There is an opinion that the Yemeni rebels should have sea drones for close contact with the US 5th Fleet

And yet, ships of NATO countries sometimes feel excessively at ease in the waters of the Red Sea, taking into account the fact that the sea is not an internal NATO lake. The fact that American, British, French and even Dutch, Danish destroyers, frigates and other warships are scurrying around the Red Sea already indicates that civilian shipping in this region is suffering greatly. And it suffers, first of all, because of the latest NATO military ambitions, when they try to appoint someone to blame for everything, and then heroically fight this “guilty person.”

So, what do we have at the moment?

The Red Sea is overloaded with NATO warships. Their presence poses a difficult situation for commercial navigation. Often, attacks on countries recognized by the UN are carried out from these ships. Yemen as an example. That is, NATO troops violate international law and violate the norms of the use of force. They act assertively and even impudently.

Accordingly, the Red Sea should become a place of great moral and physical testing for the crews of NATO warships. And for some reason there is confidence that the Yemeni rebels (Houthis) have fully reached the level of technology where they may soon have naval strike forces Drones. You don’t need much at the initial stage. Ten and a half will be enough.

US Navy ships leaving a military base in Djibouti can become fairly easy targets for Houthi naval drones when passing first, for example, through the Bab el-Mandeb Strait.

Moreover, the shock sea drones may threaten NATO warships in the Gulf of Aden. Even the simplest drone in terms of design is capable of traveling several tens of nautical miles across the sea and “tickling” the sides of the average American destroyer from the 5th fleet US Navy so that "tickle" can send this ship to a depth of more than 250 m in a few minutes.

Well, aren’t NATO ships legitimate targets for the Yemenis, against whom the North Atlantic bloc actually started a war? Yes of course they are.

Therefore, the Houthi naval drones may well go from being a figure of speech to becoming an objective reality for closer contact with the mentioned 5th Fleet, whose zone of “responsibility” is located in these hot waters.

Comments

[The black]

It's high time they appeared...and drones and anti-ship missiles and air defense systems.....

[Myths]

Moreover, in sufficient quantities that some would be afraid to go where they are not asked.

[knn54]

Who seeks will always find

[qQQQ]

Quote: Black

It's high time they appeared...and drones and anti-ship missiles and air defense systems.....

Someone, first of all, must have balls for the Houthis to get everything.

[bayard]

Quote: qqqq

Someone, first of all, must have balls for the Houthis to get everything.

Iran has them. And we see this, the Anglo-Saxons feel it, the Houthis show it.
But the point made about sea drones is correct, because we are not the only ones who should use this.

[boni592807]

Black. February 1, 2024. New. yours - "...It's high time they appeared...and drones and anti-ship missiles and air defense systems....."

It’s not surprising that the entire “civilized” West sends “HELP” to Ukraine at the “request” of the United States. From Soviet stocks of former "Warsaw..." and developments based on them. and mattress systems (B and VT)...A THE MAIN "FARMERS" OF THE ENTIRE O.Krainy with sidelocks... also don't mind getting their "little" gesheft и with the beginning of independence, they sold everything that was poorly stored in the warehouse (the motto of the lieutenant was “I don’t need a salary. Give me a small warehouse...”). And with the arrival of Ze. this is a “legal” feeder...T.C. - “...It’s high time they appeared...and drones from NATO countries and anti-ship missiles and air defense systems...and Javelins..”. Looks like it's in Gaza. in Iraq and the Houthis are still keeping THESE “gifts” from O.Kraine.... The “darlings” are waiting for “messengers” from Grandpa Joe...

[Ray]

For now, these are all just wet dreams. There will be no sea drones. Where do they come from? Russia doesn't have them. And even if there were, it would be as much will as needed. And this will is even more absent. Otherwise there would be no Bankova, Moscow Region, etc. and Zelya would be sitting in Poland, because in Kyiv the Daggers would get him anywhere.
When it happens, then we can talk about something. And so, let's go, boys. There's a fan here.

