Confiscation of Russian assets will be a strategic victory for Moscow

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Confiscation of Russian assets will be a strategic victory for Moscow

Immediately at the beginning of the Russian military operation on the territory of Ukraine, on February 24, 2022, along with the introduction of new sanctions against Russia, the political leadership of the Atlantic bloc immediately came to a consensus on freezing gold and foreign exchange assets that the Central Bank of the Russian Federation had previously entrusted to financial institutions, investing in financial products, including government debt securities of the countries they represent.

From revanchist confidence to sanctions phrenesia


On the night of 27 February 2022, Ursula von der Leyen, head of the European Commission, announced that the European Union and its partners had decidedparalyze» assets of the Russian Central Bank, «to prevent the Bank of Russia from using its own international reserves to weaken the impact of Western sanctions ».



On March 1, 2022, French Minister of Economy Bruno Le Maire, in an interview with France Info, gave a precise definition of the plans and confidence of the Western camp regarding Moscow:

“Yes, sanctions are effective. Economic and financial sanctions are even extremely effective. And I do not want to allow any ambiguity regarding European resolve on this issue. We will enter into an all-out economic and financial war with Russia. [...] Thus, we will provoke the collapse of the Russian economy."

Just a week later, on March 7, 2022, the Russian Federation officially became the world leader in the number of sanctions imposed against a single state, overtaking Iran, which had held this record until now.

Months passed, and Russia's opponents began to come to extremely alarming conclusions: a record number of sanctions had been initiated in stories humanity did have a negative impact on the Russian economy, but this impact was incomparably more moderate than expected and announced in advance by the jubilation of the French minister.

Contrary to the expected imminent collapse, the Russian economy demonstrated unfortunate stability and strength, completely unexpected for the attacking side, which did not take into account in its calculations a number of key factors of the Russian economy and the political and economic decisions of Moscow.

The ineffectiveness of the sanctions led to a real operational panic among their authors, which resulted in the adoption of new packages of sanctions on an ongoing basis, as a result of which their number as of January 2024 reached a completely anecdotal level: 2 sanctions.

This unheard-of number is comparable only to the level of its ineffectiveness in achieving its intended goal: the collapse of the Russian economy.

Inconvenient sovereign immunity


In parallel with the successive waves of anti-Russian sanctions and given the low level of effectiveness of the latter, since the spring of 2022 there have been increasingly loud voices calling for the playing of a new card that is seen as clearly effective in the long term against the Russian economy: outright confiscation of the frozen assets of the Central Bank Russia, amounting to more than US$300 billion, and their subsequent investment in the fight against Moscow.

More than a year and a half after initiating thoughts about the possibility of confiscation of Russian sovereign financial assets, on January 24, 2024, the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee took the first tangible step in this direction by approving the bill Rebuilding Economic Prosperity and Opportunity (REPO) for Ukrainians Act ("An act of restoring prosperity and economic opportunity to Ukrainians"), aimed at confiscating Russian assets with a view to transferring them to Ukraine and, above all, setting an example to follow for their European partners, who account for the largest share of Russia's foreign investments. Given this approval, the seizure of Russian funds could take place as soon as it is approved by the full Senate, House of Representatives and promulgated by President Joe Biden.

A week earlier, at the World Economic Forum, held in Davos from 15 to 19 January 2024, David Cameron, British Foreign Secretary, said:

“We have already frozen these assets. The question is: what should we do next? And I think there is a legal argument, a moral argument and a political argument... when Putin started this illegal invasion, the world changed, and we must change with it. And let's recognize that we live in a more dangerous, more uncertain and more challenging world, and so we must be willing to think innovatively about how we can use these resources to help Ukraine."

As for Mr. Cameron's thoughts, there is undoubtedly political argument; as for moral argument – he is more than doubtful. Regarding legal argument – the British minister is wishful thinking: as in the case of the previous Western initiative to put the Russian president on trial within the framework of the “Ukraine tribunal” at the ICC (see my analysis of the “Ukraine tribunal”), confiscation of Russian state property would be a flagrant violation of international law.

States have sovereign immunity in relation to their property in any of its forms and are exempt from the jurisdictions of other countries - expropriation of their property is prohibited. There is no legal derogation from this prohibition. The possibility of confiscating the frozen sovereign assets of the Russian Federation is just political speculation, completely beyond the bounds of legality.

The provisions of international law are clear and not subject to interpretation: the only legal possibility of confiscation of a state's sovereign assets is a decision of the UN Security Council, a verdict of the International Court of Justice, or an agreement signed by the parties as part of a peace treaty on reparations in connection with a completed armed conflict.

In any case, within the framework of an actual conflict, no actions can be carried out without the official consent of Russia and be lawful.

The project of spoliation of Russian sovereign assets is great news for Moscow


Among the harmful consequences that will inevitably occur as a result of the confiscation of Russian assets, two main ones should be noted.

The first of them is the self-destruction of the state reputation, which the Western world has so far enjoyed as a space of respect for rights and compliance with laws. The inevitable loss of this reputation will directly lead to a loss of confidence in the Western financial system based on US dollars and euros, and consequently in the security of investments in the financial products offered by the latter.

It should be emphasized that even before it came to the freezing and possible illegal confiscation of Russian assets, the non-Western world had already embarked on the path of de-dollarization. De-dollarization was initiated by Moscow immediately after Putin came to power and is one of the main real reasons for the war in Ukraine.

Since the beginning of the conflict in Ukraine, provoked by the United States as a result of the 2014 coup, Russia has completely gotten rid of the American debtor. If back in 2010 Russia was one of the ten largest holders of US treasury bills worth more than 176 billion US dollars, then in 2015 it only had about 90 billion left, that is, their total amount was practically halved in 5 years.

At the start of the military operation in Ukraine, Russia held only 2 billion of this debt, and even this modest figure was reduced by 99,25% between February 2022 and November 2023.

Today, Russian investments in American debt are zero.

Simultaneously with getting rid of American treasury bonds, the Russian Federation initiated a progressive process of liberating the world from the “petrodollar” system.

What is this about?

With the collapse in 1971 of the Bretton Woods agreements, which had been in force since 1944, world dependence on the US dollar began to decline critically for the US economy, and the latter had to look for an alternative way to increase world demand for the national currency. A way has been found.

In 1979, the “petrodollar” was born as part of the US-Saudi economic cooperation agreement: “oil for dollars.” As part of this agreement, Saudi Arabia committed to sell its oil to the rest of the world only in US dollars, and to reinvest its excess US currency reserves in US Treasuries and in US companies.

In return, the United States assumed obligations and guarantees for the military security of Saudi Arabia. Subsequently, the “oil for dollars” agreement was extended to other OPEC countries, without any compensation from the Americans, and led to an exponential emission of the dollar. Progressively, the American dollar became the main trading currency and other commodities, which ensured the latter's place as the world's reserve currency and gave the United States unrivaled superiority and enormous privileges.

Russia has launched a vicious spiral: the destruction of the “petrodollar” system will inevitably cause a significant blow to the US Treasury bond market. A decrease in demand for the dollar in the international arena will automatically lead to devaluation of the currency and de facto to a decrease in demand for Treasury bonds, which in turn will mechanically lead to an increase in their interest rate - financing the US government debt at the level we know today will become easy impossible.

In tandem with Russia, China is also progressively getting rid of a dangerous debtor. If in 2015 his assets included overseas treasury bills in an amount exceeding $1 billion, then by the beginning of the war in Ukraine this figure was less than 270 billion, that is, there is a decrease in volume by ¼ over 970 years. And despite this significant decline, since February 7, the Middle Kingdom has reduced US debt assets by another 2022%.

These factors pose an existential threat to the American state and explain many of the military-political initiatives of the White House since February 5, 2003.

The situation on the European market is hardly more enviable: a trend towards an outflow of extra-European capital has emerged, and, most likely, in the foreseeable future the latter will only intensify.

In this context, the illegal freezing of the sovereign funds of the Russian Federation, even without confiscation by states applying a permissive strategy, only aggravated the trends developing in the markets of the European Union.

As for their confiscation, even partial, this will directly lead to a deep international crisis and serious financial destabilization at the global level with direct damage, first of all, to Western financial markets.

There is a high probability that this will cause an avalanche-like effect at the level of processes of disinvestment and withdrawal of government financial investments of non-Western origin, which are already taking place in the Western world, but are still relatively moderate in nature.

Virtually no state outside the Atlantic bloc will risk being spoliated if one day their sovereign policies run counter to the interests of the United States or Europe: not only the extra-European state assets currently present on the Western market will leave it in an accelerated manner , but even more detrimental to the latter, future assets will undoubtedly turn to alternative financial products that do not pose the risks associated with Western supply. Especially offered by the Asian and Gulf markets.

What shocked me was not that you lied to me, but that from now on I could no longer trust you.
Friedrich Nietzsche.

The second strategic effect of the theft of the sovereign reserves of the Central Bank of Russia will be the direct legitimation of Russia in its legalization of the nationalization/confiscation of Western assets present on the Russian market as financial compensation for losses.

The confiscation by Western countries of assets entrusted to them by Moscow will de facto once again confirm the validity of the Russian position in the eyes of almost the entire non-Western world in confrontation with the Atlantic camp, which thus openly positions itself in the role of the supreme civilization, standing above all international laws that are binding. only the inferior nations that make up the rest of the world.

On the Russian side, confiscation as compensation of the assets of large Western groups present on Russian territory will be completely legitimate in the eyes of non-Western economic entities and will not cause significant damage in terms of future non-Western foreign investment in the Russian market, which will continue to enjoy a reputation as a relatively safe zone for foreign investment, unlike the Western alternative.

Not to mention the fact that private assets, neither at the national nor at the international level, do not have immunity and protection comparable to the protection of sovereign funds - the possible impact on the latter by the state has a much wider legal spectrum.

Thus, Russian financial losses caused by the initiatives of Washington and its satellites will not only be recognized as practically zero, but will also be directly converted into significant financial losses for companies in the enemy camp.

Based on national statistics, it is possible to estimate losses by country in billions of US dollars. In particular, France will lose up to 16,6 billion, the Netherlands - up to 50,1 billion, Great Britain - up to 18,9 billion, Switzerland - up to 28,5 billion, Germany - up to 17,3 billion, Italy - up to 12,9 billion , Japan - up to 4,6 billion, Canada - up to 2,9 billion and the USA - up to 9,6 billion.

As for the reputational risks in connection with Russian confiscation regarding potential significant Western investors, they are quite real, but they can be neglected: in any case, it is now excluded that in the foreseeable future there may be any significant investments from Western economic entities in the Russian market . Which, however, is completely mutual in relation to Russian public or private investments in Western markets.

Thus, according to the principle of communicating vessels, Moscow will return its financial assets blocked indefinitely, and in fact, not Russian funds, but the capital of Western companies, will be sent to Ukraine.

In the short term, the consequences of transferring embezzled assets to Ukraine will undoubtedly be negative for Russia: the money will be invested in a war against its owner and will only lead to an additional prolongation of the armed conflict.

However, the positive effects of significant financial injections into the Ukrainian economy must be nuanced: while providing significant support to the economic and social spheres of Ukraine, the consequences on the battlefields will be relatively limited, since, on the one hand, they will not be able to significantly compensate for the shortage of military equipment and ammunition in the western supplier market, and on the other hand, they will in no way contribute to replenishing the shortage of qualified combat human resources, which is growing in the ranks of the Ukrainian armed forces in arithmetic progression.

"Rules" of the Western World


Today Moscow, forced by imposed circumstances, is using a technique that has every chance of destroying the financial reputation of the traditionally self-centered collective West.

If, due to political blindness, the Western “partners” ignoring the technology used is quite understandable, it is quite surprising that this condition can be safely attributed to their ally in the Atlantic coalition in the person of Japan, which should not fail to notice the analogy at the level of the effects expected by Moscow with the martial art based Japanese Morihei Ueshiba - Aikido, one of the main principles of which is the use of the opponent’s own strength.

Russia does not need to make any efforts to ensure that the West, gripped by collective hysteria, self-destructs one of the foundations that ensure its authority and attractiveness to the whole world: the security of investments in financial products of which it is the issuer.

American and European officials are particularly insistent in repeating mantras about “Russia destroying the international rules-based order.” One can only disappoint and remind the latter: no, the international order is in no way based on “rules”, which none of their current defenders have ever bothered to set out in detail for the simple reason that they do not exist. It is based exclusively on international treaties and agreements that are in force as a result of their signing on recognition with their subsequent ratification by sovereign states in accordance with the current UN Charter.

Order based on “rules” rather than laws certainly exists. But it is by no means international, and this is the order of existence of banditry and organized crime. This crime is really governed by “rules”, or more precisely by “concepts”: the laws of the jungle, the rules of the strongest.

Considering that the member countries of the North Atlantic Alliance organization have been acting in recent decades in the international arena, using methods inherent in an organized gang that respects only force and abides exclusively by its own rules, and the results of whose activities today are more harmful to the rest of the world than the cumulative result of the activities of all organized crime of the planet - the use of vocabulary in NATO that replaces international laws with “rules” takes on a logical meaning.
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  1. 0
    24 February 2024 05: 49
    [quote] France will lose up to 16,6 billion, the Netherlands - up to 50,1 billion, Great Britain - up to 18,9 billion, Switzerland - up to 28,5 billion, Germany - up to 17,3 billion, Italy - up to 12,9 billion , Japan - up to 4,6 billion, Canada - up to 2,9 billion and the USA - up to 9,6 billion.[/quote]
    The amount is not even close to 300 billion that they want to confiscate from us, moreover, it is dispersed across different states. The Netherlands and Switzerland will be the main sufferers (Switzerland is not a fact) and the rest will not even notice, they have lost more.
    1. +38
      24 February 2024 06: 37
      De-dollarization was initiated by Moscow immediately after Putin came to power and is one of the main real reasons for the war in Ukraine.

