Ayatollah Khomeini's message to Gorbachev: is it still relevant thirty-five years later?

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Ayatollah Khomeini's message to Gorbachev: is it still relevant thirty-five years later?


An unexpected letter


In January 1989, M.S. Gorbachev unexpectedly received a letter from Ayatollah R. Khomeini. Unexpectedly, since the imam had not yet sent personal messages to any of the heads of foreign states.



The second surprise, presumably, was the content of the text, expressed in the proposal to study Islam in detail as an alternative to the materialistic worldview that was experiencing a crisis within the framework of late Soviet realities and a kind of way to effectively solve the spiritual and moral problems facing the USSR.

It would seem that the Ayatollah did not choose the right time to establish a dialogue: just with the advent (more precisely, the bringing) of Gorbachev to power Greater and Lesser Satan began rapprochement: since 1987, two meetings of the leaders of the superpowers took place in their capitals.

And a little later the letter, but in the same 1989, "Gorky Park" recorded a single in New York and against the backdrop of Soviet-American flags Bang, which appeared on the chart "Billboard". A year earlier, the first beauty contest was held in the country, which would hardly have found support among the Iranian mullahs, especially against the background of the introduction in 1981 of compulsory wearing of the veil and a host of other restrictions for women in Iran.

As one would expect, the Soviet leader (this word, of course, would have to be put in quotation marks) responded with general phrases. A month later, having received the head of the Foreign Ministry, E. A. Shevardnadze, in Qom, the Ayatollah expressed disappointment, because he represented Gorbachev as a thinking man.

No, the Secretary General was a thinking man, but, contrary to Khomeini’s hopes, not a thinker. And his reckless and even naive steps in the foreign policy arena testified to the lack of talent as a politician in the true, Machiavellian sense of the word.

For otherwise, behind the tone of the letter, the flair of general, although not devoid of theological depth, phrases, Mikhail Sergeevich would have discerned something more than reasoning on religious topics of little interest to him.

I think he would have seen, albeit veiled, a proposal for joint implementation in the international arena of the strategy that the Kremlin is currently building in the Middle East, about which I recently wrote: “The President’s visit to the UAE and KSA: an afterword without euphoria”.

And “only” thirty-five years have passed - a knock on the closed Euro-Atlantic door, which, yes, was opened slightly, but was only allowed into the hallway, sometimes to the accompaniment of laughter and a condescending pat on the shoulder - remember friend Bill.


Remember? It’s still a shame to watch. Khomeini warned against this path

The reason is simple - the strategy of neocolonialism of the elite gold-billion dollar club was implemented in relation to Russia (its territory, resources, production base, labor market, scientific potential - here, however, the Chinese tried harder, thanks to which they carried out a manned space flight in 2003), and not together with her.

And, moreover, the most far-sighted overseas politicians in relation to the de-ideologized USSR began to implement a similar strategy precisely during the period under consideration here. Eh, in this regard, I would like to rummage through the archives of G. Kissinger, who recently left our world, or, even better, the then Secretary of State D. Shultz.

Gorbachev between Scylla and Charybdis


However, the USSR was not in a stalemate, neither regarding its own economy, nor, especially, the state of affairs in the international arena. Although crisis phenomena permeated all aspects of his socio-economic life. Let me remind you that at the end of the 1980s, the popularity of Mikhail Sergeevich, who was outwardly democratic and loved to communicate with people on camera, came to naught. The reasons were complex.

The most memorable of them: a clumsily executed anti-alcohol campaign, short-sighted modeling martyr from B. N. Yeltsin at the XIX Party Conference. Nothing prevented him from being taken out of politics behind closed doors, but no: the famous Ligachev "Boris, you're wrong" spread across the country and became one of the first memes.

This played into the hands of those who pushed the former Sverdlovsk-Moscow mayor to the highest level of the power pyramid. This should also include Gorbachev’s naive attempt to walk between the Scylla of liberalism and the Charybdis of conservatism.

All this ultimately led to a clumsy step by part of the party and state apparatus to save part of the party and state apparatus from the collapse of the USSR in August 1991, which three months later turned into the triumph of Yeltsinism and the formation of an oligarchy on the ruins of the socialist state, the bloody glow of criminal wars and the rapid impoverishment of a significant part of the population.

