The collapse of the dollar, gold and payments in national currencies. Myths and reality

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The collapse of the dollar, gold and payments in national currencies. Myths and reality

Against the backdrop of the start of the SVO and sanctions policy, the topic of de-dollarization has sharply intensified. Then she calmed down somewhat. But here again are several publications at once, including on VO, on this topic.

While the authors of publications have sound ideas, I would like to point out a number of common myths, which quite often captivate both writers and readers.



So…

Gold


The first and perhaps most popular myth is the use of metallic gold or its equivalent (the gold standard) in international payments as a substitute for the dollar.

It is necessary to immediately disappoint all fans of this genre, but with the exception of certain narrow niche tasks, you can immediately forget about calculations with gold.

There are several reasons for this.

Let's start with why the world generally moved away from payments in gold.

Monetary gold, unlike all modern currencies, which are de facto IOUs, has its own specific commodity value. That is, it is in demand not only as a means of payment, but also as a commodity that has its own use and its own value.

All modern world currencies, unlike gold, have only a nominal value. This is the appeal of gold. It is weakly subject to devaluation, although the world story knows such examples.

But this is also the problem of gold as a means of payment: gold comes into competition with itself.

After all, gold is not only a symbol of wealth, but also an industrial raw material (including jewelry). And the demand for gold as a raw material and gold as a monetary unit may not coincide, which, in fact, constantly happened in the era of monetary gold. And as a result, the price of gold as a raw material and its price as money are different. This is inconvenient to say the least.

Just imagine a scene - “We are selling a shipment of gold. The price per ounce is two ounces.”
A ruble or other paper backed by gold does not solve this problem. It is, in fact, a warrant, that is, a bearer warehouse certificate, according to which you are obliged to give a certain amount of gold, which you can transfer to any person as payment, if that person is ready to accept it as payment. The problem of the duality of gold does not disappear from this. This is precisely one of the reasons that caused the abandonment of the gold standard at one time.

The second reason is political.

Why bother with dedollarization?

The correct answer is to increase the competitiveness of the domestic economy. The subtask of dedollarization is to reduce the impact on financial relations of the main competitor, the United States.

But in order to pay with gold or its equivalents, it is necessary to determine its world value. Let's remember where, in fact, the world price of gold is determined. Hint: these are wonderful cities: New York and London. What is called - they have arrived.

The third reason is purely technical.

The fact is that most international settlements are not payments between state X and state Y. These are settlements between the companies Romashka LLC in State X and Romashka Ltd. from the state of Igrek. Having sold a carload of bananas for gold or the equivalent, they then at least need to pay wages to employees. That is, a relatively simple and accessible mechanism for converting into national currency with minimal commissions for participants should be built.

Such a mechanism could ideally be built as a universal-world or at least local-regional one with the involvement of several (the more, the better) participating states. Otherwise, there will be many bottlenecks and high transaction costs.

However, a problem arises here: we, as a country under sanctions, for example, are interested in creating such a mechanism. But how interested are other participants in the process? Do they need to build such a mechanism if there is already an accessible and functioning one based on the dollar? The sheriff doesn't care about the Indians' problems.

And finally, the last and most important argument.

Let's assume that all the above problems are solved. But even then the gold standard will reach a dead end.

The fact is that over the last hundred years the world has changed somewhat. Globalization and the international division of labor have led to a significant increase in the volume of international payments. For example, the share of imports in the Russian Empire in 1913 was estimated to be about 5% of GDP, while in modern Russia it is from 18 to 21%.

In addition, let us remember that the Global South during the era of the gold standard was overwhelmingly a colonial system, that is, it was not a participant in international payments at all.

And here another interesting question arises: will the physical volume of available gold be enough to ensure international payments?

Currently, according to the Bank for International Settlements (BIS), the daily volume of international foreign exchange transactions in the world is $7,5 trillion. I repeat – this is the volume of transactions in one day. But the volume of gold turnover in the world for the entire 2023 amounted to 4 tons, which is approximately $899 billion. For the whole year. This is true for comparison.

OK. Peace be peace, but what about us?

In the year 1913, beloved by statisticians, the gold reserves of the Russian Empire amounted to 1 tons. For 695, there will be 2023 tons, that is, 2% more. This is despite the fact that the share of imports increased from 332% to almost 37,6%.

In money terms, the current gold reserve at the beginning of 2023 was $136 billion, or approximately 12 billion rubles. The total money supply (the so-called M586,8 monetary aggregate) as of January 2 is 2023 billion rubles. That is, the gold reserve covers 82% of the money supply.

International settlements take up a slightly smaller size. About $2023 billion of goods were imported into Russia in 213. That is, at one time we can pay in gold or its equivalent for only half of the annual import. Despite the fact that the return of gold from Russian exports is unlikely.

Of course, not all imports require settlement in gold warrants - in some cases netting is possible, in others something else is possible. But not the entire gold reserve can be used as a means of payment, since part of it is a safety net and another part is collateral for certain government debt obligations.

You can also estimate the turnover of the gold equivalent or delve into further consideration of all the nuances of this topic, but it will not change the fundamental picture. So the situation, I hope, is clear: the gold standard is already a thing of the past. Moreover, primarily due to the lack of physical volume of gold to support all commodity and financial transactions.

Maybe it will be revived sometime in the future (most likely in the event of a large-scale global catastrophe - God forbid), but not now.

National currencies


With settlements in national currencies, the prospects are much higher, primarily because the number of interested parties is greater than one.

But there are also several but.

Moreover, these but – these are not the machinations of the world hegemon or the European bureaucracy. These are objective economic factors, of which there are actually two.

The first is the absolute size of the national economy.

The second is the volume of foreign trade transactions between the two countries participating in the settlements.

Let's look at both.

However, first let’s rule out one more myth. These are payments in yuan. Let us exclude it for one reason - if the matter does not specifically concern Russian-Chinese relations, then settlements in yuan are not settlements in national currencies. This is replacing one dependency with another.

Having initiated mutual settlements in national currencies, the first problem we will encounter is the assessment of exchange rates. There are two evaluation mechanisms. The first is the stock exchange. But to determine it, there must be a sufficient volume of transactions between quoted currencies, i.e. it is suitable for countries with intensive and fairly large mutual trade turnover. Otherwise, the rate will be determined through the so-called cross rates, that is, through a certain currency that has wide circulation around the world. The clue is the dollar.

In other words, for example, in trade with China the mutual exchange rate can be set relatively independent of the dollar, but in interaction with African countries this is practically not the case.

The second issue that will arise in the course of building bilateral relations is the liquidity of the national currency received as payments.

Let us recall that almost all modern currencies of the world do not have their own commodity value. Only nominal. Essentially, these are depersonalized promissory notes. This means that any of the currencies can be settled for payments exactly as much as established public opinion recognizes a particular currency as legal tender.

Thus, the US dollar is recognized as such almost anywhere in the world. And here is also a dollar, but this time Zimbabwean - interesting only as souvenirs.

