“Migrant quarters” will be created in the Moscow region, adopting the negative experience of France

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“Migrant quarters” will be created in the Moscow region, adopting the negative experience of France

At the beginning of the month, Vadim Kozhenov, an expert on working with migrants, in an interview with the National Service News“said that the governor of the Moscow region, Andrei Vorobyov, held a meeting with representatives of large businesses, officials and law enforcement officers, at which a decision was made to build special residential areas to accommodate migrants. This is justified by the fact that this would supposedly make it easier to control migrants.

Some media outlets approved this initiative. In particular, "Moscow Komsomol" writes that



“In the long term, it will be good for everyone: both the employee, who is just a stone’s throw away from work, and the employer, who will not have to sit around empty-handed when the employee finds a simpler vacancy. And so the employee will actually be tied to the place. After all, his bosses give him not only a salary, but also housing.”

Quarters for migrants are far from an innovative idea; in this regard, Russia is simply adopting European experience. True, this experience cannot be said to be positive, considering what “social quarters” for migrants (essentially ghettos) are like in France.

In addition, the construction of these neighborhoods will aggravate another problem that is already acute - the problem of integrating migrants into Russian society, who do not want to integrate at all. Moreover, migrant children also do not want to integrate, and they often bully Russian children in schools. Not to mention the fact that Russia has certain problems with predominantly Muslim republics that live according to Sharia law and perceive Russia and Russians as something alien.

So what does the creation of neighborhoods for migrants threaten Russia in the future? After all, the Moscow region can only become a “test of the pen”, which is what adherents of the current migration policy are talking about.

How “social neighborhoods” in France for migrants turned into ghettos



Speaking about the creation of neighborhoods for migrants, it is impossible not to mention historical the experience of France, which has long followed this path. The history of “social quarters” in France is inextricably linked with the problems of migrants. It all started with the fact that in the 1950-1960s. On the initiative of the French government, migrants began to be settled in social quarters (Cite), social housing complexes for low-income people [1].

It should be noted that initially such areas were not migrant areas - these were social housing neighborhoods, built for those who could not afford to buy an apartment, but were in dire need of it. In these quarters in the middle of the twentieth century. Workers from surrounding plants and factories lived there, and slum dwellers moved into them, whom the country’s authorities resettled in the post-war period [2].

As migration flows increased, the dormitories built for migrant workers became insufficient, and staying families needed apartments. Therefore, social housing neighborhoods began to be seen as places for temporary residence of foreign workers. Migrants tried to settle next to their fellow countrymen, creating communities based on their country of origin within a neighborhood.

With the arrival of migrant families in the country, social neighborhoods also become places of residence for their families. Migrants are gradually becoming the overwhelming majority of residents of poor neighborhoods, and former residents are trying to move to other areas, not wanting to live in a new society [1].

Since the early 1980s, social housing areas, located mainly in the suburbs of industrial cities, have been inextricably linked with the image of the migrant, and the problems that exist in them - violence, crime, drugs - have been mediatized. These neighborhoods become zones of “exclusion”; the concept of “ghetto” begins to be applied to them, thereby emphasizing their specialness, marginality, peripherality, as well as the “exclusion” of their inhabitants from the life of the rest of the city [2].

It is worth noting that when we talk about migrants who became residents of these social quarters, we are talking about migration from African countries (primarily from Algeria, Tunisia and Morocco, but also from sub-Saharan African countries, mainly former colonies of France). These countries are predominantly Muslim.

Since the majority of migrants were Muslims from the Maghreb countries, over time, the Islamic factor began to increasingly influence French migration policy. At the same time, the authorities ignored him for a long time. This was primarily due to the fact that from the moment of the final separation of church and state in 1905, a strict anti-religious policy was pursued in France (with the exception of the short period of existence of the collaborationist Vichy regime). Left governments were especially distinguished by this [5].

Anyone who is aware of the mood of the Islamic diaspora in Europe knows that not only Islamists dream of the dominance of Islam in Europe, but also ordinary Muslims act in this direction. They want to turn Europe - through demographic Islamization, an influx of migrants - into Dar al-Islam (House of Islam) [4].

It should also be noted that, according to the Law on Information and Freedoms of 1978, in France there is a ban on any statistics and registration of the population based on distinctive characteristics, including nationality and religion. In this regard, it is not possible to reliably determine the number of Muslim migrants and their national and religious composition. Moreover, illegal migration cannot be calculated [3].

As a result, closed communities were formed in France, creating their own infrastructure and hindering integration. Migrants and their families did not want to integrate into French society, because they were mainly from villages in remote areas, did not speak French and had several classes of education.

In the second half of the 1990s – early 2000s, the growth in the number of migrants and especially their concentration in the southern cities of France and Paris gave rise to ethno-religious and socio-economic tension and conflict [3]. Clashes with the police, pogroms, and car burnings began to occur every year.

Migrants who became French citizens, and especially the younger generation of migrants, began to demonstrate, forcing the government to change the already unpopular law. In other European countries that receive large numbers of migrants and have similar migrant neighborhoods, the situation is no better.

Thus, in August 2011, violent youth riots broke out in the migrant neighborhoods of London, Birmingham, and Liverpool, which escalated into real pogroms. According to media reports, 90% of their participants are children of migrants. This behavior certainly causes protest in Europe [4]. For this reason, right-wing and far-right parties began to strengthen their positions.

The problem of integration of migrants and their enclavization



The situation with migrants in Russia is not too different from the situation in France. Formally, there are currently no neighborhoods for migrants in the Russian Federation, but in fact, back in 2021, a study by sociologists from RANEPA about migrant enclaves that emerged not only in Moscow and St. Petersburg, but also in several large regional centers.

RANEPA analysts came to the conclusion that the main places for the formation of migrant enclaves in large Russian cities are the areas around markets. Experts examined 37 market areas in 15 cities with a population of over a million. It turned out that in six such places the concentration of apartments rented by guest workers is 20% or more.

Like migrants in France, guest workers in Russia also do not want to integrate into Russian society, preferring to communicate with their fellow tribesmen and resolve all issues through diasporas - closed organizations with an unclear legal status. That is, just like in France, migrants in the Russian Federation create closed communities that form their own infrastructure and hinder integration.

The diaspora helps the migrant prepare documents (often “solving problems” with the Russian language exam, which a migrant from Central Asia does not know or knows very poorly), find housing and work, and resolve basic everyday and social issues. That is, migrants arriving in a new region in an already large diaspora (or enclave) are involved in economic activities, bypassing the study of the local language and traditions, and live compactly among their ethnic group, without having to integrate into the host society.

Moreover, children of migrants also do not strive for integration. Here, the Russian authorities are repeating the same mistake that the French authorities made, who at one time believed that a child from a migrant environment could be integrated into French society through school. In fact, at school, migrants preferred to communicate with fellow migrant children.

In Russia, the situation in this regard is sad - in Moscow, for example, there are entire classes of children of migrants from Central Asia who practically do not speak Russian. This leads to the fact that children of migrants unite in groups and beat their peers, and engage in bullying of Russian children.

The recent scandal in Chelyabinsk was loud, where Tajik boys beat Russian children and threatened them. “Tsargrad”, in particular, published videos with children’s parents who told, for example, following:

“I recently found out that Israel hit my Vasilina with his fist and pressed her to the wall. Tajik boys conspired to hurt girls. We have fights all the time. There is video evidence. The school management turns a blind eye to the problem.”

However, the author will try to consider in detail the problems with migrant children in Russian schools in a separate material, because there are quite a lot of such cases. Moreover, there are problems with the integration of children from Ingushetia, Chechnya, and Dagestan, who also often do not know Russian well and tend to group themselves along ethnic lines.

Thus, neither migrants nor their children plan to integrate into Russian society, preferring to live according to their own laws and rules.

Neighborhoods for migrants – arguments for and against


Supporters of the construction of neighborhoods for migrants argue that, they say, such migrant neighborhoods are needed in order to monitor the places where migrants live closely from the very beginning. Such areas can be equipped with a large number of cameras, and the area itself can almost be surrounded by a fence with barbed wire. However, will this really be the case?

After all, most likely, migrant towns will emerge on the basis of existing residential complexes. And if this is so, then the problem of ethnic crime and the problem of integration will only get worse. That is, if the Moscow region authorities build special temporary towns for migrants in some remote areas, where they will be under the supervision of security forces, then this is one thing, but if they are settled in existing residential complexes in a separate area, then this is completely different.

What exactly will come of this can be observed from the situation in Kotelniki near Moscow, especially the Yuzhny microdistrict, where the majority of the population now consists of migrants - mainly immigrants from Central Asia - Tajikistan and Uzbekistan. On the streets and playgrounds of the town you can see many women in hijabs, black-bearded men and groups of dark-skinned children (migrant families usually have large families).


Migrants often pester girls of Slavic appearance, and react aggressively to any comments. The streets of the town have long become unsafe.

Chairman of the National Anti-Corruption Committee of Russia, member of the Human Rights Council under the President of Russia Kirill Kabanov believes that the creation of “migrant quarters” in the Moscow region will only worsen the problems with migrants:

“To implement such a project, it is necessary to create a detailed legal framework, and this clearly should not be decided at the regional level. Among other things, understanding who is behind the declared initiative, it becomes clear that this is not even close to putting things in order in the migration sphere, it is again just about a lot of money in personal pockets. This means that the likelihood of “13 districts” emerging around Moscow as breeding grounds for crime, radicalism/extremism and other problems is high. After all, the “ebony traders” and migration lobbyists are behind this.”

The position of migration lobbyists in Russia is indeed very strong, since they are supported at the highest level. Recently, the Prosecutor General’s Office was asked to check job advertisements with the wording “only for migrants,” since there are quite a lot of such offers on the websites Avito.ru, HeadHunter, Rabota.ru, SuperJob.ru. At the same time, a court in Moscow banned publications about vacancies “only for Slavs” due to alleged “discrimination based on nationality.”

