” like other former compatriots, are becoming fewer and fewer every year. their children, and especially their grandchildren, no longer associate themselves with Russia. yes, they are still Russian-speaking, they can bring flowers once a year, but no more. maybe I'm wrong
                  1. Aag
                    0
                    11 March 2024 21: 29
                    Quote: Victorio
                    Quote: AAG
                    Yes! Literally just now I spoke with our Riga residents...

                    ===
                    Unfortunately, “our Riga residents,” like other former compatriots, are becoming fewer and fewer every year. their children, and especially their grandchildren, no longer associate themselves with Russia. yes, they are still Russian-speaking, they can bring flowers once a year, but no more. maybe I'm wrong

                    Thanks for the answer, caring! hi
                    Perhaps you are right... Alas... But! It’s even more depressing that a similar trend (to confirm my words there is a debate under the article!) is more typical for the Russian Federation! Please try to understand correctly(!)... (now turbo "patriots" with minuses will come running...)))...
                    In the Abandoned Republics of the former Soviet Union, there are clearly more true Patriots (in percentage terms, excuse me, than even pseudo-patriots in the current Russian Federation! Personal, evaluative opinion... Believe me, they suffered a lot there... More than once here, on "VO “, “debates” arose on the topic, they say, those who wanted to have “dumped” into the Russian Federation a long time ago. For some time I “butted heads” with similar opponents... I understood - it’s useless...
                    1. Aag
                      +1
                      11 March 2024 21: 46
                      Quote: AAG
                      Quote: Victorio
                      Quote: AAG
                      Yes! Literally just now I spoke with our Riga residents...

                      ===
                      Unfortunately, “our Riga residents,” like other former compatriots, are becoming fewer and fewer every year. their children, and especially their grandchildren, no longer associate themselves with Russia. yes, they are still Russian-speaking, they can bring flowers once a year, but no more. maybe I'm wrong

                      Thanks for the answer, caring! hi
                      Perhaps you are right... Alas... But! It’s even more depressing that a similar trend (to confirm my words there is a debate under the article!) is more typical for the Russian Federation! Please try to understand correctly(!)... (now turbo "patriots" with minuses will come running...)))...
                      In the Abandoned Republics of the former Soviet Union, there are clearly more true Patriots (in percentage terms, excuse me, than even pseudo-patriots in the current Russian Federation! Personal, evaluative opinion... Believe me, they suffered a lot there... More than once here, on "VO “, “debates” arose on the topic, they say, those who wanted to have “dumped” into the Russian Federation a long time ago. For some time I “butted heads” with similar opponents... I understood - it’s useless...

                      Apparently, we need to give some clarification...
                      In conversations with classmates and childhood friends, the question always arises: “Well? If everything is so sad (and it’s not as sad there as the domestic media portrays to us!...), maybe we should move to Russia?”...
                      The answers vary...
                      1) What’s better about you? ; (and really?, if you don’t take into account the foreign policy declared...);
                      2) The main thing is “How?” (even after selling the home, taking out the funds is a problem!) (If you know a way, please share!)...;
                      3) sounds pretentious, maybe hides other goals, but - I like it (!): “I was born here, I will live here, in any cataclysm, - die, - so here too! (note, these are the children of those , who has been rebuilding Latvia since the 40s...).
                      Judge for yourself... feel
                      1. +1
                        13 March 2024 20: 49
                        Quote: AAG
                        Judge for yourself... feel

                        ===
                        I left Latvia in December, I did not renew my residence permit. mother of one Kuban. and my wife is there, earning a pension, and my son is finishing school.
                      2. Aag
                        0
                        13 March 2024 23: 18
                        Quote: Victorio
                        Quote: AAG
                        Judge for yourself... feel

                        ===
                        I left Latvia in December, I did not renew my residence permit. mother of one Kuban. and my wife is there, earning a pension, and my son is finishing school.

                        Hold on!
                        Good luck!
                        If anything, please PM me...
                      3. +2
                        14 March 2024 16: 13
                        You know, it seems to me that now, according to the law, it is easier for a resident of Tajikistan without knowledge of the Russian language to obtain Russian citizenship than for a Russian-speaking person from the Baltic republics ((
                      4. Aag
                        0
                        14 March 2024 16: 24
                        Quote from: old64
                        You know, it seems to me that now, according to the law, it is easier for a resident of Tajikistan without knowledge of the Russian language to obtain Russian citizenship than for a Russian-speaking person from the Baltic republics ((

                        I wrote about this a long time ago!
                        ...Unfortunately, some of the forum participants identify the residents with the governments of the states... They don’t want, they don’t try to understand the Real problems of former (more than once abandoned - whether in quotes or not) fellow citizens...(((.
                      5. 0
                        14 March 2024 19: 11
                        Quote from: old64
                        than a Russian speaker from the Baltic republics

                        ===
                        yes no, through the consulate no problem
                      6. Aag
                        0
                        14 March 2024 20: 54
                        Quote: Victorio
                        Quote from: old64
                        than a Russian speaker from the Baltic republics

                        ===
                        yes no, through the consulate no problem

                        Alas, with problems... Although, it must be admitted, Latvians are a “cold” nation, perhaps “without a soul” (in our understanding...), But, respectful, observant, in the vast majority of cases orgnung!
                      7. 0
                        14 March 2024 21: 42
                        Quote: AAG
                        Alas, with problems... Although, I must admit, Latvians are a “cold” nation

                        ===
                        What does Latvians have to do with it if we are talking about the Russian consulate and registration of citizenship there?!
                      8. +3
                        14 March 2024 21: 05
                        At the beginning of the 8s, he opened a store. A Ukrainian woman worked for me. She had already lived on the territory of the Russian Federation for 18 years, got married (to a citizen!!!), gave birth to a child, the child had already started school, but she never received citizenship. But at the market, the Azerbaijanis who were selling cigarettes there (from whom I bought))) brought a young XNUMX-year-old brother. Attached to the business. And voila, just three months later he is already a citizen. But he turned out to be unfit for the army. ))) I saw this too. A special case. But how indicative...
                    2. +4
                      12 March 2024 11: 50
                      Quote: AAG
                      In the Abandoned Republics of the former Soviet Union, there are clearly more true Patriots (in percentage terms, excuse me, than even pseudo-patriots in the current Russian Federation! Personal, evaluative opinion...

                      I judge from Kazakhstan. 15-20 years ago I agree. Not now! Due to the complete absence of any policy on the part of Russia to support compatriots in the former republics. The vast majority either left (like me) or assimilated.
                      1. Aag
                        0
                        13 March 2024 23: 16
                        Quote from: AllX_VahhaB
                        Quote: AAG
                        In the Abandoned Republics of the former Soviet Union, there are clearly more true Patriots (in percentage terms, excuse me, than even pseudo-patriots in the current Russian Federation! Personal, evaluative opinion...

                        I judge from Kazakhstan. 15-20 years ago I agree. Not now! Due to the complete absence of any policy on the part of Russia to support compatriots in the former republics. The vast majority either left (like me) or assimilated.

                        What to say? ...
                        Good luck!
                        In the statements of top officials, everything is beautiful... In reality, it’s a little different...
              3. 0
                12 March 2024 17: 11
                Quote: AAG
                what kind of officer of the Strategic Missile Forces is he who hesitates to carry out the ORDER to launch an ICBM?!... "at the place of residence of his relatives, friends...

                I wonder who tells the Strategic Missile Forces officer for what purpose the launch is being carried out?
                1. Aag
                  -1
                  12 March 2024 17: 23
                  Quote: Michael m
                  Quote: AAG
                  what kind of officer of the Strategic Missile Forces is he who hesitates to carry out the ORDER to launch an ICBM?!... "at the place of residence of his relatives, friends...

                  I wonder who tells the Strategic Missile Forces officer for what purpose the launch is being carried out?

                  Either the opponent didn’t know this, or/and it was a matter of principle.
                2. Aag
                  0
                  14 March 2024 23: 09
                  Quote: Michael m
                  Quote: AAG
                  what kind of officer of the Strategic Missile Forces is he who hesitates to carry out the ORDER to launch an ICBM?!... "at the place of residence of his relatives, friends...

                  I wonder who tells the Strategic Missile Forces officer for what purpose the launch is being carried out?

                  And, -
                  As far as I remember, you, too, seem to be one of our “... from the Slavs...” (C) V. S. Vysotsky
                  I mean, from the Strategic Missile Forces... Have you ever guessed the Area based on the target number? By District number, the area (well, at least approximately?). During exercises and training? (KShT, KShU) ... No, - I’m closer to the ground, - to hollow out the soil under the supports, to train the l/s, to deploy the TSO... Even my dog ​​was trained to do all such things... (today he is 32 years old from birth...).
                  The highest levels of management, well, yes, were on duty according to the staff... But, pieces of iron, fuel oil, closer... hi
        4. 0
          12 March 2024 12: 59
          Quote: Nexcom
          which has an engine BEHIND THE CAB

          If the plot is awesome or the actors/director dragged it in, almost an SU-25 will do.
          In the sense that the rivets are not important.
          And if everything is so low that the only entertainment is looking at the models/special effects/props, well, they finally arrived.
          And something like the “shwaboda” has arrived - the current creatures are rolling out this kind of thing.
          1. +4
            14 March 2024 07: 13
            Quote: pettabyte
            If the plot is awesome or the actors/director dragged it in, almost an SU-25 will do.
            In the sense that the rivets are not important.

            Behind Shukshin in “They Fought for the Motherland” during his monologue, Meteor is floating along the river. Such a blunder came out....
            But no one sees him - Shukshin’s acting is so strong, the power of emotions...
            1. 0
              15 March 2024 10: 46
              Quote: your1970
              But no one sees him - Shukshin’s acting is so strong, the power of emotions...


              Here! This is it. That's how it should be.
      2. +22
        11 March 2024 05: 53
        Quote: your vsr 66-67
        It’s been a long time since I watched this smut created by “modern directors”!

        The Ministry of Culture of Russia has become all sorts of mold, they only come up with something plausible about themselves, but there is no request for stupid obscenity, so they mold as best they can what they have no clue about.
        1. +22
          11 March 2024 06: 52
          Quote: Vladimir_2U
          The Ministry of Culture of Russia has become all sorts of mold, they only come up with something plausible about themselves, but there is no request for stupid obscenity, so they mold as best they can what they have no clue about.

          And I think this is no coincidence. All these crafts receive government funding on a NON-REFUNDABLE basis through the Cinema Fund. Anyone who has ever dealt with government orders or budget financing knows how difficult it is to get financing! And then they give it away and don’t ask to return it...
          1. +6
            11 March 2024 10: 12
            - And here they give it away and don’t ask for it back...
            Well, they don’t ask! Twenty percent at least...
      3. +15
        11 March 2024 06: 03
        Quote: your vsr 66-67
        I haven't watched this shit for a long time

        It is categorically not recommended for a normal person to watch current films and TV series! Poorness and primitivism. All !
        1. Aag
          -1
          11 March 2024 23: 28
          Quote: Uncle Lee
          Quote: your vsr 66-67
          I haven't watched this shit for a long time

          It is categorically not recommended for a normal person to watch current films and TV series! Poorness and primitivism. All !

          I agree.
          The only question is: how and on what to educate the replacement, the new generation, children? (Excuse me, but raising the tricolor at school on Mondays, the “Youth Army”, and other projects are not inspiring!).
          1. Aag
            0
            14 March 2024 01: 40
            Quote: AAG
            Quote: Uncle Lee
            Quote: your vsr 66-67
            I haven't watched this shit for a long time

            It is categorically not recommended for a normal person to watch current films and TV series! Poorness and primitivism. All !

            I agree.
            The only question is: how and on what to educate the replacement, the new generation, children? (Excuse me, but raising the tricolor at school on Mondays, the “Youth Army”, and other projects are not inspiring!).

            I can even understand who downvoted - I have similar colleagues among me...
            Both Putin lovers and Khokhlo haters (that’s a separate conversation)... No. I don’t “divide” like that. Well, - it’s customary here, - “Whose Crimea?” (It would be better to be puzzled by the question of whose hydroelectric power stations are on the Angara, Yenisei...).
      4. +8
        11 March 2024 06: 42
        Quote: your vsr 66-67
        created by "modern directors"

        Alexey German Jr. born in 1976. Son, respectively, of Herman Sr. laughing which back in the 90s marked the “Khrustalev car”. This is an old galaxy, from the 90s...
      5. +11
        11 March 2024 07: 15
        And what did you want? For the enemies of the people to make good films about our people? Yeah, right now. Moreover, all the so-called directors have Israeli passports. And all of “our” power to heaven also has the same passports. Here's the roof for you.
        1. +5
          11 March 2024 13: 39
          Quote: Taimen
          Moreover, all the so-called directors have Israeli passports.

          Eisenstein was also a Jew, and he directed Battleship Potemkin...
          1. +1
            11 March 2024 17: 33
            My grandfather, an old Tsarist sailor, always spat when they showed “the battleship Potemkin.” When I, as a boy, asked about this, I received the answer that they didn’t feed them like that in the navy. For this, my father-commander would easily have gone into retirement, and the cooks are 100% hard labor. And the film, as he said, is nonsense, cobbled together by f..mi. He also said about the Poles that these are the first traitors, which is what we see now. The grandfathers were right.
            1. +1
              11 March 2024 17: 55
              And the film, as he said, is nonsense, cobbled together by...

              What nonsense did he not say?
              1. Alf
                +3
                11 March 2024 19: 28
                Quote: A vile skeptic
                And the film, as he said, is nonsense, cobbled together by...

                What nonsense did he not say?

