What could lead to the institution or failure to complete a real criminal case against former Minister Serdyukov?

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What could lead to the institution or failure to complete a real criminal case against former Minister Serdyukov?The noisiest story last year, related to corruption scandals in the Ministry of Defense of the companies under the control of the ministry, not only 2013 flowed into the year, but also continued to accumulate additional details. Literally weekly from the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the PRT or the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation there are reports that new facts were found in a certain direction of the cumbersome case. At the same time, the facts are often such that it seems that the main figure of all this scandal can be safely missed for a soft spot. However, the gentleman’s place of this gentleman is still safe and sound, as are the mild places of his very closest comrades, but birds of the highest flying experience teeth of consequence.

Another painful "bite" of the investigation was experienced by Ekaterina Smetanova - the notorious director of OOO "CPP" Expert ". Now, against this lady, a criminal case was initiated under the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation under the number 204 in the part that corresponds to such a crime as a commercial bribery. Smetanov is accused of assisting the realization of the so-called non-core real estate of the Ministry of Defense at a lower price to the "necessary" firms, receiving for this a "special reward" from representatives of these firms. Smetanova herself was detained at the time of receiving one of these rewards in the form of 6 million rubles. In addition, the investigators managed to find out what she received as gifts from, let's say, fans of her professional activities, travel vouchers (to Israel and the Czech Republic) for a total of about half a million rubles, as well as two tablet computers. It is a pity not a letter of thanks with a detailed description of what specifically gave Smetanov and her husband ...

At the same time in relation to Smetanova was the same preventive measure. Recall that her colleague in the activities of Oboronservis, Ms. Vasilyeva, in the presence of a scattering of suspicions from investigators at the same time, “languishes” not at all behind bars, but at home, and it was decided not to change the measure of restraint. The judge explained the question of why in respect of figurants of the same case in fact, different preventive measures were chosen: Yekaterina Smetanova, with two children, had to wait for the court session behind bars, despite the fact that she cooperated with the investigation, but Yevgeny Vasilyeva, who plays in silence - at home and in comfort ... The judge’s explanations looked something like this: the investigation itself requested that Vasilyeva be under house arrest.

This is a strange consequence ... Electoral ... Yes, so selective that it can not figure out what to do (the investigation) in relation to the key figure of this whole grandiose scandal - Anatoly Eduardovich Serdyukov. At first, sort of, they detached him into witnesses, who, while at the post of Minister of War, without delving into the essence of the documents, drove a fountain pen over them. Then, apparently, they realized that such a concept as “the witness of Serdyukov” could cause a clearly uncontrollable reaction of the masses, and began to think about how to get “access to the body” after our heads said that “it was a good minister” .. .

At that moment, not only details of how the Ministry of Defense buildings were selling at reduced prices and repair work at non-existent facilities were on the horizon, but also the details of the unexpectedly wild growth of greenery in the Astrakhan steppe near the coast of the Caspian Sea. Here Serdyukov’s son-in-law (sister’s husband), and documents for the construction of the 8 km of a road with bridges and the purchase of land for the total amount of 100 million rubles, also appeared here. and lawns - from one military unit, and for laying asphalt - from another. And on all the documents are visas of the Ministry, the head of which at that time was ... Yes, yes. He is…

So, regarding the situation with the refinement of the recently received scandalous fame of the elite recreation center "Zhitnoye". According to a number of mass media, high-ranking officials of the Ministry of Defense repeatedly came to this base, which belongs to a relative of Serdyukov. Even Dmitry Medvedev and Vladimir Putin even looked in there. And you see, no one who arrived at the base at the invitation of Anatoly Eduardovich came up with thoughts: Serdyukov, Puzikov (relative), “an oasis in the desert”, means of the Ministry of Defense - on the one hand; lack of funds for maintaining military camps in proper condition, lack of funds for the purchase of military equipment and other shortages - on the other hand ... Really, the Volga air of the steppe so clouded the mind that they started talking about this very “Zhitnoye” and everything else only after an admirer of diamonds and rarities by the name of Vasilyeva appeared on the horizon ... Or did thoughts still arise, and the air did not fog anything? ..

So how do you order the investigation to act in such a situation? It (the investigation) is well aware that Mr. Serdyukov, at least, is silent and loves, and he suddenly takes and speaks out what is not necessary to say in the current situation. And if you start talking, then you’ll have to forget about the tablets, the landscaping, and the diamonds with rhinestones ...

In general, it would seem, take the ruchenki under the white and choose a measure of restraint to determine the "special circumstances". However, while not taking and not elected. What does this mean? And it can only mean that wherever you throw - there is a wedge everywhere ... After all, the hypothetical arrest of the ex-minister himself, even with accommodation in apartments under home supervision, will cause a real avalanche. Changing the “signboard” from the witness to the accused will entail a new job, in which such names as Smetanova, Zakutaylo and others like them with tablets and tours will seem ridiculous.

But if the investigation declares that Serdyukov is an embezzler, then the investigators, together with representatives of the Accounts Chamber, will have to take it with both hands and for what he, along with his “arkharovtsy”, managed to reform during his time in the ministerial post. Of course, this will be a great event for modern Russia and, in particular, for President Putin. As they say, do not go to the grandmother - and it is so clear that Putin’s rating will go up. Does the president himself understand this? - understands perfectly. Is he ready for this step? But this is a big question. After all, in our country it has historically formed the opinion that there is an imperious team, which means that if one in this team has been "jogged", then everyone needs to be unraveled and sent to sausage ... As they say, there already with analysis - absolutely according to the law, absolutely transparent, extremely civilized - the matter would have gone. The main thing is to start. One of the teams - out and on the sausage, but others will jump more alive and in the right direction for the country and its citizens ...

They started with Kasyanov, but even then they didn’t dare to go to the end ... But in vain. Kasyanov now goes to the non-systemic opposition kochi, because all his work “for the good of” the homeland began to be revealed to the public only now ... Obviously it was too late to open up ...

But if you also launch Mr. Serdyukov’s free flight, who “didn’t know what he was doing,” then he may well then forget about the “team” and everything else. He will turn into Kasyanov-2, declare himself a zealous oppositionist, slandered by the authorities - then try and start a criminal case against him. You will get a tough opposition response and accusations of political repressions of those who disagree with the course ... They say the infringement of the freedom of speech, the violation of the right of the embezzler ... uh-uh ... of a person ... White tapes and so on.

So in fact, the proceedings on embezzlement in the Ministry of Defense is not just an anti-corruption case. This is a litmus test of how much a “harness” can transform, and how ready it is to get rid of those who ride at the expense of others. If ready, then the ex-leadership of the main military department may soon be caught by the breast, and if not, then again: Smetanova, Ryabykh, tablets, tours, bouquets of flowers ... In general, the curtain ...
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  1. Vanek
    +38
    31 January 2013 07: 11
    If he is not imprisoned, I will finally be disappointed in our legal system. Here.
    1. +23
      31 January 2013 07: 23
      Quote: Vanek
      If he is not imprisoned, I will finally be disappointed in our legal system. Here.

      laughing that is, 90 and 00 have not completely disappointed yet? laughing
      The level of modern investigators and prosecutors does not leave a single chance of accusation in an adversarial process, only if the guilty person confesses everything and asks himself to be imprisoned or stupidly poor and does not have money for a lawyer, if it weren’t for the courts to set up what many would dislike, that’s all, because the terms are ridiculous that it’s obvious that they are guilty and can’t prove it, and not because the businessman is cunning, but because the trail is stupid, because the cases are being investigated so that lawyers sometimes read them with tears of laughter, it seems that yesterday’s plumber tried to figure out the finances.
      1. +26
        31 January 2013 07: 38
        Yes, here the role is played not by the dullness of the tracker, but by the instruction to the tracker from above, and so he has to write nonsense in the investigative materials.
        1. +10
          31 January 2013 09: 27
          Quote: anip
          Yes, here the role is played not by the dullness of the tracker, but the indication to the tracker
          There are so many crushmen on the track that ... And it’ll be bad for anyone ... Serdyukov knows too much, and so they hold the investigation
        2. +12
          31 January 2013 12: 02
          Quote: anip
          R ”Р ° тут РёРіСЂР ° РµС ‚СЂРѕР» СЊ РЅРµ тупость СЃР »РµРґР ° РєР °, Р ° СѓРєР ° Р · Р ° РЅРёРµ СЃР» едР° РІСѓ

