Rules for all. In the Caucasus, will write a "code of conduct" for Russian

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In Chechnya, they are officially finishing work on a code of conduct for young people. It is developed not only for Caucasians, but also for Russians. The authorities of the neighboring republics, in turn, were skeptical of such an initiative, arguing that there are quite enough Russian laws.

Rules for all. In the Caucasus, will write a "code of conduct" for Russian


The Chechen Ministry of National Politics, Press, and Information, together with the nationalist and leader of the Russian movement, Dmitriy Demushkin, officially finish the work on a code of conduct for Chechen youth. Initially, the information about this was perceived as a rumor. The statements of Demushkin about his collaboration with the leadership of Chechnya, which spread quickly on the web, surprised Russia and stirred up the Caucasus. Confirmed information only in mid-January.

We must submit a ready memo to our minister by the end of January. The fact is that we do not need to write it, and this is not a “code of Caucasian youth”, but a code for Chechen youth, and if someone from the neighboring republics wishes to adopt it, we will not object. In principle, the Caucasians have the same customs, the code of honor, the so-called, it has existed for thousands of years for the Chechens, a lot has been written about this, and we want to put it together, adapt it to today's realities and give it to young people. Because many do not know how to behave.
Islam Saydayev, Head of the Department for Work with Public and Religious Associations of the Ministry of Chechnya on National Politics, Press and Information, SmartNews


Saigaev also called the basic rule - respect for elders, not only in the republic, but also abroad. The code will be intended not only for residents of the republic, but also for those who live outside its borders. The memo is specially developed together with Demushkin, said the source, because his opinion is very important for compilers. It is no secret that most conflicts occur with the participation of nationalist groups.

His opinion is very important to us, because those tensions that arise in the regions of Russia, they are associated with representatives of nationalist groups, we would like to know what is not comfortable, and include these points in our code. We want to be useful in order to remove the friction that arises, and in this case, it is necessary to take into account the opinions of all parties, engaging him as an expert will give a positive result, there is nothing wrong with that.
Islam Saydayev, Head of the Department for Work with Public and Religious Associations of the Ministry of Chechnya on National Politics, Press and Information, SmartNews



Dmitry Demushkin. Photo: Maxim Novikov / ITAR-TASS

The leader of the Russian movement is not sure that the necessary practical sense will be from the code.

We understand that this piece of paper will not give anything by itself, the memo does not bear any legal force, it does not have the force of law, we hope that the first persons will sign it, but this is more like a recommendation, it does not offend anyone or offend.
Dmitry Demushkin, leader of the Russian movement, SmartNews


He confirmed that no one will be punished for not following the rules, because more effective measures have been taken in the Caucasus. The code will be useful for resolving conflicts, as it will rely on.

In the Caucasus, the concept of sanction is somewhat different, much more painful is the conviction of relatives of relatives and the authorities, rather than some kind of judicial sanction. Believe me, they know how to influence their youth without any judicial sanctions, a call to the grandfather can be more effective, or a conversation with the mufti of the village.
Dmitry Demushkin, leader of the Russian movement, SmartNews


Well, if you do something like this, it is better in the form of some cultural brochure. They say that in Moscow, St. Petersburg and similar cities people communicate with each other in this or that way, it is accepted by them, but this is not very good. Such brochures are published on various nations of the world. About ten years ago I read with great interest a whole series of books like “These Weird Germans”, “These Weird French”, “These Weird Japanese”, etc. They wrote them in Britain, they are called ironically in the original, like “Xenophobe Guide the Greeks. " You can write such a book not only about Russians for Caucasians, but also about Caucasians for Russians. I am sure that both such books will become bestsellers. Theme - nowhere hot.
Vadim Chernovetsky, publicist


The head of Ingushetia Yunus-Bek Yevkurov managed to speak out against the creation of the code. The authorities of Dagestan also spoke out against. Permanent Representative of the Republic under President Haji Makhachev called this initiative "wrong flirting with the nationalists."

The code of conduct - not for Caucasians, but in general for the people, as a whole for the country - these are laws. We must strictly abide by the laws. If you steal, go to jail. If violated - answer. If relapse means relapse We don’t need any codes, we don’t need to figure out how to behave. Are we savages or something?
Yunus-Bek Yevkurov, head of Ingushetia, kommersant.ru


Meanwhile, according to the head of the human rights center “Memorial” Oleg Orlov, it is “funny” to write such a code with the participation of Demushkin.

The strongest in all this stories - the, that Caucasians will learn Demushkin. It's generally awesome fun. Such an extremely radical nationalist will teach the people of the North Caucasus something. The idea, in my opinion, is initially doomed to meaningless existence, because such a document will not bring any real consequences, apart from PR of several figures.
Oleg Orlov, head of the Memorial Human Rights Center, kommersant.ru


The reaction of local to the development of a code is ambiguous. More people agree that the state is obliged to regulate relations between nations by normative acts, but not unilaterally.

At work, I drive in Russia. The son is also studying in Krasnodar. As it happens, they immediately say to him in the university, they say, leave for your Chechnya, study there. We 20 years ago had a good faculty. Yesterday’s graduates mainly teach. And this is not our fault. Why do I have to call up with my son two or three times every day and worry about him? Why does he need to carry a piece of paper in his pocket with prescriptions, how to act in one or another situation? If there is an inter-ethnic problem, then the authorities should talk about it, discuss it with all parties, and not expose Caucasians as the cause of all the troubles in Russia. Vaughn, the Uzbek janitor hit the boy, and now he is being tried. The entire courtyard of the residents stands up for his janitor, but no, we must punish the "chock" so as not to beat our boy. Why then in Russia there is the Criminal Code, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the prosecutor's office, the Investigation Committee, the FSB, who can not stop the "uncontrolled" citizens, whether Caucasians or Russians. Violated - must answer. We are all Russians.
Alvi, businessman from Grozny, SmartNews


I come from the Vedeno district. Spent his childhood and youth there. In our family, we were very jealous of the customs and traditions of our people, the word of parents was law for us. Neither I needed, nor my grandchildren need any written rules of behavior. Absorbed them with mother's milk. But many representatives of youth behave unworthily, disgrace their people. For them, such a code is really necessary.
Vakha Kantaev, a pensioner from the Vedensky district of Chechnya, SmartNews




It became known that the developers of the code of conduct proposed to include in the document information that will teach young people from Russia to behave correctly in the Caucasus. According to public initiators, the most mundane situations in life can be completely different from each other, they occur in Moscow or Grozny. And the consequences in case of ignorance of certain traditions in the Caucasus can be very different.

