What Russia should think about when looking at European agrarian riots

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What Russia should think about when looking at European agrarian riots


Internal political games


The end of the calendar winter did not in any way affect the protest activity of farmers in Europe, although European farmers (at least those involved in grain) should not go on strike, but should prepare with all their might for the sowing season.



Nevertheless, representatives of the European agricultural sector, in righteous anger, not only waste technical resources, but also transfer valuable organic fertilizers to government agencies. It is clear that this is sarcasm, but it is also clear that it is difficult to come up with a better picture for the information agenda in terms of illustrating the thesis about a “fading Europe”.

There is no doubt that the protests are part of the internal political struggle. For example, in Poland this is a struggle at the regional level between the winning political force (Civic Platform) and the losing one (Law and Justice) main parties. This is also a very real opportunity to extract payments due for previous years from Brussels.

Ukrainian goods actually have a significant impact on the pockets of some European agricultural producers. However, not only for Eastern Europe is this a means of maintaining subsidies, but also for EU pillars such as France.

For E. Macron, these protests are not only harmful, but in some ways also useful. Taxes and subsidies, although not so directly related to the topic of Ukrainian products, are also a protest factor in Spain, Greece and Germany. That is, in the agrarian revolt, it turns out, there are not so few interested parties even in the ruling elites of the EU, in the part that wants to preserve the old social, or rather, socio-economic balance.

However, there are some signs that such protests are the result of more complex and deeper problems. Taxes and subsidies, Ukrainian dumping and Polish party struggle are significant, but still top reasons. And there are underlying reasons and prerequisites.

It is worth understanding them, since in the near future they may well affect us ourselves. It’s not just that some of the elites decided to fight for what was called “socio-economic balance” in the previous paragraph. This means that the balance is upset, therefore there are prerequisites for this and there are parties, interested and uninterested.

And you will have to understand this, since these processes affect not only European agribusiness or politicians associated with this - they directly affect the Russian market, its potential and prospects.

From the summer of 2022 to the summer of 2023, one of the most discussed topics was the so-called. “Black Sea Grain Initiative” (“grain deal”) and related topics of grain shortages in the poorest countries and the impending “world famine”.

It all looked scary because news agencies published price reports, but they really did not inspire optimism in 2022, especially since Russia and Ukraine, with their 30% share in world trade in goods such as wheat, are conducting active military operations right on logistics routes.

However, even not the most attentive observers noted oddities in the flows of goods, which ultimately went anywhere but to the starving and needy regions.

Using the same wheat as an example, it will be convenient to look at the problem as a whole; after all, wheat is one of the main exchange-traded agricultural products.

According to the criterion of excess/deficiency, the situation with it was and remains very peculiar. For example, world production of this basic product was 2021 million tons in 756, 2022 million tons in 772, and 2023 million tons in 808. Eighty-three producing countries themselves consumed 469 million tons and formed a conditionally free balance of 339 million tons.

It can be called conditionally free because it is necessary to inevitably subtract from it the volumes that go to reserve funds and for reproduction - about 50 million tons per year. These volumes change periodically, but in general, a decrease in one economic-geographical sector is compensated for in another.

Thus, China increased the reserve to the volume of 1,5 years of consumption, and the United States and the EU consistently reduced it. The remaining part can already be traded on international markets, again, adjusted for the fact that operators hold on average up to 20% of the volume as a carryover balance.

The adjustments do not end there, since it is necessary to take into account losses in storage - up to 2% and losses during transportation - 1,5–2,0%. These are minimum values ​​for the market, but in general they are impressive - up to 10 million tons are lost annually, drowned, scattered on the road, eaten by mice, left in trucks, bunkers, etc. This is a little short in volume to meet the needs of such a country , such as Brazil.

Thus, the physical volume of wheat for supply on international markets is 180 million tons, 192 million tons and 221 million tons for the indicated years. This is precisely the physical volume, and not the turnover on the financial market, directly or indirectly related to it.

All that remains is to look at the need in the world that needs to be met with this volume, and what remains to be met is... 50 million tons.

Question: where does everything else go?

Where does the grain go?


For example, in 2022 – as much as 142 million tons of wheat. As we remember, entire continents are starving.

By the way, how exactly do they starve?