Until now, no one has paid attention to vacancies “only for migrants”, “only for Chechens”, etc. And it remains to be seen what the prosecutor’s response will be. Perhaps, as part of the ongoing policy of “multinational friendship”, they decided to ban only the words “Slavs” and “Russians”.

To summarize, it should be noted that taking into account the fact that the Russian Federation is not going to change its migration policy, the construction of “neighbourhoods for migrants” will most likely lead to increased enclavization, as well as to an increase in conflicts with the local population. At the moment, Moscow has one of the highest rates of interethnic tension compared to other subjects of the Federation, and the emergence of new migrant enclaves will only worsen the situation.

Использованная литература:
[1]. Demintseva E.B. Creating “ghettos”: social quarters of France and their inhabitants (1960–2010) // Vestn. Tomsk state un-ta. Story. 2015. No. 5(37). pp. 105–112.
[2]. Demintseva E.B. “Problematic suburbs” and their inhabitants: Parisian suburbs between the “revolt of the suburbs” and “Charlie Hebdo”. 2015. No. 5. P. 135-148.
[3]. Zholudeva N.R., Vasyutin S.A. Problems of employment of Muslim migrants in France (the example of Paris). Part 1 // Vestn. North (Arctic) federal un-ta. Ser.: Humanite. and social Sciences. 2021. Vol. 21, No. 6.
[4]. Andersen. P. Migrants take Europe on board / Peter Anderson; lane with him. V. Rodina // Our contemporary. – 2012. - No. 3. – P. 149-151
[5]. Chernega, V.N. France: The crisis of migrant integration policy / V.N. Chernega // Current problems of Europe. – 2016. – No. 4. – pp. 140-156.
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  1. +57
    27 February 2024 04: 49
    It was someone who put this idea into Governor Vorobyov’s head and gave the command to implement it. Who? This is clearly betrayal and sabotage. And this person has a name and position. Why isn't the FSB aroused? Any artiodactyl can understand how such national ghettos end up; there are many striking examples. So why is this being done? To create the preconditions for a social catastrophe and explosion.
    1. Qas
      +64
      27 February 2024 06: 40
      Should I give you my full name? Who is legally obliged to be responsible for what is happening in the country, but in fact, for decades now they have been throwing up their hands “I have nothing to do with it” and who will soon be re-elected President of the Russian Federation again?
      1. +26
        27 February 2024 08: 31
        ...but in fact, for decades he has been throwing up his hands “I have nothing to do with it”

        Plus “I was deceived”, that’s all and bribes are smooth.
      2. +34
        27 February 2024 08: 48
        Quote: Qas
        Who will soon be re-elected President of the Russian Federation again?

        By the way, it is this name that made the public promise that he will not allow the formation of “national enclaves” such as “Chinatowns” in Russia! Although...if you publish a list of this “citizen’s” unfulfilled promises, you will get a “volume” the size of the Great Soviet Encyclopedia!
        1. +17
          27 February 2024 09: 10
          "This is the name that makes the public promise"
          What didn’t this character promise, but who believes him? those same 146%?
          1. +1
            27 February 2024 11: 48
            Quote: ZloyKot
            "This is the name that makes the public promise"
            What didn’t this character promise, but who believes him? those same 146%?


            Well, ok, they’ll draw him 70-80 percent, but how are they going to move him into power??
          2. +1
            27 February 2024 12: 16
            But who believes him? those same 146%?

            Not only everyone believes him (C)
            1. 0
              28 February 2024 15: 00
              Not only everyone believes him
              It’s impossible for bots to understand, but I don’t know a single friend who would allow Putin to be replaced by someone else.
              1. +1
                28 February 2024 17: 13
                Yes, it’s difficult to understand bots in this desire. It’s even more difficult to understand, with or without Putin, how to get out of that large and multidimensional life into which our great helmsman and his faithful comrades, together with respected partners, brought us all.
          3. +1
            28 February 2024 02: 45
            And what is not attributed to him.
        2. +12
          27 February 2024 11: 19
          If migrants are so important to this, then let him settle them in Noao-Ogarevo. The Kremlin cannot be used as a cultural heritage for this purpose
        3. -1
          2 March 2024 13: 34
          Indeed, Vladimir Vladimirovich has a penchant for pretentious appeals and projectism (we will live by 20030, we will spend hundreds of billions there, we will spend other hundreds of billions here, and whoever threatens them there are petrels and laser overexposures)
      3. -1
        29 February 2024 00: 29
        You noticed correctly, except for one word “will be re-elected”.........
      4. 0
        2 March 2024 13: 08
        Nothing personal. Russians do not give the desired rate of return, since they require medicine, education and pensions and must be replaced by a less demanding workforce within 10-15 years. A longer planning period is not available to the Supreme Pasyuks.
    2. +17
      27 February 2024 07: 18
      Quote from: FoBoss_VM
      So why is this being done? To create the preconditions for social catastrophe and explosion

      I used to think the same thing, but now I don’t. There will be no “explosion”, there will just be a “catastrophe”. And migrants are just an integral part of this catastrophe that awaits us all ahead...
      It turned out that in six such places the concentration of apartments rented by guest workers is 20% or more.

      Yes, not 20%, but from 90% to 100%, and not “removed”, but acquired. And when their number becomes more than 25%, the locals “for some reason” immediately express a strong desire to move from there... There have been enclaves for a long time. It’s just that some people don’t know about them, while others stubbornly don’t want to notice. Now they want to formalize what already exists de facto de jure. Well, diaspora lawyers have to earn their fees...
      1. -2
        29 February 2024 07: 13
        Why don't Russians convert to Islam? Then the problem of demography and migrants will disappear by itself.
        1. +2
          29 February 2024 07: 16
          You just need to wait one or two generations, and Russian Christians, as a national minority, may even be paid benefits... Everything goes on as usual.
          And no one is interested in other people's demographic problems.
    3. +17
      27 February 2024 08: 30
      Vanya, you know who is investing and why, in 30 years the capitals of the Eref territory will be Maskvaabad and Peteroshkent, the surviving Slavs will huddle near the temples in bast shoes. thanks to our helmsman, by the way, the elections of our commander-in-chief are coming soon, don’t forget!
      1. +15
        27 February 2024 09: 13
        Quote: g0ryachevnn
        thanks to our helmsman, by the way, the elections of our commander-in-chief are coming soon, don’t forget!

        There is no need to harbor false illusions. The outcome of the election is a foregone conclusion. In Russia, unfortunately, there are no parties like Marie LePen’s National Front or Alternative for Germany. At one time, D. Rogozin worked in this field with the “Congress of Russian Communities,” but somehow faded away over time.
        The only famous personalities I can mention today who raise this topic are Pyotr Tolstoy and Ruslan Ostashko. Yes, Bastrykin sometimes “rings the bells.”
        In Russia there are no parties defending the interests of the people, and if they appear they will quickly merge into the marginal “Nazi” movement, which is unacceptable in our multinational country. Although almost all regions of the Russian Federation, including the national republics - Yakutia, Udmurtia, Tatarstan, Mari El, etc., are suffering from the influx of migrants.
        1. +3
          27 February 2024 12: 59
          In Russia, unfortunately, there are no parties like Marie LePen’s National Front or Alternative for Germany.
          United Russia has enough... up to its ears...
        2. 0
          29 February 2024 17: 58
          Sergey, I wrote that we don’t have elections, but Putin’s elections!! Rogozin started with the congress, then the Rodina party, which he merged and sold to the same thief as himself, Babakov, well, these three are who you rely on, all from Putin’s clip, so it’s unlikely as Comrade Sukhov said.
      2. +3
        27 February 2024 22: 39
        So that’s why there are more churches and schools, there will be a place to shelter
    4. +15
      27 February 2024 09: 23
      The police do not enter the ghetto with migrants at night. And even during the day, dozens of police officers arrive at once. It's a madhouse in the minds of politicians who propose this. Will they really make such a decision?
      1. +2
        29 February 2024 09: 11
        Will they really make such a decision?
        Necessarily. It benefits them. Both financially and as an instrument of pressure on the “local indigenous people”. And the fact that migrants start killing locals doesn’t bother them and the police don’t care; it’s more important to squeeze the locals. The quiet policy of exterminating and displacing locals, mostly Russians, has been going on for how many years. So why should she be stopped? Ask what the national composition of those fighting in the Northern Military District is, are there many newly minted citizens of the Russian Federation from Central Asia there?! I was especially impressed by the composition of the Akhmat battalion.
    5. +11
      27 February 2024 19: 07
      Quote from: FoBoss_VM
      That’s who put this idea into Governor Vorobyov’s head

      Yes, all of them, the authorities, understand perfectly well and that is why everyone does so. There is only one goal - the destruction of the Russians. For this purpose, migrants are imported from Central Asia and the Caucasus, for this purpose, everywhere you look in Latin, even the names of the equipment are not Russian. Anglicisms are being introduced into the language more and more, and this leads to the gradual destruction of the Russian language. In schools, even mathematics is “taught” according to different programs, not to mention history. All this is not an accident, not a tribute to fashion. This is all a deliberate, purposeful act.
      1. +2
        28 February 2024 14: 55
        From the history of Ancient Mesopotamia.
        The scheme of degeneration of the centers of civilization.
        Representatives of other tribes and clans gradually penetrate into a civilized and rich principality city with a more or less homogeneous composition: as slaves, workers used in hard work, servants, warriors, bodyguards, porters, then small and medium traders, criminal and semi-criminal elements ,,,
        Under the walls of the city there are nomadic camps of wild tribes, one way or another penetrating inside... over time, slaves who received freedom, workers, traders settle in cities with large families, multiply, warriors reach certain positions in the army or security, etc. – the percentage of “outsiders” becomes more and more, a period comes when it reaches a “critical mass” - and power passes into the hands of an alien element who brings his own language, traditions (“nepotism”, “nepotism”, the system of “baksheesh-bribes”, “compatriotism”, “clan-mafia”, the spread of moral norms and “commandments” only to relatives and the perception of the main indigenous people: a) a “cash cow”, b) a hostile tribe, etc.), while retaining part of the cultural achievements absorbed civilization by forcing the remaining intellectual, priestly and administrative circles of the original ethnic group to fulfill a new “social order” and serve the new government, which leads to a revision (revision) of political, ethnic history, mythology, etc. in favor of the new “ethnic group” and its rulers. The history of this “ethnic group” becomes more ancient at the expense of the history of the original ethnic group, some of the gods of the former mythology are given new names...
        The changes are not of a cardinal nature, for the reason that the cultural level of the new “ethnos” is, as a rule, primitive, it has almost nothing of its own to offer in return. Almost everything “new” for the new ethnos is being developed by intellectuals (priests-magi, chroniclers, astronomers, scientists, writers and poets ...) of the primary ethnos, before whom the choice is presented: either to “integrate” into a new society or death.
        The result is a “new culture” in the old place. And on the original priority mythology, writing, science, culture, many artificial, compilation-“cultural” layers are applied (example: the original myths of Sumer from the Flood to Shalmanasharru and the compilation “Old Testament” of the Jews from the same flood to King Solomon). The appearance of a “new civilization” is being created. Over time, the finders destroy the heritage they have inherited. Civilization is fading.
        D.Yu. Petukhov. History of the Russians.
        1. +1
          28 February 2024 15: 01
          Quote: kosopuz
          D.Yu. Petukhov. History of the Russians.