          One phrase "We are not in the 37th year" is already putting people into a stupor! They made it clear that "people need to be softer." And I just want to answer this sacramental phrase: "But in vain! Sometimes the 37th is useful"
          1. vovas
            +6
            31 January 2013 20: 58
            Quote: Egoza
            the bottom of the phrase "We are not 37th year" already introduces

            Where are the frames for the 37-year-old. That decide everything.
          2. +2
            1 February 2013 18: 41
            Egoza UA "... They made it clear that" people need to be softer ".
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            Everything is correct, only to the "SELECT" people, not to everyone! Here's what these gentlemen have done, can be safely regarded as a betrayal of the motherland! With all the ensuing consequences! And with them "babysitting", do not know what to do? But with another person, Colonel Kvachkov - they are sorted out in full !? He is charged with a "conspiracy" to overthrow the POWER!
            And ask this question: AND WHO NEEDS SUCH POWER? That's right - only to themselves, but not to the people of RUSSIA! So draw conclusions who is who!
      2. nickname 1 and 2
        +9
        31 January 2013 09: 12
        Quote: Kyrgyz
        lawyers sometimes read them with tears of laughter,


        Well, the lawyers today hurt WILL gave a lot! They have too much power!
        This is all from the fact that so far no one has bothered himself (those who are supposed to) measure out to everyone according to their rank!

        Perhaps it is very difficult!
        And in this case: the mice are naughty on the cat! Not only will he catch a good cat, he will not release a single rat from his territory. But such cats are rare.
        1. +2
          31 January 2013 12: 56
          Well, the lawyers today hurt WILL gave a lot! They have too much power!

          Yes, they didn’t give them anything, the investigator, if desired, can besiege any lawyer, especially in such difficult cases, just an order from the very top came, not really zealous ...
          1. 0
            2 February 2013 14: 20
            And where is the witness protection program? It’s about to begin: a car accident, a heart attack, an hunting / fishing accident ...
            Among other things, the country's leadership throws out another negative towards its own people and beyond the "hillock". And this is in the era of "information wars."
        2. ViPChe
          +1
          31 January 2013 15: 05
          Brotherly heart! It is better to be an independent and just such a lawyer who knows how to besiege an illiterate or unprepared to justify a prosecutor than a corrupt one and who knows nothing. Let the trackers work diligently! From prison and from the bag, as they say .... It’s bad that the good and the innocent are still being planted, and shit drives. But these are questions upstairs.
      3. +5
        31 January 2013 13: 56
        Do you think this sled just went there? due to a heightened sense of justice? lol He went there to earn money, to take bribes. They are paid and whom they plant. who should not be touched. You ask who is more afraid of people, bandits and crooks or the police? bully
    2. alkach555
      +6
      31 January 2013 07: 25
      Vanya, Serdyukov minus seemed to slap you. He does not want to sit and believes in the most humane Russian court lol
    3. +20
      31 January 2013 07: 29
      Vanek,
      If he is not imprisoned, I will finally be disappointed in our legal system. Here.
      Naive Vanyok. The Fuhrer threw another portion of gruel into the trough to our electoral cattle in the form of an investigation into corruption in the Ministry of Defense. This is so that this very cattle drowned in righteous anger and speculated a little on the topic: Will Serdyukov be imprisoned or not? So that this cattle does not ask the main question: Why is this all happening in our country? Why and how long will the "servants of the people" be chic at the expense of this very people? And when will all this chaos end? Or maybe pick up the rebar and go to break the ridges and the Fuhrer and his hop-company, until the country is completely plundered, sold and piled over the hill, until the law on the formation of Rosfinagentstvo LLC, which will manage all the money, is passed: and reserve, and saved, etc. etc.? It is time for the electoral cattle to stop sucking on those bones from the master's table that Putin and his lackeys accomplices throw at them and gain self-esteem as a citizen of a still great country.
      1. Vanek
        +15
        31 January 2013 07: 37
        Yes, it just infuriates most of all, what ....... Remember "Gangster Petersburg"? There Antibiotic rightly said: In Russia it is necessary to steal wagons, not bicycles. If you steal a bicycle, they'll put you in jail, and you steal a carriage ........

        My brother and I talked about the topic. He says he was sitting with us alone, but for what he was sitting behind a bag of potatoes! He stole a bag of potatoes from a neighbor - they gave three years. By parole in two came out.

        And here, kznm billions on [eq steal and can not do anything ..... Or do not want ...
        1. yak69
          +12
          31 January 2013 08: 38
          The sooner all citizens of our country become disillusioned with the judicial system, the system of executive, legislative, regional, municipal authorities, the sooner sobering will come. The sooner we learn to think about where we are going and who leads us there, and make responsible decisions for our fate and for our future. The earlier WE, it is WE, and not some uncle from the side, we will drop these power bugs and finally vote for the right choice. Finally, we will return to the main route, along which we all recently walked in the Soviet country!
          1. ViPChe
            +1
            31 January 2013 15: 11
            That's how it is, but the next five years, we sit in the bushes and ripen? smile And they, look, at the ROC they turned on the fifth gear, pulling to school ...
        2. +14
          31 January 2013 08: 46
          Quote: Vanek
          And here, kznm billions on [eq steal and can not do anything ..... Or do not want ...
          You know, it seems to me that we think too stubbornly, stole ... Well, they’ll find twenty cents, give 3 of the year with a delay and that’s all ... We must judge for the collapse of the army, the defense industry .. For the destruction of the military education and science system ...
          And this is a completely different time frame and a different attitude ... And the people will understand ...
          1. Vanek
            +3
            31 January 2013 09: 08
            Quote: domokl
            It is necessary to judge for the collapse of the army, the defense industry .. For the destruction of the military education and science ...
            And this is a completely different time frame and a different attitude ... And the people will understand ...


            Not an eyebrow, but an eye.

            good
          2. +3
            31 January 2013 09: 28
            Quote: domokl
            It is necessary to judge for the collapse of the army, the defense industry .. For the destruction of the military education and science ...
            And this is a completely different time frame and a different attitude ... And the people will understand ...
            Simple and to the point ... And there is no need to create the appearance of objectivity ... Just facts and consequences ... And a tower, with a replacement for life ..
          3. +5
            31 January 2013 12: 04
            Quote: domokl
            Р РЅР ° СЂРѕРґ РїРѕР№РјРµС ‚...

            He will not only understand, but also ardently, unanimously support! But precisely, people, not to be confused with a handful of "assholes"!
          4. ViPChe
            +3
            31 January 2013 15: 16
            Once in one of the discussions I tried to prove to some people that the army has a strict vertical and the guilt of the Supreme is undeniable. But ... I got 100 against myself for Putin. In principle, such a case cannot be, for this is a complete discrediting of the policy of the current leadership. So we are thinking now ... For 150 years already: "Who is to blame and what to do"? angry what
          5. +9
            31 January 2013 17: 21
            domokl,

            And this means repenting of your own mistakes or admitting that everything happened with the highest consent. It’s clear that Serdyukov was given full carte blanche for the sale of non-core military equipment in his opinion and the creation of a "new look" of the army according to mainly American patterns. The same Smetanova was already caught red-handed in real estate scams two years ago, they even started a case, but the case was ruined from above and she successfully continued her activities, changing only the name of her company to divert her eyes. The nuclear power plant was part of the close clan of the untouchables, but in November last year it was expelled from it in disgrace as a fallen angel from paradise for reasons that we will never know, but the crimes you listed are clearly not considered as the main reason for his expulsion. The question is not in the degree of punishment for Serdyukov, and not even in the crimes you listed, but in the very CLANIC SYSTEM OF POWER FORMATION. relying only on "their" trusted and trusted, regardless of their moral and business qualities, which will sooner or later turn into a sect if you do not change it and devour its creators.
          6. Irek
            +1
            31 January 2013 21: 14
            and as a result, the betrayal of the HOMELAND !!!
        3. Frigate
          +1
          31 January 2013 08: 51
          Quote: Vanek

          Yes, it just infuriates most of all, what ....... Remember "Gangster Petersburg"? There Antibiotic rightly said: In Russia it is necessary to steal wagons, not bicycles. If you steal a bicycle, they'll put you in jail, and you steal a carriage ........