Here we look at the Middle East: consumption – 50 million tons, production – 37 million tons, deficit – 13 million tons. Long-suffering Africa: consumption - 64 million tons, production - 27 million tons, deficit - 37 million tons. This is the largest regional deficit, but it is completely painlessly nominally covered by production surpluses.

At current prices, the entire need for wheat throughout starving Africa is $8 billion. This is approximately one of the largest funds within the UN. But we are talking about a general deficit across the continent; Nigeria, for example, is a solvent country, South Africa and Egypt too. Actually, Egypt itself buys about 12 million tons, with a deficit of 5,4 million tons. Some goes into reserves, and the rest is resold.

In principle, even if we imagine that Africa consumes much less than we would like (and this is actually the case), then in this case it is possible to cover what we want without apocalyptic problems, even if we form an annual reserve in these countries and write it off as losses double standard

In other words, in reality there is no commodity shortage in the world for this position at all.

Now let’s take Europe, where we started the material, wheat consumption – 54 million tons, production – 155 million tons. After all the adjustments we get a commodity surplus. This is almost an annual surplus.

In 2022, the EU experienced a shortage of crops due to drought - 11 million tons of grains were missing (for all types). Was this covered by commodity surpluses of previous years? No, the falling volumes were covered by the “grain deal,” the problems with which became synonymous with the “hunger apocalypse” in the Western media.

But as soon as the ship carrying the EU cargo that covered this volume left the Ukrainian pier, the excitement around the “grain deal” dropped sharply. Moreover, now on the border of the EU and Ukraine, grain is generally dumped on the road by “protesting” Europeans. It just spills out into ditches, onto railroad tracks, it rots in bodies with cut awnings, etc.

And the question remains - where are the annual commodity surpluses?

Again, we note that there are always situational market adjustments. For example, Canada collected little - it dropped by 2022 million tons in 12, China significantly increased its reserves, but Russia and Australia made up for the volume. In 2023, Ukraine fell, but Canada recovered. Fluctuations occur, this is the market, but over the period they traditionally compensate each other.

The casket opens simply - a surplus of goods annually settles in warehouses around the world. The EU here only serves as a kind of temporary storage facility, but we have remnants in Russia, the USA and Canada. Slowly, over the course of a year, they spread throughout the world, where they also accumulate, creating local ups and downs in prices.

Of course, excess volumes do not always settle in the form of actual residues of the base product. They flow into the secondary market and settle there in the form of additional volumes of alcohol, flour, go to the chemical industry, feed, etc. But this does not stop them being surpluses; they simply begin to destabilize the situation in the secondary markets.

At the same time, since our world system is still capitalist, these surpluses do not reach the markets of Africa or Yemen with weak solvency - there is simply no one to finance them.

It is clear that agriculture is also trying to diversify production by replacing crops. Grains are replaced, for example, by rapeseed, where possible - by legumes and sunflowers, etc. But, firstly, such use of soil has its own natural limitations, and secondly, exactly similar shifts occur in the markets in which the substitution is taking place .

This is just a single example of one, albeit basic, product. And there are complete analogues in other segments. The meat industry, which is already associated with this market, demonstrates excess capacity of no less scale.

The agricultural market is one of the most inelastic, if we use liberal terminology. Covid-19 has slowed down economic activity. The demand for oil and gas products has decreased. But if here, albeit with problems, it is possible to reduce production, put new projects on pause, or mothball something, then in agricultural production, which in the world is represented by many small and medium-sized farms, such a trick will not work. You can’t just send a farmer to work after mothballing a plant in one area and then retrain to work at a plant in another. At the same time, it is impossible not to cultivate the land that is working.

Who in the world has the largest percentage of workers, if you look at those employed in agriculture, and at the same time has a significant surplus of goods?

And this is the same European Union - the favorite object of our domestic criticism. We have a perception of the EU as a kind of “industrialization zone,” but depending on country to country, the share of people employed in the agricultural and primary food sector there is 6–9% of the working population. And these are mostly small farms. Thus, the average number of employees per agricultural enterprise in striking France is 2,1 people.

The overproduction of food in the world, as we see, is significant. In Europe it generally goes off scale. The Guardian calculated that 148 billion euros worth of products are sent to landfill every year. This is 28–30% of the total volume.

In the USA, the intensification and concentration of agriculture is higher, there are half as many people employed there as in the EU, therefore, with similar overproduction, it does not have such a critical impact on the socio-economic sphere as in the EU. Not critical yet.