The liquidity of a currency is determined in the same way as a debt obligation, by the solidity and solvency of the person who issued it. That is, the absolute size of the economy and its stability.

The three main world currencies - the dollar, euro and yuan - are such because behind them are three economic giants, providing 60% of world GDP. All others are niche or local currencies.

How does this affect mutual settlements in national currencies?

If mutual commodity and financial flows between two countries are approximately comparable, then the transition to settlements in national currencies is generally not very problematic, given other favorable conditions.

However, if there is a noticeable imbalance in favor of one of the parties, then problems arise here.

For example, Russia supplies a certain country X with goods worth conventional 100 units, the return flow of goods is 50 conventional units. When making payments in dollars, this is not a problem; they can be used for any transactions with third countries. But when making payments in national currencies, Russia forms a balance in the currency of country X, which has nowhere to use. Actually, for this reason there was a well-known story with Indian rupees.

Thus, payments in national currencies are limited to the smallest of the counter flows of goods. Moreover, in the extreme case of this situation - when the counter flow is zero, there will be a corresponding result of mutual settlements.

The problem can be partially solved by creating an international clearing infrastructure. That is, if there is a certain third party that has trade relations with both Russia and country X, then perhaps it will be ready to accept the national currency of country X as payment. Moreover, provided that country Y has an imbalance of trade relations in favor of X, otherwise it will not be interested.

As we can see, clearing solves the problem only partially and still leaves many bottlenecks. That is why attempts to discuss ideas for creating similar institutions at the BRICS level at the last summit did not even lead to the adoption of a clear decision on the possibility of developing such a mechanism.

What do we have as a result of all that has been said?

We have a very interesting picture presented on the graph (borrowed from the tadviser.ru resource).


As can be seen in the graph, despite all attempts to reduce the dollar’s ​​share in global payments, it confidently holds its position. And in 2023 it even reached its maximum in the last 10 years. And he will hold his position until a simple and accessible alternative arises.

Perhaps the yuan will become such an alternative if China wants it.

Perhaps an international BRICS quasi-currency will be created for foreign economic settlements. There is already such experience in world practice, for example, the European ECU or the Emvef SDR.

But definitely not a ruble, even if it is gold. The scale simply won't allow it. So, even if Russia suddenly manages to increase its GDP per capita to the US level in the short term, its economy will still be half the size.

It is also necessary to note the popular thesis about the impending collapse of the American financial system, due to the insecurity of dollar emissions.

Firstly, the dollar is secured by its status as a world currency.

Secondly, yes, collapse is possible. But the moment this happens, we will all find ourselves in a slightly different reality, and it is not a fact that we will like it.

Therefore, at the moment there are no world rulers who are really interested in the collapse of the dollar. Quite the contrary, everyone will strive to deflate the bubble as slowly as possible.

Is everything so sad?

Not at all.

The Russian economy, thank God, is not the worst in the world. Although its potential, unfortunately, is far from being fully used.

The Russian ruble has a chance to become a regional currency or a significant component of the world quasi-currency, but this chance will depend on the level of development of domestic production and the level of well-being of the people.

And for this it is necessary to train full-fledged, competent economists (with all the abundance of qualifications we now have almost none of those), to build an economic and industrial policy, a personnel training system, etc. However, this, as they say, is another story.
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  1. -2
    22 February 2024 04: 51
    Without a return to a planned economy, Russia will remain “not the last economy in the world.”
    But this is not a quibble with the article, I liked the article!
    1. 0
      22 February 2024 08: 24
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      Without a return to a planned economy, Russia will remain “not the last economy in the world.”

      And How planned will the economy, for example, force India to accept rupees back? Or reduce OPEC oil supplies?
      1. 0
        22 February 2024 08: 27
        Quote: your1970
        And how will a planned economy, for example, force India to accept rupees back? Or reduce OPEC oil supplies?

        Somehow I can’t think of your comment as sane.
        1. +3
          22 February 2024 08: 30
          Quote: Vladimir_2U
          Quote: your1970
          And how will a planned economy, for example, force India to accept rupees back? Or reduce OPEC oil supplies?

          Somehow I can’t think of your comment as sane.

          And I, too, consider your push for a planned economy as a panacea everywhere - which failed miserably in the USSR. Burying the USSR...
          1. +2
            22 February 2024 09: 28
            It was not the planned economy that destroyed the USSR. It would be very good to revive the planned economy and its state regulation in relation to the production of goods of group “A” (production of means of production). And with regard to goods of group “B” (production of consumer goods), one can and should use a market economy.
            1. -2
              22 February 2024 09: 36
              Quote: Ady66
              It would be very good to revive the planned economy and its state regulation in relation to the production of goods of group “A” (production of means of production). And with regard to goods of group “B” (production of consumer goods), one can and should use a market economy.

              This is impossible - because market businessmen from group B will immediately drag the loot to businessmen from group A - to obtain free funds and resources. And a dead end....
              Artel/NEP/China should not be cited as an example - everything is too crooked there....
              1. +3
                22 February 2024 10: 29
                And what does funding have to do with it? I didn’t mean a complete copying of a planned economy, I meant state regulation in relation to group A.
                1. -1
                  22 February 2024 17: 11
                  Quote: Ady66
                  And what does funding have to do with it? I didn’t mean a complete copying of a planned economy, I meant state regulation in relation to group A.

                  It’s trivial - you have a group A nuclear power plant.
                  And nearby there is a group B cooperative that makes water taps from brass. pure group B.
                  The crane owner comes to you with a dough cutlet and says, “We need free electricity for the stove and a little free brass".
                  And then 50/50...
      2. +2
        22 February 2024 19: 08
        It is a pity that the author did not voice the natural exchange.
  2. +8
    22 February 2024 06: 36
    The Russian economy, thank God, is not the worst in the world.
    Fifth in the world, first in Europe, and the exchange rate today is $ 92,44, € 99,9, India has no desire to sell its goods for rupees, and settlements with Belarus are probably not in Belarusian and Russian rubles, but in dollars and the euro. Yes, and they hushed up the topic of the “gas” ruble, but I remember how much enthusiasm there was about this..
    1. -2
      22 February 2024 07: 57
      Quote: parusnik
      The Russian economy, thank God, is not the worst in the world.
      Fifth in the world, first in Europe, and the exchange rate today is $ 92,44, € 99,9, India has no desire to sell its goods for rupees, and settlements with Belarus are probably not in Belarusian and Russian rubles, but in dollars and the euro. Yes, and they hushed up the topic of the “gas” ruble, but I remember how much enthusiasm there was about this..

