The evolution of sails on ships of the 18th century

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The evolution of sails on ships of the 18th century


Features of sail making


Before the advent of steam power in the 19th century, warships depended on the wind and their sails. It was the sails that provided sailing ships with motive power and the ability to maneuver in battle. It would seem that what could be simpler than a sail? I pulled on the rag and voila!



However, to function well, a sail must be strong enough (to withstand wind and damage) and light and flexible enough to be handled by sailors who do this work at altitude and often in difficult weather conditions.

And this balance, as it turned out, is very difficult to achieve, so in the 18th century the compromise solution was to use different types of canvas for different sails: lighter material was taken for sails of the second, third and fourth tier, and thicker and stronger material for lower tier sails.

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This drawing was used to illustrate the article “Sails”, published in the seventeenth volume of the “Military Encyclopedia”, which was published by the publishing partnership of I. D. Sytin in 1914 in the capital of the Russian Empire - the city of St. Petersburg.

Canvas in British navy was assessed by number. Number 1 canvas was the coarsest and heaviest, and number 8 was the thinnest and lightest. Heavier versions of canvas usually had a double warp, while lighter versions had a single warp.

Even the straight sail had a rather complex design. Initially, the sails were square or rectangular, but by the beginning of the 17th century they looked more like a trapezoid, since the eyelets and fastenings on the upper yard were shorter in length than on the lower yard. This was due to the introduction of more reliable rigging and lengthening of the yards. The luff is most often concave upward to better catch the wind.

At the edges, the canvas was bent in half and a lycrop was passed there, and it was shifted to the rear of the sail, so that on the darkest night the sailor could distinguish the front part of the fabric from the back by touch. The luff cable was thicker than the others.

The sail then needed to have grommets (holes) and centerboards (reef lines) to accommodate the reef bow (the horizontal stripe that allows reefing).

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The edge of the sail. The lyctros and eyelets are clearly visible.

Thus, in the 74th century, it took more than a thousand man-hours to make one topsail for a XNUMX-gun ship of the line.

The sail goes out to the oceans


Before 1700, major naval powers operated their fleets in European waters during the summer months and were always close to friendly ports. Since firepower was crucial, the ships were loaded with guns and ammunition to the full - to the detriment of their handling and weather conditions.

But the rapidly growing colonial economy of the New World and the massive expansion of trade with Asia led to a change in strategic priorities. Naval power needed to be projected across the world's oceans using ships capable of operating in harsher weather conditions. Naval operations also changed, with greater emphasis placed on maneuvering the fleet to gain a tactical advantage over the enemy. As a result, warships and their sails had to adapt to these requirements.

And since we are talking about the adaptation of ships, we can also talk about the adaptation of sails. And it was at this time that staysails began to appear, that is, sails located between the masts. Their number only grew throughout the 18th century, because staysails were oblique sails and allowed the ship to take the wind more sharply, providing both tactical advantages in battle and greater safety in bad weather, especially when the ship was in strong winds.

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HMS Lady Nelson (1798) with staysails set.

The first staysails appeared in Royal Nevi in ​​1709 and until 1720 they were triangular, but after 1760 some staysails were also installed quadrangular. The staysail was initially placed on the stay between the mizzen and main masts and between the main and foremasts, and when the stays became too thick due to the enlargement of the rigging, a handrail was drawn along the stay.

As for the jib, it was used back in the 17th century on small ships, but it did not quickly enter the navy. The fact is that this sail is located on a separate rail, which could pass independently between the forestays, so an additional cable was sewn into its luff, since the jib was raised from the deck, and not from the bowsprit. Thus, the luff of the jib was like a continuation of the rail.

At the end of the 18th century, the jibs were placed on permanent rails to facilitate setting.

The most important for maneuvering were the bow sails, and they underwent the biggest changes.

Firstly, the further forward such sails are extended, the more, according to the rule of leverage, the ship will develop speed. At the beginning of the 18th century, sailing ships had a small vertical mast on the bowsprit, on which one or two straight sails (bomb blind) were placed, as well as a sail under the bowsprit (blind or spritsel). Together with a larger straight spritsel, these sails served to gain speed or could be a turning lever. However, most often the blind was used as a shunting sail, for harbors or for removing/anchoring. The absence of a large amount of rigging made it possible to place the yard almost vertically (the so-called heated blind), that is, in this position it worked like a jib.

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HMS Prince (1670) in the wind. The blind and bomb blind are clearly visible.

But since such sailing equipment was both complex and limitedly effective, from 1705 blinds began to disappear, and gradually (this process dragged on for 20–25 years) they were replaced by jibs.