Such overproduction makes the sector unprofitable, but losses are covered from the European budget with grants and subsidies. Otherwise, workers and owners, after all payments, risk receiving for their labor income comparable to the minimum wage. Industry subsidies reach 60% and above.

What can be done about it?


Export more. However, now exports are reducing subsidies, and overproduction is characteristic of the world as a whole. There are no good export prices for grain, meat, oil, unless it is a completely niche product.

The European Commission, of course, is trying to do something here, regulating the length of the tail of cows and the length of cucumbers, the diameter of pork snouts and tomatoes. Home cultivation of crops and so on are prohibited. But the level of production is such that in the EU, for example, 65% of farms should simply be closed.

There is no point in rejoicing over European problems with their “dung riots”. If only because there is a global crisis of overproduction, and even five years ago there were already current discussions about whether Russia should devote so much effort and resources to capturing the basic grain markets. For the same wheat, our excess of production over domestic needs is not the highest (80%), while in Canada or Australia it is still 90%. But the accumulation of surpluses cannot but have an effect - by 2023 we received one of the lowest world prices.

The fact that traders are trying to raise prices using stories about “world hunger” is understandable. On the one hand, they slow down demand, on the other, they receive additional profitability. But these measures are temporary, since the problem is not private.

The agricultural industry is one of the basic ones, therefore, it has a pronounced cumulative effect - many related segments are tied to it, mechanical engineering and spare parts, repair and service enterprises, fuel consumption, organic chemistry and others. It’s just that the social structure in the EU is such that the whip of the crisis of overproduction in this basic industry hits Europe first. But other countries are not in a better position either. Even if the EU cuts production by 50%, the problem will not go away.

This year the Russian market will receive work in conditions of critically low prices, next year this will already become a rather serious problem, since it will be necessary to either diversify the work, or producers will compensate for the lost income in the domestic market. Like with gasoline and diesel fuel, it’s just much more difficult to set up.

How did the world come to live like this?


And he got to it precisely because for about thirty years they stopped thinking about such things as “equilibrium value.” Why think about it if it is a rudiment of a retrograde approach. And in general, some people will directly say that equilibrium value is an abstraction that has nothing to do with real life. It turns out that it has, because although it is indeed impossible to achieve equilibrium value, this does not mean that one should not strive for this. And just the desire for this can help solve many problems and contradictions.

Capitalization in basic industries decreased in relation to innovative industries almost every year. How did the affected industries compensate for this? Usually by increasing output. If on the oil market or the steel market concentration still made it possible to conduct cartel negotiations or their analogues (like OPEC+), then on the agricultural market this simply led to an increase in the volume, where, as we see in the example of Europe (although Russia too), no parameters profitability and capitalization are not growing.

As a result, over the next ten years we risk a setback in basic industries, when the only option would be to increase concentration and reduce output to increase prices and equalize capitalization with other industries.

We will see an even greater concentration of productive forces in the hands of a few structures: in the agricultural sector, in chemistry, in hydrocarbons, and in steel. Even the weakest companies will be absorbed and merged.

Will this bring a wave of social problems?


Undoubtedly, it will just be faster for some, slower for others.

At the same time, if we return to the topic of grain and hunger, then there will not be fewer hungry people in Yemen and Africa - there will be more of them, and prices for basic products will rise everywhere.

And it would be nice to see a serious discussion on this topic somewhere in the Russian expert segment, because industry development in our country is always delayed, which means diversification will be delayed, but we should prepare for it in advance.
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  1. +1
    4 March 2024 05: 52
    In the same EU, in an amicable way, 65% of farms should simply be closed.
    And in Russia, what will happen? Rising prices? Due to overproduction of agricultural products?
    1. +4
      4 March 2024 06: 07
      Internal price growth in our model occurs constantly. If world prices fall, they compensate internally; if they rise, they rise along with world prices). In the world as a whole there is overproduction and prices are falling. Various cataclysms are used to support them, such as “famine,” but in a period with such overproduction they return and tend downward again. We will compensate for this as described above. A rational option is to shift the emphasis from grain to livestock farming. Moreover, agricultural holdings have acquired land beyond the roof. Here, at least the domestic market can be developed and a long starting cycle, a long cycle is not even bad in this case.
      1. +2
        4 March 2024 06: 13
        Here at least the domestic market can be developed
        Well, well, let's see how the domestic market develops and how food prices drop. Moreover, the main Russian land oligarchs, owners of agricultural holdings, have plenty of land. How they will work at a loss.
      2. +2
        4 March 2024 07: 29
        Quote: nikolaevskiy78
        A rational option is to shift the emphasis from grain to livestock