Ayatollah shows the way


What does Khomeini have to do with this? – ask. Of course, the Ayatollah knew about the internal crisis the USSR was experiencing. Isn’t this where the lines from the letter come from:

Of course, the wrong methods and erroneous actions of the former communist leaders in the economic sphere could lead to the fact that the blooming garden of the West appeared to you and bewitched you.

The imam was aware, at least in general terms, of the Kremlin’s course in the international arena, and he also saw the political impasse that arose for us in the DRA:

A serious approach to Islam will probably save you from problems like Afghanistan forever.

Presumably, he was worried about the rapprochement between Moscow and Washington.

But, unlike Gorbachev, the Ayatollah was unlikely to have any illusions about the true goals of the United States in relation to its main geopolitical competitor, hidden behind Reagan’s Hollywood smile. By the way, I think the pragmatic Deng Xiaoping also understood this.


Now it’s not difficult to guess what was hidden behind Reagan’s smile. Actually, Khomeini directly wrote:

However, I strongly urge you to ensure that, by destroying the edifice of Marxist illusions, you do not become captive of the West.

And, probably, it was on this plane that the imam was looking for common ground with Moscow, hoping in the future to develop a strategy of relations with it that would make it possible to prevent the formation of a unipolar world, under the auspices of the United States, which had already begun.

Did you believe in the internal stability of the Soviet Union? Probably yes, clearly overestimating Gorbachev. Otherwise, how can we explain the following lines from the letter:

Your courage and boldness in approaching real world events can be the source of transformations that change the overall situation in the world.

Everyone knows a somewhat offensive-sounding but true saying: On their own people are not judged. But man is so constructed that he judges only by himself.

Here is Khomeini: in a sense, in 1979 he found himself in an even tougher situation than Gorbachev ten years later, facing both an armed opposition and a range of political movements seeking power after the flight of the Shah. And not all was well with the economy in Iran, and the war with Iraq would soon hang like a sword of Damocles. Also, the lack of unity in Iranian society should not be discounted.

No, the imam who returned from Paris gained the support of the majority of the population: from ordinary peasants to the intelligentsia. But the minority that opposed his policy was ready to die, kill and represented a very passionate part of society, as I wrote about in a recent article “Illusion in photographs: why Khomeini won”.

Is Iranian experience in demand?


Unlike Gorbachev, the imam managed, and not only through repression. He probably expected that his counterpart would also survive under the weight of oppressive but surmountable problems. And, perhaps, a more careful study of the Iranian experience, a deeper reflection on the letter, would have forced Gorbachev to at least curtail his flirtation with the destructive forces seeking to destroy the country.

Let’s say, don’t rush to curtsey to A.I. Solzhenitsyn (of course, I didn’t hold a candle, but the very logic of his stay abroad leaves me with no doubts about cooperation Vermont recluse with the CIA), to put an end, politically, to Yakovlevism, without which Echo of Moscow would not have received a ticket to air. But Gorbachev was not Khomeini.

Of course, with a certain amount of reservations, the imam’s letter can be considered within the framework of the concept of exporting the Islamic Revolution. But here the Ayatollah was wrong, incorrectly assessing the state of affairs in the USSR and addressing the following lines to the Secretary General:

When “Allahu Akbar!” was heard from the minarets of mosques in some of your republics seventy years later. and the testimony of the prophetic mission of the Last Messenger of Allah (may Allah bless him and his family!), all those professing the true Islam of Muhammad wept with delight.

The process of Islamization, and in its radical form, yes, affected, but only the named region, plus the Volga region, which had a considerable percentage of the Muslim population.

It was not worth extrapolating it to the entire country, especially against the backdrop of the celebration of the millennium of the Baptism of Rus' and the Renaissance of Orthodoxy. The Soviet intelligentsia then experienced greater interest in Roerichianism and eastern destructive sects ("Aum Shinrikyo") rather than Islam.

But all of the above is general reasoning. Now a little specifics.

Khomeini's first steps as head of state (for the Ayatollah only formally did not hold any positions) were, despite his anti-Marxist rhetoric, complementary to the USSR: Iran's withdrawal from the anti-Soviet CENTO - something like the Middle Eastern Entente created under the auspices of the United States; the elimination of American tracking stations near our borders, the suspension of diplomatic relations with Egypt, which had fallen out with Moscow and moved towards rapprochement with Washington, including through Camp David.

And in fact, the place of the United States in the economic life of Iran was taken by the countries of the socialist camp. Thus, China, North Korea and the USSR became his partners after the Islamic Revolution.