      Look, it’s like Mikhalych... And we thought... what The thoughts of the author of this work are deep - incomprehensible to “average minds”; only geniuses and experts in multi-move moves are accessible....
      1. +12
        24 February 2024 07: 04
        Yes, that’s all, we have rupees, but what to do with them while we are scratching our mane, and 300 lards were never ours))) the bins of the homeland always concerned only the homeland, there is also an opinion that these 300, but they say that more or less were taken there not in order to return, but in order to ensure a comfortable old age))) just like the gold of the CPSU)) Chubais will not let you lie)
        1. 0
          29 February 2024 14: 16
          “Miss” public money, although Putin himself has repeatedly warned other private traders that they will “suffer to swallow dust” in attempts to return their “hard-earned money” and immediately “a master of sports in playing multidimensional chess and a master of sports in multi-moves” himself “missed” more 300 yards
          Maybe it’s time to retire and not do my own manicure, but along the way we’ll put up with this for another 12 years
          "a brilliant master of multi-move moves."
          Putin, where is Kherson???
      2. +1
        24 February 2024 07: 18
        The photo shows a meeting of political bankrupts and WAR CRIMINALS of 2022-2024 from Western Europe and the USA, for which a military tribunal is waiting for them in the dock! On their hands are up to a million deaths of Ukrainians in Ukraine and millions of Ukrainian “refugees”!
        Remember their names and their faces!

        In the photo there are only POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC BANKRUPT and WAR CRIMINAL countries of Europe and the USA against Russia, against Ukraine, against the population and national security of their own countries and all humanity.
        1. +7
          24 February 2024 08: 31
          Quote: Tatiana
          The photo shows a meeting of political bankrupts and WAR CRIMINALS of 2022-2024 from Western Europe and the USA, for which a military tribunal is waiting for them in the dock! On their hands are up to a million deaths of Ukrainians in Ukraine and millions of Ukrainian “refugees”!

          Unfortunately, they can only be brought to trial if they become weak. Now they, alas, are invulnerable
          1. 0
            24 February 2024 14: 10
            Quote: Dutchman Michel
            Unfortunately, they can only be brought to trial if they become weak. Now they, alas, are invulnerable

            You are wrong about their "invulnerability"! They are very vulnerable! Namely.

            It is necessary in advance - already now (!) - to prepare indictment materials against them for the MILITARY TRIBUNAL against them as provocateurs and instigators of TMB, and not later!
            And this must be done immediately now, so that out of fear of their responsibility for their WAR CRIMES, the ground will disappear from under their feet right now!
            1. +2
              26 February 2024 06: 58
              Quote: Tatiana
              ...
              And this must be done immediately now, so that out of fear of their responsibility for their WAR CRIMES, the ground will disappear from under their feet right now!

              If a person is robbed on the street, is this his “strategic victory”?..... And of course “the ground will disappear from under the feet” of the robbers.... Uh-huh.... uh-huh... laughing
              1. +1
                26 February 2024 09: 47
                Quote: ivan2022
                If a person is robbed on the street, is this his “strategic victory”?..... And of course “the ground will disappear from under the feet” of the robbers.... Uh-huh.... uh-huh...

                Well, you compared absolutely not correct robbery of a person on the street with enemy robbery of the entire STATE!

                THE STATE HAS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES in relation to individuals!
                The State can BANKRUPTCY who it needs abroad, catch and PUT IN JAIL in its own country, and who it needs and JUST KILL!

                There have been few such cases in the world that we know about?
                If only the statesmen had a desire to get at the enemy and give him retribution according to his deserts!
      3. +6
        24 February 2024 18: 32
        Let the author of the article, Mr. Nesterenko, answer one question for himself: if his wife (if he has one) gives money from his house, and a lot of it, to a neighbor, and he lets them go on a drinking binge with another neighbor, then how will the author react to this? ? How about the strategic thinking of his wife or how about a woman’s stupidity? Well, one more question to fill in. Will the author again leave his wife in charge of money (strategically) or, after good bashing, will he throw him out of the house for stupidity (since shooting is prohibited in our country)? Maybe stop defending " strategic nonsense, various types of health problems and other nonsense. Or did the order come out?
        1. +1
          25 February 2024 13: 29
          Quote: Taimen
          Let the author of the article, Mr. Nesterenko, answer one question for himself: if his wife (if he has one) gives money from his house, and a lot of it, to a neighbor, and he lets them go on a drinking binge with another neighbor, then how will the author react to this? ? How about the strategic thinking of his wife or how about a woman’s stupidity? Well, and one more question to fill in. Will the author again leave his wife in charge of money (strategically) or, after a good fight, will he throw him out of the house for stupidity (since shooting is prohibited in our country)?
          Considering that Mr. Nesterenko has his neighbor’s assets worth a comparable amount at home, then why not. If the neighbor does not repay the debt, he will lose face, and it is unlikely that anyone will shake hands with him, but Mr. Nesterenko will not lose anything. So it will be more expensive for your neighbor to drink your money away, it will only cause problems, which is why the West (neighbor) still does not dare to confiscate our assets.
          Maybe stop defending “strategic” nonsense, various types of health problems and other nonsense.
          Everything is so elementary, and is confirmed by the actions of the West itself, that it is not even clear why you are writing this nonsense. If everything were as simple as you say, they would have confiscated it long ago and no one would have been asked.
      4. 0
        27 February 2024 02: 16
        Are you the one with your 7100 comments (plug in all the holes?:) stuttering about the ability to think? lol lol
        Do you know what people call it? Hint: ...bol ends with Yes
        Why do you spend half your life on the Internet - go do your job: the ditch won’t dig itself wassat
        I understand that there are a dozen of you “commentators” here, unable to say 3 useful words out of 20.000 comments, but still... you are somehow struggling with your loneliness... drinks
        1. -1
          27 February 2024 02: 35
          Look, it’s like Mikhalych... And we thought.... what The thoughts of the author of this work are deep - incomprehensible to the “average minds”, only geniuses and experts in multi-move moves are accessible
          . https://topwar.ru/user/Monster_Fat/
        2. +1
          27 February 2024 09: 36
          :) Treat with understanding all the comrades who are in a hurry to leave their opinion in the 1001st copy: apparently, their socio-professional/family level is such that in life simply no one listens to them. But you need to speak out. So they compensate for the lack of attention. These are Jung’s bases (or rather, from the psychology of neuroses from Alfred Adler;)
          And as for their number - what are you saying: with all due respect, this is, as they say, three and a half people. What is of interest is not a dozen readers, but tranches of at least 10.000. If we talk specifically about this article, it was published/republished in 15-20 countries on 30-40 websites and 10-15 newspapers. This 1 in a clothespin, for example, was read by 200 thousand people. That is, I think there is no need to indicate the place of opinions of 15 guys ;) I skimmed through some of them: not interesting - empty talk - it is much more interesting to read opinions in publications of “enemy” countries...
          1. -1
            27 February 2024 10: 38
            Quote: NESTERENKO
            What is of interest is not a dozen readers, but tranches of at least 10.000.

            In general, the opinion of professionals who understand the issue is of interest. And which from one phrase
            Dedollarization was initiated by Moscow immediately after Putin came to power

            they will laugh out loud.
            And so - yes, the article, although it does not demonstrate at least the rudiments of an understanding of how the economy works, is beautiful, readable and incisive, so they will read it a lot and throw out countless remarks...
            1. -1
              27 February 2024 11: 39
              You certainly go to the mentioned prof. don't relate wassat
              If you want to learn at least something and get your head around something, stuttering about de-dollarization, find the author’s analysis of War in Ukraine: Genesis.
              Maybe you'll look a little less stupid. fool
              Although, as far as I know, the author was only a Dean and a teacher for 10-15 years at the Master's Degrees of the largest business schools in Paris, an adviser to political parties and ministers in Africa, etc. - where does he belong before you commentators laughing lol
              And the opinions of professionals - you certainly won’t find even one of the average commentators lol
              1. -1
                27 February 2024 11: 43
                Quote: Alexandretta
                Although, as far as I know, the author was only a Dean and a teacher for 10-15 years in the Master's programs of the largest business schools in Paris

                Yes, yes, the usual problem of a teacher is that he thinks he understands economics. In addition, the teacher also has little knowledge of the economic history of the Russian Federation.
                Quote: Alexandretta
                If you want to learn at least something and get your head around something, stuttering about dedollarization

                If you want to know at least something about dedollarization in the Russian Federation, read here
                https://topwar.ru/178094-o-dedollarizacii-bjudzhete-rf-nefti-i-gaze.html
                https://topwar.ru/178378-poleznye-iskopaemye-i-jekonomika-rf-kto-zdes-na-kogo-rabotaet.html
                https://topwar.ru/178532-o-tom-kak-nashej-strane-pravilno-ispolzovat-dohody-ot-prodazhi-nefti-i-gaza.html
                This is the reality of the Russian Federation.
                Quote: Alexandretta
                advisor to political parties and ministers in Africa, etc. - where does he belong to you?

                Yeah, what does he care about people who have worked in the real sector of the economy for 20 years. Very far
                1. 0
                  27 February 2024 11: 59
                  20 years in the real sector of the economy? lol
                  Of course he has nothing to do with you! I found information about him on Western resources. He worked as a head and manager in international business between France, Russia, CIS and Africa for only 25 years.
                  On his team there are only a couple of generals and only a few former CEOs of large international companies, including the former head of French foreign intelligence. And he’s only been a Franco-Mason for about 20 years (and the Masons are, of course, very stupid people, and in general they’re the only fools gathered there)
                  He is just on friendly terms with the person who led and built the Kazakhstan Novorossiysk pipeline and this person today participates in his personal business projects. He taught at the invitation of business schools who know how many millions he has earned and how much he understands international business and politics; they asked him to teach them to students in his free time. They paid him per hour the same as you per week. But he got tired of teaching plus being busy in business, so he hasn’t been teaching for a couple of years, even though he’s officially a graduate student at a major business school.
                  Where does he care about you experts? love
                  Seriously though: at least sometimes, comrades, you use your brains and don’t embarrass yourself by imagining that the largest economic publications in different countries, political figures and Paris business schools are all so stupid that they couldn’t understand that neither him nor you should have been hired love fool
                  And journalists, of course, are all stupid and idiots - and she didn’t look at his website - there about 200 issues of newspapers were printed in all countries of the entire French-speaking world, every word he said in 2023 alone.
                  I'm sure this is because he is a complete idiot, but the clown to whom I am writing this is simply an unrecognized genius love lol
                2. +1
                  27 February 2024 12: 09
                  Yes, I also read that in business schools he not only taught business negotiations, that is, he taught the French how to earn money, but at the same time for many years he also taught the Russian market, the CIS market and the franc, Russian relations.
                  His business structure in Paris was created with the assistance of the Russian Chamber of Commerce and Industry and the Russian trade mission (visible on the website)
                  But naturally he is a complete sucker and doesn’t understand a damn thing about economics or the Russian market - how stupid the French are that they shelled out so much money for him to teach for them instead of finding you - a real professional who would cost them less. And the Minister of the Interior of the Comoros, too, keeps him as a special adviser instead of calling you. Well, that's clear, he's a black man love oh stupid French...
                  1. -1
                    27 February 2024 13: 01
                    Quote: Alexandretta
                    But of course he’s a complete sucker and doesn’t understand a damn thing about economics or the Russian market

                    I can’t say whether it’s complete or not, but he doesn’t understand what he writes. and that's a fact.
                    Quote: Alexandretta
                    How stupid the French are that they forked out so much money for him to teach for them instead of finding you

                    I'll give you a simple example. After the 2008 crisis, the owner of our company, where I held the post of finder (the company at that time was the first in size in the Russian Federation and second in the world), hired an excellent Western manager. Really excellent, not some teacher from the Comoros Islands :))). In contrast to all the regalia you mentioned above, the man distinguished himself in the REAL sector of the economy, as he built the work of Canadian enterprises in our profile; he, one might say, raised the Canadian industry to the heights of the best practices in the world. By origin - Italian.
                    And so he came to lead us and teach us life.
                    It lasted less than 3 months. And he couldn’t advise or steer anything. He simply stated that we would be bankrupt this year and said goodbye to us. And he left. But we stayed, and under me only for 5 years the enterprise lived, and earned a profit, and maintained a management company, and after I left it lived for quite a long time.
                    Quote: Alexandretta
                    I'm sure this is because he is a complete idiot, but the clown to whom I am writing this is simply an unrecognized genius

                    Like him, you understand very little about the Russian economy. Therefore, they are unable to speak on the substance of the issues raised. And as for my genius - I’m not discovering America :)))) My views are very widely circulated in the professional environment. At the level of management of large corporations and a number of leading enterprises in the Russian Federation.
                    1. +1
                      27 February 2024 13: 19
                      ...CFO...largest company...
                      This is with 30 thousand comments in the asset?? lol
                      You know, I’m like a person who has been in business, not even the smallest, and not for the first year, and who has kicked out far more than one employee into the street (more than 30 people over the last 5 years, to be more precise) for surfing, including on the Internet. the role of P-Ball (but certainly not with 30.000 messages) - how does such a person define mythomaniacs??
                      Rhetorical question.

                      And the author is absolutely right. If we talk about dedalorization, you need to clearly understand the economic scheme of the world, including the events of 2003, 2011, and so on. If you don’t understand what’s going on, don’t lose your unique opportunity to remain silent.

                      P.S. If I’m in business here, I’m writing something now only because I’m on vacation. Well, certainly my comments will never exceed three or four dozen - but here, on the contrary, the writer is a little more and 50.000. "a major director in a major company" ha ha ha lol
                      1. -2
                        27 February 2024 17: 13
                        Quote: Alexandretta
                        This is with 30 thousand comments in the asset??

                        25 thousand to be exact. Yes. In 12,5 years. 2000 comments per year. Or 5,5 comments a day. True, of these 12,5 years, I did not work in my profession for about 3 years and made my living by writing articles, of course, actively commenting on them. AND?:)
                      2. +1
                        27 February 2024 22: 07
                        2000 a year?! Tryndets lol
                        So they would immediately say: a resident of the Internet.
                        I know how much sites pay for articles (News Front, for example, +-5,000 rubles per piece). And I have a fairly accurate idea of ​​how much Western business schools pay their teachers (the most basic, such as language teaching - from 300 €/day; serious ones - 500-1000 €/day).
                        You, comrade, are in very different weight categories with this author (who stopped teaching there because 500-1000 €/day apparently didn’t suit him)...
                      3. -2
                        27 February 2024 22: 17
                        Quote: Alexandretta
                        You, comrade, are in very different weight categories with this author.

                        Yes. Because I know the subject I'm writing about. He doesn't.
                3. +1
                  27 February 2024 12: 35
                  Is Andrey from Chelyabinsk??
                  Ha ha! I also saw information that this author once organized an event on the economic day of Chelyabinsk in Paris for your former governor and his entire team. So we have identified another idiot, the former governor of your region. How come your governor didn’t realize that it was necessary to turn to this person who doesn’t understand anything, but to you?! lol request

                  Smart people have a rule: you need to shut up if you don’t understand something, because it’s possible that you just don’t get it. And the stupid ones are diametrically opposite lol
                  1. -1
                    27 February 2024 13: 17
                    Quote: Alexandretta
                    I also saw information that this author once organized an event on the economic day of Chelyabinsk in Paris for your former governor and his entire team.