          D.Yu.Petukhov...Repeatedly spat upon here by "experts" of ancient history.
          1. +1
            28 February 2024 15: 03
            D.Yu.Petukhov...Repeatedly spat upon here by "experts" of ancient history.
            These are not "experts", but bots.
        2. -2
          29 February 2024 07: 07
          the percentage of “outsiders” is becoming larger, a period comes when it reaches a “critical mass”

          So modern Russians are the aliens who destroyed the Russian population?
  2. +17
    27 February 2024 05: 21
    If a ghetto is being built, it means someone needs it.
    1. +14
      27 February 2024 05: 36
      Quote: parusnik
      If a ghetto is being built, it means someone needs it

      Needed by those who bring them here
      1. +6
        27 February 2024 05: 42
        “Perhaps it is so necessary, it is so necessary that as a farewell we are given the autumn fire of falling leaves and the icy cover of silence... ... The abandonment of dreary drops, the fussy scattering of an umbrella, a tit with a cold plum falling from a branch onto the ice, November, captivated without a fight by the night's anticipation cold, a faceless swell above the water from the fear of blackening puddles." (c)
      2. +24
        27 February 2024 07: 00
        Quote: Dutchman Michel
        Needed by those who bring them here

        Or maybe those who import them should be taken there?
        1. +14
          27 February 2024 07: 21
          Quote: Stas157
          Or maybe ...

          What a pity that our desires do not coincide with our capabilities...
          1. -1
            27 February 2024 07: 49
            Quote: Doccor18

            What a pity that our desires do not coincide with our capabilities...

            If the desires to drink, eat, and fuck “without consequences” - then everything coincides perfectly.
            It's a pity that there are no other wishes....
        2. +3
          27 February 2024 07: 46
          Quote: Stas157
          Or maybe those who import them should be taken there?
          Or maybe they should all be given axes and saws and sent to the Krasnoyarsk Territory to cut down forests? wink
          1. +6
            27 February 2024 13: 57
            Quote: Dutchman Michel
            Or maybe they should all be given axes and saws and sent to the Krasnoyarsk Territory to cut down forests?

            They'll probably send you away. For extremism.
          2. +4
            27 February 2024 15: 41
            Quote: Dutchman Michel
            Or maybe they should all be given axes and saws and sent to the Krasnoyarsk Territory to cut down forests?

            In no case!
            And so the forests are shrinking. Give out a pick and a pick, and then continue according to the classics. fellow
          3. +4
            27 February 2024 19: 14
            It’s better to count grains of sand and stones in the mountains in the desert at home
          4. +5
            27 February 2024 21: 39
            Quote: Dutchman Michel
            Or maybe they should all be given axes and saws and sent to the Krasnoyarsk Territory to cut down forests?

            And what did the Krasnoyarsk region do wrong that everyone, this same one, you know who, should come to us?
        3. +5
          27 February 2024 11: 52
          Quote: Stas157
          Quote: Dutchman Michel
          Needed by those who bring them here

          Or maybe those who import them should be taken there?


          Great offer! Make a ghetto: migrants plus those who bring them and all fans of migration. Like to like! All the people should just go and catch them on the ruble and kopeck piece in Kotelniki!!
          1. 0
            28 February 2024 15: 08
            Quote from: newtc7
            Great offer!

            The offer is not just excellent, it is simply super-excellent! But it has one significant drawback - it is not feasible. It's a pity.
      3. +13
        27 February 2024 07: 44
        Needed by those who bring them here
        Most likely, those who need Russia only as an income. “These” are ready to sell everyone and everything!
  3. -36
    27 February 2024 05: 23
    In the Moscow region there are the same astronomical prices for housing under construction. As a Moscow Komsomol member himself writes, most likely it will be pre-fabricated housing for migrants; private business will still handle it. So much ado about nothing.
    1. +12
      27 February 2024 07: 16
      So much ado about nothing.
      Look at the Kotelnikov district. Moscowabad, however. And the housing is by no means made of cardboard.
      1. -25
        27 February 2024 07: 36
        The author gave a link to an article in Moskovsky Komsomolets. It clearly says about prefabricated housing. With an option - it’s possible. They created all this crying of Muscovites about migrants for themselves - by buying investment housing. In Sochi they did something different, setting up Olympic housing after the Olympics and raising prices for housing and cut off migrants from it at prices. The result is no problems. Now again they will clean up the migrants before the International Youth Festival and this is the umpteenth time. lol Life is calmer with Siberians. It seems that Sochi has become the visiting capital of the Chelyabinsk region. The car numbers speak about this.
        1. +11
          27 February 2024 08: 29
          The author provided a link to an article in Moskovsky Komsomolets.
          This publication has long smacked of yellowness with hype on popular topics. I'm talking about a specific area that I sometimes drive past. The main lobbyist for migrants in the Moscow region is Governor Vorobyov. Probably not for nothing.
          1. -13
            27 February 2024 08: 39
            And how did the migrants buy Kotelniki? Okay, Maryina Roshcha, I was there more than once while traveling abroad in hotel complexes, and in the 2000s - it turned out that visitors from Southeast Asia were in charge there, I had to trudge to Sheremetyevo 2 with my things, the day was lost.
            1. +4
              27 February 2024 20: 24
              How did migrants buy Kotelniki?
              I have no idea. Probably, it would not have been possible without the sponsorship of someone very interested in migrants.
  4. +14
    27 February 2024 05: 32
    Who will build for migrants? Yes, the migrants themselves. Sebastien Pereira, sorry, that is, Marat Khusnullin, is on topic.
  5. +9
    27 February 2024 05: 32
    Our migrants are divided into two categories. Some come to earn money here and leave. Others to settle in Russia. If Lavrov said that a renaissance of Islam is taking place in Russia, then I don’t think that measures will be taken to reduce migration.
    1. +8
      27 February 2024 11: 29
      Quote: Nikolay Malyugin
      A renaissance of Islam is taking place in Russia

      Very similar... Recently in Korolev (Moscow region) a certain council of veterans awarded little Tajiks for successfully studying the Koran...
      https://dzen.ru/a/ZdxLTYhLEDJ2Rdhx
  6. +16
    27 February 2024 05: 35
    Neighborhoods for migrants – arguments for and against

    Only against! There should be no other arguments!
  7. +34
    27 February 2024 05: 56
    Not a single candidate for the Presidential post in 2024. did not raise the topic of migrants in his advertising appeals.

    Creating separate places of residence for migrants is not a mistake, it is a crime.
    The provision by the Russian Government of land and conditions for the future creation of an “Albanian enclave” on Russian territory is a disaster in the near future.

    No residence permits for migrants. Just a watch. Finished work at the site - back to his homeland.
    The work experience of migrants in the UAE will help Russian authorities.

    Foreign workers in the UAE.
    ...About 10 million people live in the country today, with migrants making up the vast majority...
    ...It is almost impossible to obtain UAE citizenship. If a foreigner’s visa expires or he loses his job, he will have to leave the country. Even the spouse of a UAE citizen is not entitled to citizenship. Only common children can count on him.

    Employment requirements for expats
    Some requirements for working in the country and the opportunity to have a decent salary:

    Age – from 18 to 30 years. A qualified specialist can count on a decent job even at 35-40 years old. Exceptions in which companies hire highly qualified professionals aged 45-55 years also occur, but only occasionally.

    Knowledge of English. The better a candidate’s command of English, the greater the choice of vacancies. A good knowledge of Arabic is not necessary.

    You can find a job with basic English, and even if you only speak Russian. But wages will be significantly lower.

    Pleasant appearance. Since the jobs will typically be in the service sector, looking good is important.

    Diploma of completed education. If you are a highly qualified specialist, you will need proof of your diploma. For example, if you are a doctor, you can count on a good job, since such specialists are always in demand, but the selection of candidates is quite strict.
    https://immotrading.ru/about/articles/trudoustroystvo-dlya-inostrantsev-v-oae/
    1. +13
      27 February 2024 06: 21
      Experience of migrants in the UAE
      The UAE, Russian officials are not decree, we like to walk on rake, on strangers on our own.
    2. +26
      27 February 2024 07: 43
      the creation of an “Albanian enclave” on Russian territory is a disaster
      The example of Kosovo is a clear confirmation of this. This is what is called “letting the goat into the garden.” An absolutely unacceptable policy.
    3. +15
      27 February 2024 08: 40
      Not a single candidate for the Presidential post in 2024. did not raise the topic of migrants in his advertising appeals.