That is, the basis for economic cooperation between Moscow and Tehran by 1989 was completely formed. And I think the following lines applied not only to theologians:

If you wish to study the works of this great man, send several competent and knowledgeable persons in this field to us in Qom, so that in a few years they can learn all the subtlety and depth of these sciences, for true knowledge without such a trip is not possible.

I would venture to suggest that the above contained a hint of inviting diplomats and economists to formulate the principles of a strategy for preserving a multipolar world and leveling Anglo-Saxon domination, the contours of which were already taking shape on the world political stage.

Personality and history


However, the extraordinary step of an old man who lived in Kum and was already seriously ill could not find a response in Moscow. For on one side there was a true statesman, a theologian not alien to philosophical intuition, charismatic, experienced in political struggle, and his counterpart turned out to be an accidental person in power, perhaps skilled in the armchair intrigues of the party nomenklatura, but whose scale of personality did not correspond to the difficulties facing the country, although, I repeat again, the tasks being solved, including in the foreign policy arena.

In the end, Khomeini did not take into account that by 1989 Gorbachev had already chosen the course followed by the overthrown Shah. His name: surrogate for Westernism. By the way, M. Pahlavi, with his shortsightedness, also somewhat resembled the Soviet president, although he turned out to be a more successful reformer on the whole.

As for Westernism (not surrogate), since the XNUMXth century it has been the flesh and blood of the consciousness of the educated strata of Russian society, and even the Slavophiles were no exception here, because, like their opponents who absolutized the order in the most developed European states, they came out of the Hegelian overcoat .

And there is nothing wrong with this, because Russia is a European country, and not only from the point of view of the mental attitudes of an educated society, but also of the ruling elite, starting with Peter I.

However, even with the undeniably European character of Russian civilization, attempts made by the same Gorbachev, and then Yeltsin, to squeeze into the billion-dollar club were doomed to failure.

Actually, they are precisely a surrogate for Westernism, from which the current Russian government is trying with all its might to distance itself, relying on, as it seems to me, a simulacrum of originality.

Hence, instead of the echo-Moscow surrogate of liberalism, a simulacrum of conservatism in the person of "Tsargrad", hence the suddenly revived demand in the media space of A. G. Dugin, the heart-rending cries of I. Okhlobystin - remember his September 2022 "Goyda", thrown from the paving stones of Red Square and designed for the base instincts of the crowd.


Okhlobystin. It’s not difficult to find his speech on Red Square on the Internet

Is it worth re-reading Khomeini's letter?


Can this be called a Khomeini-style alternative to all this?

After all, he wrote about religion, and Okhlobystin and Dugin talk about it. However, the difference is significant. It is clear that Islam cannot become the dominant religion in Russia. But the Ayatollah suggested relying on the flower of Islamic thought: Farabi, Abu Ali ibn Sina, Sukhrewardi, Muhaddin bin Arabi.

Thanks to them, words Muslim и philosopher in the Middle Ages they were synonyms. And everything Tsargrad-Okhlobystinsky is least of all associated with the depth of thought.

This is all I mean: perhaps our authorities should get and re-read the message of the Ayatollah - not for the sake of accepting Islam - no, of course, but at least for the sake of throwing the same I. Ilyin into a landfill stories, a rejection of the above-mentioned simulacrum of originality and deeper reflection on Russia’s place in the world and in Europe, of which it is undoubtedly a part culturally.

Tsymbursky instead of Farabi


And here the place of the mentioned Muslim philosophers, in my opinion, should be taken by the intellectual heritage of V. L. Tsymbursky - an underrated Russian thinker, whose “Morphology of Russian geopolitics and dynamics of international systems. XVIII - XX centuries", as well as his other works, and not Ilyin’s little books with an apology for fascism, should become reference books for the Russian political elite.

For in Tsymbursky’s books there is rigor and depth of thought. And it was to them that Khomeini called Gorbachev.

Gorbachev did not hear, but the call has not lost its relevance.