What, exactly, did they do? They lengthened the bowsprit and began to stretch triangular sails between it and the foremast, which made it easier to maneuver and easier to control than straight sails.

Of the main sails, the mizzen underwent the most changes. The advantages of having a lateen sail at the stern for maneuverability have long been known. This sail provided significant leverage when turning. And through the mizzen mast there was a ryu-ray going obliquely, on which a Latin-type sail was located.

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HMS Woolwich (1677). The Latin mizzen on the ru-rey is clearly visible.

But it was inconvenient. When the ryu-ray was turned in one direction, the part of the sail that was on the other side of the mizzen mast prevented it from effectively making the turn. Therefore, from the 1730s, the ryu-ray was gradually shortened, and by the 1760s it did not cross the mast, but was now located only on one side, although, of course, its turning functions were preserved. However, the lateen sail still remained.

But by the time of the American War of Independence, the British began to replace the lateen mizzen with a trysail sail. They did it simply - instead of the ryu-ray, they installed two half-yards (a boom and a gaff), between which a gaff trysail was pulled. Gradually this innovation spread to almost all ships. As of 1798 - the year of the Battle of Aboukir - only HMS Vanguard retained the lateen sail on the mizzen and the ryu-ray crossing the mast.

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HMS Indefatigable as part of Moore's force against Spanish frigates, 5 October 1804. The trysail on the mizzen is clearly visible.

By the way, the second such ship could have been HMS Alexander, but there would have been no luck, but misfortune helped - the ship was caught in a storm during the race for Napoleon, lost all its masts, and during repairs the mizzen on it was rebuilt using the latest method.

What were the sails made of?


Here it must be said that different materials were used in different countries. Initially, the main material for making sails was hemp, primarily because this material effectively resists salt water and almost does not rot. But there was also a significant drawback - hemp sails were very heavy, and it was very difficult for sailors to handle them. And the extra weight on the masts increased the value of the metacentric height, which threatened the ship with poor stability and capsizing.

Therefore, from about the 1730s, the British began to switch to sails made of flax, most often the flax was made in Russia.

As for the Russian fleet, almost all the rigging of Russian sailing ships, ropes, nets, flags, sails and even sailor uniforms, right down to the sailors’ uniforms, were made from hemp at that time. Each ship required 50–100 tons of hemp fiber for equipment every two years.

This state of affairs remained until Nicholas I, who transferred the Russian fleet to flax. That is why almost all history In the sailing fleet, the sails of Russian ships were a dirty yellow-green color - just the color of hemp fabric.

Don’t think that our ancestors were stupid - the usual savings took place: hemp canvas cost 7–8 rubles per pound, while linen canvas cost 16–22 rubles per pound, depending on the quality of the workmanship. It’s clear that priority in supplies and financing in Russia has always been given to the army, so they decided that the sailors could get by with hemp sails.

The Dutch and French used bleached linen canvas with a small admixture of hemp fibers to sew sails.

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The Battle of Abukir, the English squadron attacks under sail.

The Spaniards saw flax as the main material for sails, but they additionally soaked it in special dyes and “primed” it so that the fabric could resist rotting and salt water.

The Americans were probably the first to make sails from cotton. No, initially they, like everyone else, made their sails from a mixture of flax and hemp. But in the 1830s they started thinking. Cotton as a material is good for everyone - light, soft. One problem - it doesn't last long. And following the example of the French, they began to impregnate cotton with linseed oil. Soon linseed oil was replaced with resin - and it turned out that cotton was quite suitable as canvas. At the same time, sails made from it, with the same strength, are lighter than linen and hemp. And starting around the 1840s, the American fleet began sailing with cotton sails.

Sailing ship speeds


It would be interesting to see what the evolution of sails gave sailing ships. But how can we determine this? Let's try the simplest parameter - speed. Yes, this is a little wrong, because the shape of the hull, the sheathing of the bottom with copper sheets, and the ratio of length to width influenced it, but nevertheless...

So, according to Morgan Kelly's article "The Speed ​​of Sailing Ships during the Early Industrial Revolution, 1750–1830," the speed of ships on passages increased from 3–4 knots in the 1750s to 6–7 knots in the 1820s–1830s. It wouldn't seem like much, right?

But peak speeds when jibe or backstay almost doubled. In the 1730s, the standard speed of a battleship in fresh wind was 5–6 knots, in the 1800s it was 8–9 knots. Frigates, instead of 6–7 knots (the usual speed in a good wind at the beginning of the century), began to develop up to 12–14 knots (for example, USS Constitution and HMS Endymion).