        Hardly. Livestock farming is much more complex than crop farming, and the forecasts there are just as bleak. In the field of livestock farming, we generally have a ton of problems: a huge dependence on imports for almost everything, from seed material to modern equipment for complexes. All this will require enormous effort/investment and a lot of time. I very much doubt that our bourgeoisie will agree to this. And the cost of meat products is not so low, there will not be a huge demand for it, which means there is no need to create supply. Pig farming has almost hit the ceiling, as has poultry farming, and raising cattle is now an unprofitable idea. The usual markets for Russian grain are the Middle East, Asia, Africa, but pushing pork there will be unrealistic (for obvious reasons), the competition for chicken/turkey is tough, and it will be extremely difficult to compete with Brazilian/Australian beef, the margin will be minimal with significant investments. ..
        1. +5
          4 March 2024 08: 02
          because industry development in our country is always delayed, which means diversification will be delayed

          Diversification, apparently, will follow the old piivichny rut - in the end, a dozen of the largest latifundists will remain, and the rest will quietly die...
          The Guardian calculated that 148 billion euros worth of products are sent to landfill every year. This is 28–30% of the total volume.

          And without any guardians, this can be traced through our distribution networks. Prices for products are set in reinforced concrete, and up to 20-40% of the delay is thrown away...
          1. +1
            4 March 2024 09: 32
            The state must buy surplus agricultural production, albeit under several conditions:
            1. Buy only from those who work on domestic agricultural machinery (a certain percentage, for example).
            2. Makes maximum use of domestic seed material.
            3. Sell for export using loans.
            4. Only for medium and small farmers.
            1. +5
              4 March 2024 09: 37
              Quote: Civil
              true under several conditions:

              1. If only Rostselmash can satisfy everyone...
              2.And this can only be done under the patronage of the state.
              3.What percentage?
              4.Hehe, do you want to offend respected people? Disorder wassat Agricultural corporations will not understand.
        2. +2
          4 March 2024 10: 42
          It is more complicated, but firstly, we have land suitable for this north of Penza and Voronezh that is just a sea and a significant part is already in a virgin state. However, there are some advantages - we have an internal shortage of beef and a shortage of milk. Then the long cycle of commissioning such production will make it possible to flexibly adjust volumes, and imports can be limited by duties. Here you really need to approach it wisely. Production in Europe will decline, but this does not mean that we need to reduce everything indiscriminately, we need to look at the process and adapt to it, here the long cycle in meat will turn out to be a positive factor. But in general, food products for export are not the best option as an economic anchor.
          1. +1
            4 March 2024 11: 46
            Quote: nikolaevskiy78
            Then the long cycle of commissioning such production will make it possible to flexibly adjust volumes, and imports can be limited by duties.

            A long cycle implies “long” costs with an unguaranteed sales market and the same unguaranteed subsidies/restrictive duties. The person in the chair changes and a lot can change...
            Quote: nikolaevskiy78
            But in general, food products for export are not the best option as an economic anchor.

            I agree.
        3. +2
          4 March 2024 14: 37
          Well, with regard to “fast meat” - poultry, pork, there is some progress. And often in different directions. For example, pig farming is farmed out to large corporations, while private household plots are spread rot through all sorts of prohibitions from veterinary control. An example is African swine fever In Kuban, it is forbidden to keep piglets; if you drive thirty miles to Rostovskaya, it is allowed there. The question about cattle is very complicated - it’s expensive and not fast.
          1. +1
            4 March 2024 15: 42
            Quote from: dmi.pris1
            Well, there is some progress in “quick meat” - poultry, pork.