      5 in the world and first in Europe purely in PPP terms... and GDP in PPP terms is more of an academic (scientific) value than a real one. Conventionally, PPP shows how many times in country X you can ride the metro with local prices for the entire size of the economy (in fact, the calculation is more complicated, but for understanding it will do)... the problem is that, conditionally, a Russian can ride the metro for his salary 500 times, but a German has only 400 for his salary, but in Germany the cost of travel is higher, and none of them needs more than 100 trips. As a result, both will travel on the subway 100 times, but the German will be able to buy more imported bananas from Ecuador with the remaining money, as he will have more money left on his hands...
      1. +2
        22 February 2024 08: 02
        So the government is shamelessly lying? Isn't that really true? But the men don’t even know... I must say.
        1. +1
          22 February 2024 09: 43
          Quote: parusnik
          So the government is shamelessly lying? Isn't that really true? But the men don’t even know... I must say.

          He doesn’t lie, he just calculates the statistics as it suits them... if we take the absolute values ​​of GDP, then Germany has surpassed Japan and is now the 3rd economy in the world...
          1. +3
            22 February 2024 09: 52
            You know, I haven’t added emoticons to my comments for a long time. But apparently I’ll have to put hi
          2. +5
            22 February 2024 11: 20
            Quote: parma
            He doesn’t lie, he just calculates statistics as it suits them...

            This is the task of Reshetnikov from the Ministry of Economic Development. If they do not show the growth of the Russian economy, they will be kicked out and replaced with Oreshkin and more savvy liars. lol
            I do not agree with some of the author's conclusions. And that's why :
            1. To achieve any goal (in our case, an attempt to exclude the Russian Federation from international trade) political will, tactics and strategy are needed.
            2. In order for trading partners to accept your unit of account, it must be more attractive than the current one. And in the future, even replace it if the Fed continues the financial war.
            3. The movement of capital in the world is impossible without a payment system and banks.
            This means that in China, India, Brazil... banks and payment systems connecting them that are not controlled by the Fed and the IMF should appear. In this case, say China, will be able to work with both the US Federal Reserve System and the Russian Federal Reserve System.
            4. I agree that it is difficult to create the Federal Reserve System of the Russian Federation; the BRICS Federal Reserve System has more opportunities
            5. These issues need to be discussed with trading partners; a solution will not come immediately. hi
            1. +1
              24 February 2024 00: 40
              I noticed this fact: the Russian Federation has not yet been excluded from the WTO.
          3. +2
            23 February 2024 12: 13
            He doesn’t lie, he just calculates statistics as it suits them...

            “There are lies, there are absolute lies, and then there are statistics” (C)
          4. +1
            26 February 2024 20: 07
            If we take absolute values ​​of GDP, then Germany has surpassed Japan and is now the 3rd economy in the world...

            Why, they are shouting at us from the zombie box that the German economy will soon completely collapse without cheap Russian gas...
      2. -2
        22 February 2024 11: 52
        Not every city has a metro, so I think a more accurate example of comparing GDP by PPP is the Big Mac index, since it is calculated from the components of the food that is included in it.
        2019 year
        The most expensive Big Mac in Switzerland is $6,54. The cost of a Big Mac in the US is $5,74 (in second place), in the Eurozone it is $4,57. Ukraine has surpassed the Russian Federation in terms of the cost of a Big Mac - 2,22 and 2,04, respectively.
    2. +1
      22 February 2024 10: 54
      “Yes, they hushed up the topic of the gas ruble, but I remember how much enthusiasm there was about this..”
      How can I not remember, the excitement was through the roof, with “wow, how we have them now!” laughing
  3. 0
    22 February 2024 06: 49
    I have never come across the statement before that gold has two prices... Then, in general, any product has “two prices: as a commodity and as a medium of exchange.” .
    Specific examples from practice should be given here.
    1. +4
      22 February 2024 07: 24
      Specific examples from practice should be given here.

      Gold is a commodity, gold is a means of payment
      .
      Then, in general, any product has “two prices: as a commodity and as a medium of exchange.” .

      You're right. Remember the times of barter.
      Any thing served as a commodity and served as a means of payment.
    2. 0
      22 February 2024 07: 46
      Quote: ivan2022
      I have never come across the statement before that gold has two prices... Then, in general, any product has “two prices: as a commodity and as a medium of exchange.” .
      Specific examples from practice should be given here.

      Here's the most banal example - jewelry... the cost of a finished product weighing 1 gram will be, for example, 1,5 grams of raw gold, and the cost of 1 gram of gold scrap (for example, production waste, and yes, I know that it is used in the same production, let's omit this moment) 0,5 grams of pure gold... and what about different purity?... it’s clear that these are all simplifications, etc., the mechanism itself and this incident are important...
      1. 0
        22 February 2024 07: 52
        A product made of gold, gold scrap, gold sand will obviously have different values...
        But the author writes about something else. He writes that the price is different depending on what the same gold is required for! I don't understand how this can be?
        1. 0
          22 February 2024 08: 53
          Quote: ivan2022
          A product made of gold, gold scrap, gold sand will obviously have different values...
          But the author writes about something else. He writes that the price is different depending on what the same gold is required for! I don't understand how this can be?

          The author says that gold will be both a commodity and a means of payment... this gives rise to a strange incident - there will actually be barter of the same product in unequal proportions...
          1. +2
            22 February 2024 09: 04
            But then what does the author see as the lack of gold? Any product can be used both as a means of payment in barter and as a consumer value.
            1. -1
              22 February 2024 10: 06
              Quote: ivan2022
              But then what does the author see as the lack of gold? Any product can be used both as a means of payment in barter and as a consumer value.

              There are a lot of problems with this, and the author writes about this:
              1) there is less gold available than the volume of the economy, which will require either squeezing and cutting your own economy or the currency will not be backed by this very gold
              2) since gold is a commodity on the world market, nothing will come of it without the majority of countries agreeing with such a decision. We will require payment in gold, and buyers/sellers will simply convert this into the currency they need and consider how profitable the offer is. Accordingly, we remain tied to the dollar, simply through the gold rate
              3) gold in its physical form is an extremely inconvenient type of currency, will you go for an apartment with a couple of bars?...
              1. +3
                22 February 2024 11: 57
                Quote: parma
                1) there is less gold available than the volume of the economy, which will require either squeezing and cutting your own economy or the currency will not be backed by this very gold

                This only means that gold is actually very undervalued today.
                And the dollar is exorbitantly overvalued.
            2. 0
              23 February 2024 22: 37
              Quote: ivan2022
              But then what does the author see as the lack of gold?

              imagine, you are the king of an island state and you find large reserves of gold.... you decide to issue currencies against this gold, you create a central bank... will anyone be interested in your currency?? - only gold buyers!! smile
              All participants in the discussion forgot that Money is the equivalent of Value and Value is Labor embodied in a product. Treating money as a commodity leads to the hegemony of the dollar and allows it to collapse the economies of countries, because in fact it is not the money that depreciates, but the labor contained in it, and the purchasing power of the money flows to newly printed ones. That is, financial capital robs industrial capital. Today only an offer of an absolute standard can be demanded. And EnergoRuble could become such a standard.
        2. +1
          22 February 2024 13: 54
          Plus to this the argument that:
          the gold standard is a thing of the past. Moreover, primarily due to the lack of physical volume of gold

          can be countered, because the lack of physical volume is easily corrected by increasing its price. Why can't we measure in ounces rather than in grams?
          Yes, then the price of gold as a material will be much higher than the monetary denomination of the same gram, but compared to colored paper, this difference will still not be so striking. And minting an extra trillion grams will not be so easy or tempting.
          1. 0
            23 February 2024 22: 40
            Quote from cpls22
            Why can't we measure in ounces rather than in grams?

            why not in kilowatts?
            1. +2
              23 February 2024 22: 45
              Quote: aybolyt678
              Quote from cpls22
              Why can't we measure in ounces rather than in grams?

              why not in kilowatts?