And finally, for an example of the speed of some ships of the Black Sea Fleet during the 1820s (from the article by A. M. Glebov “Analysis of the propulsion, stability and controllability of ships of the Black Sea Fleet during the Russian-Turkish War of 1828–1829 based on archival data”).

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References:
1. Philip K. Allan “Upon the Malabar Coast” – Independently published, 2021.
2. A. M. Glebov “Analysis of the propulsion, stability and controllability of ships of the Black Sea Fleet during the Russian-Turkish War of 1828–1829.” based on archival data" - News of Altai State University, 2012.
3. Morgan Kelly and Cormac Ó Gráda “Speed ​​under Sail during the Early Industrial Revolution (c. 1750–1830)” – UCD Center for Economic Research Working Paper Series, No. WP14/10, University College Dublin, UCD School of Economics, Dublin.
4. Robert Kipping “The Elements of Sailmaking: Being a Complete Treatise on Cutting-out Sails, According to the Most Approved Methods in the Merchant Service” - FW Norie & Wilson, 1847.
5. David Steel “The Elements and Practice of Rigging And Seamanship” – David Steel: London, 1794.
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  1. 0
    17 February 2024 06: 42
    Before 1700, major naval powers operated their fleets in European waters during the summer months and were always close to friendly ports. Since firepower was crucial, the ships were loaded with guns and ammunition to the full - to the detriment of their handling and weather conditions.

    A controversial statement that is true only for the English fleet of the era of the Great Armada and until the last quarter of the 17th century.
    Spain initially launched ships designed to transport soldiers and placed a boarding ship at the edge of the corner. The Dutch are dual-use vessels. Even specially built flagships had commercial viability. Both countries' ships had sufficient autonomy and habitability.
    Thanks for the article.
  2. +7
    17 February 2024 07: 55
    Good article, respect to the author. For unprepared readers, it would be worth giving a list of wind directions relative to the ship's course with a picture (jibe, backstay, gulfwind, etc.)
    1. -6
      17 February 2024 10: 44
      For unprepared readers
      In this case, Makhov surpassed Linnik. In the second case, I at least understand something...
    2. +4
      17 February 2024 12: 58
      Then you just need to create a section on the website - “Sailing Fleet”. And there is an educational program in the article at the top.
      And there is no way to explain all these sailing subtleties in each article. The article is already written as woodenly as possible. Otherwise there will be accusations that the author wrote it as if it were for a kindergarten. What can you do, it has its own terminology. For example, foresail. Or write the lower sail of the front mast? Ugh!
      1. -5
        17 February 2024 13: 08
        Just a picture with the course of the boat and the wind would be enough. Without this, the author is simply showing how cool he is compared to others. That is, it asserts itself on the readers.
        1. -3
          17 February 2024 14: 44
          Opening an adjacent browser tab is backbreaking work!
          1. +4
            17 February 2024 16: 58
            Opening an adjacent browser tab is backbreaking work!
            It's about the quality of the note. So you can find everything on the internet, so what? Personally, all these courses are very familiar to me; since 1976, during my student years, I made 4 surfs myself and raced in the Black Sea. Since 1981, they began to consider it a watercraft and had to register it at the border post and call there every time: “I am KF 8675, allow me to go to sea.” So these minor complaints against the author are solely for the sake of other readers who have not been involved in sailing. hi
    3. ANB
      +1
      17 February 2024 21: 13
      . For unprepared readers, it would be worth giving a list of wind directions relative to the ship's course with a picture (jibe, backstay, gulfwind, etc.)