[Saxahorse]

Well, aren’t NATO ships legitimate targets for the Yemenis, against whom the North Atlantic bloc actually started a war? Yes of course they are.

Has the author slept soundly for the past month? And today the Houthis suddenly woke him up? Yes, from the very beginning the Houthis tried to attack American ships. About a week and a half ago, there was a sign showing how many missiles and drones a destroyer had intercepted. In total, even then, five destroyers had more than 80 destroyed targets. It’s just suddenly - truly modern ships have powerful air defense and missile defense, and it’s not so easy to get it with something flying..

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Saxahorse

there is powerful air defense and missile defense, and it’s not so easy to get it with something flying..

to appear sea ​​drones for close contact with the US 5th Fleet

[Saxahorse]

Quote: 30 vis

sea ​​drones will appear

Naval drones are a completely simple target for a high-speed warship. Even in the “tanker war,” Iran tried to use a mosquito fleet; all this little stuff can be carried out in any quantity without any problems. The main thing is not to stumble upon it yourself, and it is almost impossible to catch up with and hit a warship.

[Volodin]

Quote: Saxahorse

The main thing is not to stumble upon it yourself, and it is almost impossible to catch up with and hit a warship.

Do you even know at what speeds sea drones move? Or in your version, destroyers always sink at full speed without stopping, while naval drones have it “oared”? First, google the width of the Bab el-Mandeb Strait

[Saxahorse]

Quote: Volodin

Do you even know at what speeds sea drones move?

I know. A couple of models can dash at 100 km/h. The rest are about 70-80 km/h, also in a jerk. In your opinion, a destroyer that can shoot down cruise missiles at speeds of 800 km/h without any problems will not hit a boat ten times slower? The same anti-aircraft missiles used by Arlie Berkov are universal, they can easily hit both air and surface targets.

Moreover, the work on high-speed boats was specially developed by the Americans back in the last century, just after the “tanker war”. So you were thirty years late with your idea.

[Volodin]

Yes, in my opinion, you are thinking in terms of 30 years ago, when the very word “drone” (especially “some kind of naval drone”) would have caused bewilderment))
There is also this strangeness of comparing the capabilities of destroyers to shoot down missiles (which, by the way, they do not shoot down all of them) with the capabilities of countering several naval drones, for example, in night conditions. Or are you seriously suggesting that the Americans use anti-aircraft missiles to hammer at the surface of the sea?))

[Saxahorse]

Quote: Volodin

the strangeness of comparing the capabilities of destroyers to shoot down missiles (which, by the way, not all of them shoot down)

There were 0 hits on destroyers, 80 missiles and drones were destroyed, although they seemed to hit a supply ship, but it didn’t have missile defense.

Quote: Volodin

capabilities to counter multiple maritime drones, for example, in night conditions.

Has the author heard about radars? What about night vision devices?

Or are you seriously suggesting that the Americans use anti-aircraft missiles to hammer at the surface of the sea?))

So seriously that even we have been able to do this since the last century. Finally learn the materiel

[Volodin]

Quote: Saxahorse

We have been able to do this since the last century.

I wonder who these “we” are and where today are the concrete results of successfully firing at sea drones with ship-based anti-aircraft systems, if “you know how” from the last century?..

Quote: Saxahorse

Finally learn the materiel

When a person begins to appeal to equipment, it means that he himself is at least superficially familiar with it))

[Saxahorse]

Quote: Volodin

I wonder who this "we" is

We are Russians, and whose will you be? Overseas guest?

Quote: Volodin

When a person begins to appeal to equipment, it means that he himself is at least superficially familiar with it))

Looks like you're completely off topic. Anti-aircraft missiles were initially able to work against surface targets, large and radio-contrast. To learn how to use small and low-flying ones, I had to work with interference from the surface. Of the old ones, off the top of my head, the Volna-P air defense system from 1976 was definitely capable. Modern ones, like Poliment-Redut, can do it too. Americans even more so. All missiles integrated with Aegis (Sea Sparrow, SM-2, SM-6) definitely do. In 2018, the Americans posted a video of how they sank an old frigate with an SM-6 strike. Others have smaller warheads, but for boats it’s a steal.