          My brother and I talked about the topic. He says he was sitting with us alone, but for what he was sitting behind a bag of potatoes! He stole a bag of potatoes from a neighbor - they gave three years. By parole in two came out.

          And here, kznm billions on [eq steal and can not do anything ..... Or do not want ...

          Earlier it was necessary to be indignant. Laws are ineffective, you need to change a person's attitude to money and conscience in general. Forgive me, but for some reason I am sure that if you become an influential official, then you, having tasted an elite and luxurious life, "with DISNEYLANDS" and Penthouses on the islands and so on, will begin to think less and less about ordinary mortals of the WORLD each time this. I assumed, perhaps, that you will be the most respectable person.
          1. Vanek
            +16
            31 January 2013 09: 05
            Quote: Frigate
            Sorry, but for some reason I’m sure


            Do not believe it!

            He worked in an office with a trial period of three months. Salary for a test 20000, then from 70. The thing is that money spoils people (this is a fact). So, those who worked there, colleagues who did not take place, with such a salary, had such a shitty attitude towards me, as if ....... I don’t know, damn the generals of the world. I had to quit only because of the negativity that was in the office. I'm not so small. It’s better I will receive 20-25000, than to be in a society that is not pleasant for me, not looking at wages.

            For me, I’ll emphasize once again. FOR ME, money is more important, but the team! In which it will be purely humanly acceptable.

            Comrades, I have known each other since the age of three. Started to do business. They began to receive big money. AND EVERYTHING !!! Gone! And as a child, an ice rink, football, stadiums, and drunken parties (not without this). And now they are gone.

            Money spoils people !!! I do not want !
            1. Frigate
              +9
              31 January 2013 09: 12
              Quote: Vanek
              Money spoils people !!!

              I hope you were not offended, I assumed, since I did not watch you. Money is not something that spoils, but can become a stumbling block, I completely agree with you
              1. Vanek
                +2
                31 January 2013 09: 31
                Quote: Frigate
                I hope you are not offended


                DO NOT WAIT !!!!!!
            2. +3
              31 January 2013 23: 43
              Money spoils people !!! I do not want !

              They do not spoil them. They open them like a can opener. And if initially there it smells unpleasant.
              1. +1
                1 February 2013 05: 25
                Quote: Chen
                Money spoils people !!! I do not want !

                They do not spoil them. They open them like a can opener. And if initially there it smells unpleasant.

                It depends on what money is called.
                For a retired grandmother, 50 rubles. MONEY, on a packet of milk.
                And for Berezovsky and Abramovich — the millions spent on a brawl in a London court — not money.
          2. +6
            31 January 2013 09: 31
            Quote: Frigate
            I suggested that it is possible that you will be the most respectable person.
            It’s not money that spoils a person .. Money is simply a catalyst for the worst of all of us .. Yes, and then, only in the first generation .. and then they are just a means of life, nothing more ...
            1. +6
              31 January 2013 12: 09
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              1. +2
                31 January 2013 15: 23
                Quote: Egoza
                Moreover, if a person has an inner core, real decency, proper education, he and money will not be spoiled.

                So I’m tormented by the question, how do such cattle get to such posts? !!
                1. folds
                  +1
                  1 February 2013 00: 02
                  Duc it does not sink, but the steeper - the higher it pops up;)
                2. Misantrop
                  +1
                  1 February 2013 00: 33
                  Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
                  So I’m tormented by the question, how do such cattle get to such posts? !!

                  Very simple, they BUY these posts. Money, deeds, who has what. And then they compensate for their costs (and save up for the next power step) request
                  1. +2
                    1 February 2013 05: 28
                    Quote: Misantrop
                    Very simple, they BUY these posts. Money, deeds, who has what. And then they compensate their costs (and save up to the next power step) request

                    Hence the conclusion: All the loot goes to the top. TO THE TOP.
                3. vikontas56
                  +1
                  1 February 2013 02: 34
                  How do the cattle get to positions? And the scoundrel learns the scoundrel from the face! Then they kent together and pull the same closer, building their vertical in the image and likeness of the vertical of the owner. Serdyukov, from his "harem", built the same control system of the Ministry of Defense as the owner of the country ! Professionalism is not important - loyalty to the boss is important! Hence the results - excellent for oneself and lousy for the country! And in most of the republics of the Union the same thing - a collapsed economy that does not even reach the indicators of even 90, a poorer population and a snickering, corrupt incompetent "elite "who only knows how to steal and" saw "budget money or foreign loans! And showing talent only in blaming the past, when everyone felt like a man, and not a cattle, as it is now!
        4. nickname 1 and 2
          0
          31 January 2013 09: 39
          Vanek,
          Quote: Vanek
          Stole a bag of potatoes
          = PROGRESS!
          WHEN STALIN FOR 3 SPINS 10 YEARS RECEIVED!
          1. Vanek
            +2
            31 January 2013 10: 13
            Quote: nick 1 and 2
            FOR 3 SPINS 10 YEARS RECEIVED!


            Since my grandmother from 41st to 45th worked for "STALINETS" in the field, I agree with you. BUT! Granny said that 3 spikelets and 10 years were during the war and post-war years, about 2 years.

            If you take the entire period of Stalin’s rule then ...... well .... I don’t know, I don’t know.
        5. +7
          31 January 2013 09: 50
          Quote: Vanek
          And here, kznm billions on [eq steal and can not do anything ..... Or do not want to.

          No, Vanya. But this may not even be in the billions. Volodin correctly noted in the article that if Serdyukov speaks when they start to clamp him down, little will not seem to anyone including Putin, either to kill or not to touch that much. One thing is clear, you will not envy the trackers.
          1. Vanek
            +3
            31 January 2013 10: 15
            Quote: baltika-18
            One thing is clear, you will not envy the trackers.


            Either they will "fly" themselves, or orders.

            As the saying goes: - Or pan or disappeared.
          2. +3
            31 January 2013 12: 12
            Quote: baltika-18
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            Well, then, as our late Kravchenko (Minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs) - "two bullets in the head - suicide." Maybe the investigators are waiting for this?
            1. +2
              31 January 2013 13: 11
              Quote: Egoza
              Well, then, as our late Kravchenko (Minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs) - "two bullets in the head - suicide." Maybe the investigators are waiting for this?

              Who will understand them, Lena. The truth is, when the power will change. And the fact that this will happen in the near future, as by the way in Ukraine I am sure.
              1. vovas
                0
                31 January 2013 13: 23
                Quote: baltika-18
                he’s, Lena. The truth is when the power changes.

                But you are sure that this power will be replaced. In my opinion, it will last forever. As long as Russia’s bowels can still blow, after 12 years it’s again castled and so on to infinity.
          3. vovas
            +3
            31 January 2013 13: 18
            Quote: baltika-18
            and Putin too, including either killing or not touching that much. Yas

            Naive people. The skin will imprison him.? He is one of the team of Mr. PU. And no one will touch, Serdyukov is not a fool. He scribbled at everyone. If Wikkilips publishes.
      2. nickname 1 and 2
        +2
        31 January 2013 09: 36
        Combitor,

        Well, it comes from you! Do you know what they told us in the smoking room? Socialism is a good thing, it only went to fools! What to do? - we asked.
        And go to power and make it what you want!

        Quote: Kombitor
        Or he can pick up the armature and go break the ridges themselves

        = So what? How many times did they break the ridges? Has it gotten better for once?
        It's time to get smarter!

        While young, there is health - GO FOR THE SERVICE TO HUMANITY!

