If you doubt whether you need our submarines, then we are coming to you

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If you doubt whether you need our submarines, then we are coming to you

Washington's recent decision to send 6 aircraft carriers to the Asia-Pacific zone is not some unexpected move in its growing confrontation with China. In essence, this is another step to increase pressure on the main enemy of the United States in the struggle for world leadership. The United States set out to undermine China's economic power at all costs, slow down its dynamic development in the field of electronics, cybernetics, nuclear research, strengthening its defense capabilities, etc.

Intensifying tensions and the threat of instability best contribute to capital flight from the Asia-Pacific region. The Taiwan issue, the growth of North Korea's missile ambitions, the aggravation of territorial disputes between the countries of Oceania (East Timor, Solomon Islands, Papua New Guinea and others), the intensification of the activities of terrorist organizations, and the increase in tension in interstate relations cannot but worry the business circles of investor countries when considering the prospects of your business in the Asia-Pacific region.



To strengthen their influence in this strategically important region of the planet, the Anglo-Saxons, led by the United States, created a coalition in 2021 consisting of: USA - Great Britain - Australia. The new block was called AUCUS. Its goal is clear and understandable: the creation of a military structure to fight the PRC and its growing influence on the Asia-Pacific countries.

But the Americans would not be Yankees if they fought their opponents with their own hands. No, this is not in the spirit of Uncle Sam. Give him assistants, preferably among the aborigines, so that he does not have to go far for manpower, but use, so to speak, local resources.

And now, the Americans, putting together a coalition against China, carefully invited the Australians into it, since they, being a dominion of the British Crown, did not really resist.

Considering that the Celestial Empire is very dependent on export-import transactions, mainly carried out by sea, it would be logical to believe that this is where the Achilles heel of the Chinese economy lies. Currently, the main threat to Chinese trade is transit through the Strait of Malacca. Navigation along it for Beijing could be closed at any time in the event of a conflict with the United States.

The Chinese understand this very well. Therefore, they are building their navy at an unprecedented pace. The completion of the third aircraft carrier afloat is rapidly being completed, and new aircraft are being created for it. However, in underwater shipbuilding, the Chinese still have a serious lag behind their potential enemy. Pentagon strategists decided to take advantage of this, knowing that Australia had long planned to rearm its submarine fleet. Canberra even held a competition for the construction of new submarines, which, as we all remember well, was won by a French company.

But the American “partners” decided to provide allied assistance to their younger brothers in the Anglo-Saxon coalition and offered their services, which they could not refuse. Moreover, this was done in such a way that the Australian government agreed to terminate the contract previously concluded with the French, even to the detriment of its business reputation.

Обращаясь к stories issue, it should be noted that the construction of new generation attack submarines (Project SEA 1000) was determined by defense spending back in 2016. At the same time, the new submarines had to be superior to the existing ones in all major performance characteristics.

Also in the White Paper 2016, it was planned to modernize 6 Collins-class submarines in service with the Australian Navy. Collins-class submarines are very good warships. This is an ocean-going submarine, the total displacement of which is 3 tons, length - 400 m, width - 78 m, diving depth reaches 8 m, maximum underwater speed - 300 knots, endurance - 21 days, cruising range - 50 miles on the surface position and 11 miles - by economical underwater.


Collins-class submarine at sea

According to the specified technical characteristics, the new boat had to have a displacement of at least 4 tons, with an air-independent power plant, the ability to strike ground, surface and underwater targets, and also be suitable for carrying out operations using autonomous underwater vehicles. With new means of detecting and countering the enemy, with increased underwater stealth and increased underwater travel.

With this set of requirements, a competition for the design and construction of a new submarine was announced in 2015. The French company Naval Group, the Japanese Mitsubishi/Kawasaki and the German Thyssen-Krupp Marine Systems took part in the competition and presented their projects and conditions for their implementation to the Australians for consideration.

