Technology of creeping bourgeois counter-revolution 1985–1993. Chaos in a planned socialist economy

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Technology of creeping bourgeois counter-revolution 1985–1993. Chaos in a planned socialist economy

Article continuation Technology of creeping bourgeois counter-revolution 1985–1993. and how to counteract it.

However, the chaos created served not only to discredit the socialist economy. At the same time, it was a justification for radical market reforms and a cover for the enrichment of individual citizens. Radical reforms promoting the transition to a market economy were also well described by S. Kara-Murza (Kara-Murza S.G. Soviet civilization. Book two. From the Great Victory to the present day. M.: Publishing house EKSMO-Press, 2002. 768 p. .).



This was done in several stages. At the first stage, from January 1, 1987, the state monopoly on foreign trade was abolished. 20 ministries and about 70 large enterprises received the right to foreign trade. This move allowed us to kill two birds with one stone.

Firstly, this is an additional blow to the planned economy.

Secondly, these enterprises and ministries immediately became subjects of the global free market. By and large, there was no free market within the country, and its revival would require great effort on the part of counter-revolutionaries and a lot of time. However, as a result of the abandonment of the state monopoly on foreign trade, our largest enterprises suddenly found themselves in capitalist conditions.

We can say that capitalism poured into the country through the wide open gates. This step caused enormous damage to the country. However, from the point of view of the restoration of capitalism, this was a brilliant step. It allowed almost instantly the entire economy of such a huge country as the USSR to set sail on the free market.

In the 20s of the last century, even before the first five-year plans, the issue of the state monopoly of foreign trade was widely discussed in the USSR (for example, L. B. Krasin, Planned Economy and the Monopoly of Foreign Trade. M: Publishing House "Planned Economy", 1925. 40 pp.; Aikhenvald A. Soviet economy. Economics and economic policy of the USSR. M: State Publishing House, 1927. 372 pp.). Here is what A. Aikhenvald says about this (Aikhenvald A. Soviet economy. Economics and economic policy of the USSR. M: State Publishing House, 1927. 372 pp., p. 204):

“The main difficulty of the task was to be closely connected with the world market, not to fall into submission to capitalist forces.
On the one hand, it is necessary to take full advantage of the advanced technology of capitalist countries; it is necessary to adopt this technique and transfer it inside the Soviet Union.
On the other hand, we must prevent capitalist relations from leaking to us from abroad along with the advanced technology of capitalist countries; We must ensure that the connection with capitalism passes along a socialist channel, so that our “capitalist” machines act as levers for socialist construction.”

It was the state monopoly on foreign trade that acted as an instrument that guaranteed that trade relations with capitalist countries would be transformed into a force acting in the interests of socialist construction and all Soviet citizens.

Thus, by abandoning the state monopoly on foreign trade, the government of M. S. Gorbachev deliberately imported capitalist relations into the Soviet Union.

The work of A. Aikhenvald (Aikhenvald A. Soviet economy. Economics and economic policy of the USSR. M: State Publishing House, 1927. 372 pp.) also sets out the position of L. D. Trotsky, who called for abandoning the state monopoly on foreign trade:

“The essence of the opposition’s argument was that our economic development will inevitably increase our dependence on the world market, that we must accept this increased dependence, because this increased dependence will be tantamount to accelerating the rate of growth of the Soviet economy. Our “orientation” should not be on independence, but on pace, the opposition leaders solemnly proclaimed. And from this they derived the proposition that it is impossible to build socialism surrounded by modern capitalism: the Soviet economy will grow more and more closely into the capitalist world economy, will depend on it, will experience periods of rise and stagnation in accordance with fluctuations in world market conditions, etc. etc., etc.”

It was the path proposed at one time by L. D. Trotsky and rejected by the Bolsheviks that was used by the government of M. S. Gorbachev as part of a plan for the restoration of capitalism in our country under constant mantras about a return to the Leninist path.

The next important law adopted by the government of M. S. Gorbachev was the law “On Cooperatives” (USSR Law of May 26.05.88, 8998 No. XNUMX-XI On Cooperation in the USSR // Consultant Plus. Access date: 10.05.2022/1988/XNUMX), adopted in XNUMX. According to this law, cooperatives could independently decide with whom to enter into agreements and with whom not to enter into agreements, and could independently enter into agreements for export-import operations.

Because of this, as stated earlier, they could work as an economic mechanism for importing “capitalist relations” into the country. In his work “On Cooperation” V.I. Lenin (Lenin V.I. Complete Works. T. 45. M.: Publishing House of Political Literature, 1970. 730 pp.) writes:

“The system of civilized cooperators with public ownership of the means of production, with the class victory of the proletariat over the bourgeoisie - this is the system of socialism.”

But a little later in the same work he will say:

“There is no doubt that cooperation in the context of a capitalist state is a collective capitalist institution.”

Due to the fact that, according to the Law “On Cooperatives” of 1988, cooperatives themselves decided with whom to enter into contracts and could carry out export-import operations themselves, they could potentially become a collective capitalist institution, since they could work directly in the capitalist market.

This is how S. Kara-Murza describes the work of this law in our country in the late 1980s (Kara-Murza S.G. Soviet civilization. Book two. From the Great Victory to the present day. M.: Publishing house EKSMO-Press, 2002. 768 p.):

“At state enterprises and local Soviets, a network of cooperatives and joint ventures quickly emerged, engaged in the export of goods abroad, which sharply reduced supplies to the domestic market. Many goods during speculation yielded revenues of up to $50 per 1 ruble of costs and were bought from enterprises “on the vine.” Some products (aluminum utensils) were turned into easily transportable scrap and sold as material.
According to experts, in 1990, 1/3 of consumer goods were exported. Here is an example: in the winter of 1991, the Turkish government approached Prime Minister V.S. Pavlov with a request to organize a network of service stations for Soviet color televisions throughout Turkey, of which there were already more than a million. According to official data, not a single television was sold from the USSR to Turkey.”