        AND THERE WILL LOOK WHAT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO DO IN THIS MURDER!
        and WHY - WONDERFUL? BECAUSE - HOW MUCH PEOPLE SO MUCH OPINIONS!
        SMART TO THE TABLE, AND SITTED AT THE TABLE - THE SAME FOUL AS THE OTHERS!
        MAYBE YOU - A GENIUS SLEEPS!
      3. +8
        31 January 2013 10: 34
        Combitor
        Quote: Kombitor
        until they adopted the law on the formation of LLC "Rosfinagentstvo", which will manage all the money: both reserve and saved, and so on. etc.?
        Bravo! We are fed with news on Syria, Egypt, Libya, various talk shows, the endless soap opera with Serdyukov and Co. ... And the essence of this is
        Quote: Kombitor
        This is so that this very cattle would choke in righteous anger and think a little on the topic
        That's right.
        And about the most important laws, such as "Rosfinagentstvo", almost (!) Silence. Although, now, please - rage, be indignant - the law has been passed (well, almost adopted wink ), dragged him quickly. Here is what Dmitrieva says about this:
        "State Duma deputy from the" Fair Russia "party Oksana Dmitrieva harshly criticized the draft law on the creation of the Rosfinagentstvo adopted by the State Administration in the first reading. According to Dmitrieva, the creation of this structure is tantamount to" stealing the treasury. "
        In fact, we are talking about transferring the funds of the reserve fund, the assets of the state debt to the management of a commercial structure - OJSC Rosfinagentstvo. And now it is clear why Mr. Kudrin and the financial bloc of the government so persistently convinced us all that it is necessary to malnourish, under-treat, under-finance education, under-build roads, under-repair housing, and invest all the money in the Reserve Fund. <...> They said that if we spend it all, it will be a Dutch disease. But this is actually quite a Russian disease, which is called "stealing the treasury" or "taking the cash", - said Dmitrieva, speaking at a meeting of the State Duma.
        According to Dmitrieva, the essence of this bill is to transfer the constitutional powers of the government and the Central Bank outsourcing. “We have already passed this on the experience of the Ministry of Defense, only there it was 4 billion, not more than 4 trillion, and the ventilation schemes could at least be found and felt. And then virtual money and virtual shares go along the chain from a joint-stock company to others joint-stock companies, then they invest in financial agencies, and they pass them on even further - and, as they say, look for the wind in the field, "said the deputy."
        rosbalt.ru
        So plus you Combitor. Plus for realistic vision hi
        1. +3
          31 January 2013 15: 36
          ZAM.2, I read in "Arguments of the week" about this JSC. Thanks to O. Dmitrieva for calling things by their proper names. Why do we, ordinary people who do not hold government posts and are not endowed with high state powers, understand the essence of what is happening in the country and see where this is all leading. When I read about this "Rosfinagentstvo", I immediately realized that an office was being organized for the privatization of public money. Dmitrieva's statement only confirmed my opinion. Why are we ordinary people immediately understood the entire criminal essence of all the "reforms" carried out in the country. Be it the "reforms" of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, Ministry of Defense, education, health care, pension provision and much, much more. We see and understand all this, but the authorities, it turns out, do not see this and do not understand. The Duma adopts thieves' and criminal laws, the president signs them, the government implements them, the Federation Council will not say a single word against it either. But these are the ones who must fulfill our will. To do this, they are hired by the Russian people in the form of elections for a certain period of time. But our servants of the people do everything to our detriment, they rob us, plunge us into poverty, endanger our lives and destroy the security of our state. It means that these "servants" must be got rid of. They do not want it in an amicable way. Let's talk badly. And with this LLC "Rosfinagentstvo" will be something like this: the office will take control of all the money. Then this money will circulate in various foreign accounts, naturally bringing fabulous profits to the management of the office, the main Russian Fuhrer and his organized criminal group. Then the money will start to disappear. The authorities will give birth to a couple of corruption scandals. Again, someone will be put under house arrest, someone will die in a pre-trial detention center, someone will be thrown over the hill. But money bye. Everything will be like with the Ministry of Defense. At first, they also clapped to Serdyukov. And most importantly, in spite of the fact that the government headed by Putin will be smeared in the next portion of Mr.
      4. +1
        31 January 2013 13: 13
        Quote: Kombitor
        Or he can pick up the armature and go on their own to break the ridges and the Führer and his hop companies until they completely looted the country, sold it and dumped it over a hill

        Hands itch - it’s understandable. But what will it lead to? To the next division of the grabbed earlier?
      5. ViPChe
        +1
        31 January 2013 15: 33
        But the point is that there are no real promoters and competent organizers of the protest movement, but there are miserable, feeding from someone's hand, destroyers of the system-organizers of "color" revolutions. The idea is there, but the performers have not yet been born, or they are still sleeping. The easiest way to break up is by giving reinforcement along the ridge smile ... And then, again, the section of the feeder by amateurs and "cooks"? Somehow this has already passed. I'm tired of it. I say this, because my time has already passed and my age is too. How to induce the young not to pogroms, but to create something new? I am sure that without the help of the Russian Orthodox Church this is possible, I am absolutely sure of it!
      6. Olaf555
        0
        3 February 2013 08: 55
        That's right! But who will go to the master with fittings in their hands? Such social networks, including our Military Review, were created by smart uncles in order for the trash (all of us to use such Internet resources) to "blow off steam" of social tension, knocking on the computer keyboard and never did not really start banging on the heads and other soft spots of these hefty smart guys. Here are the things! Here we break the spears (or rather the keyboard) between ourselves, but things are still there - it will be there until we remember and realize ourselves as descendants of the conduct. book Vladimir Kievsky, Prince Dmitry Donskoy, teacher Sergius of Radonezh, Kosma Minin, Dmitry Pozharsky, pr. Grigory Potemkin and many, many who did not spare themselves and their efforts to create what later began to bear the name of Great Russia. Sorry for the pathos. It got sick, however ... crying It is unbearably bitter for our country, for the people now inhabiting it, for spiritual vacuums in relations between people of the same culture, which was formed not today, and not even yesterday ... Alas, but without the restoration of the latter, it makes no sense to think about the first ... IMHO.
    4. +3
      31 January 2013 07: 40
      Quote: Vanek
      If he is not imprisoned, I will finally be disappointed in our legal system. Here.

      Most likely, you will have to be disappointed if before that there was still some kind of faith.
    5. KamikadZzzE1959
      +6
      31 January 2013 08: 21
      But who will plant him - he’s a monument
    6. +3
      31 January 2013 08: 42
      Quote: Vanek
      If he is not imprisoned, I will finally be disappointed in our legal system. In
      They will plant, but they’ll get close to it so as not to mess up the whole structure ... This is the upper echelon, and there everyone is tied ...
      1. predator.3
        0
        31 January 2013 10: 31
        From the materials carried out by the Main Military Investigation Directorate (GVSU) of the TFR, a pre-investigation audit of Anatoly Serdyukov's activities as Minister of Defense, it follows that he spent almost the entire summer of 2011 at the elite closed recreation center Zhitnoye, located in the Volga delta and owned by the husband of Mr. Serdyukov to Valery Puzikov. The minister fished, hunted and simply relaxed with friends in a luxurious three-story cottage on the territory of Zhitnoye, which was permanently reserved for him, thanks to which the entire facility received the unofficial name of Serdyukovskaya Dacha on the sidelines of the defense department. In August 2011, at the invitation of the owner, Dmitry Medvedev and Vladimir Putin, then the president and prime minister of Russia, visited the "dacha". As reported then, eminent guests caught zander on a spinning, of which the local chef made fish cakes.
        Read more: http://www.kommersant.ru/doc-y/2114680


        Comments are superfluous!
      2. Alejandro
        +2
        31 January 2013 12: 35
        Quote: domokl
        They will plant it, but are selected to it in such a way as not to stir up the whole structure ...
        Yeah, they will. Chubais is not bad at public money and Luzhkov sat in Europe not bad, although there was no less noise.
        Quote: domokl
        This is the upper echelon, and there everyone is tied ...
        And this is the point.
    7. +4
      31 January 2013 09: 19
      There is still a conditional sentence in Russian justice. There is experience in such a punishment of high-ranking bureaucrats! If you didn’t arrest the sch, then you can safely say that they will get off 5-6 for years conditionally!
      1. predator.3
        +6
        31 January 2013 10: 36
        From the materials carried out by the Main Military Investigation Directorate (GVSU) of the TFR, a pre-investigation audit of Anatoly Serdyukov's activities as Minister of Defense, it follows that he spent almost the entire summer of 2011 at the elite closed recreation center Zhitnoye, located in the Volga delta and owned by the husband of Mr. Serdyukov to Valery Puzikov. The minister fished, hunted and simply relaxed with friends in a luxurious three-story cottage on the territory of Zhitnoye, which was permanently reserved for him, thanks to which the entire facility received the unofficial name of Serdyukovskaya Dacha on the sidelines of the defense department. In August 2011, at the invitation of the owner, Dmitry Medvedev and Vladimir Putin, then the president and prime minister of Russia, visited the "dacha". As reported then, eminent guests caught zander on a spinning, of which the local chef made fish cakes.
        Read more: http://www.kommersant.ru/doc-y/2114680