In 2016, a competition was held, which was won by a French company with the Shortfin Barracuda project in a non-nuclear design. In fact, it was a French Suffren-type submarine with a VNEU (closed-cycle steam-gas turbine) with a displacement of 4 tons, and a BYG-700 combat control system (SBU) jointly produced with the United States. It was planned to purchase 1 hulls of the new non-submarine submarine. At the same time, the cost of development and construction of the entire series was estimated at $12 billion.


Barracuda-type submarine heading to base

The Americans and British were not going to give such a fat piece of the pie to the French. A tough behind-the-scenes struggle between financial and industrial groups began, putting pressure on the Australian leadership, which eventually had to abandon the French project in favor of the United States. The Americans offered Canberra to build a Virginia-class submarine in an export version. True, the number is smaller, only eight, instead of 12 units.


Virginia-class submarine on the surface

The Americans also promised to equip new Australian submarines with Tomahawk sea-launched cruise missiles (SLCMs) with a conventional warhead. At the same time, the United States pledged to transfer technology for constructing submarines to the Australians with the possibility of their assembly at a new shipyard in Adelaide. As part of the FMS (Foreign Military Sales) program, the Americans also pledged to supply new equipment to Australian shipyards for the construction of these submarines.

After the Americans fulfill their obligations, it is expected that the Australian Navy will become the seventh in the list of owners of nuclear-powered submarines.

But, as is usually the case, the natives do not have enough money for such a large-scale project. Therefore, to reduce costs, the option of leasing future submarines instead of purchasing them is being considered. The international experience of leasing submarines from the Russian Federation to India shows this possibility. At the same time, new crews learn experience in operating ships with nuclear power plants, skills in handling automation and telemechanics systems of complex power systems, features of implementing radiation safety regimes, and eliminating incidents with auxiliary equipment of nuclear power plants.

But the English partners also did not want to stay without their share of the pie. It is assumed that nuclear power plants for Australian submarines will be supplied by Rolls-Royce. These nuclear power plants will be the same as those on the British Navy's Dreadnought-class SSBNs. But operating a nuclear power plant is new and dangerous. Additional expenses will be required to train specialists to maintain nuclear power plants and ensure the radiation safety regime on the ship and at the base. The agreement of the parties provides for the training of about 2027 thousand people in the USA and Great Britain until 2 (in the required scientific, engineering and technical specialties).

And before Canberra acquires its own submarines, starting in 2027, it is planned to deploy 4 American Virginia-class submarines and one British Astute-class submarine on a rotational basis at Stirling Naval Base (Perth). By the same date, it is planned to complete the additional equipment of the berth and coastal infrastructure of the submarine’s basing point.

The Collins-class submarines currently in service with the Australian Navy are scheduled to be decommissioned by 2038–2039. They should be replaced by 3 Virginia-class submarines built (or transferred after a major overhaul). The possibility of supplying an additional 2 boats of this type is also being considered.

Taking into account the requests of the command of the Australian Navy, it is planned to begin the construction of promising Aucus-class submarines in the United Kingdom, the technical appearance of which has not yet been determined. It is expected that the first hull will be built at the British shipyard of the BAE Systems company in Barrow-Furness, and subsequent ones at the facilities of Australian enterprises in Adelaide.

In total, by 2060, the Australian Navy intends to have 8 new type submarines in its fleet. And the submarines leased and previously built under the Virginia project will be withdrawn from the Navy and transferred to the owner for further disposal.

A logical question arises: why is such increased attention in AUCUS paid to the rearmament of the Australian fleet with nuclear submarines?

It seems to me that the whole point is that it is the submarines armed with cruise missiles, anti-ship missiles, and heavy torpedoes that are best able to cope with the task of blockade operations in the shipping zone of the Strait of Malacca. It would not be superfluous to recall that it was the prevention (embargo) of oil tankers going to Japanese ports that was the trigger for the start of large-scale hostilities in the Pacific Ocean. Japan did not wait for economic strangulation and launched a preemptive strike on the American fleet at Pearl Harbor. The great war began in the Pacific Ocean.