            This is not so much “advancement”, but literally a “breakthrough”... Domestic demand is practically satisfied, and in some places there is even overproduction and fierce competition from regional players. But we are talking about export prospects, and somehow there are no reasons for euphoria...
          2. +5
            4 March 2024 17: 13
            This is an interesting question. The fact is that on a scale you will not be able to provide poultry and pork through backyard farms. The village grunt will not go into meat production; it will not withstand the fat and yield category and will not produce one-time volumes. And the veterinarians will hit the wall winked . I am against the idea of ​​wild boars being slaughtered for the sake of fat-bellied nouveau riche am yard livestock is the same as in Kuban, but still, you won’t be able to produce grunts and broilers on a national scale without large stock of grunts and broilers. But with milk the story is different. Cattle can and should be distributed to households for minimal prices and the old principle of collecting raw materials can and should be returned and there will be work and local dairy production will suffocate. Nowadays it is not customary to cite Ukrainians as an example, but in the 2000s there was a program when 25000 heads of young Angus cattle were distributed to Westerners for a small price. By 2012, he was already exporting thousands of tons. And good quality, by the way. Many local slaughterhouses and workshops started operating. They really hit the meat, milk for soaking was always on their side, but here it’s a question of setting up the process from the state. If we solve the issue of feed, of which there are actually mountains in the country, then it will work.
            1. ANB
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              5 March 2024 00: 10
              . The village grunt will not go into meat production; it will not withstand the fat and yield category and will not produce one-time volumes.

              For meat - yes. But now a problem has emerged - there is no lard. For industrial pigs - 1 cm with skin. And normal thick lard is already 2 - 3 times more expensive than meat (600 - 700 last time I saw it on the market. On the Internet - more than 1000 for salted thin lard). The lard scam could have been left to private traders.
              1. +3
                5 March 2024 03: 40
                But lard is generally a problem. Normal lard is rustic lard, all sorts of barrels and so on are obtained after scorching. Industrial lard is not lard, but lard. Usually the backbone, which in theory should go into sausage, and not into a sandwich. But the backbone is usually sold in the store as lard, although it went through a scalding machine, and not through a palenka with burners and straw. In theory, store-bought lard is not lard at all, but raw materials for sausages, only seasoned in some salt.
                1. ANB
                  0
                  5 March 2024 10: 37
                  . Normal lard is village lard,

                  It's true. I remember from the village. This is a whole process involving singeing, steaming and resinizing. The skin should be soft and without hair. They don't bother like that at factories. The greasy pork could be left to private owners.
      3. +2
        4 March 2024 09: 06
        Now, a long time ago the state... adopted a law decoupling from world prices. Let's see how it plays out... Although it’s clear... And yes, what are these “Ukrainian goods”? But turbocharged patriots are proving to us that everything has collapsed there .Nothing is happening and everyone is huddled in the farmsteads..However, yes, we have fools in store for a hundred years
        1. 0
          4 March 2024 12: 50
          Quote from: dmi.pris1
          We have enough fools for a hundred years

          yeah - there is also overproduction, and the market is inelastic - no one will be able to get into exports)
  2. 0
    4 March 2024 07: 17
    Long-suffering Africa: consumption - 64 million tons, production - 27 million tons, deficit - 37 million tons. This is the largest regional deficit

    Yes, someone's bast shoe is vigorous!
    March 4th, I look out the window, the snow is much higher than “tomato-deep”. I scratch the back of my head, look at the ceiling and remember that a stable snow cover fell last year at the end of October. Total, FIVE winter months a year! At the same time, Russia is the largest grain EXPORTER in the world.
    Crap! But Africa, with year-round summer, cannot feed itself!
    Nah, even if I don’t drive into this structure at all!
    1. +1
      4 March 2024 09: 30
      The main breadbaskets are the Black Earth Region, Rostov, Stavropol, Krasnodar, Altai regions. I just work in agriculture and live in the south. I see how high yields are achieved and how much it goes to Novorossiysk. But we have problems with vegetables .And I won’t say what prices will be in the fall
      1. 0
        5 March 2024 04: 21
        Quote from: dmi.pris1
        The main breadbaskets are the Black Earth Region, Rostov, Stavropol, Krasnodar, Altai regions. I just work in agriculture and live in the south

        Here, in the Tula region, APO Novomoskovskoye made waves throughout the country in the 80s.
    2. 0
      4 March 2024 10: 12
      In Africa, the soils are different, half of Africa is desert, in the other half there are floods and drought. Africa is not the best place for grain production. They produce other agricultural products, such as cocoa, coffee, or bananas. The climate of Russia, especially the southern and middle regions, with chernozem soils, is suitable for grain crops.
      1. mz
        +1
        4 March 2024 10: 45
        Quote: smith 55

        The climate of Russia, especially the southern and middle regions, with chernozem soils, is suitable for grain crops.

