A symmetrical answer: the creation of call centers in Russia to conduct reconnaissance and sabotage activities on the territory of Ukraine

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A symmetrical answer: the creation of call centers in Russia to conduct reconnaissance and sabotage activities on the territory of Ukraine

Speaking about the Russian Special Military Operation (SVO) in Ukraine, it is necessary to mention one problem that is extremely unpleasant for us, namely: active reconnaissance and sabotage activities carried out mainly by declassed elements - various outcasts, insane people, alcoholics and other representatives lumpen proletariat - at the instigation of the Center for Information and Psychological Operations (CIPSO) of the Main Intelligence Directorate (GUR) of Ukraine.

These same mechanisms are used to siphon huge amounts of money from Russia to Ukraine, however, now you can’t understand whether TsIPSO is stealing money, or whether it’s just crooks hiding behind Ukrainians.



A reasonable question arises: what should we do about this problem?

Confront TsIPSO


The measures taken to counter the activities of the TsIPSO GUR of Ukraine on the territory of Russia can hardly be considered sufficient.

Firstly, the measures introduced by cellular operators to limit the number of calls made for various illegal purposes (primarily for fraudulent purposes) do not provide a guaranteed exclusion of such calls, especially since criminal structures, as well as TsIPSO, are actively developing countermeasures.

By the way, it is highly recommended that children (mandatorily) and older people (as appropriate) install applications on smartphones and smartwatches (or use standard ones) that allow them to create a “white list”, when only those included in the contact list can get through - this will allow avoid many serious problems, including financial ones. In this sense, a simple smartphone for a grandparent or child, with a “white list” installed, is safer than a push-button phone that does not have such protection (there may also be push-button phones with a “white list”).

Secondly, the punishment for sabotage carried out by various degenerates, for example, at the facilities of the Russian Railways (RZD), is often quite mild. Yes, perhaps these people were deceived, but this is not a basis for mitigating the punishment - burned an electrical cabinet, planted something on the rails - minimum punishment 15-25 years of strict regime without the right to parole, with public coverage of the crime - natural selection no one canceled it for fools.

Thirdly, the best way to stop the work of Ukrainian call centers is their physical destruction, however, in order to destroy them, these call centers must first be found, and this is unlikely to be easy.

There is an excellent alternative - the destruction of critical objects that ensure the operation of cellular networks and the Internet, we have already talked about this more than once, for example, in the materials "Decomposition of Ukraine as a way to radically reduce the capabilities of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to resist the Russian special operation" и “Geranization” of the objects of the financial system of Ukraine will lead to the collapse of its economy and the stoppage of the military-industrial complex.”. After communications come power supply facilities - without electricity, TsIPSO will only be able to send handwritten messages by pigeon mail.

Unfortunately, based on open data, for some reason no systematic measures have been taken to destroy Ukrainian communication networks. It seems like they tried to disrupt the power supply, but they didn’t finish it, and now in Ukraine everything is fine with it.


Even the building of the headquarters of the GUR MOU in Kyiv has not yet been destroyed

However, within the framework of the topic discussed in this material, the main question is why our country itself does not use such a convenient, safe and effective tool as call centers working for the enemy?

You can't win a war with defense


The potential activities of Russian call centers lie in the area of ​​conducting reconnaissance and sabotage activities - it is unlikely that we will decide to rob Ukrainian pensioners.

In general, considering the experience of organizing sabotage by Ukrainian “proxies”, one cannot help but note that the extremely limited intellectual capabilities of potential saboteurs lead to an equally primitive organization of sabotage, while slightly more intellectually gifted individuals, apparently, avoid recruitment by the TsIPSO GUR of Ukraine.

You can consider two main options for organizing reconnaissance and sabotage activities on the territory of Ukraine using call centers.

The first is to involve the population of Ukraine in collecting intelligence data, that is, information about passing trains, taking off and flying airplanes and helicopters, moving armored vehicles and other things that interest us, of course, with verification of information using ubiquitous video recording devices. The task is not difficult, almost everyone has a means of obtaining information - a smartphone, sending via some messenger, in general, easy and practically risk-free earnings.