                    Do you even understand that a normal manager will not deal with such matters at all? :)))
                    Of course you don't understand. Just like you don’t understand the essence of such events.
                    Quote: Alexandretta
                    How come your governor didn’t realize that it was necessary to turn to this person who doesn’t understand anything, but to you?!

                    I wonder why the governor would contact me on such and such an issue?
                    Quote: Alexandretta
                    Smart people have a rule

                    You don't need to talk about smart people - you don't know anything about it
                    1. 0
                      27 February 2024 13: 28
                      Do you even understand that a normal manager will not deal with such matters at all? :)))
                      Of course you don't understand. Just like you don’t understand the essence of such events.


                      Thank you for the additional confirmation that you are the same financial director of the company as I am a ballerina. You just said that a person who runs an organization whose goal is international economic relations and the development of connections - such a person will not organize any presentations of business in their region for any governors fool
                      I don’t know the details of their affairs, but this event is clear to even an ignorant person (even an idiot) that this case was strictly according to the profile of the organizer.

                      In short: better go talk to fools like you who will believe in your nonsense and who also don’t understand anything about the global economy.
                  2. -1
                    27 February 2024 13: 20
                    Quote: Alexandretta
                    former governor of your region

                    Dubrovsky or what? :)))) A thief and an incompetent who could not properly organize the removal of garbage from Chelyabinsk? And he stole to such an extent that even those from above could not turn a blind eye to him?
                    Are you using HIM as an example? laughing
                    1. 0
                      27 February 2024 13: 35
                      I don’t remember his name anymore, but this is the one who was your oligarch for bread and whom Putin later removed.
                      I read that the day of the Chelyabinsk region in Paris was organized under his rule.
                      And I repeat: stop further confirming that you have absolutely nothing to do with business. Since this has yet to be figured out, it is necessary to bring the above argument - and it does not matter whether it is this or some other one. A brother-in-law sees his brother-in-law from afar. And in your case, I see not a brother-in-law, but one of those whom I kicked out of work.
                      1. 0
                        27 February 2024 14: 06
                        It’s not that I particularly want to defend the author - it’s not my business at all - but your ears curl into a tube when you read nonsense and nonsense in the comments from pedal horses who don’t think at all.

                        I am rather not for the author, but against the p...bolt commentators.
                        Yolki, my cleaning lady in economics understands more than 90% of the “experts” in the comments negative They took two lines out of context and are running around with them like fools with a mortar. Show me another finger and you won’t fall asleep with delight. laughing

                        And the author has an absolutely clear vision of the issue. And those who don’t understand what petrodollars are and so on would be better off keeping quiet...
                      2. 0
                        27 February 2024 14: 34
                        Quote: Alexandretta
                        I am rather not for the author, but against the p...bolt commentators.

                        So leave the resource - and there will be one less of these on VO :)))
                        Quote: Alexandretta
                        And the author has an absolutely clear vision of the issue.

                        And, alas, absolutely wrong. But you can believe whatever you want - we have a free country.
                        Quote: Alexandretta
                        but your ears curl up when you read nonsense and nonsense in comments from pedal horses who don’t think at all.

                        Alas, you are unable to even realize how entertaining you look, while simultaneously declaring that:
                        1) You do not understand anything about the issues that the author spoke about and are not ready to discuss them on their merits
                        2) The author is certainly right, and anyone who doesn’t think so is a fool
                        Quote: Alexandretta
                        You just said that a person who runs an organization whose goal is international economic relations and the development of connections - such a person will not organize any presentations of business in their region for any governors

                        (heavy sigh) I said that a normal manager does not become the head of an organization for the purpose of developing international relations. This is a completely different role, having practically nothing to do with economics.
                        Alas, your level does not allow you to understand what your interlocutor is saying
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                        27 February 2024 15: 32
                        I said that a normal manager does not become the head of an organization for the purpose of developing international relations. This is a completely different role, having practically nothing to do with economics.

                        I won’t quote all your nonsense - that’s enough for the head.

                        does a normal manager not become the head of an organization for the purpose of developing international relations??
                        Don’t you even realize that you are talking TOTAL BULLSHIT??? fool After this, there is no point in even stuttering about the scale of the stupidity of generalizing into one thousand possible particular cases in professional activities - it somehow fades after your definition of what a manager can and cannot do. fool
                      4. 0
                        27 February 2024 16: 07
                        ...The very purpose of the existence of the organization that the author leads is the development of international trade relations - just look at its website. You managed to evaluate the manager and rant about his nominal priorities, without even having the slightest idea what his structure does belay it's Oscar! fool
                        This is what people call being....a bummer. To my regret, they weren’t even surprised again...
                      5. -1
                        27 February 2024 16: 59
                        Quote: Alexandretta
                        does a normal manager not become the head of an organization for the purpose of developing international relations??
                        Don’t you even realize that you are talking TOTAL BULLSHIT???

                        :))) No. It is you who do not realize that you are talking complete nonsense. And yes, normal managers don’t play these games.
                        Quote: Alexandretta
                        without even having the slightest idea what its structure does

                        You have no idea how well I know what and how such structures do.
                      6. 0
                        27 February 2024 15: 39
                        you look funny, while simultaneously declaring that:
                        1) You do not understand anything about the issues that the author spoke about and are not ready to discuss them on their merits

                        Comrade, in medicine this is called schizophrenia. Did I say that I don’t understand anything about the issues raised by the author??
                        It was about you and people like you. But about yourself - you imagine, father...
                      7. -1
                        27 February 2024 17: 09
                        Quote: Alexandretta
                        Did I say that I don’t understand anything about the issues raised by the author??

                        That is, do you understand? :)))))
                        Quote: Alexandretta
                        Comrade, in medicine this is called schizophrenia.

                        Comrade, this is called a trick question :))))
                        Well, if you UNDERSTAND these issues, take the trouble to explain how, if available
                        1. Putin, who from 2000 to 2008 pushed the Russian Federation into the WTO (this is his PERSONAL initiative, which is what he talked about);
                        2. A revenue management structure in which up to 45% of federal budget revenues are generated in relation to the ruble-dollar exchange rate and the cost of our oil and gas on foreign exchanges
                        The author manages to write about dedollarization with Putin’s rise to power?
                      8. +1
                        27 February 2024 20: 22
                        :))) Another great Manichean has been found, for whom everything is either black or white.
                        But this is not Manichaeism, but ordinary mental color blindness.

                        To answer naivety in detail, you need to write pages in your comments - which is what the Chelyabinsk resident is pushing me to do - well, okay, but as briefly as possible:
                        1)
                        The author has everything right, only when he says “from the moment of arrival” - he is a generalization without clarification - he just had to put “from the moment of realizing that the West will never accept Russia into its ranks and only wishes harm to it” - i.e. . not in the very first years of his reign, but quite soon. Putin pushed Russia into NATO at one time and into the EU - so what?
                        2)
                        In current times, when - and for more than half a century now - EVERYTHING in the field of oil and gas of the world economy works only on the dollar + when, for the same reason, the state reserves of all countries consist mainly of dollars - you have to be an idiot to imagine that from the petrodollar system and the American debt = dollar can be gotten rid of by snapping your fingers.
                        The process takes DECADES, and this is even with desperate, bloody, effective resistance from the first military force on the planet.
                        A revenue management structure in which up to 45% of federal budget revenues are generated in relation to the ruble-dollar exchange rate and the cost of our oil and gas on foreign exchanges
                        - it’s by asking such stupid questions that you feel smart??? The budget of almost EVERY country is tied to where it receives its main income. It’s easy for sheep to talk about the ease of getting rid of fossil exporters. fuel from a system imposed on the world and operating for half a century. This is possible ONLY with global market restructuring, and not by action in a single country, in isolation from world realities. And the theses that “from one Kabbalah we will get entangled in another” are complete nonsense from those who do not understand what the USA is and that the system cannot be worse for the world than the petrodollar system.

                        But. NOBODY intends to dramatically destroy the American economy = dollar - and this is out of personal interests: the world economy is so mired in the dollar that if it is destroyed in 10, and not in 40-50 years, the whole world will be in ruins. Drugs should be eliminated from the body as slowly as possible.

                        De-dollarization, launched by Putin and about which the author speaks, is primarily an impact on global economic processes, and not a meaningless (if one-sided) fuss at the national level. Naturally, the role of the dollar and the American loan will have a central role in the world economy for more than 10 years. But it was Putin, in collusion with China, who began the process of massively getting rid of American bonds. At the same time, they are pushing ALL of their supporters to do the same, period, and they are doing a good job of it. For example, Egypt has reduced its assets in American loans by 80% over the past couple of years. The same process is taking place in Indonesia's huge economy. And this is just the beginning. And nature abhors a vacuum: as soon as the rejection of the dollar/American Bond reaches a certain dash level, an alternative will necessarily arise. This level has not yet been reached. But that's it for now.

                        You are talking myopically about the issue at the national level, completely ignoring the global component. That is, you are a tactician who imagines himself as a strategist.
                        And naturally, I agree with the author that the war in Ukraine is the third dollar war, since I knew even without his kind reminder that the first dollar war was the war in Iraq. As soon as Saddam Hussein began selling his oil for euros, the United States began to destroy the country within 3 weeks. The second dollar war is the war in Libya. As soon as Gaddafi started talking about an alternative to the dollar and the gold Dinar, he, along with Libya, was immediately destroyed.

                        YES - Putin, in tandem with China, launched the process of de-alorization of the world economy. And whoever doesn’t understand this is just a blind, unreasonable mole.

                        This is me briefly - without going into details!
                      9. -2
                        27 February 2024 22: 14
                        Quote: Alexandretta
                        The author has everything right, only when he says “from the moment of arrival” - he is a generalization without clarification - he just had to put “from the moment of realizing that the West will never accept Russia into its ranks and only wishes harm to it” -

                        A very funny white lie. No, I understand that after your praises to the author all you have left is to declare that black is soft, and that in the phrase
                        Dedollarization was initiated by Moscow immediately after Putin came to power

                        “immediately after Putin came to power” = “from the moment of realizing that the West will never accept Russia into its ranks and only wishes harm to it” but this is really a shame.
                        Quote: Alexandretta
                        The budget of almost EVERY country is tied to where it receives its main income. It’s easy for sheep to talk about the ease of getting rid of fossil exporters. fuel from a system imposed on the world and operating for half a century.

                        That is, you have essentially nothing to say - you go into general discussions, changing concepts along the way.
                        Dear man, be kind enough to answer what is asked of you, and not what you would like to answer. I didn’t ask you about when we will get rid of hydrocarbon income. I asked you, I quote
                        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                        2. Revenue management structure, in which up to 45% of federal budget revenues are generated in relation to the ruble/dollar exchange rate and the cost of our oil and gas on foreign exchanges
                        The author manages to write about dedollarization with Putin’s rise to power?

                        You claim to know the subject, don't you? Then you must understand that budget revenues are one thing, but their linkage to the ruble/dollar exchange rate and the price of oil on foreign exchanges is completely different.
                        If you, a “specialist”, are unable to understand this, read here
                        https://topwar.ru/178378-poleznye-iskopaemye-i-jekonomika-rf-kto-zdes-na-kogo-rabotaet.html
                        I would write “try to argue on the merits,” but this is pointless - your answers indicate that apart from lies and general reasoning, you are not suitable for anything.
                        Quote: Alexandretta
                        De-dollarization, launched by Putin and about which the author speaks, is primarily an impact on global economic processes, and not a meaningless (if one-sided) fuss at the national level.

                        Yes. At the same time, the deliverance of the Russian Federation and China from investments in the US national debt is put forward as a success of de-dollarization.
                        At the same time, neither you nor the author are able to realize that the refusal of both the Russian Federation and China does not change ANYTHING from the word “at all.” For one simple reason - despite the refusals of the Russian Federation and China, the US national debt is GROWING. That is, there are more than a lot of structures and states in the world that are ready to buy what the Russian Federation and China got rid of, and much more that the United States will release
                        I’m not saying that only “specialists” like you and the author managed to confuse dedollarization and public debt, although these are completely different things.
                        Then, I guess I’ll say goodbye to you, because, as one would expect, I didn’t expect any reasonable answer from you to the question posed. And I can't wait.
                      10. +1
                        27 February 2024 23: 22
                        Yes. At the same time, the deliverance of the Russian Federation and China from investments in the US national debt is put forward as a success of de-dollarization.
                        At the same time, neither you nor the author are able to realize that the refusal of both the Russian Federation and China does not change ANYTHING from the word “at all.” For one simple reason - despite the refusals of the Russian Federation and China, the US national debt is GROWING. That is, there are more than a lot of structures and states in the world that are ready to buy what the Russian Federation and China got rid of, and much more that the United States will release

                        Commenting on all your nonsense means turning into a cripple living on the Internet.
                        Let’s dwell on the fact that you are just a donkey who cannot see beyond his nose and who stupidly reflects on the steadfastness of what, following Russia and China, more and more countries of the world are beginning to struggle with. If you are alive, you will see the result in 20-30 years. In current realities, pegging the ruble to the dollar and quoting our energy resources on foreign exchanges is a necessity. at the moment and for years to come there is no way around this - all alternative options are just the opinion of a bunch of suckers who imagined that they understand something. But fortunately, all of these, to the maximum extent, have only the power of chatter on the Internet lol
                      11. +1
                        27 February 2024 23: 29
                        managed to confuse dedollarization and public debt, although these are completely different things.

                        Nobody confuses anything. It’s just that the downs are not aware of the direct vital connection between Bond and his currency, the demand for the latter and the interest rate on which the future of America depends.
                      12. +1
                        28 February 2024 07: 21
                        For those who are especially gifted, I’ll paraphrase again (although against the rams, the hope that it will come is scanty.
                        The author clearly stated, in Russian, in black and white:
                        Simultaneously with getting rid of American treasury bonds, the Russian Federation initiated a progressive process of liberating the world from the “petrodollar” system.

                        Smart people differ from rams in that they do not pass the text through their prisms of ram archetypes, but immediately understand what exactly is written.

                        The main word of the sentence is “WORLD” (! and not Russia!) - and you rush around with your severance tax garter to the exchange rate of oil and the dollar, like a mortar, presenting it as a colossal contradiction. fool

                        No one (the USA) is interested in Russia with its internal affairs. And it would not be of interest to this day if Russia were punished purely for its internal problems, even if to the detriment of the dollar, because The maximum weight of dollar turnover in the Russian economy relative to the world is tiny - a mosquito bite.

