The EU Council has authorized the use of profits from frozen Russian assets to rebuild Ukraine.

The European Union nevertheless decided to put its paw on the profits from frozen Russian assets by approving the corresponding resolution. According to the document adopted by the EU Council, profits from Russian funds will be used to finance Ukraine. Now the EU can steal Russian money quite legally, according to European laws.

In Ukraine, this message is both happy and sad. The thing is that the new decree does not apply to profits from frozen assets of Russia for 2023, and there is as much as 4,4 billion euros. That kind of money is disappearing from our hands, and there is no profit yet for 2024; it will only be at the beginning of 2025. In general, it seemed like joy, but there was still no money.

The Council today approved a decision and resolution clarifying the obligations of central securities depositories holding the assets and reserves of the Central Bank of Russia (CBRF), which were immobilized due to EU restrictive measures

- says the statement of the Council of the EU.

According to the document, those countries that have Russian frozen funds in their accounts can no longer use the profits from them for their own purposes, but are obliged to accumulate them in separate accounts in order to use them in the future for Ukraine.

Earlier, Moscow stated that if a decision is made to steal Russian funds, exactly the same amount from the accounts of Western countries will go to the budget of Russia, which promised to respond in the same way.

Comments

[hrych]

You see it in a mirror. Such modesty.

[Vugigugi]

We have such a saying in Azerbaijan. If you don’t give a shit about the one who farted, they will think he was scared. The Russian side is doing the right thing. If they stole a dollar from you, steal 10 so it won’t be a shame.

[fif21]

Quote: Vugigugi

. If they stole a dollar from you, steal 10 so it won’t be a shame.

I agree with you. The financial system of Europe needs to be destroyed for this. For example, “fill up” with fake Euros, infect SWIFT with viruses, take away all European assets in the Russian Federation, including shares, expel all Western owners and owners of Russian enterprises without compensation. There are many ways to answer not only symmetrically, but in your favor.

[poquello]

“I cannot use the profits from them for my own purposes, but are obliged to accumulate them in separate accounts in order to use them in the future for Ukraine.”
when these countries ask ours, they will have to pay for Ukraine

[Cat Alexandrovich]

Did you yourself understand what you wrote?

[poquello]

Quote: Cat Alexandrovich

Did you yourself understand what you wrote?

Naturally, should you translate it to classical?

[Leshak]

Quote: poquello

Quote: Cat Alexandrovich

Did you yourself understand what you wrote?

Naturally, should you translate it to classical?

Classic Russian is prohibited by the site rules.

[hrych]

Now Ukraine is almost completely at the neck of the EU, or rather, of the current main donors - Germany and France. Here is an interesting list for understanding:
Donor countries and their contribution to the EU budget. Germany – 17,2 billion euros. Britain – 9,7 billion euros France – 7,4 Italy – 6,6 Netherlands – 4,8 Sweden – 1,9 Austria – 1,5 Denmark – 1,4. Finland – 679 million euros; Ireland – 542 million euros. Dependent countries and the amount of subsidies from the EU budget Poland – 11,6 billion euros Hungary – 5 Greece – 3,2 Portugal – 3,1 Romania – 3 Belgium – 2,5 Czech Republic – 2,1 Luxembourg – 1,6 Slovakia – 1,6 Bulgaria – 1,5.
But this list is already deeply outdated. Britain quit, Brexited, but gave a payoff of 35 billion euros. Those. in 3,5 years. Those. feed Poland for three years, but no, everything went to war. So what is next? Minus 10 lard from the donor... annually. And the worst thing. Loss of cheap energy source - gas from Russia, loss of cheap energy source - uranium from Africa. Well, Ukraine, not even at war, is on the rocks. And then there is war. Three tens of millions of snouts. Germany simply cannot withstand such a load.

[carpenter]

Quote: hrych

Three tens of millions of snouts. Germany simply cannot withstand such a load.

I like this more than Russian seized assets.