The Law “On Cooperatives” solved several problems of the restoration of capitalism.

Firstly, this is an additional blow to the planned economy.

Secondly, it created future participants in the capitalist market.

And thirdly, it was here that many future billionaires appeared, for example, R. A. Abramovich, V. F. Vekselberg, B. A. Berezovsky and others.

The economic reforms did not end there, but what has been said is already enough to assert that there was a systematic transition to a capitalist economy.

Thus, in a very short time, chaos was introduced into the planned economy, the country's economy was thrown into the world market economy, and future sharks of capitalist business began to be educated. From an economic point of view, if not all the conditions for the restoration of capitalism were created, then quite comfortable circumstances were created.

However, for the restoration of capitalism to be complete and irreversible, it is necessary to transfer political power to the newly emerging capitalist class. It is at this stage that political games begin with the goal of removing ordinary members of the CPSU and the working class from power.

In 1988, a new election law “On the elections of people’s deputies of the USSR” was adopted and a reform of the political system is taking place (Kara-Murza S.G. Soviet civilization. Book two. From the Great Victory to the present day. M.: Publishing house EKSMO-Press , 2002. 768 p.), a new highest legislative body was established, the Congress of People's Deputies of the USSR. When they talk about this reform and this election law, they usually pay attention to the following points.

Firstly, it provided a clear advantage for members of the CPSU. It is obvious that the renegade communists did not want to lose power at such a critical moment for themselves.

Secondly, the number of workers and collective farmers among the deputies of this congress was about 23,7%, which is approximately two times lower than in the previous elections. There was not a single worker or collective farmer in the Supreme Soviet of the USSR.

Thirdly, according to the new election law, public organizations and meetings of voters at their place of residence received the right to nominate deputies (Law about the elections of people's deputies of the USSR in 1988 // Agitclub. (Date of access: 04.01.2022/XNUMX/XNUMX)).

This is normal practice for socialist China (Law PRC “On elections to the National People's Congress and local people's assemblies at various levels” // Legislation of China. (Date of access: 04.01.2022/1980/XNUMX)), but in the USSR at the end of the XNUMXs, this circumstance was primarily taken advantage of by anti-socialist forces.

Thanks to this, they were able to get into the Supreme Council, including dissidents. This is not usually emphasized, but it is important. Anti-socialist forces imposed their agenda on the Supreme Council and did not allow the planned socialist economy to be put in order, effectively paralyzing the work of the Supreme Council with discussion of issues not related to the economy. This was how the task of bringing anti-socialist forces to power at the initial stage was solved, as well as political cover for the ongoing restoration of the capitalist economy.

The next point of the plan for the restoration of capitalism was implemented in 1990. It was necessary to abolish the “leading role of the CPSU.” As S. Kara-Murza writes (Kara-Murza S.G. Soviet civilization. Book two. From the Great Victory to the present day. M.: Publishing House EKSMO-Press, 2002. 768 pp.), to include the question of the abolition of 6 Articles of the Constitution of the USSR were missing several votes from the Supreme Soviet of the USSR on the agenda of the Second Congress of People's Deputies of the USSR. On December 12, 1989, a group of anti-Soviet deputies called for a general political strike in support of demands for the abolition of Article 6.

But the majority at the congress also refused to include this issue on the agenda. Despite this, on January 22, 1990, at a meeting of the Politburo of the CPSU Central Committee, M. S. Gorbachev raised the question of abolishing Article 6 of the USSR Constitution. The voice of M.S. Gorbachev himself was decisive when voting in the Politburo (Vorotnikov V.I. And it was like this... From the diary of a member of the Politburo of the CPSU Central Committee. M.: Tsentrpoligraf, 2020. 591 p.). Here the renegade communists were unable to hide behind the anti-Soviet part of the Congress of People's Deputies; they had to show their true colors.

Simultaneously with the 6th article of the USSR constitution, a number of articles of the second chapter of the constitution were rewritten without any discussion or noise (Constitution (Basic Law) of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. Adopted at the extraordinary seventh session of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR of the ninth convocation on October 7, 1977. // Historical Faculty of Moscow State University. (Date of access: 04.01.2022/10/11)). These are articles 12, 13, 10, 11, relating to personal and national property. Articles 12, 13, 5, XNUMX were rewritten without public discussion, despite the presence of Article XNUMX in the USSR Constitution:

“The most important issues of public life are submitted for public discussion, and are also put to a popular vote (referendum)”
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This decision received legal formalization at the plenary session of the 3rd Congress of People's Deputies of the USSR on March 14, 1990.

Thus, the country abandoned the construction of socialism, the construction of a just society. Many deputies were unable to overcome the psychological barrier that had developed since the times of the USSR and oppose the decision proposed by the leadership of the CPSU.

Despite the fact that the CPSU was led by renegade communists, the bulk of ordinary communists were for the socialist choice. Therefore, the renegades were faced with the task of destroying an organization hostile to them, the need for which had already disappeared for them at that time. Therefore, it was necessary to move on to the next point of the plan - the destruction of the CPSU. However, after all the reforms, the direct destruction of the CPSU was fraught with a social explosion.

Therefore, it was necessary to find a good reason to destroy it. If there is no reason, then one must be created. For this purpose, the State Emergency Committee was organized. Why do I think that the State Emergency Committee is a provocation? Because they did not take any active actions, did not make any statements, and then just as suddenly, without any reason, the State Emergency Committee ended its existence.

But now the renegade leaders have a reason to ban the Communist Party. The CPSU and the Communist Party of the RSFSR were banned out of court, and the CPSU was also deprived of all property out of court (Kara-Murza S.G. Soviet civilization. Book two. From the Great Victory to the present day. M.: Publishing house EKSMO-Press, 2002 768 pp.). Thus, the point of the plan to ban the Communist Party was fulfilled.