                        But Putin realizes the obvious (more precisely: he realized!) - it is IMPOSSIBLE not only to break, but even to put serious spokes in the wheels of the enemy’s economy without acting on a GLOBAL scale. I have already indicated the tip of the iceberg of his actions. He tried in a kind way - this is exactly what you scribbled there: he was eager to join the WTO and NATO (and the EU). And they let him know that they are interested in Russia ONLY in its 1991 form = NOBODY overseas intends to allow Russia to prosper. That's all. And no decoupling from the dollar and oil exchange rates on Western exchanges will NEVER save you! No one will simply be allowed to escape.

                        Yes, I will disappoint you: Russia is not Liechtenstein - it does not deal only with its purely internal problems - and not because of the nonsense that I almost hear from you again (how stupid and thieving Russian rulers are, in short, and do not understand such simple things, to which even I reached), but because she has no options - she will NEVER prosper inside until she firmly protects herself from the outside. And this is possible not by pushing the enemy further away (although this is the only word in the official version, which is understandable), but only through an attack and weakening of the latter’s position, in particular its petrodollar system = dollar = government bonds. This is what Russia is doing. Especially the last 2 years. And I know about the current demand for their bonds - America has not been discovered. But you have already proven your mole myopia many times - there is no point in discussing with you about what all this will lead to in the long term.
                4. +1
                  27 February 2024 14: 27
                  ... I even got confused and read
                  https://topwar.ru/178094-o-dedollarizacii-bjudzhete-rf-nefti-i-gaze.html
                  AND? The article is smart. Only, firstly, the logic is a little outdated - it’s 2020, when they didn’t even imagine that it was possible to sell energy resources and not for dollars, and secondly, it in no way contradicts the current article. You just need to think.

                  In short, read this article from 2022 by this author, then maybe you will understand something from what is happening https://www.geopolitika.ru/article/konflikt-na-ukraine-genezis. If you don’t understand, I won’t be surprised!
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                    27 February 2024 17: 14
                    Quote: Alexandretta
                    secondly, it does not contradict the current article in any way.

                    The question was asked to you above. Doesn't contradict, yeah.
                5. +1
                  28 February 2024 18: 29
                  Good friend, you certainly did well for explaining in your article to that part of the people who are far from economics, the truisms of the components of the mineral extraction tax - the banal knowledge of a first-year faculty member. economy.

                  As for your ideas of a panacea for all the ills of budget formation in the form of getting rid of the reference to the dollar and oil exchange rates on the stock exchange - the height of naivety (to remain polite). And this is being told to you by a person who is for dedollarization with both hands. This is so obvious that I won’t even waste time discussing a whole range of possible and much more reasonable and less painful solutions in the field of taxation and exploitation of natural resources (you have everything “brilliantly” simple - nationalize!! :)))
                  If your socio-professional level is sufficient (doc confirmation in PM) - I will give you the coordinates of one personal American friend - one of the largest recognized experts in the world on pipelines, oil and gas - he will explain it to you on his fingers.

                  Your problem is that for some reason you imagined the stupidity that the solution to the problem of dollar peg of the economy/dedollarization lies in the internal reforms of countries - Russia in this case. This can only be imagined by those who are severely divorced from knowledge of the structure of the pestilence market and from the awareness that viable long-term solutions can take place exclusively (!) on a global scale, or not take place at all, due to lack of meaning. And this is war. More precisely, war. We have been members of them for the 23rd year already. And this is for a much longer period than a decade.

                  I don’t have time, unlike other comrades, to enter into polemics with one of the “commetrators” - and it’s simply not interesting. If something is not clear - so much the worse for you - read more books in this case and find out how to get out of your tunnel vision by developing peripheral...

                  NB: about your “analysis” of the correspondence of my status and position to the projects developed by my organization (which you naturally do not have and cannot even have the remotest idea about), I will, of course, remain silent - you yourself understand: the level of such conclusions is the level of money with seeds on benches on the farm.
                  1. -2
                    28 February 2024 22: 46
                    Quote: NESTERENKO
                    Your problem is that for some reason you imagined the stupidity that the solution to the problem of dollar peg of the economy/dedollarization lies in the internal reforms of countries - Russia in this case.

                    Your problem is that you, apparently even after reading my articles, were unable to understand what was written in them. Although there at the very beginning of the very first article, for those reading diagonally it says
                    Briefly for those who do not have time to read the entire article: no amount of dedollarization, of course, will reduce, and cannot reduce, our dependence on the dollar exchange rate

                    Therefore, your speech is completely empty. In the third article, I listed as many as six advantages of the proposed scheme, but there is no dedollarization there.
                    Quote: NESTERENKO
                    As for your ideas of a panacea for all the ills of budget formation in the form of getting rid of the reference to the dollar and oil exchange rates on the stock exchange - the height of naivety (to remain polite).

                    Any criticism is interesting when it is on the merits of the issue. Yours does not have such qualities. Yes, and cannot possess.
                    Quote: NESTERENKO
                    I don’t have time, unlike other comrades, to enter into polemics with one of the “commetrators” - and it’s simply not interesting.

                    So, why then this comment of yours? :)))) Why did you read my materials? :)))) Record disagreement? So your position is already clear - from your article. “I’ve been chasing you for three days to tell you how indifferent you are to me!”
                    Quote: NESTERENKO
                    If your socio-professional level is sufficient (document confirmation in PM) - I will give you the coordinates of one personal American friend

                    Let's clarify. In your article you manage to:
                    1. Confuse the processes of dedollarization and the American national debt, which is absolutely not the same thing, and the connection is very indirect;
                    2. Make factual errors. For example, you write
                    With the collapse in 1971 of the Bretton Woods agreements, which had been in force since 1944, world dependence on the US dollar began to decline critically for the US economy

                    and according to you, the medicine was invented in 1979.
                    A way has been found.
                    In 1979, the “petrodollar” was born as part of the US-Saudi economic cooperation agreement: “oil for dollars.”

                    Everything would be fine, but the percentage share of the US dollar in world foreign exchange reserves in 1971-1978 (since this indicator is so dear to you) remained stable, and (surprise!) In 1979 it went down sharply.
                    You write
                    Dedollarization was initiated by Moscow immediately after Putin came to power

                    Although you cannot help but know that it was Putin who insistently pushed the Russian Federation into the WTO, trying to integrate the country into the existing Western economic model...
                    You write to me
                    Quote: NESTERENKO
                    figure out how to get out of your tunnel vision by developing peripheral

                    And you yourself reduce all de-dollarization to a reduction in investments in American debts... Point blank without seeing that the US national debt is still GROWING, that is, it is deeply violet for the refusal of the Russian Federation and the reduction of Chinese investments.
                    When talking about dedollarization, you did not say a word about such an indicator as the percentage share of the US dollar in international trade - it simply does not exist for you. Sorry, you can’t see the forest for the trees, but you’re talking about my tunnel vision...
                    And, in light of the above, what use is your American friend to me?
                    Quote: NESTERENKO
                    o your “analysis” of the suitability of my status

                    Let's do it this way. I sincerely apologize to you for my remarks. Here I fell for the provocateur, I should not have done this. My opinion about your professionalism is exactly what I wrote above, and it is completely impartial. But I shouldn't have spoken about you publicly. This is impolite, and by commenting on your work, I have sunk to the level of this Alexandretta, or whatever his name is.
                    I should have limited myself to criticizing your article, and not you personally.
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                    28 February 2024 23: 09
                    And yes, I completely forgot.
                    When you write
                    Quote: NESTERENKO
                    For some reason you imagined the stupidity of the fact that the solution to the problem of dollar peg of the economy/de-dollarization lies in the internal reforms of countries - Russia in this case. This can only be imagined by those who are severely divorced from knowledge of the structure of the pestilence market and from the awareness that viable long-term solutions can take place exclusively (!) on a global scale, or not take place at all, due to lack of meaning.

                    You demonstrate a lack of understanding of these very long-term solutions on a global scale. You limit yourself to the goal of de-dollarization, but you don't want to look at what comes after. It turns out that dedollarization in itself is a benefit and a goal for which the Russian Federation needs to fight.
                    So, if you looked at things a little more broadly, you would understand that... the de-dollarization of the Russian Federation is neither hot nor cold. Because by dumping the dollar, we will simply get another currency as a world currency. Yuan or euro (yuan, of course) - it doesn’t matter. The important thing is that fundamentally nothing will change for the Russian Federation. The only significant change would be possible if the ruble became a world currency, but this is a deliberate utopia.
                    That is why, in order to normalize the situation in the country, we first of all need to use internal tools to stabilize the economy. Because there are enough countries in the world with much more stable economic conditions than ours, and no dollars prevent them from creating these conditions. And we, having brilliant support in the form of oil and gas and other periodic tables, put our real sector of the economy in the 278th position of the Kama Sutra
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                      2 March 2024 11: 23
                      Yes, everyone is aware of the evidence that you present. That is why they are called evidence.
                      I won’t go into discussions - just a couple of interrelated elements (which will either help you understand or not - otherwise it doesn’t matter):
                      1)
                      There is an absolutely direct correlation between the wars in Iraq and Libya and the defense of the hegemony of the American dollar. It does not exist only for laymen who really believe in the compassion of Washington, who wants to bring the light of democracy to the savages who are deprived of it (as well as in the fact that the Portuguese discovered America and destroyed part of all life in it not for the sake of gold, but for the sake of saving the savages with the light of Catholicism ).
                      And in the era of the murder of hundreds of thousands and the complete destruction of these two countries, from a myopic-visible position, we were talking about negligible (!) amounts of risk relative to world dollar turnover.
                      If the American financial system had worked according to your beliefs, these two wars would never have taken place. For lack of meaning.
                      2)
                      Speaking about the US government loan... you are pulling out just one link from a long chain of interconnected elements, which also includes the petrodollar and the current logic of structuring government currency baskets and the direction of financial flows from the profits of the global oil and gas sector, etc.
                      You, unlike me, who personally partly lives in this, have no serious idea about the system of thinking and the logic of making political and military decisions of the American deep state (if, in general, I began to publish sharply around the world only now, and not 15 years ago, this is solely due to the beginning of the open phase of the US war against Russia and the decision to turn away from a number of personal, very serious comrades in the states and London).
                      3)
                      quote from one of my articles from the 22nd. Which will seem to contradict what I said earlier. But it will seem only to laymen...
                      For this I say goodbye - all the best wink
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                        2 March 2024 11: 50
                        Good afternoon!
                        Well, since you do not respond to my complaints about your article, then, obviously, the discussion died without being born.
                        Quote: NESTERENKO
                        There is an absolutely direct correlation between the wars in Iraq and Libya and the defense of the hegemony of the American dollar.

                        It’s only strange that you don’t add Yugoslavia to this list.
                        Quote: NESTERENKO
                        Speaking of the US government loan... you are pulling out just one link from a long chain of interconnected elements

                        Sorry, but it’s not me, but you in your article that essentially reduces all dedollarization to a loan, and I don’t agree with this.
                        Quote: NESTERENKO
                        quote from one of my articles from the 22nd.

                        It’s actually not clear why she’s here. Yes, it complements what you said in the article, but why is it?
                        Quote: NESTERENKO
                        For this I say goodbye - all the best

                        And all the best to you.
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      24 February 2024 07: 11
      I believe that by losing 300 billion (and in fact much less) the GDP was programmed. He knew that the West would take this bait. And the loss itself, compared to the effect, is completely insignificant.
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        24 February 2024 07: 18
        Has anyone calculated the effect of the West purchasing weapons for Kyiv even for half of this amount? No, I don’t doubt that the wisest know more and see further, I’m just curious.
      2. +6
        24 February 2024 09: 07
        And what is the effect, tell me. Inside the country I see it - people spit and use unkind words to remember the hands of the Kremlin leadership. Just don’t quote the author, try it yourself
        1. 0
          24 February 2024 15: 53
          We must not spit, but enjoy and admire, stabilize and unite fellow
          1. -1
            24 February 2024 15: 55
            Completely break your forehead in front of the Kremlin god? Add... I understand sarcasm...
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              24 February 2024 16: 05


              From the imperishable
      3. 0
        26 February 2024 11: 27
        Quote from Wolfskin1993
        I believe that by losing 300 billion (and in fact much less) the GDP was programmed. He knew that the West would take this bait
        Previously, this was called the delirium of a madman, but now it’s called “nothing, as it were...”. In the West, “the whole world” is collecting a hundred lemons for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but for Russia, 300 billion dollars is nothing...
        If you even know the thoughts of VVP, you were probably sitting under his bed when he carelessly expressed them out loud...... But it’s not just about $300 billion, for which Nabiullina submitted her resignation at the beginning of the SVO.
        The fact is that the financial policy of the Russian Federation from the 90s to the present day leads to capital flight of tens and hundreds of billions of dollars every year. According to official data from the same Nabiullina.
      4. -2
        26 February 2024 14: 51
        Quote from Wolfskin1993
        I believe that by losing 300 billion (and in fact much less) the GDP was programmed. He knew that the West would take this bait. And the loss itself, compared to the effect, is completely insignificant.

        A beautiful fairy tale))) But why didn’t the GDP program the promotion of our military-industrial complex for these same 300 billion? For some reason, it seems to me that with such programming, ALL the goals of the SVO would have been achieved in the very first months of this very SVO.
    3. AAK
      +7
      24 February 2024 12: 06
      Well, yes - well, yes... "...the hopes of young men are nourished..." the author of this opus is a naive Chukchi youth... firstly, hypothetically they will "lose" about 200, but not 300, in the unlikely event of Russian confiscation billions of killed raccoons not the governments of the mentioned states, i.e. not France, the Netherlands, Switzerland, etc., but a business registered in these states, and in many ways one that continued to work for us, or did not sell assets, so this will already be the so-called. “friendly fire”, after which, even with the termination of the SVO, no one will work with us later...
      secondly, the bourgeoisie can “mirror” such a step in relation to the assets of our “Pinocchio” in these countries, but the “evil Pinocchio” in this case will throw a harsh complaint at the Guarantor... in general, this forecast is very unlikely, we have more of a “Leopoldism” "thriving...
    4. +2
      24 February 2024 18: 53
      Confiscation of Russian assets will be a strategic victory for Moscow

      Am I the only one who thinks that this “strategic victory” is akin to last year’s strategic victory near Kharkov, the impending Minsk-3, or the success in getting rid of imported aircraft and replacing them with ours?
  2. +11
    24 February 2024 06: 03
    So much verbiage. Everything described above can be fit into 10-20 lines.
    1. +10
      24 February 2024 07: 00
      About the state reputation made me laugh...What are you talking about, the author? As long as there is a dollar in the world, on which 90% of the world's economy is tied, this is reputation. And everything else written in the article is a wet dream
      1. -6
        24 February 2024 07: 30
        Quote from: dmi.pris1
        As long as there is a dollar in the world, on which 90% of the world's economy is tied

        that is, the dollar is a certain standard that is not tied to anything? Periodically collapsing the markets of either energy resources or metals, etc., the dollar sucks their purchasing power out of national currencies and 90% of money holders in the world wish they had a more reliable standard. Please note that money is gradually losing one of its basic properties - the property of accumulation! due to constant dollar inflation. While you save a large amount, it will lose due to inflation! Therefore, abandoning the dollar is an urgent need that all representatives of industrial capital are aware of. As soon as the energy ruble appears, the dollar will deflate
        1. +9
          24 February 2024 09: 03
          Quote: aybolyt678
          Therefore, abandoning the dollar is an urgent need that all representatives of industrial capital are aware of.