                I remember something from the film review.
                1. The Rotten Meat Episode. The fact is that the meat, like all products, was bought by the ship’s commission consisting of a battalion officer, an officer and sailors. It is unlikely that the sailors from this commission would not stand up with their chests, seeing the “moving” meat, then they would have to live with the sailors in the same cockpit...
                2. A similar incident happened on Potemkin not long ago, but then the ship’s commander calmly gave out money for the purchase of a new batch of meat from the ship’s cash register.
                3. I think, I don’t remember exactly, but on the Potemkin at that moment there were civilian representatives on board, I wonder what they were doing there, on a warship. As it turned out later, from the Socialist Revolutionary Party.
                1. Aag
                  +1
                  11 March 2024 23: 34
                  Quote: Alf
                  Quote: A vile skeptic
                  And the film, as he said, is nonsense, cobbled together by...

                  What nonsense did he not say?

                  I remember something from the film review.
                  1. The Rotten Meat Episode. The fact is that the meat, like all products, was bought by the ship’s commission consisting of a battalion officer, an officer and sailors. It is unlikely that the sailors from this commission would not stand up with their chests, seeing the “moving” meat, then they would have to live with the sailors in the same cockpit...
                  2. A similar incident happened on Potemkin not long ago, but then the ship’s commander calmly gave out money for the purchase of a new batch of meat from the ship’s cash register.
                  3. I think, I don’t remember exactly, but on the Potemkin at that moment there were civilian representatives on board, I wonder what they were doing there, on a warship. As it turned out later, from the Socialist Revolutionary Party.

                  "... an officer and sailors. It is unlikely that the sailors from this commission would not stand up with their chests, seeing the "moving" meat, then they would have to live in the same cockpit with the sailors..."
                  It seems like you served?
                  You don’t know how it was done, is it being done?...
                  The day before yesterday I learned from the father of two sons, members of the SVO, that they have already voted...
                  Do I need to tell you how?!...
              2. +1
                11 March 2024 19: 54
                There was a rule in the Imperial Navy that the ship's commander took a sample before distributing food.
                1. -3
                  12 March 2024 12: 11
                  Quote: bug120560
                  There was a rule in the Imperial Navy that the ship's commander took a sample before distributing food.

                  Where did you read this story?
              3. -3
                12 March 2024 11: 17
                Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                What nonsense did he not say?

                In Russia which we lost!
            2. -2
              12 March 2024 11: 16
              Quote: Taimen
              My grandfather, an old royal sailor

              What ship did you serve on?
              1. +1
                12 March 2024 21: 27
                It seems that in the photo on the cap, part of the name of the ship is visible.....glory.
          2. -1
            12 March 2024 00: 43
            Eisenstein had a Russian mother. And the father, although a Jew, was baptized. So according to Jewish customs, Eisenstein is not a Jew.
      6. +5
        11 March 2024 14: 18
        Perhaps the last adequate film about the war was “In August 44”, which featured Yevgeny Mironov.
        1. Ash
          +3
          11 March 2024 18: 26
          You're disingenuous, the Belarusians took it off.
          1. +1
            12 March 2024 00: 45
            But the main roles were played by Russian actors.
        2. +1
          11 March 2024 20: 07
          yeah, what can you say about ''Operation Neman''...which was filmed last year it seems...and I was waiting for it...I was thinking how it would surpass August 44 and it did...I had a hard time watching THIS!!!
          1. +1
            12 March 2024 12: 42
            I watched it, and somewhere in the middle of the film I realized that it was no longer possible to hold back the urge to vomit. Turned it off and puked.
        3. -1
          12 March 2024 12: 35
          Brest Fortress, We from the Future are excellent films, they still have the “old”, correct message. Good films - 28 Panfilov's Men, The White Tiger. 28 Panfilov’s Men was shot very well, Klim Zhukov was very pleased, and he’s a button guy, but the film has absolutely no narrative, just location and battles. The White Tiger is almost a fairy tale, but I liked it, the style was very similar to Balabanism. But at least in 28 Panfilov’s men and the white tiger there was no nonsense about victims of repression and the gulag, there were no detachments and blood-stained basement walls of the NKVD. Thank you for that though. Almost everything that was filmed after 2014 (except for Panfilov’s men and the tiger) is a complete burp, with ingratiation to Western film experts, they are trying to squeeze onto the screen the idea that the Second World War was a war of chivalry, civilized Europeans came to us with a war, and we, as civilized Europeans, gave them tactful rebuff and there was no bestial cruelty, arrogance, feelings of superiority, hatred and contempt for the Soviet people on the part of the Europeans. Well, this is a constant protrusion of RUSSIANITY, completely forgetting, although rather deliberately keeping silent about the merits of the other peoples who were (and were not) then part of the USSR. Who's filming all this? Traitors, instigators, provocateurs and saboteurs? Rather, these are the main political officers of the current ruling elite. Although they are digging their own grave, knocking the people’s beliefs out from under their feet. The authorities think that such films can change and soften the point of view regarding the Second World War, but no, we are not pendos, the Second World War rolled over us like a steamroller, so we will never approve of a handshake.
    2. +10
      11 March 2024 06: 37
      Quote: Nexcom
      Not surprised. After crafts like "T-34", "Devyatayev", etc. - I generally have no desire to watch modern films about the Second World War anymore.

      I have absolutely similar feelings. Also, I practically stopped watching, because among all the slag there are only a few normal ones like Panfilov’s Men, the Brest Fortress or To Berlin (Two in the Steppe).
      Or maybe this is the Goal of our Capital, which contains the “creative intelligentsia” through the same Cinema Fund? Since people don’t accept outright nonsense about the Second World War, then let’s slip in pictures of the T-34 level with a schedule, a time bulletin and seemingly patriotic, but... completely UG! At least this way to cover up the Second World War!
      And with this film, everything was clear at the level of the main character - the daughter of parents repressed by the bloody regime, raped in an orphanage for children of enemies of the people...
    3. +9
      11 March 2024 09: 12
      watch modern films about the Second World War

      You can put it another way - there is no desire to watch any films at all.
      There are no normal modern films.
      1. 0
        14 March 2024 21: 12
        Well, I really liked the film "The Legend of Kolovrat". Although the authors themselves indicated “fantasy based on...”. Well, in my opinion it is a very worthy film..
    4. +5
      11 March 2024 11: 32
      Quote: Nexcom
      Not surprised

      One might be surprised that the wave of chernukha stopped by itself. If the audience doesn’t have feedback from the country’s leadership, then there will be crap as long as the government covers up its sources for this bastard.
    5. +8
      11 March 2024 12: 55
      I'll add more.
      Once I watched a new miracle about partisans, I don’t remember the name and it’s very good that I don’t remember, where during the film the radio operator of the detachment falls in love with a German and then runs away to his city on a date. Then she ends up in the Gestapo, from where she, a partisan, is rescued by a German, by the way, a doctor... Bullshit. And this kind of crap is fed to us by the cultural mafia, raking our public money and throwing scum on it that we don’t even want to look at.
      1. 0
        11 March 2024 22: 41
        Quote: The Truth
        I'll add more.
        Once I watched a new miracle about partisans, I don’t remember the name and it’s very good that I don’t remember, where during the film the radio operator of the detachment falls in love with a German and then runs away to his city on a date. Then she ends up in the Gestapo, from where she, a partisan, is rescued by a German, by the way, a doctor...

        This is a large serial film, filmed before 2014 and all events jointly by Belarusian, Ukrainian and Russian filmmakers, the cast is also mixed. There are several separate parts "1941", "1942". "1943". The girl there is not a radio operator at all, but a local village resident. In general, the film is not bad at all, you probably didn’t watch it from the beginning. The Germans and their henchmen are shown the same as they were shown in Soviet cinema. The only exception is the German officer doctor. Compared to what has been filmed about the war in recent decades, I would give the film a solid four.
  2. +13
    11 March 2024 05: 29
    If the song is good, then it is heard in all countries of the globe. The fact is that when spending public money, the authors try not to offend themselves. They don’t always invite consultants. But, among other things, you need to sift through a huge layer of literature. The same ones are everywhere same actors. It turns out to be some kind of get-together. And people are watching and will continue to watch. It’s just a human need to learn something new. But instead he gets an ordinary surrogate.
    1. +22
      11 March 2024 05: 49
      The most disgusting film about the Second World War is “Citadel” by Mikhalkov....
      I haven’t watched this one, so I can’t evaluate it, but I’m not surprised by the reaction of the author of the article. Lately they have been filming outright blunders...it’s strange that the Shtrafbat is not mentioned...
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    2. +17
      11 March 2024 05: 50
      The most decent modern film about the Second World War is “28 Panfilov’s Men.”

      PS And "Penal Battalion" I don’t even want to remember. There Serebryakov simply raised money for himself on the set and that’s all.
      1. +2
        11 March 2024 06: 01
        The film "Litvyak", which I wrote about below, is from the creators of "28 Panfilov's Men".
        They even made the cabin of the Yak-1 from scratch, because, as they say, no real ones survived.
      2. +4
        11 March 2024 06: 07
        I agree... I would also add the Brest Fortress and the Red Ghost to the list. The rest is just slag
        1. +3
          11 March 2024 06: 56
          Quote from: FoBoss_VM
          I would also add to the list

          The Road to Berlin (based on the story “Two in the Steppe” by Emmanuel Kazakevich).
      3. +17
        11 March 2024 06: 27
        "Panfilov's 28" is a good film, but unlike the best Soviet films it is not worthy of re-watching.
        1. +5
          11 March 2024 10: 32
          In Soviet times, a lot of Soviet films were made about the war. But only a few are remembered and can be reviewed. And all Soviet films were made with state money, went through censorship and previews. They used consultants who remembered how it was. And still the majority are mediocre. This is fine. They film as best they can.
          1. +6
            11 March 2024 13: 44
            Quote: svan26
            censorship and previews took place.

            Maybe it’s right when commissars in dusty helmets stand over the “creator”... Take Eldar Ryazanov - what films he made in Soviet times! And now comes freedom and lack of censorship! And what did he film? Old nags wassat Impossible to watch!
          2. +4
            11 March 2024 17: 43
            You know, I began to look through films of the 60s and discovered that I had not seen a lot of good films, including those about the war - they simply were not shown in Soviet times for various reasons and are not shown now. And there were a lot of unknown films that I wanted to watch again. For example - “Black Birch” (though from the 70s), Indian Kingdom, Ivan’s Childhood, It Was in Intelligence, Winter Morning, Clear Sky, On the Seven Winds and many others.
            1. +5
              11 March 2024 18: 02
              You know, I began to look through films of the 60s and discovered that I had not seen a lot of good films, including those about the war - they simply were not shown in Soviet times for various reasons and are not shown now. And there were a lot of unknown films that I wanted to watch again. For example - “Black Birch” (though from the 70s), Indian Kingdom, Ivan’s Childhood, It Was in Intelligence, Winter Morning, Clear Sky, On the Seven Winds and many others.

              Watch Third Strike (1948), Where's 042? (1969), “They were known only by sight” (1966), “On the Kiev direction” (1967), “Immortal Garrison” (1956), “No unknown soldiers” (1965), “Rockets must not take off” (1964) .
              1. 0
                11 March 2024 18: 12
                Yes thank you. I saw something. I first watched different selections on YouTube, and then went through the list in Kinopoisk - almost 2300 films of the 60s, and every tenth, if not more, is simply a masterpiece compared to modern cinema.
              2. 0
                11 March 2024 18: 19
                The films of that time have a drawback - they need to be watched and listened to, and not just sat with popcorn.
                1. 0
                  11 March 2024 23: 17
                  Quote from shikin
                  The films of that time have a drawback - they need to be watched and listened to, and not just sat with popcorn.

                  Our cinema began to degrade even before the start of perestroika and the destruction of the USSR. Watch and compare war films from the 60s and early 80s, and the quality will not be on the side of the latter. In short, it’s a blunder upon a blunder, like the Germans dissecting the Soviet Urals or our tank crews fighting to techno music. And it’s not like a war, but some kind of adventure film.
                  1. +2
                    11 March 2024 23: 27
                    I completely agree. The films of the 60s seem to me to be the most truthful and sincere. In the 50s you can feel the strict censorship. In the 70s, some kind of “laxness” already appeared. Of course, there are outstanding films of all times, but their share varies greatly in different periods.
      4. +7
        11 March 2024 07: 06
        Serebryakov is an actor. "Penal battalions" are filmed by directors.
        1. +4
          11 March 2024 10: 29
          Quote: cast iron
          Serebryakov is an actor. "Penal battalions" are filmed by directors.

          Serebryakov is a potential traitor and opportunist in life. For his public Russophobic statements, I would block his path to our screens. In general, as Alexey Peshkov said, people of art, creative people are inadequate.
          1. Ash
            0
            11 March 2024 18: 35
            Serebryakov, by the way, also acted with Ulyanov. But that's not the point. I’ve been following his statements since the 90s. Has anything changed? There is nothing in his words, but you, apparently, have changed everything 100 times. And the fact that I keep remembering Canada is that his wife at the time of marriage was already a citizen of this state, and he only has a residence permit. And the fact that he took two children from an orphanage: do you yourself have something to brag about?
            1. +2
              11 March 2024 19: 34
              Quote: Ash
              but you, apparently, have changed everything 100 times.

              And what did I change? Wasn’t it he who, while living with his family in Canada, said that the national idea in Russia is strength, arrogance and rudeness? And then, when it didn’t work out for a lot of other reasons and he returned, he disowned his previous words, like - but I never left.... He taught children.... And before he said that he took him away because ". ...here (in Russia), no matter how I protect and isolate them, you cannot protect them from rudeness and aggression. It’s in the air. The boor won..." Do you understand the difference? The boors won here in Russia, you know... And he himself had a hand in this with his “Fan”. And he received money for it without flinching.
              Quote: Ash
              And the fact that he took two children from an orphanage: do you yourself have something to brag about?