Maybe the Yankees, who love repeating successful feints, remembered history and are trying to provoke Chairman Xi according to the Japanese version of 80 years ago. However, we may get a very specific answer to this very soon. It seems that, at the instigation of the American administration, everything is heading towards this.
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  1. +2
    20 February 2024 05: 52
    Business and nothing personal. With the money spent on armaments, it was possible, for example, to green the entire Sahara, but this invested money will not be returned. It is not profitable. Okay, God bless the Sahara, “the seas and oceans”, clean up the garbage.
  2. 0
    20 February 2024 06: 23
    French nuclear submarines have the safest nuclear reactors. But the struggle for the monopoly of their products leads to such results. For some time now, powerful weapons have become the main prestige of countries. All social guarantees will soon be put an end to. Previously, all military troubles were resolved by two countries: the USA and the USSR. We need to look at what is preventing China and Russia from uniting in a military alliance. We know a little about China. But it also knows a lot about our internal life. Removing these rough edges is both simple and at the same time difficult. As they say, the deep state is in the way.
    1. 0
      20 February 2024 12: 39
      Are you absolutely sure about this or is it again servility before the West, the Russians who consider themselves bast shoes? Link to evidence to the studio “Otherwise fftopka!” (c) As they said back in the days of FidoNet
    2. +1
      20 February 2024 14: 08
      Quote: Nikolay Malyugin
      We need to look at what is preventing China and Russia from uniting in a military alliance

      For now, this is impossible due to the fact that China is very tied to the American market. Yes, and European too. His main markets are there.
  3. 0
    20 February 2024 07: 05
    Thanks for the article, Alexander!
    It seems to me that the whole point is that it is the submarines armed with cruise missiles, anti-ship missiles, and heavy torpedoes that are best able to cope with the task of blockade operations in the shipping zone of the Strait of Malacca.

    Question on this topic: is the blockade of the Bering Strait not included in the plans of AUKUS?
    After all, tankers are refueled incl. and in the Arctic Ocean.
    1. +2
      20 February 2024 08: 16
      Quote: Victor Leningradets
      and the blockade of the Bering Strait is not included in AUKUS’s plans?

      Most likely no. In a big war, it will be filled with mines and will be controlled by submarines and aircraft. The main artery is the Strait of Malacca, through which about 500 million tons of petroleum products flow to China. From Russia, incl. and along the NSR only, 107 million tons.
      1. 0
        20 February 2024 10: 58
        Thank you, but there is also LNG, and we have significant plans for China.
        This means we will have to liberate Alaska and the Aleutian Islands.
        1. +2
          20 February 2024 14: 36
          Quote: Victor Leningradets
          This means we will have to liberate Alaska and the Aleutian Islands.

          When I served in the North, we had a saying: “It’s good that the Tsar sold Alaska!” Otherwise, you would also have to serve there... This is when there is a polar night and a snowstorm at minus 30*C, and you have to go to work. But everyone understood that it was NECESSARY!!! And they served not out of fear, but out of conscience! And by the way, they loved the NORTH very much, strange as it may seem at first glance. Yes
          1. +1
            20 February 2024 16: 55
            He worked for the Federation Council only as a representative of industry. And I caught frosts in Vorkuta when I was working on the Usinsk water supply system.
            And mostly he worked at the Pacific Fleet. It’s also not sugar, but we understood that we needed to develop this region. And they were already talking about Alaska back then - the Eastern Castle for the Northern Fleet.
  4. +4
    20 February 2024 07: 20
    In total, by 2060, the Australian Navy intends to have 8 new type submarines in its fleet.