[Vlodek]

gambit? sacrifice a piece to gain initiative? grand maestro...

[opuonmed]

Quote: hrych

Germany simply cannot withstand such a load.

It’s like with a buck, will it collapse soon? What are you worried about: whether or not the Russian Federation will survive or not, it shouldn’t matter!

[hrych]

Russia doesn’t care, it is waging a war with the EU, for now it is an economic and proxy war in Ukraine. And on this economic front, Russia is at its best. Germany could no longer stand it and stability ended. Glass factories are closing, even Basf is curtailing production. Energy-intensive manufacturing fell more than 10% and pulled down another sector. Farmers are on strike, etc. If you don't notice this, then there's nothing to talk about. In France, farmers protest more actively, and if you were caught in a fountain of feces, your perception of the world would change dramatically. And the reason? Ukraine, war expenses, sanctions losses and the imbalance of the economy, which has been built over many years. About the buck. Russia is waging war and has initiated an anti-colonial revolution in China, Africa, Latin America and Arabia, against the world order and the single world currency. The Bucks must not collapse, they must be destroyed. Russia began this process by creating BRICS and paying in national currencies. This is a multi-year process and its results are now visible. The share of the US dollar in world reserves fell from 73% to 47%. Already less than half. The euro is even worse. The share of the euro in international payments in 2023 fell by almost half. Therefore, the dollar in tandem with the euro is not falling (yet); they are disappearing from world trade.

[opuonmed]

It's like the debt of the United States, will the kerdyk ever come to them? how long to wait one year two five ten twenty fifty ??????? but so far the stores in Europe have everything, they even offer discounts judging by the bloggers))) I’ll say this from the series beautifully, but I don’t know when the kerdyk will come to them, but it will come someday)

[hrych]

Are you in a hurry? No one expected that the USSR would collapse, although the signs were there and the bells were ringing. So did the Russian Empire, so did the Austro-Hungarian Empire, Ottoman and Chinese Empires. The collapse is rapid, but the processes are gradual. It's like an earthquake. The slab goes under another slab quietly, quietly, and then straightens up once again. And before the USSR, Great Britain collapsed. Once it was the largest and richest state, outliving all other hereditary monarchies-empires. The basis of the West is combat power and thanks to it everything else, including setting the rules of the economic casino game. So things didn’t work out with combat power. Russia, taking into account nuclear weapons, is stronger than the entire West. Look, they’ve found chubby proxy fools with an army of millions, but they themselves won’t interfere. The combined power, as well as the economy, of the BRICS has surpassed the combat power and economy of the seven, i.e. West. That's all. The casino rules have already changed dramatically. The problem of the West is that it is poor in resources. Oil. gas, uranium, i.e. energy resources are controlled by BRICS, Lithium and other rare earth metals are controlled by BRICS. These, unlike green securities and loan bonds, are real values. Just like combat power itself is a true value, but it must be overwhelming. But no, the Roman Empire is dying from the blow of the barvors. That's all.

[opuonmed]

in the USSR they also said that the US would soon collapse, their debt was huge, that Europe was degrading, etc., etc. I asked you when to wait, at least tell me approximately??????????? year two ten years twenty fifty years one hundred ?????????

[hrych]

They didn't say that in the USSR. The US didn't really have any debt. There was hope for an uprising of the working class, but not in the era of developed socialism. Brezhnev proclaimed the peaceful coexistence of different systems. Well, it was he who destroyed the Union; his students only completed it. The final fall of the United States as a hegemon is expected by 2030. The country has a decent economy and will be a strong economic power, but it will not be able to dictate to anyone. The fate of the EU is sadder. Contradictions between donors and parasites, the historical statehood of the constituent parts, in contrast to the states in America, etc.