          And where do the “representatives of industrial capital” store their savings? Maybe in rubles? In rupees? Rhetorical question...

          Speaking of national currencies, not so long ago Russia began to trade with India in national currency, selling energy resources and receiving rupees for it, and as a result a problem arose when Russian companies began to accumulate rupees, but there was nothing to spend them on in India, because The currency itself is not convertible... Companies (according to rumors) of course found a way out and began to convert rupees into cryptocurrency and withdraw funds through the UAE (buying stablecoins like USDT - which are tied to dollars) - but the sediment, as they say, remained) this looks especially interesting, against the background of the state’s disapproval of cryptocurrency in principle ( ban as a means of payment) but they are such double standards...

          Now let’s imagine any other countries that suddenly decided to trade in the national market. currencies, and their currencies are non-convertible, so what should we do? arrange dances with a tambourine like our companies do? Obviously not an option... so for now there is no alternative to the dollar/euro and will not appear in the near future, not even visible on the horizon, of course there is the yuan but it has the same problem as the rupee (it is not a freely convertible currency), the only thing China has what to buy on the local market and the yuan will be useful for Russian companies, but it is not available as a means of international payments.

          There is also the problem of servicing the US debt, but I think they will find a way out, and if they come up with an alternative to the dollar, it will be in the US, and there will be some kind of digital American dollar 2.0 - when paper is replaced with something else, but the essence of the system will remain the same (under control of the US Federal Reserve)
          1. +3
            24 February 2024 09: 43
            Quote: Aleksandr21
            And where do the “representatives of industrial capital” store their savings? Maybe in rubles? In rupees? Rhetorical question...

            The main accumulations of representatives of industrial capital are, naturally, means of production. Money is just a means of exchange for them. And there is nothing rhetorical here.
            Remember how bitcoins appeared. At first it didn’t fit in my head that it would be the same with the ER (energy ruble). This is a long and gradual process.
            1. +1
              24 February 2024 09: 56
              Quote: aybolyt678
              The main accumulations of representatives of industrial capital are, naturally, means of production. Money is just a means of exchange for them. And there is nothing rhetorical here.


              In my understanding, a “representative of industrial capital” is an oligarch/tycoon who owns production, and these big guys keep their savings in dollars/euros in the vast majority of the world (from America - Europe - to Asia), and they make payments in these currencies. ..that’s why the question is rhetorical because They do not store their savings in rubles or other non-convertible currencies; they also have gold/stocks/real estate, etc. but that's a slightly separate topic.
              1. +2
                24 February 2024 10: 50
                Quote: Aleksandr21
                In my understanding, a “representative of industrial capital” is an oligarch/tycoon who owns production,

                no, this is the owner of any production.
          2. +3
            24 February 2024 23: 34
            It is obvious that the transition to trading in national currencies is poorly thought out and organized. There is no body that would be responsible for organizing exactly such trade. Enterprises and firms of the Russian Federation are trying to independently conclude contracts for the sale/purchase of any goods valued in national currencies. It's not working out very well yet. Apparently a different order is needed. For example, the option of connecting trade missions of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Why are the functions of trade missions expanding in countries with which the Russian Federation trades or plans to trade? They are charged with studying the market conditions of the host country, its needs, content, balance of payments. Compiling catalogs of goods from the host country and those goods that the Russian Federation can offer, organizing advertising campaigns. Of course, employees of sales missions should be financially interested in the results of their work.
            Further, mutual settlements are carried out by divisions at trade missions of authorized banks of the Russian Federation, on the one hand, and authorized banks of the host country, on the other hand. Example. The Russian Federation buys coffee from Brazil, Brazil buys fertilizer from the Russian Federation. A Brazilian farmer selects the fertilizers he needs from a catalog; prices are indicated in Brazilian currency; the farmer either agrees or bargains. For a fertilizer seller, prices are indicated in Russian currency (rubles), the seller either agrees or negotiates. The results of many such operations go to the currency exchange in Moscow, for example, where the current exchange rates of Brazil and the Russian Federation are determined. In fact, this is an exchange formalized through money, like imported barter. . .
            1. 0
              25 February 2024 19: 53
              Quote: SavranP
              There is no body that would be responsible for organizing exactly such trade.

              You forget that nowadays there is capitalism and such a scheme is not suitable for capitalists. In 1x, you transfer all transactions COMPLETELY under the control of the state. in 2x, the choice turns out to be limited to those whom you have selected, not to mention the fact that in the age of the Internet, they themselves can easily cope with the selection. For this to work, you need either the USSR or full trust of business in the state and its transparency. there is neither one nor the other, therefore it does not fit our realities, despite the fact that the idea is not bad. and I don’t think it’s worth convening another “organ” simply as a hangout place for the children of the “elite” abroad..
            2. +1
              25 February 2024 22: 10
              Further, mutual settlements are carried out by divisions at trade missions of authorized banks of the Russian Federation, on the one hand, and authorized banks of the host country, on the other hand.

              There is nothing new here. For settlements without dollars, settlements in other currencies can be used. And if in national ones, then clearing settlement centers will be used here, and the balance will still be settled in convertible currency or bitcoins. And the prices are world prices and will be calculated conditionally through the dollar, euro or yuan.
              1. 0
                27 February 2024 03: 31
                "...these prices are global and will be calculated conditionally in dollars, euros...". Does Russia need this? Is the dollar a convertible currency? And what is he provided with? Your faith and the faith of people like you. The “Shining City on a Hill”, through the efforts of the Jewish clans of the Rothschilds, Rockefellers and others like them, who seized power over the world financial system based on the dollar, turned into a fetid swamp where even frogs do not croak. The dollar is a grandiose financial pyramid, close to the end. Financial experts in the United States write about this. The authorities of countries where they have realized this are trying to carefully get rid of dollar dependence without simultaneously causing an avalanche-like collapse of the dollar. The consequences of such a collapse for the global economy are unpredictable; sensible economic authorities in other countries are therefore trying to put the brakes on the collapse of the dollar. But not the US authorities, for them the worse the better: others will pay. The confidence and recklessness of a drug addict.
        2. +5
          24 February 2024 11: 04
          Fresh tradition and hard to believe.
          When and under what conditions will the energy ruble appear? Faster the cancer on the mountain whistles
          1. +1
            24 February 2024 12: 42
            Quote: T.A.V.
            When and under what conditions will the energy ruble appear?

            if it is put up now, then Russia will face wars with Poland, Germany, the Caucasus, and even within Russia because we have many adherents of the owners of money and the emergence of the ERA will end the power of the dollar.
            Now at least it’s clear to win in Ukraine
            1. 0
              25 February 2024 19: 56
              Quote: aybolyt678
              if it is put up now, then Russia will face wars with Poland, Germany, the Caucasus

              Even if we assume that it works, do we really need all these wars? Are we sure to start a war with the whole world? after all
              Quote: aybolyt678
              at least it’s clear to win in Ukraine
              1. +1
                25 February 2024 21: 34
                Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                Even if we assume that it works, do we really need all these wars? Are we sure to start a war with the whole world? after all
                Quote: aybolyt678

                We need to try, and as it develops we will conquer this recipe for the future
                1. +1
                  25 February 2024 22: 23
                  Quote: aybolyt678
                  We need to try, and as it develops we will conquer this recipe for the future

                  try to risk your existence in the hope that the very theoretical energy ruble will replace the dollar in the world? do you think this is reasonable? somehow the stakes in this game are too high.. the winner takes everything, but the chance of winning is somehow small..
                  1. +4
                    26 February 2024 11: 50
                    “If a country chooses shame between war and shame, it will receive both war and shame” - The West does not want to negotiate peacefully with us, so we were left with no choice but to win.
                    1. +1
                      26 February 2024 12: 24
                      Quote: Yuri Vasiliev
                      “If a country chooses shame between war and shame, it will receive both war and shame.”

                      I’m not arguing with you, but I was responding to a thought not about the war, but about the economy and the energy ruble..
                  2. +1
                    26 February 2024 13: 03
                    Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                    try to risk your existence in the hope that the very theoretical energy ruble will replace the dollar in the world?

                    and if you don’t try, it will turn out like in the question “what is better, a terrible ending or horror without end”?
                    1. 0
                      26 February 2024 13: 17
                      Quote: aybolyt678
                      and if you don’t try, it will turn out like in the question “what is better, a terrible ending or horror without end”?

                      You, my friend, are a fatalist... or maybe we’ll still try to develop the economy there, we don’t know where to store and invest money, we’ll make the laws work the same for everyone... it’s not better/simpler/correct that way, right? or do you think that the Russian Federation has a chance to do what the USSR could not do during the period of maximum power? despite the fact that the USSR was not part of the capitalist world..
                      1. +1
                        26 February 2024 13: 26
                        Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                        Do you think that the Russian Federation has a chance to do what the USSR was unable to do during its period of maximum power?

                        of course have. The main thing is to decide on the terminology smile
                      2. 0
                        26 February 2024 13: 28
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        of course have. The main thing is to decide on the terminology

                        And it’s true that it’s me.. there’s always a chance.. the whole question is what? laughing
                      3. +1
                        26 February 2024 14: 11
                        Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                        there is always a chance... the whole question is what?

                        the answer to the question that the USSR could not? relatively speaking, the struggle between capitalism and communism is a struggle for the consciousness of the average person. For capitalism this is Egoism and for communism this is the prevalence of social importance. The herd instinct of animals in humans has developed into various forms of social behavior. The history of Humanity is finite if a person does not sacrifice himself for the sake of society.
        3. -1
          25 February 2024 17: 20
          Quote: aybolyt678
          Please note that money is gradually losing one of its basic properties - the property of accumulation! due to constant dollar inflation.

          money should not have this property. This is one of the cornerstone laws of economics.
          Money must work, that is, invest. And what forces them to invest is precisely the very slight inflation to which the dollar has been committed over the past decades.
          Quote: aybolyt678
          As soon as the energy ruble appears

          Funny. The ruble with its crazy inflation - and the dollar. And yes, tying the ruble to energy resources will do absolutely nothing.
          1. +1
            25 February 2024 19: 47
            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            money should not have this property. This is one of the cornerstone laws of economics.

            type in Yandex - properties of money, open any link, for example to 8th grade social studies, in the basic properties of money, under number 3 it will be written: “Mean of accumulation: saving money for future purchases of goods and services.”

            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            Funny. The ruble with its crazy inflation - and the dollar. And yes, tying the ruble to energy resources will do absolutely nothing.

            no need to laugh! Firstly, I link the energy ruble not to energy resources, but to electricity. Electricity somehow has approximately the same price throughout the country. Such a system has been created. It is absolutely Russian, the entire structure of electricity production and transmission!!!! It has science, energy, workers, engineers, metallurgy... Why not create a monetary unit equivalent to a kilowatt? Any other currencies dance among themselves, between gold, oil, electricity, etc.. and an Eruble is always equal to a kilowatt. You can simply offer this first on the domestic market; industrialists and pensioners will be happy to buy it for a rainy day. Because the simple ruble will grow due to the growth of the dollar, the dollar will grow due to emissions. The energy ruble will cost more accordingly. Over time, he will become a nightmare for the Central Bank! laughing think
            1. -1
              25 February 2024 21: 49
              Quote: aybolyt678
              type in Yandex - properties of money

              Study at the Faculty of Economics for at least the third year.
              Quote: aybolyt678
              in the basic properties of money, under number 3 it will be written: “Mean of accumulation: saving money for future purchases of goods and services.”

              Which does NOT work like that lying in a stocking. To do this, I recommend using at least the good old “Economics” by Brew and McConnell.
              In order for money to be a store of value, it must be invested and constantly increase in value beyond inflation.
              Quote: aybolyt678
              Why not create a monetary unit equivalent to a kilowatt?

              Because the value of money is determined not by its provision, but by the ratio of supply and demand for it. The task of money as the currency of a particular state is to ensure the exchange of goods of this state, the goods that are produced in it and normal economic development. Therefore, you can equate the ruble even to fir cones, even to gold, it will not become any means of accumulation.
              1. 0
                26 February 2024 12: 49
                Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                I recommend strengthening

                ASILITH is your literacy level? lol
                Unfortunately, my level of economic literacy is “to the criticism of political economy” by K. Marx, which I took at the candidate minimum. I would be grateful if you would support your arguments at this level.
                Because the value of money is determined not by its provision, but by the ratio of supply and demand for it.
                - do not confuse the concepts of cost and price. The price is the market value of the raped money smile
                Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

                The task of money as the currency of a particular state is to ensure the exchange of goods of this state, the goods that are produced in it and normal economic development.

                drinks I completely agree with you here. But there is a BUT! I do not propose to print as many energy rubles as electricity is generated, but precisely as much as is needed to ensure the exchange of goods of this state, the goods that are produced in it and normal economic development smile , an energy ruble can have a different price in rubles, dollars, yuan, gold, but corresponds to one kilowatt!
                1. +1
                  26 February 2024 13: 24
                  Quote: aybolyt678
                  ASILITH is your literacy level?

                  This is my attempt to come down to your level.
                  Quote: aybolyt678
                  Unfortunately, my level of economic literacy is “to the criticism of political economy” by K. Marx, which I took at the candidate minimum.

                  That is, near-zero, since economics is clearly not your profile. And rather - near zero with a minus sign, since after passing the recommended minimum it seems to you that you understand something in economics.
                  Quote: aybolyt678
                  I would be grateful if you would support your arguments at this level.