              Yes, at least in kiloparsecs. The point is that physical gold does not leave its vaults anyway. Therefore, to use it as a means of payment, it can be divided into nanograms. And pay with them.
              1. 0
                23 February 2024 22: 50
                Quote from cpls22
                The point is that physical gold does not leave its vaults anyway.

                The point is that Money is a unit of VALUE and VALUE is the LABOR embodied in a GOODS. Only based on this theoretical premise can all the nuances be correctly understood
            2. +2
              24 February 2024 07: 38
              Quote: aybolyt678
              why not in kilowatts?

              And who will be interested in your kilowatts? Will you build power lines to Africa, America (mainland), India? hi
              1. 0
                24 February 2024 08: 29
                Quote: fif21
                And who will be interested in your kilowatts? Will you build power lines to Africa, America (mainland), India?

                you think very briefly. When money is strictly tied to the amount of electricity, a certain standard arises. At which prices for goods produced in Russia are stabilized. Therefore, the dollar, gold, yuan, etc.. play with each other, and a loaf of bread is always a kilowatt or so. In addition, the energy ruble in Russia is backed by infrastructure and technology, and note that the price of electricity across the country is not very different.... Any money collector (from a bank to a pensioner smile ) It will be nice to have an energy ruble in your collection because you can always buy a fixed amount of goods with it and save it. All other currencies will play, but in the long run, ER will always win.
                this does not mean that you need to trade electricity. Any modern product contains 90 percent electricity or even more, so money turns into a measure of the energy spent on production - and this is the standard!
                1. +1
                  24 February 2024 09: 09
                  Quote: aybolyt678
                  Any modern product contains 90 percent electricity or even more, so money turns into a measure of the energy spent on production - and this is the standard!


                  It remains to agree with partners in international trade on the adoption of this standard. I agree that the BRICS forum should be worked out and several options proposed. A monetary unit of account linked to gold, platinum, and other resources - gas, oil, energy, grain... (raw materials), based on trust (like the dollar). This needs to be worked out and discussed with the country's bankers. The essence is the same - to introduce into the world trading system a unit not tied to the dollar, and to ensure their parallel existence. Prohibit a trade unit that is secured by something and sold for unsecured candy wrappers. hi
                  1. 0
                    24 February 2024 09: 28
                    Thanks for the detailed answer smile I'm clarifying
                    Quote: fif21
                    This needs to be worked out and discussed with the country's bankers.

                    I think that bankers will have to be forced to do this, for starters, their own laughing
                    1. +2
                      24 February 2024 14: 07
                      Quote: aybolyt678
                      I think that bankers will have to be forced to do this, for starters, their own

                      wassat It’s easier with yours - the cash gap, and goodbye to the license. But the same China, India......will have to be convinced, interested, otherwise there is no other way. hi
      2. +1
        22 February 2024 11: 33
        Quote: parma
        Here's the most banal example - jewelry

        Monetary gold 999 samples and jewelry are completely different gold, for completely different purposes. Refineries are engaged in converting any gold into monetary value. hi
        1. -2
          22 February 2024 12: 38
          And, what’s also funny, this process of “transformation” is quite expensive, no matter who you ask hi etc... winked
  4. -1
    22 February 2024 07: 22
    The solution to the problem proposed in the last paragraph is not primarily of interest to the country's leadership. But by and large, it is dangerous for them; the Kremlin authorities do not need smart people.
    1. +2
      22 February 2024 12: 15
      Quote: Dimy4
      But by and large, it is dangerous for them; the Kremlin authorities do not need smart people.

      An anecdote from the times of the USSR. Competition, interview for the position of base director. Comrade, answer, what is two times two? Pause, answer is three! You are not suitable for us. Comrade, answer, what is two times two? Pause, the answer is four! Don't come near!
      Comrade, answer, how much is two times two? Pause, answer - As much as you need, so much will be! Go to the HR department, you are accepted. hi
  5. +8
    22 February 2024 08: 51
    the gold standard is a thing of the past

    This is the only possible future.. Describing trading for gold, the author makes several strange mistakes at once. Like - there is too little gold to ensure turnover. AND? There is not enough of it - at the current price. If we say there are a million tons of goods, and a ton of gold, then of course if it costs a ton of goods, then there won’t be enough of it. But why should it cost so much? After all, if its price is equivalent to the quantity of goods, then all contradictions will be removed, right? And it costs so cheap for one reason - it is artificially kept at this level by hustlers from London. Only so that it cannot in any way compete with the dollar as a means of payment and accumulation.

    Gold is also a commodity. And what? It has been like this for at least 5 thousand of the past years, and all these centuries - they traded on it and made jewelry from it. Did this bother anyone? No? Why should it stop now? The gold standard flourished right up to WWII, in quite industrial times, and disappeared only because as a result of the war, all European gold migrated to the United States, and it was necessary to trade somehow. America, on the other hand, has set a course for the dollar standard, because gold, unlike dollars, cannot be made out of thin air. And I really wanted to.

    So the objections are strange to say the least. But the current situation is an artificial structure, because everything has been done to make it simply impossible to trade with gold. Besides, no one bothers to introduce a basket of metals, similar to a basket of currencies, right?
    1. 0
      22 February 2024 09: 48
      If I’m not mistaken, the author expressed a strange thought: “the cost of gold varies depending on the purpose for which it is bought.”...
      1. 0
        22 February 2024 13: 25
        Quote: ivan2022
        If I'm not mistaken, the author said strange thought: “the value of gold varies depending on the purpose for which it is bought.”...

        Here the author is absolutely right. There is no generally accepted unified value system, gold will not be an “absolute”.
        A simple example. You have a pure gold reserve and you are rich, but a competing value system (dollar) due to powerful economy (path and speculative moment) “dropped” the price of gold. And now you end up almost a beggar. No one really needs your gold, unlike the dollar.
        But a unified system is not yet in sight, as well as unity on a planetary scale laughing
    2. -1
      22 February 2024 11: 42
      Quote: paul3390
      So the objections are strange to say the least. But the current situation is an artificial structure, because everything has been done to make it simply impossible to trade with gold. Besides, no one bothers to introduce a basket of metals, similar to a basket of currencies, right?

