The Times: France delivers SCALP cruise missiles to Ukraine using German Audi Q7s

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The Times: France delivers SCALP cruise missiles to Ukraine using German Audi Q7s

The British use Ridgeback armored vehicles to deliver Storm Shadow cruise missiles to Ukraine, and the French use Audi Q7 vehicles for their Scalp missiles. This conclusion was reached by the British edition of the Times, analyzing a leaked conversation between high-ranking German military officials.

According to the newspaper, from a conversation between German officers it follows that the French use civilian Q7 vehicles to deliver their cruise missiles to Ukraine, and the British use Cougar Ridgback armored cars. At the same time, there are concerns that Russian intelligence may use this information to track the supply of cruise missiles to Kyiv.



However, not everything is as clear as the British Times interprets this conversation. Firstly, the Scalp cruise missile cannot be placed in the Audi Q7. Secondly, France supplied Ukraine with several dozen missiles, from where it can obtain enough German crossovers to transfer them. There is an obvious translation error here.

As the Telegraph writes, the original text of the conversation reads like this:

I know how the British do it. They always transport them in Ridgback armored vehicles. They have several people on site. The French don't do that. They supply Q7 with Scalp missiles to Ukraine

- says German Air Force commander Gerhartz in a leaked conversation.

A group of experts suggested that this could not be an Audi Q7, but there is no other vehicle with this index. In addition, according to the rules of the German language, we should have a verb in place of Q7. Experts suggested that Q7 is a distorted German kursieren, with the substitution of this verb everything falls into place:

I know how the British do it. They always transport them in Ridgeback armored vehicles. They have several people on site. The French don't do that. They ply EU-Ukraine for loading Scalp
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  1. +1
    3 March 2024 21: 54
    They are dividing the Ukhria market. Without joining the EU. Whoever gave more missiles got more goodies from the sale of the former USSR
    1. +3
      3 March 2024 22: 26
      Quote: antivirus
      Dividing the Ukhria market

      Hardly! Rather, they are fighting in agony, hoping to harm the Russian Federation as much as possible. The "anti-Russia" project is collapsing against their sticky hopes. Supplies and funding have dwindled. Now they want to hit big, but somehow so that they don’t get a response.
      The female Great Danes are trying to somehow turn the situation around.
      1. +2
        3 March 2024 22: 36
        Ukraine can easily be torn apart by Western “allies” for credit debts. Easily. How post-war Germany was divided into spheres of influence/occupation after WWII, but how Hitler was applauded in Europe before WWII, they shared his views, just like Zelensky. But victory has many fathers, defeat always an orphan. Now the topic of sending troops to Ukraine has come up because everyone understood the outcome of the campaign and that this outcome is close and we need to stake out a fatter piece for ourselves, otherwise no one will give the loans.
        1. -1
          3 March 2024 22: 51
          So Ukraine is being bullied if you are not too lazy, come and get it cheaper.
        2. 0
          4 March 2024 17: 45
          Quote from: neworange88
          Ukraine can easily be torn apart by Western “allies” for credit debts. Easily.

          After the Victory, all their contracts will be covered by the device. I don’t think anyone would dare to move seriously, risking their teeth or even their entire jaw. In the end, in order to maintain the face, you can leave the Lviv region, no more! with its capital in Lvov, call it the legal successor of Ukraine and let them demand this stub. And to hint to the Poles not to rock their boots...
      2. +8
        3 March 2024 23: 20
        Where do you see the agony? The 3rd year of hostilities began.
        1. -3
          3 March 2024 23: 53
          Quote: Kronos
          Where do you see the agony? The 3rd year of hostilities began.

          If it was with the outskirts, then fine, but otherwise things went with the “hegemon”, here it’s cooler, here you can fight for 5 years if it’s for a just cause...
          1. +11
            4 March 2024 04: 18
            If it was with the outskirts, then fine, but otherwise things went with the “hegemon”, here it’s cooler, here you can fight for 5 years if it’s for a just cause...