The next point in the plan is to allow owners to exploit people. This point of the plan was fulfilled by B. N. Yeltsin in 1993 (Constitution of the Russian Federation // Wikipedia. (Date of access: 04.01.2022/1993/XNUMX)), after he was shot by the Supreme Council of the Russian Federation in October XNUMX.

B. N. Yeltsin’s side clearly indicates the cause of the conflict - the refusal of the Supreme Council to accept the constitution of B. N. Yeltsin, arguing that the old constitution, after many amendments by M. S. Gorbachev, contains contradictions. However, in that constitution, despite all the anti-Soviet amendments, in particular, Article 14 was preserved (Constitution USSR as amended on December 26, 1990 // Website of the Constitution of the Russian Federation. (Date of access: 04.01.2022/XNUMX/XNUMX)), which reads:

“The source of the growth of social wealth, the well-being of the people and every Soviet person is the labor of Soviet people, free from exploitation...”

In the constitution of B. N. Yeltsin (Constitution of the Russian Federation of 1993. Initial edition (valid from December 25.12.1993, 13.01.1996 to January XNUMX, XNUMX) // Constitution Russian Federation. All editions. (Date of access: 04.01.2022/8/XNUMX)) there were no such articles anymore. But other articles appeared there. In particular, Article XNUMX:

"1. The Russian Federation guarantees the unity of the economic space, the free movement of goods, services and financial resources, support for competition, and freedom of economic activity.
2. In the Russian Federation, private, state, municipal and other forms of property are equally recognized and protected.”

These articles claim that we will have our own “owners of factories, newspapers, ships,” i.e., bourgeoisie/capitalists who will make up a very small proportion of the entire population. Further article 37:

"1. Labor is free. Everyone has the right to freely use their ability to work, choose their type of activity and profession.”

This article states that all other citizens who do not own private property have every right to choose which private property owner they can work for.

Thus a labor market was created, thereby laying the foundation for capitalist exploitation.

According to supporters of B. N. Yeltsin, after the amendments by M. S. Gorbachev, there were contradictions in the Soviet constitution. The Constitution of B. N. Yeltsin eliminated these contradictions. Exploitation was declared the legal right of those who had private property. There are no more contradictions.

At the same time, the institution of people's deputies was destroyed. Deputies who lived among the people. And a professional bourgeois parliament with separation of powers was introduced. Thus, deputies who were previously part of the people have now become highly paid mercenaries serving the interests of the capitalists. Now capitalism has been restored. The renegades' plan is almost complete. Political power was transferred into the hands of new capitalists.

The last task in order, but not the least important for the renegades, is the privatization of state socialist property. The history of privatization is well described by S. Kara-Murza (Kara-Murza S.G. Soviet civilization. Book two. From the Great Victory to the present day. M.: Publishing House EKSMO-Press, 2002. 768 pp.), and it continues still.

Almost every year, lists of enterprises for privatization are approved (Order of the Government of the Russian Federation of December 31, 2019 No. 3260-R On approval of the program for the privatization of federal property and the main directions of privatization of federal property for 2020–2022 // GUARANTOR – Legislation of the Russian Federation, analytics, comments, practice. (Date of access: 04.01.2022/XNUMX/XNUMX)). Privatization has two very important consequences.

Firstly, it leads to the division of equal people into oligarchs and everyone else.

Secondly, it was for the sake of privatization that the USSR was divided into fifteen independent republics.

As S. Kara-Murza writes (Order of the Government of the Russian Federation dated December 31, 2019 No. 3260-r On approval of the program for the privatization of federal property and the main directions of privatization of federal property for 2020–2022 // GUARANTOR – Legislation of the Russian Federation, analytics, comments, practice. (Date of access: 04.01.2022/XNUMX/XNUMX)):

“Public property was the economic basis and condition of the Union (the qualities of the union, Soviet and socialist were mutually determined). Privatization of industry was impossible without dividing the Union, and vice versa, dividing the common property was immediately bound to create interethnic contradictions.”

In other words, all the republics of the USSR were closely connected within the framework of a single planned economy (Kossov V.V. Inter-industry balance. M: “Economy”, 1966. 224 pp.; Nekrasov N.N. Economy of the USSR - an interconnected national economic complex. M.: Publishing house "Znanie", 1973. 64 p.), and this economic connection united them into a single whole stronger than any legal laws.

However, during the restoration of capitalism by the renegade communists, this economic connection was destroyed. On the other hand, the renegade communists wanted to get rid of competitors for the privatization of the most lucrative enterprises of the socialist economy. Which predetermined their division of the USSR into fifteen independent republics.

Thus, the plan for the restoration of capitalism in the USSR was successfully implemented. In some cases, events did not go well for the organizers. For example, during the abolition of Article 6 of the USSR Constitution, when the Congress of People's Deputies refused to raise the question of its abolition, and M. S. Gorbachev himself had to do this. But ultimately, the congress approved the option proposed by M. S. Gorbachev.

Or in the event of the adoption of the new constitution of B. N. Yeltsin, which the Supreme Council refused to accept.

It was necessary to organize an armed uprising, after which a new constitution allowing the exploitation of man by man was adopted.

This suggests that the renegades’ plans were multivariate, that is, they provided different options for achieving their goal. And also that they had reliable support in the law enforcement agencies.

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  1. +11
    24 January 2024 04: 54
    This suggests that the renegades’ plans were multivariate, that is, they provided different options for achieving their goal. And also that they had reliable support in law enforcement agencies.