      Quote: paul3390
      So the objections are strange to say the least. But the current situation is an artificial structure, because everything has been done to make it simply impossible to trade with gold. Besides, no one bothers to introduce a basket of metals, similar to a basket of currencies, right?

      good Adherents of the dollar in the Russian Federation, who do not want to admit that their stolen savings are turning into shards (cartoon “Golden Antelope”), will do their best to slow down the Russian Federation’s exit from dollar dependence. We need to explain to them that, having the natural resources of Russia, they will steal even more in the new financial system for organizing international trade. hi
    3. 0
      23 February 2024 22: 46
      Quote: paul3390
      But the current situation is an artificial structure, because everything has been done to make it simply impossible to trade with gold

      + + + drinks good fellow .. I absolutely agree with you. An allegedly universal standard has been created - the dollar, which periodically suddenly depreciates some goods and makes others expensive. I think that if the world is offered a valid standard, as I see the energy ruble, then it will very quickly gain popularity.
  6. +1
    22 February 2024 09: 20
    Motivation.. It’s the motivation to earn more that puts everything into a dead end. Introduce a ruble backed by precious metal (well, let it be gold) and fix prices. Then the motivation will change and curiosity, science, art, even sports will flourish, enthusiasts will appear. It will be a new magnificent world. Of course, much still needs to be done for this, new technologies will appear, but the world will be even more broken during this perestroika, the more there will be resistance from those who are motivated to increase income. They say there is an alternative, there is a world government, digital slavery, but they call it different things. In fact, this alternative is only possible for a short period of time, therefore, although unpleasant, it is not an alternative in essence. We happen to live in such a period of change. Affairs...
    1. -1
      23 February 2024 22: 57
      Quote: awdrgy
      Introduce a ruble backed by precious metal (well, let it be gold) and fix prices.

      no, introduce the Energoruble (ER), strictly tie it to the kilowatt, and give the World a new standard! laughing
      1. +1
        29 February 2024 10: 12
        The binding resource, by and large, does not matter (the main thing is that we have it in sufficient quantity, be finite to one degree or another and be of value in the world). As for particulars, any complication, in this case, provides more opportunities to fish in troubled waters, and this leads to the emergence of a corresponding layer of society that has negative goals, and then, purely technically, to the accelerated degradation of society as a whole and or its painful restructuring , or death. And from this point of view, the resource must be chosen correctly.
  7. 0
    22 February 2024 10: 09
    The author is right - there is no particular need to move away from the dollar on a global scale. Our slogans are precisely the slogans of the information war that affect the population. The dollar suits everyone except us for obvious reasons - but this is a temporary phenomenon.
    1. 0
      22 February 2024 11: 47
      Quote: S.Z.
      The dollar suits everyone except us

      Here you are wrong. In addition to us, under sanctions are the DPRK, Cuba, Venezuela, Iran and the growing pressure of the US Federal Reserve on China, India and other countries trading with us. hi
      1. -1
        22 February 2024 12: 17
        Quote: fif21
        Here you are wrong. In addition to us, under sanctions - the DPRK, Cuba, Venezuela, Iran and the increasing pressure of the US Federal Reserve on China, India and other countries trading with us


        These sanctions have nothing to do with what currency is used. These countries can easily make payments in dollars. The dollar, as a universal equivalent, suits even us - otherwise we can at least compare prices.

        Imagine, you need to buy 100 meters of rope, which in one place costs 100 marten tails, in another 150 squirrel tails and in a third 50 pearls. So where is it cheaper?
        1. +1
          22 February 2024 12: 34
          Quote: S.Z.
          These sanctions have nothing to do with what currency is used. These countries can easily make payments in dollars.

          ? Is not it ? The US Federal Reserve imposes secondary sanctions on banks conducting operations in international trade, in national currencies. This applies to banks in China and the UAE.... At the same time, the Central Bank of the Russian Federation cannot take loans at 0,5-1,5% from the Fed or the IMF, but is forced to take loans in cash dollars (which are then sold in the Russian Federation for rubles) from commercial banks at a high interest rate. The result is an increase in the interest rate of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, an increase in the cost of loans, and a slowdown in economic development. The reliance of Russian financial institutions on the dollar is detrimental to the Russian economy. hi
          1. -2
            22 February 2024 13: 00
            This is all tolerable for everyone - well, let them work in dollars, in the end. That is, it does not in any way encourage people to abandon the dollar, but rather the opposite.

            Russia has other problems.

            Disconnection from Swift and a direct ban on foreign banks working with Russia, as well as a direct ban on working with our banks, is a problem for Russia specifically, which is why we want to abandon the dollar. Not because he is bad, but because we cannot work with him. It would be profitable with the dollar - for example, we sold something for rupees - but no one except India needs them, or the exchange rates in other countries for rupees are such that it would be better to give as a gift than to sell.

            However, this is not important, what is important is that a single equivalent is necessary for international trade, the dollar is suitable for this role, its stability is beneficial to everyone.
            1. 0
              22 February 2024 13: 08
              Quote: S.Z.
              It would be profitable with the dollar - for example, we sold something for rupees - but no one except India needs them, or the exchange rates in other countries for rupees are such that it would be better to give as a gift than to sell.

              Has such a thought ever occurred to you to buy monetary gold in India (there are 700 tons of it there), or the work of a Russian bank in India, with an authorized capital of these rupees? hi
              1. 0
                22 February 2024 14: 30
                “Has this idea ever occurred to you to buy monetary gold in India (there are 700 tons of it there), or the work of a Russian bank in India, with an authorized capital of these rupee?”

                It's possible, probably. Buy a lot of gold (its price will immediately drop if there is a lot), sell it to China, buy yuan there, buy what you need with yuan... But this is difficult, it’s easier with the dollar.

                What for?

                The reason for this is precisely because it is impossible to work with the dollar, and not because the dollar is bad.
        2. 0
          22 February 2024 12: 41
          Quote: S.Z.
          So where is it cheaper?

          laughing Cheaper on Ali Express! wassat
          1. +1
            22 February 2024 14: 31
            The Internet is American, it's not patriotic.
            1. +1
              22 February 2024 14: 34
              Quote: S.Z.
              The Internet is American, it's not patriotic.