[ANB]

. "drone" (especially "some kind of sea drone")

Without arguing about drones, isn’t it easier for the Houthis to “manufacture” conventional torpedoes? Surely there is still a good amount of edition 298 in warehouses. But they were removed from service anyway after Kursk. And there’s nothing special to shoot them down with. And the locator doesn’t pick them up, only the GAS.

[Saxahorse]

Quote: ANB

And there’s nothing special to shoot them down with. And the locator doesn’t pick them up, only the GAS.

In theory, there are anti-torpedoes, but how reliable they are is unknown; the Americans have little experience here. But the idea itself is much more interesting. A homing torpedo with a range of 100 km will certainly find someone in a narrow strait.

[ANB]

You still have time to use the anti-torpedo. The Navy used RBU against detected anti-ship torpedoes.
And here there is a narrow strait, small distances. You may not have time to react. And we also need to discover it. Well, 500 kg of marine mixture is an argument. 800 kg in TNT equivalent.

[solar]

American ships use AN/SLQ-25 Nixie towed decoys against homing torpedoes. Gus is on them too.

[Dutchman Michel]

Quote from solar

use towed traps

All this is in theory, but how will it all work in combat conditions?

[the most important]

with counter-multiple maritime drone capabilities

What if there are several dozen? What if with the release of false targets? What if several dozen airborne units start attacking at the same time? In this theater of operations, any warship can experience irreversible troubles, up to and including complete immersion in the abyss of water. So write everything correctly. Modern air defense is not ready to repel massive attacks from cheap drones.

[Dutchman Michel]

Quote: the most important

Modern air defense is not ready to repel massive attacks from cheap drones

And recent events show this very clearly

[solar]

After the attack on the USS Cole in Aden by a suicide boat 25 years ago, anti-sabotage measures in the American fleet were radically revised. Such cases are never heard of again.

[Dutchman Michel]

Quote from solar

We don't hear about such cases anymore

They'll come up with something else. There are no invulnerable ships

[Volodin]

It seems that the author of the comment was asleep, not distinguishing which drones were being discussed in the material

[Reserve officer]

Alexey, actually the title is not very good. Straight out of the times of party activist meetings. When the speaker voiced something that was clearly “unpopular,” he tried to hide behind the phrase “I have an opinion.” Whose opinion? It's not clear, it just is. Impersonal. And the speaker seems to have nothing to do with it.
Why do you need this phrase?

[Volodin]

Quote: Reserve officer

Whose opinion?

It seems to be signed there, whose. My. Yes, and the section is called Opinions. I don’t impose it on anyone, not even the Houthis))

[Maxim G]

Probably still destroyers and frigates .
And the question is, what were the drones intercepted with missiles and artillery?
What's the ratio then?

[Saxahorse]

Quote: Maxim G

And the question is, what were the drones intercepted with missiles and artillery?
What's the ratio then?

I didn’t delve into the details, I saw the sign itself, who shot down what and how many, in Klimov’s cart, there was some kind of analysis there.

[Maxim G]

Quote: Saxahorse

I didn’t delve into the details, I saw the sign itself, who shot down what and how many, in Klimov’s cart, there was some kind of analysis there.

It turns out that the NATO tanks are not bad, otherwise they were indignant that the weapons were many times weaker than our frigates/corvettes.

[Saxahorse]

Alas. Good radars, good missiles and properly trained personnel. Although yesterday I read in the news that for the first time in all time, the Phalanx turned on and shot down a drone that still managed to crawl below the radars. Well, or he was completely wooden, and only optics identified him as an enemy.

[antivirus]

There is an opinion that the yacht of the ousted Saudi prince with 50 drones is already approaching New York. He will take revenge, the United States did not allow him to take a post in the KSA Foreign Ministry.
And the statue of the dictatorship of freedom, and the building, and 20 more skyscrapers and a couple will fly into the subway

[fiv]

There is an opinion that the Yemeni rebels should have sea drones for close contact with the US 5th Fleet

There is an opinion that the Yemeni rebels MUST have naval drones for close contact with the US 5th Fleet

[Luminman]

Quote: fiv

naval drones for close contact with the US 5th Fleet

I am for such contact!