                  I tried, but you don’t like to “master” :) And you didn’t... master the link to the basis of foreign economic theory that I gave above.
                  Quote: aybolyt678
                  - do not confuse the concepts of cost and price. The price is the market value of the raped money

                  Don't use definitions, please. You don't know them.
                  There are 3 definitions of value. The first colloquial one is “cost = price”, which is incorrect. Second definition: value is the labor embodied in a product. That is (since you have some idea about political economy), then cost is the cost that it cost to produce a product.
                  The third definition of the value of a product is a quantitative ratio expressing the value of one product through another. This is the so-called exchange value of a product.
                  So, in your energy ruble, you essentially operate with exchange value, setting the value of the ruble at the level of the cost of the energy resource (you generally operate with price, but the fact is that the energy resource is a natural monopoly, so the price is set on the basis of value, that is, on costs).
                  And it seems to you that by equating the ruble to a kilowatt you will get stability in the price of the ruble, eliminating the influence of inflation. I’m explaining to you that no, you won’t get it, prices in “energy rubles” will rise in price in the same way as in ordinary rubles. Because the same exchange value of the ruble in relation to other goods will be determined by factors other than its exchange value in relation to a kilowatt. Namely, the relationship between supply and demand for money
                  1. 0
                    26 February 2024 13: 52
                    Thank you, I am deeply touched by your condescending attitude smile
                    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                    It seems to you that by equating the ruble to a kilowatt you will get stability in the price of the ruble, eliminating the influence of inflation.

                    It’s not about equating the ruble to a kilowatt, but about what can create a new super-currency, which is calculated based on the cost of electricity in different currencies, something like this. Therefore, prices in energy rubles will not rise in price, because baking a loaf of bread always takes a kilowatt, and any product contains electricity costs. The imported component of goods will become more expensive.
                    In other words, by analogy with the expression “value is labor embodied in a product,” introduce a new definition: “the energy ruble is electricity embodied in a product.” smile
                    I would appreciate detailed criticism
                    1. +1
                      26 February 2024 14: 37
                      Quote: aybolyt678
                      Thank you, I am deeply touched by your condescending attitude

                      You're welcome!
                      Quote: aybolyt678
                      but the fact that it can create a new super-currency, which is calculated based on the cost of electricity in different currencies, something like this.

                      And which one, excuse me, what? :)))))
                      Cost of electricity production All countries have different energy levels. It is produced by hydro, thermal, nuclear, “green” and God knows what kind of energy, all countries have different ways and with different conditions. The production structure changes from year to year, and so does the cost. Well, let’s say you set the ruble, which costs 1 kW in the Russian Federation, 1,2 kW in China and 0,5 kW in some Zanzibar. What next?
                      If you did this within one country (a two-currency standard in the Russian Federation, say), then you, in fact, produced a security that will bring you dividends at the level of price growth per kW. Any investor will first look at the relationship between inflation and rising prices for electricity. energy, and then the value of a given ruble on the domestic market will begin to “walk” depending on this ratio.
                      If you want to convert all the rubles in the Russian Federation into energy rubles, then at the end of the day, in the best case (and you will have to work hard), you will get inflation as the difference between the increase in prices for electricity. energy and rising prices for other goods.
                      Your key mistake in this option is that price increases in a market economy are not proportional to any basis. Inflation of 3% is when some goods have risen in price by 1%, and some by 10%. You can prohibit the ruble from “inflationary” relative to a kilowatt (say, by setting fixed prices), but you cannot prohibit other goods from costing more in kilowatts. Or cheaper in case of stagflation.
                      If you make the energy ruble as a means of payment between countries (like the dollar), then nothing will change at all - the value of the currency is determined by the balance of exports/imports, and the energy ruble will jump like the dollar now.
                      The remaining cases are quotients of the above.
                      1. 0
                        26 February 2024 14: 59
                        you are ignoring some points. Firstly, the ruble is not abolished. The energy ruble is an independent value. Secondly, despite the fact that our networks are a monopoly, the cost of electricity is approximately the same throughout the country.
                        thirdly, electrical networks are a very serious structure that includes almost all industries and even education.
                        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                        The energy ruble will jump like the dollar now.

                        it will not jump, it will be the dollar that will jump, and the imported component of goods. If the native economy begins to produce something for export, then the balance will move in our direction
                      2. +2
                        26 February 2024 15: 32
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        you are ignoring some points. Firstly, the ruble is not abolished. The energy ruble is an independent value.

                        I described this case
                        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                        If you did this within one country (a two-currency standard in the Russian Federation, say), then you, in fact, produced a security that will bring you dividends at the level of price growth per kW. Any investor will first look at the relationship between inflation and rising prices for electricity. energy, and then the value of a given ruble on the domestic market will begin to “walk” depending on this ratio.

                        Simply put, there will be something like a gold standard in the Russian Empire, when during a certain period thereof the value of the gold ruble in ordinary rubles jumped like a happy, cheerful pony on a sunny day.
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        Secondly, despite the fact that our networks are a monopoly, the cost of electricity is approximately the same throughout the country.

                        They are a natural monopoly everywhere. And more or less “equality” of price (but in no case of cost!) in the Russian Federation is achieved by state regulation.
                      3. 0
                        26 February 2024 15: 08
                        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                        The remaining cases are quotients of the above.

                        I practically agree with you, and argue from the need to create some kind of standard alternative to the dollar, which fluctuates from enemy political requests. BUT I definitely like the definition that Value is Energy embodied in a product
                      4. +2
                        26 February 2024 15: 41
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        I argue from the need to create some kind of standard alternative to the dollar, which fluctuates from enemy political requests

                        The dollar doesn't move. The ruble fluctuates around the dollar, and the enemy’s requests have nothing to do with it. We ourselves have made 40-45% of federal budget revenue dependent on gas/oil prices on foreign exchanges and the dollar-ruble exchange rate. So we collapse the ruble every time, fearing the inability of the budget to meet its obligations.
                        This is our personal stupidity
                      5. 0
                        27 February 2024 08: 12
                        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                        The dollar doesn't move. The ruble fluctuates around the dollar, and the enemy’s requests have nothing to do with it.

                        very much to do with it! remember '14! You have a lot of arguments from the “no matter what happens” series.... but not a single one from the “do it right” series
                      6. -1
                        27 February 2024 09: 14
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        very much to do with it! remember '14!

                        I remember him very well. And 2008 too. No enemies, just our impenetrable stupidity.
                        If you want to understand in more detail how we bury ourselves, then here
                        https://topwar.ru/178094-o-dedollarizacii-bjudzhete-rf-nefti-i-gaze.html
                        https://topwar.ru/178378-poleznye-iskopaemye-i-jekonomika-rf-kto-zdes-na-kogo-rabotaet.html
                        https://topwar.ru/178532-o-tom-kak-nashej-strane-pravilno-ispolzovat-dohody-ot-prodazhi-nefti-i-gaza.html
          2. 0
            27 February 2024 23: 05
            Money must work, that is, invest. And it’s that very slight inflation that forces them to invest.


            You can immediately see a person who always sees the world through some kind of narrow-gauge prism and, accordingly, interprets ALL concepts in the same way and, most importantly, who has no serious relationship with real business.

            NATURALLY "
            the basic property of money is the property of accumulation
            "and nothing else.
            Money must work, that is, invest
            . NATURALLY. Only the primary, FUNDAMENTAL goal of any investment is not the need created by inflation, but the desire to accumulate/increase the mass of capital.

            And if I only need protection from inflation, I don’t bother with real investments (the result of which is a double-edged sword - losses can be such that inflation will be baby talk!), I stupidly keep capital in a balanced currency-ruble basket.
  3. -6
    24 February 2024 06: 13
    even without confiscation by states applying a permissive strategy, it only exacerbated the trends developing in the EU markets.

    And a lot more about sustainable development..
    From the point of view of banal erudition, not every individual is able to ignore the system of paradoxical emotions.
    And without emotions there is no point in going on business trips to Paris and New York. They climbed under the west themselves. Now we accomplish the feat of crawling out from under influence. And there only 100-200 people influence our top 30-50.
    Simply, he commanded: print the ruble as much as necessary, without regard to the IMF and other hangers-on. We decide everything ourselves. And emissions, and inflation, and the development of various industries without international divisions.
    And now we are waiting for the partners’ consent to divide the world.
    Or maybe play the balalaika yourself while sitting on the console at the headquarters of the Strategic Missile Forces? Let their pianos burn.
    And no one needs 300 billion frozen, just the sun.
    Selling the sun to the West means more expensive diamonds and oil
  4. +9
    24 February 2024 06: 15
    Confiscation of Russian assets will be a strategic victory for Moscow

    Dear author, it is extremely naive to consider Europe (the global West) stupider than its own bureaucrats: the West will never allow its own loss, and its puppets in our top levels of power will help them in this in every possible way.
    1. 0
      24 February 2024 10: 00
      Quote: Vladimir80
      Dear author, it is extremely naive to consider Europe (the global West) stupider than its own bureaucrats:

      There are already several contradictions in one phrase: Europe is not the global West, but the Indians of this West, our own bureaucrats, do not fight with the West. Their bureaucrats are stupider than ours, and the enemies of their own countries do not see the obvious... And the West has many contradictions. Remember the phrase “the bolivar cannot bear two”??? therefore it’s worth playing on the contradictions of the West
      1. +1
        24 February 2024 10: 30
        Finally a smart comment...
    2. 0
      24 February 2024 21: 00
      Perhaps you are one of those who admired (Western) Europe in Soviet times? The streets there are washed with shampoo; There are too many varieties of cheese and sausage to count, how about beer and wine? Now all of the above exists in Russia, in Moscow the streets are being washed, and in Paris there is dirt and devastation. Europe has already made its own loss, although you cannot see it yet. But the West and “its puppets at our highest levels of power” will not be able to prevent this: the Western puppets were “communists” who made their way to the very top of power in the USSR. The lesson has been learned and the power structure of the Russian authorities (army, special services, military-industrial complex) will try to prevent a repetition. “Whoever was not a revolutionary in his youth has no heart. He who did not become a conservative in adulthood has no mind.”
      1. -1
        24 February 2024 21: 09
        How will we divide Turkey and Poland? Do you think we should take India into our “currency zone” or should we wait? Since they are already falling apart, they need to be divided in advance.
        1. -2
          24 February 2024 21: 34
          Are you part of the mind of Vladimir80? Well, I can only sympathize with him.
          1. -2
            24 February 2024 21: 40
            So is the wicked EU falling apart or not? Will we share or not? If you don’t want to, you’ll have to turn to other specialists. Vaughn Khazin has already created Austria-Hungary and annexed Africa to the Russian currency zone))
      2. 0
        25 February 2024 19: 55
        + + + good
        Quote: SavranP
        “Whoever was not a revolutionary in his youth has no heart. He who did not become a conservative in adulthood has no mind.
        whose wisdom is this??
        1. +1
          27 February 2024 03: 51
          Please excuse me, I don’t remember which particular politician of that time formulated such a coined phrase. It was said about the mass student unrest, supported by youth, in France in the 60s of the last century.
  5. +6
    24 February 2024 06: 23
    Thank you Oleg, I remember your words:
    "The first was the war against Saddam Hussein's Iraq. The second was the war against Muammar Gaddafi's Libya. And the third was the war against Russia on the territory of Ukraine."
  6. +14
    24 February 2024 06: 40
    After the arrest, the Russian Foreign Exchange Service heard so many proposals for symmetrical answers that I lost count of them.
    At this point, it is time to determine the timing and methods of confiscation of those responsible for this financial sabotage. Their names are known and documented.
    Stop treating the Russian people like idiots, explaining to them that the export of strategic raw materials is a panacea for ills, and “owners of factories, newspapers, ships” are obliged to skim the cream and live outside of Russia, according to the procedure approved by the EBN.
    If Russia could do something, it would have done it long ago. In the meantime, there is some kind of nasty, vile, disgusting, cynical game with reality, in which it is impossible to find a more or less intelligible answer to the pressing questions that begin with the word:
    “HOW LONG?”
    1. +6
      24 February 2024 07: 03
      Bravo! Yes, stop holding people for... But apparently the people themselves want to be treated as stupid... Yes
  7. +11
    24 February 2024 06: 44
    Sometimes such authors are surprised. About some kind of strategic defeat. They don’t care what the rest of the world thinks, on the contrary, they believe that intimidating the rest of the world is right. Nevertheless, the dollar against the ruble is worth 90 rubles... So far, our strategic victory is not visible in this regard.
    1. +1
      24 February 2024 12: 37
      Quote: zontov79
      Nevertheless, the dollar against the ruble is worth 90 rubles... So far, our strategic victory is not visible in this regard.

      There is strong inflation in America, and we are at war. Therefore, a simple calculation of 1 in 90 is very good, because it was over 100. Since inflation in America is stronger than in Russia, we can assume that we are winning not strategically, but tactically
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      2. 0
        25 February 2024 20: 17
        Quote: aybolyt678
        There is strong inflation in America, and we are at war.

        according to official data, inflation in the Russian Federation is 6% (which doesn’t look like it at the prices in the store), in the USA it is 3,7%.. don’t wishful thinking, 3,7 is, to put it mildly, not a strong inflation..
        1. +1
          25 February 2024 21: 44
          Compare the purchasing power of the dollar in America and in Russia, is anything surprising? The numbers from statistics do not correspond to reality. Imagine: their products in stores are 3 times more expensive! what does it mean? which means that, according to statistics, they produced a million dollars worth of product and we produced 333000 thousand. It seems that we produced less, but in fact everything is the same. Exchange currency difference is a scam. Which is still working. but it starts to fail.
          1. 0
            25 February 2024 22: 21
            In my opinion, you are still wishful thinking... there are no real prerequisites for the collapse of the US and the dollar yet, or is there something?
            1. 0
              26 February 2024 12: 56
              you see, despite some stability, the dollar is a factor of political instability in the world, if 20 years ago there was not even talk about it, now they are talking about it openly and in a low voice. There is a global social demand, which means there are obvious and secret forces that will rock this phenomenon.
              1. +1
                26 February 2024 13: 11
                Quote: aybolyt678
                There is a global social demand

                is this a conditional concept and where did you come to the conclusion that it is a social world demand? except for the Russian Federation, S. Korea, Iran and maybe a couple of countries - the USA, no one else considers the enemy... they don’t like it, yes, there are a couple dozen more... but not the enemy.. do ordinary people need to dump the dollar? no, they just want to live a normal life... is the dollar/USA blamed for this - I think the majority of the world is not... who will decide to "waste" the dollar to switch to Eruble? capitalist governments (which ones are the most powerful - US, EU)? Why would they need to switch from a dollar controlled by the United States to an eruble controlled by the Russian Federation? no, we understand that this is not bad, why do others need it? they live normally even with the dollar.. but about the world revolution, for the benefit of everyone all over the world.. you know, even the USSR couldn’t do this in the end, but you definitely shouldn’t expect this from the capitalist Russian Federation.. if this happens, it will just happen An eruble instead of a dollar, the system will not change - and why does some “Brazil” need this? so, in my opinion, the implementation of such a reality is very unlikely, since no one in the world, of those who decide, needs it.. and you know - it’s not even about the countries, transnational corporations now have such power and influence that they don’t I am sure that if you install an ardent supporter of the Eruble as President of the United States, he will be able to do this..
                1. 0
                  26 February 2024 13: 23
                  Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                  , transnational corporations now have such power and influence that I’m not sure that if an ardent supporter of the Eruble were installed as President of the United States, he would be able to do it..

                  you are right, the US President will not be able to do this. smile And from your position there are no prerequisites. All arguments are reinforced concrete. But why then conduct SVO?
                  1. +1
                    26 February 2024 13: 32
                    Quote: aybolyt678
                    But why then conduct SVO?