        Comments are superfluous!
        1. wax
          -1
          31 January 2013 13: 56
          Putin looked both Medvedev and Serdyukov in kind. We will wait for a decision on both. Not easy, but necessary. Or didn’t have to come back.
    8. YARY
      +7
      31 January 2013 09: 23
      I join VANKA
      1. YARY
        +9
        31 January 2013 09: 26
        Only the highest social protection measure will stop the bacchanalia of bribery in RUSSIA
        1. +2
          31 January 2013 13: 15
          Quote: Ardent
          Only the highest social protection measure will stop the bacchanalia of bribery in RUSSIA

          It’s nice to know that I don’t think so alone. You in your repertoire, constancy is a sign of mastery.
        2. vovas
          +4
          31 January 2013 13: 30
          Quote: Ardent
          social protection measure will stop bacchanalia of bribery in RUSSIA

          Shooters will start simple, vanes, and these are already overseas. Then you need to shoot from this. To London Far .. And here is someone who will let you swing your DREAMS with your gun DREAMS ONLY DREAMS.
          1. iulai
            +1
            1 February 2013 06: 46
            many, many are not on this board.
      2. Vanek
        0
        31 January 2013 09: 33
        Quote: Ardent
        I join VANKA


        Andrei hi
    9. borisst64
      +4
      31 January 2013 09: 24
      Ukraine ex-prime minister Tymoshenko planted, we must take an example.
      1. 755962
        +1
        31 January 2013 13: 06
        An "aviation" episode may appear in Serdyukov's "dacha business" - because of special flights, Chkalovsky airfield was searched

        The investigation of the criminal case on the construction, at the expense of the Ministry of Defense, of a road to the Zhitnoye recreation center in the Volga delta, in which ex-minister Anatoly Serdyukov is considered a potential defendant, may be replenished with a new episode. According to some reports, in the construction of the infrastructure of a commercial facility, not only budget funds, but also aviation equipment and an airfield could be used.


        http://www.newsru.com/russia/31jan2013/gitnoe.html

        SK opened a new case of theft in the Ministry of Defense

        The Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation opened a new criminal case on the theft of funds from the Ministry of Defense. This time, law enforcement agencies have claims against the Vladivostok branch of the infamous Slavyanka company, which was engaged in the maintenance and repair of military towns.


        http://www.infox.ru/accident/crime/2013/01/31/SK_vozbudil_novoye_d.phtml

        And such messages almost every day ....
      2. vovas
        +1
        31 January 2013 13: 33
        Quote: borisst64
        and former Prime Minister Tymoshenko planted, we must take an example.

        Ukraine is not Russia. There are no elections and absentee ballots. The elections are relatively honest. And there is no magician churov.
      3. +3
        31 January 2013 13: 47
        Quote: borisst64
        ex-prime minister Tymoshenko planted, we must take an example.

        The key word "ex", they planted when the whole office had left, but they planted it not for what followed, but so that the whole nest would not be stirred up, and they are still twisting, justifying themselves, so that. hi
      4. +1
        1 February 2013 05: 18
        Quote: borisst64
        Ukraine ex-prime minister Tymoshenko planted, we must take an example.

        And for that, we have Vasiliev under arrest, albeit at home. laughing
    10. +2
      31 January 2013 12: 48
      If he is not imprisoned, I will finally be disappointed in our legal system.

      If they put him in, he will open his mouth, so that either the medical device in the form of a drunk Kamaz driver or a jump from the window of the 20th floor, he will not be able to shoot himself, not that contingent, unless they will help ... Either admit that he did not know anything, and if knew, then reported to the competent authorities, but they did not do anything in response to his signals ...
    11. +1
      31 January 2013 13: 03
      Have they planted at least one of the top? It’s naive to hope that they’ll plant
    12. +1
      1 February 2013 06: 18
      Ivan Ivanovich, the legal system has nothing to do with it, here the political will of the ruling class. Disappoint in another.
    13. +1
      1 February 2013 19: 55
      Most likely they will not go to jail. There was a rumor among people close to the bosses' asses that all the cheese-boron had flared up due to the fact that Serdyukov felt "omnipotent and omnipotent" and left his little wife for Vasilyeva. And who is Serdyukov's wife? Zubkov's daughter! So Zubkov asked to sort it out. They began to figure it out, but they took up their heads from what was happening in the Ministry of Defense. By the way, what is the normal version.
  2. +12
    31 January 2013 07: 15
    Grandfather Stalin would not have understood such power throwing at all .. judge not to judge .. Shot !!! good
    1. +8
      31 January 2013 07: 22
      Quote: ruton

      Grandfather Stalin would not have understood such power throwings at all .. judge not judge

      Well, that means many in business. Serdyukov is only one pawn on the chessboard, but there are others!
    2. +3
      31 January 2013 08: 47
      Quote: ruton
      Grandfather Stalin would not have understood such power throwing at all .. judge not to judge .. Shot !!!
      Here is a solution would be for many just a heavenly gift .. Shoot and all, ends in the water ... We found one scapegoat, the rest lurked for a while, and then a new one ...
      1. dualnik
        +3
        31 January 2013 10: 49
        The fish rots from the head ... We have rot at the top 80 percent
    3. +2
      31 January 2013 10: 41
      Quote: ruton
      Grandfather Stalin would not have understood such power throwing at all .. judge not to judge .. Shot !!!

      No, at first there would be a consequence, on which the stool choked with the desire to speak, would have laid everything and everyone. Then, YES the whole identified chain, regardless of faces, would go under execution. And this CORRECTLY !
  3. Pit
    Pit
    +1
    31 January 2013 07: 24
    Today mornings in the mailing list read: http://newsland.com/news/detail/id/1116068/
    1. +5
      31 January 2013 07: 43
      Someone else doubts that Serdyukov will remain a witness and a poor, naive good guy who was deceived and set up by evil and bad people.
      But in general, estimate, Serdyukov may still file a lawsuit for slandering him about the construction of the road, because there is no road. laughing
  4. +1
    31 January 2013 07: 36
    It looks like everything is like a "duck" would have attached at least photos of this road. And if, nevertheless, a case was initiated, then this is the destruction of evidence.
  5. +11
    31 January 2013 07: 36
    Author-declares himself a zealous oppositionist, slandered by the authorities, and this photo will grow another brazen unscrupulous erysipelas:
    and ultimately:
    1. +4
      31 January 2013 09: 17
      But I wonder who on the top dimotator Russian !? just curious!
      1. dim
        dim
        +1
        31 January 2013 09: 19
        all)))))))))))))) as some personalities say Russian is a collective image from centuries ago (((((
      2. predator.3
        0
        31 January 2013 10: 21
        Baron, there are some Russian-speaking women ... there!
      3. predator.3
        +4
        31 January 2013 10: 25
        Quote: Baron Wrangel
        But I wonder who on the top dimotator Russian !? just curious!


        Baron, there are some Russian-speaking women ... there!
    2. +4
      31 January 2013 10: 33
      what is London like !? - to cut taiga with fret saws !!!!! laughing
  6. Mikado
    +4
    31 January 2013 07: 42
    "This is a strange consequence ... Electoral ..."