    After 36 years??? Americans don't have that much time. If we “pressure” China, it will be in the next ten to fifteen years, then it will be too late. Already now, a new generation is growing and studying in the PRC, the smartest, most progressive and numerous, and it is on them that the main hopes of the country are pinned. In 36 years, with several hundred million motivated and highly educated people, China will be the number one superpower by any measure.
    1. +2
      20 February 2024 08: 27
      Quote: Doccor18
      In total, by 2060, the Australian Navy intends to have 8 new type submarines in its fleet.
      After 36 years??? Americans don't have that much time.

      1. These are plans for the construction of a submarine project SEA1000 (a new submarine project developed specifically for the Australian Navy);
      2. By 2027, the Yankees must lease their Virginias to the Australians.
      This is all stated in the article.
      And before Canberra acquires its own submarines, starting from 2027, four American Virginia-class submarines and one British Astute-class submarine are expected to be deployed on a rotational basis at the Stirling naval base (Perth).
      hi
      1. +1
        20 February 2024 08: 57
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        By 2027, the Yankees must lease their Virginias to the Australians.

        Leasing will help the Australians quickly master the materiel, but such a gigantic time gap in the transfer of several hulls can only indicate commissioning problems. The difficulties of updating the American submarine fleet have long been heard, the introduction of two pennants per year is still only a dream. All this only indicates that the Americans are building a military alliance, but will not in any way affect its combat effectiveness in the medium term. Against this background, the rapid development of the PLA Navy looks much more optimistic...
        hi
        1. +2
          20 February 2024 09: 11
          1. Until the age of 27 - training of specialists and practice on US submarines, in order to then move on to their independent operation. States are saving on their crews.
          2. project of a new submarine for Austria. Not yet. The British paint him. They will draw it, they will build it, then develop it. Song before the 60s. Why did the Toms do this? Because they are composing their SSN(X) project, and are also tied to Columbia, the first hull of which is due to be delivered to the fleet in 2031.
          3. Due to the increasing complexity and cost of the IUD structure, everyone has difficulties. The Yankees are no exception. This is not easy for us either. Whales? They are still seriously behind us and the Ams in terms of noise and transport reactors. If they manage to rush forward in underwater shipbuilding - honor and praise to them. But so far things aren’t working out very well. (Nothing to copy and paste from. And we don’t have our own school yet)
          AHA.
    2. +1
      20 February 2024 10: 49
      If something happens, China will have to butt heads not only with the Americans, but also with the Japanese, Koreans, Australians, and British. And he won’t be able to do this even with the most optimistic forecasts.

      And China now has a big problem because of the consequences of the one-child policy.
      1. +1
        20 February 2024 11: 02
        Quote: Kmon
        If something happens, China will have to butt heads with more than just the Americans.

        This is understandable, all sorts of AUKUS breed for this purpose...
        Quote: Kmon
        also with the Japanese, Koreans, Australians, British.

        1. Australians are still capable of little.
        2. South Koreans will be tied head over heels by their “brothers from the north” (the Chinese will take care).
        3. The British will not be able to highlight so much: an AUG (an aircraft carrier with 2-3 ships of the destroyer/frigate class) and a couple of MAPLs, this is unlikely to influence the outcome of the conflict...
        4. With the Japanese, everything is getting more serious, and here a lot will depend on Russia’s position... If Russia does not side with China, then the Japanese Navy will greatly complicate the task of the PLA.
        1. +1
          20 February 2024 11: 06
          Well, so far the Chinese fleet is unable to challenge the American one. And in the future they will also purchase submarines.
          How are the North Koreans doing with their fleet? It’s unlikely to be enough to block everything in the south.
          However, it will be a significant help.
          You might think that if it gets up, our fleet will change something (no).
        2. 0
          20 February 2024 19: 26
          Quote: Doccor18
          The British will be able to highlight not so much: an AUG (an aircraft carrier with 2-3 ships of the destroyer/frigate class) and a couple of MAPLs, this is unlikely to influence the outcome of the conflict...