            Stop making these excuses for a multi-stepper! We are at war with Ukraine, which is helped by the West, and we are helped by China, Iran and the DPRK.
            But we are at war ONLY with Ukraine, and the North Military District has turned into a bloody meat grinder due to betrayals, betrayals and sabotage by the country’s leadership and the army. Planning for SVO is sabotage and betrayal. A gesture of Goodwill is a betrayal. The lack of mobilization before the start of the Northern Military District, which led to the defeat near Kharkov, called Regrouping, is betrayal and sabotage. The lack of modern communications in the army, despite the fact that there are all possibilities, is betrayal, sabotage, sabotage and treason. The absence of staffed UAV and anti-UAV units in each combat unit on the eve of the Northern Military District and for 2 years while it is underway is betrayal, sabotage and treason. The continuous formation of military personnel for two years, as a result of which thousands of soldiers died, is betrayal and treason.
            It is and only because of these crimes, which have names and surnames, and ONLY because these same criminals are still leading the country and the army after two years of bloody Northeast Military District victory, that is, the capture of Odessa, Kiev and access to the Polish border is unrealistic for us and not at all the wishes of the NATO countries.
            For NATO countries, we have the remnants of the Soviet nuclear missile system, which Gorbachev, Yeltsin and the current guarantor did not have time to finish off, and if our country was ruled by someone at least Erdogan’s level, no one would have decided to supply the Ukrainian Armed Forces with even infantry fighting vehicles, not to mention missiles
            1. -1
              4 March 2024 12: 55
              I read your lines and really want to vote for you. Put a general in charge of the troops with a machine gun at the ready and a vigorous battalion in his pocket.... You are still that hysterical warrior.... It’s good that VVP DOESN’T SICK WITH HYSTERIA...
              1. 0
                5 March 2024 09: 13
                What an amazing story!
        2. 0
          4 March 2024 17: 48
          Quote: Kronos
          Where do you see the agony? The 3rd year of hostilities began.

          If we had fought only with Ukraine alone, we would have washed the floors for the deceased long ago, but here there is a whole team of resuscitators, with orderlies...
      3. +7
        3 March 2024 23: 53
        Quote: Anarchist
        Rather, they are fighting in agony, hoping to harm the Russian Federation as much as possible. The "anti-Russia" project is being phased out

        Where is he going? The Slavs are blowing each other’s brains out with all their might, and there’s no end in sight. So what's going on there?
      4. 0
        4 March 2024 00: 00
        Exactly! Now, if we continue the war against Russia, we will have to lay down our own heads!
    2. +1
      4 March 2024 00: 49
      antivirus
      Yesterday, 21: 54
      They are dividing the Ukhria market. Without joining the EU. Whoever gave more missiles got more goodies from the sale of the former USSR
      Get excited - check out the news! I have to say: the whole point is that we are all on the threshold
      a grandiose trick, it’s too early to say, I’m afraid I’ll jinx it. In short, both truth and falsehood are merging into the mass media in order to completely knock the false-under-West out of its stable position, and each of its new steps will be, as in zugzwang, from the choice only worse and even worse!
      We celebrated the second anniversary of the Russian Armed Forces in the Northern Military District, the enemy is depleting its last reserves, although terrorism within our country with the help of the false West will only increase!
      Taking into account the above and much that has not been said, I am sure that the Supreme Commander in the near future
      in the long term - after legally won elections in the country, he will set his own conditions for the false under-West, which the latter will not be able not to accept, just as the whole world saw the shoe of a journalist flying over the ear of the contemptible Bush Jr. in 2008, scurrying out of Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Africa are coming!
      And we won’t reveal our cards ahead of time! Your fragile shoulders will crack under the load.
      Only the Russians themselves can fight the Russians!
      1. +1
        4 March 2024 08: 41
        I am sure that the Supreme Commander in the near future - after legally won elections in the country - will set his own conditions for the false West

        He has already set, but no one cares about the wishes of the soft-bodied polytimpotent multi-mover, no one is paying attention to his empty balabolism. And you continue to believe in miracles and a good king.
    3. +1
      4 March 2024 05: 40
      Quote: antivirus
      Whoever gave more missiles got more goodies from the sale of the former USSR

      Occupy the best rooms in a burning house?
      At a minimum, you need to put it out first and see what’s left of it. Because plundering a country to the ground is not like removing a stack of firewood. It takes some time. But the West does not have it in such quantities. The Americans have already realized that these expenses (at least in the “rob” part for sure) can already be written off as losses. That’s why they are trying to dump all of Ukraine’s food on Europe.

      No matter where, when and how this war ends, it has already become clear to the Americans that direct income (robbery) cannot return the money invested. Wearing Russia down, weakening it, inciting internal political quarrels - yes. But this does not give a quick return on the invested funds and the result is also not calculated on the calculator.