Использованная литература:
Amirov E. G. Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini and the formation of the foreign policy course of the Islamic Republic of Iran / E. G. Amirov // Scientific dialogue. – 2019. – No. 7. – P. 209–221.
Letter from Imam Khomeini to M. S. Gorbachev.
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  1. +6
    28 December 2023 04: 25
    This is all I’m saying: perhaps our government should get and re-read the Ayatollah’s message - not for the sake of accepting Islam - no, of course, but at least for the sake of throwing the same I. Ilyin into the dustbin of history, abandoning the above-mentioned simulacrum of originality and deeper reflection on Russia’s place in the world and in Europe, of which it is undoubtedly a part in cultural terms.
    belay
    And here the place of the mentioned Muslim philosophers, in my opinion, should be taken by the intellectual heritage of V. L. Tsymbursky - an underrated Russian thinker,
    recourse That's right, let's replace the overrated ones with the undervalued ones. fool Moreover, tomorrow all of Europe will circumcise itself. feel And here we are, already Europeans-Europeans....
    Vadim Leonidovich Tsymbursky (February 17, 1957, Lviv - March 23, 2009, Moscow) - Soviet and Russian philosopher,
    feel Is this your uncle? We don’t need Westerners; our own philosophers from the Mogila Academy are a dime a dozen.
    1. +5
      28 December 2023 05: 05
      Tsimbursky is not a Westerner. In principle, everything is written normally, if we take the controversy that exists.
      https://politconservatism.ru/upload/iblock/b9a/b9af63f4980d319deab730b578325301.pdf
      He polemicizes with Eurasianists, in general, to the point. It’s generally easy to argue with them lol
      The question there is different - this is a kind of philosophical construction applied to geopolitics. I didn't find any economics there. However, this is a common problem among Eurasians, Westerners, and alternative ideologists like Tsimbursky. Such a big speculative horse in a crystal ball. Well that's my opinion.
      1. +9
        28 December 2023 05: 33
        However, I strongly urge you to ensure that, by destroying the edifice of Marxist illusions, you do not become captive of the West.