    Without the support of the KGB, the Armed Forces and the Ministry of Internal Affairs, this entire gang would hardly have been able to shoot up the White House in Moscow.
    It should be noted that the first step on the path to capitalism and the disappearance of goods from store shelves was the emergence of legalized speculation (the same cooperatives), when products were bought wholesale at state prices and sold retail at cooperative prices. This was very noticeable in the sales of alcohol and tobacco...
    * * *
    How quickly two scoundrels were able to destroy socialism in a single country cannot be said, but how many gigantic efforts the current government is making to deepen and expand the exploitation of people in our country and embellish the speculative principle of the bourgeois economy defies imagination.
    No matter how hard she tries, neither the economy, nor education, nor agriculture have developed, and the country is shaken by the lack of population growth, all sorts of manipulations with prices for goods and services, rising without any control or explanation. And most importantly, this situation will not change as long as the power of the bourgeoisie exists in the country, as long as the Mausoleum is disguised and as long as the EBN center stands.
    1. +10
      24 January 2024 05: 08
      Quote: ROSS 42

      Without the support of the KGB, the Armed Forces and the Ministry of Internal Affairs, this entire gang would hardly have been able to shoot up the White House in Moscow.

      Well, the KGB appointed Bakatin to the highest post of leadership of this organization... this renegade leaked many KGB secrets to the Americans (*would hang him in public in the square for all the acts he committed)... including the brilliant wiretapping of the US Embassy in Moscow... amazing but the gangrene of betrayal of the country came from the depths of the top leadership of the state... you can never blindly trust the Kremlin leaders... they can easily sell, surrender or frame... the fish, as they say, always rots from the head.
      1. +1
        24 January 2024 05: 35
        .a fish, as they say, always rots from the head.

        that's for sure, but you have to understand that a dead (!) fish rots from the head...
    2. +12
      24 January 2024 05: 11
      Quote: ROSS 42
      while the Mausoleum is being camouflaged and while the EBN center is standing.

      The mausoleum, as a symbol of Socialism and the EBN-center, as a symbol of the current feudal-bratkovsky capitalism.
    3. +1
      24 January 2024 05: 18
      Quote: ROSS 42
      Without the support of the KGB, the Armed Forces and the Ministry of Internal Affairs, this entire gang would hardly have been able to shoot up the White House in Moscow.

      They were the ones who shot him
      1. +4
        24 January 2024 17: 08
        They were the ones who shot him
        The Moscow Region was shot by its court divisions - Tamanskaya and Kantemirovskaya, which in 2022 deserted the Sumerians so much that they left them with a serviceable T-90.
    4. +12
      24 January 2024 08: 20
      Quote: ROSS 42
      How quickly two scoundrels were able to destroy socialism

      Socialism was destroyed not by “two scoundrels,” but by a whole army of enemies, both within the country and abroad. Everything was thought out to the smallest detail, the subversive work was carried out for decades, one might say that it never stopped...
      1. +2
        24 January 2024 08: 29
        Quote: Doccor18
        Socialism was destroyed not by “two scoundrels,” but by an entire army of enemies, both within the country and abroad.

        Do you consider me a first-grade student at a parochial school?
        Lenin and Stalin did not fire a single shot at a living person, but how many dogs were hung on them... Exactly "these two scoundrels"!!! Because the signatures on documents (decrees) belong to them...
        What little things were thought about there and by whom is not important now. The main thing is who accepted the passing banner of the bourgeois speculative economy from the hands of the last scoundrel, drunkard and thief and continued to preserve these “liberal values” along with ensuring the security of the clans...
        1. +6
          24 January 2024 08: 34
          Quote: ROSS 42
          Do you consider me a first-grade student at a parochial school?

          Why did you decide that?
          Quote: ROSS 42
          What little things were thought about there and by whom - it doesn’t matter now

          This is precisely what is important. Only this is important - to understand the root of the problem, who are the true culprits of the huge Soviet tragedy, and not hiss at the Judas-performers, we have all seen and know them, but they are just pawns in someone else’s game...
          1. +1
            24 January 2024 08: 40
            Quote: Doccor18
            This is precisely what is important.

            It’s so interesting with you... Well, they knew that Chubais’ department had a shortage of about 4 rubles... Well, you saw with what frenzy this one privatized and built parasitic offices over manufacturing enterprises - SO WHAT???
            RAVEN TO RAVEN...
            1. +3
              24 January 2024 08: 49
              Quote: ROSS 42
              It's so interesting with you.

              hi

              Quote: ROSS 42
              Well we knew

              You have famously flown 30 years into the future, but even this is not so important. Who knew? Who imagined that this would happen? They couldn’t help but predict that it would all end like this. And then what? Was this pre-orchestrated? This is where the fun begins...

              Quote: ROSS 42
              RAVEN TO RAVEN...

              It may well be, but apparently some people should know the raven by sight...
  2. +5
    24 January 2024 05: 03
    Everything is true, but probably the author also needed to talk about the last congress of the CPSU
    1. +8
      24 January 2024 05: 14
      There is so much to talk about that there is not enough space on the site. Here’s an aspect (for example) of how officers left the USSR Armed Forces and the continuity of generations was broken when a newly-minted lieutenant learned everything through his own trial and error experience...
  3. +4
    24 January 2024 05: 12
    So, if the collective and individual Abramovichs and Berezovskys and Chubais were only allowed to sell flowers, produce candies and smoked sausage in accordance with GOST, and create enterprises for sewing clothes and producing shoes, toilet paper, furniture, etc., but access to strategic and national the property of the subsoil, plants, factories, lands, forests, etc. would have been closed to them, then at least there would have been no plunder of the country. And therefore, when they rubbed their eyes in the Gorbachev-Yeltsin governments and saw how much the people in the country lacked, then from ignorance, from lack of education, from horror that everything was beyond the plan and it turned out that there was none of this, they urgently called in these swindlers Chubais and Berezovskys always already on duty “on watch” - they say, give us capitalism urgently and here you have plants, factories, mineral resources, pipelines, etc. for this. And they immediately announced to everyone that if capitalism does not happen urgently, then a civil war will happen and those who do not support the advent of capitalism will be to blame for this. And among those who did not support there could be a million simple, ordinary communist workers at factory machines and SA officers in units and garrisons. But since after the Second World War it was drummed into our heads every day, and rightly so, IF THERE WAS NO WAR, ordinary communist workers and officers in military units accepted responsibility, even though the country would not be pushed into a civil war.
    By the way, everything would have been different if Andropovsky and his heirs were caught by the KGB in time and those who needed it.
    1. +5
      24 January 2024 05: 20
      Quote: north 2
      By the way, everything would have been different if Andropovsky and his heirs were caught in time by the KGB

      So these same mice turned out to be senior party workers. How could they be caught?
      1. +3
        24 January 2024 05: 27
        Quote: Dutchman Michel
        So these same mice turned out to be senior party workers. How could they be caught?