              But practical! wassat But when they turn it off, by that time there should already be one! hi
              1. 0
                22 February 2024 15: 30
                "But when they turn it off, by that time there should already be one! hi"

                In the current conditions, having your own is not realistic.
              2. 0
                27 February 2024 08: 30
                Excuse me, but how does an Orthodox “one of our own” differ from an American one?! Number of bits in a byte? )))
                1. 0
                  27 February 2024 08: 44
                  Quote: UserGun
                  Excuse me, but how does an Orthodox “one of our own” differ from an American one?! Number of bits in a byte? )))

                  laughing wassat lol Ask Snowden (a mattress IT specialist who worked for the CIA) and he will tell you. hi
                  1. 0
                    27 February 2024 08: 46
                    Those. You’re not able to answer clearly, but it’s easy to just blurt out something from the Tiwi repertoire? ) And yes... The word “Internet” consists of two words: “inter” and “no”) I’m afraid that your “own” is not “Internet” at all, but a simple local network)
                    1. 0
                      27 February 2024 08: 58
                      Quote: UserGun
                      Those. You’re not able to answer clearly, but it’s easy to just blurt out something from the Tiwi repertoire? ) And yes... The word “Internet” consists of two words: “inter” and “no”) I’m afraid that your “own” is not “Internet” at all, but a simple local network)

                      Well, let's talk like adults. Do you want to depend on the whims of your provider? You are disconnected from SWIFT, from YouTube, other messengers - how is that? Freedom of information transfer? Therefore, a local network is better than idiotic partners. hi
                      1. 0
                        27 February 2024 09: 03
                        Speaking to adults, SWIFT is not the Internet at all) And YouTube too) Yes, and messenger too) These are just PRIVATE offices. Type LLC and JSC)))
                      2. 0
                        27 February 2024 09: 11
                        Quote: UserGun
                        These are just PRIVATE offices. Type LLC and JSC)))

                        These private “offices” collect information from all over the world - personal, military, political, scientific, financial... If they used to say - Who owns the money, owns the world, but now the formula has changed - who owns the information, owns the world. And you don’t agree with this either? belay
                      3. 0
                        27 February 2024 09: 23
                        This is how it was before) There was no Internet, we read newspapers, stock exchange reports, bulletins of various research institutes. What does the Internet have to do with it and why anally fence yourself off from the whole world?
                      4. 0
                        27 February 2024 10: 01
                        Quote: UserGun
                        What does the Internet have to do with it and why anally fence yourself off from the whole world?

                        There is no conversation about this. wassat You need your own software, and your own Internet data center, your own Kaspersky, and not Bill Gates’ antivirus program. There is a hybrid war going on, and the Internet is part of it. Anyone who doesn't understand this is fool
                      5. 0
                        27 February 2024 10: 53
                        You see) If you talk “like an adult”, then suddenly it turns out that “your” Internet is a fiction)
        3. +1
          22 February 2024 14: 30
          Quote: S.Z.
          So where is it cheaper?

          Do you propose to solve this problem mathematically, using methods of mathematical analysis? And you will be wrong. Visit an oriental bazaar, and then you will understand that the price of a product is determined by the agreement reached as a result of bargaining. You are a theorist, but life is practice and experience. hi
          1. 0
            22 February 2024 15: 29
            "Visit an oriental bazaar, and then you will understand that the price of a product is determined by the agreement reached as a result of bargaining. You are a theorist, but life is practice and experience."

            I was at the market. And I’m not a theoretician at all - I had to engage in trading on a BN basis with other countries. And barter too.

            To understand what is profitable and what is not, you need to understand what and how much it costs. Not in parrots.

            That is, this problem is not solved at all - because it does not need to be solved. There is a universal equivalent.
    2. +3
      22 February 2024 12: 00
      Quote: S.Z.
      The dollar suits everyone

      For the time being.
      And the dollar today is a tool for buying real values ​​on a global scale for cut paper painted green.
      1. -2
        22 February 2024 14: 32
        “And the dollar today is a tool for buying real values ​​on a global scale for cut paper painted green.”

        I'm afraid to upset you - the non-cash dollar doesn't even have a color. But this is not important - what is important is that he successfully fulfills the role of a universal equivalent and behaves decently. Which suits everyone.
        1. 0
          27 February 2024 08: 59
          Absolutely right) And there will always be one currency out of many that will be preferred more than others.
    3. +1
      23 February 2024 22: 59
      Quote: S.Z.
      The author is right - there is no particular need to move away from the dollar on a global scale. Our slogans are precisely the slogans of the information war that affect the population. The dollar suits everyone except us for obvious reasons - but this is a temporary phenomenon.

      you are clearly a victim of the information war sad The dollar is a tool for pumping out the purchasing power of our money!!
  8. +1
    22 February 2024 11: 29
    in short, the conclusion: “no matter where you throw it, there’s a wedge everywhere” ((they surrounded us from all sides ((how did the USSR survive? Maybe it’s time to take something useful from there? It wasn’t all bad there, as they are now trying to tell us
  9. +7
    22 February 2024 11: 30
    The absence of a gold standard is not the norm. And an anomaly that has existed for only a few decades.
    And not for the first time, leading the participants of the system to collapse, more and more persistent and more and more comprehensive each time.
    Because money, in addition to the property of “universal equivalent,” must have one more thing: limited money supply, and this is mandatory for everyone.
    Gold is physically limited; at a minimum, it must be extracted through industrial or military efforts.
    And you can not even print the dollar or the euro, but simply create it once again by pressing the “0” key at the end of the amount.
    What the owner of the key likes, but the non-owners do not like, even if they are allies who live on the scraps of this activity. Not to mention the opponents.
    It’s like medals in figure skating: we have WADA - the medals are ours, even if only in hindsight... but this is no longer a sport, but its collapse.
    1. +1
      22 February 2024 17: 37
      Because money, in addition to the property of “universal equivalent,” must have one more thing: limited money supply, and this is mandatory for everyone.

      This is absurd, although tempting at first glance. And all because
      Gold is physically limited, it must at least be obtained at the cost of industrial or military efforts.

      This leads to:
      1) the gold equivalent will not be stable relative to itself
      2) as you approach the limit of its production, it will become pointless to produce other products - your cost will decrease in proportion to the quantity. Would you say that buyers are all for it? Undoubtedly. But they don't produce it. And for manufacturers, the proceeds from sales of, for example, 1000 cars and 10 cars will be the same. At different production costs.
      Gold served its role well in the pre-industrial era. Now the “ideal” equivalent can only be the given total labor costs. But I can’t imagine the mechanism for transferring this characteristic to real life.
      1. +1
        23 February 2024 11: 54
        And what is absurd? In the limitation of something of a universal equivalent?
        After all, if it is unlimited, how can it be an equivalent standard?
        The standard meter and kilogram have been kept in the Paris Chamber of Weights and Measures for some time. To have something to compare with.
        They are never caught, they are always killed in the same conditions, but their existence, with which everyone in the world agrees, stabilized the SI system, and forever saved the world from troubles with the life of the sacred.
        And then there were slightly different meters and kilograms, and other measures of lengths and weights.
        Once again, “slightly different”, and not “infinite” like the current dollar and derivatives.
        Can you imagine an infinite meter or kilogram and their practical application? Absurd? He is the one, and she is what you called him!
        The example with gold is more correct, it just happened historically, otherwise its price is distorted by the London Stock Exchange and the Fed, which is an anomaly.
        More and more futurists agree that the universal equivalent will be energy: the totality of generated and potential energy of all types that a country or any association of countries has can be translated into some equivalents to all other goods and services. And you can’t draw from nothing either, so the total measurement will be finite at any given moment.
        Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies have already become the equivalent of the energy spent on their production. Only, unfortunately, it was spent senselessly, on producing heat into the atmosphere, and producing ourselves - mathematical abstractions.