        From the point of view of agronomy, there are no normal conditions for field crop production in Russia at all. There are two of these conditions: the amount of solar radiation during the growing season and the amount of water entering the soil during the same period. They must be executed simultaneously. In the southern regions of Russia there is a lack of water, in others there is a lack of solar radiation, or both.
        When compared with Europe, the harvest records in the Krasnodar Territory for Europe are at best an average result. Although there are quite objective reasons for this, and not just a lower level of agronomy.
        1. 0
          4 March 2024 14: 40
          The records for grain harvests in the Krasnodar Territory are directly proportional to the quality of the seed and agricultural chemicals. About thirty years ago, the average yields here were two times lower. Precipitation matters, not so dramatically. It all depends on the winter. How much moisture the soil will take in these months. More precisely, not from winter (we usually don’t see it), but the rainy months, from November to early March. Next comes the sowing work
    3. +1
      4 March 2024 12: 58
      Yes, I’ll add one more thing. My small homeland is the Smolensk region. I go there once every two or three years. I’ll note one thing, no matter how depressed this region is, agriculture is slowly moving, compared to what it was, say, fifteen years ago. Yes, farmers have been suppressed by large corporations (this can be seen in Kuban), but the fields are plowed, something is being grown... And this is far from the Black Earth Region and the South
  3. 0
    4 March 2024 09: 11
    Why has there never been a crisis of overproduction in Russia?

    I suppose because these crises are actually crises not of the buyer's ability to pay.
    They cannot buy the product and the manufacturer has to fold and fire workers.

    But in Russia, large companies will receive compensation and sell goods abroad. It is competitive due to low labor costs in Russia. And no crises!

    As a result, “not the typical people who are always silent” will, for demographic reasons, become secondary in the economy.

    A political struggle will appear, social processes will revive, dissatisfied farmers and workers will begin to strike... And life will return to normal.
  4. 0
    4 March 2024 09: 57
    Economic processes are complex, but their essence is simple: the adaptation of society as a whole to changes in the economy. That is, adaptation of both the bottom and the top. Who also have to adapt.
    If we are talking only about the stupid obedience of those who “endure everything” and survive hard in the richest country in the World among the technological wonders of the 21st century, then the result will not be survival according to Darwin, but something the opposite.
  5. 0
    4 March 2024 10: 30
    Quote: nikolaevskiy78
    Internal price growth in our model occurs constantly.


    + 100500!
    Our model is good, nothing more to say!
    1. +2
      4 March 2024 10: 55
      Yeah, it's good). Wonderful model. The most interesting thing is that only large enterprises benefit from this; medium-sized enterprises do not feel any better because of this.
      1. 0
        4 March 2024 11: 12
        And these are phantom pains of the state. property actually. That in the USSR, the peasants were the phantom pains of serfdom for the state, that now this “large enterprise affiliated with the state” is the same “reinforced rudiments” of state monopoly.
        As popular wisdom says, “You can take a girl out of the village, but never take the village out of the girl.”
        1. 0
          4 March 2024 14: 06
          Quote: Knell Wardenheart
          That in our USSR the peasants were the phantom pains of serfdom for the state, that now this “large peasant affiliated with the state...” You can take the girl out of the village, but never the village out of the girl.”

          It is possible to free serfs from serfdom, but it is impossible to remove serfdom from the brains of serfs. Therefore, the phantom pain of the serfs who lost their Master is there. If there is no Master, who will enforce the laws of the state? And if there is a Master, then why does a serf need laws? Master and cards in hand......"krupnyak" in Russia is that same Master. Only the name is different.

          Peasants in the USSR could not be “phantom pains” because they ensured food independence. It is not created by “pain”.
          The state itself had real pain during the Civil War, when the peasantry began to strangle the urban population with hunger. Heh...heh... since the Master left and he’s gone, anything is possible!
          1. 0
            4 March 2024 16: 21
            Peasants in the USSR could not be “phantom pains” because they ensured food independence