              It didn’t work out for him with his children; he took them from an orphanage. I succeeded, I raised and taught my own people. Not bad, I must say. I don’t want to brag, but it is what it is.
              Quote: Ash
              Serebryakov, by the way, also starred with Ulyanov

              So what? This filming did not stop him from lying in the Penal Battalion. And the worst thing is that he is a talented actor. But it’s not just that in the old days, actors, as actors, were not buried in a common cemetery. They believed that they had no soul. In a decent society they did not want to be accepted as equals, and their moral principles were questioned. Many of them today are quite consistent with that opinion. They will present any story for money and present a lie as the truth.
        2. +1
          11 March 2024 13: 47
          Quote: cast iron
          Serebryakov is an actor. "Penal battalions" are filmed by directors.

          And there are the same directors - Serebrennikov Kirill Semyonovich...
        3. Alf
          -1
          11 March 2024 19: 32
          Quote: cast iron
          Serebryakov is an actor. "Penal battalions" are filmed by directors.

          Doesn't the actor read the script? He can’t say, I won’t act in this...? Or does the money overshadow the conscience?
          1. +1
            16 March 2024 13: 50
            “Doesn’t the actor read the script? Can’t he say that I won’t act in this? Or does the money overshadow his conscience?”

            Well, Solzhenitsyn wrote libels and lies against the USSR, and Comrade Putin called him a great genius and he was introduced into the school curriculum to litter the brains of children. Does it turn out that Putin is also bad? Or, for example, Putin reveres the fascist Ilyin and the alcoholic degenerate Yeltsin. By your logic, Putin is bad. So?
            1. Alf
              +3
              16 March 2024 18: 41
              No, "wonderful"....
      5. +1
        11 March 2024 22: 49
        Quote: Nexcom
        The most decent modern film about the Second World War is “28 Panfilov’s Men.”

        There is also a not bad film “Three Days of Lieutenant Kravtsov”, there even !!! the special officer !!! is shown as a normal person and a warrior.
      6. 0
        15 March 2024 14: 36
        “28 Panfilov’s Men” seems to have been filmed with donations (monetary donations) from the people and plus from the company that developed a computer game about military equipment. Well, at least this was announced initially. Klim Sanych Zhukov and other good people were brought in as consultants.
  3. +23
    11 March 2024 05: 30
    Thank you for the article! That's right, the fewer veterans, the less truth there is. But of course, the level of foulness is very offensive, it seems that on the one hand we are constantly being told about the exploits of our grandfathers, and inserting them into our speeches in every possible way, on the other hand, they are covering up the mausoleum and giving money for it.... It is not clear how the grandfathers won in such films, half are sitting here, half are guarding, another half are shooting at their own people because they are a barrage detachment, another quarter is raping German women and their own, and here we also need children... And then who even went on the attack?? It’s not clear at all, and this is persistently drummed into people by our filmmakers. For good reason, such film masterpieces should be imprisoned.....
    1. +16
      11 March 2024 05: 38
      If you go by modern films about the Second World War, then they didn’t go on attacks - barrage detachments were sent into attacks. Well, or like in “Rzhev” - a mad NKVD officer drove. At first I wanted to put everyone against the wall for leaflets, but then I realized that it was better to send everyone into the attack. laughing
    2. +3
      11 March 2024 06: 23
      It’s not clear how the grandfathers won in such films, half of them are sitting here, half are guarding, and the other half are shooting at their own people because it’s a barrage detachment,


      I agree with you.
      I don’t watch modern films about the Patriotic War. I know that there will be another lie.
      The most important thing is that on the basis of such films, young people will formulate their ideas about the Second World War.

      I propose to prohibit the making (i.e., allocating money) of films about the Second World War without undergoing certain censorship.
      But I don’t know who will be the censor in our capitalist world. Maybe the soldiers returned from the Northern Military District.
      1. +3
        11 March 2024 07: 01
        Quote: AA17
        I propose to prohibit the making (i.e., allocating money) of films about the Second World War without undergoing certain censorship.

        So the state has already censored the script for issuing state money. Maybe it's better the other way around without censorship? Let them do what they want, and we’ll vote with rubles? Will he not go to waste and let him go bankrupt without government subsidies?
        1. +6
          11 March 2024 08: 28
          That's for sure, let them film it on their own. No matter how much they scold Hollywood, the director made the film with his own (and sponsorship) money, and if the film “shot”, then the $ will trample, and if not, then it is his own fault and he himself will answer for the $.
        2. +2
          12 March 2024 09: 07
          You think wrong. Filmmakers don’t give a damn about box office receipts; they’ve already made money from the state budget! When they start filming on their own or with bank loans, then there will be quality and cinemas, because you need to repay the loan and earn money. And when they shoot for budget money, then they will introduce the most severe censorship and re-shoot until they sweat until all the comments of the focus group and consultants are corrected! It will be right. Either do what they say and it’s good if you don’t have your own money, or go shoot for your own but without censorship, and if you fight back, well done, then natural selection will work and this mediocrity will quickly wash away. It’s hard to frame it as either or.
      2. +2
        11 March 2024 07: 44
        .
        Quote: AA17
        Maybe the soldiers returned from the Northern Military District.

        Do you think they are experts in the history of the Second World War?
        1. +3
          11 March 2024 08: 12

          And they, in your opinion, are experts in the history of the Second World War


          Yes. They are specialists.
          Officers, while studying at a military school, studied the history of the Second World War.
          One’s own experience of combat operations is also knowledge about the War.
          1. +5
            11 March 2024 17: 12
            Quote: AA17
            Yes. They are specialists.
            Officers, while studying at a military school, studied the history of the Second World War.
            One’s own experience of combat operations is also knowledge about the War.

            The Kadyrovites returned and got jobs as consultants. We will know that it was purely thanks to Allah and the Chechens that we were able to win.
          2. Aag
            0
            11 March 2024 22: 07
            Quote: AA17

            And they, in your opinion, are experts in the history of the Second World War


            Yes. They are specialists.
            Officers, while studying at a military school, studied the history of the Second World War.
            One’s own experience of combat operations is also knowledge about the War.

            With all due respect, let me object:
            ... How, who studied; who taught and how is a big question!
            ... This, if anything, comes from a graduate of a military-political school (though it’s an engineering faculty))).
            Seriously though, it looks like we didn’t know the truth... We knew the goals, principles, tasks...
            What now? Yes, I don't care! The commercial component as the only criterion for evaluating activities!!! (Moreover, short-term and personal! EVERYTHING!!!)...
      3. 0
        12 March 2024 12: 39
        Quote: AA17
        I propose to prohibit the making (i.e., allocating money) of films about the Second World War without undergoing certain censorship.

        In our reality, this will mean that the producer will also have to share with the censors.
    3. +4
      11 March 2024 07: 02
      Quote from turembo
      It’s not clear how the grandfathers won in such films

      How is it not clear? Everywhere they say - CONTRARY!
      Quote from turembo
      And who then even went on the attack??

      Like who? Mikhalkov with a shovel handle!
    4. +3
      11 March 2024 07: 20
      Quote from turembo
      Thank you for the article! That's right, the fewer veterans, the less truth there is.

      Grandfather spat on Soviet films about the war - and I think he would have broken the TV from modern consumer goods
    5. +7
      11 March 2024 09: 15
      Quote from turembo
      Thank you for the article! That's right, the fewer veterans, the less truth there is. But of course the level of vileness is very offensive

      It’s not about the veterans of the Great Patriotic War, it’s about the desire of these scoundrels to raise money on “patriotism” (according to their concept). In the state there is now an increased demand for patriotic films, songs, books, performances.... And at the trough, the budget, everything is the same, still with the same attitude to the history of Russia, to the people of Russia, to you and me... They are tightly attached to Russia. They drink the blood of the people... No, it should be noted that some “talents” have disappeared from Israel... Their true homeland.. But not all of them, unfortunately... There is simply not enough food for everyone there. So they churn out mediocre films, songs, books . Untalented talents not from our country.
      1. +3
        11 March 2024 16: 43
        There will be a demand for dousing with slop again, they will douse with slop again... As A.V. Kolchak put it on this occasion, they won’t remember it until nightfall?)))
  4. +3
    11 March 2024 05: 46
    I'm waiting for the film "Litvyak" to be completed. They can’t find money for it, it’s stated that it’s a biopic.
    1. +6
      11 March 2024 07: 04
      Quote: Lelik76
      I'm waiting for the film "Litvyak" to be completed. They can’t find money for it, it’s stated that it’s a biopic.

      I transferred money to the Panfilovites, and now I’m transferring it to Litvyak... That’s how people chip in a pretty penny and make normal films... sad
      1. Aag
        +1
        11 March 2024 22: 13
        Quote from: AllX_VahhaB
        Quote: Lelik76
        I'm waiting for the film "Litvyak" to be completed. They can’t find money for it, it’s stated that it’s a biopic.

        I transferred money to the Panfilovites, and now I’m transferring it to Litvyak... That’s how people chip in a pretty penny and make normal films... sad

        Let me ask you bluntly, how do you determine which film or project is worth investing in?
        Personally, I don’t have much to invest, but among such “rogues” I can ask a question...
        1. +1
          12 March 2024 11: 33
          Quote: AAG
          Let me ask you bluntly, how do you determine which film or project is worth investing in?

          I am not a sponsor of film projects. laughing These are one-time promotions. I saw somewhere on the net (I think it was from Goblin) about raising funds for “Panfilov’s 28 Men.” For me, as someone who was born and raised in Kazakhstan, this topic is close to my heart. (in our pioneer detachment, one of the division’s veterans was sponsored). I read about the script online, watched an interview with the director... I decided that it was worthwhile and I was not mistaken... And Litvyak is purely a director.
          Quote: AAG
          Personally, I don’t have much to invest, but among such “rogues” I can ask a question...

          So I didn’t invest any capital. Purely symbolically, for the sake of participation. Twenty here, thirty here...
  5. +5
    11 March 2024 05: 52
    There is no one to make films in which the true facts about the war! Now the main thing is that people eat any bullshit, so in the end we get such mediocre parodies of our past! By creating such anti-masterpieces, we deprive the future generations of the country of the opportunity to reflect on events unbiasedly, instead of the truth, people see what was ordered by someone This is a spit on the history of the USSR.
    1. +6
      11 March 2024 06: 36
      Quote: Thrifty
      Now the main thing is that people grab any bullshit
      People can't get enough of this bullshit, because it really is bullshit.
      1. 0
        11 March 2024 21: 15
        That's not the point at all. The topic addressed is not modern. The fighting in Donbass has been going on since 2014. The SVO is in its second year, and the films are about irrelevant events from the great war 80 years ago. There was already Afghanistan, Chechnya and 080808. They all seem to live on another planet.
        1. 0
          23 March 2024 21: 24
          SVO is in its second year
          .
          Come on*! It seems some are not only
          live on another planet
          but also at another time...
  6. +14
    11 March 2024 06: 07
    And who will ask the question why, once again, at the people’s expense, the Great Patriotic War and its heroes were so slandered?

    Probably, I guess, because they shy away from their own achievements and successes or dress them up in fairy-tale (fantastic) forms
    And whose order was fulfilled this time?

    Those for whom Stalin’s farewell speech on November 7, 1941 from the rostrum of the Mausoleum are simply infuriating (apparently, because of this, they drape it during military parades) ...
    Those who are forced by the declared 90% support to vote for three days and conduct it using electronic systems that are not subject to public control.
    Those who, during national holidays, insert old Soviet films into TV programs.
  7. +11
    11 March 2024 06: 19
    It’s a strange situation in our country; there is no money to make a film based on a real story, about a real person (Lydia Litvyak). But there are rants like this.
  8. +3
    11 March 2024 06: 22
    Once I listened to Medinsky on the “Culture” TV channel.
    Speech: a mixture of official jargon, cultural language and street slang.
    Apparently, he is trying to bribe the viewer with his simplicity and volume of knowledge (often unrelated).
    Like, I’m yours, I also go to McDonald’s (or whatever it is... this establishment)!

    I see a direct correlation between the behavior of this former minister
    and current “film makers” (they don’t deserve the name of profession):

    ..speculation, flirting with the masses, hyper-use of special effects,
    stupid action instead of drama, etc.
    And this too..Russia..((
  9. +7
    11 March 2024 06: 33
    It all started with the traitor and bastard Rezun-Suvorov, and then it went from strength to strength - the generals are fools, the technology is bad, Stalin is guilty of starting the war, etc.
    1. +3
      11 March 2024 07: 14
      And I thought that it all started with the cogs who betrayed communist ideology and destroyed the USSR?
      1. +1
        13 March 2024 10: 16
        They simply used the ideology of communism to create this same communism for themselves and their descendants.
    2. +5
      11 March 2024 07: 33
      Quote: Dutchman Michel
      It all started with the traitor and bastard Rezun-Suvorov, and then it went from strength to strength - the generals are fools, the technology is bad, Stalin is guilty of starting the war, etc.

      Why did it all start with him? Because the authorities classified everything they could and what they couldn’t, they closed their eyes, “They say it didn’t happen!! It’s all lies!!”
      And then when Suvorov appeared with simple answers to complex questions, naturally the people believed him, and not the lying authorities. And the country went downhill......

      In the article, the author touched on smoking - everyone smoked to relieve hunger, nervousness, etc.
      1. 0
        11 March 2024 16: 44
        Not true. Many people didn’t smoke then.
        1. -2
          11 March 2024 17: 54
          Quote: Grencer81
          Not true. Many people didn’t smoke then.