The second is, if not a disruption, then a maximum complication of the mobilization activities of the Ukrainian Armed Forces (AFU). The strengthening of mobilization activities in Ukraine, combined with the active “mobilization” of Ukrainian Armed Forces military personnel on the front line, should clearly contribute to various initiatives to evade potential candidates from this very mobilization-mobilization by all available means.

Since we are not much less interested in disrupting mobilization efforts than the Ukrainian mobilized people themselves, we need to help them. In particular, a mass mailing can be organized with recommendations for evading mobilization, taking into account Ukrainian legislation, simulating diseases (if there are still diseases that are not conscripted), evading by committing petty crimes and receiving minimum sentences for this, and so on and so forth. similar.


Mobilization in Ukraine is taking place in a “warm, friendly atmosphere”

If you have the appropriate information (see the item “collection of intelligence data”), you can organize a mass mailing about the beginning of the raid - with proper organization, all this can happen in real time, you can even develop an appropriate application for smartphones, in which sympathizers/wants will mark the location of representatives of military registration and enlistment offices , and potential mobilizers will avoid meeting with them.

And, of course, no one is canceling the organization of direct sabotage, both against Ukrainian military registration and enlistment offices and against their employees. It is necessary to buy, encourage and provoke persons at risk of mobilization, as well as their relatives, to set fire to Ukrainian military registration and enlistment offices and vehicles belonging to them, to suggest simple, but tough and effective ways to attack employees of Ukrainian military registration and enlistment offices.

The two options for reconnaissance and sabotage activities on the territory of Ukraine discussed above do not exclude the implementation of other measures, including symmetrical ones - organizing sabotage at power supply facilities, railways, oil and gas infrastructure facilities - and even if they throw screws on the primer in front of the military unit, as they say, “ It’s a small thing, but it’s nice.” In the end, in Ukraine there are clearly no fewer declassed elements than in Russia, so it is necessary to use them to the maximum.

In general, there are extremely interesting options for organizing work with certain groups of the population, but it is hardly reasonable to discuss them in the public sphere, since TsIPSO, apparently, has not yet thought of them.

Creation of call centers in Russia


Where and how can “reconnaissance and strike” call centers be created in Russia?

There are many options, but there are two main ones.

First of all, call centers can be created where they appear “naturally” - on the basis of institutions of the penitentiary system.

Unfortunately, Russia’s experience of attracting prisoners to participate in hostilities as part of the Wagner PMC can hardly be called correct and successful.

Firstly, among those involved in hostilities were those convicted of crimes so cruel and heinous that it was impossible to atone for them in any way other than death penalty (preferably by hanging), is completely impossible.

Secondly, the very idea of ​​involving prisoners in hostilities and their release after six months looks like a mockery towards the mobilized and fighters of the Russian Armed Forces who will remain in service until the end of the Northern Military District.

The creation of prison call centers will not require any victims and does not involve releasing anyone - there are many people convicted of minor crimes who can thus perform fairly simple, paid work. There are no special skills required, the work can be done using scripts; call centers of banks, cellular networks and similar structures have such experience in abundance. Calls must be made only to verified contacts (that is, operators cannot call wherever they want).


Reconnaissance and attack call centers can cause significant damage to the enemy

By the way, the creation of the same “reconnaissance and strike” call centers in the wild using the developments of the above-mentioned banks and cellular networks is the second option for their organization. Active use robots in call centers has led to the emergence of redundant personnel in this area, often already trained, the state may well use their skills to greater benefit.

Conclusions


In 2023, scammers stole 15,8 billion rubles from Russian citizens, how much of it went to Ukraine is an open question, how could it not happen that we unwittingly finance the Armed Forces of Ukraine in a larger volume than some countries hostile to us. To this must be added the losses from sabotage committed at the instigation of the TsIPSO GUR of Ukraine, as well as the costs of countermeasures.

As long as there is a connection in Ukraine, the damage from the activities of TsIPSO will only increase. Since for some reason we cannot leave Ukraine without communications, then it is necessary to take other measures, both to protect against the activities of the Central Intelligence Agency of Ukraine, and to implement similar measures on the territory of Ukraine.