            Serfs, therefore, according to your approach, were free? Well, sort of, because they ensured food independence.
        2. 0
          4 March 2024 14: 28
          It sounds logical, but in thirty years it was somehow possible to come up with some ointments, pills, potions against phantom pain.
          1. +2
            4 March 2024 16: 25
            Our ointments and pills are an expansion of criminal-administrative articles and tightening the screws in the field of free journalism. If they don’t talk about a problem, it’s as if it doesn’t exist. drinks
            If something happens, you can say “This is all the machinations of the enemies, they want to rock our society! Don’t give in to provocations,” for this there are 100500 dolls who have perfectly memorized this line.
            1. +4
              4 March 2024 16: 38
              What can I say, may His Merciful Shadow fall on us
              ▪️The Kostroma authorities banned celebrating the day of the abolition of serfdom.
  6. +4
    4 March 2024 11: 08
    What Russia should think about when looking at European agrarian riots

    About what would happen to our farmers if they decided to change their rights even to a tenth of this.
    About how much good equipment European farmers have, which he can roll out like this, because low loans allow him to buy it and the income allows him to pay off these loans.
    About what professional solidarity and trade unions are in normal, and not imitation, execution.

    We really like to portray under this background that “but we have order.” They say, over there, what are they doing! Yes, this is an excess. In our case, they would just quietly go bankrupt and sell off the equipment for pennies. And there would be peace and quiet, peace and contemplation, bliss...

    Another thing, not from this category, but also a reason to think - the Swiss recently held a referendum on raising the pension age. AND they they decided not to promote him. Which is logical, damn it - who would want to work more in old age.
    Logic still remains in the EU, but there, too, insanity has already unfolded, albeit not yet in full force..
    1. +1
      4 March 2024 11: 31
      I now remember with a smile how in 2015-2016 people perked up, like now markets are opening, we need to put domestic production in the food industry. Yes. Some time has passed. No, average production here doesn’t last long winked
  7. -1
    4 March 2024 11: 18
    Quote: nikolaevskiy78
    The most interesting thing is that this only the big guy wins, average productions do not feel any better because of this.


    So, I would formulate it even further - “a separate group of unidentified persons”
    1. +2
      4 March 2024 11: 29
      The names change, but “in the arena they are still the same”
      https://zerno.ru/sites/zerno.ru/files/reports/cereals_week_251___25.12.2023-31.12.2023_rus.pdf
  8. 0
    4 March 2024 11: 26
    Overproduction of products can be easily cured. Another thing is that it will be practically impossible to refuse later due to crop failure.
    Ecological packaging (from the same starch), Biofuel (generally anything that can be used here is suitable and there are many such options.
  9. +1
    4 March 2024 12: 56
    "equilibrium value"
    - if you bring it up to it, it turns out that the current standard of living (comfort, satiety, security, entertainment) never pays off at all, and cannot be ensured by any “dekulakization of the bourgeoisie”...
    Well, that is, if we take out of the equation both the life of everyone in debt (“I don’t know, who will pay back and how in 50 years”), and the provision of goodness through the issue of “main currencies” to the residents of the respective countries...
    an effective global market multiplied by the availability of modern production technologies leads to a surplus of almost everything... in the absence of effective demand...
  10. 2al
    +1
    4 March 2024 13: 00
    Basic industries incl. agricultural workers are very quickly evacuating from the West to the BRICS+ countries. India and Brazil have long been exporters of agricultural products, China is actively developing its production of meat, milk and oilseeds, so that by 2030 it will supply the market not only rice, but meat and even soybeans.
  11. -1
    4 March 2024 20: 59
    Quote: APASUS
    Biofuel (generally anything that can be used here is suitable and there are many such options.


    Hear "Ekolokh", but there is no need to spread sedition! Give him biodiesel! If anything, to process one hectare, you will spend more biofuel than you can grow the raw materials for its production!
    1. 0
      4 March 2024 21: 03
      A good comment, albeit an emotional one. Everything has a price, both electric cars and biofuels. There is another problem, they want to redistribute the cost, instead of pure raw materials in the base, take derivatives as a basis. The idea does not seem sensible, but apparently the system does not see any other options.
      1. -1
        4 March 2024 21: 14
        There is one thing I don’t understand about our country! Why is rye so expensive, okay in Kazakhstan! When I lived there in the nineties, local distilleries bought almost all of it on the vine! And since, as far as I remember, the crop is unpretentious, unlike wheat, the cost of bread production should be less! And why can’t you find beans and lentils during the day? And if you find it, it will only be at an exorbitant price! belay
        1. +1
          4 March 2024 22: 18
          Regarding lentils, you noticed correctly, unfortunately... Dry beans are also not observed so often, but they are in crease. least can be found, unlike lentils.
          Regarding prices, I have the feeling that retail chains operate with markups no lower (as a rule) than 200-250% of the resale price. And the resale price is also about a 100% gain for the reseller.
          Perhaps the situation is even worse, because these are empirical observations.