        Has anything changed today? Whoever you touch is either a former communist, or a Komsomol worker, or some other figure of the All-Union Central Council of Trade Unions or a representative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. They fled abroad at the first opportunity, leaving behind the guarantors of their comfortable existence, guarding the hastily concocted registers of shareholders of the Soviet legacy...
        1. +2
          24 January 2024 07: 27
          Quote: ROSS 42
          Has anything changed today?

          That's the thing, nothing wink
      2. +4
        24 January 2024 17: 11
        So these same mice turned out to be senior party workers. How could they be caught?
        Naturally, no way, because Khrushchev Kukuruzny abolished KGB control over the CPSU.
        1. +4
          24 January 2024 18: 55
          Quote: Aviator_
          .... Khrushchev Kukuruzny abolished KGB control over the CPSU.

          And then, the nomenklatura became a “thing in itself” and social elevators stopped
        2. +2
          25 January 2024 04: 02
          Quote: Aviator_
          Khrushchev Kukuruzny abolished KGB control over the CPSU

          However, undercover KGB officers worked in the CPSU Central Committee. It was called the active reserve
          1. +2
            25 January 2024 08: 10
            However, undercover KGB officers worked in the CPSU Central Committee. It was called the active reserve
            The result of the work of this reserve was clearly evident in 1991. If you read Kryuchkov’s memoirs (2 volumes), then in the first volume there is an autobiography, and in the second there is whining on the topic “why didn’t I do anything.”
            1. +2
              25 January 2024 08: 32
              Quote: Aviator_
              The result of the work of this reserve was clearly evident in 1991

              The KGB simply could not direct the members of the Politburo and the secretaries of the CPSU Central Committee, who started this perestroika.

              Quote: Aviator_
              If you have read Kryuchkov's memoirs

              I read the memoirs. Nothing new, classic memoirs - there are only assholes all around, only me - d'Artagnan wink
              1. 0
                25 January 2024 08: 38
                The KGB simply could not tell the members of the Politburo and the secretaries of the CPSU Central Committee
                That's right, the key word is "couldn't." But before Khrushchev Kukuruzny, she could. And most importantly, then there was someone to report to; naturally, the answer for slander was severe.
                1. +1
                  25 January 2024 08: 43
                  Quote: Aviator_
                  That's right, the key word is "couldn't." And before Khrushchev Kukuruzny could

                  As for Khrushch, as you call him, Kukuruzny, and after him, all KGB reports were made directly to the General Secretary. And this same Secretary General gave the Committee instructions on what and how to do. On YouTube, look for an interview with V. Semichastny, who headed the KGB during Khrushchev’s time
                  1. +2
                    25 January 2024 08: 56
                    Were there any purges of the party apparatus under Kukuruzny (except for the case of “and Shepilov who joined them”?). There were global purges. But both under Khrushchev and under the deeply respected Leonid Ilyich, the maximum punishment was exile as ambassador to Mongolia or leadership of the Soviet Women's Committee. The Chairman of the Presidium of the Supreme Council of the Uzbek SSR, Yadgar Sadykovna Nasriddinova, was sent to this position after the nationalist Sabbath in Tashkent at the Pakhtakor stadium on April 04.04.1969, XNUMX, her son took an active part there.
    2. +2
      24 January 2024 13: 11
      Quote: North 2
      So, if the collective and individual Abramovichs and Berezovskys and Chubais were only allowed to sell flowers, produce candies and smoked sausage in accordance with GOST, and create enterprises for sewing clothes and producing shoes, toilet paper, furniture, etc., but access to strategic and national the property of the subsoil, plants, factories, lands, forests, etc. would be closed to them........

      And that's what it said in the beginning. That's what I remember. Some relatives about this.
      And then other relatives suddenly said that they had MPs in their “mailboxes”! And then ----- SP!
      THIS is what turned out to be chaos and betrayal! Did anyone think about this then? Don't know.
  4. ada
    +7
    24 January 2024 05: 23
    Capitalism! Forgive us for everything... and save us!

    The characteristic inscription on the poster... So what? Did capitalism save you? Judging by the appearance of the “carrier”, I think it’s not very good. And soon he came to stupidly rob, and now to kill.
    What about my son and the Poles?
  5. +1
    24 January 2024 07: 59
    It's hard to find a black cat...

    The socialist economy collapsed due to poor management, and malice, if there was any, did not play a significant role. Poor governance was due to the fact that the political system became inadequate to the new situation, when it became impossible to ensure not only growth, but also the current level of welfare.

    Under conditions of fixed prices, economic problems manifested themselves not in rising prices, but in the disappearance of goods from shelves.

    The political system in those conditions was supposed to provide the economy with managerial personnel, but it did not, either from an ideological or a professional point of view.

    When the political system does not function, the role of the individual grows enormously, but here it was simply unlucky, and twice - the weak Gorbachev at the head of the central government and the popular and charismatic Yeltsin at the head of the destructive forces.

    I don’t think that Gorbachev wanted to destroy the USSR, he was simply out of place, like, for example, Nicholas 2, the main culprit for the collapse of the Russian Empire.

    An objective difficulty can be considered the fact that socialism was being built for the first time, no one knew its mechanisms in practice, and the theory was too general and untested.