Well, depriving Ukraine of communications remains one of the most important, unfortunately, still unresolved issues.
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  1. +20
    28 February 2024 05: 21
    Quote: Andrey Mitrofanov
    Even the headquarters building of the GUR MOU in Kyiv is still not destroyed
    The television center was not destroyed, the radio stations were not destroyed, the data centers, which currently disseminate much more information than TV, were not destroyed. The critical transport infrastructure in western Ukraine, where weapons are supplied en masse, has not been destroyed. There are also railway junctions and airports
    1. +1
      28 February 2024 08: 54
      Quote: Dutchman Michel
      The television center was not destroyed, the radio stations were not destroyed, the data centers, which currently disseminate much more information than TV, were not destroyed.

      I am sure that the metro stations in Kyiv that failed were clearly not due to the above reasons. Masking Bandera's intentions. Flooding, etc. Perhaps now they are used as workshops or bunkers for the Ukronazi leadership. Moreover, above these stations there are residential areas of the city. The Jewish Nazis secured their insurance by peaceful people.
      1. 0
        29 February 2024 01: 01
        Quote: 30 vis
        bunkers for the Ukronazi leadership

        Definitely not, no one from the Ukronazi leadership has been harmed since 1955. Not a single head of the village council is from the Lviv region. Zero generals, zero media personalities. We didn’t even happen to be close to one with a diving caliber.
    2. -2
      29 February 2024 02: 00
      The television center was not destroyed, the radio stations were not destroyed, the data centers, which currently disseminate much more information than TV, were not destroyed. The critical transport infrastructure in western Ukraine, where weapons are supplied en masse, has not been destroyed. There are also railway junctions and airports

      But they took Avdeevka.
  2. +16
    28 February 2024 05: 36
    Everything that is not destroyed is ultimately paid for with the blood of our soldiers and Russian people on the side of the Armed Forces and delays the Northern Military District.
    1. +3
      28 February 2024 05: 48
      The Ukronazi propaganda frenzy will NOT dissipate on its own. You will have to work and work for this. Denazification should continue after demilitarization
      1. +6
        28 February 2024 22: 55
        Last summer I wrote: in the liberated cities of Novorossiya, who did the Ukrainians blow up first? Officials! That is, they destroyed the control system! The same needs to be done in Ukraine. BECAUSE A SNAKE WITH A SEVERED HEAD WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BITE ANYMORE! And you can even violate the control system in the favorite way of poor students who don’t want to write a test - call and report that the building of your “favorite” military registration and enlistment office (mayor’s office, council, council) is mined! You can stock up on a couple of kilograms of yeast and load them into the sewers of the above-mentioned objects! After which, the operation of objects will be possible only in gas masks and chemical protection suits! Of course, a TNT equivalent would be preferable, but... we'll see! It seems that some kind of movement has begun in Ukraine. In Odessa, a local Nazi and his wife, who jointly participated in the burning of people in the House of Trade Unions, were turned into a juicy kebab of two servings by blowing up their car! And in Lvov, an entire factory for the production of drones for APU! It’s a small thing, of course, but nice!
    2. -1
      29 February 2024 02: 02
      Everything that is not destroyed is ultimately paid for with the blood of our soldiers and Russian people on the side of the Armed Forces and delays the Northern Military District.

      It's all the women's fault who don't want to give birth to 15 children.
  3. +7
    28 February 2024 05: 36
    Quite a business proposal. In general, the Ministry of Defense, and not only it, would do well to move to more active actions in all areas. In war it’s like in war.
    1. +10
      28 February 2024 09: 29
      But no. The article is completely amateurish. The author has absolutely no idea how communication networks work, including cellular communications. You can determine the point from which calls are made in a matter of minutes, if not seconds, and accordingly you can easily block access.
      1. 0
        28 February 2024 23: 22
        You can determine the point from which calls are made in a matter of minutes, if not seconds, and accordingly you can easily block access.