          Those who did not smoke - when ration tobacco appeared - they exchanged it and sold it. Grandfather could not eat sugar until he was old (and onions - leaving the encirclement we came across a sugar warehouse and an onion field. We ate sugar with onions for two weeks) - exchanged sugar for tobacco.
          In Afgvne everyone smoked, in 1 Chechen too.
          1. 0
            13 March 2024 10: 13
            Again, it’s not true, my classmate Pashka never smoked and never started in Afghanistan, he never took a drop of alcohol into his mouth and was a teetotaler all his life. And a monogamist... How many years have passed since he buried his Tanya and so alone... Another one for him No need.
            1. 0
              13 March 2024 11: 29
              Quote: Grencer81
              Again, it’s not true, my classmate Pashka never smoked and never started in Afghanistan, he never took a drop of alcohol into his mouth and has been a teetotaler all his life.

              Only a person for the entire OKSVA who officially issued tobacco rations.
              You give an example of one person - our entire artillery regiment smoked,
              all 1 people.
              The ratio is 1/1300 - but at the same time you are telling me that I am lying.
              1. 0
                14 March 2024 06: 14
                And again a lie. Pashka was a sapper there. Red Star and Courage, participation in hostilities from 1980 to 1982. So you also slandered a person.
                1. 0
                  14 March 2024 06: 50
                  Quote: Grencer81
                  So you also slandered a person.

                  In which place?
                  I gave an example of our regiment - EVERYONE smoked, you gave an example of 1 person.
                  The ratio is 1/1300.
                  Even if there were 1000 such non-smokers for the entire Contingent, this is still a statistical error
      2. +1
        11 March 2024 17: 12
        Rezun-Suvorov has nothing breakthrough. I read it then in samizdat form. He has his priorities wrong. If the General Staff in 1941 developed plans to attack Nazi Germany, then this is a plus, not a minus. The ones that didn't hit first should go down as a minus. Rezun has the opposite. It didn’t make any impression then, no need to exaggerate. Samizdat was read mainly by people with education and they knew how to think independently.
        Now there are much tougher publicists, who are much more difficult to refute. One fled to Kyiv three years ago and broadcasts from there.
        1. 0
          11 March 2024 17: 58
          Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
          Rezun-Suvorov has nothing breakthrough.

          The question is not about breakthrough. - the people stopped trusting the authorities, and Rezun suggested simple answers to complex questions
          Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
          It didn’t make any impression then, no need to exaggerate.

          30 years have passed, and Rezun’s debunkers even created a historical direction - “Antisuvorov".
          So it made an impression - no need to downplay it....
        2. 0
          12 March 2024 09: 22
          Right. At the same time, when a work has started, so to speak, very quickly, within a day or two you begin to analyze it piece by piece and then all the manipulations and semantic holes and so on are revealed. But the first reaction is always emotional. I, too, at one time was freaked out by the Gulag Argipelago, a week later, slowly searching for confirming information, I was freaked out by this squalor, also with Suvorov. Today this is clearly visible in the articles about 404 in the West - the writing system is the same template and the calculation of emotions first, and then it doesn’t matter because other similar articles will come up with the ninth wave and again maintaining the necessary emotions in the client. When you understand the pattern, reading this becomes simply like a Murzilka magazine, purely for the sake of laughing. But people are different and fall for such patterns. They do the same with the distortion of the Second World War here. Look at what these Russians themselves are filming about themselves, so that means Hitler was right that he went to the USSR? (Foreigners’ opinion about our modern cinema) And this is why this is done so that people will think so.
      3. Ash
        +1
        11 March 2024 18: 51
        Didn't you read books as a child? When I came across Icebreaker back in the 2000s, I tried to understand what kind of measurements the author was raving about. According to him, he went through almost the entire archive of the Red Army, but in reality it turned out that he was listed in the archive for at most a year, and even according to my modest estimates, he physically could not take out so much information that he summarized in his work. And a few years ago I came across a film with Guzeeva, where Rezun was also noted, looking at this craft it became finally clear what kind of goose it was.
    3. 0
      12 March 2024 03: 46
      It was Rezun-Suvorov who praised Soviet technology. They say that if Hitler had not attacked first, then Stalin would have captured all of Europe with such weapons. But I didn’t have time.
  10. +5
    11 March 2024 06: 33
    I haven’t watched modern crafts about the Great Patriotic War for a long time, for a long time and on principle. Because I don’t expect anything worthwhile. Although it is clear that modern cinema is not about education, but about money, but every time there is some kind of hope that maybe now, maybe this time they will do something more worthwhile, worthwhile. But no, give up hope, everyone who enters here (in the sense of entering the cinema). And even more so, when there is intrusive advertising, all desire to watch something like this disappears. Shit, in a word.
  11. +4
    11 March 2024 06: 42
    I go to the cinema now, I don’t go to war films. So that later the “toad” wouldn’t strangle him, so that G.. gave his money to openly. After half a year I look on the Internet. It’s easier and your nerves are safer.
    1. 0
      11 March 2024 06: 57
      Quote: steel maker
      After half a year I look on the Internet. It’s easier and your nerves are safer.

      And I always watch it online before the movie is released. Nowadays it’s a luxury to go to the cinema for money, I’d rather buy two sticks of sausage for that kind of money..
  12. +4
    11 March 2024 06: 43
    Red ghost
    Litvyak
    Film about the railway to besieged Leningrad
    28 panfilovtsev

    That’s it, I can’t remember any other worthy films, for 10-15 years
    And most importantly, there is a pattern. Decent films are not advertised on TV.
    Has anyone ever seen the Red Ghost commercial on TV? (or watched it?) Personally, I found out about it by accident, reading a review on a random site.

    But such and such enemy propaganda, or Nyataev (where they acquitted the traitor), T 34 (where they acquitted the ssovsts), Tired of the Sun (just without comments), the penal battalion (the favorite TV series of liberals) - they advertised from all the cracks
    1. +5
      11 March 2024 06: 54
      Quote: Ivan№One
      That’s it, I can’t remember any other worthy films, for 10-15 years
      And most importantly, there is a pattern. Decent films are not advertised on TV.

      I don’t know what quality the “Passenger” film will be, but the advertising on TV was very strong.
      But advertising immediately discourages viewing, especially if it is Channel One, an all-Russian federal television channel.
      1. +2
        11 March 2024 20: 00
        Several years ago there was news about the start of filming the film Sevastopol 1942, I don’t remember who the scriptwriter and director were, but this is the anniversary date of the liberation of the hero city, what to expect on a memorable and tragic date? What “masterpiece” are they preparing for us?
    2. -1
      11 March 2024 07: 36
      Quote: Ivan№One
      That’s it, I can’t remember any other worthy films, for 10-15 years

      "Scream of Silence", no?
    3. -1
      12 March 2024 00: 06
      I liked One more than Ghost.
  13. +8
    11 March 2024 06: 45
    For a long time now, our state has been spinning some strange mixture of “imperialism, Sovietness” and “liberalism”. It turns out to be porridge, but in this porridge you must definitely put raisins - manage to stuff in anti-Sovietism in any way. Even logically, one can understand that it is impossible to get something healthy here. Well, let's add all these things. budgets, eternal get-togethers and the general level of development of the “creators”. The result is on the screens.
  14. +3
    11 March 2024 06: 48
    Another movie about the Great Patriotic War has been released. We have already forgotten the film “Bastards”; Bondarchuk’s “Stalingrad” has almost been forgotten.

    Isn't the film "Rzhev" better than this rubbish?
  15. +7
    11 March 2024 06: 57
    As a child, I had two favorite films: “Baltic Sky” about pilots and “Lark” about tank crews. Cool psychological films, but for some reason you won’t see them on TV.
    1. -1
      11 March 2024 22: 49
      Quote from pavel.tipingmail.com
      As a child, I had two favorite films: “Baltic Sky” about pilots and “Lark” about tank crews.

      For me, “The Fate of Man” and “They Fought for the Motherland” are above all.
  16. +3
    11 March 2024 07: 13
    Our cinematography is one complete blunder. No, there are “masterpieces”: Cheburashka, Pike, Skates, the last heroes, the Bremen Town Musicians, flying ships. And the film “Air” is essentially a parody of the film “Heavenly Slugger”
    1. +7
      11 March 2024 07: 56
      Wow comparison!!!! “The Heavenly Slug” is a favorite film of many generations, patriotic, musical, and what artists! And this “remnant saboteur”...
      1. +3
        11 March 2024 08: 00
        I would like to clarify, they wanted to shoot “Baltic Sky” at the same time, it turned out to be “Air”
      2. +1
        11 March 2024 23: 03
        Quote: ishkovam
        Wow comparison!!!! “The Heavenly Slug” is a favorite film of many generations, patriotic, musical, and what artists! And this “remnant saboteur”...

        The films are good, but I believe all my grandfathers, uncles, father and all my relatives who remained alive from our large family, where out of 28 people of my relatives, 12 people remained alive, so I believe them. And especially to my grandfather Dmitry, who started the war in 1939 and ended in Harbin. They're not lying, they smelled her of blood. I have his recordings on a dictaphone and keep them.
    2. 0
      11 March 2024 22: 51
      Quote: parusnik
      And the film "Air" is essentially a parody of the film "Heavenly Slug"

      Not a parody, but a mockery of the pilots of the Great Patriotic War.
      1. 0
        12 March 2024 22: 27
        I don’t belittle the heroism of the pilots of the Great Patriotic War, but I can’t find an answer to one question. Where were our fighter pilots in the second half of August 1942, when the Germans bombed Stalingrad? I ask because I am interested and to observe the principle of unity and the struggle of opposites.
        I don’t like biting phrases when people start criticizing excessively.
  17. +5
    11 March 2024 07: 35
    I don't watch modern cinema. At all. Nothing. The exception was 2 films: “The White Tiger” and “28 Panfilov’s Men”. And maybe I would agree 100% with the article... But there are a few but... The author laments that in the frame there are military personnel in hats and caps, but that’s how it happened! And tell the guys in the photo that it wasn't like that! But this is the spring of 45, Brno. Were the Germans beaten to death with rifle butts? It happened too. And for what they did - little! Got off cheap. It happened, and there’s no getting away from it. Aiming a pistol at airplanes, walking around indifferent, not reacting to blood? I’m wondering (actually not), what kind of stupor a woman, and not only others, can fall into under bombing? There, in my opinion, you will shoot and aim from a slingshot. Did the pilot not shoot in combat? Remember "Only old men go into battle." The materiel is not according to Feng Shui? This is not (or rather, not only this) the value of the film. In the same “They are going into battle...” there is no copy of our fighters and “Messers”, and the air battles are not spectacular. Its value lies elsewhere! It’s fashionable to shoot a masterpiece without technology, special effects, etc. But “Air” is probably not this case...
    1. +2
      11 March 2024 08: 08
      You are absolutely right - it’s not about the details, but about the residual impression of the film, its ideas, the understanding that remains in a person’s mind and which is then transferred to his life position. And what kind of life position does this “masterpiece” form?
    2. +3
      11 March 2024 08: 26
      The White Tiger is a good film for the current times.
      The films Zvezda and In August 44 are quite watchable.
      I barely watched 28 Panfilov's Men, it's fake, although the authors tried.
    3. -2
      11 March 2024 17: 20
      I also think that the author is distorting his criticism.
      For example, he cites navigator Raskova as an example, although the most famous fighter pilot was Litvyak.
      And why didn’t Bondarchuk like the film “Stalingrad”? There are many confirmed historical episodes from which the film itself is compiled, following the model of the “9th Company”, which was filmed about Afghanistan. From Bondarchuk’s film I even learned something new for myself about the battles in Stalingrad.
      1. +1
        12 March 2024 16: 35
        Sergey Aleksandrovich
        "9th Company" is a clumsy movie creation. In general, according to my impressions, Bondarchuk made the only film that can be watched - this is “Ghost”. There are a lot of technical mistakes in "Ghost", but, on the whole, the film is not bad and quite watchable.

        "Stalingrad" is, rather, "Avatar in Stalingrad." Purple background, like in "Avatar", a plot sucked out of thin air. For some reason, the romance of a German officer with a Russian girl is placed at the center of the plot. In short, the film is not clear about what, certainly not about Stalingrad.

        I will repeat about Raskova. The filmmakers inserted a heroine into the film who is clearly based on Raskova. It’s not clear where she came from, why she’s being rude to the commander, and you don’t immediately understand what she’s doing. I didn’t mention Litvyak, because she has nothing to do with this movie blunder.

        Many confirmed historical episodes
        The complaint is not about the episodes, but about how they are presented, and what rotten thoughts the director wants to plant in the heads of the audience. This is not a documentary where they simply “show episodes.” It was presented as “a movie about the feat of female pilots.” And a movie was released, to which “The Dirt and the Vile of Psychopaths” is more suitable.
        1. -3
          12 March 2024 20: 17
          You do not understand the film "Stalingrad" and in fact are engaged in slander, because you know nothing about the events that took place there, and you do not even know about the course of the battle.
          Let's start with the fact that Bondarchuk was the first to film the night events of the Battle of Stalingrad, which no one had done before. This was noted by the historian Isaev. Your complaints about the purple background are therefore immediately discarded and can be considered just as purple.
          The attitude of the Germans towards civilians is also correctly reflected in the film, sometimes indirectly, sometimes directly. And the episode with the removal of the population is depicted truthfully. You, as an amateur and ignorant, will not understand this. It is by comparing the 6th Army under the command of Paulus and the Ukrainian nationalists that one can conclude that the Ukrainian nationalists surpassed the Germans in fanaticism.
          Paulus, perhaps, is why he was not tried at the Nuremberg Tribunal.
          According to the stories of relatives, before being taken out of the city, they ate burnt grain, which the Germans, to celebrate, allowed the residents to take out and remove from the elevator they had captured. Such a photograph of the export of grain is in E. Kobyakov’s book “Unknown Stalingrad”. The book, although controversial, allows us to evaluate what happened.
          But the complete memories of relatives cannot be publicly reproduced here, especially regarding the command staff of the Red Army; your patterns will break. First, check out what happened to the surviving crew members of the BK-10.10.1942 armored boat that sank on October 31, XNUMX. Eremenko, and therefore also, among the marshals, victories were rarely mentioned.
          The film helps to build a complete picture of what was happening in Stalingrad, but you didn’t understand it. For myself, unlike you, I learned a lot of new things from there.
          1. +1
            12 March 2024 22: 54
            Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
            The film helps to build a complete picture of what was happening in Stalingrad, but you didn’t understand it.