        Ayatollah Khomeini turned out to be right... The tagged architect of perestroika, together with his counterpart Yeltsin, enchanted by the false smiles and promises of the West, brought the country (USSR, and then the Russian Federation) to the brink of destruction... One received a Nobel Prize and an American medal "For victory in the Cold War", the second presidency, and we got a torn country and a couple of lost generations...
        1. +12
          28 December 2023 05: 37
          In some ways he’s right, but in others he’s wrong. Today we are all in a stage of some kind of “after-knowledge”. We analyze the past and the current date.
          1. +9
            28 December 2023 15: 37
            We do. But politicians shouldn't do that. Remember Stalin, who already at the end of the 1920s was tearing out the veins of himself and others so that the country would face 1941 with KV, T-34 and powerful industrial potential.
            1. -9
              28 December 2023 17: 56
              first, at the end of the 20s, he destroyed the multi-structured economy that allowed the USSR to quickly emerge from a catastrophic crisis and plunged the country into a new crisis of the 30s, and in addition with mass repressions and the destruction of its own citizens.
              1. +5
                28 December 2023 21: 02
                But she couldn’t be multi-layered. It didn’t grow together somehow. And these repressions were for the good when we had to brush aside the entire European crook. These “massive” repressed people would have sunk to the bottom.
                1. -2
                  29 December 2023 05: 15
                  they like to talk about “good” from the sofa
                  1. +4
                    29 December 2023 08: 36
                    Yes, it varies. Personally, I don’t like the peddler’s world; to the best of my ability, this was confirmed by action when it was imposed on us. Now, of course, it’s a sofa. But what if...
                    There are no halftones in this matter. The IVS understood this clearly. He developed the cooperative movement, but under strict control. Why not a mixed economy? But no emergency or personal enrichment. I wanted something different - a lift and a pick. If you don't correct yourself, it's a bullet.
                    1. -3
                      29 December 2023 18: 46
                      I am sure that Russia after the revolution had a different path without dictatorship and the destruction of its own people.
                      1. +2
                        29 December 2023 19: 45
                        Here, after all, the people were divided. For those who want to make money and those who do not agree with this. There were more of the latter and they were right. Well, accordingly, the first had two ways - to resign themselves or to the ground if they grabbed the shooting and sharp ones. Those who were smarter fled immediately to their class relatives, beyond the cordon.
                      2. -3
                        29 December 2023 20: 00
                        No one asked either the second or the first about anything. The end of the 20s was the time of the establishment of an absolute dictatorship. everything was decided by a limited circle of people supported by the party bureaucratic nomenklatura and the repressive apparatus.
                      3. +2
                        29 December 2023 20: 37
                        Who told you this? Did this limited circle have private property? Or what did they wear and what did they put in the coffin? There was a dictatorship, the dictatorship of the working man, on whom this nomenklatura relied. This is what those same “repressive” bodies were monitoring. And she also had, in case of incorrigible mistakes, many chances to transform into a completely different quality.
                        All modern “interpreters”, even if it’s a stretch to call them historians, evaluate the Stalin era from the position of modern unbridled speculation and permissiveness. Then there was a completely different state and different people. Convinced that they are right. This is what helped us survive the worst war in history, restore the country and give an excellent start to the next generations. And they fell in love with her country and his chance. Think what you want, but today we are not living correctly.
                      4. -3
                        29 December 2023 20: 58
                        This is what the story told me. It is a very big exaggeration that they were put in the coffin and what they wore. There were isolated cases and nothing more. Already in the thirties there was a strong stratification with servants, personal transport and apartments. And the workers had to stand in lines for bread and clothes. After all, most of the honest and modest communists by that time had been ousted by the Stalinist bureaucracy, slandered and destroyed. Any dissatisfaction and criticism was brutally suppressed. Enough telling fairy tales already.
                        Russia would have survived the war without Stalin. When I hear about the country being restored, I always want to ask: were the 30 million dead (this does not take into account other victims) also restored?
                        The origins of our present are there in the 20-30s of the last century, when all this rot appeared and gave seeds that germinate again and again.
                      5. +2
                        29 December 2023 23: 30
                        Oppa. Is personal transport an emergency? Like a yacht 200m away, a fleet of Falcons and Rolls-Royces with a Bentley to boot?
                        And for 30 million, you and Aloizych and his peaceful killers will ask on an “industrial scale” if you can go to the astral plane. The German and I have the same military losses. Not counting all the Italians, Romanians, Bulgarians, Croats and Vlasovites.
                        A miner (not necessarily Stakhanov) driving up to stand in line for the next suit in his personal car is standing before your eyes.
                        Don't listen to the Leberoid liars. They have been talking for 30 years, all about galoshes, and about galoshes. It’s necessary to work off the merchant’s silver coins.
                        No one managed to win. The whole geyropa went down. And the Saxons would have been possessed if it weren’t for us. And the winner of the IVS was rightfully recognized by all his sworn friends. It is enough to remember Sir Marlborough.
                      6. -3
                        29 December 2023 20: 06
                        In the last few years, I have gained experience in doing business with Georgians, which in particular has allowed me to look at Stalin from a new point of view and it has become much clearer why he behaved the way he did with people.
        2. +8
          28 December 2023 12: 58
          and we got a torn country and a couple of lost generations...
          Not only this!
          -lost respect for the world communist movement;
          -changed the system from socialist to capitalist;
          -became an anti-example for Africa.
      2. -8
        28 December 2023 08: 35
        Quote: nikolaevskiy78
        Tsimbursky is not a Westerner... He polemicizes with Eurasians, in general, to the point. It’s generally easy to argue with them
        Yeah, you’re not a Westerner either? And you seem to understand something about philosophy. And you handle Dugin like a child in a discussion. There is a rhyme for you: “I am a bebek, I am a memeka, I gored a bear.” Throwing stink at the fan is your “philosophy” and the only thing you can do, although clumsily, is succeed. “Policize” here with Lev_Russia and Stas157 in three shovels.
        1. +1
          28 December 2023 12: 59
          And this you, whose Christianity was born in the Holy Roman Empire? Yes, I remember. Then you showed the world the “base” wassat
          1. -5
            28 December 2023 15: 09
            Quote: nikolaevskiy78
            And this you, whose Christianity was born in the Holy Roman Empire?
            And you are a liar: I already answered you for this random typo, but you continue to make it in your posts. And a braggart. Can you challenge any of Dugin’s thesis of your choice? But not in yours, but in his formulation!
            1. +2
              28 December 2023 15: 21
              Firstly, why should I dispute “any of Dugin’s thesis” because you want to? Secondly, what does Dugin have to do with it if I didn’t mention him in that comment. A typo is when X is accidentally replaced by Z and E on the keyboard, and 2+2=86 is not a typo. winked And not in every post, since I don’t comment on you, but you come yourself laughing
              You're fuming in vain, otherwise the schooner will run aground again, like last time.
        2. +1
          28 December 2023 13: 34
          In fact, many of Dugin’s associates and representatives of patriotic social thought in general treat Tsymbursky and his ideas with great respect. You should understand the issue first.
          1. -3
            28 December 2023 15: 49
            Quote: Sergej1972
            Tsymbursky and his ideas are treated with great respect.
            Please treat it as you wish. But I would like to see the proof of the statement about Tsymbursky “He polemicizes with the Eurasians, in general, to the point” from nikolaevskiy78, without which it can be considered an empty puffing out of your colleague’s cheeks, and his statement “it’s generally easy to polemicize with them” - excessive boasting.
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    3. +4
      28 December 2023 10: 25
      From the joint statement of Mao Zedong and Enver Hoxha “On the birthday of J.V. Stalin” dated December 21.12.1964, XNUMX: “The criminal actions of Khrushchev and his henchmen will have long-term consequences, they will lead to the degeneration and then the destruction of the USSR and the CPSU... »
      Mao Zedong, "New China", Beijing. 1964, No. 12: “After 1953, nationalists and careerists, bribe-takers covered by the Kremlin, came to power in the USSR. When the time comes, they will throw off their masks, throw away their party cards and openly rule their districts as feudal lords and serf owners.”
      Regarding Islam, Brezhnev wanted to appoint a Muslim, Heydar Aliyev, to the post of Chairman of the USSR Supreme Council. which would increase the country's authority in the Islamic world.
      1. +1
        28 December 2023 13: 43
        From the joint statement of Mao Zedong and Enver Hoxha “On the birthday of J.V. Stalin” dated December 21.12.1964, XNUMX: “The criminal actions of Khrushchev and his henchmen will have long-term consequences, they will lead to the degeneration and then the destruction of the USSR and the CPSU... »
        Mao Zedong, "New China", Beijing. 1964, No. 12: “After 1953, nationalists and careerists, bribe-takers covered by the Kremlin, came to power in the USSR. When the time comes, they will throw off their masks, throw away their party cards and openly rule their districts as feudal lords and serf owners.”
        Regarding Islam, Brezhnev wanted to appoint a Muslim, Heydar Aliyev, to the post of Chairman of the USSR Supreme Council. which would increase the country's authority in the Islamic world.