      Yes, we need a whole glossary here :)
      There are so many terms for one part of the sail. I had a hard time understanding it over the years.
      Although the luff and grommet are not to be forgotten :)
      And with the winds - well, everything is simple and clear. :)
  3. -2
    17 February 2024 10: 32
    Previously, ships were wooden, people were made of iron. Well, now the seamen will peck everything like a cormorant painted with red lead. drinks
    1. +6
      17 February 2024 12: 28
      The tree is over. The entire oak tree was destroyed. So we switched to hardware.
  4. +10
    17 February 2024 10: 44
    A little about aero and hydro dynamics and the bowsprit.
    The ship's hull and its keel counteract drift, and a hydrodynamic force develops on it (conventionally, a "lifting force" directed horizontally).
    When flowing around a flat plate placed at an angle, the center of pressure is approximately 25% of the length from the leading edge.
    With “ultra-small” elongations (which is what a regular keel and hull have) this is not entirely true, but still - the CP is shifted forward.
    If the sail is one and straight, then the mast is positioned exactly in the center of the center - that is, slightly shifted forward from the middle - this is all done by trial and error, experimentally.
    When there are a lot of sails, then in order to “drive” the center of the sail into the central center of the hull, the rear masts and sails are made smaller and lower, and on the contrary, forward, a bowsprit and sails placed behind the hull are added.
    1. +2
      17 February 2024 12: 39
      I think that in those days they did not think anything about the center of pressure (center of windage) and the center of lateral resistance. There was no aerodynamics. And hydrodynamics was at the level of experience and intuition. Therefore, we came to everything through experience. And, I must say, not bad. Ships are still being built according to that old scheme and everything works.
      Well, that’s not the same about the height of the masts. The height of masts is largely determined by the ability of the rigging and hull to carry those masts. Therefore, the entire system forms a “pyramid”. The system is closer to the triangle. It is clear that the standing rigging tackle holds the vertical post (mast) better, the greater the angle between this tackle and the post. And the bowsprit was invented for this purpose. It became possible to place the front (bow) mast closer to the bow - better controllability - and ensure its stability with rigging.
      1. +1
        17 February 2024 13: 00
        So I said that everything was done by trial and error - what we came to, now has an appropriate explanation. For example, why the bowsprit is forward, and not some kind of “hanging mast” back.
  5. +6
    17 February 2024 11: 11
    A very interesting article, although nothing is clear, but very interesting!!!
  6. +3
    17 February 2024 12: 02
    Sytin has no blinds. Although I could have indicated it with the mark “outdated”.
    And according to the speed table. It seems to me or not, but the speed of small ships is comparable to the speed of large ones? That is, in the era of sails, it was difficult for “little things” to escape from large ships, as was demonstrated by the Mercury? And how then to conduct reconnaissance?
    1. +3
      17 February 2024 12: 17
      The speed of small ships is less than the speed of large ships. The little thing could try to escape by maneuvering, but no more. It's just that a large boat picks up speed more slowly than a small one.
    2. +1
      17 February 2024 12: 53
      Everything depends on the power supply. Sq. meters per ton of displacement. Taking into account the fact that shipbuilding was an art, then the options here are a carriage. On the one hand, a small vessel is lighter and may even have a greater power capacity and have a smaller wetted hull surface. This makes it easier to accelerate and easier to maneuver. All sorts of yacht-like things - cutters, tenders, etc. could surpass large ships in speed. But the big ships were rowed by a high wind. And he is stronger. Battleships are expensive and they could have copper plating, but small ones do not. They are easier to clean. But no matter how much you clean, fouling begins in two weeks and then reduces the speed very much.
      The point here is that speed itself, until a certain point, did not really worry the sailors of large ships. The squadron must have similar characteristics. And the traders needed a pot-bellied hull so that more goods could fit in and a smaller crew, so as not to waste money. But let the ships on parcels and reconnaissance be faster.
      Although I will say in terms of tailwinds that a high-speed ship has less load on the spars and rigging, all other things being equal. It goes away from the wind.
      1. +1
        17 February 2024 17: 16
        We couldn't make sailing ships. The French did better.
        1. +3
          17 February 2024 19: 55
          It’s generally surprising to us that they made at least some kind of fleet. Those same Poles, sitting by the sea, didn’t even try.
          1. 0
            17 February 2024 22: 24
            Quote: MCmaximus
            It’s generally surprising to us that they made at least some kind of fleet.

            Well, the fleet was built in Sevastopol, even though they got the plague...
    3. 0
      23 February 2024 06: 28
      Well, Sytin’s picture of a three-masted barque from the late 19th and early 20th centuries, in principle, does not fit the article about the sails of the 18th century.
  7. +8
    17 February 2024 12: 21
    Everything that comes from Makhov’s pen, like this now, is a like. As for the sailing fleet and sails in general, I like it. There are no ratings here, so sorry.
    And here I will give a little constructive criticism. Still, when it comes to sails, I consider myself to be a practitioner with extensive experience.
    Initially, the sails were square or rectangular, but by the beginning of the 17th century they looked more like a trapezoid, since the eyelets and fastenings on the upper yard were shorter in length than on the lower yard. This was due to the introduction of more reliable rigging and lengthening of the yards. The luff is most often concave upward to better catch the wind.