      A little off topic, but okay. Advertising videos of the current, I beg your pardon, candidates resemble a rehearsal for a school amateur club. Such is the association.
    4. +11
      27 February 2024 14: 56
      Not a single candidate for the Presidential post in 2024. did not raise the topic of migrants in his advertising appeals

      There is a candidate for the presidential post in RussiaЫ??
  8. +8
    27 February 2024 06: 12
    Migrants are a global problem in more or less developed countries, be it the USA or Europe. A good and reliable tool for destabilizing society... And if for so many years the problem cannot be solved, then there really is some kind of plan. In the Russian Federation, they show on TV what is happening in the West in this regard, distracting the electorate from their own problems with creeping migration... But decisions have been made for a long time at the very top and, given the super-centralization of power in the Russian Federation, none of the local kings will dare to act independently or initiative... But it would be interesting to know who is in the shadows behind these decisions bully
  9. +12
    27 February 2024 06: 14
    Why does anyone suddenly think that we have and will have things differently than our “partners”?
    The President has repeatedly stated - and proved with deeds - that we are “our own people, we are bourgeois”. We failed to adopt the good, and why should we, but there are many wonderful capitalist countries - from Cote di Voire to Honduras. Some advanced elements can be taken from France - the same migrants.
    “The prerequisites for a national catastrophe” - there is the Russian Guard; it will protect whoever is needed.
    National composition? This is how our “non-brothers” and I successfully assimilate each other to the earth, therefore - to maintain balance - they bring real brothers from the Caucasus and Central Asia.
    Love and be happy.
  10. +11
    27 February 2024 06: 44
    His works will live forever.
    1. +7
      27 February 2024 08: 01
      He hasn't read Dostoevsky.
  11. +5
    27 February 2024 06: 45
    Quote from: FoBoss_VM
    Any artiodactyl can understand how such national ghettos end up; there are many striking examples. So why is this being done? To create the preconditions for a social catastrophe and explosion.

    The worst thing is that they don’t think that far. They solve the immediate important problem for which they are responsible using the most accessible method. All other side effects are not their responsibility and therefore are of no interest to them.
    1. +7
      27 February 2024 07: 10
      what an explosion there is))) Navruz is coming soon, look how many people will gather and who can stop them))
    2. +7
      27 February 2024 08: 32
      They solve the nearest important problem using the most accessible method,

      If only this were the case... But in fact, there are only false speeches, and deeds that are directly opposite to those stated...
    3. +4
      27 February 2024 14: 17
      They don’t think so because for them this is not a house where they will also live later, for them this is a place to earn money and that’s all, to earn more money, but what will happen next when the opportunity to earn money disappears to one place.
  12. +12
    27 February 2024 06: 51
    Why in our country, if there is an initiative, then it is definitely just another stupidity? Is it really not smart enough to see what this led to in France? Just as they are going to control entire areas of migrants, the police will be afraid to go there. Have you decided to create a hotbed of drugs and weapons?
    1. +4
      27 February 2024 07: 06
      In the USA - Harlem.
      It is clear that advice comes from advisers.
  13. +5
    27 February 2024 06: 52
    . The situation with migrants in Russia is not too different from the situation in France.

    What do you want, like in France? One geopolitician asked a rhetorical question. And he did it his way. At the same time, no one was interested in the opinion of the people themselves.
  14. +2
    27 February 2024 07: 04
    Why does everyone here think that the Russian authorities are making mistakes, “repeating negative experience”?
    I think that the USSR is against the Russians and the actions of the Russian authorities fit well into this direction
    1. +8
      27 February 2024 08: 41
      Not yours.
      Under the USSR, they were very scrupulous about this; there were only Soviet people by nationality and all customs were recognized as harmful and eradicated.
      Full-blown nationalism appeared in the USSR when they began to support the “identity of indigenous peoples,” and this is a direct path to the national idea, self-determination, local governance, and ultimately the collapse of international society.
      1. +6
        27 February 2024 09: 18
        "Under the USSR, they were very scrupulous about this; there were only Soviet people by nationality"
        Are you sure you lived in the USSR? in the Soviet passport there was a nationality column, which, unfortunately, was lost along with the USSR
        1. -3
          27 February 2024 09: 32
          Quote: ZloyKot
          in the Soviet passport there was a nationality column, which, unfortunately, was lost along with the USSR

          And what was the use of it? What is the nationality of Sergei Sergeevich Sergei, my friend? It was written in his USSR passport that he was Russian....
          1. +1
            27 February 2024 10: 45
            They will hit you not on your passport, but on your face!
            1. -1
              27 February 2024 11: 16
              Quote: Valery Mamai
              They will hit you not on your passport, but on your face!

              My opponent cried a lot about the nationality column
            2. 0
              5 March 2024 22: 09
              That's for sure - but who and for whose reasons?
  15. +5
    27 February 2024 07: 04
    This cannot be done under any circumstances; this will be a state within a state.
    1. +7
      27 February 2024 07: 16
      So you're implying that someone is planting a bomb?
      1. +6
        27 February 2024 08: 03
        They want to deceive someone again wink
      2. +1
        27 February 2024 08: 47
        Let's just say this is a very delicate question.
        Russia is a multinational state, naturally the land will not be empty - some will leave, then others will come.
      3. 0
        5 March 2024 22: 13
        someone someone is bad of course to be stupid especially since...!
  16. +7
    27 February 2024 07: 06
    it’s time for Muscovites to become more tolerant and more tolerant))) short skirts, don’t wear your face, don’t show your makeup, it’s not bright at all, you can learn Arabic, it will only broaden your horizons and deepen the study of ancient Eastern culture, which will add bright colors to the friendship of peoples and multi-vector politics, but who’s against))?
    1. +2
      27 February 2024 07: 33
      Judging by the election results over 30 years, Muscovites were least more tolerant than everyone else. Where everyone is always 150% FOR.

      Muscovites probably lost. Now "like everyone else..."
  17. +13
    27 February 2024 07: 08
    At first, those in power told us that we were Russian lazy people and alcoholics. Then it turned out that this is a different culture, why should they drink if they have “grass”. The fact that they are supposedly workers. For some reason, all taxi drivers and delivery workers are migrants. There are still not enough workers because migrants do not want to work. And what kind of “five-year plan construction” is this in Russia, that it is necessary to import migrants?
    1. +4
      27 February 2024 09: 45
      Quote: Gardamir
      And what kind of “five-year plan construction” is this in Russia, that it is necessary to import migrants?

      What are you talking about, now construction is the driver of growth for our entire economy, “salvation”, everything is supported by the construction site... Here, high-rise buildings are growing like mushrooms after the rain, they are building up any free nickle of 20x20 meters, the second stadium box is being completed, already a third is planned...
  18. +3
    27 February 2024 07: 31
    Many screaming patriots have divorced in recent years, for this, for this, for that, their generation will die out and will remain assimilated, but to them Russia is an empty phrase, they will hand over everything to everyone! The main thing is to have a place to pray on the asphalt. And here you are all about some kind of unity, cohesion. How many “of them” rushed home when the mob started? Why don't they protect us from external threats? Because nothing threatens them, they are doing well, continue to protect the primates.
    1. +9
      27 February 2024 07: 46
      Quote: Vadim S
      Why don't they protect us from external threats?

      They themselves are worse than any external threat.

      Rome could withstand any external threat, but could not cope with its barbarians within. Our history buff at the helm had to go through things like this!
      1. +7
        27 February 2024 08: 28
        Our history buff at the helm had to go through things like this!

        The history buff is left “at the helm”, because he is most convenient for the globalists, he does not solve anything...
      2. +1
        27 February 2024 14: 22
        A steering wheel enthusiast could easily have taken a walk when this happened.
  19. +3
    27 February 2024 07: 31
    The position of migration lobbyists in Russia is indeed very strong, since they are supported at the highest level.
    I would like to know what this “high level” is. Where is he located, in the government, or maybe the AP? The President is the most important of the main ones in the Russian Federation, or what? But on the eve of its elections, VVP decided to distance itself from the unpopular topic. “Russians come first” recently said, which is exactly what they want to hear from him exactly Russians, and who considers themselves to be them, of whom in the Russian Federation still the majority. Well, our president very sensitively feels the aspirations of the Russians, the main thing is to promise... and then we’ll see. Where is the whipping boy? Here he is - Khusnullin Marat, Deputy Prime Minister. He is the one who is muddying the waters.
    In his opinion, Russia needs migrants because they work more and receive less. Moreover, the salaries of guest workers are already higher than the average income of Russians in the regions. Khusnullin believes that civilized organized migration will solve the problem. “Let's face it, a migrant works 50% more than a Russian and receives 30% less. Let's make a decision and work without migrants. But then let’s bring the average salary for construction workers to the national average, let’s increase labor productivity, and this is a systemic investment,” said the Deputy Prime Minister.
    Interested to know whose ideas he voices? Probably someone is advising, consulting, but the president is not in the know. Yes, that doesn't happen.
    1. +12
      27 February 2024 07: 45
      Previously, the question arose - who at the “top” is acting against the Russian state, but now - at least there is someone at these very “top” who is for Russia...
  20. 0
    27 February 2024 07: 57
    In the History of the Peoples of the World there is only one justification for its troubles: occupation by an enemy army. And judging by the Bible, occupation is given to the people for their sins.
    Therefore, we must say: “thank you, it could have been worse.”
  21. +4
    27 February 2024 08: 00
    Governor of the Moscow Region Andrei Vorobyov held a meeting with representatives of large businesses, officials and law enforcement officers, at which a decision was made to build special residential areas to accommodate migrants.
    They are all en masse, representatives of the fifth column, probably or foreign agents, but the president doesn’t even know smile
    1. +2
      27 February 2024 14: 26
      Well, there isn’t a bandage on his sleeve with the inscription “foreign agent” so he doesn’t know, but if there was, he’d know all of them laughing
      1. +3
        27 February 2024 15: 50
        Now do you understand why the firemen are looking for the fifth column and foreign agents, liberals, the police are looking for them, they are looking for them and cannot find them? laughing
  22. +14
    27 February 2024 08: 16
    While on all channels we laugh at Biden, while they scare us with gays from Europe, we ourselves have some kind of wild game going on, but that’s all for these people. But with us everything is fine, everyone will die, and we will go straight to heaven. And the most offensive thing is that no one will save you and me, the country is like the Titanic, and there are few places on the boats, and the mob, alas, will not get places on them.
  23. -18
    27 February 2024 08: 23
    It's a bad decision, but it's a decision.