        Ayatollah in a letter to Gorbachev about China.

        The leader of China was the first to strike at communism, the second and, apparently, the last blow was dealt by you. Nowadays, what is called communism no longer exists in the world.
        1. 0
          28 December 2023 15: 41
          It’s fitting to dedicate an article to this quote from the letter.
  2. +13
    28 December 2023 04: 45
    Gorbachev was the forerunner of the collapse of the Soviet Union and gave birth to Yeltsin. Yeltsin finally and irrevocably finished off the USSR. But for the current guarantor, Yeltsin is a great guy!

    . heart-rending screams of I. Okhlobystin - remember his September, 2022 “Goyda”, thrown from the paving stones of Red Square and designed for the base instincts of the crowd.

    And then there was the Kharkov regrouping and a difficult decision with Kherson.

    Now, if in the same year 22 they had taken Kyiv or at least Odessa, then it would have been Goida. And so this “Goida” has been dragging on for almost two years, and we cannot even win back the autumn losses of 22 years.
    1. -7
      28 December 2023 05: 54
      Where did you get the idea that in 22 we could take Kyiv...??? It’s an army of less than 200 thousand people to take a city of 4 million...??? Complete nonsense... Almost 3 million of our soldiers took part in the capture of Berlin with 45 million inhabitants in 3... By the way, there were attempts to enter Kiev, but they ended rather sadly... Well, Kherson... He once lived and worked nearby in Novaya Kakhovka... Kherson, as far as I understand, was surrendered because its defense brought very large losses of personnel, and the shelling of the city by the Ukrainian side caused great destruction... Bare steppe and no natural shelters ... By the way, the Armed Forces of Ukraine did not enter the city until recently and were very disappointed with its surrender... It was too convenient to hammer it from a distance... And so, I had to keep units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the city and maintain order in it... I I was also disappointed, but... somehow I was able to realize the need for its surrender... By the way, as far as I understand, although I may be wrong, the tactic of taking large cities head-on with huge losses will not be used by our armed forces at this stage. .. We will strive to take everything around, block all supply routes and slowly destroy the military infrastructure... And only then... And what will happen then, we’ll wait and see... belay
      1. +8
        28 December 2023 06: 12
        Quote: Lev_Russia
        Where did you get the idea that in 22 we could take Kyiv...??? It’s an army of less than 200 thousand people to take a city of 4 million...??? Complete nonsense...