These are recommendations for people coming to a foreign cultural environment how to behave in order to overcome cultural shock. Believe me, a Muscovite, getting into the mountainous Dagestan or the Chechen aul, also has no idea how to behave.
Maxim Shevchenko, one of the developers of the document, izvestia.ru


Sent by Ivan Motykin

If such regulations will have some practical meaning, then they probably will really be a good judge, because the main problem of Russia is that we seem to live in one country, but at the same time are so blinkered that it is sometimes even scary, we live in our cocoon, not wanting to know either the traditions or the cultures of each other, we can only make fun and blame.
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  1. vladsolo56
    +37
    27 January 2013 07: 26
    What are the codes? who will execute them? young people have long respected no one and nowhere, I don’t know how in the Caucasus, but in the rest of Russia, respect for elders has long been forgotten, even with a fair comment, in 90 cases out of 100 you run into a selected obscene language and threaten yourself. In the youth environment, honor and conscience have long been no longer held in high esteem, money is the measure of everything, and for the sake of money, the young generation does everything.
    1. +16
      27 January 2013 08: 08
      Quote: vladsolo56
      What are the codes?

      Well, yes, let them first learn to observe the code outside their borders, and only then teach us how to lead "with them" in the Caucasus
      1. +8
        27 January 2013 08: 14
        The Caucasus made another step towards separation from Russia. They want this.
        1. dr. Mengele
          +21
          27 January 2013 08: 26
          Quote: Deniska999
          The Caucasus made another step towards separation from Russia. They want this.

          how can they want to separate? then Allah will not give Dengi
          1. Alexander
            +11
            27 January 2013 08: 51
            All this is garbage, you just need to put on muzzles on violent and put on a chain.
            1. S_mirnov
              +26
              27 January 2013 12: 37
              Any business contributing to the unification of the brant peoples of the USSR - I consider it a good thing! Not all Chechens are bandits and not all Russian drunks. It is necessary to fight the common enemy, ethnic strife only take away strength.
              Note that "Oleg Orlov, the head of the Memorial human rights center," spoke out against the code, "these are the same Memorialists who denigrate Stalin and our past, and are also trying to accuse the USSR of the shooting of Polish officers in Katyn! it is not necessary for normal people to become like these creatures.
              1. +12
                27 January 2013 18: 30
                S_mirnov, Unification of fraternal peoples, in principle, is a good thing. Only how to find out: is it a brotherly people or not? It seems that while you feed - brotherly, there was nothing to feed - non-brotherly. Unfortunately, it is a fact that Russia cannot get rid of the Caucasus. But, in Russia, the Chechen massacre of the Russian people has become suspiciously quickly forgotten. After all, several tens of thousands! Of course, during the two Chechen wars, in part, the death of these Russian people was avenged, but it would be at least imprudent to forget who we Russians are dealing with. If I am not mistaken, the Chechens call everyone to go to them and live, including the Russians. But it’s one thing with Demushkin and Belov (by the way, I don’t quite know who they are and why the Chechens are dealing with them?) To drive a car and it’s quite another thing to settle there. One thing is for some businessmen to deal with Chechens and risk only money, and another - their lives and their property. After all, the Chechens still have not recognized that it was they who started the massacre of the Russians, robbed them and partially released them, naked, if they were lucky. So, these people who compose some kind of "code" - let them shove it where we all know.
        2. in reserve
          -2
          27 January 2013 10: 00

          Deniska999
          The Caucasus made another step towards separation from Russia. They want this.


          Have you read the article? And watched the video? there the Caucasus will be explained in black and white, Russia will begin to fall apart.
        3. +6
          27 January 2013 11: 09
          Quote: Deniska999
          The Caucasus made another step towards separation from Russia. They though
          Where did such thoughts come from ... If they wanted to secede, then the blood would continue to pour there now ... And who needs small republics? As an enemy of Russia, yes, as independent states, no ...
      2. Quiet
        +10
        27 January 2013 10: 11
        Something I have not heard that in the center of Grozny the Russians were dancing "trepak" and molesting local girls !!
        1. +8
          27 January 2013 11: 11
          Quote: Quiet
          Something I have not heard of Russians in the center of Grozny dancing "trepak
          And what city did they dance? Russians then? And who of the youth know what a trepak is? laughing
          1. bask
            +27
            27 January 2013 11: 35
            Quote: domokl
            In which city did they dance? Russians then? And which of the youth know what a trepak is