        Then please explain why call centers from the outskirts are still working if everything is so easy to shut down?
        1. 0
          29 February 2024 01: 06
          The answer to the question is the same as how you can constantly withdraw stolen money without problems. It is much easier to track a transfer than a call, especially in times of sanctions. The answer is simple - banks do not intend to fight this; they charge a percentage on large transfers (and scammers usually extort more than five thousand rubles). And the police, instead of investigating, will say that the money was stolen by his son-brother-matchmaker, if you don’t withdraw the statement and don’t lag behind, we’ll put him in a pre-trial detention center for six months.
          1. -1
            29 February 2024 02: 03
            It’s high time to strengthen our units in the Donbass with police.
            1. 0
              29 February 2024 02: 17
              There are doubts that they can strengthen something there. It would be better for them to start practicing their professional activities conscientiously, especially the financial department.
              1. 0
                29 February 2024 13: 12
                People go on assaults after being wounded, or already aged, and they go, and these big guys sit in the rear. Cursing and threats from the police are no longer an emergency.
        2. 0
          29 February 2024 11: 51
          This question is not for me. You can find out the address where the Call Center is connected very quickly. Why the communications law is so strict towards citizens and permissive in relation to call centers is an interesting question.
          Perhaps some lovers of innovation have organized some kind of excessive freedom to replace telephone numbers, and now they are afraid to admit mistakes and correct them. That is, there are personal ambitions and negligence in the aggregate. For some unknown reason, some innovators did not create separate numbering, addressing for all sorts of messengers and play around there, but decided to frolic in telephone networks.
          But again, I repeat. All incomprehensible waves of “leftist” phone calls can be stopped very quickly, literally with one stroke of the pen.
  4. +6
    28 February 2024 06: 05
    People in Russia, not divorced from the inhabitants of heaven, are real patriots and give practical advice very quickly. How to punish Europe in Ukraine. Lay everything out on the shelves. It feels like subordinates collect information, pass it on to superiors, who pass it off as their own. Countermeasures are determined, and a la, in six months or a year, our response to Pinochet. By this time, Europe already has another nasty car heading our way.
    1. 0
      28 February 2024 16: 59
      He who is not a tactician is a strategist; he who is not Marx is Lenin; he who is not Bonaparte is a new Rokossovsky.
  5. +4
    28 February 2024 06: 22
    So far, I only see from the Russian side humanity and tolerance, as in the writing of words, the Ukrabenderites, then warnings come from the admins here: you can’t do this, then what other struggle are they telling us on these pages, look who’s sitting in your admins first
  6. +3
    28 February 2024 06: 23
    The decision was made “promptly”. Less than two years have passed. Wait a minute though...
  7. +5
    28 February 2024 06: 33
    Read Lenin, what should be neutralized first. The main thing is to stop being altruistic: a country without communications will slip into the 19th century.
  8. +1
    28 February 2024 06: 44
    Whose Crimea?
    -our.
    Whose Quebec? - also ours.
    Whose kolyma?
    -also yours.
    1. 0
      28 February 2024 08: 33
      The “New Earth” project should be implemented in relation to Ukronazi criminals.
  9. +2
    28 February 2024 07: 05
    Why doesn’t our country itself use such a convenient, safe and effective tool as call centers working for the enemy?
    This is from the same opera - “why, refineries, bridges, decision centers are not touched.”
    Yes, everyone knows that capitalism has no time to destroy its beloved self.
  10. +5
    28 February 2024 07: 42
    . Unfortunately, Russia has experience in attracting prisoners to participate in hostilities as part of the Wagner PMC. can hardly be called correct and successful.

    Why? Did they capture Bakhmut when everyone was on the defensive?
    1. +1
      28 February 2024 08: 47
      Apparently, Dresden was bombed by the communists in 45.
      1. -1
        28 February 2024 16: 54
        It looks like they didn’t bomb in vain, so they quickly forgot about it
  11. +1
    28 February 2024 07: 48
    We need to remake banking and collection call centers, not to rob our citizens and harass them, but to rob our enemies. Otherwise, the parasites are sitting and making phone calls that are draining their brains, why aren’t they on the front line? Let them do something useful
    1. -1
      29 February 2024 02: 05
      We need to remake banking and collection call centers, not to rob our citizens and harass them, but to rob our enemies. Otherwise, the parasites are sitting and making phone calls that are draining their brains, why aren’t they on the front line? Let them do something useful

      I’m wondering why the police, the Ministry of Emergency Situations and military professionals are not on the front line, and the children of the leadership.
  12. 0
    28 February 2024 08: 15
    It’s interesting that capitalism is in both Russia and Ukraine. Oligarchs here and there. The prehistory of both states is Soviet.....