    In general, all free luffs of sails have a concavity. In normal language this is called a negative sickle. And this is not due to what the author indicated, but to the fact that approximately along this line of the sickle the greatest tension in the sail from the corners passes. And all the fabric that is outside this line is simply rinsed and stretched. Sooner or later it will all come off. Yes, and in general it gets on your nerves and puts stress on the rigging and spar. Therefore, this excess material is preventively removed. In addition, due to the sickle, the luff has greater tension, and this also prevents rinsing. Curved luffs, like the rear luffs on yachts now, became possible thanks to battens - slats installed across the luff line. Chinese sails originally had battens, so they had an outward curvature appearance.
    The side luffs of a straight sail are also concave. It's just not very visible.
    For the same reason - stretching the “excess” sail material, straight sails also do not have right angles. Practice very quickly leads to reasonable decisions.
    Firstly, the further forward such sails are extended, the more, according to the rule of leverage, the ship will develop speed.
    You can add about lengthening the yard. Lengthening the yards increases the possible sail area, which allows for increased speed. Moreover, spreading the sails wider does not increase the height of the sails. Which has a positive effect on the heeling moment. Of course, it is worth saying that issues of speed were not of much concern to sailors back then, but in light winds everyone wants to go faster. Then, a wider pars is easier to reef. It's just much easier to lift the meat of the sails with your bare hands. This later led to split topsails. They were not reefed, but simply removed. This infuriated traditional military sailors, because it violated all the beauty. The traders didn’t care about the beauty, since it became possible to reduce the windage with a smaller crew. But the reason is the same.
    Firstly, the further forward such sails are extended, the more, according to the rule of leverage, the ship will develop speed.

    It’s not clear here about some kind of lever and why all this. On the one hand, the bowsprit allows you to pile up more sails and thereby still increase speed. But this is not the main thing. A sail is a propulsion device that pulls in the wrong direction. And almost always to the side. This creates a moment that tends to turn the sailing vessel. This moment is compensated by turning the steering wheel. The steering wheel in those days could not be greatly enlarged. The reason is simple - it is made of wood, there is not much strength, and it will be extremely difficult to hold it in the desired position with your hands. Balanced and semi-balanced rudders had not yet been invented. And the architecture of the stern itself did not allow this.
    Therefore, the ship was balanced on course with sails. And here, the more sails are stacked in length, the more options for this adjustment and the easier it is to keep the ship on course at different courses and wind strengths. I dare to suggest that all sorts of brigs, etc., were also the most capricious - fidgety - vessels. On older models you can see that they had a large keel drop towards the stern. This made it possible to increase the area of ​​the steering wheel and, in general, the area of ​​lateral resistance.
    This is where intelligent evolution is visible. First, the big rags - blinds and bomb blinds. Then the staysail (there is only one staysail on the bow) and the jib, then the abandonment of the blind. Because there's no point.
    1. +1
      17 February 2024 17: 09
      Quote: MCmaximus
      This creates a moment that tends to turn the sailing vessel. This moment is compensated by turning the steering wheel.