            Sorry, but I haven’t read more nonsense for a long time. For us, born after the Second World War, young Bondarchuk cannot be deceived, but his grandchildren can.
            1. -1
              13 March 2024 07: 36
              Uncle, I received information from there from living witnesses, but you got it from TV and you’re unlikely to be older than me.
              1. +1
                13 March 2024 08: 21
                Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
                Uncle, I received information from there from living witnesses, but you got it from TV and you’re unlikely to be older than me.

                I’m older and I think a lot.
          2. 0
            13 March 2024 16: 15
            Sergey Aleksandrovich
            And the complete memories of relatives cannot be publicly reproduced here, especially regarding the command staff of the Red Army, you will have a break in patterns

            Somehow you think very smartly for others. Yes, write, it’s a pity, or something... It even became curious...

            Your complaints about the purple background, therefore, go straight to the furnace, can be considered the same purple
            And your claims are violet to me... The entire film is in violet colors, regardless of whether the events take place during the day or at night.
            If you don't know, everything is black and gray at night. During the day, in the battle zone, the fire is red-orange, the smoke is black, the earth scattered from explosions is yellow-brown, the dust from the ruins is gray. Where did purple come from? Not otherwise, Bondarchuk, instead of using the entire film crew, used something purple.

            The film helps to build a complete picture of what was happening in Stalingrad at that time.
            There are some fragments there against the backdrop of a dubious romantic story.

            For myself, unlike you, I learned a lot of new things from there
            It's amazing how people can find something where there is nothing? Was your Bondarchuk in the archives? Have you talked to veterans? At best, I read a couple of dubious books (and even, most likely, not by him, but by the students who wrote the script for him). You can only learn something from this film if you know nothing at all on the topic.

            Don’t tell fairy tales about humane Germans and “evil special officers”. The individual humanism of individual Germans, in general, does not whitewash the overwhelming majority of the Wehrmacht military, who treated Soviet citizens as subhumans. I won’t argue about Paulus – I wasn’t interested. But there are many other examples of what “supermans” did on Soviet soil.
            Likewise, the excesses and arbitrariness of certain “officials” of the Red Army do not make the Red Army vile and vicious.
            1. -1
              13 March 2024 16: 23
              Bondarchuk had a screenwriter and consultants, apparently not the worst.
              And, just from the film, it is very clear that the Ukrainian Nazis surpassed the German fascists in cruelty, they are just not allowed to swing, their scale is not the same.
              But you don’t know the history of the Battle of Stalingrad, but Bondarchuk’s film fits well with history. And your speculations have nothing in common with history.
              The Germans took and expelled the civilian population from Stalingrad, and the Ukrainian Nazis in Mariupol covered themselves with them. The Germans allowed burnt grain to be collected from the elevator, and the Ukrainians turned over the food pots of civilians in Mariupol.
              1. 0
                13 March 2024 16: 39
                And, just from the film, it is very clear that the Ukronatsi

                In what movie? Where are the Ukrainian Nazis in the film "Air" or "Stalingrad"?
                For some reason you are mixing the bitter with the smelly.
                All you have to do is write that the Germans were better than Svidomo. Burnt grain is better than overturned pots!
          3. +2
            13 March 2024 16: 22
            Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
            Paulus, perhaps, is why he was not tried at the Nuremberg Tribunal.

            Paulus was one of the main witnesses at Nuremberg.
            1. -1
              13 March 2024 16: 28
              The Germans had different commanders, the same Model shot himself in advance, he knew that the gallows was waiting for him. There were no war crimes against Paulus.
              1. 0
                13 March 2024 16: 47
                I’ll tell you more, the Germans had General Otto Roemer, who at first bravely fought with our army, and then saved Hitler from assassination attempt. And after the war, he organized a party that was considered neo-Nazi in Germany and advocated ... cooperation with the USSR, against the USA!
                They even believed that he was working for Soviet intelligence, and ... she saved him from repression by placing him as an adviser to Bashar al-Assad’s father. Moreover, at the end of his life, Otto Roemer advocated the creation of a single state from Russia and Germany.
                And what? Does this change anything?
                What are you getting at? Are you trying to whitewash the Wehrmacht and crap the Red Army? "Informed gentleman"?
                1. -1
                  13 March 2024 16: 49
                  Here you are trying to whitewash the Ukronazi.
                  1. 0
                    13 March 2024 16: 53
                    Sorry, but here, you, I’m using a colloquial expression - you are “driving” am
                    However, like everywhere else on this site.
                    You regularly throw out “presentations” without any justification, directly attributing to yourself “brilliant expertise.”
                    You also attack individuals. This is what people do who have no arguments. This is called a "weak position." You just have nothing to say - just empty pathos.
                    Unconstructive and boring.
        2. -2
          12 March 2024 20: 29
          And it’s not appropriate for you to criticize the “9th Company”. Everything there is based on real events, except for the details of the battle itself. Everything else in the film is real facts of those times, unknown to the general public, even Snow White is a real character. But I knew about this even without the film, but you didn’t. Perhaps the brutal hazing there is not reflected in the film.
          1. 0
            13 March 2024 16: 32
            Sergey Aleksandrovich
            And it’s not appropriate for you to criticize the “9th Company”
            Is it “befitting” for you to defend film bloopers? Have you been to Afghanistan? Or again, “Rabinovich sang?” Or are you a relative of Bondarchuk?

            Everything there is based on real events, except for the details of the battle itself.
            That's exactly what is "founded". You seem to be either pretending or not understanding how films (and not only them) are made. Your “real facts” are nothing! It is important how these facts are presented, and what attitude they try to form in the viewer. Take a look at YouTube - they show “real facts” and everything is turned upside down.
            And the Soviet film about the war, where German soldiers drive MAZs, is a masterpiece, and this “Air”, where a natural Studebaker is a turd.

            the brutal hazing there is not reflected in the filmBut this is already a marker of what you are:
            1.Don't know
            2. You are deliberately spreading typical stereotypical crap.
            In a war zone, hazing usually comes to naught for one simple reason - everyone is armed. In battle (and not only in battle), they can shoot you in the back - and no one will find who did it.
            But washing an old-timer’s foot wraps is not hazing. The sergeant yells at the new arrivals - this is not hazing - this happens in all armies.
            1. -1
              13 March 2024 16: 46
              That’s enough, I understand who I’m dealing with, at least from the pearl about hazing in Afghanistan, no more is needed. In Bondarchuk, so to speak, hazing relationships are shown in the most smoothed-out form, so as not to affect the tender feelings of people like you. Continue to live in your world of “pink ponies”, I don’t dare interfere.
              1. 0
                13 March 2024 16: 49
                You live in the world of “pink ponies”. Have you even served in the army?
        3. -2
          12 March 2024 21: 37
          Here is the opinion of a competent and responsible historian about Bondarchuk’s film.
          Alexey Isaev: Oddly enough, Bondarchuk’s film “Stalingrad”... And maybe even Fyodor Bondarchuk himself doesn’t know how many intersections it has with reality. Therefore, if we take Ozerov’s film, then it is fear and horror, and has a very distant relationship. The German film of 93 is the same nightmare and spreading cranberry. But Bondarchuk’s film has precisely the points of intersection with reality. There are a lot of these points. You directly read the documents, for example, the materials of the Mintz commission, when they interviewed veterans of the Battle of Stalingrad, and many episodes clearly have their roots from there. And the city of Stalingrad turned out to be generalized, that is, different locations were brought together into one point. And at the same time, again knowing how everything happened, and understanding that, for example, the struggle for Theater Square, the building with lions, it often turned out to be beyond the consideration of historians, although intense battles were fought there, and this was one of the key ones in September 42 year...
          And I completely agree with this opinion. You have naked criticism and slander.
          1. 0
            13 March 2024 08: 23
            Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
            Here is the opinion of a competent and responsible historian about Bondarchuk’s film.
            Alexey Isaev: Oddly enough, Bondarchuk’s film “Stalingrad”...

            What can a kid who is a year younger than my middle son know about history?
            1. -1
              13 March 2024 08: 32
              Because this historian knows almost everything, but your knowledge, apparently, is bad, very bad. Your knowledge of the Battle of Stalingrad only comes from movies and TV.
              1. 0
                13 March 2024 09: 42
                Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
                Your knowledge of the Battle of Stalingrad only comes from movies and TV.

                I watched movies and TV when I was studying in St. Petersburg, and then for 50 years I somehow managed without them. I know about the Battle of Stalingrad from my father, my uncle died who fought in Stalingrad. I believe my father, his brothers and uncles, and not some Isaev who “knows everything.”
                1. -1
                  13 March 2024 09: 49
                  Once again, I have information from those who were there during the battle. And yours are from TV and a school textbook. This is where your knowledge ends. Anyone interested in the history of the Battle of Stalingrad simply could not help but notice the books of A. Isaev or at least the books of E. Kobyakov.
                  1. 0
                    13 March 2024 09: 53
                    Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
                    Once again, I have information from those who were there during the battle. And yours are from TV and a school textbook.

                    Depending on where you got this information from, they don’t sell it in a grocery store.
                    1. -1
                      13 March 2024 09: 55
                      Several families lived in Stalingrad, saw and remembered a lot of things. They also lived not far from one of the symbols of defense, the Stalingrad elevator.
                      1. +1
                        13 March 2024 10: 11
                        Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
                        Several families lived in Stalingrad, saw and remembered a lot of things.

                        Well, this is a normal answer, thank you.
    4. +1
      11 March 2024 22: 53
      Quote: Mikhail Tynda
      I don't watch modern cinema. At all. Nothing. The exception was 2 films: "The White Tiger"

      I cannot see such mockery, knowing my uncle Vasily, a tank driver from 1941 to Berlin.
      1. +1
        13 March 2024 16: 36
        carpenter
        "White Tiger"

        I can't see such bullying
        Has Shakhnazarov, in general, made at least one good film, except for the very light “Courier”?
    5. +1
      12 March 2024 16: 22
      You see, it's not even about hats and caps. I wrote about this to highlight that the film is bad in every way. About “Germans beaten to death with rifle butts” - this is just one of the director’s dirty tricks, who wanted to show what scoundrels and sadists our soldiers were during the war.
      As for the main character, the director deliberately created the image of a mentally ill person, subtly instilling the thought: “look who fought.”
      About the materiel - apart from the clumsy aircraft models, the materiel is shown quite well. Quite authentic tanks, trucks, German anti-aircraft guns. I think this was done on purpose so that the filmmakers would believe that they were not deceiving. Look, we even showed you the “correct” technique, so “we are showing you the truth.”
      I enjoyed watching old Soviet films about the war, where the Germans were driven around in MAZs, and the Tigers were given out as T-54s with plywood boxes on top, and these films were real masterpieces! And from watching this film there was only one impression left: how I touched something dirty and vile.
  18. +8
    11 March 2024 07: 41
    This director is a well-known odorous substance. It's amazing that he rents everything with government money. It seems that his brothers in mind are in the Ministry of Culture.
    1. +6
      11 March 2024 08: 17
      It’s high time to clean up the Ministry of Culture, but no one seems to care
    2. +5
      11 March 2024 08: 52
      Quote: Aviator_
      His brothers in mind sit in the Ministry of Culture.

      His brothers in mind sit in all Russian ministries.
  19. +4
    11 March 2024 07: 52
    I have long been outraged by such films. I can’t understand how they are allowed to be shown?!!! Is there really no preliminary viewing and at least some competent commission?! Why do the same directors produce such lies year after year?! This is pure sabotage! Such films must be considered as, at a minimum, anti-Russian information activities that form false ideas among young people about the history of their Motherland, discrediting the honor and dignity of the people who defended our country from the Nazis. Such films undermine the moral foundations of patriotism and transform the consciousness of people, especially young people who do not yet have critical thinking. Such information is especially dangerous if presented on an emotional level. This is how they plant “bombs” in the future generation of people alienated from their homeland. Ultimately, the Minister of Culture should be responsible for this
    1. -1
      11 March 2024 17: 25
      Not in defense of the film, I didn’t like it either, but don’t the episodes from the film Stalingrad from 1989 by Yuri Ozerov outrage you? There, Khrushchev's son kills by accident as a form of entertainment, and in front-line Stalingrad they drink champagne. Didn't you offend? There are plenty of reasons to be offended, I can give you more.
  20. +4
    11 March 2024 08: 18
    The film “Air” is another spit on the Great Patriotic War


    and they didn’t even think about making a film about the Great War, they simply used the budget, and in the way they saw fit - without asking anyone (including those who “gave” this budget to them)
    1. +2
      11 March 2024 08: 43
      Quote: Dedok
      they simply spent the budget, and in the way they saw fit - without asking anyone (including those who “dumped” this budget to them)

      Yes, are you aiming at the sacred, at the very foundations of our existence?