          Regarding rye, there is more hassle when baking elegant products because the consistency qualities are different from wheat. Now high added value can be included in “fine products” - in various ciabattas or buns; with rye such tricks will be more limited than with wheat. In reality, the masses are not interested in healthier nutrition - give everyone a beautiful illusion of it, with buns beautifully sprinkled with bran..
        2. 0
          4 March 2024 22: 24
          Rye is our local crop. I don’t even remember who sold it for export. I don't remember the demand for it. Well, according to our internal development model, if something is not selling well on foreign markets and is stalling internally, then we definitely raise prices. Most likely, as usual, they were sown to order. The order did not work out and the volume was reduced by 2/3 of the supply in order to raise prices. This was the case with millet at one time.
  12. 0
    5 March 2024 12: 19
    We need more consumers :) Reproduce, reproduce and reproduce again :)
  13. 0
    10 March 2024 20: 10
    Let's look at the "root" of the European agrarian revolt... This "root" grows from Rome, or more precisely from the Vatican... The financial world oligarchy, under its historical "driver" (the Vatican), has held with an "iron hand" for the last 600 years “The whole world, both old and new, is in obedience, dictating to it their demands and “wants.” And, suddenly, the global financial oligarchy began to lose its position, one after another, in the world over the last 10 years (the era of Trump and the global manufacturing oligarchy), which could not but affect profits and losses, primarily in Europe... European the agrarian revolt is the beginning of a protracted war between the “white” and “scarlet” roses for dominance in the next millennium... And for us, Russia, there is a “hint” where to go and with whom to negotiate, on the issue of another “multipolarity”, so that “we don’t get into trouble.” loss"... Something like this, looking at this problem from the Russian hinterland...
  14. 0
    11 March 2024 02: 41
    I would be interested to look at the structure of the ejected
    150 billion euros are wasted annually. The number is simply amazing.
    This is actually half of Russia's frozen gold and foreign currency reserves. If, to
    example:

    1. The retail buyer has stocked his refrigerator, cabinets
    kitchen products, then expired, spoiled, did not eat and
    just threw it away. This does not affect the agricultural producer in any way.
    Everyone got theirs. From bottom to top. There will be no overproduction.

    2. Share of retail trade. As a rule, this is damage, delay,
    or, as a last resort, a slow-moving assortment (well, it doesn’t eat
    local buyer here, for example, lentils, for the life of me.
    Chain retail has a concept of shelf-to-place turnover).
    In this case, the agricultural producer also does not lose anything, for
    with the exception of not being included in the local assortment. They will buy so much
    the same or almost as much. There will be no overproduction.

    3. Link of processor of agricultural raw materials. Purchased, processed,
    unloaded to the warehouse, but sold a certain volume to trade
    I couldn't get the finished product. Here the influence is almost direct.
    Next year the harvest will not buy the volume of the previous year.
    Direct threat of overproduction.

    4. Share of the primary producer itself. Collective farmer,
    livestock breeder, fisherman in the end. Here it really is
    ambush. And especially for small and medium-sized manufacturers, not
    having contracted volumes for next year. Which
    Will there be a distribution for potatoes, carrots, cabbage or barley?
    What factors will influence? Policy. Weather. Fertilizers. Neighbour,
    infection, planted the same thing as me...

    Direct correlation between the volume of discarded products and its
    In my opinion, there is no overproduction on earth.
    Then, based on the premise of the article (in Europe it’s like, it’s necessary
    If only we could think about it) we can even think about where to lay the straw.

    And so everything goes to the point that large agricultural holdings with
    in the cycle: growing raw materials - processing - production -
    contracted sales on the network will objectively have
    maximum resistance to the risk factor of overproduction.
    And it is much easier for them to agree on the division of the market.
    And with the state about support measures.
    And with bankers.

    And we have lentils in the local supermarket. Two varieties.
    And there are six to eight types of flour. Would you like to bake cornbread at home?
    you want rye, you want wheat, whatever you want.
    But fives and magnets - no. Slow assortment..