      And even if the Europeans understand everything, they have nowhere to go. They only follow orders.
      Therefore, of course, they can “run in a European way.” But they just don’t have much to share. If the impossible happens and they are able to “win”, America will take everything. Our Victory - and all their “sections of the pie” become just a stupid joke.
      So the number of missiles here does not affect the size of the piece, but the attitude of the Owner. Look - he will praise...
  2. +6
    3 March 2024 22: 01
    These experts are absolutely cuckoo, how can you cram this five-meter canoe into the Audi Q7? Even 5100, without capping. Or is this truck-sized crossover? Do they even imagine this Audi?
    1. +5
      3 March 2024 22: 07
      Quote from: lukash66
      How can you stuff this five-meter canoe into an Audi Q7?

      They meander, the tracks get confused! Yes
      1. YOU
        +3
        3 March 2024 22: 18
        I think so, what if the Russians start making all the cars that fit the given dimensions, dimensions, similar ones in one way or another, and they will quickly show a bombed-out family with children, for this purpose. Nothing is sacred to these scum.
    2. +6
      3 March 2024 22: 11
      Scotch and roof rack, as an option, the French)
      1. +3
        3 March 2024 22: 22
        They stole the idea from ours).
        _________________________
        1. 0
          4 March 2024 10: 04
          There is a more modern modification.
    3. 0
      3 March 2024 22: 24
      Quote from: lukash66
      These experts are absolutely cuckoo......Can they even imagine this Audi?

      Something like this.
    4. +1
      3 March 2024 22: 52
      "Missionsplanung... die Engländer machen das komplett im Reach Back (Ridgeback)....
      die haben Leute vor Ort... die Franzosen nicht, ...die QCen -(machen Quality Control) beim Beladen des Scalp
    5. +2
      3 March 2024 23: 01
      “Once again our partners deceived us” (c) You Know Who.

      People are trying, listening to the negotiations, and probably all Ku7s have already been targeted with ammunition that has no analogues...

      And then someone starts calling to try on Storm Shadow and Ku7 - well, it’s not good to break it off like that!
      And perhaps - what if they still transport it? For example, well, in parts... or a rocket sticks out of the trunk with a flag, like an oversized load...
      You can expect all sorts of treachery from your “partners”!

      By the way, it’s better to avoid Q7 for a week.
  3. 0
    3 March 2024 22: 03
    The Ukrainian front is collapsing, only the spring thaw can temporarily stop our offensive, but the outcome is obvious - Ukraine has lost
    1. +2
      3 March 2024 22: 54
      Quote: Ivar Ravi
      spring thaw may temporarily stop our advance

      The fact is that with a positional confrontation, which is what it is, mud has nothing to do with it at all. The number of guns and the supply of shells solve any problems, this has been the case since the First World War.
    2. +9
      3 March 2024 23: 21
      Where did you see the collapse? Fights for villages have been going on for weeks.
    3. +5
      3 March 2024 23: 59
      Quote: Ivar Ravi
      The Ukrainian front is collapsing, only the spring thaw can temporarily stop our advance,

      Soon the elections will be held and the front will settle down.
  4. +1
    3 March 2024 22: 17
    Ahh, I missed the main thing, again British scientists and their mouthpiece, the Times. Then yes, they drive it to the Audi, don’t go to grandma’s.))
  5. 0
    3 March 2024 22: 23
    What’s stopping you from just bringing a couple of dozen in a truck at once?
  6. -1
    3 March 2024 22: 32
    Take a look at the headlines on the all-news Jewish channel LCI, which focuses exclusively on the war in Ukraine: "While the Putin regime's repression has intensified sharply since the start of the war in Ukraine, few opposition figures are still at liberty in Russia. Many have to choose between exile or prison." This kind of information is hammered home 24 hours a day, you can't fight it, even if many people no longer believe their lies.
    Consider the headlines of the 24-hour Jewish news channel LCI, which focuses exclusively on the war in Ukraine: "Although the Putin regime's repression has clearly intensified since the start of the war in Ukraine, few opposition figures remain free in Russia. Many are forced to choose between exile and prison." . Such information is hammered into consciousness XNUMX hours a day, so it is impossible to fight it, even if many people no longer believe in this lie.
    1. +2
      3 March 2024 23: 08
      LCi si je zappe sur cette chaîne immédiatement je...vomis ! Le même symptôme que lorsque je vois Macron.
      C'est clairement une chaîne de propagande Qui en plus insulte nos capacités intellectuelles. N'hésitant pas à se contredire, à changer les faits, mettant en avant ses "spécialistes, comme ce Thytelman, celui qui affirmait: "les Russes n'auront plus de missiles à mi Mars...2022" !! D'ailleurs un de leurs "specialiste" un ex général à dit : il faut inonder les médias de fausses nouvelles,"...C'est ce que tu fait déjà !!'général '!!
      Si vous avez la curiosité de regarder le parcours et le profil par exemple de Thytelman...vous comprendrez assez vite ce qu'il est réellement...
  7. +4
    3 March 2024 23: 15
    I suggest the prankers (Vovan and Lexus) call back and specify type of transport, otherwise something doesn’t fit together...
  8. 0
    3 March 2024 23: 15
    SCALP

