Russian fleet. Published by Grand Duke Alexander Mikhailovich

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[Frigate]

Great article with excellent figures and specifications. Author PLUS.

[Andrey77]

The author has two pluses! Where does such material come from and in good quality?

[Vladimirets]

Many thanks to the author, very interesting. The ships were pleased with their names, immediately the images of the old condo Russian fleet, mustachioed boatswomen with whistles, taut officers with daggers get up.

[AK-47]

The publication of the Great Prince Alexander Mikhailovich

A wonderful fleet was in Russia.
Popovs “Vice Admiral Popov” and “Novgorod” were especially struck, it is interesting what their purpose is, weapons are not visible, maybe it's floating churches.
Impressive with their unusual appearance are the gunboat Rain, destroyers Sveoborg, Rochensalm and Luga.
And what are the names of the ships, the poem.

[Vladimirets]

And what a perfect order on the ship!

[AK-47]

Quote: Vladimirets

And what a perfect order on the ship!

Yes, our ancestors didn’t slurp cabbage soup.

[Captain45]

Quote: Vladimirets

And what a perfect order on the ship!

I don’t remember either Stanyukovich, or Novikov_Priboya, how the old sailor explained the salag for cleanliness on the ship, I do not remember verbatim, but something like that and after tidying the commander let our cap with a white cover on the deck. And if there is even a speck of dust on the cover you need it rightly. Cleanness is needed so that wounded warriors on the deck are not infected.

[Andrey77]

Could this have happened when, with a handkerchief, Zampotech checked the equipment after washing?

[borisst64]

Quote: AK-47

I wonder what their purpose is

Popovki are monitors, built at the initiative of Admiral Popov, 11 - 12 inch guns.

[Captain45]

Quote: AK-47

Popovs “Vice Admiral Popov” and “Novgorod” were especially struck, it is interesting what their purpose is, weapons are not visible, maybe it's floating churches.

These are artillery ships designed by Admiral Popov, the forerunners of monitors. The project was borrowed from the Americans, they built them for the rivers of the North and South. Popov borrowed the idea and began to build sea ships. The funny thing is that the hull contours were almost round, like pans . No seaworthiness, in a word - they sailed like r ... but in the hole.

[Andrey77]

Well, their task was to shoot, not to swim.

[omsbon]

Article (+). Very interesting and informative.
I rack my brains, what are priests?

[AK-47]

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I rack my brains, what are priests?

Popovka is a type of Russian round battleship designed and built in theory and under the direction of Vice Admiral Popov and named after him.
As early as 1863, the Ministry of the Sea raised the question of building rafts, floating batteries and monitors, shrouded in armor in the south of Russia, to protect the entrances to the Sea of ​​Azov and the Dnieper-Bug estuary.
At the same time, the Ministry of War set three conditions that these ships had to satisfy: -by the conditions of the terrain, they should not sit deeper than 12 or 14 feet (3,7-4,3 m); - must have a greater thickness of the armor than the then existing foreign battleships; - must wear the largest caliber of serf guns, that is, at least 11 - inch rifled steel guns.
The way out of this difficult situation was given by the project of the retinue of His Majesty Rear Admiral A.A. Popov, who proposed the construction of round ships. This form made it possible for the vessel with very little draft to carry the thickest armor and artillery of the largest caliber guns, which was unthinkable for ships of existing structures.

[omsbon]

Valery Vasilievich! Thanks for the clarification, did not know.

[predator.3]

As I understand it, these are ships of the 70-80s. 19th century.
Thanks to the author for an interesting excursion!

[biglow]

names like a song. Surprisingly many sailing ships at the end of the nineteenth century, the enemies also had so many sailing ships or not?

[Andrey77]

No. The enemies were already under construction with might and main. The gunboat "Koreets", of course, helped the first-class cruiser "Varyag", only because of the Koreyets the cruiser had to keep the speed at the level of this old boat. :(

[Dikremnij]

The selection is cool, if only instead of pictures of a photograph ...

[8 company]

Thank you, really, very interesting. Under the "rotten" autocracy, the fleet was not cut, but lovingly, I would say, was built and developed.

[Alexander Petrovich]

And you are a joker)) Probably read little about the imperial fleet and its condition at that time. Well, I’ll just say that the Russo-Japanese war refutes your words.

[xan]

[quote = AK-47] And what are the names of the ships, a poem.
[quote = biglow] names like a song [/ quote]
also trudge, especially liked the yacht "Princess"
excellent aesthetic taste was among those who called the ships of the imperial fleet
what can I say, blue blood

[Alexander Petrovich]

In my opinion, "leave me alone" sounds better))

[755962]

They built, and in considerable quantities, interesting both from an engineering point of view and aesthetic .. What are they all the same beautiful .. Especially sailing ..

