Army boots or boots: a debate for decades

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Army boots or boots: a debate for decades

The debate about which is better for soldiers, boots or boots, continues to this day, for decades in a row.

Soviet troops wore boots until the very end of their existence. At the same time, most Western armies were equipped with boots back in the First World War. In fairness, it is worth noting that the latter were very different from modern ones.



Nowadays, the armed forces of almost all countries, including Russia, have switched to boots (high boots), but disputes about which is better sometimes still arise.

However, no matter what arguments in favor of this or that shoe opponents bring, the decision was and is made only on the basis of one parameter - economic.

The thing is that before the advent of tarpaulin, boots in production were much more expensive than boots. True, boots were not particularly suitable for the army at that time. They did not have a high top, which made them uncomfortable for marching, and indeed for being in difficult weather conditions.

But the boots were cheap to produce and could be mass produced.

This was the case until the Second World War, when the development of the chemical industry made it possible to produce cheap tarpaulin boots. Yes, these shoes were uncomfortable. But high-top boots were much more expensive and it was unprofitable to produce them for the army.

Meanwhile, the Americans solved the problem with high boots in a very unique way during World War II - they produced this element separately. It was easier and cheaper that way.

Full-fledged high-top boots, which we can see today in the equipment of soldiers of almost all armies of the world, appeared much later. Again, thanks to the development of industry and the significant reduction in the cost of their production.

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  1. +16
    13 January 2024 14: 37
    ***
    “Wash your boots in the Indian Ocean!” - Doesn't sound...
    ***
  2. +4
    13 January 2024 14: 39
    significantly reduce the cost of their production.
    Good American boots - 150-180 pounds sad .
    1. +9
      13 January 2024 14: 54
      Quote: Bolt Cutter
      significantly reduce the cost of their production.
      Good American boots - 150-180 pounds sad .

      Hello Alexey, good afternoon, Comrades!
      This morning the temperature dropped to minus 27 Celsius. If you asked me what I would like to be in the trench at night. The answer is simple: felt boots or burkas. Moreover, today I walked 9 km in high fabric ankle boots with woolen socks. In spring and autumn, wear tarpaulin boots with foot wraps; in summer, wear sneakers or low ankle boots. A long time ago I even practiced wearing windings in the oisu. So my opinion is that there should be different shoes for every occasion and weather, even in war.
      1. +7
        13 January 2024 15: 08
        for every occasion and weather
        Good afternoon Vladislav! American (made in USA) Corcoran wore well at -25 and +30. I have never seen more comfortable shoes. French aircraft technicians' boots are also good, but only in the autumn-winter period it is a little hot in the summer, although the feet do not sweat. Desert Bates (USA) are amazingly good in the heat (and just in warm weather) and when walking on sand, but in winter they give in to slush. Something like this.
        1. -2
          13 January 2024 16: 50
          . French aircraft technicians' boots are also good, but only in the autumn-winter period it is a little hot in the summer, although the feet do not sweat.
          what ...?
          1. +5
            13 January 2024 20: 04
            Quote: Aerodrome
            what ...?

            What bothers you? For example, on the American Belleville website, you can buy different combat boots - for the Marines, for the Navy, for the Army, for the Air Force, and there are also ones for the deck. Each has its own characteristics, which are in the description
            https://www.bellevilleboot.com/index.php?pg=4&l=product_list&c=1
  3. +13
    13 January 2024 14: 39
    When I was drafted into the army, I wore boots 24 hours a day... I can’t even imagine what my legs would have turned into, not to mention my socks, if I had walked around in boots so much...
    1. -3
      13 January 2024 15: 04
      Quote: mc1aren
      being conscripted into the army, he wore boots 24 hours a day

      And slept without taking off his boots? Maybe we should minus 8 hours?
      wink
      1. +16
        13 January 2024 15: 07
        it happened without taking it off... and even more... and not for eight, but for a couple of hours, if you end up on guard for a couple of weeks, or even more... socks are not a footcloth - you can’t rewind them to dry ones...
        1. 0
          13 January 2024 17: 59
          Quote: mc1aren
          socks are not foot wraps - you can’t rewind them into dry ones...