[opuonmed]

Well, ok, we didn’t talk about the debt, I was mistaken, sorry, watch the video, it reminds me of something https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoYbdbt_bQU here’s a video for you)) that is, 5 years according to you to wait????? and if not, there won’t be anything to wait for more than 5 years? ))))))))))

[hrych]

The fall of the USSR, followed by the total plunder of socialist countries and the renaissance of neo-colonialism, really fueled the shaky West. Then they had to plunder Iraq and Libya. Next in line were Syria and Iran. It didn't work out. The West cannot exist without robbery, because... not self-sufficient in raw materials, especially energy. The Third World was not self-sufficient in technology and was weak militarily. Now everything has changed. The technological level is not the monopoly of the West, but the sending of the Russian Federation to the third world made it powerful. That's all. And now the dollar is not 73% (with the reserve currencies of the allies it was 100%) in reserves, but 47. This is a clear example, but not for American believers...

[opuonmed]

Quote: hrych

This is a clear example, but not for American believers...

this is exactly 30 years ago America America even Borka said bless America and the aligarchs and all the money was taken abroad! Why have they stopped taking money out already?????????? Well, let's see your forecast, really wait 5 years, let's see what happens in the end) I hope again I won't have to wait 5 years or 50 years)))))

[hrych]

Yeltsin pinned them. By allowing everything else to be robbed, he preserved a single, indivisible Russia and privatized the most valuable thing - the nuclear missile arsenal of the USSR. And with his student he stole victory in the Cold War. Yeltsin is credited with Gorbachev's exploits and blamed for the collapse of the Union. But he did not allow Gorbachev to sign a new union treaty, where the RSFSR was destroyed and the autonomies signed the treaty as union republics. Many people don't understand this. In 5 years you can shame me, although I only quoted big-headed analysts.

[opuonmed]

Quote: hrych

Yeltsin pinned them

and the people pinned a simple one! By the way, where do Yeltsen’s children live? in which country and grandchildren

[hrych]

In Gorbachev's version, the Russian people would have been destroyed

[opuonmed]

By the way, where do Yeltsen’s children live? in which country and grandchildren! Well, yes, Putin himself said when he came after Yeltsen that the CIA sawed nuclear warheads at nuclear facilities, or rather destroyed them)))

[hrych]

Does it matter? The main thing is the student-successor, not relatives. They're making a red saint out of Stalin, and where did his daughter go? That's right, in the USA. And Stalin did not leave a successor.

[opuonmed]

Quote: hrych

Does it matter?

like which one??? whoever made the Russian Federation should live in the Russian Federation and his children should experience the delights of the country they created! Well, what am I talking about and I’m talking about who was in power and for some reason children live in the USA, why is this))))

privatized the most valuable thing - the nuclear missile arsenal of the USSR.

The CIA sawed off the nuclear arsenal, disposed of Putin said))) probably the USA left some part of the Russian nuclear arsenal! okay, I heard you, you give 5 years for the collapse of the hegemon of the United States, good night to you!

[hrych]

Great statesmen do not have time to raise children and grandchildren. And nature rests on them...
All the best!

[Wratch]

Horseradish and finger are two very different things. You shouldn’t compare Stalin and... and there’s no one to compare him with. There are no analogues....

[hrych]

There are no analogues in terms of atrocities and victims of the Russian people

[Aag]

Quote: hrych

Yeltsin pinned them. By allowing everything else to be robbed, he preserved a single, indivisible Russia and privatized the most valuable thing - the nuclear missile arsenal of the USSR. And with his student he stole victory in the Cold War. Yeltsin is credited with Gorbachev's exploits and blamed for the collapse of the Union. But he did not allow Gorbachev to sign a new union treaty, where the RSFSR was destroyed and the autonomies signed the treaty as union republics. Many people don't understand this. In 5 years you can shame me, although I only quoted big-headed analysts.

Just one question - about the "privatization" of the nuclear missile potential of the Russian Federation(?)...???
Regarding the robbery of the Russian Federation, or - milking as a colony (which I still observe) - if you don’t look at the central media, but look at other sources... - it becomes very “inconvenient” in front of the participants of the SVO... (((.