    Isn't it clear that if Serdyukov is made accused of embezzlement, then the question will immediately become who put this one in the minister’s chair and Vova won’t just smirk and say “some billions? I don’t know anything”.
    1. +5
      31 January 2013 07: 47
      “What happened to the billions?”
      - They sailed away ... laughing
      1. +3
        31 January 2013 10: 31
        Quote: anip
        “What happened to the billions?”
        - They sailed away ... laughing

        I would say in the galleys, because
        as our chapters stated that "he was a good minister" ...
  7. +8
    31 January 2013 08: 07
    and all things. but even it seems to me that this one will leave .... from retaliation.
    1. vovas
      0
      31 January 2013 13: 36
      Quote: rpek32
      it seems to me that this one will leave .... from retaliation

      It will go away from retaliation, it will go away with a guarantee.

















      will leave with a guarantee.
  8. CCA
    CCA
    +3
    31 January 2013 08: 32
    ТSo, in fact, the theft proceedings in the Ministry of Defense are not just anti-corruption cases. This is a litmus test.
    But this is precisely the essence of the matter ... Such cases, and such information just do not emerge from the sphere of power ... And it should be noted that the opposition to the disclosure of these facts has no business, and indeed in general, mind you - it keeps mum, not spreading too much (as the "opposition" loves it) ... And therefore, let's look at the further development of events ...
  9. bap063
    +3
    31 January 2013 08: 35
    Not so simple? all the more understanding of the inheritance received by the people of the elected president, we do not exclude the possibility that they may not yet be allowed to touch some personalities from the environment, and do not doubt that the family has its black sheep But there is confidence that slowly everything will fall into place and some forces will ultimately be convinced and defeated, just as the first one and a half period of work was carried out to eliminate the Yeltsin family (the latter was pushed back by notorious Mr. Voloshin?)
    Isn't everything just up there? But the steps to advance the president are visible and the gikto cannot refute it!
    No one doubts this, believes and supports the president in his hard work! The president! Russia and its people are with you! Victory will be ours!
    1. armorboy1
      +4
      31 January 2013 11: 59
      It is unforgettable that Putin did not become a presenter himself, but was brought about by his Yeltsin circle. He cannot arbitrarily make a decision; a gang of gray cardinals occupies a position. Here’s the wretched Dimka, why he’s wretched, because nothing has an effect, these are the people behind which there is a group of influential people. and even if Volodya wants to implement a righteous decision, they will immediately compromise him. They simply don’t put people in top positions in the Russian Federation, or even measures, at first pound dirt is added to the folder, then they are allowed to steer or to the polls.
      The contraceptive Kasyanov under Yolkin, as a minister for kickbacks, signed quotas for catching crabs and other creatures in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk. Everything was openly spoken on TV in the 90s, and why ... nikuya. This creature again climbs the same place again wants to fall to the feeder.
      The complete lack of enforcement of laws, the lack of social justice, anti-people politics. This is HRC!
      I recall at least one decision or action to improve the life of Russians. Only everything about the rising gasoline and utilities.
      And no news about the decline, only growth. Z / p as it was 10 rubles since 000, in the regions, it remained ... HRC comrades
      1. +1
        31 January 2013 14: 16
        Good day to all!
        Dear broneboy1. Much is correctly noticed (I agree with you), but about the RFP, they really went too far!
        About what 10t.r. in the REGION in 2000, you say ??? 7t.r. was ZP at the fin. Director of the holding in which I worked. And it was VERY much !. And 3 tr economists of financial management !!! It was VERY good too!
        When they are so bent over in the small, then you unwittingly treat everything else with caution!
        Since then, the level of CONSUMER life has risen very high in our country. But with the rest, unfortunately. .... some questions .....
        And about the punishment of the former Minister. I believe that if he is guilty (and most likely - AS MUCH!), Then the punishment must be serious! But what? Necessarily - no colonies or joint isolation with other persons. Still, the person held such a post and knows a lot that relates to the signature stamp of the Soviet secret, military secret ...
        1. armorboy1
          +1
          31 January 2013 19: 26
          Thanks for the comment. I could be wrong for a year or two. In 2001-2002, I had a salary of about 6000 rubles. And far from fin. director. shift work at the enterprise. In 2003, the seller I received a consultant 7500r. s / n
          You obviously confuse something. Now I am looking at offers. In our city, in a large construction company, a vacancy is a seller of real estate 10 rubles !!!! Everything revolves around dozens! I don’t know how in Moscow. In the regions, people work for food fare and rent.
          1. +1
            31 January 2013 20: 46
            Well, how can I tell you about Moscow. Probably like the proverb "It's good there - where we are not." In Moscow, too, not everything is in chocolate as it seems from the regions. The journey is expensive (crazy). The products are monstrous (you go into their stores and you immediately understand why the program "Habitat" and "Test purchase" is needed). Housing is expensive (very). Almost all services are (very) expensive (the same parking lot). etc. Yes, salary is higher there, but almost as much spent as in the region. Now, if you work there, but live in another place - then yes! But this is the way of gastronomy.
            And on the account of the year 2000: as vaf says here - without tricks and praises, but still.
            1998 - default (with autumn in the yard). At different jobs - zp are different, but I thought that be an income of 1,5 tr I'll be in chocolate. In 2000-2001 he was lucky to get the job that I wrote and the income from the management staff was 3 tr. Further in 2001-2002. earned in the bank 4,5t.r. in the best case (if without deprivation of the premium). In 2003-2004 - 12-15 thousand rubles Moreover, the biggest progress was after the arrival of GDP. For which, after his first term, the people strongly supported him. Because with EBN, the dynamics were largely negative. In terms of performance, everything was kept only due to the fact that there was still the legacy of the USSR. Which was gradually destroyed or seized. Remember. So that in many ways he is a great fellow! Even compare the cars - which were in the year 2000 and which and how many now!
            1. armorboy1
              0
              1 February 2013 12: 59
              Quote: Eugene
              Remember. So that in many ways he is a great fellow! Even compare the cars - which were in the year 2000 and which and how many now!


              Yes, what’s true is true, in 1997 under Yeltsin, I had a Pentium-2, a hard drive of only 3 GB. and a modem with a speed of 56 kb / s.
              Now, of course, it’s better under Putin, I have a laptop (!) Samsung, memory like 500GB, and the Internet with 10 Mbps !!!
            2. 0
              3 February 2013 07: 02
              In Moscow, one big plus is the alternative if the boss is sick of it.
          2. +1
            3 February 2013 07: 00
            The wife got a job in the military registration and enlistment office, because the child is small, the labor code must be observed - 8tyr. salary. + plus bonuses and allowances. 14 sp. coming out. 10 km. From Moscow. In 8 thousand tax too, the truth is about bonuses, they didn’t say anything during employment ... By the way, they promised to issue the January s / n in March, not earlier. Hmmm ... Koda asked how much is legal, they said 50% of the salary premium can turn into 10.
    2. ViPChe
      +1
      31 January 2013 15: 48
      Freshly a tradition. but hard to believe! At the helm and sails the same people for a long time. Indigenous changes are few. And do not tear the soul too much. We will get a piece from the master's table, such as an increase in pensions and salaries for the military, everything will be. But .... dosed and at a strictly defined time — when the fried rooster appears. That is their whole policy.
  10. +3
    31 January 2013 08: 49
    Serdyukov’s son-in-law (husband of the sister) and the documents for the construction of an 8 km road with bridges and the purchase of land totaling 100 million rubles showed up here,
    I heard today on the radio, they’ve already dug that road. A double term must be given for such matters, at first they spent budget money, and now they also destroyed the road.
  11. konnd
    0
    31 January 2013 08: 50
    Wait and see. But it seems to me that this parasite will jump off, or health will suddenly shake. And to death. Just in case. That would not rattle too much.
  12. zambo
    +2
    31 January 2013 08: 53
    Still, our ancestors were very wise: "G ... but does not drown"
    1. +2
      1 February 2013 00: 01
      Still, our ancestors were very wise: "G ... but does not drown"

      The Teutons believed their ancestors and became a pig .....
  13. SEM
    SEM
    +3
    31 January 2013 09: 36
    I want to assume-what interestingly did the court award for such cases, say in a super democratic USA ??? probably an electric chair, or maybe 2-3 life terms, and maybe pat on the head and reward ???
    1. ViPChe
      +1
      31 January 2013 15: 52
      Americans must lick his heels for what he has done! negative
      1. AlexW
        +2
        1 February 2013 06: 24
        So they called him the best minister of defense of Russia. If the enemy praises, then ....
  14. 0
    31 January 2013 09: 45
    Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ... Selling creatures! Only mass shootings will save this country!
  15. +3
    31 January 2013 09: 48
    It’s just that they’ll plunder from the authorities, and as they press the shool they go to the opposition, before, it was simpler to consume and everything, all garbage and garbage are collected in the capital
  16. +4
    31 January 2013 10: 04
    The main article is the collapse of the country's defense, and then theft. The Americans and some "our" experts praise his "reforms". He wanted everything the best, but it turned out as always. The result is obvious.
  17. recruit
    0
    31 January 2013 10: 09
    If they do not build it, they will lose their entire rating.
    1. 0
      31 January 2013 16: 03
      I have a feeling that they lie on our rating with you
  18. +7
    31 January 2013 10: 21
    quote-This is some strange consequence ... Selective... Yes, so selective that can't figure it out and what should he (the investigation) do with respect to the key figure of all this grandiose scandal - Anatoly Eduardovich Serdyukov. At first, it seemed, they detached him as witnesses, who, being on the post of Minister of War, without delving into the essence of the documents, drove them with a fountain pen. Then, apparently, they realized that such a concept as “witness Serdyukov” could cause a clearly uncontrolled reaction of the masses, and began to think how to gain “access to the body” after our chapters stated that “he was a good minister” ...