    In the context of the gradual extinction of the indigenous peoples of Russia, primarily the Russians, it is necessary to organize a long-term population replacement program so that it takes place systematically and without social upheaval.
    1. +14
      27 February 2024 08: 25

      In the context of the gradual extinction of the indigenous peoples of Russia, primarily the Russians, it is necessary to organize a long-term population replacement program so that it proceeds systematically

      We kill ourselves, and we also care about the comfort of the invaders... Just to continue to sleep sweetly and eat deliciously...
      1. -5
        27 February 2024 10: 42
        “We kill ourselves, and we also care about the comfort of the invaders... Just to continue to sleep sweetly and eat deliciously...”

        Not this way.

        A natural process is underway, some peoples are replaced by others, perhaps with the same name. The authorities are obliged to take care of the existence of the country - and they do as best they can. She can't stop the extinction of a people, can she? This means we have to regulate the process of replacing it. There is no population growth due to births - others will be brought in.

        If we can't do it ourselves, we'll buy it.
    2. +5
      27 February 2024 14: 28
      Then let them replace you first, but I don’t want to be replaced.
      1. 0
        28 February 2024 10: 00
        “Then let them replace you first, but I don’t want to be replaced.”

        No desire required.

        I don’t want to either, and I won’t - I just won’t live to see it. The process will take decades or more.
  24. +11
    27 February 2024 08: 33
    The current migration policy was formed and promoted by the enemies of Russia.
    1. -2
      27 February 2024 12: 41
      “The current migration policy was formed and promoted by the enemies of Russia.”

      And the migration policy of France, Germany and the USA was shaped by the enemies of France, Germany and the USA?
      1. +3
        27 February 2024 14: 13
        Quote: S.Z.
        And the migration policy of France, Germany and the USA was shaped by the enemies of France, Germany and the USA?

        Yes. But this does not apply to the USA.
        1. -1
          28 February 2024 10: 02
          "Yes. But this does not apply to the USA."

          Why?
          The US coefficient is 1.64 for 2020. They also die out and also bring in migrants.

          This means that the bottom also has enemies!!!
          1. 0
            28 February 2024 12: 23
            Quote: S.Z.
            The US coefficient is 1.64 for 2020. They also die out and also bring in migrants.

            Their entire country is made up of migrants.
            1. -1
              28 February 2024 13: 20
              "Their entire country is made up of migrants."

              And what? A second generation migrant is already a native resident. Anglo-Saxons live in Britain - Germans, by the way. Migrants too?

              In the place where my Voronezh stands, 400 years ago there were no Russians. Am I an occupier now? Do you want to rename Kaliningrad?
      2. +1
        27 February 2024 16: 27
        Quote: S.Z.
        And the migration policy of France, Germany and the USA was shaped by the enemies of France, Germany and the USA?

        Is the USA a friend of France and Germany? Funny...
        And why are you sure that immigration policy is harming the United States? Even without taking into account the fact that it sucks intellectual human resources from all over the world, for now, at least, the Mexicans do not pose a threat to the statehood of the United States, if only because of the Christian religion.
        1. -1
          28 February 2024 10: 03
          It’s strange, the migration policy of the United States and other countries is the same, but it harms everyone, while the United States helps.

          This is illogical.

          "Nobody will believe you." (With)

          Let us also suck intellectual resources, which for some reason, on the contrary, are sucked from us by others.
          1. +1
            28 February 2024 10: 06
            Quote: S.Z.
            It’s strange, the migration policy of the United States and other countries is the same, but it harms everyone, while the United States helps.

            Well, if you don’t see a difference in the quality of migrants, then of course they are the same...
            1. -1
              28 February 2024 13: 23
              “Well, if you don’t see any difference in the quality of migrants, then of course they are the same...”

              I see.
              The quality of migration is a reflection of the economic situation, which attracts “smart” people to the United States, but in our country it’s the other way around.
              But the problem of low birth rates for the United States and Russia is the same, and does not depend on the economic situation.

              That is, you are not against replacing our people, but you just want smart people to replace us?
          2. 0
            28 February 2024 10: 22
            Quote: S.Z.
            Let us also suck intellectual resources, which for some reason, on the contrary, are sucked from us by others.

            I don't mind. Who are the others? Definitely not France and Germany anymore. Is migration policy to blame (in part) for this?
            1. -1
              28 February 2024 13: 25
              “Let us also suck intellectual resources, which for some reason, on the contrary, are sucked from us by others.”

              I don't mind. Who are the others? Definitely not France and Germany anymore. Is migration policy to blame (in part) for this?

              No, not migration policy, but the economy, which reflects the economic situation.

              From villages they go to cities, from cities to Moscow, from there to abroad, and this is how we filter out. The same thing happens with countries.
              1. 0
                28 February 2024 16: 03
                Quote: S.Z.
                I see.
                The quality of migration is a reflection of the economic situation, which attracts “smart” people to the United States, but in our country it’s the other way around.

                Well, different situations require different approaches. And if they use one approach for different situations and to the detriment of it, then either idiots or enemies are doing it.

                Quote: S.Z.
                That is, you are not against replacing our people, but you just want smart people to replace us?
                Wow, that's not even trolling, it's a cheap attempt to shift attention from an uncomfortable topic to a completely different topic. Cheap...

                Quote: S.Z.
                No, not migration policy, but the economy, which reflects the economic situation.
                And a flawed economy is created by a flawed migration policy that is hostile to the indigenous population.

                Quote: S.Z.
                From villages they go to cities, from cities to Moscow, from there to abroad, and this is how we filter out. The same thing happens with countries.
                Then why don’t people from Central Asia go straight to the USA, huh? Well, save up a couple thousand and go to Asashai. But migration policy doesn’t allow it. So that.
  25. +8
    27 February 2024 08: 36
    An enclave with ethnic hangouts, where the police will not come... although it is possible to make the police there ethnic, why waste time on trifles, and at the same time introduce a different language, Asho?

    Does the governor think this is a good idea? Maybe we need someone smarter or more honest than this?
  26. +1
    27 February 2024 08: 39
    Just as they began to bend the Russians under the communists, they continue to do so. It's time to return to the roots and stop being ashamed of the word Russian, replacing it with the faceless one - Russian.
    1. +3
      27 February 2024 14: 15
      Quote: Totor5
      Just as they began to bend the Russians under the communists, they continue to do so.

      Under the communists, Uzbeks picked cotton at home.
  27. -4
    27 February 2024 08: 54
    Some media outlets approved this initiative. In particular, Moskovsky Komsomolets writes that

    “In the future it will be good for everyone:

    That's why I hated the Komsomol.
  28. +9
    27 February 2024 09: 23
    Migrants from Tajikistan come to live off child benefits: on average in Russia it is 15 thousand per child under 17 years old per month per month for those who work “in menial” jobs, and these are the majority there.

    in the North Caucasus District, the number of marriages decreased by 9,2%, and divorces increased by 24,1%. The peak was recorded in Chechnya (an increase in divorces by 64,6% with a decrease in marriages by 56,6%), Dagestan (an increase in divorces by 21,8%) and in Karachay-Cherkessia (by 17%).
    If the money spent on the “poor family” - 1.98 trillion. Rub. they just distributed it evenly, the payments would have amounted to 67 thousand for each child per year, which, you see, is not at all little.

    Personally, I know nurses and teachers who did not return to work after returning from maternity leave, since this would lead to a decrease in family income in cases where the spouse worked menially or was divorced. Hence the shortage of personnel. Citizens with several children are incentivized with rubles to go into informal employment.

    I believe that our Ministry of Labor of the Russian Federation and the Social Fund of the Russian Federation, headed by the Spanish billionaire Golikova, are doing more harm than any of the hostile structures.
    I think she will receive (or secretly receive) awards like the “best German” Gorbachev.
    1. Aag
      +3
      27 February 2024 18: 15
      Quote: Ivan Seversky
      Migrants from Tajikistan come to live off child benefits: on average in Russia it is 15 thousand per child under 17 years old per month per month for those who work “in menial” jobs, and these are the majority there.

      in the North Caucasus District, the number of marriages decreased by 9,2%, and divorces increased by 24,1%. The peak was recorded in Chechnya (an increase in divorces by 64,6% with a decrease in marriages by 56,6%), Dagestan (an increase in divorces by 21,8%) and in Karachay-Cherkessia (by 17%).
      If the money spent on the “poor family” - 1.98 trillion. Rub. they just distributed it evenly, the payments would have amounted to 67 thousand for each child per year, which, you see, is not at all little.

      Personally, I know nurses and teachers who did not return to work after returning from maternity leave, since this would lead to a decrease in family income in cases where the spouse worked menially or was divorced. Hence the shortage of personnel. Citizens with several children are incentivized with rubles to go into informal employment.

      I believe that our Ministry of Labor of the Russian Federation and the Social Fund of the Russian Federation, headed by the Spanish billionaire Golikova, are doing more harm than any of the hostile structures.
      I think she will receive (or secretly receive) awards like the “best German” Gorbachev.

      Perhaps, - you best formulated everything - that was ripening in the remnants of the brain - that I wanted to convey to subscribers (in the term) "Vo"!
      Thank you!...
  29. +7
    27 February 2024 09: 30
    “In the long term, it will be good for everyone: both the employee, who is just a stone’s throw away from work, and the employer, who will not have to sit around empty-handed when the employee finds a simpler vacancy. And so the employee will actually be tied to the place. After all, his bosses give him not only a salary, but also housing.”