[poquello]

Quote: hrych

The final fall of the United States as a hegemon is expected by 2030. The country has a decent economy and will be a strong economic power, but can't point it out to anyone.

ett 2025-26

[hrych]

They will resist. Argentina was recaptured and turned away from BRICS. This clown also said that Argentina will use the dollar as its national currency. We guess that the freed-up mass from the reduction in the dollar’s ​​share in world trade needs to be placed somewhere. A large state like Argentina will absorb a decent amount. Maybe the Ukrainian clown should have done the same.

[poquello]

Quote: hrych

Argentina was recaptured and turned away from BRICS. This clown also said that Argentina will use the dollar as its national currency.

they have already repulsed both Brazil and Bolivia, but not for long

[carpenter]

Quote: poquello

when these countries ask ours, they will have to pay for Ukraine

I'm sorry, but I have to pay. Boomerang has not been canceled.

[poquello]

Quote: carpenter

Quote: poquello

when these countries ask ours, they will have to pay for Ukraine

I'm sorry, but I have to pay. Boomerang has not been canceled.

so why am I quietly laughing, while they spent it on themselves - it’s not so offensive to return it, but now according to the order - it’s interesting to look at their faces

[carpenter]

Quote: poquello

It's interesting to look at their faces

Why look at them, they are stupid like my mother-in-law’s sheep. They just ask to eat.

[Aag]

Quote: poquello

“I cannot use the profits from them for my own purposes, but are obliged to accumulate them in separate accounts in order to use them in the future for Ukraine.”
when these countries ask ours, they will have to pay for Ukraine

Please add punctuation marks (at least), - perhaps - it will become more intelligible!... (however, - we are all people - we have the right to weaknesses... But. There is no need to make them public. IMHO...).

[poquello]

if this bothers you so much, put a dash in front of “him”, and “those” is “that is,”, and the dash is a hyphen)

[Aag]

Quote: poquello

if this bothers you so much, put a dash in front of “him”, and “those” is “that is,”, and the dash is a hyphen)

Alas... I'm not the only one who is "worried" by this...

[fif21]

Quote: poquello

if this bothers you so much, put a dash in front of “him”, and “those” is “that is,”, and the dash is a hyphen)

How everything started. But thank you!

[Aag]

Quote: fif21

Quote: poquello

if this bothers you so much, put a dash in front of “him”, and “those” is “that is,”, and the dash is a hyphen)

How everything started. But thank you!

[Aag]

Quote: fif21

Quote: poquello

if this bothers you so much, put a dash in front of “him”, and “those” is “that is,”, and the dash is a hyphen)

How everything started. But thank you!

Sorry, - the answer seems to be - not specifically for you! - I hope - someone else will read it...
It looks like - under this article... emotional people have gathered... And, - at the moment, - let's face it, - not sober...
I don’t condemn, - I have no right, - I’m like that myself... (yeah, - there is a reason, ((((, - a comrade, a mentor was buried...).
No, - I’m not complaining, - “It’s a shame for the State!” (C) Vereshchagin/Raskekaev/...

[tralflot1832]

What is it that European masochists are getting at? Will their money work for our budget? Will this madhouse in Europe continue like this?

[Napayz]

Russia

promised to respond in a mirror way.

Multiple it would be more logical

[KAV]

Quote: Napayz

It would be more logical

And much more effective! Western capitalists understand damage only when expressed in money.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: KAV

Quote: Napayz

It would be more logical

Western capitalists understand damage only when expressed in money.

I’m very interested: how will European businessmen react to the statements of European politicians? After all, in Russia it will be their assets that will be squeezed out, not politicians/states. Well, the amers of the Europeans will “throw away” as always, I sincerely doubt that the amers will touch Russian assets We are looking for countless examples of this in history, for example in 2015.
The further, the more interesting... But Russia seems to me to be in a better situation

[AVA77]

“According to the document, those countries that have Russian frozen funds in their accounts can no longer use the profits from them for their own purposes, but are obliged to accumulate them in separate accounts in order to use them in the future for Ukraine.”