          Don’t explain to me what army boots are... I’ve worn them out enough, more than a dozen pairs...
        2. 0
          15 February 2024 22: 00
          On guard duty for a couple of weeks? This is a complete mockery of UGiKS
      2. +19
        13 January 2024 16: 52
        Foot wraps are universal. You rewind your socks the other way around, and your feet are dry and warm again. For the life of me, this was a brilliant thing.
        1. +3
          14 January 2024 10: 48
          You can add one more important quality: foot wraps almost do not wear out; they are not socks. Before the collapse of the USSR, my friend from the Research Institute of Moscow Region gave me experimental boots. The ankle boots were nowhere near there. The entire squad wore them during recess to complete the obstacle course.
        2. +1
          15 January 2024 22: 20
          I agree. Foot wraps can be rewound on a clean surface (for the heel, of course) four times. Having a couple of spare foot wraps can double the conditional cleanliness. There are still a couple of kirzachs at the dacha, which I treat once a year with castor oil and foot wraps for them. Which, out of habit, I put on with a “parachute”.
      3. -1
        14 January 2024 16: 27
        Quote: ROSS 42
        And slept without taking off his boots? Maybe we should minus 8 hours?

        We had a paramedic - God bless him if he is alive! - he invented his own know-how: he wrote notes to some soldiers for their commanders: “The beginning of the development of a skin disease has been revealed. He needs to wear slippers for three days.” Voila! Outfits, formations - everything is on the side! Only a drying room and a dining room!
    2. 0
      13 January 2024 21: 39
      I can imagine what my legs would be like, not to mention my socks, if I walked around in boots so much...
      I remember the stories of experienced mountain tourists, they even had to sleep in their boots, sometimes hiding their feet with them in a backpack, because it was cold at night.
      Crossing a water obstacle strictly in boots (a mandatory requirement), when you catch a cold one in the parking lot, there is also no time to walk in comfortable warm slippers, just like in heavy rain. Some especially lucky people had to spend several days in them without taking them off.
      And if there are rescues, then forget about comfort altogether. When Safronov’s group incredibly disappeared on Gestol, people stood on their feet for more than a week during the search.
      By the way, it is for this reason that some of the best boots are mountain trekking boots. They are designed to last for some time.
    3. +5
      14 January 2024 21: 56
      In boots and socks??? I once tried to wear socks under boots - it’s impossible to walk, the socks wear off and my feet sweat and chafe very quickly... Under boots - only foot wraps, there’s nothing better.
      1. 0
        21 January 2024 00: 30
        Everyone has their own truth, their own experience. More than once I observed flyers who had slept through getting ready for morning exercises, some running around in socks, some even on bare feet (well, that’s how people have paws) and whatever. And for others, their legs just started to rot from just walking
  4. +3
    13 January 2024 14: 40
    Army boots or boots: a debate for decades

    What, again?! laughing
  5. +26
    13 January 2024 14: 43
    cheap tarpaulin boots. Yes, like that the shoes were uncomfortable.

    Boots, unlike other shoes, require knowing how to put them on. In addition, they cannot be worn with socks, but only with a footcloth, which you need to know how to wrap correctly. This experience has practically been lost. But if anyone knows how, then he knows that there are no better shoes in mud and slush.
    1. +14
      13 January 2024 15: 07
      Quote: Amateur
      But if anyone knows how, then he knows that there is no better shoe in mud and slush.

      In slush and mud, a pair of boots and a pair of foot wraps are better than a pair of combat boots and a pair of socks.
      1. +10
        13 January 2024 15: 14
        You can always cut a footcloth from whatever you have at hand. It is important
    2. -22
      13 January 2024 15: 09
      Are you wearing boots? What do you dress them in? In clothes, perhaps?
      1. +9
        13 January 2024 15: 34
        Are you wearing boots?