            In the center of Grozny, you won’t see more than one Russian ... Because there are NO them .... If there were only a few left ... After mass ethnic cleansing. A. Moscow dancing for example .., easily. ,, They already feel like, masters, of Russia And there’s nothing funny in that. When you put a dagger in ..... This is all we already went through in Chechnya in the 90s. I do not want the genocide to be repeated throughout Russia. IT IS NECESSARY TO REMEMBER ABOUT THIS FOREVER. IT IS NOT FORGOTTEN, NOT, THAT IS NOT FORGOTTEN .. The jokes ended gentlemen-comrades. All very seriously
            1. AlexW
              +9
              27 January 2013 12: 45
              That's it ... I'm not vindictive - just evil and I have a good memory
      3. +5
        27 January 2013 11: 07
        Quote: RedDragoN
        let them first learn to observe the code outside their borders, and only then teach us how to lead “with them,” in the Caucasus
        So read the article carefully ... This is exactly what the conversation is about ... Young people breaking away from their relatives sometimes behave swine in another republic ... But exactly the same thing happens with young people of all nationalities ...
        1. +13
          27 January 2013 11: 43
          It has long been established that the matter is not so much in national characteristics, but in the fact that people behave in such a way as they allow themselves to carry on. And this is a question for the authorities. Allows IT to the children of the mountains who come to come to behave cheekily, brazenly, ignore the adopted hostel rules, laws, turn a blind eye to all this, playing political correctness and tolerance instead of attracting an RESPONSE, so they LEAD THEM !!!
          Another example. They allow all DRINKED SCARP to crush people at cars at pedestrian crossings, shoot down at stops, etc. and all this COMES FROM HANDS, so she behaves herself and the number of such CRIMES only grows!
          1. 0
            27 January 2013 21: 13
            Goldmitro,
            We are all to blame. And do not blame anyone, but we are the whole society, the whole people, the whole state. Our society has chosen those who direct us, then we get it - deservedly!
          2. +1
            28 January 2013 08: 31
            In the Caucasus, bosses know how to lick asses. They love it. Russians will never give as much as a Caucasian gives. That's all the problems. Plus human rights activists are freaking! When the officers sold my brother into slavery, he didn’t make any noise! ​​From the 96th, he was the one who handed it over. Try to touch us here! Immediately: The Black Hundred and the nationalist. And the fact that they feed at the expense of Russia is the norm. In the Caucasus, you don’t you will see not a single Caucasian that he would ram-pass our vanka. It's a shame!
    2. SASCHAmIXEEW
      +2
      27 January 2013 09: 05
      Do not smear everyone with one paint .... All people are different! And they bring up in the family what we give, we will receive! And the youth is different and for the whole of RUSSIA do not speak, we did not authorize you!
    3. nickname 1 and 2
      -1
      27 January 2013 11: 03
      Quote: vladsolo56
      even making a fair remark,


      So, leave it as it is?
      Quote: vladsolo56
      In youth, honor and conscience have long been no longer held in high esteem.


      And what, heal itself?
      They have in the Caucasus ..........! And why not try to do it right here?
    4. +6
      27 January 2013 11: 05
      Quote: vladsolo56
      I don’t know how in the Caucasus, but in the rest of Russia, respect for elders has long been forgotten, even making a fair remark,
      Precisely because we have been telling children from an early age that some elders are good, others are bad, precisely because we ourselves forgot what it is to give way to an elder in the bus, what it is to let a pedestrian or driver on the road, to give way to a woman, we got such a generation ... Children are not to blame, our children ... But the apple from the apple tree does not fall far ...
    5. +1
      27 January 2013 11: 22
      Quote: vladsolo56
      What are the codes? who will execute them? young people have long respected no one and nowhere, I don’t know how in the Caucasus, but in the rest of Russia, respect for elders has long been forgotten, even with a fair comment, in 90 cases out of 100 you run into a selected obscene language and threaten yourself. In the youth environment, honor and conscience have long been no longer held in high esteem, money is the measure of everything, and for the sake of money, the young generation does everything.

      The question arises: what forces did this create, who created such youth? What are the addresses, passwords, appearances and everything will fall into place.
      1. vladsolo56
        +3
        27 January 2013 14: 23
        But you don’t seem to know that I have at least two sons and I raised them as normal people, they just respect the elders
    6. rolik
      +3
      27 January 2013 13: 48
      vladsolo56,
      That's right, they themselves (for the most part) raised the children as they are. Children born in the early 90s, practically a lost generation. Before their eyes, starting from birth, there is one picture - where to get points. It doesn't matter which way, the main thing is to get it. And what kind of respect for adults can we talk about, if all the years of growing up these children, the latter saw, basically, only one thing - to get more dough. They themselves saw how these adults break each other's shit, tearing throats in pursuit of money. And they talk about honor and decency, but it was just talk. Reality covered everything, that's why we got such a generation. Now, however, the situation has begun to improve. Young people began to understand that education is everything. The flow to universities started again. Together with this, now, it is necessary, starting from the kindergarten, to educate the civil self-awareness of a person. Give a correct view of the world, the truth about your country and homeland. To give the true truth, and not the filthy and emasculated "truth" that both Western and our liberals like to present. To cover up their crimes against our people.
    7. Tagir-abzi
      +4
      27 January 2013 15: 24
      this is our fault !!! how to educate at home so it will be on the street
    8. +1
      27 January 2013 22: 54
      I will not condemn, but I will not support your words either. However, on the very first day of his stay in Russia, he almost ran into a fight with the local "boys".
  2. +12
    27 January 2013 07: 31
    Yeah ... no words
    Because they don’t know how to behave ???
    I answer you have to behave DEFINITELY. What the hell is this? The point is not that a Caucasian violates them due to ignorance of Russian customs. It is about something else. We are talking about generally accepted norms of behavior. And the phrase that they simply do not know how to behave (and from this they say all the "misunderstandings") looks absolutely absurd.
    1. +3
      27 January 2013 11: 16
      Quote: volkan
      We are talking about generally accepted norms of behavior.
      The problem is that the generally accepted norms of behavior are different for me, you and the boy of the 14-year-old ... For me, mat is even on the street a violation, for youth, mat is even on the air of the central channels is normal .. For me, a violation on the beach naked, for youth topless norm ...
      And it doesn’t depend on nationality or place of residence, it depends on education ....
      1. +1
        27 January 2013 20: 27
        The generally accepted norms of behavior, they are laid down in the family and at school, and then conceptualized by the child.
        Natives of the Caucasus can not be allowed to blossom, but unfortunately they understand only power.
  3. +15
    27 January 2013 07: 34
    there they behave calmly, but then they sneeze on laws, customs and codes. We will not let them greet themselves, then they will behave quietly and decently.
    Yes, and it's time to cancel this bad article in every sense about inciting hatred.
    1. +3
      27 January 2013 07: 51
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Yes, and it's time to cancel this bad article in every sense about inciting hatred.