    and if they reach the Urals???? and there will be a massive blow, what will the Russian Federation do???????? and there will be nothing left of France????? or will there be nothing for France?????????????
  9. +8
    3 March 2024 23: 19
    German is my native language and I listened to the excerpt.

    It was not so much about the physical delivery of cruise missiles, but about the difficulties of target programming and obtaining the necessary intelligence data.

    Programming a flight path—bypassing radar or flying underneath it using low-flying capabilities—is an extremely complex task that requires extensive preparation. In the short and medium term, Ukrainians themselves will not be able to do this.

    The idea arose to do the programming in Germany and transfer it to Ukraine via a secure data channel. However, this was rejected because participation would be "too direct". Then the idea arose to send the data to Poland, and from there transport it by car to Ukraine - so it could very well be an Audi Q7.

    In the end, the decision was made to further wash their hands of the innocence, provide operational and tactical support - but hand over the production data file to the production company - and enlist the support of the French and British armed forces on the ground in Ukraine.

    The entire conversation was devoted to preparing a presentation for politicians, so that “Taurus” will be ready to work as soon as the “signal” comes from there.

    I hope the translation is readable (Yandex)
    1. 0
      4 March 2024 07: 18
      I hope the translation is readable (Yandex)

      Thank you, we read and everything fell into place. This means that the flight mission is formed by scanning the operation of our radars (everyone has a terrain map in 2-GIS). A new task for our electronic warfare service!
  10. 0
    3 March 2024 23: 20
    Now they themselves will shoot several civilian Q7s,
    and the blame will be placed on the Russians.
  11. 0
    3 March 2024 23: 24
    I know how the British do it. They always transport them in Ridgback armored vehicles. They have several people on site. The French don't do that. They supply Q7 with Scalp missiles to Ukraine

    - says German Air Force commander Gerhartz in a leaked conversation.
    German crypto. The word “transported” means sending “there” or “to”, “transported” Audi Q7 cars is understood as the name of the implied military product because Audi is not BMW or Mercedes-Benz, “they” have their own “showdowns” (black and white) . And Audi, according to its icon, means a chain, not a sphere in the generally accepted sense. However, its own philosophy, according to the European mentality, so to speak request
  12. 0
    3 March 2024 23: 35
    The Germans allegedly had secret conversations and they were leaked.
    Those who intercepted the conversation cannot really explain its essence.
    The author in Q7 saw the distorted German kursieren and everything became as it should and worked out:

    The French don't do that. They ply EU-Ukraine for loading Scalp
  13. +2
    3 March 2024 23: 43
    France's extended interest in exacerbation is incomprehensible to me. I understand the interest of the World Bank, Polyakov, in principle I would understand the interest of the Germans - but such an insane initiative of the French, with missiles and statements, is completely unclear to me. What is this, revenge for Africa?
    France is far from Ukraine; in principle, it did not have such broad interests in Ukraine as the Germans or Poles. Historically, we have had better relations with the French elites than with the German ones, and even more so with the British ones. France itself is on a much longer leash from the United States than the Germans or the World Bank - what is its benefit from the aggravation? Declare yourself as the flagship of the EU, playing on the greater passivity of the German elites?
    1. +1
      4 March 2024 00: 57
      Their elite has become a puppet of the US rulers. All of Europe is a puppet. “They” can put pressure on any politician. No politician in Europe can protect himself. Their own special services will not help them either. They are also puppets. Money, threats, liquidation.
    2. +3
      4 March 2024 02: 19
      You have to understand that France is completely enjuivée jewished. The French political and media elites are subject to the Zionist, Judeo-Masonic lobby. Most of these elites are even directly Jewish. The media belongs to the Jews. Academia, healthcare and humanitarian associations are controlled by Jews. They no longer hide behind a goy, they control them directly. They'll say it's anti-Semitic rhetoric, but it's factual. I heard that Macron had a rabbi grandparent. The last 2 prime ministers are Jewish and homosexual at the same time.
      You must understand that France is completely overrun by Jewry. The French political and media elite are subordinate to the Zionist, Judeo-Masonic lobby. Most of the representatives of this elite are even directly Jewish. The media is owned by Jews. The academy, health care and humanities associations are controlled by Jews. They don’t even hide behind the goyim, they control them directly. They will say that this is anti-Semitic rhetoric, but these are facts. I heard that Macron's grandparents were rabbis. The last two prime ministers are both Jewish and homosexual.
      1. 0
        4 March 2024 15: 40
        Remarquez en passant que le seul candidat à la présidence en France qui avait martelé à de nombreuses reprises qu'il fallait que l'Europe se rapproche et coopère avec la Russie est ...Juif un certain Zemmour Éric
        1. +1
          4 March 2024 15: 44
          Un juif de plus pour asservir la France.
  14. 0
    4 March 2024 00: 15
    Some kind of nonsense, of course. Storm length ~510cm, Q7 length 508cm. Instead of a roof rack there is a rocket. wassat disguise level 80, guesses in the best traditions of British scientists))
  15. 0
    4 March 2024 00: 46
    Firstly, the Scalp cruise missile cannot be placed in the Audi Q7.

    Likewise, a cruise missile won’t fit in the Ridgeback either; it’s a small armored car
  16. +1
    4 March 2024 03: 50
    How were they able to fit this idiot into a regular car?
  17. +1
    4 March 2024 06: 31
    Fucking T9 and all the editors combined. From the derivatives of the word “lucky” the letter “z” has completely disappeared. And everywhere on the Internet ((
  18. -1
    4 March 2024 06: 51
    Quote: ramzay21
    If it was with the outskirts, then fine, but otherwise things went with the “hegemon”, here it’s cooler, here you can fight for 5 years if it’s for a just cause...

    Stop making these excuses for a multi-stepper! We are at war with Ukraine, which is helped by the West, and we are helped by China, Iran and the DPRK.
    But we are at war ONLY with Ukraine, and the North Military District has turned into a bloody meat grinder due to betrayals, betrayals and sabotage by the country’s leadership and the army. Planning for SVO is sabotage and betrayal. A gesture of Goodwill is a betrayal. The lack of mobilization before the start of the Northern Military District, which led to the defeat near Kharkov, called Regrouping, is betrayal and sabotage. The lack of modern communications in the army, despite the fact that there are all possibilities, is betrayal, sabotage, sabotage and treason. The absence of staffed UAV and anti-UAV units in each combat unit on the eve of the Northern Military District and for 2 years while it is underway is betrayal, sabotage and treason. The continuous formation of military personnel for two years, as a result of which thousands of soldiers died, is betrayal and treason.
    It is and only because of these crimes, which have names and surnames, and ONLY because these same criminals are still leading the country and the army after two years of bloody Northeast Military District victory, that is, the capture of Odessa, Kiev and access to the Polish border is unrealistic for us and not at all the wishes of the NATO countries.
    For NATO countries, we have the remnants of the Soviet nuclear missile system, which Gorbachev, Yeltsin and the current guarantor did not have time to finish off, and if our country was ruled by someone at least Erdogan’s level, no one would have decided to supply the Ukrainian Armed Forces with even infantry fighting vehicles, not to mention missiles


    To write loudly about this now, and not a year and a half ago, is also not patriotism, although it may not be betrayal.
  19. 0
    4 March 2024 09: 17
    Quote from: lukash66
    These experts are absolutely cuckoo, how can you cram this five-meter canoe into the Audi Q7? Even 5100, without capping. Or is this truck-sized crossover? Do they even imagine this Audi?

    Of course they do....
  20. 0
    4 March 2024 21: 16
    I am surprised at the “greed” of some domestic media for all sorts of nonsense regarding “writing first”, without thinking for a second that the information may be false, incorrectly translated into Russian and, simply, a banal fake. If anyone has seen the Audi Q7 car and imagines the overall dimensions of the Scalp cruise missile, they will understand that domestic journalists (some) were “conned” like “suckers” at a beer stall....
  21. 0
    April 27 2024 15: 22
    L audi Q7 présentée sur LCI est un modèle 2023. Sauf que l immatriculation présentée AX.... date d'une vingtaine d'année Nous en sommes a GW......