        1. Shoes (including boots) are WEARED, not dressed.
        2. Don't poke strangers. And then you can immediately see the level of rudeness.
    3. +1
      13 January 2024 15: 12
      be able to dress

      Or even wear
    4. +5
      13 January 2024 15: 25
      Quote: Amateur
      There are no better boots in mud and slush

      Rubber ones.
      1. +3
        13 January 2024 16: 34
        EVA boots can be worn not only in slush, but also in cold weather. In winter, they keep you warm just as well as felt boots, and they’re also lightweight.
        1. +9
          13 January 2024 17: 29
          Quote: Waterways 672
          EVA boots

          They are convenient, but very easily pierced with any twigs, after which they let water through.

          Quote: Waterways 672
          In winter they keep warm as well as felt boots

          Worse.
    5. +2
      14 January 2024 16: 33
      Quote: Amateur
      Boots, unlike other shoes, require knowing how to put them on. In addition, they cannot be worn with socks, but only with a footcloth, which you need to know how to wrap correctly. This experience has practically been lost. But if anyone knows how, then he knows that there are no better shoes in mud and slush.

      In our smoking room there was a stand with a jar of blacking. Unclean boots were severely punished, as were breeches without arrows. I can still draw arrows with two coins. And this despite the fact that I served at a point in the mountains...
  6. -13
    13 January 2024 14: 45
    Kirsa is better if you douse it with cold water 2 times a day.
    And boots and combat boots should be doused with cold water 3 times.
    Conclusion: endure the hardships and rigors of service.
    The heart of a mother is the basis of any Victory: Go son, win, come back.
  7. +12
    13 January 2024 14: 45
    Boots, boots. . . Felt boots! Felt boots are a thing. Sometimes you stood as a sentry, wrapped in a sheepskin sheepskin coat, wearing a fur hat with earflaps, wearing felt boots, and the frost was up to your ears! . . . fellow
    1. +7
      13 January 2024 14: 50
      Quote: Andrey Martov
      Boots, boots. . . Felt boots! Felt boots are a thing. Sometimes you stood as a sentry, wrapped in a sheepskin sheepskin coat, wearing a fur hat with earflaps, wearing felt boots, and the frost was up to your ears! . . . fellow

      slippers laughing
      Even American combat boots don’t roll against them wassat
      1. +4
        13 January 2024 15: 09
        A slipper skillfully launched like a boomerang is a secret weapon!
      2. +2
        13 January 2024 15: 25
        Quote from: nepunamemuk
        Quote: Andrey Martov
        Boots, boots. . . Felt boots! Felt boots are a thing. Sometimes you stood as a sentry, wrapped in a sheepskin sheepskin coat, wearing a fur hat with earflaps, wearing felt boots, and the frost was up to your ears! . . . fellow

        slippers laughing
        Even American combat boots don’t roll against them wassat

        Nailed 150 to the floor near the sofa!!! laughing
    2. +4
      13 January 2024 14: 59
      There’s only one problem with this: if you accidentally fall, you’ll get up on your own!
      1. 0
        13 January 2024 15: 17
        The whole problem is that those who invent and sew, and technologists like them, do not wear ankle boots or boots themselves (there are mostly women), and those who really need it, for example, the peoples of the north, sew their own shoes, in general Manufacturers and consumers do not intersect; they have different parallel realities. For example, for some reason ankle boots bend at the sole very difficult or do not bend at all, the sole itself is thick and there are lugs on it like the tread on the wheels of a tractor, you just want to knock the shoemaker on the head with the boot and ask why he does this, Not only do such boots catch dirt So they also increase the dimensions of the fighter’s height by almost 4 cm so that the poor guy hits his head in low rooms or in combat vehicles. and in general, a tall fighter is easier for the enemy to see and easier to hit
        And so, berets and boots are needed equally, but you have to do it wisely, and not anyhow
        1. 0
          14 January 2024 22: 00
          It is much easier to walk on a hard sole; you will get tired very quickly on a soft one.
    3. +4
      13 January 2024 15: 00
      Quote: andrey martov
      Boots, boots. . .