      And this will be the first step towards the collapse of the Federation. In the Muslim regions, the heralds of Arabia will spread such propaganda that we never dreamed of. Such conflicts cannot be fanned, it is necessary to solve, but not fanned. It’s easier for the Germans; in theory, they can collect the same Turks and fuck the house in their historical homeland, we are not talking about the consequences. But for the same Chechens, our Russia, in the broad sense, is a native country and we can say that Russia is possible for Russians only if you are planning to create a new Russia within the borders of the Central Federal District.
      1. +9
        27 January 2013 08: 19
        Quote: Vladimirets

        And this will be the first step to the collapse of the Federation

        Sweat to fall apart.
        Quote: Vladimirets
        In the Muslim regions, the heralds of Arabia will spread such propaganda that we never dreamed of.

        These heralds respect only power and nothing else. Hang one and all the others shut up quickly if we Russian 80% of the Russian population are afraid of Arabian heralds, well, where does it fit.
        Quote: Vladimirets
        But for the same Chechens, our Russia, in the broad sense, is a native country and we can say that Russia is possible for Russians only if you are going to create a new Russia within the borders of the Central Federal District

        Did I suggest that something like this, now Caucasians are more right than ours. You say that Chechens are Russia’s native country, so let them behave like in their native country !!! No, fuck the beach.
        1. +1
          27 January 2013 08: 35
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          These heralds respect only power and nothing else. Hang one and all the others shut up quickly if we Russian 80% of the Russian population are afraid of Arabian heralds, well, where does it fit.

          Nobody talks about "being afraid". Just hang it from the state of Somalia or Afghanistan, but we are not Pashtuns. And in a state governed by the rule of law, there must be laws to combat such scum.
          PS Although, of course, hang is closer to me wink
          1. +4
            27 January 2013 09: 24
            Quote: Vladimirets
            And in a state of law to combat such scum, laws must exist.

            To combat such scum, article 282 of the Criminal Code interferes very much. Which, in essence, unleashes languages ​​to the right-wingers.
            1. +3
              27 January 2013 09: 47
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              For the fight against such scum, 282 article of the Criminal Code interferes very much

              Hello Sasha! I quote:
              Are we savages, or what?
              Yunus-Bek Yevkurov, head of Ingushetia, kommersant.ru
              the question is, why do you behave like savages if you do not consider yourself as such? the answer is an 282 article .... hi
            2. +14
              27 January 2013 15: 16
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              To combat such scum, article 282 of the Criminal Code interferes very much. Which, in essence, unleashes languages ​​to the right-wingers.


              And also the 1993 Constitution. dictated by the ideologists of Jeffrey Sachs,
              where instead of the state-forming nation of the Russian people, the American theory of the "melting pot" of peoples is fixed at the highest legislative level. I don’t want to talk about this anymore, I have already raised this topic more than once.
              Moreover, in the Russian Federation, Russians are turned into Ivanes who do not remember kinship. They are forced to abandon the Russian nation in favor of a common Russian nation. For this, the column “nationality” was removed from the passport. I have also spoken about this several times here.
              Speaking generally in Russia, the contradictions between the state status of national minorities and the absence of such a status among the Russian majority are legislatively fixed. Neither the Russian Federation as a whole nor any of its individual parts are not a form of national self-determination of Russians as a people to the extent that Tatarstan is a form of self-determination of Tatars, Chechnya is Chechnya, Kalmykia is Kalmyk.
              According to the Constitution, there is no Russian people as such who does not believe, open and read. And Article 282 of the Criminal Code is just needed to suppress the desire of the Russian people for national self-determination under the guise of interethnic corruption.

              Passion by Constitution
              October 11, 2012 in the State Duma held a round table "Constitution as the basis of sovereignty
              A draft of the new Constitution was presented, developed by the professor of Moscow State University Stepan Sulakshin. The result was a proposal by Deputy Fedorov to present at the State Duma meeting some ideas voiced at the meeting.
              Completely here
              1. Frigate
                0
                27 January 2013 19: 25
                Dear, you are very objective in your arguments, this is your good quality, I respect
              2. +1
                27 January 2013 21: 33
                Ascetic,
                Thank you Stanislav for the useful comment!
                Quote: Ascetic
                I don’t want to talk about this anymore, I have already raised this topic more than once.

                That was definitely not in the know !!! recourse
                It turns out that the entire constitution needs to be changed.
                Otherwise, we will crush the water in the mortar, and manage with this Yeltsin occupational half-measure!
                But how to do it painlessly, I won’t know! Putin, as the guarantor of the constitution, has no such right! He swore on her!
          2. +3
            27 January 2013 09: 38
            Quote: Vladimirets
            And in a state of law to combat such scum, laws must exist.

            Good day! I’ll correct my colleague — not to exist but to work, the law has been adopted and it exists, but when it is only on paper it is not a law but a fiction ..
            1. bask
              +12
              27 January 2013 10: 12
              Hello land. And HOW TO LEAD YOURSELF TO Caucasians IN RUSSIAN GOVERNMENTS. They don’t write a law for themselves ????? Not only did they commit genocide and ethnic cleansing in Chechnya in the 90s. Not one m ..... did not suffer punishment .Now they want us at all, to make the Indians ,, the slogan in Grozny in the 90s ,,,,,, Russians do not leave, we need slaves ,,,, It's like Victor..If you correct something wrong .. Read it, people and animals couldn’t do it. The question is then who they are ???. One way is to them in hell [media = http: //conrad2001.narod.ru/russian/genocide /genocide_3.htm†[media=http://
              conrad2001.narod.ru/russian/genocide/genocide_3.htm-2001-XNUMX[media=http://conradXNUMX.nar
              od.ru/russian/genocide/genocide_3.htm].
              1. +6
                27 January 2013 10: 22
                Quote: bask
                , the slogan in Grozny in 90's ,,,,,, Russians do not leave, we need slaves ,,,

                Good health, land! I remember, alas, this is not forgotten.
              2. 0
                27 January 2013 11: 28
                A war, wherever it always goes through blood, dirt, shit and betrayal ... You can’t forget about it .. But revenge after the end of the war is the lot of the weak ... You, in my opinion, remained there at that time .. And now is 2013 year ...
                1. Mitzhel
                  +9
                  27 January 2013 11: 46
                  Now 2013, Chechnya is mono-ethnic, Russian refugees have not returned and will not return, the genocide of the Russian population of Chechnya that Putin spoke of has not been investigated, Chechen schools have Alimi head teachers and Russians are already leaving some parts of the Stavropol Territory ...
                2. +2
                  27 January 2013 12: 13
                  There are things that are never forgotten and never forgiven. And is the war over? Do not we see today its continuation?
                3. +4
                  27 January 2013 15: 52
                  Quote: domokl
                  .But revenge after the end of the war is the lot of the weak ...