          The British will have to guard the Atlantic if anything serious happens in the Asia-Pacific region. The Germans and French alone cannot cope with our Northern Fleet. And there are also APRK SN and Ashes with CRBD in special equipment. NATO knows all this and is very afraid. Therefore, they will still send a couple of EM shaved ones for formality, showing solidarity with the Yankees, but, I suppose, no more than that.
          Quote: Doccor18
          With the Japanese, everything is getting more serious, and here a lot will depend on Russia’s position... If Russia does not side with China, then the Japanese Navy will greatly complicate the task of the PLA.

          The Japanese take submersibles very seriously. 22 boats (2 - training), of which 11 are the newest! with LIAB: up to 21 days under water - easily! Now they are building TAIGEI - 33 days with a speed of 7,0 knots, or 280 hours with a speed of 10,0 knots under water! They carry anti-ship missiles and heavy torpedoes... Computer-based hydroacoustics combined into an automated control system! This is extremely serious...
          We will side with the PRC; we simply have no other choice. And we’ll probably “take Japan out of the war” with an ultimatum. If they refuse, their islands will go under water, turning into New Atlantis. They know it. They even made a movie like this.
          1. 0
            23 February 2024 18: 24
            Their islands are protected by American bases. Launching a nuclear strike on them is the same as launching a nuclear strike on the United States.

            And we shouldn’t overestimate our fleets; the Europeans are enough for them even without the British and 20% of the Americans. Everything else can easily be ironed out by the Chinese.
  5. 0
    20 February 2024 09: 23
    Collins-class submarines were good, only on paper. The rest is nothing but problems. At the moment, there is only one “on the go”. The rest are awaiting disposal. The timing of receipt and types of PLA listed by the author also raise strong doubts. Since there is not enough “Virginia” in the mattress covers themselves, we have to extend the service life of the “elks” and spend a lot of money on their repairs. So, this is all just theory. What it will be like in practice, God knows.
    1. +1
      20 February 2024 09: 58
      Quote: TermNachTER
      The rest is nothing but problems

      To be fair, the speed, maneuverability and diving depth of these boats even exceeded the designers’ expectations, but otherwise the disadvantages far outweighed the advantages. What can I say, the Australians couldn’t even train enough crews for this equipment, which is why, among other things, the submarines were forced to stand at the quay wall... And now they decided to jump into the nuclear club... wassat
      1. 0
        20 February 2024 10: 48
        Speed, diving depth, etc. are known only from Australian sources. How reliable they are - I am tormented by vague doubts. But everyone knows the reliability and availability of crews. Basically, the "Collins" were stationed in the bases; at the moment, there was only one conditionally combat-ready one. Where do they, all together, want to find as many as eight extra MAPLs? My imagination is lacking.
  6. +1
    20 February 2024 10: 58
    On the other hand, uranium supplies from Russia to the United States have increased; does this mean we are helping to develop the nuclear fleet of the United States and its allies?
    1. 0
      20 February 2024 20: 06
      Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
      The Japanese... are building t.TAIGEI - 33 days with a speed of 7,0 knots...


      33 days is 782 hours x 7 knots = 5474 miles
      for comparison
      Varshavyanka in RDP mode at a speed of 7 knots - 7500 miles.
      oh miracle!!! the result was a comparable range on batteries and on a diesel engine, and this is with air from the atmosphere... how is that?
      for reference
      energy density of lithium-ion batteries up to 240 Wh/kg,
      calorific value of diesel fuel 11,9 kW/kg
      that is, diesel fuel has 50 times more, this means that even if you throw diesel and diesel fuel out of the boat and fill it all the way with batteries, magic won’t happen... you don’t need everything. take on faith
  7. -1
    21 February 2024 01: 26
    But, as is usually the case, the natives do not have enough money for such a large-scale project.

    What nonsense. In fact, Merino sheep do not have enough production capacity.