      No, those who dumped the money were asked ten times and clarified ten times about who would do what.
      And then they performed it, and even exceeded it....
    2. +4
      11 March 2024 09: 09
      They wanted to make this film for festivals.
      But they began to redo it, and then they mixed everything up. And at the beginning the film was not so hot anyway, and then they began to remake it.
      Because the film is a festival film and should be pacifist and anti-war
  21. +7
    11 March 2024 08: 19
    A familiar film from Putin's time.
    In one recent film, a woman alone overhauled the engine of a heavy tank overnight in the forest in the winter and the next morning she was fresh, with makeup, blush, lipstick and clean hands.
  22. +6
    11 March 2024 08: 39
    but it happens that if an apple tree goes crazy in old age, then the apple can go crazy without waiting for old age. I'm talking about Herman Sr. with his film "Khrustalev! The Car!" and about Herman Jr. with his film "Air". About "Khrustalev! The car!" I will only say that there is not a single adequate character, but our “beau monde elite” recognized the film as gorgeous even before the premiere. By the way, being about the same age as his son, who filmed the obscenity about female pilots "Air", German Sr. made a very decent film about pilots "Torpedo Bombers".
    If we talk about another poison from the film "Air", Soviet men were poisoned with it. Everything offends “poor” women. And this is putting it mildly: “offends”. Hence the conclusion that soon there will be films with the subtext “why do we need these men, we really need a girlfriend, I have a wonderful vibrator.” Which fully corresponds to the trends of perversion and the attitudes of Western curators “watching” Russian cinema today and corresponds to the desires of the modern “elite beau monde”. It was he who watched the film “Air” to the end and applauded, and serious spectators, half an hour after the start of the film, left the cinema and spat with relish.
    1. +4
      11 March 2024 09: 25
      Torpedo bombers removed by Agranovich
      1. +1
        11 March 2024 09: 39
        yes, this is not my accuracy. I'm sorry . "To Torpedo Bombers" Herman Sr. wrote the script. But the script is about who and what the film will be about, this is the main thing for the film - the idea. And the director has no right to turn this idea around. And that idea then from Herman Sr. turned out to be correct and truthful... Well, what is the idea for Herman’s old age in his “Khrustalev! Machine”, where he is both a screenwriter and a director?
  23. +2
    11 March 2024 08: 42
    I didn’t die, but I blame you!
  24. +1
    11 March 2024 08: 49
    Quote: Nexcom
    The most decent modern film about the Second World War is “28 Panfilov’s Men.”

    PS And "Penal Battalion" I don’t even want to remember. There Serebryakov simply raised money for himself on the set and that’s all.

    From the point of view of historicity, the Panfilovites and the Penal Battalion were not very far from each other.
  25. +1
    11 March 2024 09: 00
    Quote: Ivan№One
    Red ghost
    Litvyak
    Film about the railway to besieged Leningrad
    28 panfilovtsev

    That’s it, I can’t remember any other worthy films, for 10-15 years
    And most importantly, there is a pattern. Decent films are not advertised on TV.
    Has anyone ever seen the Red Ghost commercial on TV? (or watched it?) Personally, I found out about it by accident, reading a review on a random site.

    But such and such enemy propaganda, or Nyataev (where they acquitted the traitor), T 34 (where they acquitted the ssovsts), Tired of the Sun (just without comments), the penal battalion (the favorite TV series of liberals) - they advertised from all the cracks

    Where in the T-34 was the SS man justified? Yes, the film is no different in its historicality and realism, but presenting the film with the fact that the German was not shown as an evil beast with horns and fangs is already too much, yes, a completely normal charismatic character, well, the world is not divided into black and white
  26. +4
    11 March 2024 09: 06
    As the movie hero of a Soviet film said: “You need to look wider..”

    If it’s “broader”, then it’s not just about the War, but in the fact that the USSR seems to be an epic Kingdom-state in which “everything is prohibited.” And it was not people who lived there, but “scoops” with dog heads and barking like dogs. And everything about them was different from normal ones.

    And the best ones were hysterical naive psychopaths, who of course all die in the end. This is where the fairy tale ends, and whoever listened was a fool! !
  27. +1
    11 March 2024 09: 07
    The film was a complete failure at the box office.

    That's how it failed...
    MOSCOW, January 22. /TASS/. The film "Air" directed by Alexei German Jr. collected over 140 million rubles in its first weekend at the Russian box office. The drama about Soviet pilots showed the best start among Russian military-themed films since 2020, reported the press service of Channel One, which participated in the creation of the film.

    “A large-scale military drama by Alexei German Jr. “Air” showed an excellent start on the first weekend and collected more than 140 million rubles at the Russian box office. “Air” showed the best starting result among Russian military-themed films since 2020, surpassing such films as “Righteous” "(121,2 million rubles), "Nuremberg" (102,2 million rubles), "1941. “Wings over Berlin” (38,4 million rubles), “Devyatayev” (78,2 million),” the statement said.

    By the way, no political workers are visible anywhere in the film.

    By the way, they are not particularly visible in Bykov’s “Only Old Men Go to Battle”
    1. +4
      11 March 2024 10: 30
      Quote from solar

      By the way, no political workers are visible anywhere in the film.

      By the way, they are not particularly visible in Bykov’s “Only Old Men Go to Battle”

      At Bykov's house one can see a major-pilot and the secretary of the regiment's party organization. What was put in reality is visible.
      1. 0
        11 March 2024 10: 59
        Political officers are not very visible. Shouldn't there have been political officers in the squadron and regiment? And their work is in no way visible. And the secretary of the party organization flashed by and that’s it.
        1. +1
          11 March 2024 16: 51
          In the regiment at the beginning of the war, the regimental commissar, then the deputy regiment commander for political affairs - the head of the political department of the regiment, in squadrons - political instructors, then the deputy commander for political affairs, political officers. The secretaries of the party organization were part of the political department and were not necessarily from the flight personnel, and here are the first two, flight positions.
  28. 0
    11 March 2024 09: 10
    Quote: North 2
    but it happens that if an apple tree goes crazy in old age, then the apple can go crazy without waiting for old age. I'm talking about Herman Sr. with his film "Khrustalev! The Car!" and about Herman Jr. with his film "Air". About "Khrustalev! The car!" I will only say that there is not a single adequate character, but our “beau monde elite” recognized the film as gorgeous even before the premiere. By the way, being about the same age as his son, who filmed the obscenity about female pilots "Air", German Sr. made a very decent film about pilots "Torpedo Bombers".
    If we talk about another poison from the film "Air", Soviet men were poisoned with it. Everything offends “poor” women. And this is putting it mildly: “offends”. Hence the conclusion that soon there will be films with the subtext “why do we need these men, we really need a girlfriend, I have a wonderful vibrator.” Which fully corresponds to the trends of perversion and the attitudes of Western curators “watching” Russian cinema today and corresponds to the desires of the modern “elite beau monde”. It was he who watched the film “Air” to the end and applauded, and serious spectators, half an hour after the start of the film, left the cinema and spat with relish.

    And then the State Department and the CIA had a hand?
  29. -7
    11 March 2024 09: 20
    I didn’t finish reading this opus. You write in such a way that I don’t want to read. complete nonsense. I haven’t seen the film, but you have taken upon yourself the right to speak for everyone. you don't have that right. go into another profession, maybe you will find something you like.
    1. -2
      12 March 2024 16: 44
      Gennady
      you write in such a way that I don’t want to read
      No one is forcing you... You yourself shouldered this heavy burden...

      you have taken upon yourself the right to speak for everyone. you don't have that right
      Didn't you take it upon yourself to "such right"?

      go into another profession
      What kind of profession is this?other profession"?
      ...And it’s always surprising when adults write sentences with a small letter...

      didn't watch the movie
      And look! Highly recommend!
      1. -1
        13 March 2024 08: 45
        spoke for himself. I’ve liked 4 Tankmen since childhood, even though there are more mistakes there than you wrote about the film. I especially like it when in one shot the heroine’s star on her belt badge is upside down and then almost immediately it’s normal. tell your stories in the kitchen, it’s more correct and kinder.
        1. 0
          13 March 2024 08: 54
          spoke for himself. I like 4 Tankmen and a Dog (born in the USSR in 1963) since childhood, even though there are more mistakes there than you wrote about this film. I especially like it when in one shot the heroine’s star on her belt badge is upside down and then almost immediately it’s normal. tell your stories in the kitchen, it’s more correct and kinder. And I also liked the film Devyatayev, although the main character is not very thin for this role, but he played well. I think you’ll also like Air. Judging by your words, it’s a very good film for people with nostalgia for the USSR. I’m not a writer at all, that’s why I write from the heart and with mistakes. sorry. I think it won’t hurt you to love your MOTHERLAND. People like you change your shoes very quickly, that’s my opinion.
          1. -1
            April 13 2024 01: 56
            I just read it today. The only thing I can tell you is that you are a very strange person. Very strange... As if not from this planet
            1. 0
              April 13 2024 06: 24
              I’m a Soviet man and that says it all, I give up my seat on public transport, I help the elderly, even though I’m over 60, and even before that, all the conversations were in the kitchen over a glass, and now everyone is talking all sorts of nonsense on the Tyrnet.
              1. -1
                April 13 2024 08: 48
                Sorry, but you wrote complete nonsense... And the Soviet people who lived in the USSR and watched Soviet films about the war spit at the “air” and leave the hall. This “air” of yours is shawarma, made with dirty hands from stale and unknown meat.
                Do you, a “Soviet person”, actually watch “Air” yourself?
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  31. +3
    11 March 2024 10: 24
    Cinema is a business, they allocated money for a patriotic film “about the war” - here is the film. Is there a war? Eat. Ours won. And neither those who gave the money nor those who shot the film understand what “patriotism” is. The truth doesn’t interest anyone either - the film raised money and that’s the main thing. Business, nothing personal.

    The main thing is that between those who filmed and those who watched the same understanding, one might say, harmony. I can’t say what the product is.

    For me, the best film about war is “In War as in War.” The technique there is not entirely authentic, but that doesn't matter. Still, every frame is believable, as if it were a documentary.

    Now in Russia it is impossible to do this - and no one will be able to do it, and no one will watch..
  32. -4
    11 March 2024 10: 27
    I haven’t seen the film, but I don’t agree with the author and the majority of pensioner commentators, the films you criticize were made not for you, but for much younger generations, and they watch and will watch because these films are a product of their time, and there are film mistakes and inconsistencies in all films and in old Soviet ones too, they’re just closer to you, that’s all...
    1. +4
      11 March 2024 10: 50
      Are you forbidding military members from watching this? Should they shut up? They also have to guess with their money what is for them and what is not?
      Yes, my friend, you have already divided your contemporaries into varieties.... Do you probably consider yourself to be among the highest?

      And if a swashbuckling director makes one of your ancestors look like a complete idiot in his next masterpiece, is that okay?
      1. -2
        11 March 2024 10: 59
        I don’t forbid anyone to look at anything, and I don’t divide anyone into categories (they thought of it themselves and were offended), and it’s also not worth presenting yourself as the ultimate truth - as many people as there are so many opinions... hi
        1. +1
          11 March 2024 11: 05
          No... but... exactly divide. You yourself wrote: “this is for the white and fluffy ones who don’t care... And this is for the old and sick.” Heh.. heh.. how is it with Pushkin? “Don’t deny it, you wrote...”

          And to think that I am presenting myself as an “authority” is not correct. This is my business.. I have the right to think whatever I want, but not to tell anyone how you do it.
          1. -1
            11 March 2024 11: 11
            Why do you attribute to me what you do yourself? if you don't understand this.... well, I can't do anything about it request
            1. -2
              11 March 2024 17: 33
              I can be considered a retiree. The film is rather weak, it amounts to about a C grade at 40-45% of the allocated budget. I didn’t see anything particularly offensive that could touch the tender strings of the soul, it was just a so-so movie.
    2. +4
      11 March 2024 12: 48
      That is, idiotic films are suitable for young people. Oh times, oh morals...
      1. -3
        11 March 2024 12: 55
        Well, from your point of view they are idiotic, but for others they can be quite good
        1. +1
          11 March 2024 16: 47
          :) By what criteria are they not bad? It may be interesting for some to watch, but this is not a patriotic film about the Great Patriotic War, it is not truthful, not patriotic and is not worth the money invested in it.

          I immediately said - this is just a business project for an undemanding public - for them it is not bad. A million flies...
          1. -1
            11 March 2024 17: 00
            I agree about the business project, but about the rest these are everyone’s value judgments - an ordinary teenager won’t watch “Lark”, but he will definitely watch “T-34”, and if I watched the first one at least a dozen times, then about the second and once enough. Different generations, different perceptions and this is reality and there is no escape from it... hi
            1. 0
              12 March 2024 08: 03
              "And about the rest, these are value judgments"

              No, this is not a matter of value judgment, but of credibility. There is only one truth, and it doesn’t matter who is there and how they perceive it. If a dialogue is shown on the screen that could not have happened in the 40s of the last century, but the public likes it, this does not mean that such a dialogue has suddenly become true.

              If strength lies in truth, then such cinema will kill our strength. It seems that he is successfully coping with this task, just look at the ratio of mobilized and relocanted. Of course, cinema is not the only hero of such propaganda success.
              1. -1
                12 March 2024 08: 10
                and this is also just your value judgment wink
                1. 0
                  12 March 2024 10: 31
                  "and this is also just your value judgment"

                  This way you can deny everything, even the multiplication table. Which doesn't make it a "value judgement".