                    I’d rather not write what I think now - a sad opinion that absolutely does not coincide with yours... but I’ll note, in general, so to speak, without reference to the SVO, of course, that in capitalism the main thing is money (the essence of capitalism).. and one more thing There is a proverb “money loves silence”, so the really rich people in the world will never tell how, where, with whom and how much they earned..
                    1. 0
                      26 February 2024 14: 03
                      Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                      therefore, the really rich people in the world will never tell how, where, with whom and how much they earned..

                      and I’ll tell you about the evolution of power - first the leader is responsible for everything, then he shares responsibility with the shaman, then democracy is invented and parliament takes responsibility for the actions of the authorities, and now all these structures are appointed by those really rich people. laughing
                      1. +1
                        26 February 2024 14: 12
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        and I’ll tell you about the evolution of power - first the leader is responsible for everything, then he shares responsibility with the shaman, then democracy is invented and parliament takes responsibility for the actions of the authorities, and now all these structures are appointed by those really rich people.

                        I absolutely agree here hi
  8. +1
    24 February 2024 06: 45
    That's right. Morally and strategically, yes.
    However, this victory of Russia will be trampled down by the West in every possible way.

    Therefore, in order for the victory to be at least “waza-ari”, we will have to work hard, especially our means of influencing the world community (diplomats, journalists, financiers, etc.).

    The war is in the field of ideologies, for the brains of those countries that we call cowardly, succumbing to the dictates of sanctions rhetoric. And therefore, such instruments as BRICS, Arab League, Eurasian Economic Community and our presence in Africa are now also very important.
    1. 0
      25 February 2024 20: 20
      Quote: Feodor13
      The war is in the field of ideologies

      I don’t quite understand you... what ideologies are at war? capitalist with capitalist?
  9. +6
    24 February 2024 06: 46
    We need to tell people who have become victims of robberies that they did not lose, but rather won.
    1. +1
      24 February 2024 14: 12
      And God will punish the robbers or karma, those who were previously robbed by them will look at them askance
  10. +13
    24 February 2024 06: 47
    It is necessary to give away the remaining gold and foreign currency reserves. This way the globalists will fall apart faster. Good plan, I support it!
    1. +2
      24 February 2024 08: 06
      “An Intourist, he speaks well!” - And what exactly is he saying?.... Yes, it’s no wonder, Nadezhda Tsar, to understand him. They demand the Kem volost.
      We fought, they say, so bring it here! - What, what? Kem volost?
      - Let them take it for their health! I thought, Lord! "(c)
  11. +8
    24 February 2024 06: 57
    Quote: Hagakure
    So much verbiage. Everything described above can be fit into 10-20 lines.

    Quote: zontov79
    Sometimes such authors are surprised. About some kind of strategic defeat. They don’t care what the rest of the world thinks, on the contrary, they believe that intimidating the rest of the world is right. Nevertheless, the dollar against the ruble is worth 90 rubles... So far, our strategic victory is not visible in this regard.
    Naibulina will help them (the West) make a dollar worth two hundred rubles and the West will giggle disgustingly at Russia and the GDP.
    1. VLR
      0
      24 February 2024 11: 16
      I’m afraid that this is exactly what will happen after the elections.
  12. +11
    24 February 2024 07: 03
    Quote: antivirus
    And no one needs 300 billion frozen

    That’s how they turned it up, we can’t do anything - they threw out a new slogan - “when we are robbed, it’s our victory!” laughing wassat hi
  13. -1
    24 February 2024 07: 06
    Maybe these 300 billion will remain payment for Ukraine within the borders of Russia
    1. +4
      24 February 2024 08: 34
      Quote: AlekMikh
      Maybe these 300 billion will remain payment for Ukraine within the borders of Russia

      They must definitely return to Russia!
  14. +13
    24 February 2024 07: 08
    You come to the police with a statement that you were robbed, the police explain to you that the thieves will suffer from the loot, it will only be worse for them, and it’s even good that you were robbed, satisfied, you take the statement and go home. this is the article.
  15. +11
    24 February 2024 07: 10
    Still, lawyers are people with professionally deformed brains, just like all narrow specialists. Lawyers make excellent advisors. But if lawyers come to political power...then we get the Minsk Agreements, which end with the words - We were deceived, followed by the Istanbul Agreement, and again - We were deceived.
    1. +1
      24 February 2024 07: 58
      But if lawyers come to political power...
      It depends on which lawyer... smile
    2. +3
      24 February 2024 09: 31
      if lawyers come to political power
      It's more fun when children of lawyers rise to power Yes .
  16. +3
    24 February 2024 09: 37
    This is yet another multi-step move; if the money is withdrawn, the country will still be in the black. Oh, how many of these multi-moves have already happened? what
  17. -7
    24 February 2024 09: 51
    To all gentlemen at once, so as not to get up twice:

    Let’s talk to the guys who are masters of irony about the fact that “they stole from us and we should still be happy about it?”, “We were robbed and this is a victory?” etc.
    – i.e. for those in the tank:
    Pts were confiscated from Russia. significant resources and today, no matter how much it wants, it cannot return them through the confiscation of Western assets in Russia. market.
    I hope there is no need to chew on the reasons why it cannot and will not be able to do this until the (long-awaited) moment when Russian assets are officially confiscated (and not blocked/lost for decades)?
    Confiscation = return of lost money by Russia.

    I repeat for experts and analysts who do not want to make their contribution to the comments, if only the author sheds a tear: all my articles are addressed to the public of France and the French-speaking world https://c-cie.eu/publications-par-pays-la-confiscation-des-actifs -russes/. Some part is being translated into Russian, last but not least, for a little familiarization. the public with what they read, by the way, behind the cordon. Regarding chewing on the topic on 4 pages, and not in 4 lines: comrades, treat the French-speaking public with condescension and understanding - not everyone is an intellectual like you and spends their working time reading hundreds of articles and inappropriately leaving their indelible mark on history in in the form of thousands of comments - there are also those who are not very familiar with the topic and they have to somehow describe in more detail what they are talking about...

    Nota bene: I have always been extremely amused by the fact that the people of no (and the author knows what he is talking about) Western country that hates Russia will never crap on it as much as its own people :)))))))
    1. +3
      24 February 2024 11: 13
      Ah! The rulers got a useless people. But what does the country have to do with it? Great, with enormous potential.. But for the last forty years, there has been no luck with the leadership. And about him...... Something like this, vfftor
      1. 0
        24 February 2024 11: 40
        Yes, I’ll add. Western rulers haven’t screwed up as much as ours. Yes, they are dependent, corrupt, they lie (like everywhere else)... Why should the Western man in the street spread rot on them? Occasionally there are migrants, protests by agricultural producers
    2. -1
      24 February 2024 18: 26
      If, as an explanation for your own article, you also need to write a half-article post to explain what you wrote in the first one, and even with expressions like “I hope you don’t need to chew on this yet...” and “I will repeat for experts and analysts.. ", then, apparently, you are a very bad writer. Downright useless. Sorry.
      1. +1
        25 February 2024 02: 41
        Maybe so. Or maybe, of course, the obvious things need to be explained - and, as always, to 2 categories: kindergarten and imbeciles.
        Everything is somehow clear to me the first time - I ask the author not to classify me as one of the “experts and analysts” mentioned with a grin
        1. +2
          25 February 2024 14: 00
          Quote: Alexandretta
          Maybe so. Or maybe, of course, the obvious things need to be explained - and, as always, to 2 categories: kindergarten and imbeciles.

          Well said, but the list of categories is definitely incomplete; there is another category of alternatively gifted people, we can call them “deliberately misunderstandings.”
  18. +1
    24 February 2024 09: 54
    Good article. Everything is to the point. Moreover, to understand the goals and intermediate results, logic and an unclouded retrospective look are enough.
    The only thing I would correct is that the principle is “Give in to win.” (that is, using the opponent’s strength) is still judo.
    Well, I would like a more detailed consideration of the degradation and loss of trust in Western jurisprudence as a whole. What also affects the economy: insurance, etc. Lloyd, who has been regularly vacuuming up money from all over the world since the 18th century, risks turning into a pumpkin. One lawsuit under the so-called "Yanukovych's loan" is worth it. It turns out that you don’t have to pay off a debt if it was “forced onto you.” Oh how!
    True, this is a game that you can play and... no, not together. And massively.
    “According to World Bank estimates, back in 2010, the total debt of third world countries to economically developed Western countries was about $4 trillion. The West will have a very hard time if developing countries refuse to fulfill their obligations, citing the precedent of the Supreme Court of London.”
    And this is just one example.
    Well, the level of comments is depressing. The fact that everyone is tinkering with economics and politics is understandable. It's like in football. Literally everyone is a specialist. But he can go further and suggest something not in the sense of “you shouldn’t have done that,” but “what to do.” There's a problem with this. Since the model of behavior that logically follows from this cry sounds something like this: “It’s a big deal and go to peace with the powerful Hegemosha. Having first taken off the last of your trousers. Maybe they won’t beat you too hard?”
    This is Gorbachevism in its purest form. If someone has not learned from those mistakes, then who is his doctor?
  19. +2
    24 February 2024 10: 20
    What else would these bastards be given a bite to make them choke sooner?
    1. -1
      24 February 2024 12: 34
      Yes, it reminded me of the joke about the collective farm chairman and the damned weevil
  20. BAI
    +2
    24 February 2024 10: 34
    De-dollarization was initiated by Moscow immediately after Putin came to power and is one of the main real reasons for the war in Ukraine.

    Why didn’t the States start a war with the EU after the introduction of the Euro?
  21. +6
    24 February 2024 10: 41
    1. The main bank of the Russian Federation does not have access to the stolen gold and currency reserves, so they are “paralyzed”, but have not yet been formally assigned to the EU=NATO.
    2. After the theft of gold and foreign currency reserves, the whole world was waiting for retaliatory measures from the Russian Federation - freezing or nationalization of EU=NATO assets on the territory of the Russian Federation, but it did not come.
    3. $300 billion increased the capitalization of banks, and the accruing interest of the EU=NATO is used to finance the enemy at the expense of the Russian Federation, and this is in addition to the Russian Federation supplying the enemy with energy, metals, agricultural products, timber and other goods during the war.
    4. No negative consequences followed after the theft of gold and currency reserves of Syria, Afghanistan, Iran, Venezuela and will not follow after the theft of gold and currency reserves of the Russian Federation, and in order not to look like an outright thief and not to scare off other suckers, they are trying to contrive and somehow legally justify the theft.
    5. The value of the dollar in world transactions is decreasing due to an increase in the value of the renminbi, which is largely facilitated by the so-called “dedollarization” and an increase in payments in national candy wrappers.
    The essence of the so-called policy “dedollarization” comes down to replacing one collar on the neck with another – the dollar one with the renminbi.
    6. Due to the law of uneven development, there cannot be an equal partnership under capitalism in principle; this is an axiom.
    7. The different social systems of the PRC and the EU = NATO and other state formations predetermine the historical development of the whole world.
    8. If the Russian Federation, as the chairman of the Brix this year, proposes an announced draft of financial calculations based on the CMEA experience, then this could put an end to the neocolonial dependence of the world on the dollar and NATO, but in the absence of the dictatorship of the proletariat and the affiliation of the Russian Federation in market capitalist relations, there is little left for this chances.
  22. +4
    24 February 2024 10: 44
    ...Order based on “rules” rather than laws, of course, exists. But it is by no means international, and this is the order of existence of banditry and organized crime. This crime is really governed by “rules”, or rather by “concepts”: the laws of the jungle, the rules of the strongest....

    Stop.
    That is, when they brought down the sovereign Soviet economy for the sake of market “concepts,” dreaming that since they are now “our own, bourgeois,” then immunity in the West is guaranteed? laughing fool
    The article is another switch from “we were deceived/thwarted” to another “strategic threat”.
    Are preparations for the elections in full swing? wink
  23. VLR
    +6
    24 February 2024 11: 11
    Confiscation of Russian assets will be a strategic victory for Moscow

    I can't even tell you the last time I read such a stupid phrase. Maybe then let’s finally “finish off” the West by “giving” it the rest of its gold and foreign exchange reserves? And we will declare that we have won, since for so many years we have been sending non-renewable natural resources abroad for nothing.
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    2. -4
      24 February 2024 15: 27
      Guys, am I the only one here who can read Russian??
      What kind of nonsense are you talking about in your comments?? And almost everything!

      What kind of passing off of assets stolen from Russia as victory are you talking about??
      Translation for those especially “gifted”:
      1.
      The freezing of Russian money is ALREADY a fait accompli. That's it: no money.
      2.
      BUT, if Western friends agree to transfer money from the status of frozen to the status of stolen (and there is a huge difference between the two) - then Russia will have a LEGITIMATE opportunity to RETURN its assets IMMEDIATELY, and not once, after decades, as was the case with Iran .
      In this case, it will be able to confidently confiscate Western assets, without looking back at the reaction of its non-Western partners, whose opinions are important to it and who will regard Russia’s actions as legitimate.

      You need to use your head, and not carry a blizzard or, at best, go into the wilds that have nothing to do with the specific issue raised.
      1. 0
        24 February 2024 18: 50
        When the leaders in the country don’t have steel Faberge hands, then nothing will happen. You need to turn on your head, and not bring a blizzard or, at best, go into the wilds that have nothing to do with the specific issue raised.
  24. +5
    24 February 2024 11: 29
    When my wallet decreases, and even against my will, I don’t feel strategically victorious.
  25. +6
    24 February 2024 11: 40
    Quote: Vladimir80
    The West will never allow its own loss, and its puppets in our top government will help them in every possible way.