Clipper "Plastun"
(1879)
since 1892 - cruiser 2 ranks

Frigate
"Duke of Edinburgh"
November 1877, XNUMX

[Kubanets]

Article plus. It is a pity that the author did not mention that the entire collection was composed of paintings by captain 1st rank B Ignatius of the battleship commander Prince Suvorov heroically killed in the Tsussima battle

[AK-47]

Quote: Kubanets

. It is a pity that the author did not mention that the entire collection was composed of paintings by captain 1st rank V Ignacius commander of the battleship Prince Suvorov heroically killed in the Tsussim battle

Vasily Vasilievich Ignatius (June 21, 1854 - May 14, 1905) - Russian naval officer, captain of the 1st rank, hero of the Tsushima battle, a famous painter-marine painter.
In the fleet from 13.04.1872/14.05.1905/XNUMX to XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX. Commanded: minosock "Hawk"; minnosok "Chicken"; destroyer Luga; gunboat "Tornado"; destroyer "Explosion"; Hurricane Monitor the Horseman mine cruiser; squadron battleship “Prince Suvorov”.
1904-1905 - Participated in the Tsushima campaign and battle.
May 14, 1905 - Killed at about 16.00, being in the middle battery of the battleship “Prince Suvorov”.

[Kars]

8 company Today, 12:05 | Russian fleet. Published by Grand Duke Alexander Mikhailovich 1 Thank you, really, very interesting. Under the "rotten" autocracy, the fleet was not cut, but lovingly, I would say, was built and developed.

Yes, and drowned in the Yellow Sea, Tsushima, on the roads of Sevastopol.

[Askold]

Yes ... Their fates, too, are somewhat similar,
something like the fate of people ...
Epochs are born, reach their heyday and fade away, leaving behind a memory of their former power. And if not so long ago we heard the phrase "We are going under a nuclear engine", then at that time, they probably said "... under a steam engine"
What a beautiful symbiosis of a sail and a steam engine. But in the year this publication was published, the armored cruiser "Rurik" was already launched and completed - the last of the large ships of the Russian navy carrying full sail equipment, in addition to steam engines. It is not yet in the reference book, but this greatest creation of Russian shipbuilders, in fact a symbol of its era, will have triumphs at parades and a heroic death in the Far East in a battle with Kamimura's squadron.
Many thanks to the author.

[755962]

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cruiser "Rurik"

The feat of "Rurik" captured on a Japanese postcard
It’s sad, but true: to this day we still don’t have a monument that would perpetuate the feat of the Ruriks. Obviously, the command of the Pacific Fleet did not have 100 years to do this, not in words, but in practice. And from the street, named after the cruiser "Rurik" even under the tsar-priest, who ran from the Pokrovsky cemetery down to the Amur Bay, nowadays there is practically nothing left ...

Perhaps the fleet and the new city government, unlike their predecessors, will find time and consider the issue of perpetuating the memory of the cruiser "Rurik" in Vladivostok. I'd love to hope so.

[Raptor75]

"Monomakh", "Donskoy", "Nakhimov" ... How these old men got to Tsushima ... They had no chance, but they fought as best they could and did not disgrace St. Andrew's flag.

[Andrey77]

And where to go? We are used to holding the line at all costs. But was it necessary?

[RoTTor]

The book is good, the illustrations are wonderful. And the fleet - ....
Most of the ships pictured there died in the Russo-Japanese War. Mostly inglorious, under Tsushima.
The imperial fleet in the first years of its existence fought with a small and not very strong Swedish fleet, and then - mainly with a fleet of a rather backward Turkey, a knowingly weaker enemy.
Met with the Japanese and - great confusion, as the creator of the Russian fleet, Emperor Peter the Great used to say.
Naval officers, with the exception of the officer of the hydrograph corps — our travelers and discoverers — were far from ideal. To put it mildly. This rotten-white bone did not consider navigators and other “specialists” to be full-fledged officers, even their ranks were not naval ones. Moreover, engineers of the third grade were engineers and mechanics. There is no need to talk about the attitude of the officer to the sailors. It is logical that it was the sailors of the Russian fleet who became the vanguard of the revolution, the support of the Bolsheviks.

[Andrey77]

The officers of the BS-5 were considered to be people, but their word was the last. The attitude of officers to sailors depends only on the specific officer (as now), do not interfere with everything in a heap.

[xan]

RoTTor,
they wrote nonsense
The assault on Corfu is an outstanding example of fleet combat capability
Athos battle - they fought better than the allies of the British and French.