Well I do not know.
There is a premonition that undetected and even identified Russian frozen funds will no longer be found, and perhaps even begin to disappear.
Yes, Russia did not invest any funds, what kind of funds, honestly, they did not smell, they did not see.
I swear by the European Union.

[Huarabey]

They seem to mock dill. And it seemed like they “accepted” something, but again nothing rang in xox’s pocket.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Warabey

It seemed like they had “accepted” something, but again nothing rang in xox’s pocket.

Like in that joke

...there is no ax, there is no ruble and there is still a ruble left, and, it seems, everything is correct.

[opuonmed]

assets of the Russian Federation are stolen from the Russian Federation and what does Ukrrrr have to do with it, I still don’t understand who is mocking

[Huarabey]

Is your Russian language bad? Well, excuse me, lad, I don’t know the language, so I won’t make it clearer.

[Vasyan1971]

Earlier, Moscow stated that if a decision is made to steal Russian funds, exactly the same amount from the accounts of Western countries will go to the budget of Russia, which promised to respond in the same way.

The main thing is that the word does not diverge from the deed...

[Vlodek]

“...Russians always come for their money...” (c) It won’t hurt to re-read Bismarck in Europe! This pepper knew and hated Russians! But even he bequeathed not to fight with us!

[opuonmed]

that is, they steal in public, that is, the EU declares war on the Russian Federation?

[fif21]

Quote: opuonmed

that is, they steal in public, that is, the EU declares war on the Russian Federation?

Yes, they announced it!

[Sailor]

It’s like with weapons for Ukraine, they take a small step and fearfully look at our reaction, then they become more impudent. They froze our money, stole interest... if we continue to behave toothlessly, they will simply steal everything.

[tralflot1832]

It’s funny to me that at the English Commodity Exchange there are 380 tons of our aluminum worth $000 million and they turn away from it like the devil from incense, don’t be too high about it - it doesn’t ask for money. It’s cool - our budget has received customs payments and all taxes, it’s even interesting what will happen next .

[alexoff]

Why doesn’t our Ministry of Finance or any of the high-ranking officials declare that they can do whatever they want with this money? We consider this a loan at interest from the Central Bank of the Russian Federation and sooner or later they will return everything to the last eurocent. And for part of the debt, say 10%, there are many professional collectors who will find convincing arguments for European officials.

[opuonmed]

In addition, income from Russian assets may be sent to the EU budget for their further use in the fund for Ukraine.

[Mikhail Maslov]

Where does the information come from? The EU has not made a decision on the assets of the Russian Federation. In addition, the assets located in Euroclear Bank, after allocating them to help Ukraine, the bank itself may go bankrupt as a result of other countries withdrawing their assets from the bank. And restoring the bank will require enormous costs and time. What They wouldn’t say it, but they know how to count money. So Denmark’s request has been rejected for now.

[opuonmed]

here is ru https://ria.ru/20240212/es-1926943880.html here is euro https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2024/02/12/immobilised-russian-assets -council-decides-to-set-aside-extraordinary-revenues/

Due to the risks and costs associated with holding the assets and reserves of the Central Bank of Russia, each central securities depository may seek permission from its supervisor to allocate a portion of these net profits, subject to compliance with capital and risk management requirements.

This decision opens the way for the Council to decide on the possible establishment of a financial contribution to the EU budget, raised from this net profit, to support Ukraine and its recovery and reconstruction at a later stage. This financial contribution can be channeled through the EU budget to the Fund for Ukraine, on which the Council and the European Parliament reached a preliminary agreement on 6 February 2024.

[Mikhail Maslov]

This project was rejected. See above for details.

[Andrey Andreev_2]

Well, now not a single investor from enemy countries will receive a profit from their investments in Rosneft, Gazprom, SB, etc... Plus, the whole world will see that the EU are thieves, investing money in the Euro is now scary.