    Alas. Now socialism is impossible and will be impossible for many years - the idea has suffered greatly, if not completely lost.
    1. +2
      24 January 2024 11: 27
      Quote: S.Z.
      but here it was simply unlucky, and 2 times - the weak Gorbachev at the head of the central government and the popular and charismatic Yeltsin at the head of the destructive forces.

      Well said.
      That is, show the finger to the crowd, they are a crowd, and they will go into ecstasy, and then shout something at the same time -------- down with the planned economy, land for the peasants, currency for the broad masses, factories for the workers, selling vodka from 8-00, etc.
      Quote: S.Z.
      socialism was being built for the first time, no one knew its mechanisms in practice, and the theory was too general and untested.

      Well, Andropov stated that...... we ourselves don’t know what we built
      1. +2
        24 January 2024 11: 43
        At turning points in history, when the people become direct actors, oratory skills are often most important. Examples can be found in the French and Russian revolutions, in our recent past. In calmer times, people's opinions are subject to constant and systematic pressure; personal oratory abilities are not so important.
        1. +3
          24 January 2024 12: 10
          Quote: S.Z.
          At turning points in history, when the people become direct actors, oratorical abilities are often

          This is because demons crawl out of all the cracks - the environment is very favorable for them.
          1. +2
            24 January 2024 13: 07
            Using Occam's razor, we can say that there is no need to involve otherworldly forces in explaining these processes; they can be explained without new entities.
      2. +3
        24 January 2024 12: 51
        Greetings, Vladimir! wink For example, I do not agree that “socialism is impossible” laughing And not just me! Let's turn to "The Opposite". lol
        proof by contradiction

        If socialism were so impossible, then why suddenly at the recent Davos there suddenly began chatter about socialism and abuse of it, with explanations of how harmful socialism is for poor people? Moreover, this is one way or another in different plots. Detailed translations have not yet appeared online, but, of course, they will appear.
        At the previous Davos they frightened poor people with everything - overpopulation, COVID-19, the environment. People were afraid, of course, but somehow unreal. recourse Now we are talking about socialism. Of course, it would be important to read in what context, let’s wait. wassat And Argentine Javier, like a US puppet, was branding something....
        1. -1
          24 January 2024 13: 18
          Quote: Reptiloid
          proof by contradiction

          I looked, out of interest, to see what proof is by contradiction.
          This is some kind of dregs, Dima, you shouldn’t fill your head with such abstruse theories.
          1. +1
            24 January 2024 13: 25
            Well, Vladimir lol You studied and lived under socialism. Even if not in the CPSU. Will you really say, as at Davos, that we should be afraid of socialism, but there is no capitalism and globalism? That only the world's richest will save everyone and help everyone? I didn’t expect that from you, honestly hiAbidna crying
            1. ada
              +1
              25 January 2024 05: 51
              Quote: Reptiloid
              ... like at Davos, too, that we should be afraid of socialism, but not capitalism and globalism? That only the world's richest will save everyone and help everyone? ...

              No, it’s different, people there are confused, because they know (from various sources) that in order to reach the level of readiness of the national states of Western countries (from among those planned for priority escalation development activities) for VC at the regional level and the potential to interregional in order to initiate MV, it is necessary to carry out a mandatory preparatory period with the reform of the state system to the level of the “military socialism” type, well, that is, to create conditions and carry out a number of social reforms that ensure the growth of the military and economic potential of these countries with the involvement of the largest number of people in the process. Well, like Germany in the 30s and the USSR (as written in their strategy). Here. And there, as if the USA should have already done something, and Sullivan mumbled with his mouth and made a smart face and ... - and nothing request and if nothing, then what? what And many have already paid for shelters on the islands, yachts, submarines....
              1. 0
                25 January 2024 07: 50
                Quote: ada
                ..... The USA should have already done something and Sullivan mumbled with his mouth and made a smart face and ... - and nothing request and if nothing, then what? what And many have already paid for shelters on the islands, yachts, submarines....

                good ah well done! They deceived me again!! HAHAHA!! Especially about shelters. Well, I like it
                sorry bro, it didn't work out request

                Information about Davos is somehow slower this year. Those years are faster and more. Especially about the carbon tax and feeding worms and others.
                I’m trying to find out more about the “Davos scandal,” but somehow it’s not working. Has the forum really collapsed? Oh! Oh! How so? lol wassat
                And it’s unclear. In the past, ours, as they said, did not sign anything. On Ozone, some food has already appeared recourse really, as Manturov said more than a year ago
                the black lion must come
      3. +4
        24 January 2024 17: 17
        So, Andropov stated that ...... we ourselves don’t know what we built
        He said everything correctly. Only he was already old and sick. After Khrushchev Kukuruzny, the theory of socialism did not receive any development at all. Even Khrushchev noted his crazy theory, and “dear Leonid Ilyich” - some kind of unsteady “developed socialism” instead. to get Stalin’s work for 1952 and see what can be applied from there at the present moment. And so everything turned out according to Stalin - “Without theory, we are dead.”
        1. 0
          24 January 2024 19: 03
          Quote: Aviator_
          .... “dear Leonid Ilyich” - with some kind of unsteady “developed socialism” instead. to get Stalin’s work for 1952 and see what can be applied from there at the present moment. And so everything turned out according to Stalin - “Without theory, we are dead.”

          Of course, you know, Sergei, that communism was planned for 1980. But by this same year they wanted developed socialism in all socialist countries. Who knows, maybe this is what puzzled the West? And they began to demonstrate how well they were doing and how quickly they were destroying the USSR.
          1. +3
            24 January 2024 20: 10
            But by this same year they wanted developed socialism in all socialist countries.
            Well, in Hungary there was fully developed socialism. And in the GDR too. But in the late 80s, young East Germans with no brains of their own tore down the Berlin Wall. This is what propaganda does, but there was no counter-propaganda, since this task was carried out by figures known to you.
            1. +1
              24 January 2024 20: 22
              Quote: Aviator_
              Well, in Hungary there was fully developed socialism.