      As a child I had to wear soldier's boots with tapes, I liked them.
    4. +3
      13 January 2024 15: 31
      Yes, it's warm but you feel like a character from a movie
    5. +2
      13 January 2024 16: 56
      Quote: andrey martov
      Boots, boots. . . Felt boots! Felt boots are a thing.

      dry it in the field... yeah...
    6. +3
      14 January 2024 16: 38
      Quote: Andrey Martov
      Boots, boots. . . Felt boots! Felt boots are a thing. Sometimes you stood as a sentry, wrapped in a sheepskin sheepskin coat, wearing a fur hat with earflaps, wearing felt boots, and the frost was up to your ears! . . . fellow

      The sentry is a corpse, wrapped in a sheepskin coat, instructed to the point of tears, exposed to the cold, looking ahead to see if the guard is coming. laughing
    7. +4
      15 January 2024 09: 42
      "...Boots, boots... Felt boots! Felt boots are a thing..."
      Eh, obviously you haven’t read Tvardovsky!!! (or forgot). I'll try to quote from memory:
      "..Wait, comrade, why are you praising my felt boots.
      Let me report: Good. Where to dry?
      You can't dry them in a dugout. No, give me the boot.
      Yes, give me cloth foot wraps, then I am God.."
  8. +8
    13 January 2024 15: 14
    You can't play an accordion on your berets. laughing
    1. +2
      13 January 2024 16: 57
      Quote: vovochkarzhevsky
      You can't play an accordion on your berets. laughing

      Are you ready for demobilization? don't even think about it.
      1. 0
        13 January 2024 17: 04
        Are you ready for demobilization? don't even think about it.


        Yes, they’ve already kicked me out of retirement. And there was a time... laughing
    2. 0
      14 January 2024 16: 40
      Quote: vovochkarzhevsky
      You can't play an accordion on your berets. laughing

      Tint the hat and iron it on the rules, fluff the overcoat to the level of mohair and wrap the album in velvet. Yes - get aluminum letters for shoulder straps!
      1. 0
        14 January 2024 18: 26
        Tint the hat and iron it on the rules, fluff the overcoat to the level of mohair and wrap the album in velvet. Yes - get aluminum letters for shoulder straps!


        Flight schools have always had their own fashion. A hat with a pie, an overcoat to the toes.
  9. +7
    13 January 2024 15: 15
    For everyday wear or on the march, boots are of course better.
    But when going out in combat or quickly moving along an “intersection”, high boots, with foot fixation, are beyond competition...
  10. +7
    13 January 2024 15: 16
    Lowa ankle boots (pictured in the article) are the best, unless it’s completely cold. The sole is non-killing; thanks to the membrane, your feet do not get wet, and at the same time, they do not sweat. The foot is fixed perfectly. Now I only wear them when hiking, I forgot about boots. Warriors with SVO say that the chances of damaging (or losing) their legs are much lower in them than in ordinary ankle boots. But they are expensive
  11. +3
    13 January 2024 15: 28
    Boots with socks. If you have a dozen spare socks with you, then the boots, of course, are more comfortable. But if the socks are torn, then without them you won’t be able to wear your boots much.
    Boots mean foot wraps. If you know how to wrap them, everything will be fine. They don’t tear. If they get wet, they wring them out and dry them.
    1. +1
      13 January 2024 16: 35
      Last year I was looking for ankle boots for running in the winter, but other than those with thick, rigid soles I didn’t see them, I bought summer ones, narrow and long, 4 sizes longer, tore off the factory oak sole, sewed on the leather, glued soft micropores and made them shorter, but wider and now you can wear it with foot wraps if you wish, although without foot wraps with socks it’s not cold, in general, shoemakers are in their own little world on their own wave
      1. 0
        13 January 2024 20: 17
        When hunting in autumn and winter, only wear rubber boots.
    2. 0
      13 January 2024 16: 58
      Quote: Million
      Boots with socks. If you have a dozen spare socks with you, then boots, of course, are more comfortable.
      at the same time, a dozen insoles and anti-fungal remedies...
    3. +2
      14 January 2024 16: 45
      Quote: Million
      Boots mean foot wraps. If you know how to wrap them, everything will be fine. They don’t tear. If they get wet, they wring them out and dry them.