                  Not an argument.
                  1. -1
                    12 March 2024 10: 36
                    do not confuse warm with soft
                    1. 0
                      12 March 2024 11: 36
                      "Don't confuse warm with soft"

                      Past the cash register again :)
          2. +1
            12 March 2024 16: 53
            S.Z.
            this is just a business project for the undemanding public
            A business project - obviously, but not for the public, but for those who have “mastered” the next budget. Plus, perhaps (we don’t know) - there was an order to smear mud under the guise of realism
    3. +1
      12 March 2024 16: 50
      faiver
      didn't watch the movie
      So look!
      Oh, how disgusting this Chaliapin is! - How do you know? - And yesterday Rabinovich sang to me!

      the films you criticize were made not for you, but for much younger generations, and they watch and will watch because these films are a product of their time

      1. Most young people do not watch such films.
      2. Young people who watch:
      - “those who know” - spit at what crap they watched
      - “those who don’t know” - they spit even more because of the crap they watched
      - “liberal youth” - are happy that again they removed the crap with state money
      1. 0
        12 March 2024 17: 15
        I already understand that you consider yourself to be the ultimate truth in determining what is crap and what is not and that you are “always right”
        further discussion is pointless
        1. 0
          12 March 2024 17: 19
          faiver
          It is always surprising to see how a person attributes his own views to others.
          And then they argued with themselves, and also summed up the results of this dispute.
          But why did you write here?
          So that everyone knows that "you can play chess with yourself, in your head"?
  33. +5
    11 March 2024 10: 30
    Holy shit, Author, why are you surprised? For today's Vlasovites, if they somehow do not spit on the Soviet past, then the day will be spent in vain. Only now they completely forget that if not for this Soviet past they would not have a present now. And it’s also surprising that in the film there was no “stupid political officer” and “bloody sadistic specialist”, and regarding the way discipline is shown in the film, it’s a direct copy of Hollywood American war films, take a good look at them.
  34. +9
    11 March 2024 11: 51
    They filmed it to suit the majority and the tastes of the majority of this - the tastes of people who, for the sake of their sweet souls, gobble up tear-squeezing drama-melodramas, who like to burst into tears in a circle of 100500, looking at the difficult fate of some collective farmer Masha, at the same time stupid, naive and correct, who makes her way, so say, contrary to. Such an audience all sees their destiny in the fate of such heroes who were accidentally locked in a washing machine at full cycle. And they are ready to pay to watch this again and again and again, and, in fact, THIS is what they produce for them. Now you can train a neural network to sculpt such a hat, in fact, but people are still doing this - and apparently they get good money for it.
    Why did it fail at the box office? This is logical - women of pre-retirement age do not go to cinemas (with rare exceptions), they watch film masterpieces in the zombie box in the kitchens, where they have handkerchiefs stocked and fish and chips are fried next door.
    And a different audience goes to cinemas, but we have never really bothered to understand the tastes of these people - why? The salary is dwindling, the experience is decreasing, the state channels will still buy it.
  35. +3
    11 March 2024 12: 23
    Has someone spoiled the “air”? It is not surprising that this will continue as long as films are made not for the viewer, but for the theft of the state budget. Considering that the competent authorities in this case turned out to be surprisingly incompetent, they either don’t care, or they are in the lot: they don’t work for a bun with a tram.
  36. +4
    11 March 2024 13: 07
    Don't look at the crafts of these shit creators. Whether the T-34 is a black libel, it’s not because of great intelligence, but because of its complete absence. The thirst of mediocrities to make money even by slandering the history of their country, to the delight of all scum, equates them with this scum.
  37. 0
    11 March 2024 13: 08
    I'm not a film critic, the last film I saw was Hell's Finest.
    In my non-specific opinion, the problem of our cinema is that all the directors are brilliant, and then reality in the form of consultants (if there were any) gets in the way.
    We do not have a system for adequately evaluating films and other works. Yes, I understand that it is difficult to derive criteria, but at least start with technical consultants! Introduce technical expertise so that there are no mistakes!
    A change in the worldview of our creative intelligentsia is a change of generations. I don’t believe that these perestroika people will re-educate, we need new people who are absolutely not connected with the current crowd. In short, take Serdyukov out of storage and throw him into culture!
  38. -2
    11 March 2024 13: 12
    If the film is so bad, is it even worth extending the argument to 100 comments? I recently tried to watch some old half-zombie horror movie about a Civil War in the USA. I doubt that when he came out they had heated discussions about “trampling on the memory of the dead.” Just no one was watching it.
  39. +4
    11 March 2024 13: 17
    The Investigative Committee should pay attention not to the director of the film, but to those individuals in high positions who finance the creation of such “masterpieces” from the state budget. “Our” Ministry of Culture has long ago demanded a major cleaning. And the problem is not only in “artistic” cinema and theater... Culture in general has been turned into an ersatz “culture” for a westernized consumer.
  40. 0
    11 March 2024 13: 22
    What makes a bad movie a bad movie is the discrepancy between what the filmmakers and financiers want to show and what the masses perceive. People honor war heroes, but some directors only see money, not heroes...
    In addition, the cultural administration must bear responsibility for this, because it did not stop the villains from getting waste into the eyes and minds of people...
  41. +3
    11 March 2024 13: 39
    And who will ask the question why, once again, at the people’s expense, the Great Patriotic War and its heroes were so slandered? And whose order was fulfilled this time?

    Is it unclear to you? New Russia was born at the end of the 20th century as an anti-USSR. And the victory of the USSR in the war is an ideological threat to the very existence of the Russian Federation and at the same time a great threat and they will not recognize the victory in the war.
    For other republics it was easier - they could easily accept Nazism as an ideology, but for the new Russia it is much more difficult to explain that Russia won the war, but despite the USSR, which interfered, it would win with little bloodshed.
  42. +4
    11 March 2024 14: 09
    I agree with most readers. It is simply impossible to watch modern “crafts”. I recently rewatched “They Fought for the Motherland” and “Hot Snow.” I caught myself thinking that I wasn’t watching a “movie” through the screen, but that I was standing with the characters in the film, with them, there. The actors are absolutely natural, the uniform, although brand new, is dirty and torn, but it is clear that it fits the military man as it should. These political instructors and sadistic special officers are not there. Nothing causes rejection. I think that the main reason is that “those” directors and actors, or rather many of them, went through the war, and “these” are simply earning money. The last decent film about the war, in my opinion, is "In August '44"
    1. 0
      11 March 2024 20: 25
      yeah, I’m watching a “modern” film about the Second World War and there’s an episode.. well, like generals (without shoulder straps, that means until the spring of 1943) their immediate superior comes up to them and.. these bastards stand like.. civilian guys.. legs shoulder-width apart. There were two racks in the Red Army; quietly and freely and in both...heels together and toes apart...and in the Russian Armed Forces it’s the same...i.e. the actors in the army didn’t serve in the theme, they don’t know it, and they don’t even have a mustache.. and so on in everything.. people say in the fall of 1941.. A Soviet officer.. there were red commanders.. in general, without swearing to comment...difficult...
    2. -4
      12 March 2024 21: 00
      Yah? “Battalions Ask for Fire” and “Hot Snow” according to Bondarev may not contain “sadistic special officers”, but in this regard they are no better, and even worse. In the first film, the main character is ready to be arrested and put on trial for his words, but in the second he is sent to certain death under the enemy’s machine guns. In both stories, there is sheer injustice, careerism, cruelty and arrogance. Bondarev’s plots disgusted me even more than the current crafts. Except that the films themselves were generally of better quality.
  43. +4
    11 March 2024 14: 48
    Another movie about the Great Patriotic War has been released. We have already forgotten the film “Bastards”; Bondarchuk’s “Stalingrad” has almost been forgotten. Apparently, they decided to remind us that “the enemy does not sleep.” The film, in the truest sense of the word, is a dull piece of crap. Dejection permeates the entire film.

    Of course there is enough crap in our cinema! You probably can’t list everything. But I am surprised by another piece of shit, the one that, when leaving the cinema and smiling strained at the camera, says - “Oh, what a wonderful film we all just watched! Everyone is at the cinema!”
    1. UAT
      +3
      11 March 2024 18: 59
      So these are the actors of the commercial!
  44. +5
    11 March 2024 15: 29
    There are “experimental” films, but it’s time to introduce a new category for some Russian film products - “excremental”.
    1. +2
      12 March 2024 16: 56
      Skorin
      it's time to introduce a new category for some Russian film products - "excremental"
      Here! Bull's-eye!
  45. +2
    11 March 2024 15: 34
    And who made money from such a film? Just business... Is anyone else surprised?
  46. +3
    11 March 2024 16: 35
    The passage about “unbridled smoking advertising” amused me.
    1. +1
      12 March 2024 16: 59
      FarewellThe passage about “unbridled advertising of smoking” was amusing
      The main psychopath of the film literally forces other girls to smoke. And the director somehow focuses on this in a very unhealthy way... Well, they didn’t smoke vapes or Marlboros there yet... Oh, yes, there was an advertisement for Camel... How could he even get there?
  47. 0
    11 March 2024 17: 56
    Eh, there were “The Ballad of a Soldier”, “Shield and Sword”, “Liberation”, “Blockade”, “They Fought for the Motherland”, “Battalions Ask for Fire”...
    You watch it dozens of times and can’t stop watching it!
    It’s good that the directors of that time with the actors and consultants of that time filmed all this, otherwise what would we be left with now?
    It seems that those epic directors are as far from the current ones as Pushkin and Lermontov are from Galkin and Zibeltrud.
  48. +1
    11 March 2024 17: 56
    The saddest thing is that such “masterpieces” are filmed for budget funds
  49. +2
    11 March 2024 18: 39
    Quote: Million
    Usual movie

    Here we need one important remark: modern buffoon actors, major directors cannot create anything normal, because they themselves are 100% children of our time, the time of hucksters, immorality, depravity and satiety....
  50. UAT
    0
    11 March 2024 18: 58
    I haven't watched it, but I support the condemnation. True, it would not be harmful for the author of the article to know that Raskova had nothing to do with fighter aviation, and died while being the commander of the female bomber regiment she formed on the Pe-2. I could be wrong, but this happened during the formation period in the deep rear during landing.
    1. +1
      12 March 2024 17: 02
      UATit would be harmless for the author of the article to know that Raskova had nothing to do with fighter aviation
      Did I write that Raskova was a fighter? It’s just that the director invited an actress who looks like Raskova to the film, and did it intentionally
  51. BAI
    -1
    11 March 2024 19: 05
    And I read exactly the opposite reviews of the film. And who to believe? After all, I haven’t seen the film and won’t.
    Is the author aware that films about war have not been made for a long time?
    They make fantasy films about war.
    What are your complaints about the fairy tale?
    In The Last Bogatyr, even Dobrynya was spoiled, and this is the only epic hero against whom there were no complaints in the epics. There were no complaints against him even by modern standards.
    But now - there is
    1. +1
      11 March 2024 19: 32
      In The Last Bogatyr, even Dobrynya was shitted

      I could be wrong (I haven’t watched it), but the “last heroes” films were created jointly with Disney (or some similar transnational corporation) as part of replacing positive heroes with negative ones, i.e. in accordance with the global agenda of replacing evil and good.
      1. BAI
        +1
        11 March 2024 19: 40
        The films "The Last Heroes" were created jointly with Disney