    They are already trying their best. Example: AvtoVAZ can no longer be confiscated - it is ours, bought from Renault for 1 ruble. But: with Renault’s right to buy it back at any time for 1 ruble. I hope that the contract at least stipulates compensation from Renault for the funds that we will invest there during this time, otherwise we will also give it to them for 1 ruble. Others have simply sold their business in Russia. Yes, formally all money from the sale should remain in Type C accounts in Russia until the end of the conflict. But it has already been decided that with special permission they can be transferred from there abroad. Decisions, of course, are confidential.
    1. +2
      24 February 2024 11: 55
      PS Well, or not abroad (this would be too arrogant, although it is not impossible, the permission is “special” from the Ministry of Finance!), but at least it is allowed to withdraw them from there for purposes other than paying taxes and fees, etc. How to use this for export abroad, if it is not directly permitted, is a matter of technology; in Russia there are enough such specialists.
  26. +3
    24 February 2024 11: 52
    We go from victory to victory.
    1. +2
      24 February 2024 12: 41
      military correspondent, these are definitely continuous victories in everything and everywhere, the verbiage is off the charts
  27. +5
    24 February 2024 12: 41
    Quote from AdAstra
    When my wallet decreases, and even against my will, I don’t feel strategically victorious.


    Leave it alone! Higher your leg, wider your step! Sing a song! laughing

    1. 0
      24 February 2024 15: 41
      Thank you)), we hit the nail on the head, brilliant comment hi
  28. Uno
    0
    24 February 2024 12: 48
    Sanctions are only beneficial, this is an obvious fact))
  29. +2
    24 February 2024 14: 20
    If you think in this logic, then all are continuous victories. Money stolen - victory! Like the enemy showed his essence, etc., etc. Everyone saw and was horrified. If the money wasn't stolen, that's a victory! Because it wasn't stolen, actually.
    But I will note that, in principle, a situation in which the huge funds belonging to the Russian Federation cannot be used cannot be considered a victory. You go to the store, pick up some goods, then open your wallet - and it’s empty. It makes no difference to you personally whether it is empty because there is nothing there, or because “your funds are frozen.” Because the key here is that you can't use them the way you want.
    I don’t understand how derivatives from this can be twisted into “victory”.
    In general, I, damn it, don’t understand how, since 2014, it was impossible to phase out all this over 8 years. Did they have no brains at all? When some lapotnik comes to the bank to take out a loan, he is treated like a bug under a magnifying glass, analyzing the cheap risks. And here it’s 300 lard and no one seemed to scratch it, while our agitprop rang out loud.
    When, as a result, your wallet is empty and you can’t buy anything with this emptiness, this is never a victory. This is called self-harm.
  30. -3
    24 February 2024 14: 53
    Guys, am I the only one here who can read Russian??
    What kind of nonsense are you talking about in your comments??
    1. 0
      2 March 2024 13: 31
      The correct spelling is "nonsense". wink
  31. -3
    24 February 2024 15: 12
    Guys, am I the only one here who can read Russian??
    What kind of nonsense are you talking about in your comments??
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  37. +2
    24 February 2024 18: 24
    Much greater damage to the West will be caused not by the confiscation of their assets in Russia, but by the nationalization of entire sectors of the economy:
    electric power industry, oil and gas production and processing, metallurgy.....
  38. +4
    24 February 2024 18: 26
    What about the size of Russia's external public debt to the West? If I'm not mistaken, it exceeds 400 billion dollars.
  39. DO
    -1
    24 February 2024 18: 30
    The second strategic effect of the theft of the sovereign reserves of the Central Bank of Russia will be the direct legitimation of Russia in its legalization of the nationalization/confiscation of Western assets present on the Russian market as financial compensation for losses.
    What are these “Western assets present on the Russian market”? Today these are not the services of Western banks at all - they were the first to flee Russia. These are production facilities and retail chains that, despite sanctions, continue to operate in Russia. And what if you take away their property and give it to the state, will all these factories and retail chains at least continue to operate effectively? No matter how it is. We can confidently predict that some of them will cease to be viable and will be sold under the hammer for mere pennies for scrap metal and rented warehouses/business centers.
    It seems that in today's specific conditions, indiscriminate "nationalization/confiscation of Western assets" on average will only bring harm to the Russian economy. The only exception here can be enterprises whose products are used in the Russian military-industrial complex. And even then, you first need to understand without prejudice what exactly the nationalization of an asset will bring for the military-industrial complex in each specific case.

    Another thing is interesting. Why was not one of the officials responsible for storing more than $300 billion of Russian gold and foreign currency reserves in Western banks just before the start of the SVO, with a confident forecast of their freezing, at least dismissed? Maybe this was the plan, to tarnish the financial reputation of the West? However, it is a rather expensive plan, especially if Ukraine uses this money to buy Western weapons.
    1. +1
      26 February 2024 13: 32
      Quote: DO
      It seems that in today's specific conditions, indiscriminate "nationalization/confiscation of Western assets" on average will only bring harm to the Russian economy. The only exception here can be enterprises whose products are used in the Russian military-industrial complex. And even then, you first need to understand without prejudice what exactly the nationalization of an asset will bring for the military-industrial complex in each specific case.

      That's it. But our people are fooled by official propaganda. For example, my friend says: “so what if our money was frozen? But we took away IKEA and Leroy Merlin from them.” The friend doesn’t understand that we took away (if that’s true) not the business of these companies, but just empty box buildings their stores. Well, plus warehouse and cash register equipment. But the money that our authorities squandered could have been used for what is needed, and not for what was thrown to us like a bone, as a consolation. And the liquidity of such Western assets is in question.
      1. DO
        +1
        26 February 2024 15: 40
        Quote: MBRBS
        my friend says: “so what if they froze our money? But we took IKEA and Leroy Merlin from them.”

        Your friend is mistaken, IKEA and Leroy left Russia of their own free will, the Russian authorities did not take anything away from them.
        In the context of this article, we can talk, for example, about the French hypermarket chain Auchan, which continues to operate in Russia. Will someone explain what benefit the Russians would have after the hypothetical nationalization of Auchan? Would there be more hypermarkets? Would the service improve? Would prices go down?
  40. -1
    24 February 2024 18: 39
    Everything in this situation is as simple as two and two....
    The Central Bank withdrew billions from Russia in order to gradually distribute them among the court oligarchs, as has happened more than once and funds from the stabilization fund flowed to the owners of private banks, supposedly to stabilize the financial system....
    But none of the country's leaders ever asked the owners of these private banks:
    "WHEN WILL YOU START RETURNING THE FUNDS RECEIVED FROM THE STATE?"

    Western swindlers decided to punish our swindlers for SVO and cleverly wrested from our oligarchs the exported but not yet divided “common fund”...
    The oligarchs and the Russian government are, of course, trying to put on a good face on a bad game, but this is just an empty farce...
    In any case, this money has already left Russia and it would never come back....
  41. +1
    24 February 2024 18: 46
    Actually, what is stored in the West (shares, receipts and other crap) is not cash or gold, these are assets. Our assets and against our assets, we can and have the right to print as much money as they have detained. And that is all
    1. +3
      24 February 2024 20: 10
      Now, if they could insist on selling oil and gas only for rubles, then they themselves could buy foreign goods for this ruble, and the exchange rate would remain 50, if not better. But then “the concept changed”, and the right to print as much as you want will now only lead to hyperinflation, and the provision of frozen assets is not much less absurd than the Banderaites issuing a loan secured by the same assets of the Russian Federation.
    2. 0
      24 February 2024 23: 57
      Exactly. And with this money you can then cover the walls. Or use the paper for its intended purpose. :). So we will win!
  42. +7
    24 February 2024 22: 42
    EVERYTHING works for us, where we are not dependent on the West. Conclusion: We need a strong economy that does not depend on Western whims. The country lost not 300 billion, but at least 2 times more, first they gave away oil, gas, etc., then they gave back the money received for this gas. And the time lost to build factories for these 300 billion will definitely not be returned to us, and this is much more money.
  43. +6
    24 February 2024 23: 36
    How did it turn out that these assets ended up in the West?
    After all, since 2014 it has been clear that the West is not our friend at all....
    1. -1
      25 February 2024 00: 51
      It's true. They could have withdrawn at least some of them, without attracting much attention, from the moment when the decision was made to fight openly...
      We pooped.
      But now we need to taxi out.
      Unlike many "commentators", I give a much higher chance that this will happen, because... The scenario in Russian history is classic: first we get hit in the head and only then do we begin to learn and act accordingly - and then the enemy becomes sick of it...
      On the other hand, the author does not say that confiscation will happen, but that you only need to hope for it in order to legally untie your hands. The question is whether the West's blindness and hysteria will lead to concrete confiscation or not.
      1. 0
        25 February 2024 00: 57
        Direct confiscation is now essentially blocked by the IMF. At the Zhi-7 meeting, they did not dare to use these epithets. But confiscation is a legal act. But in reality, 306 billion. can and will remain in accounts and the income from them will supposedly be sent to restore Ukraine. It will take a long time to “restore”, of course. Yes, this is not a confiscation legally, but practically it will have to be forgotten, unless the world hits the Great Axis. hi
  44. 0
    24 February 2024 23: 54
    Listen! Or maybe we should give everything else to these pretzels, Gazprom, Rosneft, etc., so that they would collapse faster!? Why waste time on trifles?
  45. +2
    25 February 2024 00: 03
    I'll be brief: bo-bo head, money bye-bye, ka-ka in the mouth
  46. -1
    25 February 2024 15: 29
    It’s funny to watch how hereditary sharks walk in circles around Russian money, while trying to give the appearance of legality:
    “He sees a lamb and strives for the prey;
    But at least give the case a legitimate look and feel"
    ...
  47. +1
    26 February 2024 09: 58
    Reading the author, you might think that our goal is not to live better, but to make others live worse.

    With this approach, you can always feel like a winner, since there will always be someone for whom things have begun to go worse - you should take credit for this and you can celebrate the victory.
    1. -2
      26 February 2024 12: 53
      We’ve already tried to lie down to the west, and now we’re living better? Not at all.
      1. 0
        26 February 2024 15: 25
        Quote: Yuri Vasiliev
        We’ve already tried to lie down to the west, and now we’re living better? Not at all.


        We didn’t lie to anyone, someone deceived you. It’s just that those in power were those whose business was oriented to the West, now other businessmen are in power, on the contrary, they do not need competition with the West, since they are losing it, so they need isolation.

        By the way, for the majority of the population the previous option was better, since integration with the West provides more opportunities and provides greater material benefits than isolation.
        1. -1
          26 February 2024 19: 25
          Under Yeltsin, they completely fell under the West, politically, destroyed industry, many industries, renounced their interests wherever possible, Crushers and agents of the West openly ruled our government, Chubais, Koch, Kozyrev will not let you lie. People lived in poverty, salaries were 100-200 dollars a month. They flooded the markets with cheap consumer goods, Bush's legs, remember.
        2. 0
          26 February 2024 19: 27
          Ask anyone now if he wants to return to Yeltsinism, what is the majority there. For most it was a bad dream
        3. -1
          26 February 2024 19: 28
          And another question: where did you see isolation?
          1. -1
            27 February 2024 15: 24
            1. Industry was destroyed, but not because it “fell under the west.”
            2. The West lost the Cold War, this is true, but that time has already passed.
            3. I lived then and live now, I can compare, there were times of devastation. What does it have to do with “2lying to the west”? They broke everything themselves.
            4. I saw isolation everywhere, I just had to take my eyes off the TV.
            1. 0
              27 February 2024 23: 11
              They themselves broke everything according to the recommendations of the IMF, organizing privatization, the factories were privatized, then the machines were taken out for scrap metal, and shopping centers were built on the site of the factory. This is how the West destroyed its competitors with the hands of our nouveau riche. Remember what Chubais said. This is called lying under the west. Entire industries, such as machine tool manufacturing and radio electronics, completely disappeared.
            2. +1
              27 February 2024 23: 13
              There is no isolation; Russia trades with the whole world, even with hostile countries. What is the insulation?
  48. 0
    26 February 2024 13: 09
    The author of the article is trying to convince us that wasting 300 lard is not only harmful, but also useful? And just recently Siluanov spoke equally optimistically: they say, we have no less frozen. But he didn’t say in what form it was frozen or how liquid it was.
    This means that people are preparing to transfer money to Ukraine. Traitors.
  49. 2al
    0
    26 February 2024 13: 52
    At one time (1979), the United States froze Iran's assets according to the assurance of the head of the Central Bank of Iran "The head of the Central Bank of Iran, Mohammad Reza Farzin, said on Monday that the volume of Iranian assets frozen abroad is approximately more than 100 billion US dollars." these assets were frozen not only in the USA but all over the world, incl. weight. This fact did not bother anyone in the Russian Federation, and even moreover, the Russian Federation participated in these sanctions!
    "after the signing of the Gore-Chernomyrdin memorandum, Russia froze the supply of military equipment to Iran. In particular, Iran did not receive 570 T-72S tanks, more than a thousand infantry fighting vehicles, air defense systems; also spare parts for previously supplied weapons (the Iranian army was armed with 24 MiG-29 fighters , 12 Su-24MK bombers, three Varshavyanka diesel submarines, 422 T-72S tanks, 413 BMP-2, S-200 air defense systems, etc.).
    "
    Although this is, of course, a big stop on the part of the United States, and it is obvious even to the UN.
    “The International Court of Justice declared the US freeze of part of Iran’s assets illegal and, in connection with this, ordered the republic to pay compensation.
    “The United States is obliged to pay Iran compensation for the consequences and violations of international obligations,” the court’s decision said (quoted from RIA Novosti).
    According to the vice-president of the court, Kirill Gevorgyan, this decision was made in connection with the violation of a number of international obligations by the United States, including “under Article 3, paragraph 1 of the Treaty of Friendship, Economic Relations and Consular Rights (between the United States and Iran) of 1955 ." "
  50. 0
    26 February 2024 15: 16
    And, it turns out, this is such a cunning plan - to overwhelm the enemy with money, gas, oil, metals, uranium at a cheap price... And we, stupid ones, thought that we had wasted 300 billion, to put it mildly, but here a resounding victory was won, one might say victory... laughing
  51. +2
    1 March 2024 16: 56
    The title of the article is provocative, as are some of the elements... Apparently for some purpose...