[Daisy mower]

Quote: Saxahorse

Quote: Volodin

the strangeness of comparing the capabilities of destroyers to shoot down missiles (which, by the way, not all of them shoot down)

There were 0 hits on destroyers, 80 missiles and drones were destroyed, although they seemed to hit a supply ship, but it didn’t have missile defense.

Quote: Volodin

capabilities to counter multiple maritime drones, for example, in night conditions.

Has the author heard about radars? What about night vision devices?

Or are you seriously suggesting that the Americans use anti-aircraft missiles to hammer at the surface of the sea?))

So seriously that even we have been able to do this since the last century. Finally learn the materiel

Hello. On my own behalf I would like to add:
1 Many Topvor readers propose transferring naval drones to the Houthis without understanding the consequences. What, in this case, prevents the Americans from transferring long-range missiles for aviation and flying drones to Ukraine?
2 Many Topvor readers (this can be forgiven for ground forces) do not imagine the power of the US Navy. In the Soviet Union, attitudes towards the US Navy were much more respectful.

[fiv]

The defeat of a warship is only an event with a certain probability. Whose fleet would he belong to? It all depends on the input and the number of attempts. Patience and work will grind everything down, as they say.

[Traktoris]

Have a bad outlook on life, comrade! Their (Shtat) missiles are already being shot down by Russian planes, over Russian territory, with a Russian crew. Where to next then?

[tralflot1832]

2000. It’s a little difficult with AI, but with GI (zambroved intelligence) everything is fine. The destroyer Cole worthily met the third millennium in the port of Aden in Yemen. “This is fate,” the United States receives lyules off the coast of Yemen.

[Revolver]

Back in 2000 they had suicide attack sea drones. As an automatic control system, a crew of suicide bombers. At least one successful attack is known.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Cole_bombing

[solar]

It was after this incident that the American Navy radically changed the complex of anti-sabotage measures and strengthened the anti-sabotage defense of ships. There were no more such cases.

[Moonlight]

Behind the Houthis there is only the north-west of the country with a small coastline, and the adjacent section of the Red Sea itself is quite narrow, so I strongly doubt that in relatively hothouse conditions even one AUG may have unsolvable problems with control over this water area. And the Americans’ ships, of course, are not boats like the Whirlwinds, which means that for a successful attack by drones you need a lot, all at once and very quietly, so that at the most crucial moment all the goods brought ashore are not destroyed by a missile strike.

[odometer]

Eeeeh, itch your hand, swing your shoulder... Let's crush Nata in the Red Sea, at least with the hands of the Houthis.

[odometer]

As a reflection on a free topic, an article is normal.

[evgen1221]

Should this, should that, but how exactly should this and that appear? Definitely not across the land border, but by sea only from Somalia, and someone’s fleet is stationed at sea, but where will it come from in Somalia?

[runway-1]

The Red Sea is overloaded with NATO warships. Their presence poses a difficult situation for commercial navigation. Often, attacks on countries recognized by the UN are carried out from these ships. Yemen as an example. That is, NATO troops violate international law and violate the norms of the use of force. They act assertively and even impudently.

If we talk objectively and not hypocritically, then the problems of commercial navigation are caused solely by the actions of the Houthis. As is well known, retaliatory attacks are directed at them, and not at recognized Yemen...

[Ray]

For now, these are all just wet dreams. There will be no sea drones. Where do they come from? Russia doesn't have them. And even if there were, it would be as much will as needed. And this will is even more absent. Otherwise there would be no Bankova, Moscow Region, etc. and Zelya would be sitting in Poland, because in Kyiv the Daggers would get him anywhere.
When it happens, then we can talk about something. And so, let's go, boys. There's a fan here.

[Cicerist98]

Russia (and China, as well) should be pumping the Houthis full of weapons right now, when the US, UK and their allies are helping and directing the Ukronazis to kill as many Russians as possible.