              Did not know. That is, after the 1956 putsch, they somehow built socialism, and did not “decay.” Is that why they are like this now?
              Quote: Aviator_
              in the late 80s, young East Germans with no brains of their own tore down the Berlin Wall...

              And around this time, a little earlier, young West Germans, some of them, began to commit suicide, ashamed of the atrocities of their ancestors.... the English reformatting program somehow worked, probably
              1. +4
                24 January 2024 20: 41
                Did not know. That is, after the 1956 putsch they somehow built socialism
                Yes, sure. They had exemplary agriculture based on cooperatives, all our grocery stores were filled with Globus products (lecho, cucumbers, tomatoes, green peas), Hungarian chickens for 3 rubles 40 kopecks, and much more. There were also a lot of Bulgarian products, but personally I liked the Hungarian ones better. In addition, the famous Ikarus bus plant, which was deliberately bankrupted under capitalism. And even now they somehow don’t attack Russia en masse; they probably saw what these half-baked Salashists (Nazis) were preparing for them in 1956. But the same cannot be said about the Poles, they are a vindictive nation. Vile people. During the war, my father strongly disliked the Poles.
        2. +1
          26 January 2024 09: 09
          Quote: Aviator_
          So, Andropov stated that ...... we ourselves don’t know what we built
          He said everything correctly. Only he was already old and sick.....

          hi I saw this quote. Just when did he say this? Shortly before death? I'll find out in a year recourse After all, it turns out that we were talking about the society of that very time?
          decay was already happening from within, but the residents did not yet know....
          1. +1
            26 January 2024 09: 47
            Of course, he said this when he ruled the country. I don’t remember exactly, but it seems that after global inspections of labor discipline, which he organized when he came to power. Democrats still say with horror that for some time there were checks of the passports of people crowding in lines during working hours. People can understand - during off-hours the choice in stores was, to put it mildly, poor.
            1. +1
              26 January 2024 13: 04
              Quote: Aviator_
              .... after global inspections of labor discipline, which he organized when he came to power. Democrats still say with horror that for some time there were checks of the passports of people crowding in lines during working hours. .

              That is, approximately the time that corresponds to the film PROKHINDIADA, which is exactly what I understand. Nothing surprising. This is no longer socialism, in my opinion. The power of traders and cronyism.
              And it was precisely the post-war period, although not for long, that there was real socialism. Until Khrushchev's cracks spread.
              1. +2
                26 January 2024 14: 07
                It was the traders who then began to gradually advance, forgetting that they should serve the population as much as possible, and not themselves personally. In Moscow, shops on duty that were open until 24 hours disappeared. And in Zhukovsky in 1972, the central 30 Gastronom worked until 22 o'clock, and a couple of years later for some reason it began to work until 21 o'clock. I'm not even talking about the deteriorating assortment. I then had the impression that we, the buyers, were only disturbing the traders; they were much more comfortable without us.
                1. +1
                  26 January 2024 14: 49
                  Quote: Aviator_
                  It was the traders who then began to gradually advance, forgetting that they should serve the population as much as possible, and not themselves personally.

                  That's it
                  nomenclature has become a thing in itself

                  Only here there is no nomenclature anymore,
                2. +1
                  26 January 2024 15: 19
                  Quote: Aviator_
                  It was the traders who then began to gradually advance, forgetting that they should serve the population as much as possible, and not themselves personally.

                  Aha
                  nomenclature has become a thing in itself

                  Only with traders it’s even worse. These were servants of the nomenklatura, and they, self-appointed, controlled literally everything ---- from toilet paper. I remember something from that reality, much after Andropov, of course.
    2. man
      +3
      24 January 2024 12: 11
      popular and charismatic Yeltsin at the head of destructive forces.
      You forgot to add, “at the same time stupid and a heavy drinker.” For all his thirst for power, even he was periodically horrified when he noticed what had happened. I remember...
      1. 0
        24 January 2024 13: 32
        Quote: mann
        popular and charismatic Yeltsin at the head of destructive forces.
        You forgot to add, “at the same time stupid and a heavy drinker.” With all his thirst for power, even he was periodically horrified when he noticed what had happened. I remember...


        This was forgiven him. Gorbachev did not drink, but he did no less.
  6. +1
    24 January 2024 12: 45
    Chaos came from the fact that at the top everyone wanted to get their own personal volosts with personal slaves inhabiting them. There were examples of correct gradual entry into the Western market, such as China, Korea and many of them, it was possible to understand the basis from where. But everyone wanted complete freedom, they couldn’t even sleep or eat.
  7. +2
    24 January 2024 13: 03
    I liked the article. Respect to the author. For me, its value is that the article explains changes in legislation in sufficient detail and clearly, which was difficult for me recourse At the same time, in my opinion, it would be necessary to add that the implementation, issuance of loans, and the work of cooperatives began to happen somehow very quickly. Which suggests that the entire legislative framework was created much in advance. By whom, when?
    suddenly, out of nowhere, a private owner quickly appeared!

    And they quickly appeared at different levels. Somehow too quickly, given the inherent inertia. And these new private owners immediately, I think, began to oppose themselves to socialism
    1. +1
      24 January 2024 17: 20
      I liked the article. Respect to the author.
      And all because, Dmitry, in his article he concentrated a number of provisions from the books of Sergei Georgievich Kara-Murza, whose books you cannot read for some reason.
      1. +1
        24 January 2024 18: 49
        Have a nice evening, Sergey hi! When I started writing a comment, I wanted to write that I would read the article a couple more times ---- and everything would fit into my head. Maybe. But this thought is gone request .... And then I thought, sorry, it’s good that I didn’t start Kara-Murza... after all
        The author has concentrated a number of provisions