        1. 0
          24 February 2024 10: 23
          And what is absurd?

          It's written in my message, you just have to read it
          Quote: Well, an explanation was given
          This leads to:
          1) the gold equivalent will not be stable relative to itself
          2) as you approach the limit of its production, it will become pointless to produce other products - your cost will decrease in proportion to the quantity. Would you say that buyers are all for it? Undoubtedly. But they don't produce it. And for manufacturers, the proceeds from sales of, for example, 1000 cars and 10 cars will be the same. At different production costs.
          Gold served its role well in the pre-industrial era. Now the “ideal” equivalent can only be the given total labor costs. But I can’t imagine the mechanism for transferring this characteristic to real life.

          And your example with the standards of the meter and kilogram is an example of a logical error called “false analogy”
    2. +1
      23 February 2024 23: 02
      Quote: faterdom
      Because money, in addition to the property of “universal equivalent,” must have one more thing: limited money supply, and this is mandatory for everyone.

      and money should also have the property of accumulation, but inflation eats up the purchasing power of money and this additionally forces people to use loans
  10. +2
    22 February 2024 11: 49
    There are two currencies in the world - stable and unstable.
    Stable is gold.
    Unstable is any other currency.
    The dollar is backed by technology, and the ruble by paying for housing and communal services in Russia.
    Why, they brought gold to oil, and wood to the ruble.
  11. +3
    22 February 2024 12: 37
    Economics is the production and consumption of material goods that have value.
    Precious metals have always been the most reliable measure of value and accumulation.
    Today, gold is pegged to the dollar, and not vice versa - the gold standard of the dollar has sunk into oblivion. This allows the dollar to influence the entire world economy, and Fed shareholders to dictate their political terms.
    Intraclass contradictions give rise to the desire of some state entities to free themselves from the neocolonial dictatorship, because the invasion of foreign corporations leads to a decrease in the possible investment of capital and income of the local ruling classes. This is what caused the desire of the local ruling classes to get away from dependence on the dollar, and the so-called. “dedollarization” is the first and simplest thing that comes to mind and is one of the elements of this.
    Calculations in national candy wrappers are a big pseudo-scientific fantasy that contradicts elementary logic, the economic interests of big capital, the materialistic understanding of historical processes and social relations from the Biblical times of Cain and Abel to the present day.
    An attempt to de-dollarize the Russian Federation led to a shortage of freely convertible banknotes, an overstocking of candy wrappers, the threat of rising inflation and an increase in the key rate, a reorientation to the east and a change from dollarization to yuanization, effectively becoming a hostage to the political bargaining of the United States and China - the two largest economies in the world, pursuing the same policy of world globalization ( building a society with a common destiny - the Chinese version of globalization).
    As part of this confrontation between two world centers, both sides are pursuing a policy of political economic expansion and provision of a raw material base. Moreover, if the so-called the West sets the goal of defragmenting and decolonizing the Russian Federation, then for the PRC today it is more profitable to preserve the state integrity of the Russian Federation.
    The PRC has all the alternative financial structures to the Western ones, from world-class corporations to banks and stock exchanges, and its gold reserves make it possible to collapse the dollar at any time and deal a crushing blow to the economy of the United States and the whole world, and therefore are still unacceptable to the PRC.
    Having experience in mutual settlements between the USSR and the CMEA countries, as the chairman of the Brix, the Russian Federation announced its plan for settlements in national candy wrappers, the common denominator of which could be gold or a banknote other than the dollar. Brisyat’s gatherings don’t have long to wait, and if approved, it will greatly reduce the global dominance of the dollar and the hegemony of the West
    1. 0
      22 February 2024 13: 01
      Quote: Jacques Sekavar
      The PRC has all the alternative financial structures to the Western ones, from world-class corporations to banks and exchanges, and its gold reserves allow the dollar to collapse at any time

      The financial structures of the PRC cannot become an alternative to Western financial structures. Why ? They are controlled by the US Federal Reserve, and the basis of the financial miracle of the PRC was the Rothschild money and the transfer of production from the USA to the PRC. The United States will not easily let go of the goose that lays the golden eggs. hi
    2. -2
      26 February 2024 11: 45
      An interesting point of view... BUT lately the so-called self-determination of peoples has been gaining momentum and we are participating in this - by and large, if the US now deprives the US of the colonies with which it, along with its bases, has entangled 2/3 of the world... what will happen to the US? The French were asked to leave in Africa, the British are periodically pinched to leave their colonies, most Western countries live off colonies of various forms, without providing national development there and maintaining local fed elites. Having deprived the West of raw materials...what will happen to it? By and large, the West itself lives at the expense of those whom it robbed while conquering.
  12. 0
    22 February 2024 12: 49
    It’s interesting that the author actually started off so cheerfully. I really thought that he would still “dive” into the topic of reserve currencies.
    What can be argued is that, having the quality of a commodity in itself, gold cannot serve as an equivalent for commodity exchange. Not only can it, but it also meets the criterion of maintaining value and its self-expansion.
    It was used as an equivalent and a measure; there are problems with the global payment instrument. It is actually quite small for the current scale.
    But in the end, the author did not offer a solution: let’s develop production and raise economists, then the ruble will be a regional currency. So everything seems to be correct, let’s grow it, but even if it becomes a regional currency, how will it actually become, if we take the theses from the first parts of the material? Imports on such a scale cannot be replaced overnight; moreover, for a technological breakthrough in the first stages, it will even need to be increased.
  13. 0
    22 February 2024 20: 14
    As we can see, clearing solves the problem only partially and still leaves many bottlenecks.

    The clearing balance is settled in convertible currency. The same dollar, for example. It is also possible in gold if the counterparty agrees. According to its exchange rate.
  14. +1
    22 February 2024 21: 16
    Fatal error. Gold has a price, but why? What's so special about it? Ah, historically it happened... Well, yes, but we need to reveal it a little
    1) Gold until the mid-20th century was the densest material that can actually be obtained on a commercial scale. Consequently, it was extremely difficult to counterfeit, since any merchant could throw a handful of sand, coins, ingots into the water and then weigh what he received. In that sense it was perfect
    2) Limited production. No country in the world could increase gold production by 10% or more. Protection from inflation and the absence of a central issuer suited everyone. Hyperinflation in Spain after the collapse of America showed that not everything is so smooth
    3) Chemical resistance. Unlike grain, squirrel skins, cut paper, it was virtually eternal
    4) Value in itself. Jewelry, contact coating and other industrial applications
    This is why gold WAS historically so valuable. But now....
    1) Doesn't make sense. Gold-plated depleted uranium is indistinguishable from a 999 gold bar with the right technology
    2) Yes, it will not be possible to increase output sharply. But the same problem with any mineral
    3) There are many chemically stable compounds, chemistry does not sleep
    4) The value of gold remained as a commodity. But at the same time, its daily demand is not as great as before

    Why not use, say, oil or gas? The value is obvious to the whole world, storage is more problematic, but solvable, transportation is solved. Inflation - no
    1. 0
      23 February 2024 19: 05
      Quote: kamakama
      Why not use, say, oil or gas?