    The employer needs to be sent with work to a place where these workers have nowhere to go - to distant Uryukistans. Let them invest there, and not create problems for the residents of Russia with their beloved guest workers.
    It just seems to me that there are no fools among the business community to invest in those republics. They are well aware that they will have to face the local realities of corruption and criminal clan groups with the subsequent loss of investments. So they drag them here, where they STILL rule together with the Russian power elite. But this is only for now... This riffraff lives one day at a time. Make money here and now, but at least the grass won’t grow there. Just like they hid their money in the West and everything was fine for the time being, and then... OOPS! The same thing, when the time comes, will happen in Russia. am
  30. +5
    27 February 2024 11: 13
    This problem, which is turning into a tragedy of the indigenous population, can only be solved by the emergence of a new political and economic entity in the country, which will economically and politically destroy the ethnic mafias and their “lobbyists”, force all “strangers” to leave for their own countries, and force our youth to work, If you want citizenship, serve in the army or alternative civilian service in construction, street cleaning, low-skilled vacancies in industrial production, and social and cultural services. With the implementation of an accompanying serious social, cultural and financial policy to support the Russian young family, AS A NEW BRAND IN THE COUNTRY. When having a family and many children will be a real, well-paid job for women, and, in general, very honorable and economically beneficial for men. But for this, real public power must appear and take shape, relying on its production, engineering, and infrastructure enterprises, and organizations of small and medium-sized collective businesses, generating the economic and political interests of the Russian population IN THE FIGHT FOR THE FUTURE OF THEIR CHILDREN. In my opinion, there is no alternative to this other than the collapse and destruction of Russia in ethnic and religious wars. The regime of domination of private property by the financial and commercial oligarchy does not need Russians as a subject of economics and politics today.
    1. -6
      27 February 2024 11: 33
      Quote: Oleg Plenkin
      our youth will be obliged to work,

      And the youth WANTS work?
      Quote: Oleg Plenkin
      public power, relying on its production, engineering, and infrastructure enterprises, and organizations of small and medium-sized collective businesses,

      Just don’t forget that
      Quote: Oleg Plenkin
      When having a family and many children will be the most real thing, well paid work for women, and, in general, very honorable,
      - this from funds your "small and medium-sized business". On whose neck you put it a little earlier - " youth obliged to work" ...
      How tired of these “for all the good against all the bad” already?
      1. +5
        27 February 2024 11: 45
        There is a principle: - Do you criticize? Offer! What do you offer? Until the population has economic interests, it will not have political interests to promote and protect them. As long as the population is poor or downright poor, they will wait for social assistance - “handouts” from the rich and believe in sweet fairy tales on TV before every election. I want the state-forming ethnic group to form THEIR production, engineering and infrastructure enterprises, and collective private property organizations, establish THEIR cooperative ties, and, through economic interests, participate in politics in their district, city, and region. He influenced tax and socio-economic policies throughout the country. Including migration policy. What about today? The poor and impoverished population sits and blinks at the fact that the regime is importing millions of “strangers”. Your comment is strange.
        1. -5
          27 February 2024 12: 03
          Quote: Oleg Plenkin
          I wantso that the state-forming ethnic group forms ITS

          I'm embarrassed to ask - what do you mean? done for this " I want!!"?
          Apparently you built a factory or are you sowing a couple of hundred thousand hectares with grain?
          They gave jobs to a couple of thousand people?
          А slogans level "I want..." or for all the good against all the bad!!" here anyone can push -
          Quote: Oleg Plenkin
          Your comment is strange.
          1. +8
            27 February 2024 12: 21
            Yes, I WANT THIS, I write and talk about it all the time. It all starts with casual communication). As for factories or hundreds of hectares of sown grain, I can tell you that for the last thirty years, out of my 55 years, I have been running the “squirrel cages” of PRIVATE OTHERS’ BUSINESSES, like many hired specialists. And the more profit the owners received, the more they put in their pockets or took them offshore. But in my life and the lives of the same “technical” specialists, nothing changed. You can even die rotating other people's squirrel cages, but the rich get richer and the poor get more numerous. But the poor or beggars cannot influence the economy, much less domestic and foreign policy. Because without market-profitable collective private property, self-organization and self-government, the ordinary, ordinary population are JUST STATISTICS, who will continue to be robbed, robbed and deprived of a future. Your comment is really strange. You just cling to words, but in fact, offer NOTHING
            1. +4
              27 February 2024 13: 06
              Quote: Oleg Plenkin
              I WANT THIS

              And I want vodka, women and money... Moreover, you can even give vodka and women in money.
              Quote: Oleg Plenkin
              ordinary, ordinary population - JUST STATISTICS

              So it was, is and will be. Power is always for itself. The rest is for her on a residual basis. And it’s very good if, according to the residual principle, there is a fair amount left. A good example is the UAE. There are wise sheikhs there. And they themselves are fabulously rich and the population feels quite wonderful.
              The state as such was created by the strong in order to consolidate property inequality and protect the minority that is in power from the majority, which are statists.

              In general, your desires are understandable, logical and, on the whole, true. But this happens in an ideal world. This doesn't happen in the real world.
              1. +3
                27 February 2024 13: 21
                What is ideology? This is knowing how to work with ideas). But any, even the most idealistic concept of existence, has strict and sometimes very cruel material boundaries. But everything begins in the world of ideas, and the material “earth” is inherited by the right of the strong. If this had not happened, then there would have been no revolutions, no redistribution of property, no formation of new ruling estates and classes. But since we do not live on a desert island, and are surrounded by ancient and strong civilizations, therefore, it is vitally necessary for us to develop ourselves, otherwise alien hyenas and wolves will come to our bears, guarding “their taiga,” and “eat” them if they will rely, in their struggle for subjectivity, on thieves, swindlers and parasites, and not on the producing layers of the country's population. A hundred years ago it was the proletariat, but today it is the educated and qualified petty-bourgeois strata of city dwellers and rural owners, inclined towards collective corporate business, cooperation, self-government and self-development. THE COUNTRY HAS BECOME DIFFERENT. If the “bears” don’t want to see this, they will lose the country(.

                PS It is impossible to force the authorities to think.
                It is impossible to force power to be shared.
                It is impossible to choose your power.
                It is only possible to become power. Power in their class, economic and political interests.
                1. +3
                  27 February 2024 13: 34
                  And again, you are right.
                  Quote: Oleg Plenkin
                  If the “bears” don’t want to see this, they will lose the country(

                  These bears are 70+ years old. Even if they want something else, they want it out of inertia. But they simply can’t do much anymore.
                  Everyone can see this in their older colleagues, and some can see it in themselves, like me, for example.
                  When I started working, everything was interesting, new things were perceived, swallowed, processed, and there was constant growth in my specialty. I went to some courses, debated on forums, contributed some ideas, etc.
                  After 40 years, attenuation begins, and by 50, the majority experience such a phenomenon as “hell no, don’t touch me, Herods, let me live until retirement in peace without these innovations of yours”...
                  1. 0
                    27 February 2024 13: 43
                    In your or my “subjective” life, no matter how we treat it, there is an objective foundation. That is, in domestic and foreign policy you can ONLY rely on the RESISTANCE OF THE STRONG. And the poor and beggars are not helpers, not defenders, and not even partners for the “bears”. The country, property, assets and capital MUST BELONG TO ALL WORKERS, NOT JUST THEM, and the thieves, swindlers and parasites who serve them.

                    PS Either a welfare state or oligarchic domination. The choice is yours.
            2. 0
              27 February 2024 21: 39
              Quote: Oleg Plenkin
              Yes, I want this,

              Quote: Oleg Plenkin
              PRIVATE OTHER BUSINESSES,

              Quote: Oleg Plenkin
              the ordinary population are JUST STATISTICS, who will continue to be robbed, robbed and deprived of their future.

              Quote: Oleg Plenkin
              Because without market-profitable collective private property,

              Quote: Oleg Plenkin
              Your comment is really strange

              Unlike you, I understand that in MARKET COLLECTIVE PRIVATE PROPERTY, in an hour there will be someone who will do the rest of the “colleftif” as he sees fit.
              And after 24 hours you AGAIN will
              Quote: Oleg Plenkin
              I'm rocking squirrel cages
              .
              And you will again be a hired specialist.
              And even in the quiet USSR, the director of the locomotive building plant in Novocherkassk could say to people like you, “Eat liver pies!”

              Although it didn’t really depend on him either - Moscow raised the standards and she was just above her knees - “technical specialists” bark there or silently eat pies. With liver....

              Your naivety (and 7 other people) is amazing
              1. -1
                27 February 2024 23: 09
                And I am amazed by your manic desire to make idiots out of people. Or dark and uneducated serfs(... The entire history of the cooperative movement in Europe shows that the collective
                small and medium private property is a real alternative and counterbalance to the private property of large industrialists and landowners. And you will tell the children in the yard that there will be some, but not me. There is a board and council of a cooperative or collective private property, where anyone who spits on the collective will QUICKLY be shown the DOOR! In general, human social instincts are very clearly visible in collective work. Or their absence. So you will tell fairy tales to anyone, but not to me. EAT YOURSELF YOUR NAUSEA AND LIVER TILL YOU VOMIT!)))
                1. 0
                  28 February 2024 06: 01
                  Quote: Oleg Plenkin
                  The entire history of the cooperative movement in Europe shows that the collective
                  small and medium private property is a real alternative and counterbalance to the private property of large industrialists and landowners

                  Quote: Oleg Plenkin
                  QUICKLY POINT TO THE DOOR!

                  Quote: Oleg Plenkin
                  EAT YOURSELF UP YOURSELF WITH LIVER TO VOMIT!)))