      Compensation by turning the rudder slows down the ship. We wrote above about a more correct approach - the centers of pressure above and below water should be on the same vertical axis so that the need for such compensation is as small as possible.
      1. +2
        17 February 2024 19: 03
        I'm talking about the principle. Balancing with sails also slows down the ship.
        I doubt that the majority of people could correctly adjust the sails for maximum speed. Moreover, from those fabrics and incomprehensible cut. On buildings that were built by craftsmen based on inspiration and experience passed on by someone. What happened was what happened. Maybe there were some unique ones. Some clipper captains. But definitely not from the Navy. They have a charter and structure.
        1. 0
          17 February 2024 19: 21
          No. Fundamental difference.
          Balancing the steering wheel is simply adding resistance. With the same windage and the same heeling moment.
          Balancing with sails means adding sails in the right place - the heeling moment increases, but at the same time the thrust increases.
          Or - they remove “extra” sails where they require counteraction by the rudder. The thrust decreases, but at the same time the parasitic resistance of the steering wheel disappears and the heeling force decreases.
          Or - they remove it where it is not needed, and add it where it is needed - in this case, the gain is maximum.
          1. +4
            17 February 2024 19: 27
            Oh.... Will you whistle the command and throw the yards at every change in the wind and wave strike? I can write an article about centering a sailboat. And it won't be enough.
            You can only walk without a rudder without a wave. There will be no controllability on a wave without resistance from below.
            1. +2
              17 February 2024 20: 23
              Write. If you know the question, you can write a book, an article, or a short “squeeze” for commentary. and if you don’t know, just emotions...
              A balanced sailing vessel is stable on its course. Even with disturbances. which are waves.
              And here everything is simple.
              "Balance" - the central pressure of the underwater and surface parts on the same vertical line.
              When a disturbance appears (the sailing ship is being pulled away or driven), the CP of the underwater part remains almost unchanged, but the CP of the surface part (that is, the sails) shifts, and a moment appears that restores the course.
              Modern yachts and other sailing vessels, in pursuit of speed, are often initially made unstable on course - and then they hang on the rudder (or on the autopilot) all the time. But now - what to choose - you have to pay for everything good.
  8. +4
    17 February 2024 13: 18
    I would also add about sails as a propulsion device - there is some difference and division into “active” and “reactive” - no matter how strange it may seem, especially in the definition of “reactive”.
    What kind of jet is there if it's a sail?
    But it's worth taking a closer look.
    A straight sail at full course takes on the wind pressure. To put it a little differently, a moving mass of air slows down on the sail, transferring part of its momentum to it, and reduces its momentum of movement. This is an “active” mover.
    An oblique sail flows around the wind at a small angle to the plane of the sail (except for full courses, where it generally works poorly) and practically does not slow down, but only changes direction slightly.
    The momentum of the moving mass of air, accordingly, does not change, almost, and the reaction on the sail is created due to a change in the momentum vector. This is a “jet” propulsion device.
    The "active" speed is always less than the wind speed. "Reactive" - ​​may be higher than the wind speed.
    In practice, there are no clear boundaries - for example, the straight sails of large sailboats can work either way.
    1. +2
      17 February 2024 14: 33
      Except for gybe - the wind is clearly in the stern - any sails work like a wing. Only one-way flow. No wind pressure. No braking. Therefore, the jibe rate is not profitable. I read that some of the big old sailing ships had the highest gybe speed. It’s hard to believe, given the lags of that time. But let it be an exception. This may be correct if the old sailing ship is simply very slow. which
      To understand this, you just need to draw the vectors of the true wind and the speed of the ship.
      I read the channel on Zen. I forgot the person. But in general, he served on our modern training sailing ship. But with the practice of a yachtsman. And their friends almost always drag them into racing. So, when he commanded the ship’s controls, he added a knot or two moves at once. Just from understanding the processes. And I believe in it.
      1. +1
        17 February 2024 18: 10
        It's fundamentally wrong. The jibe is not profitable because only the mother's projection of the "wide and high" windage is exposed to the wind. Tacking on straight courses dramatically increases the effective sail area. Well, the rest of you - about the wing - is just as wrong.
        1. +1
          17 February 2024 19: 02
          Sorry for the typo.
          Correctly:
          the wind is only a projection of the “widest and highest” windage.
        2. +2
          17 February 2024 19: 19
          What???? What projection???
          On the foredeck, the rear sails are exposed primarily to the wind. And they interfere with those in front. Simply put, only frontal resistance works. Yes, in jibe it is the frontal resistance.
          What kind of direct courses?? on the tack. What is the working area that is increasing? If you don’t remove/set the sails, but simply change the course, the area will not change. Moreover, it will not change on the Fordak.
          What is this anyway? And what about the sail area when close-hauled? And on the backstay? What didn't you like about it? Do you even understand about the interaction of sails on a close-hauled ship? Especially if you put EVERYTHING. There everything immediately begins to interfere with everything. This gets in the way on modern sails. But for those, it’s just kirdyk. I found some rag sails here and there. That's horrible.
          You have to be very smart about setting the sails close-hauled. That is why Bermuda weapons are now in charge. These problems are most easily solved there. There are even fewer incoming ones for aerodynamics.
          And what is wrong about my wing? Sail on courses other than jibe plus or minus 10-15 degrees - wing - and that's it. On everything that at least somehow clearly moves through the water.
          I see no point in arguing further.
          1. -1
            17 February 2024 19: 27
            Less emotions.
            Even with a completely tailwind, we most often tacked in order to expose a larger sail area.
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              17 February 2024 19: 31
              For those who persist. They tack with backstays not to increase the sail area. It doesn't change unless you change it. And the speed does not change due to the supposed “increase in windage”.
              They walk with backstays to increase speed. And precisely because the sail begins to flow around like a wing. And then an aerodynamic force arises. Which gives traction more than simple drag on the fordak.
              It is unlikely that anyone knew about this before the advent of aviation. But they did. Because anyone can see it.
              1. +2
                17 February 2024 20: 04
                Full backstay - there is no “wing” flow even close. The main sails "butterfly" and "inflate" the spinnaker (if possible).
                This is about yachts.
                Sailing merchant ships - the same clippers, "wind squeezers" with straight sails went to the backstay (with a tailwind) precisely in order to expose the maximum windage to the wind.
                Draw a diagram of the actual speeds at full backstay - get the apparent wind - and see what the angle of attack of the sail is.
                1. 0
                  17 February 2024 20: 08
                  On this issue - goodbye!
                  1. 0
                    17 February 2024 20: 12
                    Are you leaving already? Without saying anything worthwhile? They might not have come to the discussion...
          2. +2
            17 February 2024 19: 33
            “And what is wrong about my wing? A sail on courses other than gybe, plus or minus 10-15 degrees - a wing - that's it. On everything that moves at least somehow clearly on the water.
            I see no point in arguing further."