        That is, I did a certain part of the work. I don't know if I could do it. I doubt it. After all, education is completely different.... many have the advantage that during the USSR they studied the History of the CPSU. Works of Lenin
        1. 0
          24 January 2024 20: 05
          After all, education is completely different.... many have the advantage that during the USSR they studied the History of the CPSU. Works of Lenin
          There is one former professional propagandist here, he read and passed a lot of exams on the classics of Marxism-Leninism. And it didn’t help him in terms of clearing his head. So read, it’s not “Materialism and Empirio-Criticism” (in my opinion, Lenin’s most brilliant work), but Sergei Georgievich’s is about life in the USSR, something that you have repeatedly been interested in. Kara-Murza wrote for everyone; he does not ask for educational diplomas from readers.
          1. +1
            24 January 2024 20: 34
            recourse recourse you know, Sergei, sometimes it seems to me that indeed, those grotesque figures that Kochetov used, they are absolutely real, they really were the top of the CPSU at the end of the USSR, for example, Galina too, and the propagandists too....
  8. -1
    24 January 2024 13: 49
    There is no end to rehashing the past in circles...
    This is also our big problem - we spend unnecessary effort on “like analysis”, when in fact it is not analysis - it is necrofetishism in its purest form. Everything has passed, everything of the past is “now” and there is “ahead.”

    There is only one thing you need to know about the past - just like that, without pretentiousness, the entire gilded system can get its pants dirty, and then you won’t be able to find the ends, and your investments in the common cause are no longer yours, but “the bourgeois uncle’s.”
    We need to draw conclusions from this - in my opinion, these are the conclusions of the priority of the personal over the state, because this is not the first time our state has dirty its pants like this, leaving people without guarantees. The system has squandered its credibility and rights to active paternalism - but not everyone has understood this yet, and continues to look into the mouth of the bronze god.
    We have made conclusions - and we move on, thinking about the future - so that this funny nonsense and festival of irresponsibility does not happen again.
  9. +2
    24 January 2024 14: 44
    hi That’s interesting, dear Author spoke about 3 articles. Few. Because it is rarely remembered that not only the USSR was destroyed, but the whole world socialist mistema!. What was more important for the West? A single country or a system? At the same time CMEA and the Warsaw Pact. That is, developments have appeared that have become too dangerous for the West?
    In general, the site had good articles by Podymov, just like what happened in the socialist countries. But there could be more articles like this. And they were about another time, earlier. Start of cracks
  10. -2
    24 January 2024 15: 12
    Quote: Knell Wardenheart
    we spend unnecessary effort on “like analysis”, when in fact this is not analysis - this is necrofetishism in its purest form

    + 1000!!!
    Moreover, these “we” are mainly readers of the site
    1. +2
      24 January 2024 15: 32
      Maybe not hi It must be taken into account that the destruction of the USSR is a topic about which I, like others, probably do not speak out more than on the site. It is absolutely certain that no one spoke either at work or at home, except for my grandmother, who has not been with us for a long time. True, at the beginning of the century ---- it was. I heard it several times, but it was more like the desperation of a person in a difficult situation.
      1. 0
        24 January 2024 15: 54
        Maybe you’re right, but every 2-3 weeks “military review” publishes similar articles where people over 50 reflect (!) on the past, which cannot be returned... IMHO, we must live in the present and look forward.
        1. +1
          24 January 2024 16: 23
          I still have to wait a little until I turn 40. But on my own, I was thinking about it. After all, I was a preschooler in the USSR. And we all at school expected that we would be Octobrists and pioneers. And the adults dodged and lied about what happened later... and that was a trauma. And it didn’t even occur to me to talk about anything like that then.
          We all live in the present, whether we want it or not, but it’s good if there is an opportunity and an audience where we can talk about some personal thoughts.
          every 2-3 weeks

          It is now. And 5-6 years ago they sometimes talked about this, rarely
          1. +5
            24 January 2024 17: 24
            And we all at school expected that we would be Octobrists and pioneers.
            It’s absolutely true that in the early 60s we were waiting for admission to October, because it was a sign of belonging to the System, the best and fairest. We were admitted to 1st grade after the first quarter, on November 7th. For me personally, it was 1962, the year of enormous space successes for the country.
  11. 0
    27 January 2024 16: 49
    A note off-topic...
    In the photo for the article there are two posters, on the far poster there is the inscription “A faithful Leninist cannot create a legal state as A COLOR-BLIND CANNOT CREATE A WORK OF PAINTING"...
    I’ll just remind you of one work of art that I could create and color blind - such as "Black square" Kazimir Malevich (was not colorblind), but in essence he has the picture black and white and very famous.
  12. 0
    28 January 2024 16: 46
    It’s strange to read an article on a bourgeois resource about the bourgeois counter-revolution in the USSR. It’s very interesting, where is the gendarmerie looking?
  13. 0
    28 January 2024 17: 25
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    You should never blindly trust Kremlin leaders

    Vladimir Ilyich, the fact that Ulyanov (Lenin) would not be trusted either?
  14. 0
    28 January 2024 17: 51
    Quote: ROSS 42
    The main thing is who accepted the challenge banner of bourgeois speculative economics from the hands of the last scoundrel, drunkard and thief

    But what, our people in Russia are already so weak-willed, stupid and weak that all they can do is watch the transfer of the banner from one to another? Aren't you ashamed in front of your grandfathers and great-grandfathers?
  15. 0
    28 January 2024 18: 28
    Quote: Aviator_
    Naturally, no way, because Khrushchev Kukuruzny abolished KGB control over the CPSU.

    When did it happen that the state security would control the party? It was the KGB officers who were always under the personal control of the party, and not vice versa!
  16. 0
    28 January 2024 18: 44
    Quote: bober1982
    But Andropov stated that ...... we ourselves don’t know what we built

    For this, Andropov could have been put up against the wall. Still contra!
  17. 0
    28 January 2024 19: 01
    Quote: ada
    war socialism

    my friend, what kind of war socialism? During the First World War, the countries of the notorious West completely managed with state monopoly capitalism, which is what Lenin actually wrote about. Read, at least sometimes, the classics of Marxism, supporters of the USSR!