                  Alexander, but it ended, the war? Or is lawlessness on the streets of Russian cities a world? Is it just its continuation, only in a veiled form ... and it’s not about revenge, but to remember.
                  .And now is 2013 year ...
                  - and what has changed?
                  1. bask
                    +2
                    27 January 2013 19: 17
                    Quote: Tersky
                    Alexander, but it ended, the war?

                    The war will end then. When the last soldier and a peaceful Russian resident of Chechnya lying in an unknown mass grave will be buried .. And sadists and murderers will be punished for their atrocities ... And not just any general concepts for specific crimes ..
      2. +2
        27 January 2013 11: 22
        Quote: Vladimirets
        to say that Russia for Russians is possible only if you are planning to create a new Russia within the borders of the Central Federal District.
        I agree completely ... We are so used to talking using common concepts that the meaning is more and more lost .... Russians, ... In our country in Siberia and in the Stavropol region, besides that we understand each other (as Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians) nothing in common ... Customs is different, culture is different, upbringing is different, etc. But we are all Russian ... So are Caucasians ... There is no such nationality and never was .. And we all talk about them .. .
      3. Misantrop
        +3
        27 January 2013 11: 39
        Quote: Vladimirets
        In the Muslim regions, the heralds of Arabia will spread such propaganda that we never dreamed of.
        And now they are silent in a rag or praise Medvedev? Maybe it's easier to shut up these "heralds" than to muzzle the whole country so that they are not accidentally offended?
    2. vladsolo56
      +4
      27 January 2013 08: 30
      it is not necessary to cancel the article. and it is necessary to comply with the law in full, then the order will be
      1. SASCHAmIXEEW
        +5
        27 January 2013 09: 17
        First of all, squeeze corrupt cops! If the cops begin to work as expected, then they will restore order quickly! And if as it is now, they need to cope on their own, to give such a turn, so that later it would not be common !!!
        1. +4
          27 January 2013 11: 56
          Quote: SASCHAmIXEEW
          First of all, squeeze corrupt cops! If the cops begin to work as expected, then they will restore order quickly! And if as it is now, they need to cope on their own, to give such a turn, so that later it would not be common !!!

          Everything is right! Only to the cops would I also add middle-level officials.
          Also corrupt bastards.
      2. itkul
        0
        27 January 2013 18: 32
        Quote: vladsolo56
        it is not necessary to cancel the article. and it is necessary to comply with the law in full, then the order will be


        And who will execute, these?
        Police St. Petersburg
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGOsldBZ8QI&feature=player_embedded
    3. +3
      27 January 2013 11: 17
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Yes, and it's time to cancel this bad article in every sense about inciting hatred.
      If to be principled, then half of the commentators of this article can be driven under the article laughing
    4. +1
      27 January 2013 18: 11
      Germaine de Stael: “The most corrupting combination is the combination of a bloody law with benign execution.”
  4. CCA
    CCA
    +2
    27 January 2013 08: 17
    There, the Uzbek janitor hit the boy, and now he is being tried. The whole courtyard of the tenants stands up for his janitor, but no, it is necessary to punish the "chock" so as not to beat our boy.
    However, strange reasoning - even if someone from the yard stood up for the Uzbek, then there is no need to punish ...?!? That is the essence of it, in the concept of this Alvi, that if the diaspora stands up for its representative, then it is impossible to punish ... therefore we have such contradictions ...
    1. +3
      27 January 2013 16: 35
      Do you think that these children are not to blame ?. because they are like that because their parents raised them like that. this janitor did at least something useful.
  5. -3
    27 January 2013 08: 22
    Tear out and shoot the tongue. And shave off the flimsy beard.
  6. Mitzhel
    +4
    27 January 2013 08: 38
    Well thought out. Only 1% of Russians remain in Chechnya and Ingushetia, 4% in Dagestan and Russians continue to dump from the remaining regions of the North Caucasus Federal District ... apparently these rules will come in handy for those millions of tourists who will fall to rest in the ski resorts of mono-ethnic, Islamic Chechnya and the beaches of Dagestan
  7. +9
    27 January 2013 08: 42
    For all who live in Russia, the Law is one! Arrived in Uzbekistan, Tajikistan and other republics, behave as you should in these countries. There is nothing to breed us in national apartments.
  8. +17
    27 January 2013 08: 58
    For Russians, a code of conduct is, first and foremost, quit drinking, smoking and using drugs.
    1. Fox
      +8
      27 January 2013 09: 13
      Quote: Andrey from Tver
      For Russians, a code of conduct is, first and foremost, quit drinking, smoking and using drugs.

      I will add: do not fuck with the black ones! By the way, observation: on the fence, on the way to work, there appeared the inscriptions ": Russian, do not drink!" and "artyakov (governor) -pi.do.ras!" , and the second one hung for a week ...
    2. +1
      27 January 2013 16: 36
      Andrey from Tver +1000
    3. Khokhol-MSC
      +3
      27 January 2013 22: 09
      Always thumped, also smoked actively in the USSR. Drug, yes.
      On the other hand, the Russian code is rather an appeal to honor and self-sacrifice, the ideas of which are now strongly discredited.