    There are huge natural resources here, but brains work clearly faster there. They even fight with weapons that they did not have.... But we cannot prevent the delivery of weapons that we have.
    It will be unique in History and the first case if hohlam’s brains don’t help!
  13. +3
    28 February 2024 08: 21
    This problem is not only ripe, it has long been overripe and rotted at the root. And if it has not been resolved, is not being resolved, and apparently will not be resolved, then “everything is going according to plan.”
  14. +4
    28 February 2024 08: 32
    Tourists from all sorts of Euro Passes still come to Kyiv. I will never believe that these would go somewhere without security guarantees. Isn't this a shame?
    Maybe it’s time for Pu to finally decide whether they are our enemies or our partners?
  15. +2
    28 February 2024 08: 33
    Quote: Volunteer Marek
    This problem is not only ripe, it has long been overripe and rotted at the root. And if it has not been resolved, is not being resolved, and apparently will not be resolved, then “everything is going according to plan.”


    Yes exactly
    “there” - everything is fine, “there” nothing is needed - everything is there
  16. +2
    28 February 2024 08: 42
    Unfortunately, Russia’s experience of attracting prisoners to participate in hostilities as part of the Wagner PMC can hardly be called correct and successful.

    Firstly, among those involved in hostilities were those convicted of crimes so cruel and disgusting that it was generally impossible to atone for them in any way other than the death penalty (preferably by hanging).

    Secondly, the very idea of ​​involving prisoners in hostilities and their release after six months looks like a mockery towards the mobilized and fighters of the Russian Armed Forces who will remain in service until the end of the Northern Military District.


    Do you have an example of another experience? - Where did “Wagner” appear on LBS? - from Syria...
    why did he appear on LBS? - because the generals couldn’t...
    why did you go to the Federal Penitentiary Service? - “desperate” people were needed (after all, they were admitted to Wagner only under two articles of the Criminal Code)
    therefore, your tolerant thoughts on this matter are from the category of the green agenda in the West: “all hunters are killers”
  17. +5
    28 February 2024 08: 43
    I don’t understand - the author proposes in response to fool Ukrainian elderly people and children so that they take out loans from banks and transfer them to the side? I think it smells very bad
  18. +2
    28 February 2024 08: 46
    Call centers must first be found

    And warn (sarcasm) that we will strike, as we did at the beginning of the Northern Military District, when they struck the TsIPSO point in Kyiv...
  19. +6
    28 February 2024 10: 12
    At first, prisoners with articles on particularly serious cases were given mine-explosive skills, trained in assault operations, and given access to heavy weapons, now prisoners with simpler articles are offered to be trained in psychological operations to undermine the financial stability of unfriendly countries. We cannot stop there, I also propose to give knowledge to these to worthy people, about all the ways of counterfeiting
    foreign currencies of a potential enemy and the basics of chemistry for the production of narcotic substances and explosives, so that through the global Internet they, in turn, would distribute this information among citizens of countries that do not support our invariably peaceful policy, which will undoubtedly lead them to military-political collapse. I consider the plan absolutely reliable .
    1. 0
      29 February 2024 12: 56
      It's too late. Most of these guys are no longer in this world.
  20. 0
    28 February 2024 11: 40
    Quote: Skif3216
    now it is proposed to train prisoners with simpler articles in psychological operations to undermine the financial stability of unfriendly countries