      At night, out of the frost, you would go into the barracks, hold on to the doorframe so that your legs wouldn’t give way from the aroma that hit you, you’d stand there and get used to it...
  12. +10
    13 January 2024 17: 26
    Boots are better. There are many arguments given here, but there is one more: in an emergency, you can’t jump into ankle boots, like boots. Even barefoot. The boots do not have lacing. But the boots, alas... I don’t know, I’ve served too long to speak categorically. But during military service, I wouldn’t trade my boots for ankle boots. When every second matters, to hell with the laces. In the end, ankle boots are the same boots. But with lacing. Lacing is a waste of time. And since I served not in a construction battalion, but in the Strategic Missile Forces of the USSR... No, I am for boots.
    1. +4
      13 January 2024 19: 46
      In general, I agree with you, I also grew up wearing boots.
      And there are a lot of tricks about lacing. While in the Caucasus, they taught me several lacing tricks, I liked the Israeli method better (that’s what it’s called) 10-15 seconds and you’re done.
    2. +6
      13 January 2024 21: 46
      When every second matters, to hell with the laces.
      This is when all sorts of demonstrative rises in alarm wink But when you have to jump through the ruins is a slightly different story.
      Only during the next holiwar they forgot that the infantry still rides on armor and many sit in sneakers. At the front, the Charter does not work; it has its own foundations.
  13. +3
    13 January 2024 18: 23
    A mine explosion tears off the lower limb precisely at the edge of the boot in 9 out of 10 tragic cases or at the edge of the thigh. Sneakers are best, but not very comme il faut in winter. Foot wraps can also be used in berets quite comfortably, and this is really better than socks, unless the socks are special, but the difference is in price!!!
  14. +2
    13 January 2024 18: 33
    Quote: ROSS 42
    Quote: mc1aren
    socks are not foot wraps - you can’t rewind them into dry ones...

    Don’t explain to me what army boots are... I’ve worn them out enough, more than a dozen pairs...

    Not noticeable at all, judging by the question...
    1. +2
      13 January 2024 18: 59
      However, about boots, it is known from history that the tsars walked around the palaces in boots, and Stalin walked around the Kremlin in boots and his entourage in boots, but they could have worn boots or slippers on the parquet floor, but no, give them boots. there is nothing in boots that is missing in shoes with laces.
      1. +2
        13 January 2024 21: 49
        However, about boots, it is known from history that kings walked around the palaces in boots
        History does not say anything that many soldiers in the Second World War fought in windings. Here some people write about the almost lost knowledge of winding footcloths, but for some reason they do not remember about the windings consigned to oblivion and their children's version onuki.
      2. +1
        19 February 2024 06: 25
        that the tsars walked around the palaces in boots, and Stalin walked around the Kremlin in boots

        Something tells me that their boots are not the same as those on the front line, both in price and in comfort, and were closer to women’s boots, because women don’t wear footcloths under their boots
      3. 0
        19 February 2024 06: 46
        that the tsars walked around the palaces in boots, and Stalin walked around the Kremlin in boots