    Alexey hi good drinks , I specially highlighted these your phrases, I will write why:
    1. The authorities themselves did not really foresee scope and volume theft.
    2. Power, ended up in perplexity.
    3.Power clear и intelligible does not express a position on this issue.
    4. Power, with the phrase "it was a good minister." to a dead end.
    5.Power doesn't know how to level current situation.
    6. This situation once again proves that about of independence there can be no consequence.
    Was created stalemate situation,when the authorities do not know what to do, the investigation wants (or does not want what ) bring the matter to the end but cannot, and the country is waiting for how this whole story will end!
    1. +3
      31 January 2013 10: 46
      To Anatoly Serdyukov come from the air
      Searches carried out in Chkalov Avia
      As it became known to Kommersant, in the near future in the high-profile case of abuses in the improvement of the residence of the son-in-law of the former Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov, a new episode may appear related to the Chkalov Avia airfield service company. According to some information, the company organized the delivery of VIP-persons and military-builders to the commercial facility at the state expense. Searches were carried out in the offices of Chkalov Avia and the head of the company was questioned.

      http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2116622
      ...
    2. ViPChe
      0
      31 January 2013 15: 54
      Based on the logic of these six points, we conclude: why the hell are we such a confused and stupid power? stop
    3. AlexW
      +1
      1 February 2013 06: 34
      Serdyukov "did not take the initiative" and (or) behaved not at all respectfully, he saves a compass for the farmers, climbs up to the top ... Father-in-law, Zubkov, dragged his son-in-law along the quarry ladder, but Taburetnkin went too far, started a harem, the benefactor is nothing puts. The wife was offended, complained to dad. So they are rushing about - they should be punished approximately, so that they themselves do not get into trouble, do not substitute the godfathers. Tolik, an "effective manager", must have insured himself with copromat. Spiders in a jar - side view ... am
  19. anchonsha
    +3
    31 January 2013 10: 49
    It seems that all and all the visitors of the site have already expressed everything ... And still it is necessary to add that if Tabouretkin is removed from responsibility, this power will lose many supporters, even something more. Yes, and just to reason humanly, and who then should ordinary people in Russia believe in, how to live on, what to believe and what?
    1. ViPChe
      0
      31 January 2013 15: 56
      Brothers! By the day of the next real and fair election, many of us will be gone, we won’t wait tongue
      1. AlexW
        +1
        1 February 2013 06: 40
        One of the very first steps to build a "vertical" was the elimination of the "turnout threshold" - as long as the electorate does not come, at least one person, the elections took place.
  20. 0
    31 January 2013 11: 17
    Test check
  21. greenx2
    0
    31 January 2013 11: 17
    test check
  22. Avenger711
    +1
    31 January 2013 11: 41
    It’s problematic to plant a minister in any country, but I hope we’ll finally go for it.
  23. Nechai
    +3
    31 January 2013 11: 54
    The reason for the difference in the current situation of Smetanova is the arrest, no matter what, and Vasilyeva - HOME conditional arrest, again, no matter what, ACCESSORIES to different CLASSES and nothing more. Smetanova is a servant, and Vasilyeva is mistress.
    Quote: Mikado
    if Serdyukov is made accused of embezzlement, then the question will immediately become who put such a person in the minister's chair and Vova will not be so easy to dismiss him with a smirk and the words “some billions? I don’t know anything”.

    Oh yeah! Stuck in full. Plant Nizya-I !!! But do not put it - you’ll personally sign a sentence ...
    And the MO machine is still in many ways continuing to create in the same mode. In the village of Roshchinsky (formerly the garrison of Chernorechye), pensioners receive notifications from the "native" ministry about the release of the occupied housing within 2 months. The situation is tense to such an extent that yesterday Lukin came to the garrison to calm things down and promised to bring the promblame to the Supreme Command ...
    1. ViPChe
      0
      31 January 2013 16: 05
      The situation is so tense that Lukin came to the garrison yesterday to pacify and vowed to bring the issue to the Supreme High Command ...

      Quote: bap063
      No one doubts this, believes and supports the president in his hard work! The president! Russia and its people are with you! Victory will be ours!

      This is just the topic!
  24. +3
    31 January 2013 12: 06
    It’s interesting - why doesn’t anyone voice the idea that they don’t touch the heart just because if he can tell a lot of interesting things? About medveputa for example? Putin seems to somehow move - the army has begun to raise it (but the pace is disappointing), but in fact nothing has changed - corruption, a large sector of the commodity economy, the backward development of mechanical engineering .... and they say the richest man in Europe has pushed all I’m relatives wherever you can ... Here’s such a cute Putin sitting in the office - he’s catching a fish on a dacha with a heart and doesn’t know that it’s almost not cracking from his work. Something seems to me that they are connected not just by a power team ... but some more .... Although I may be mistaken - they have a declaration of income - they are poor with such work and such a relatively small job as a relative, and I here also slander
    1. +2
      31 January 2013 12: 36
      And to me, here, it is very interesting how this spicy incident with Seryukov is covered by the foreign media. Or at least in the CIS countries? What, what is there? "Oh, again these Russians are up to something!" or are they just openly laughing and mockingly rubbing their hands?
  25. +2
    31 January 2013 12: 30
    Quote: broneboy1
    even if Volodya wants to implement a righteous decision, they will immediately compromise him


    Nope, it won’t work out. They just won’t believe it. Our insight takes place exclusively after removal from office or in connection with the death of the former idol. National Feature. Alas.
    1. armorboy1
      +3
      31 January 2013 12: 43
      If Medvedev's movie has already been filmed, about his "criminal without action" in relation to the situation in Libya, then why not about Uncle Putya? And not from the orange mouthpiece of the State Department. And the same Rogozin or the general of the special services will speak, and provide the facts that the GDP eats children ...
      1. vovas
        +3
        31 January 2013 13: 42
        Quote: broneboy1
        on Medvedev already ordered film was removed, about his "criminal without action" in relation to the situation in Liv

        Serdyukov. The next bear in line for retirement.
      2. +3
        31 January 2013 14: 08
        armorboy1,
        Rogozin already once tried to go along this path, did not ride, he will not step on it anymore.
        Here on the site someone suggested that the top is 89% smeared, but no, -all grabbing, Putin publicly confirmed this, saying that there’s no one to plant, there will be nobody to work with.
        1. +1
          31 January 2013 14: 20
          All is correct. Little Little Vovochka holds on a hook.
          1. ViPChe
            +1
            31 January 2013 16: 11
            Vasya, let's think: why do he need these hooks? Really for self-satisfaction? Or in order to know the full picture? Or for distribution to friends and enemies? Ivanov, though he honestly admitted that he knew about the thefts in Roscosmos, but he was afraid to frighten the thieves. Putin does not admit to anything ... Hmmm ... He’s not the first term in power, it’s time to learn how to distinguish grain. Or am I saying something wrong? what
  26. +1
    31 January 2013 14: 19
    Until the end of the investigation will be carried out in only one case: the United States and the Britons will not make concessions.
  27. ded_73
    0
    31 January 2013 14: 50
    Who cares, take a look - http://ord-02.com/rasledovaniya/item/22146-sled-serdyukova-v-ubiystve-deda-hasan
    a. Curious.
  28. Fortnite
    +1
    31 January 2013 15: 26
    Quote: Understudy
    Our insight takes place exclusively after removal from office

    Alas, it will not work ... And there is an appropriate decree on this - on guarantees ...
    Do what you want - take a walk, flaw!
  29. +2
    31 January 2013 17: 20
    An old Russian proverb - "A raven will not peck out a raven's eyes"
  30. Drappier
    0
    31 January 2013 18: 27
    How much remorse and regret in these eyes laughing and in the hall of everything you need, finger nervously suck .....
    1. vovas
      0
      31 January 2013 21: 12
      Quote: Drapper
      and in the hall everything is necessary, the finger nervously suck ...