      In short, as for me, stop disintegrating and destroying, give minimal support, provide literate cultural labels based on films, and give a mega-task so that the whole world can solve this kind of shit. Then the gears will turn. With a squeak, "yes nafik it to us", "yes we will not", "yes, look for suckers on the side" soon the whole party will reach for the solution of the problem.
  9. +10
    27 January 2013 09: 30
    “Go to your Chechnya, study there. We had a good teaching staff 20 years ago. Now it is mainly yesterday's graduates who teach. And it was not our fault that happened." - I guess that the Russian faculty left Chechnya - through your fault!
    1. lexa patriot
      +12
      27 January 2013 10: 08
      HE DO NOT LEAVE - it was cut out by Dudaev's thugs.
  10. +11
    27 January 2013 10: 42
    All these codes are rules - talking on the topic of interethnic relations is nothing more than an attempt to maintain the existing state of affairs. And the state of affairs is such that, with the full support of the authorities, Caucasians win a historical competition with the Russians. Instead of strictly adhering to the law regarding thugs from the Caucasus, we are offered some kind of code. You see the elders, whether it is necessary to respect ... But who argues? Of course you must!
    The point is not that Russians do not respect elders, but in the Caucasus, respect for elders is the law. The fact is that Caucasians do not care about Russian laws and customs. They come to new lands and declare: "Allah gave us this land, we do what we want and Allah helps us" Any countermeasures on the part of the population come across statements of nationalism. Article 282 and the openly pro-Caucasian position of the authorities.
    Already on the forum, such statements appear:
    Quote: Vladimirets
    But for the same Chechens, our Russia, in the broad sense, is a native country and we can say that Russia is possible for Russians only if you are planning to create a new Russia within the borders of the Central Federal District.

    So here it is; Russia is the birthplace of the Chechens! But if Russia is a native country for Chechens, Dagestanis and other small (and not so), but proud peoples, and the Caucasus is not my homeland, then who leads the country to:
    Quote: Vladimirets
    the collapse of the Federation
    ?
    For a short historical period, the Russian Empire refused or lost California (Fort Ross), Alaska, Poland, Finland. Has Russia become weaker from this? Did it fall apart? Not!
    We have lost Central Asia - Russia has perished! Not!
    The fraternal peoples of Ukraine and Belarus set sail on their own. Mourn the loss, but live and hope for reunion.
    But the Caucasus is dear to us! We will not give up for anything! After all, this is Russia.
    I would like to reassure all those who are afraid that Russia will fall apart if the Caucasus is released. The fact is that the Caucasus will not go away. Never! Do not leave the trough. In order for the Caucasus to "leave" they still have to fight. We are facing a war for Russia's independence from the Caucasus.
    1. AK-47
      +6
      27 January 2013 11: 31
      Quote: Normal
      ... Caucasians do not care about Russian laws and customs. They come to new lands and declare: "Allah gave us this land, we do what we want and Allah helps us" Any countermeasures on the part of the population come across statements of nationalism. Article 282 and the openly pro-Caucasian position of the authorities.

      There is nothing to add.
      + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
    2. bask
      +3
      27 January 2013 19: 21
      Quote: Normal
      T. Never! Do not leave the trough. In order for the Caucasus to "leave" they still have to fight. We are facing a war for Russia's independence from the Caucasus.
      Reply

      Everything is exactly the same ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
  11. +5
    27 January 2013 11: 03
    At work, I travel to Russia. The son also studies in Krasnodar. As what happens, they immediately tell him at the university that they’ll leave for your Chechnya and study there. We had a good faculty 20 years ago. Yesterday’s graduates mostly teach now. And it was not our fault. Why should I call my son two or three times every day and worry about him?


    yeah, it happened through our fault .. always wondered in the inhabitants of the Caucasus that they weren’t to blame for anything, and then the same song again
  12. +13
    27 January 2013 11: 32
    One absolutely rhetorical question - and who will fulfill the provisions of this very "code"? .. Those who, for whatever reason and without reason, are firing on the streets from injuries? .. Those who in the early 1990s. massacred Russian families in Grozny and the surrounding settlements? .. Those who created one of the most powerful ethnic criminal groups in our country? .. Those who kept slaves in their homes and believed that it should be so? ..
    They wanted to chuck and blow their nose at the criminal code, and even more so for this "code" ... And all this action with its creation fits in one word. And this word is "idiocy" ...

    Of course, you can say that there are law-abiding citizens among the Chechens. Yes. There is. But they behave normally without any "codes" and do not violate the law ...

    So for whom (and for what purpose) was it written? !! ...
  13. +4
    27 January 2013 11: 34
    Neighing from only one article title
  14. stranik72
    +6
    27 January 2013 11: 57
    Quote: domokl

    A war, wherever it always goes through blood, dirt, shit and betrayal ... You can’t forget about it .. But revenge after the end of the war is the lot of the weak ... You, in my opinion, remained there at that time .. And now is 2013 year ...