        Something tells me that their boots are not the same as those on the front lines, both in price and in comfort, and were closer to women’s boots, women don’t wear foot wraps under their boots, I have winter ones made of oak patent leather with fur with a zipper, felt insole and where the yulosit was stuffed with pieces of felt and pieces of leather glued directly on top of the fur on the heel in layers, giving it an anatomical shape so that it wouldn’t yulosit and the socks wouldn’t tear, the feet fit perfectly as if they were concreted in them, at first they looked like they were too small, but then I wore them out, the socks didn’t tear, only thin ones with thick ones and they won’t fit, they feel very different from boots for the better
        1. 0
          19 February 2024 09: 25
          Royal and similar women's ones are slightly different from army ones
  15. 0
    13 January 2024 19: 16
    Boots and foot wraps definitely. I’m telling you as a person who went through all this.
    1. +3
      13 January 2024 19: 54
      I also spent my youth wearing boots, but in the Caucasus I realized the advantage of ankle boots; one of them does not allow pebbles and sand to get into the boot (especially with a high toe like gaiters) and it is more convenient to climb or jump on stones.
      1. +1
        13 January 2024 23: 58
        Sorry, I wasn’t in the Caucasus, but I was in Afghanistan in 85 - normally in boots. The stones are easily shaken out. :)
        1. +3
          14 January 2024 09: 01
          Shaking it out and not letting it get in initially are two different things. hi
          The choice of ankle boots has already been made naturally at SVO. Almost all the time I wear my boots in damp and muddy conditions.
          Repetitions are not your fault, the site’s technology is stupid. If I immediately see repetitions, I use the trash can for repetition.
          1. +2
            15 January 2024 11: 07
            Whatever you say, but I would choose boots, maybe because I’m used to it? Probably. I still have swamp boots and I wear them with foot wraps. It's a habit though.
            1. 0
              15 January 2024 11: 17
              Yes, I wasn’t trying to convince you at all hi
              The article's question is incorrect, which is better.
              I wear both, although in socks; I haven’t worn foot wraps for 20 years.
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    2. +1
      13 January 2024 19: 55
      I also spent my youth wearing boots, but in the Caucasus I realized the advantage of ankle boots; one of them does not allow pebbles and sand to get into the boot (especially with a high toe like gaiters) and it is more convenient to climb or jump on stones.
  16. +4
    13 January 2024 19: 42
    Boots are more reliable. The lace on your boots breaks and you are no longer a fighter.
  17. +4
    13 January 2024 19: 45
    Boots and foot wraps are more hygienic, safer, more convenient, etc.
  18. Eug
    +3
    13 January 2024 21: 21
    It's strange that no one says that boots are much better,
    than ankle boots, they protect the lower leg from branches when moving through the bushes, etc. And yet - having moved to the village, I was tormented by the search for shoes for “shovel” work - until I acquired ordinary tarpaulin boots (with a low top) with an old soldier-style sole. They “worked” for 4 years; before that, no shoe lasted more than six months, although there were even 5.11 boots with reinforced toes and puncture protection in the sole.
  19. +1
    14 January 2024 01: 32
    Stupid argument better hybrid boots + boots! For example, something like this, but instead of twisters there are laces
  20. -2
    14 January 2024 10: 17
    Russia resolved this issue back in the First World War. All attempts to put boots on the army instead of boots failed due to sanitary losses - a soldier with wet feet cannot fight. But now we are going our own way again, the king is not our guide...
    1. +3
      14 January 2024 10: 41
      You can’t compare a WWII boot with a modern one.
      And in general, this dispute between the “couch troops” is about nothing.
      The practice of the Caucasus and Northern Military District has shown that boots, with proper support and the ability to buy, are better in most cases. Well, in bad weather, in reserve and boots, but also modern ones made of EVA.
  21. +3
    14 January 2024 15: 43
    In fact, both should be in demand. There are no universal shoes. Boots will work better in dry conditions; in slush (especially in trenches where water stagnates, or in swampy areas) boots will be more in demand. Or boots require shoe covers for wet and cold periods, but again, they are not produced en masse, I have only seen them on sale specifically for climbers, I don’t think these are suitable for war. You can remember the shoe covers from OZK, but they are not for all occasions. You need something specialized for boots, and for their size.. You can also remember last winter, when volunteers collected insulated boots for soldiers in the Northern Military District.
  22. +2
    14 January 2024 16: 32
    I prefer yuft boots.
    Yes, they are heavy, but they open the doors with a bang. :)
  23. +1
    14 January 2024 17: 48
    Back in 1997, he was in the 442nd OEKG with a cadet from the Anti-Aircraft School. His platoon managed to find wartime ammunition at some exit in the summer. He stepped on something.
    If I had been wearing ankle boots, I would have lost my foot completely. In the boot there is only the little toe and half of the next one. This is according to the doctor.
    So... You can't guess.
    1. +1
      14 January 2024 19: 50
      Quote: Rostislav Prokopenko
      If I had been wearing ankle boots, I would have lost my foot completely. In the boot there is only the little toe and half of the next one. This is according to the doctor.