    so there are enough articles in the Criminal Code on the subject of fraud - and this is precisely the sphere of “psychological” operations
    neither add nor subtract!
  21. 0
    28 February 2024 12: 29
    The article is a plus, definitely. We got into a puddle with energy - the 404th energy-rich country thanks to the Soviet legacy, shot hundreds of missiles and thousands of drones into the void. But data centers, yes, they are expensive, take a long time to restore, and are painful. Kyivstar got punched in the gut, it needs to be developed. Any scenarios. Hackers, sabotage, missile attacks, everything possible. Well, it’s a matter of honor to bomb the GUR building in Kyiv.
  22. +1
    28 February 2024 13: 01
    They don’t destroy the communications and headquarters of the guru because it will be possible to trophy the communications and the building, a pity for the rarity. Yes, and it’s a pity that you have to destroy the people of the nation’s genes, there is a film and a genotech laboratory you need to know your DNA gene and ukrov you need to take prisoners, in the 21st century it was possible to come up with a large smoke bomb with some kind of gas or euthanasia in order to leave as many people alive as possible, even enemies and cure and live peacefully and amicably
    1. +4
      28 February 2024 13: 40
      You won't be able to trophy it anyway. Since Kyiv cannot be taken. And if Kyiv falls, they will blow it up themselves. This is their hobby. Dancing, wobbling and exploding.
  23. +1
    28 February 2024 14: 23
    IMHO, if it’s not created now, it’s not needed.
    Intelligence is already there.
    And to fraudulently extort money and information... that’s how swindlers do it from Russian territory, they wrote directly from Russian prisons.
    What should we take from the Ukrainians?
  24. 0
    28 February 2024 14: 30
    It’s high time, it would be good to unite a patriotic society. Only a well-planned operation will give the desired result. From 2014 it would be necessary...
  25. +2
    28 February 2024 15: 02
    If we wanted, ours could close access for Ukraine to our country, but for some reason they don’t do this. The question is why?
  26. 0
    28 February 2024 15: 56
    find, but this is unlikely to be easy.
    These call centers in Ukraine have their offices in business centers with legal addresses. An hour on the Internet and you have a list of where to go for an interview. The scammers there have their own forum - “Pirate Bay” Yes .
    The creation of prison call centers will not require any sacrifices
    Released operators who have gained work experience laughing They will fleece their own citizens even faster.
    1. 0
      29 February 2024 01: 13
      So we need to teach them foreign languages, they will understand that the Germans and English can get more passion, they will be like privateers of the 21st century. Or even train a neural network to do this...
      1. 0
        29 February 2024 06: 25
        the Germans and English can give you more passion
        As experience shows, you can’t get a penny off the Germans and British. Such fraud schemes have not taken root here at all, and
        teach foreign languages
        - almost impossible without a long immersion in the environment.
        1. 0
          29 February 2024 13: 08
          Quote: Bolt Cutter
          Such fraud schemes have not taken root here at all.

          I remember that you live in all European countries at once, you can probably offer some other types.
          Quote: Bolt Cutter
          almost impossible without long immersion in the environment

          There are smart translators
          1. 0
            29 February 2024 13: 39
            you live in all European countries at once
            Mainly in England, although I am familiar with the situation in many places tongue
            There are smart translators
            The people here are suspicious, with mistakes and an accent, and won’t listen.
            1. 0
              29 February 2024 14: 25
              Apparently you checked whether they are easy to separate?
              1. 0
                29 February 2024 14: 56
                check
                No i
                1. I have never heard about this kind of incident on the local news.
                2. I read on a scam forum (there is one) that working in Europe is useless.
  27. +2
    28 February 2024 18: 15
    Our crooks also work well. A friend’s daughter was scammed out of the zone for 2,5 million rubles. Dating by correspondence. Then there was a trial. To the question - where did you get the phone, SIM card, the answer - I found it. There are no ends, no money. They were awarded damages. Goal like a falcon. Now an acquaintance is afraid that since his daughter is hooked, there will be consequences, and someday he will come out as a swindler... So in this business, everyone in the zones is involved, both inmates and guards, right up to the prison authorities.
  28. 0
    28 February 2024 20: 35
    “Thank you” to the author for touching on a topic that, in my personal opinion, should remain in the shadows.
    Is it possible to give the author a minus for this publication? Or should I just speak out in the comments?
  29. 0
    29 February 2024 01: 24
    So we need to incite our convicts, let them call and pretend to be saboteurs, and take money from them in advance for sabotage, then they don’t get in touch or pretend to be sabotage, supposedly check how to check, they won’t be able to do anything if they send high-quality photoshopped photos, but the money will come to the convicts, part of which they give to their needs and part of yourself than half espionage
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