                  Well, since you are determined and even historical experience is not your guide, go ahead and create powerful People's cooperatives!!!
                  Z.y
                  Quote: Oleg Plenkin
                  Tales you will tell anyone, but not me.
                  I would rather call it nonsense, but it’s indecent to call your dream that way. Let it be a fairy tale...
                  1. -1
                    28 February 2024 12: 25
                    What is your historical experience? Do you mean the “history” of the cooperative movement in the USSR? When did a glass of sweet soda cost 4 kopecks in the store, and 24 for the “cooperatives”? So this is not a story, but a very short moment in it. The cooperative movement, like any collective property, develops in a specific power and political economic environment. What happened then, in the late 80s and early 90s? Youth cooperatives, cooperatives in GENERAL, NTTM centers, with a slight movement of the hand of the people of the party, economic and Komsomol nomenklatura, turned into commercial banks, private businesses and joint-stock companies that have nothing to do with the working people of the country. And this fact, in itself, without a targeted policy of power in the USSR, does not prove anything. They did not NEED collective private property and was VERY DANGEROUS. Since it gives rise, in the long term, to a petty-bourgeois layer of the wealthy population that does not need social handouts from the nouveau riche, a NEW POLITECONOMIC SUBJECT, prone to horizontal cooperation and self-government! And this, in the long term, led to the formation of a real middle political class, which could become a very strong competitor to the emerging financial and commercial oligarchy. But killing people don’t need competitors. THEY ONLY NEED RICH AND POOR!

                    PS It seems that when you speak, you are delusional.
                    1. 0
                      28 February 2024 12: 52
                      Oh how.....
                      Quote: Oleg Plenkin
                      What is your historical experience? Do you mean the “history” of the cooperative movement in the USSR? When did a glass of sweet soda cost 4 kopecks in the store, and 24 for the “cooperatives”? T

                      Since your experience is limited to cooperatives in 1985 and later, let me remind you that the cooperative movement in Russia existed in the Russian Empire, existed ALL the existence of the USSR and exists now.
                      If the historical experience of 150 years is not enough for you, excuse me, this is not for me.

                      Quote: Oleg Plenkin
                      PS It seems that when you speak, you are delusional.
                      - sorry, I can’t call the orderlies for you - I don’t know your address
                      1. -1
                        28 February 2024 14: 19
                        Well, in essence, there’s nothing to say? For example, I essentially wrote everything. That collective private property, including production, engineering, infrastructure and agricultural cooperatives, operates in specific political and economic conditions created by government regimes. And if it is dangerous for these regimes, they destroy it.

                        PS For those who are "on an armored train". That is, for you (.
                      2. 0
                        28 February 2024 14: 55
                        Quote: Oleg Plenkin
                        And if it is dangerous for these regimes, they destroy it.

                        All The regimes that existed on the territory of Russia for 150 years were deeply ... in favor of cooperatives.
                        That's why they existed all along
                        Quote: Oleg Plenkin
                        PS For those who are "on an armored train". That is, for you (.
                        what are you declare beautiful slogans - it was obvious even in your first post.
                        The fact that you are not doing anything to fulfill your slogans is obvious from the same post.
                      3. -1
                        28 February 2024 15: 54
                        Now it becomes clear to me that you know nothing about the cooperative movement in the USSR(. You are not even enough for “slogans”. And this is also obvious. Pichalka(...

                        PS People who “spit crap” in the comments and offer NOTHING are either idiots, or parasites and parasites.
    2. +2
      27 February 2024 14: 10
      For any person, self-realization is important, not the number of children, so your path is not the right one,
      1. -1
        27 February 2024 15: 50
        I agree with you. But each citizen has his own self-realization. And I believe that there must be realization of all opportunities for all citizens. Do you prioritize education, career success and personal business? Fine. Make a career, become a wealthy person. Can anyone combine this with family life? Also good. Good luck to him). Does anyone want to live in the interests of their family? Great! Let them give birth, raise and raise children as full-fledged members of society. And this is also hard and responsible work. Everyone has their own path through life. These are the only roads that SHOULD BE. And only a social state can “build” them, the foundation of which can only be a society of masters of producers, scientists, designers, engineers, technologists, skilled workers, and not hucksters.
  31. +2
    27 February 2024 11: 34
    The power is occupation, that’s all the conclusions...
    1. 0
      1 March 2024 10: 14
      Capitalist power. Simple, standard, capitalist power. Hence all the laws, and problems, and everything characteristic of capitalism. If you think it’s different in other capitalist countries, then no. They've all been through or going through it. If you want it differently, then choose the communists. There are no other options.
  32. +6
    27 February 2024 11: 35
    The “great” and “brilliant” thieves and speculators learned management in the USA and England and work according to the same scheme. They are being replaced by even more “effective” children and granddaughters, who already have difficulty speaking Russian, because they studied even longer in English schools. Our country has a wonderful future with such figures. You'll see. Our children will already witness unprecedented “achievements” and “breakthroughs”.
  33. +12
    27 February 2024 11: 38
    "At which it was decided to build special residential areas to accommodate migrants."
    In the 90s, these countries believed that the Russians were to blame, that they lived “badly.” That's why they kicked out all the Russians. No one answered or repented for the Russian genocide. And now it turns out they cannot live without Russians. This means that Russians get a mortgage at 20%, and they specifically decided to build housing for migrants to make it easier to control them! 96% are against migrants. So whose interests does Putin and his government protect? They create problems themselves, and then heroically try to solve them, at our expense. Oh, and mediocrity! As is the pop, so is the arrival!
    1. +2
      27 February 2024 20: 33
      Putin defends the interests of the ruling class. The ruling class is the capitalists or bourgeois. It is very profitable for capitalists to destroy the local Russian population and replace it with a cheaper and more resigned population from Central Asia. This is why Russians get a 20% mortgage, and migrant workers get social housing from enterprises. You'll see, this housing will be built using taxes collected from the local population.
    2. 0
      27 February 2024 20: 33
      Putin defends the interests of the ruling class. The ruling class is the capitalists or bourgeois. It is very profitable for capitalists to destroy the local Russian population and replace it with a cheaper and more resigned population from Central Asia. This is why Russians get a 20% mortgage, and migrant workers get social housing from enterprises. You'll see, this housing will be built using taxes collected from the local population.
  34. +3
    27 February 2024 11: 39
    Quote: Vladimir M
    Why in our country, if there is an initiative, then it is definitely just another stupidity? Is it really not smart enough to see what this led to in France? Just as they are going to control entire areas of migrants, the police will be afraid to go there. Have you decided to create a hotbed of drugs and weapons?

    That's what it's all about...
    Additional income.
  35. +6
    27 February 2024 11: 40
    Oh yes, migrant neighborhoods, a dream hideout for crime and all sorts of terrorist cells. Very convenient and reliable. It would be time to check this initiative official for corruption ties with crime and other dishonesty. Or simply drive as a person not burdened with intelligence and the worldview of a shell. It is obvious that nowhere and never have individual ghettos been a model of order and splendor and are very quickly uncontrolled in principle (well, for show, yes, but in fact never by anyone other than cruel internal and criminal concepts and laws. We really need to adopt such experience.
  36. +2
    27 February 2024 11: 42
    We need a ban on the residence of migrants in the capital region, Moscow and the region, cities with a population of over a million and regional centers....

    Migrants are needed where there is a real labor shortage, the Far North, the Far East, rural areas....
    This is where it is necessary to build closed settlements for migrants at the expense of employers receiving quotas for the import of migrants...
    1. +1
      27 February 2024 19: 33
      Quote: assault
      This is where we need to build gated communities

      In general, there is no need to build any villages for them. You've done your job and go back home!
  37. -1
    27 February 2024 11: 42
    The question is what is being built and most importantly for whom.
    If these are towns of container dorms for shift workers, that’s one thing.
    If normal houses are for families, that’s completely different.
  38. +2
    27 February 2024 14: 04
    Well, smart people learn from the mistakes of others, people of average mental abilities learn from their own, and stupid people generally cannot be taught.
  39. +2
    27 February 2024 15: 06
    Firstly, what is observed in Russia are processes characteristic of a “unipolar world”, instructions for its construction in the center of the “civilized world”. What is left of national origin?
    Secondly, migration policy, in addition to short-term business benefits, has the goal of replacing the main ethnic group. Since its critical mass is a fundamental obstacle to the strengthening of the “unipolar world” in Russia. If such a goal is achieved, then the territory of Russia will be called differently, and the Russian people will be assimilated by other peoples.
    Thirdly, more broadly, this is a war with the white race.
    1. +2
      27 February 2024 17: 59
      First, the rulers replace the main ethnic group of the country with guest workers, and then the guest workers replace the rulers....
      1. +2
        27 February 2024 20: 35
        The circulation of guest workers in nature :) In fact, a new global migration of peoples, like at the beginning of a new era :)
  40. +1
    27 February 2024 15: 52
    Quarters for migrants are far from an innovative idea; in this regard, Russia is simply adopting European experience.

    Since the 90s, we have been adopting the negative experience of European countries, and once upon a time the world adopted the experience of the USSR...
    * * *
    I won't be upset at all. Maybe the decision to move the capital to another place will be made faster, and Moscow will be left at the mercy of migrants...
  41. +5
    27 February 2024 16: 00
    The creation of such "Chinatowns" is the greatest stupidity that can be imagined. These will be breeding grounds for terrorism, drug addiction, crime and corruption. They will be controlled by local “authorities”, and not by local or republican authorities.
    1. -1
      27 February 2024 20: 35
      This is the goal, so that later the cops and special services can feed themselves from the criminal money of thieves and terrorist “authorities”
  42. +4
    27 February 2024 16: 52
    Our GDP stated that the formation of ethnic enclaves should not be allowed! What a tin...
    1. +2
      27 February 2024 18: 11
      And Vaska thinks and eats (c) In the sense that this character thinks one thing, says something completely different, and then does something completely different. Believe less talk...
    2. +1
      27 February 2024 20: 14
      GDP stated that it would not allow an increase
    3. +3
      27 February 2024 20: 36
      For 24 years, GDP has told a lot of fairy tales.
  43. +1
    27 February 2024 16: 55
    No matter how indignant the people are, the authorities continue to stick to their line. A feeling of some kind of diabolical apocalypse. You can only watch and pray to God, because it is apparently more realistic to shout to him than to the authorities...
  44. +1
    27 February 2024 17: 58
    will create “neighbourhoods for migrants”
  45. +3
    27 February 2024 18: 08
    Governor of the Moscow Region Andrei Vorobyov held a meeting with representatives of large businesses, officials and law enforcement officers, at which a decision was made to build special residential areas to accommodate migrants. This is justified by the fact that this would supposedly make it easier to control migrants.