      An acquaintance visited a wounded classmate in a military hospital (autumn 2022), he said verbatim that his lieutenant stepped on a petal in Zephyr Lovovsky and only broke his heel, and the machine gunner in ordinary ankle boots lost his foot. Unfortunately, the audio recording does not allow the site to load hi
  24. 0
    14 January 2024 18: 58
    There are reasons for everything. Foot wraps were once invented by the Dutch. Until 1943, the Germans wore boots with wide tops with foot wraps, socks and foot wraps over the socks.

    There were problems in winter, but they were solved by insulating the boots. It was more convenient for the Germans Then they began to switch to cheaper boots and not because of a good life.
    Having lost the war, the Germans began to wear whatever the Americans ordered. Americans were more comfortable with boots.

    After the collapse of the USSR, our army began to switch to boots, because it was cheaper and because “boots are worn by white people.”
    The Germans are not allowed to improve the classic soldier’s boot by the new owners, who don’t care about this problem, but to us it’s stupidity.
    1. ada
      0
      4 March 2024 09: 10
      Quote: ivan2022
      ... The Germans are not allowed to improve the classic soldier’s boot by the new owners, who don’t care about this problem, but to us it’s stupidity.

      I will support you. It is indeed true that the replacement of shoes in the Armed Forces in the North was mainly due to the influence of the “white man” and this is no secret. At one time, admirers of the West had a strong influence on military training and footwear; they were also the promoters of the contractual basis for manning the armed forces. Populism instead of a scientific approach. Financial and economic losses cannot be analyzed, and losses in human resources are still irreparable, the scheme of the armed forces on explosives is flawed. Here's the result. To develop technical equipment, shoes, equipment and special suits, we need a research institute of the Ministry of Defense with pilot production and a network of state-owned enterprises with explosive capacities.
  25. 0
    14 January 2024 19: 52
    Judging by the comments, many people of advanced age have not seen normal tactical combat boots. That’s why they talk about twigs and dampness.
    1. 0
      15 January 2024 10: 19
      It’s enough just to take your eyes off and see what modern municipal workers wear. They wear boots similar to German ones from WWII. And neither wells with water, nor cold winter, nor dirt are afraid of them.
      If the bosses are interested, there will be no problems.
      And if journalists convince the naive that the specialists supposedly don’t know themselves, it’s better to wear shoes or boots - there will be problems. Especially in the form of amputations in winter.
      1. -1
        15 January 2024 10: 37
        Quote: ivan2022
        It’s enough just to take your eyes off and see what modern municipal workers wear. They wear boots similar to German ones from WWII.
        Utility workers don’t have money for such boots. For an adequate perception, you need to read reviews from online stores, again there are a lot of videos and comments for them on YouTube. And on both front lines. Although of course I understand, memories of youth, boots are everything.
        P.S. The automatic machine has long replaced the pen, but old people are still nostalgic for the “combat classics”
        I bought several pairs for my employees (ranger work in the forest), we are already using them in slush and wet snow. The first exit, among people who traditionally wore nothing but rubber boots into the forest, caused a reaction in the form of childish delight. Buy good shoes! Many thanks to the store staff for their individual approach to everyone and the quality of the goods sold!
        https://egertorg.ru/product/beelewille-500-usmc-combat-boot-/
        1. 0
          15 January 2024 11: 21
          Quote: Stirbjorn
          Utility workers don’t have money for such boots
          Have you looked into their pockets?
          Again. During the Second World War, the Germans first had boots. And then, precisely because of the high cost of boots, they began to switch to boots. So the naive confidence that “our soldiers receive the best” is not convincing. Or maybe it's the other way around?