      Or, for example, clean water...Or grain, or, say, switch to the socialist principle of the economy and deprive the oligarchs, through nationalization of resources, production, energy, of the right to receive dollars for Russian metals, gas, oil, etc.?
      The author did not mention this. He painted for Russia some kind of picture of the Apocalypse and the eternal hegemony of the dollar for the world... And who said that Russia will need to spend in dollars? And who said that the countries of the world will continue to watch the United States inflate its foreign debt bubble?
      Russia is not obliged to sell its goods for a currency it cannot use. There are two interesting ways to break this vicious circle. You have already guessed about the first one, but there is no need to talk about the second one. You just need to create a currency like Bitcoin.
      We also need to negotiate with countries on trade based on parity in the volume of goods. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs should operate trade missions like in the USSR. Then for 100 tons of grain we can get 000 tons of bananas (for example) from Africa...
      There is more than one way out. We need to create production...Produce and not speculate.
      And these solutions are much better than those offered to us by the United States and the West.
    2. -1
      25 February 2024 07: 28
      Quote: kamakama
      Why not use, say, oil or gas?

      Why not actually stick to a kilowatt, one energy ruble = 1 kilowatt? provided with the country's infrastructure
  15. +1
    23 February 2024 17: 56
    And as a result, the price of gold as a raw material and its price as money are different. It's inconvenient to say the least.
    Just imagine a scene - “We are selling a shipment of gold. The price per ounce is two ounces.”

    The scene “we are selling a batch of rupees, the price for a thousand is XXX dollars” does not confuse anyone? In short, I’ll probably refrain from reading further. My attic has limited capacity, I won’t litter it.
  16. 0
    23 February 2024 22: 10
    The article is good. True. The United States is using force to move its dollar. We would like to ride this wave with Iran and Saudi Arabia into an alliance with a single currency. This currency is the embodiment of gas and oil - the world would pray for us.
    1. 0
      25 February 2024 07: 29
      Quote: Fakapych
      This currency is the embodiment of gas and oil - the world would pray for us.

      money is a unit of value, and value is a measure of labor
      1. +1
        27 February 2024 08: 37
        And the cost of labor is a measure of technological development)
  17. +2
    24 February 2024 11: 43
    Quote: aybolyt678
    Quote: faterdom
    Because money, in addition to the property of “universal equivalent,” must have one more thing: limited money supply, and this is mandatory for everyone.

    and money should also have the property of accumulation, but inflation eats up the purchasing power of money and this additionally forces people to use loans

    A limited amount of money cannot have inflation; on the contrary, there can even be deflation, an increase in the exchange rate of money if the gross quantity of goods and services increases. Ideally, the amount of money supply should exactly correspond to this indicator, then accumulation becomes profitable and understandable, planning is easy, but development proceeds only in an extensive way - the expansion of arable land, fishing areas or pastures, the capture or opening of new mines.
    Any step of scientific and technological revolution leads to a reduction by someone in the forefront of their personal costs and... unjustified(?) enrichment. Either justified, but as a result of the development of productive forces, inflation always arises, or in another way, a developing society always inflations, within normal limits corresponding to the degree of this development.
    Like this. Except that simpler parasites like to live in complex organisms, and in this case it is financial capital, which, developing and consuming more and more resources for itself, introduces unreasonable inflation, which, like cancer cells with rapid growth, destroys the body.
    This is precisely what humanity has already encountered before, and therefore in world religions there is disapproval and even prohibitions on such activities, some for everyone, and among the chosen people - in relation to their own. And the American tumor of 31 trillion is just that, in its neglected form.
    1. 0
      25 February 2024 07: 37
      Quote: faterdom
      Ideally, the amount of money supply should exactly correspond to this indicator, then accumulation becomes profitable and understandable, planning is easy, but development proceeds only in an extensive way

      this is debatable, arable land can be improved by fertilizers, selection and the development of technology. In Marx, I remember just the opposite, that technical development leads to deflation.
      according to Keynes, where money is the equivalent of goods, yes, deflation is bad
      1. +1
        25 February 2024 11: 54
        Ah, I also remember that Marx’s teaching is omnipotent because it is true.
        I would even put it the other way around: it’s true, because omnipotently, the OGPU will explain who didn’t get it...
        It was impossible to fashion a dogma out of Marxism; by the way, Lenin himself was a master of improvisation with a great sense of the moment, and no matter what path we went on, had he lived another ten years, options are possible.
        As an example, there is a series of articles by Shpakovsky about medieval guild workers: both the number of members of the guild in the city and the technological standards of how and what to do were strictly limited. That is, in order to maintain their level of income, they could limit progress - they fought against inflation.
        True, the import of Spanish gold from America and the English industrial revolution did not help them even once.
        1. 0
          25 February 2024 12: 01
          Quote: faterdom
          I remember that Marx’s teaching is omnipotent because it is true.

          Usually this phrase meant class struggle. This is precisely the mistake. Another thing is that Marx systematized and wrote Political Economy, and if we used it as a system of terms and guidelines there would not be such a mess in our heads.
          Quote: faterdom
          That is, in order to maintain their level of income, they could limit progress - they fought against inflation.

          actually we were talking about deflation
  18. 0
    25 February 2024 11: 42
    Imports are not 213, but 285 billion. Well, this is so, for the sake of correctness. If the yuan becomes the third reserve currency, many questions and risks will disappear. But this is unacceptable for the golden billion, they will throw sticks at you. The simplest stick is to prevent China from supplying their countries with yuan. In other words: for example, the European Union - “we give you our goods for a euro, and you give us yours, also for a euro.” There is still a long road ahead. But there is a ray of light - the US national debt. It can swallow up the dollar. Or we will have to reconsider our entire foreign policy.
    1. 0
      27 February 2024 08: 35
      Quote: Glagol1
      But there is a ray of light - the US national debt


      You are drowning here for the yuan, but what debt does China have now? )
  19. 0
    26 February 2024 11: 11
    A good article for understanding the situation, as they say, explained on the fingers...BUT by using the dollar as a means of saving and payment, we support the US economy...and this is not right...whether someone likes it or not. Using bucks we play by their rules. And I position myself as a world power, despite everything, Russia is losing both politically and economically...IMHO
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    26 February 2024 17: 12
    International trade can generally be carried out through barter settlements
  21. +1
    27 February 2024 02: 23
    The collapse of the dollar, or rather, there will certainly be demand for it on the world market. But of course it won’t be tomorrow. There are no fools to bury themselves with the dollar - all economies are too connected. That’s why Russia, China and their followers are dragging out this process for decades...