[opuonmed]

Golden Lard was not the first country to do this)) but here the Russian Federation is the owner of nuclear weapons, but Putin said there would be no one to use nuclear weapons according to the doctrine! In short, if there is no answer, then it will be shown that the EU and the USA can do anything even with the Russian Federation!

[Glagol1]

Now let's see if the Russian government has balls. This is open theft, if this is not answered harshly, they will wipe our dirty shoes on us. And the answer is on the surface. Balances in type C accounts of enemies should be allowed to be invested in Russian securities on the Moscow Exchange, and the coupons received should be allowed to be invested in the budget! We will cover the deficit and the cost of securities will decrease. Now, due to the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, our issuers are expensive to place. And then the turnover will come and the rates will be lower. Well, what are we waiting for?

[1 z1]

Now let's see if the Russian government has balls

Yes, we've already seen enough...

[man]

Quote: 1z1

Now let's see if the Russian government has balls

Yes, we've already seen enough...

What are we talking about? They honestly told us that there was a shortage of eggs... and they bought Turkish ones. Let's look at the result of the replacement...

[jdiver]

and before that everything was still unclear over the years?

[I'm mine]

. and for 2024 there is no profit yet, it will only be at the beginning of 2025. In general, it seemed like joy, but there was still no money.

Well, that means the EU has decided that by 2025, Ukraine will no longer exist

[Poplar]

Wow, it seems so to me too. A very clever move: it seems that both the dill and their owners were pleased, and Russia was not spoiled too much. Most likely they know something in the geyrops about the end of the war on the outskirts. Otherwise, it turns out that they decided to shoot themselves in the column.

[tralflot1832]

What do you think, after we “mirrored” the EU, the next day the EU will not declare that Russia does not have the right to engage in “robbery”, only fair-faced European elves have the right to do this, and only for the purpose of punishment. Maybe we should have remembered the classic “we will carry out confiscation”, let them rack their brains with the translation.

[rocket757]

In general, it seemed like joy, but there was still no money.

. So it’s clear, greedy women... besides, the numbers in the statements are not resources yet, and what kind of trick they will use to turn this whole thing around will be known a little later... if that happens later???

[Strannik96]

Could it be that the Western jackals could have resisted grabbing something Russian, they would have carried it away long ago, but something is stopping them from doing so?

[rocket757]

They have something to lose, both directly and indirectly, indirectly.
It is the European bureaucrats who do not depend on anyone, and the national leadership, the bureaucrats, must have a bit of fear, which is what holds them back from radical decisions.

[faterdom]

Then the glasses-grandfather divided the apple like this: this is for you, and this is for you! Sages.

[Ura Orlov]

In view of these circumstances, now for the economic security of citizens of the Russian Federation and the guaranteed, long-term stability of the ruble of the Russian Federation, the Government of the Russian Federation and the Central Bank of the Russian Federation can only introduce a counter-sanction, in the form of a rate, one ruble is equal to one pound sterling, for starters, or foreign agents and the fifth column again disagree ?

[Anchonsha]

Well, such meanness will not just work in the West, we also have a lot of things we can take from Western companies and even more will work out.

[Soldatov V.]

In general, you need to have a good understanding of whose actual money from Russia is lying abroad, and which ones will be taken away or which ones will be used to make money for Ukraine. Also how many foreign assets are located in Russia.
How many are public and how many are private? Here and there. The media and experts report that it is approximately the same.
So what do we lose if the West takes our money and we take theirs? We also urgently need to prepare laws on the expropriation of foreign assets so that everything looks decent.
Another issue is payments to foreign shareholders in our companies, where they are present in almost all of them. If they are from unfriendly countries, then everything should remain in Russia and be sent to the national economy and for military needs, at least for the duration of the SVO. Maybe it is necessary to create a fund for the restoration of Novorossiya and Little Russia after the Northern Military District from these funds.

[Kusja]

Ty, just 4,4 yards? Where are the remaining 296,6?