        Namely with him. The only plus is that they spat in the direction of Buzova, Sobchak and Kirkorov
        1. -1
          12 March 2024 21: 23
          Kirkorov, apparently, is not offended, since he starred in the film, and even in the colorful outfits he loved so much. And Buzova and Sobchak were hardly offended, they were rather amused.
      2. -2
        12 March 2024 21: 09
        And the film “Stalingrad” by Yuri Ozerov from 1989 was shot with American money, so the American actor Chuikov plays there and naked anti-aircraft gunner girls appear in the frame, so what?
        Do we also recognize the film as immoral and in line with the interests of the then worst enemy?
    2. 0
      11 March 2024 20: 28
      Well, the damned NKVD did split (yeah, 17 centuries later) ''the enemy''...and in our time (according to declassified archives) their descendants removed this...HERESY..
  52. -3
    11 March 2024 19: 13
    The question is, why weren’t you so upset about “Devyatayev”?
    Did you pay there? laughing
  53. 0
    11 March 2024 19: 30
    Of the films about the Second World War over 30 years, you can watch “In August 44th”, “28 Panfilov’s Men” and “321 Siberians”. This is my opinion (I don’t know about the Podolsk cadets, I haven’t seen them).
    PS Haven't people looked at YouTube "321 Siberian. Part One"? I didn't notice any praise or criticism in the comments. They filmed mainly with people's money.
  54. +2
    11 March 2024 19: 54
    A blunder is a mistake in something, and this is another BLAZER. Maybe these movie swindlers should already be declared foreign agents after such a result is given?
  55. 0
    11 March 2024 20: 17
    The budget of the film is 500 million, the box office is 500 million. To break even, you need to collect k = 2.2 at the box office, i.e. 1,1 billion. Well, they failed miserably. The film is frankly cheap, simple to zero zero. It's nice that our audience doesn't watch crap and shows the middle finger to mediocre managers. Around the 30th minute I started to feel sick, I suffered a little more and passed out. It's a pity that this is being filmed in our country.
  56. 0
    11 March 2024 20: 50
    I fully support the author and commentators; for me, it is insulting to front-line soldiers to watch modern films about war. I always watch “Only Old Men Go to Battle” and “Night Witches in the Sky” on May 9th; I don’t even try to watch the rest of the movies. Historical films of the same category (. But most of all I was horrified by the situation with the theater, when my son was going to watch “Hamlet”, and there Hamlet is played by a woman, and Ophelia by a man)))). Poor Shakespeare! But the director has such a “vision”. And this is in one of the oldest theaters.
  57. +1
    11 March 2024 21: 40
    Films about war should be about the war, as hard, dirty and bloody as it was. There are a lot of true films, “The Living and the Dead”, “In War, Like in War”, and you need to look up to such films. In my opinion, “In War as in War” was released after Brezhnev watched it. The essence of the complaint was that there was not a single general in it. After watching it, Brezhnev said, “The war was won not by generals, but by colonels.” For me, this film is one of the best. I watched “Liberation” after its release at the age of 20, after the release of the film and Zhukov’s memoirs, many regretted that it was not Zhukov who led the country. Now, after 70, you understand that the scenes of Zhukov and Stalin were distorted, smart Zhukov and Stalin, who does not understand anything, asking for advice. The Stalin who “fought across the globe.” So even good films do not always contain historical truth. It may be necessary to create a commission, or a committee on historical truth, in accordance with the Constitution.
    1. +2
      12 March 2024 17: 06
      Sergei FonovFilms about war should be about the war, as hard, dirty, bloody as it was.
      I have nothing against.
      But this “stench”... and not “Air”, it is dirt in every way. The meaning of the film is precisely the dirt. To stain the heroic past and at the same time to smear the viewer’s dirt
      1. 0
        12 March 2024 18: 54
        So I'm talking about the same thing. Previously, films had consultants from among front-line soldiers, but now it seems films are made by people who do not know the history of their country.
        1. 0
          12 March 2024 18: 59
          The fact of the matter is that “they” had consultants. Otherwise there would not have been this pseudo-realism, well-simulated military equipment and uniforms.
          There was malice superimposed on the hackwork here. Bad and deceitful director and screenwriter
  58. Aag
    +1
    11 March 2024 23: 22
    To the author - Thank you!!
    For the topic (not new, unfortunately); for analysis (with Normal, - IMHO, - emotions, - without excesses; for Courage (!)
    Thank you. hi
  59. BAI
    0
    11 March 2024 23: 43
    By the way, they are currently filming the film “Litvyak” about Lydia Litvyak. Female fighter, record shot down, died in 1943.
    Like "Panfilov's 28 Men" - the script and the people's money. Therefore, there is not enough money and filming is delayed. Should have done it last year.
    Perhaps the idea of ​​female pilots was stolen from there.
    When the film comes out, we'll find out
    1. BAI
      0
      11 March 2024 23: 54
      She is in life and in the film. Not very similar
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  61. 0
    12 March 2024 00: 18
    The film turned out in my opinion - NO. A set of well-known cliches, but the storyline did not work out. A boring film that exploits our memory of the war. Empathy and complicity did not work out, and when it became clear that the film did not work, they “fed up” advertising on Channel 1 in the desire to drag the viewer into the cinemas in order to recoup the money spent.
  62. +1
    12 March 2024 09: 46
    Unfortunately, almost all WWII movies of the last 15 years suck. And they have no resemblance to the reality of the war that took place. I’m generally silent about the war scenes, because in these films they are simply from the category of fantasy. But you can write dissertations about the logic of the actions of the main characters and the dominance of love-intimate scenes.
    I recently started watching a new film about WWII pilots, “Fighters.” And I turned off this film after 10 minutes. From the very first minutes there is a scene where our pilots are exposed as degenerates. For what?! Moreover, the main characters behave not like experienced pilots, but like disgraceful and stupid people, who knows... Two Soviet fighters fly behind the front line, attack a Nazi column, flying over it at an altitude of 15 meters. Then the satisfied pilots fly on, having a pleasant conversation on the radio among themselves, without even trying to look around. And two German fighters calmly fly up to them from behind and position themselves right on the tail of the two talkers. And they attack. Naturally, the Germans are crooked and don’t hit point blank range. During the air battle, one German was shot down. But our fighter also receives damage. The pilot is injured, it would seem that he has no time for chatter... But no. Both of our pilots again forget that they are at war, and that somewhere nearby there is a second enemy fighter. And calmly chatting about life and friendship, they try to fly to the base. But then, of course, the same German fighter they had forgotten appears with a wildly surprised pilot, who don’t understand why they forgot about him, and attacks them. And our pilots, heroically outraged by the impudence of the enemy, fear for their lives, but one still heroically dies.... Then he turned it off. It's impossible to watch this nonsense. The directors of such films should be sent to the Northern Military District so that they can appreciate the difference between nonsense and war.
  63. +3
    12 March 2024 09: 51
    28 Panfilov's Men is a good film. No stamps. There is no romantic line, bloodthirsty NKVD agent and other nonsense.
    In war as in war: Calmly, without pathos and pseudo-heroism: soldiers came, dug trenches, fought in battle, almost everyone died.
    I also liked “Red Ghost” - our western. There is a little-known film "Private Chaerin" about a Yakut sniper. Also a feature film, more of a western, but without any claim to genius, a simple film about war.
  64. 0
    12 March 2024 09: 55
    On YouTube there is a video by Klim Zhukov “How to spoil the air for 400 million rubles.” Also an opinion.
  65. 0
    12 March 2024 11: 31
    Why are you indignant? For 30 years everything was fine. “The USSR produced only galoshes.” If the film did not care about the USSR, then it was not made. There are still 100500 books I haven’t mentioned. About how in practically the series they did not forget to spit on the USSR and the evil KGB. And everything suited everyone for 30 years. And then suddenly they became SUCH patriots. It's really creepy. And those who 30 crap on the USSR are now in the Duma and other chicken coops concerned with “patriotic education”.
    But what am I talking about? Just as the rooster began to peck in the ass, the results of privatization began to be reviewed: And how one galley crab puffed up. But even he lost his temper.
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    1. +2
      12 March 2024 21: 08
      Learn the materiel before you say anything, be correct, this is not tik-tok, blah blah blah doesn’t roll. Brezhnev was a member of the army's military council, not a political instructor. A war veteran, he was part of the amphibious assault on Malaya Zemlya, where he was seriously wounded, as a result of which he subsequently had problems with speech, which he suffered through pain all his life. By the way, much of what we all still use, what has not yet been stolen and sold by “effective managers,” was created and built under Brezhnev.
  67. +3
    12 March 2024 15: 15
    There is an article for falsifying history, why again the prosecutor’s office has gone blind and deaf, ahh... this is different, but nothing, that this is different, imposed by the irrepressible advertising of Channel 1, the younger generation “watches” and absorbs all this abomination, forming “ruts from Urengoy" and grieving girls for the innocently killed occupiers of the 6th Army at Stalingrad, while not giving a damn about their losses of 40 million, from which queues are then formed in the "upper and lower lars. In our time, this is a crime, direct and deliberate sabotage, which has long become the norm on the 1st state channel, as well as on TV in general, with the complete indifference of the authorities, it seems that with their encouragement.
  68. +2
    12 March 2024 16: 43
    To the front in the trenches, there in the mud they will cure themselves of the desire to smear real people with mud. In our country, any nasty thing created by “engineers of souls,” as they liked to write in the 80s, is justified by the mere “this is how the director sees it.” I would like to ask that this can justify any lie in art. It's a pity that these front-line soldiers are not here. And as my dad told me, a front-line officer, it’s just that in 1946 in Moscow, front-line soldiers threw out one such “director” from the theater for “such a vision” of the war. And the 5th column must be removed, and not only from culture and art.
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  70. +2
    12 March 2024 19: 30
    I read a detailed analysis of this film, called “How Ernst spoiled the air.” Good name!
    But........................... State money has been spent (support from the Ministry of Culture and the Cinema Fund), another "Jewish genius" got the opportunity to amuse his Ego - the output is zero, even worse than zero. The initially powerful advertising campaign was curtailed - apparently, the film did not even “recoup” the money spent, not to mention the profit. How long will this continue????????????????
  71. +4
    12 March 2024 19: 51
    The more aggressive and intrusive the advertising, the shittier the film... In 30 years (30!!!!!) there have only been no more than a dozen (still less, I got carried away) good films about war, the rest is crap. And crap, often sponsored by the state... The command is entirely stupid people, commissars are wreckers, the NKVD is bloodthirsty traitors... And Stalin, of course, is a tyrant. And no other way. The scriptwriters and directors are really stuck on this. The mediocrities are stupid.
  72. +2
    12 March 2024 20: 56
    The administration of the 1st state channel in the paradigm of insanity and cynicism has already sunk to the limit in its wretchedness and anti-Sovietism, which means that it is implied in Russophobia, not caring that the country is again waging a war against Nazism, that the people are already different, the country is different. It seems that if the country’s leadership does not care about the channel and ideology and any personal responsibility of the leaders, then, at least for the purposes of self-preservation and peace of mind, at the legislative level under pain of criminal liability, it is necessary to prohibit Channel 1 from touching on topics of history and politics. Let the few minutes remaining from advertising be filled with all sorts of rubbish, as usual, otherwise it’s no longer funny and looks very much like sabotage and working for the enemy.
  73. -1
    12 March 2024 23: 04
    Everything is very interesting, but cinema is one thing, and documentary film is another. Unfortunately, history is no longer enough to attract people to the cinema, women are also spectators and therefore we need to delight them with heroines who fly airplanes, drive carriages and so on. Then a love interlude is necessary, as well as the protagonist's past tragedy. It's a business, and if you invest money in a film, you expect to make money. request
  74. +2
    13 March 2024 00: 30
    Previously, when front-line soldiers were filmed and watched in films, and memories of the war stirred the soul, LIES about those events could not appear on the screens! Now there are almost no witnesses left, and after the collapse of the USSR and the streams of mud poured out on those times, there will be those who will not see blunders, lies, sabotage and betrayal in modern films “about war”. And for the “film industry”, this is simply an opportunity to use budget money. It’s disgusting, because if you only get a little acquainted with the realities and destinies of those years, there would be enough heroes, destinies, plots and drama for hundreds of truthful and entertaining films. And they film fabulous crap... Disgusting.
  75. 0
    13 March 2024 08: 54
    Tell me, no one watched 321st, Siberian???
    1. 0
      13 March 2024 08: 57
      The film seemed to be praised. Yes, I watched the excerpt, it’s very worthy!
    2. 0
      13 March 2024 15: 55
      In my opinion, there were BIG problems with the release of this film!!! They transferred some rights to the Americans for something and that’s all.... Apparently there won’t be a movie, but the working excerpts were really worthy!!!!
  76. +2
    13 March 2024 15: 51
    The President constantly throws mud at the USSR without any reason, but why shouldn’t artists do this?
  77. 0
    13 March 2024 19: 52
    Quote: ermak124.0
    The more aggressive and intrusive the advertising, the shittier the film... .

    Remember the advertising campaign for the movie "Righteous"? Wildly annoying! From every iron we were called to watch this brilliant film.
    I won’t say anything about the film - I didn’t watch it, but it failed at the box office and didn’t recoup its budget, despite all the efforts.
    1. +1
      17 March 2024 14: 40
      Quote: Roman Efremov

      Remember the advertising campaign for the movie "Righteous"? Wildly annoying! From every iron we were called to watch this brilliant film.
      I won’t say anything about the film - I didn’t watch it, but it failed at the box office and didn’t recoup its budget, despite all the efforts.

      So not a single Russian film has paid for itself. Except perhaps Cheburashka, The Challenge, Black Lightning. That is, science fiction pays off even more or less. People prefer to watch Western films
  78. +3
    14 March 2024 13: 34
    In Soviet times, military consultants from the past WWII were present in all war films. And now they make films as the director sees it: simpler, more spectacular, more expensive, computer-generated. What else do you want?
  79. +1
    14 March 2024 19: 30
    Artificial intelligence is sweeping the planet. And takes the place of the human mind. Nature abhors a vacuum.
  80. +2
    15 March 2024 04: 59
    There is only one answer: don’t look! And where is the SOVIET CENSORSHIP?
  81. +2
    16 March 2024 13: 23
    A huge number of “movie crafts” about the Second World War, which had nothing to do with real events, were released in cinemas during the Soviet era. But now it is off scale. Although today the archives were opened and there is more than enough real material. I don’t want to talk about the film T34, especially about the end of the film, especially about the hero’s outburst of mercy towards the “Colonel” (Standartenführer) of the WAFFEN SS (criminal organization), before going to the “friendly” Czech Republic. But at that time, it was not the Czech Republic that was located there, but the Sudetenland of Germany. Inhabited by a Germanic population loyal to the Nazis. With all the consequences. I don’t even want to talk about the film “Devyatayev”. Mikhail Petrovich Devyataev himself is a man with a very interesting biography. I had the opportunity to communicate with him personally in January 1995. It was necessary to make a very interesting patriotic film about him. And they filmed Vlasov’s propaganda about how good it is to be a traitor (if you’re lucky).
    1. 0
      17 March 2024 15: 55
      I am interested in the history of the war, but true history. I read a lot about female pilots. About the pilots of night light bombers, whose work was dangerous and many did not return from their missions. About the pilots of the PE-2 women's bomber regiment, whom many have never even heard of. It would be nice to make a film about them. And in general, war (and war now) is a difficult, deadly matter. I don’t know how to film this, how to make money from this.
      1. +1
        20 March 2024 20: 39
        It’s a sin to make money on the topic of history. But modern conocrocodiles (kinoskots) cannot do anything other than receive banknotes and spend the budget. How Artists are impotent. Like historians are liars. How citizens of Russia are traitors to the Motherland.
  82. 0
    17 March 2024 14: 30
    Smoking advertising? Strange, on TV now they shyly blur cigarettes in the frame
  83. 0
    20 March 2024 08: 15
    After the best (in my opinion) film “In War as in War”, comparison with wretched crafts like “T-34”, “Devyatayev” or this “creation” evokes nothing but anger! There is nothing to evaluate, I agree with the author of the article - this is material for the work of the investigative committee and the prosecutor's office!
  84. 0
    20 March 2024 20: 34
    It’s impossible to watch all the modern movie crap on the theme of the Great Patriotic War. There is no one to flog modern “film historians”, but they need to! So it is necessary to retreat on their backs so that the desire to develop budgets will disappear forever.