      What did she do with Serdyukov. Her main job at the Moscow Defense Ministry was ,, to suck ,, In the meantime, the opposite is true.
  31. +1
    31 January 2013 23: 54
    Quote: Apollon
    1. The authorities themselves did not really foresee the scope and volume of theft.
    2. Power, was at a loss.
    3. The authorities do not express a clear and distinct position on this issue.
    4. Power, with the phrase "it was a good minister". Stumped the investigation.
    5. The authorities do not know how to level the situation.
    6. This situation proves once again that there can be no question of the independence of the investigation.


    In the Kremlin, a regiment of analysts !!!!! Do you really think that we, possessing bits of information, know more than they do ???
    All foresaw;
    everything is well planned;
    everything goes according to plan;
    "the people are a flock of sheep" - the Kremlin still thinks so.
    evidence of the independence of the investigation is not necessary. We can only BELIEVE in this. smile

    This is another PZHIK- descent of steam. People trend, reduce unnecessary stress.
  32. 0
    1 February 2013 00: 44
    Shoot-and do not even frown, deserved!
  33. +3
    1 February 2013 01: 07
    Do not forget, Serdyukov is the son-in-law of the permanent Deputy Prime Minister Zubkov, the actual executive director of Russia. While everything was fine in the family, no matter what Taburetkin did, they did not touch. But then he offended his daughter, went to Vasilyeva, here in the heat of the moment the father said "Fas". It started spinning .... Only now they do not know what to do next - turn on, so he can start talking. Letting go of the brakes - people will no longer believe in anything GDP. Here's the task ...
    1. +1
      1 February 2013 15: 20
      Vasilieva also did not come down from the mountains ...
  34. +4
    1 February 2013 01: 35
    The money allocated to the runway, looking at the cottage son-in-law Serdyukov

    Investigators suspect that the funds for the repair of the military airfield Chkalovsky went to the improvement of the elite residence near Astrakhan

    more details http://izvestia.ru/news/544105
    1. 0
      3 February 2013 07: 07
      This is the dilemma. What will they hide, noticing the traces - the airfield or the Residence? It seems to me an airfield. There was no airfield, there were no funds for its repair.
  35. +3
    1 February 2013 04: 00
    Well, the results have already been summed up by all of us, and I think everyone has already made the conclusion that the power in the composition in which it is itself cannot be mastered.
    LOOKS ABOUT THIS: "I AM A PRINCE HERE THAT WANT THAT AND A VOROCH (I ACT IN THE INTERESTS OF THE STATE)" ... I WILL LET IT OUT.
    I DO NOT KNOW WHAT WILL BE NEXT.
    Judging by the words of Medvedev, Serdyukov was an effective manager. AT THE PRESS CONFERENCE PUTIN ASKED THE QUESTION, HE WHAT HE DIDN'T SEE? HE SAYS SAW, BUT I MISTAKED.
    I quote: "WHO DOES NOT THROW A STONE AT ME WITHOUT SIN".
    YES REVELATION ..... winked wassat
    THIS GUM WILL BE DRAWN BY YET NOT ONE YEAR, BUT DANGEROUS WITNESSES READY TO SPEAK THE BEGINNING TO DIE, SUGGESTED FROM STRONG MENTAL EXPERIENCES INFARCT. WE KNOW THESE FUN.
    I GIVE A FORECAST: HOW ALL WOULD NOT BE REMOVED DURING THE CONSEQUENCE.
    AND THEN CLOSE THE CASE IN VIEW OF THE ABSENCE OF THE COMPOSITION OF THE CRIME AND DESTRUCTION OF THE BASIC FIGURES.
    OF COURSE OF THE LORD, GDP AND DM THERE ARE MIXED AND NOT WEAK ..... WAITING FOR FURTHER FLIGHT ANALYSIS.

    WHAT IS THE MOST PARADOXAL, FAITH IN OUR LEADERSHIP AT ALL LEVELS ALREADY WHO DOESN'T HAVE.
    I WOULD LIKE ALL THIS TOP TO BE FOLDED AS A MASKOVO AT A FUNCULE AND EXTRACT A BROKEN ROD, AND ONLY THE ARMY IS ABLE FOR THIS. The Ministry of Internal Affairs of the FSB WILL NEVER MAKE THIS ONE OF THE OCCURRICULARIES OF THIS CONTROL AN UNFILLED ....
    1. +2
      1 February 2013 05: 35
      Quote: Zubr
      THIS GUM WILL BE DRAWN BY YET NOT ONE YEAR, BUT DANGEROUS WITNESSES READY TO SPEAK THE BEGINNING TO DIE, SUGGESTED FROM STRONG MENTAL EXPERIENCES INFARCT. WE KNOW THESE FUN.

      Well, why only a heart attack? There was already a banal car accident. Our specialists were exhausted, imagination and inspiration were gone. It has gone.
    2. 0
      3 February 2013 06: 54
      I remember most cases of those in power were closed after the statute of limitations.
  36. +1
    1 February 2013 08: 53
    I decided to share the demotivator too
  37. OLe OLeg
    0
    1 February 2013 13: 00
    Nobody will not plant anyone. All this is nonsense.
  38. +3
    1 February 2013 15: 19
    Vasiliev is the cousin of Medvedev’s wife. No comments ...
    1. 0
      1 February 2013 22: 33
      Quote: fzr1000
      Vasiliev is the cousin of Medvedev’s wife. No comments ..
      Look how! But men don’t know ...
      1. 0
        2 February 2013 02: 02
        Apparently, the "men" just know. That is why the result is as follows.
  39. +2
    1 February 2013 18: 47
    ONLY THAT ON THE FIRST INFORMED, IT IS POSSIBLE TO KILL VALUABLE WITNESSES ON THE CASE OF DEFENSE SERVICE. DETAILS SAID WILL BE LATER. COMRADES OFFICERS STARTED .... sad
    I HAVE HONOR ...
  40. SAVA555.IVANOV
    0
    2 February 2013 12: 07
    From the time of the NKVD, the control system that has been standing on the tapping, humiliating one’s own people and then on betrayal, theft and all these faces are already openly showing such faces, think only the Minister of Defense !!!! ?? The whole world laughs with us and hates for this stupidity life would have been torn apart, but some kind of fool handed power to nuclear weapons and she brushes off the liberators but at the same time the soul of its own people making their life unbearable, creatures !!!!
  41. 0
    2 February 2013 13: 33
    It’s as if Kasyanov came up with kickbacks at the government level, it was not in vain that his name was a bear of two%, and this one is probably also the Minister of Defense in the root, the generals of the dogs would write to their women and take them
  42. VP123
    +1
    3 February 2013 10: 27
    Serdyukov political corpse. He was not a minister but a destroyer whom all the aircraft hated and prepared a place for Shoigu. For this he will not be touched. Apparently there were no more willing people to do what he did. And they didn’t give Taburetkin once or twice to resign. There will be no trial and nishtyaki will leave
  43. EmiGRANT
    +1
    3 February 2013 11: 17
    As they say - beat your own, so that strangers are afraid - but in another way now.
  44. Oberon
    0
    3 February 2013 18: 47
    Moreover, all documents have visas of the Ministry, whose head at that time was ... Yes, yes. He is…
    How is it at the "Field of Miracles", documents in the studio
    And the fact that taburetkin der ... many know. But the immunity law does not apply to him. He is worse than a hunchback.