    All of the above, as well as the Moscow Government, should be resettled for permanent residence exclusively in these areas.
  46. +2
    27 February 2024 18: 25
    There should be no residence or assimilation at all. They came to the target job, did it, received money, paid taxes, and went home - to their native “neighbourhoods”. There they will be treated and the children will be educated. For work - only by competition, with the personal responsibility of the employer. Any problems are at the expense of the latter.
  47. +3
    27 February 2024 18: 57
    The problem and the most important one in Russia is probably corrupt officials (not all, but.....). Who arranged the rubber apartments, how they passed the exam successfully in the Russian language without being able to say a word, how they received Russian citizenship often without any reason, how thousands of “highly qualified” migrants received work permits. There is some kind of struggle being waged against this scourge, but no real results are visible. But everything seems to be simple, for example in Finland, Sweden, where you cannot put cash on a bank card without explaining the origin of these funds and paying tax. If you built real estate, explain the origin of the funds (if relatives owe money, the relatives show the origin of the money). Everyone knows how this happens in Russia. Any governor can have 10-20 apartments, and when looking at his income, the most he can count on is a good house with a good plot. Therefore, the problem of migrants will emerge in Russia in 15-20 years in full glory, when there will be neither GDP nor these officials. All the negative aspects are still ahead and it will be worse than the privatization of the 90s. And Russia simply cannot resist that turmoil; there is no need for NATO. It is the matter of time. It seems so to me, unfortunately
  48. 0
    27 February 2024 19: 03
    Without some support from law enforcement agencies, migrants would not have behaved this way, feeling their complete impunity in accordance with some of their moral and psychological attitudes towards women and religious beliefs. If desired, a maximum of two weeks and the junk would return back to its native habitat with the confiscation of Russian citizenship and lifelong deportation with the inclusion of persons in all databases. Namely back to Tajikistan, Uzbekistan and other countries. Representatives from Central Asia have long forgotten what exactly is written in the Koran and even more so how to read the Koran. That's why they flee from their homeland. But there are even more doubts that the guarantor supports such an official civil-political line under the pretext of friendship of peoples and other things. Otherwise, who would build, for example, Sobyanin’s construction projects and other objects under the leadership of Khusnulin and not only.
  49. -2
    27 February 2024 19: 08
    I will not be surprised that the so-called old-timers tell how to “talk” with Russians using their personal prejudices, which psychiatry is obliged to deal with.
  50. -1
    27 February 2024 21: 42
    What kind of projects are being built in our country that urgently require the import of migrants? What are these titanic construction projects?
    1. 0
      2 March 2024 21: 58
      Yes, where the “Muscovites” are afraid to get their hands dirty - who in Moscow works either from the “indigenous” or who?
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  52. +1
    27 February 2024 21: 50
    I see this as one of the methods used to destabilize in the long term. The project is slow, but also effective in its destructive function. The FSB will not help here, their hands are tied up to their shoulders and their tasks are different. Let's see how the migration route will develop further. good
  53. +1
    27 February 2024 23: 40
    Such a migrant policy can only be pursued by enemies of the country or absolutely irresponsible officials who do not connect their future lives and the lives of their children with Russia.
  54. +1
    28 February 2024 00: 28
    This is bad. Even from the point of view of the distant perspective of their hypothetical adaptation. They haven't changed for a thousand years. It's like they're frozen in the past. And if we settle them in the form of enclaves, we will get all the worst that they have. If they are really needed, then no families, no benefits. Temporary settlements, worked and returned home. If we're going to accept anyone, they're smart, but they have plenty of their own fools.
  55. +1
    28 February 2024 00: 36
    The elite capitalist model of social organization is, in principle, unable to solve such a problem, since it does not imply the socially determined nature of the wage fund. Saving on wages is an important driver of private business. We have heard and are well aware of the main arguments of capitalists who use the services of low-skilled workers: “the local population will not work for that kind of money.” And there is nothing to object to if you rely solely on “market” principles. But they are unable to implement other principles. But is there a solution, and not even connected with a revolution, a turning point of the existing... sometimes destruction to the ground... in general, without resorting to the experience of the Bolsheviks? Eat. There is a concept of a social formation that does not require a revolution, a change in the existing system, or even changes in the current legislation... but there is no one to discuss it with...
    In general... there will be those interested - write in a personal message
  56. +1
    28 February 2024 01: 16
    Quote: mordvin xnumx
    Quote: Totor5
    Just as they began to bend the Russians under the communists, they continue to do so.

    Under the communists, Uzbeks picked cotton at home.


    You can't make a good living from cotton. Where did they get roads, gasification, power plants, etc., etc. It is enough to look at the documents on the USSR budget to understand how income and expenses were distributed. The Asian republics directed taxes and income to the development of their republics, and for everything major they received subsidies from the Center. While Central Russia was dying without gas and roads.
    Everything according to Lenin’s behests - the rise of the national outskirts through reverse discrimination of Russians as heirs of the Bloody Empire.
    1. +1
      28 February 2024 04: 59
      In the Uzbek USSR, almost more Russians lived in Tashkent than Uzbeks. So they developed the outskirts for the Russians who had moved as well. You probably don’t know where hundreds of thousands of Russian families were evacuated from the western territories of the USSR occupied by the German fascists? Lenin was not a Russophobe and did not discriminate against any ethnic group. He was a communist.
  57. +1
    28 February 2024 07: 54
    We need to learn from the experience of Saudi Arabia. There are hired workers who live almost in concentration camps and have no rights, only responsibilities. Something went wrong - deportation within 24 hours and a lifelong entry ban. And no one protests.
    1. +1
      28 February 2024 08: 11
      Who “needs” to adopt the experience of the Arabs? “Mr.” Vorobyov doesn’t need it personally. He has already thought of everything and decided.
      1. 0
        28 February 2024 11: 41
        This citizen is not the ultimate truth))) there are comrades higher than him, that’s how they decide, so it will be.
  58. 0
    28 February 2024 08: 23
    Quote: cast iron
    In the Uzbek USSR, almost more Russians lived in Tashkent than Uzbeks. So they developed the outskirts for the Russians who had moved as well. You probably don’t know where hundreds of thousands of Russian families were evacuated from the western territories of the USSR occupied by the German fascists? Lenin was not a Russophobe and did not discriminate against any ethnic group. He was a communist.

    And they were second class there back then
    1. 0
      1 March 2024 13: 18
      Aren't you tired of voicing your stupid fantasies?
  59. 0
    28 February 2024 14: 29
    Quote from: newtc7
    Quote: ZloyKot
    "This is the name that makes the public promise"
    What didn’t this character promise, but who believes him? those same 146%?


    but how are they going to move people into power??

    Just like in the previous elections in “single-member constituencies”.
  60. 0
    28 February 2024 15: 50
    Under the leadership of the “valiant” party - United Russia, the House of Islam will soon be in Moscow. And where is the Russian State and Russia? And the authorities, led by the President, are still short on money. At the same time, these new citizens of United Russia will certainly not go to Donbass or participate in the North Military District. Hence the question? Do the Russians need this? The answer is obvious - NO.
  61. 0
    28 February 2024 20: 59
    if it is a labor migrant without Russian citizenship, then there is no problem. citizens of the Russian Federation are another matter. this will definitely become a problem - worse than Lenin’s notorious atomic bomb
  62. 0
    29 February 2024 13: 14
    No central territories, let them develop Kolyma!
  63. 0
    29 February 2024 21: 42
    There are places in Moscow where Russians cannot enter. There are closed establishments “for our own people”. Chinese, Tajiks, Uzbeks, etc. There are areas where it is better not to go even during the day. You may ask, what about the police? I’m telling you (I saw the picture in person): a capital street is blocked by a car with the symbols of the Ministry of Internal Affairs (inscription, tape, flashing lights, blue license plate, etc. At the same time - a Lexus. After blocking the traffic, an Aurus appears with two black tinted minivans. I was already thinking - has the guarantor really arrived? It turned out that it was an Azerbaijani, or rather a Mountain Jew, who had arrived. The owner of the Evropeisky shopping center on the square of the Kievsky Station, the owner of Sadovod, and a host of other things. He was guarded by about 10 people with machine guns, in uniform. The National Guard was listed on the uniform. Such strong Russians The guys looked confident and were doing an important job. Well, they didn’t shoot....
    1. 0
      1 March 2024 13: 21
      Don’t worry, if the owner orders, they will shoot to kill :) It doesn’t matter who. That's why she's a security guard with machine guns. Soviet citizens lacked such “masters” with private armies, machine guns and so on. Only such “owners” will improve life in the country. Chubais and the Gaidars claimed.
  64. 0
    1 March 2024 23: 30
    Excellent review by the author.
  65. 0
    2 March 2024 21: 52
    Only these vipers were missing in the Moscow region and the surrounding area - but if they appear, it will only be “at the request of working Muscovites”!
    1. +1
      3 March 2024 01: 46
      Have you already forgotten that it was precisely at the “requests of pensioners” that the retirement age was raised to 65 years in 2018? And apparently they haven’t heard that the conscription age was extended to 30 years, also at the “numerous requests” of citizens :) And migrant ghettos will also be built with taxes from citizens of the Russian Federation exclusively “at the request” of citizens of the Russian Federation :)
  66. 0
    6 March 2024 20: 47
    Not in any of the constitutions of the Turkestan countries (АtimeАazerbaijanТadzhikiУzbeksКAzakhostan) there is not a word about multinationality.

    Their constitutions glorify the single, core people of their country.

    The shame of Yeltsin’s anti-Russian policy (oil and gas in exchange for people, etc. horrors) led to the systematic slaughter of Russians, Germans and Jews in the countries of the former Tukrkestan.
    Having driven out the Russians, these countries slipped into dense feudalism.
    Millions of Turkestanis realized that they would never have it as good as it was under the USSR.

    And then, the children of the Turkestan Nazis, filled Russia and continued their bloody work.

    The policy of rejecting the titular nation and admiring the multinational has failed.