        The question is not for me. Ask it to our geostrategists and helmsmen. Before going to Kyiv it was necessary
        obviously prepare. How do you think?

        Quote: Lev_Russia
        By the way, the Ukrainian Armed Forces did not enter the city until recently and were very disappointed with his surrender...

        Yah! And I, naive, thought they had a grand celebration! It turns out not, right?
        Why are Bandera’s followers still nostalgic for the autumn achievements of ’22? And they get upset: how come after such dizzying successes, their counterattack did not work out!

        Quote: Lev_Russia
        I was also disappointed, but... somehow I was able to realize the need to surrender it...

        It was impossible to surrender Kherson.
        Perhaps it would be difficult and not easy. But tell me, will it be easy to take it back if they ever decide to do so? How many lives will have to be sacrificed?
      2. +1
        1 January 2024 03: 35
        Quote: Lev_Russia
        It’s an army of less than 200 thousand people to take a city of 4 million...??? Complete nonsense... Almost 3 million of our soldiers took part in the capture of Berlin with 45 million inhabitants in 3...

        The question was not the size of the population of Berlin, but the size of the armed group defending it - a million people.
    2. +1
      28 December 2023 15: 42
      “And then there was the Kharkov regrouping and a difficult decision with Kherson.” Yes!
  3. 0
    28 December 2023 05: 21
    This is definitely an opus from the “Hegelian” overcoat. I heard about the ringing... laughing crying
  4. +6
    28 December 2023 05: 31
    Not only Khomeini saw where Gorbachev was leading the country
    1. +7
      28 December 2023 06: 50
      Quote: Dutchman Michel
      Not only Khomeini saw where Gorbachev was leading the country

      It's easy to talk about the past. From a distance everything is obvious. Try to see it in the present.

      I see that the path started by Gorbachev and picked up by Yeltsin continues to this day. Our Guarantor clearly answered all those who doubted: “There will be no revision of the results of privatization.” But it was precisely with this, with predatory privatization, that the appropriation of people’s property and the emergence of oligarchs began. By pure chance, many of them turned out to be good friends of one famous person.
      1. +5
        28 December 2023 09: 48
        And most importantly, not only will there be no revisions to the results, but it continues at a good pace, and no one is going to stop it. hi
      2. +4
        28 December 2023 11: 29
        From a distance everything is obvious. Try to see it in the present.

        At the end of the eighties, many people understood very well what was going on.
        The trouble is that they preferred to observe from the outside, and also believed that everything would somehow work itself out - “after all, such a system cannot collapse.”
        But there were also a huge number of those who understood, but hoped to grab more during the collapse.
  5. +2
    28 December 2023 05: 37
    All types of foreign culture have been instilled in us for centuries. And to change everything overnight means ruining the country. Foreign Minister Lavrov - “The Renaissance of Islam has begun in Russia.” Tens of years in history this is dust. Even Russian people have different characters. There is one in the Volga region, another in Siberia. No matter what attempts we make in foreign and domestic policy, all this should be aimed at the unity of our people. Many imagine the current period as revolutionary. Without the participation of the people themselves, nothing decisive will happen.
    1. +7
      28 December 2023 05: 52
      We'll finish this throwing around. They decided to introduce Chinese in schools, but a turn to the East was declared dangerous for the “greatness of the Third Rome” and they decided to turn to the South. And in the south, Arabs and Persians, now they want to teach Arabic in schools, and Lavrov talks about the Renaissance. While there is a renaissance at the top, there is migration at the bottom, because they have turned to the South. At the same time, Lavrov obviously does not like Persians. This is an endless path, like the wheel of Russian Samsara.
      1. +3
        28 December 2023 08: 40
        Quote: nikolaevskiy78
        We'll finish this throwing around.

        What else can they do? Just squirm. So they squirm to please their momentary desires. Looking objectively and seeing/planning the future - all this is not about them...

        Quote: nikolaevskiy78
        but a turn to the East was declared dangerous for the “greatness of the Third Rome” and they decided to turn to the South.