            And there is no need to argue. You just need to understand the issue.
            Normal airfoils have a critical angle of attack of up to 20 degrees (roughly).
            The "bow" of the sail is worse in this regard. That is, smaller angles.
            After the critical one there is a banal disruption of the flow - and everything works simply as resistance - that is, like a parachute.
            Straight sails at full courses have an “angle of attack” of more than 30 degrees - no “wing” flow is observed even close...
            1. +1
              17 February 2024 19: 48
              Yes. Do you take into account the progress of the ship? At least it's 5-6 knots. But there is. What if it's 10? I won’t say anything sarcastically about examples with numbers. I don’t want to write an article about sailing education. Even children are clearly explained about true and apparent wind with arrows in the sailing section. This can be seen in practice. The wind was just blowing from the stern from the side, but as soon as we set off, it immediately became from the side. Changed, nothing less.
              1. +1
                17 February 2024 20: 07
                Draw. Scheme. Make an educational program - for yourself.
                Learn a lot)
                1. +1
                  17 February 2024 20: 09
                  See answer above.
                  These are the letters for passing the comment.
  9. +2
    17 February 2024 13: 25
    An article about the evolution of sail MATERIAL. I was expecting a story about the types and development of sailing weapons, as such.

    Why do 90% of modern yachts have slanted sails, most often Bermuda sails? There is no need to climb the yards. All control from the deck.
    Already at the end of the 19th century, everyone came to schooners. hi
    1. +2
      17 February 2024 13: 37
      Skew sails are bad for full courses. The latest commercial "wind squeezers" increasingly operated along established routes with predominantly close to tailwinds.
      And most of their sailing equipment had straight sails.
      1. +5
        17 February 2024 17: 08
        Skew sails are bad for full courses. The latest commercial "wind squeezers" increasingly operated along established routes with predominantly close to tailwinds.
        And most of their sailing equipment had straight sails.

        If you are talking about clipper ships, then yes. But speed was important there. In general, for commercial transportation, a schooner with oblique sails wins. The reason is simple - there is no need to work with sails above, the crew is much smaller.

        The schooner "Thomas W. Lawson" with a displacement of 11 tons had a crew of 000 people. wink
        1. +2
          17 February 2024 18: 55
          “If you are talking about clippers, then yes. But speed was important there. In general, for commercial transportation, a schooner with oblique sails wins. The reason is simple - you don’t need to work with sails on top, the crew is much smaller.”

          In general I agree. But!
          Commerce has many factors and nuances.
          Regularity and flights strictly at scheduled times.
          The port infrastructure is working, and no one will “inflate” it.
          “Capital expenditure turnover”, that is, depreciation. A cargo ship is a very expensive thing, and it is better if it makes 12 voyages in a year than 6, even if the crew is 2 times larger.
          Etc.
          But the specific conditions of a particular route sometimes pose very non-trivial problems - and very original designs appear to solve them.
        2. +3
          17 February 2024 19: 23
          The Americans introduced schooners into widespread use. And this is mainly cabotage and whalers. It's clear why. In coasting, you don't really get to choose the sailing conditions. You need to go there and this is one way or another along the coast. You can't depend on the wind. Well, the lack of templates in the heads of free people allowed them to make other buildings. We were not subject to the orders of hundreds of years ago. And the Europeans followed established sea routes. There were no plans to change direct weapons until the beginning of the 20th century.
          There were schooners in Europe too. And under the same conditions. Coastal sailings with variable winds.
    2. +2
      17 February 2024 14: 41
      All other things being equal, it was possible to simply put more straight sails on that hull. Schooners are small ships with small crews. Relatively light. If you put slanting sails on any corvette, it simply won’t go anywhere. And for a long time the slanting sails were lateen. What fun. Schooners were introduced into circulation by the Americans. But they also built completely different buildings. Potentially faster. Oblique sails have another significant drawback - the displacement of the center of sail to the center plane of the vessel.
      Quite soon, all trade routes were explored and adapted for ships with direct weapons. They always sailed with fair winds. What else is there? Since the Industrial Revolution, England has had a population surplus. It was disposed of in every possible way. One way is to become sailors.
      But yachts are something else)))).
      1. +2
        17 February 2024 17: 21
        All other things being equal, it was possible to simply put more straight sails on that hull. Schooners are small ships with small crews. Relatively light. If you put slanting sails on any corvette, it simply won’t go anywhere. And for a long time the slanting sails were lateen. What fun. Schooners were introduced into circulation by the Americans. But they also built completely different buildings. Potentially faster. Oblique sails have another significant drawback - the displacement of the center of sail to the center plane of the vessel.
        Quite soon, all trade routes were explored and adapted for ships with direct weapons. They always sailed with fair winds. What else is there? Since the Industrial Revolution, England has had a population surplus. It was disposed of in every possible way. One way is to become sailors.
        But yachts are something else)))).