          In addition, for some reason you believe that boots cannot be improved. It is incorrect to compare a boot from half a century ago and a modern boot.

          The not very long history of the military uniform “from Yudashkin” shows that the enemy is not asleep. And someone’s review is not an argument! This could actually be an advertisement. The author clearly explained to you that it’s all about the relationship between the cost of supplies and the purchase price.
        2. +2
          15 January 2024 11: 45
          Quote: Stirbjorn
          The automatic machine has long replaced the manual, but old people are still nostalgic for the “combat classics”

          Old people are not nostalgic. Old people remember that their country had a gigantic budget. Because she received all profits into the budget, and not just taxes. And therefore it could almost compare in budget with the United States, which robbed and robs the whole world. Old people are just normal...
  26. +3
    14 January 2024 21: 57
    For "combat", especially in the autumn-winter period, only kirzachs and foot wraps. One problem, if the anti-infantry is accidentally used, then all the nails are in the groin. In summer and in the mountains - high-top sneakers. Yes, also, I cut off the “brakes” from the trousers (Afghan) (who knows, he will understand) and instead of a lace, inserted an elastic band into the cuff, otherwise by the evening the foot would hurt and it would be uncomfortable to squat and bend over. And with an elastic band, it was still possible to run the trousers over the tops, then nothing would get into the boots, neither snow nor sand.
  27. 0
    14 January 2024 22: 06
    Quote: kaban7
    In boots and socks??? I once tried to wear socks under boots - it’s impossible to walk, the socks wear off and my feet sweat and chafe very quickly... Under boots - only foot wraps, there’s nothing better.

    Did I really write that?... )) maybe it’s written between the lines.... ))
  28. 0
    15 January 2024 11: 05
    He wore boots and combat boots.
    I don’t understand what the argument is about here. Boots are certainly much more comfortable. And comfort and lightness and you won’t puncture your leg (if with an insert) and so on.
    In bad weather, you put on boots from OZK and smoke bamboo).
    In winter, felt boots are better, you can even wear bare feet - you will never freeze))) This is if you are on guard or standing on a counter.
  29. +2
    15 January 2024 16: 19
    We wore boots for two years, although we had yuft ones. they were given not for six months, but for either 8 or 12 months, I don’t remember.

    At first these shoes seemed like hell, but then I got so used to them that the foot wraps and boots became like slippers. In winter I put on warm foot wraps - beautiful, warm, no calluses. In summer, foot wraps absorb sweat well. True, drying them in the barracks is a purely military matter, but you quickly get used to the smell. Socks don't smell any better.

    Even very dirty foot wraps cannot be installed :)

    I don't think there will be a return to boots. It's just that time has passed. Just like the time of overcoats.
    1. +2
      15 January 2024 16: 39
      Boots can be not only the usual tarpaulin or yuft, for example, in the tsarist army, officers sometimes sewed custom-made boots from one piece of leather with a seam at the back, they practically did not get wet, and Finnish shoes in Finnish also did not get wet, there are boots with a sandal sewing method soles, there are Canadian boots from which, if you scoop them up, you can pour almost all the water out, but try pouring all the water out of our tarpaulin boots, there are boots made entirely of canvas, by the way, they dry faster than any others. We must be given the opportunity to choose what is best for someone
  30. 0
    21 February 2024 11: 23
    Yay, what is the eternal dispute? Once again they are sucking all sorts of crap out of your fingertips.!! And before there was probably a dispute between bast shoes and boots?
  31. +1
    23 February 2024 19: 50
    Quote: Stanley Smith
    On guard duty for a couple of weeks? This is a complete mockery of UGiKS

    There’s simply no one to put on guard...
  32. 0
    11 March 2024 09: 01
    That's interesting.
    There are rubber boots. And they suit everyone.
    But for some reason rubber boots have not yet been invented. Although ankle boots are supposedly better.
    Well, look at the chronicle. What kind of shoes do soldiers in Donbass wear when they knead mud in the trenches? In ankle boots???