    Arrived, take off your pink glasses, unresolved problems (the lack of an investigation into the genocide of Russians in the 90s in Chechnya) led to the fact that lawlessness performed by Caucasians, primarily Chechens and Dag, in original Russian cities exceeded all norms of normal human society. There were practically no Russians in the Caucasian republics (Chechnya) or decreased by 10 times (Dagestan) and there was practically no reaction from the authorities. Now the situation is very difficult with the Caucasians in Moscow in the Stavropol Territory and again the authorities are pretending that everything is normal. By cornering the problem, we will wait for trouble. And of course, at this difficult time, you need to help each other, and not stir up old grievances. We cannot do otherwise, Mother Russia stands on that.
  15. +4
    27 January 2013 12: 26
    More like a distraction than a solution to a problem. Zvukurov spoke sensibly.
  16. AlexW
    +5
    27 January 2013 12: 58
    What the hell are codes? Who comes up with this and why? There is His Majesty the LAW! Correct is not right, but it is the Law and should not be abusively executed! For more than 12 years in Russia, the president and the prime professional lawyers have been muttering one another. And not one has never declared the rule of law, that the law is one for all !! When their voters ask, as the executive branch, why is there a mess in the country? They begin to lecture on what and how to do it. Although the question for them is: - WHY DO NOT DO ??
  17. +5
    27 January 2013 12: 59
    Nationalists of any color, including those who follow the banner of Demushkin, are the driving force behind the collapse of our multinational country.
    But the locomotive is not they, but a weak, short-sighted state, which either flirts with the nationalists or frankly pays indemnities ....
    And the fact that Caucasians do not know how to behave is bullshit! Everyone knows perfectly well, and if they know that an action will not remain without opposition, they behave in the most appropriate way.
  18. +9
    27 January 2013 13: 02
    I spoke for a long time. Chechnya, Dagestan. Declare a sanitary zone and everyone who tries to get out of the territory on it must come under mortar and artillery fire. They deserve it for a long time with their behavior and the patience of the Russians. They don't want to work, but each type has a "business". And in general, it is significant that the son of a former militant they have a type of prezik. On the people do not care, but itself is normal from our prezik rakes money.
  19. Mik rybalko
    +5
    27 January 2013 13: 11
    Why do they need a code living in their mountains, and no one will touch you.
    But no, the Russians feed them, the whole of Russia feeds the Caucasus, now they are crawling towards us to restore their order.
    Grozny is a former Cossack village, and Chechens mainly lived in the mountains ..
    It’s high time, as Solzhenitsyn said, to build a 5 meter concrete wall, mine the approaches and let them build what they want inside, introduce codes ..
    After three months, each other's throats will be cut, or they will die out from infections.
  20. Alexander 1958
    +2
    27 January 2013 14: 41
    Good afternoon!
    In such a matter as interethnic relations and in such a multinational country like Russia, there are no simple solutions like the one proposed by Solzhenitsyn to build a concrete wall ..
    Such people as Demushkin, Russia can be proud of - it is a person who defends the interests of both Russians and Chechens, and as a result, the interests of Russia.
    It is very good that Demushkin does not just call for restraining the Chechens, but also seeks mutual understanding and solutions to controversial issues with them. This is much more difficult than to call to ban, ban, wall!
    Alexander 1958
    1. +4
      27 January 2013 15: 59
      Alexander 1958,
      Perhaps one could agree with you, but the fact that Demushkin the lamb of heaven is not true! All this is politics! Whoever pays him writes the texts. And trips and real estate in the mountains for beautiful eyes and words, or something!
      Personally, I will be the hell with this collection of rules only for Caucasians, or better yet for us Russians to write this better. How to stand up for a friend or neighbor as a mountain, how not to pass on injustice on the street, to protect a weak compatriot in a crowd of Caucasians and not to be afraid of beatings, otherwise many women already tell on television that there were no real men on the plane flying to the resort that could fight back a raging bully!
      Except for one who was not afraid to intervene, for which he was beaten because of his loneliness! If we ourselves are friendlier and bolder, then the Caucasians in Russia will seek protection from the police. And blaming everything on some destructive forces is easiest, although of course this also has a place to be!
      1. Alexander 1958
        0
        27 January 2013 16: 33
        For sergo0000
        Good afternoon! I don’t want to scold or praise Demushkin IN GENERAL, I have too little information for this .., but for his actions in this particular case, I support him very much .. At least against the background of Zhirinovsky or other rabid nationalists, his act looks very unconventional and clever ... And about mutual aid - "+", who will argue ..
        Alexander 1958
  21. +3
    27 January 2013 14: 47
    First you need to bug the Russians, which allow them to behave here like animals. After all, the policemen didn’t get away with it because of an emotional outburst ... The same is the case with fake documents for migrants.
  22. +5
    27 January 2013 15: 13
    Guys, I agree, it has accumulated. But if we start poking each other, we don’t have one, we don’t have enough eyes. Everyone has something to show. But if we shave the Caucasus, oh guys what will happen ...... ..
  23. +3
    27 January 2013 15: 50
    This code is a filkin letter and the appearance of a solution to a problem. Everyone knows how to behave and be human, but not everyone can be. And the implementation of this code, in my opinion, speaks only about one thing - in the Caucasus, young people are less and less listening to elders. And if he listens, he does not extend parental orders beyond the threshold and the hometown or village.
  24. +2
    27 January 2013 15: 55
    On the territory of Russia there is only one law - the Constitution of the Russian Federation, and if someone thinks differently, then this is his problem, and not like a newcomer who observes it.
  25. +1
    27 January 2013 16: 07
    First of all, there should be a family upbringing.
    Next is the study of the laws of the same Constitution. Moreover, detailed (at least in schools)
    Third, and most importantly - EXECUTION of laws at all levels!
    then no codes are needed.
  26. +2
    27 January 2013 16: 08
    Codex is a good thing, but here's how to get it to comply. I and people like me, live according to the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, they live according to the concepts and traditions of their own, outside their villages they adhere to the decisions of the diaspora, and even then not always. Codex is another tool in resolving issues not at the level of law, but at the level of concepts. Any code of conduct is vague, it will not spell out clear norms of behavior, which makes it possible for diasporas to stay afloat, in the form of experts in such matters. If you specify the problem and bring it to a separate chapter of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, the need for diasporas disappears by itself, because there is already a way out of the security forces. While there is no specifics, the government is forced to turn to certain experts in the form of representatives of the diaspora, and it is beneficial for representatives of the diaspora to drag out this process in order to stay in the game. In general, insanity grows stronger ...
    In addition, there are a lot of problems. The first problem is the lack of proper reaction of people, public institutions, the opposition, politicians, the media to the events, as well as the incompleteness of protest movements aimed at solving extremist, terrorist, nationalist crimes. Lack of cohesion of the people in solving issues of national security, widespread detachment from national, social, regional problems. In general, callous comrades ... The second problem is generated by the first and it is called - the reaction of the authorities to what is happening, that is. her absence. Given that we cannot get together, and most importantly, cannot come to the same opinion on a specific issue, we communicate with us through the norms of laws that we deserve. The third significant problem is corruption, which creates a mess, extends the boundaries of possible and impossible behavior of people, intoxicates freaks, brings them pleasure from permissiveness ... These are not all problems, there are a lot of them ...
    For which I respect the highlanders. They will talk about tolerance, participate in the discussion of national problems, call on Russians to live, communicate with Russian nationalists, participate in the creation of codes, etc. etc. but they will never allow a situation to arise that could harm national interests, they will never allow strangers to conduct business on their territory, corrupt young people, give them false guidelines, treat monuments, history, traditions, etc. without respect. and rightly so. Any interference leads to the collapse of the foundations, they understand this ... I can be a guest, but no more ... There is something to adopt ... there is something to think about.
    We have always lived on the basis of respect, respect for people, their religion, traditions, principles, and now we live on the basis of tolerance ... and many do not even really understand what tolerance is. If they do not understand, it means they are interpreted as beneficial in a particular situation. Generally speaking, but we don’t know where, and most importantly why ...
    Once again about the code. If you drive it through the regions and, according to the principle of case law, add to it the wishes of the indigenous population, you can achieve a result. But in any case, the basis of the entire Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, and it focuses on the Federal Law "On National Interests and Rules of Conduct on the Territory of the Russian Federation", in the regions, on the Code of Conduct in the Region + the Administrative Code of the Region .... (this is me, for example ))) It's not for me to decide, but it's a pity ... I'll put a good cognac to the one who will solve this issue ...
  27. +8
    27 January 2013 16: 49
    Something I have not heard that the Russian boys have committed chaos in Grozny. But blacks in Moscow, St. Petersburg, Kondopoga, etc. - constantly. And it should have been called "instruction for training monkeys." And it really is not politically correct. It seems like the Russians think that Chechen youths are not sufficiently educated.
    And as for utility, Belarusians get by without codes. Just when you don’t reach the heart. need to knock on the liver.
  28. +4
    27 January 2013 18: 34
    Yevkurov's words are the most reasonable. Why in addition to invent codes? In this case, the codes of the deputy of the State Duma, employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs (separately for each unit), workers of housing and communal services, trade, etc., should be ruled by the law. among equals. There should not be the first, among equals. In relation to the same Chechnya, this is not. And they see their "exclusiveness." In financial terms, in terms of quotas for education in universities, socially, even in relation to them of the Criminal Code They see it, take it for granted, they say that they are also "Russians", and at the same time, they separate themselves from Russia. They go as if to their colony, where basic politeness is perceived as a weakness. And I do not think that such an evil one, arrogant, inappropriate (albeit not all) behavior, no one condones. Either tacitly or intentionally. Until someone or something forces some fellow citizens to change the behavioral policy, until the elders themselves or elders start to kick in the head with those who who shouts "Caucasus is power, who is not with ami, the one under us ", nothing good will happen. IMHO.
  29. itkul
    +7
    27 January 2013 18: 37
    Quote: vladsolo56
    it is not necessary to cancel the article. and it is necessary to comply with the law in full, then the order will be