        Straight sails require a large crew. Therefore, warships are usually straight, in battle there was work for everyone.
        In commercial shipping this is not so obvious, although most windjammers are barques. But the Americans preferred large schooners; the Wyoming carried 6 tons of coal, with a crew of 000 people.
    3. 0
      17 February 2024 14: 43
      The strength of modern sailing materials is incomparably higher, the same with masts - light alloy, composite, etc., steel and polymer cables have replaced hemp, mechanization and rolling bearings (winches and ball blocks instead of capstans and deadeyes) facilitate control and reduce effort. In addition, a tall Bermudian has a higher efficiency.
      1. +1
        17 February 2024 14: 53
        Bermuda weapons became common with the development of science. When it became clear that the underwater part of the hull could also work not as a sail across the wind, but as an aerodynamic surface, then the Bermudian weapons won. Bermudian weapons installed on a traditional old hull are squalid. There are few examples and they are all specific.
        And ballast. Until recently, the norm on racing yachts was to have 50% of the displacement in the ballast keel. Bermuda weapons in this case are unrivaled in terms of efficiency. By the way, direct weapons are also aerodynamically close to an ellipse. and in this part, with the right approach, it is not inferior to Burmudian. There are already some ships implementing this concept. But still, acute courses are not for direct use.
        1. +2
          17 February 2024 17: 35
          Bermuda weapons became common with the development of science. When it became clear that the underwater part of the hull could also work not as a sail across the wind, but as an aerodynamic surface, then the Bermudian weapons won. Bermudian weapons installed on a traditional old hull are squalid. There are few examples and they are all specific.
          And ballast. Until recently, the norm on racing yachts was to have 50% of the displacement in the ballast keel. Bermuda weapons in this case are unrivaled in terms of efficiency. By the way, direct weapons are also aerodynamically close to an ellipse. and in this part, with the right approach, it is not inferior to Burmudian. There are already some ships implementing this concept. But still, acute courses are not for direct use.

          Bermuda as an example, we are talking about slanting sails in general. I repeat, the main advantage is that you don’t have to climb the masts, which means you can get by with a smaller and less qualified crew, which means you pay less. Insurance includes, if someone falls off the bed. laughing

          The 7-masted schooner "Thomas W. Lawson" has a crew of 16 people, the 5-masted "Prussia" - 46. With approximately equal displacement.
          Here they are frolicking on the Kruzenshtern. wink
          1. +2
            17 February 2024 19: 43
            I write about Bermuda, specifically in the context of every little thing - yachts, etc. Yes, in the 20-30s no one was interested in these Bermudian weapons. Although they knew about him from Columbus. Its development was initiated by the race and the corresponding involvement of science.
            And I don’t even see the point in arguing about slanted gaffs. This is true.
    4. +2
      17 February 2024 14: 43
      Yachts are for relaxation. We must walk here and now. Wherever we need to go, we go there. Oblique sails allow this.
      Almost all sailboats with direct rigs are now training ships. There the team needs to be, how to put it this way...., tortured and trained. Here.
  10. -1
    17 February 2024 22: 32
    Quote: MCmaximus
    Almost all sailboats with direct rigs are now training ships.

    Peter Blood disagrees with you.
    1. 0
      21 February 2024 16: 18
      So who is this Peter Blood?
  11. -1
    18 February 2024 06: 26
    Quote: mordvin xnumx
    Quote: MCmaximus
    Almost all sailboats with direct rigs are now training ships.

    Peter Blood disagrees with you.

    And who is this? smile
    I don’t write: that’s it. And almost everything.
    There are even cruise ones. There are replicas that are generally not clear where to place them.
  12. +2
    19 February 2024 08: 36
    Many thanks to the Author for the interesting material. There is quite a lot of popular literature about sails and rigging, but a historical excursion into the material used to make sails is an interesting rarity.

    Sails are one of those beauties of humanity, about which no matter how much you write, there won’t be much.
  13. 0
    23 February 2024 06: 59
    In general, there is an excellent book on this topic. We managed to publish it in due time.
  14. 0
    April 9 2024 16: 43
    Who would explain why these woodpeckers did not use exclusively oblique sails - there is no need to climb the yards - there are 10 times fewer sailors needed?