    And who will execute, these?
    Police of St. Petersburg
    1. Lakkuchu
      -2
      27 January 2013 21: 30
      Well done! Well lit. good
    2. Svarog
      0
      28 January 2013 08: 02
      Quote: itkul
      And who will perform these, these? Police of St. Petersburg

      If there was no violation of order (the roads there were not blocked, did not interfere with the rest of the citizens, etc.) then why is this video bad? Are you not embarrassed by the performance of modern dances, but by the historical ones? Where does the information come from that this is Peter? Etc. and so on .. shorter throw-in for "raising the degree"
  30. 0
    27 January 2013 21: 02
    let them write! and we will see how it all ends. And we will draw conclusions in addition to the available ones.
  31. Khokhol-MSC
    +2
    27 January 2013 22: 04
    And I would read, even for the sake of curiosity, for nifiga I do not understand this behavior. Maybe I’m just not catching up with something ...
    On the other hand, at one time he was also interested in Islam. They gave me the Qur'an. I read the first suras of 20 and realized that most of the Islamists, in fact, distorted what was written, because things were written there sensible and reasonable (well, except for the attitude to pork, I did not expect such fury)))). So, what am I doing. In fact, all those Islamists who show dodged fanatics who perverted the very concept of Islam.
    So maybe the behavior of the "golden youth" also distorts traditions in something good and, possibly, worthy people.

    In general, I will be grateful for the "read". Really curious.
    1. 0
      27 January 2013 22: 56
      One expression "you need to be neatly dressed" will already cause different interpretations throughout the territory of the Russian Federation.
      It is necessary to read the charters, which are written in blood, and not to interpret them to everyone in their own way. Those who disagreed with us were sent to rot in the proving team.
  32. makarich26
    +1
    27 January 2013 22: 53
    code of honor so-called he for millennia existed among Chechens
    How it is necessary not to love your people in order to write such things about someone else's.
    What millennia, what are you talking about, Dima? Chechens confused with the ancient Greeks or with the Egyptians? And they wrote down the code of honor in ancient Chechen and keep millennia?
    You, Dima, are either a fool or not ours.
  33. +1
    28 January 2013 04: 36
    Quote: Lakkuchu
    Well done! Well lit.

    Russian dances are not trained, hell? Vomit ... Ghouls in uniform.
  34. +4
    28 January 2013 05: 10
    The idea described in the article is shit of course.
    For a decent person, be he Caucasian, Russian, Chukchi, Jew, etc. no "reminders" are needed. A "bull" and "cormorant" whether he is a Caucasian, Russian, Chukchi, Jew, etc. FSUs for all sorts of "memo".
    This, in principle, is said by Evkurov and Demushkin, but if bureaucrats in the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Chechen Republic are bored and it will become easier from this, let them write, the paper will endure everything.
  35. lilit.193
    +1
    April 15 2013 16: 42
    This is nonsense! Are they there, Spice got stoned, just before that? They blew well, they were pushed and beaten not in a childish way, and they began to write down the glitch that they had dreamed of. When released, they read and called this work a code of conduct for youth.