        No matter how the head spins, it will spin around its axis laughing It would be nice to “turn inward”, notice your historical ethnic group, and engage in its comprehensive development...
      2. +2
        28 December 2023 09: 55
        Quote: nikolaevskiy78
        decided to introduce Chinese language in schools

        It is enough to change the content of existing language courses - instead of studying the cultural life of native speakers that is meaningless for us, focus on valuable narrow aspects such as science, technology and engineering, law and economics. Go to a very useful study of business and technical aspects, patent science, logic course, etc. Usually students do this, but here you can shift everything to school and spend the years of school with great practical benefit and those who become students and workers will be much more prepared to innovation and perception of global experience. A fairly easy path without any drastic breakdowns; humanitarian options can be left for extended training.
      3. +12
        28 December 2023 11: 40
        We'll finish this throwing around.

        We've already finished the game.
        The replacement of the indigenous population by culturally alien savages has become irreversible, but we cannot talk about this, we are not in Europe, so for some reason the same processes must have different results.
        There is no one to think in our “leadership”; everything there is based on reflexes, mostly grasping, hence the constant “deceptions” and continuous throwing.
    2. 0
      28 December 2023 15: 44
      "The Renaissance of Islam has begun in Russia." No matter how the Renaissance turns into a triumph of fundamentalism (the murder of Yakupov in Tatarstan came to mind)
      1. +4
        28 December 2023 19: 52
        Gorbachev was never naive. Make no mistake.
        No one but him managed to settle down so cleverly after the USSR.
        Neither Shevardnadze, nor Nazarbayev, nor Aliyev, nor Yakovlev.
  6. +6
    28 December 2023 06: 05
    Dugin’s proposed monarchy without a monarch and a monarchy without a dynasty is not Mikhalkov’s “Besogon”.
    Besogon is a sermon for someone who changed his shoes in time and who replaced the Continuing Red Banners and Certificates of Honor from the CPSU with Orthodox icons behind him. And it is imperative to sit in the frame so that all the rings on both Mikhalkov’s hands are visible to us. Pfu! This is how he is, having changed his shoes in time, the gentleman-teacher.
    Then I accidentally watched one video, and there was a former criminal who was also a singer, Novikov. So the interior is exactly Mikhalkovsky, the pose for displaying the rings is the same and the “iconostasis” behind is the same. So there are a lot of those who copy Mikhalkov with their thoughts, like cockroaches in a bathhouse, and they are very, very far from Dugin...
    1. +3
      28 December 2023 08: 44
      Quote: north 2
      they are very, very far from Dugin...

      Of course, Dugin is, if I may say so, the guru of patriotic thought, the father of our new spiritually strong philosophy, a luminary...
    2. +1
      28 December 2023 14: 30
      I don’t know if I will reveal some secret of the centuries, but we have three forms of the conventional “patriotic camp”: Eurasianists, right-wing conservatives and young neo-Marxists. The first and second cannot stand neo-Marxists, and in terms of being in demand by the state machine, they were generally relegated to settlements in the margins.

      However, in a dispute with the Eurasians and their frontman Dugin, right-wing conservatives usually accuse them (the Eurasians) of abandoning “Russianness,” “Noviopism,” “Sovietism,” “migrantism,” etc. We have two types of Eurasians and four subtypes - the Dugits proper and the Khazins from the VIII and two circles - the Izbortsy-Prokhanovites and the Kurginyan comrades. Among conservatives - in the terminal and unrestrained stage of right-wing conservatism, one can observe such characters as Yegori Kholmogorov, in the stage of adequate, scientific, intelligent and good-looking - this is exactly the indicated Tsimbursky with his works. It is impossible to read Kholmogorov, much less listen to him, but one can argue with the works of Tsimbursky. The Eurasian-Duginians are (have been) discussing with Tsymbursky.

      The problem is that the debate between one and the other is often reminiscent of projects at school over who can draw the coolest contour map. They draw the boundaries of continents, ideologies, civilizations. Very exciting.

      Both directions, Eurasianists and conservatives, are periodically in demand by the Administration and it takes from there one or the other, depending on the situation. The trouble is that there is no economics there, and there cannot be, since the adequate conceptual apparatus remained with political economists, and, by the way, with neo-Marxists.

      But neither Eurasians nor conservatives can stand Marxism, considering it the root of all troubles, a perversion, an evil. Accordingly, they don’t like terminology. Along with the rest of political economy, by the way. They make their own designs. What's the result? But in the end, while Eurasians and conservatives are drawing contour maps of civilizations and arguing, they are managing the practical economy. ... Western liberals, who, in theory, are also not boom-boom, but are sitting on financial flows. And they will probably rule for a long time. That's the whole story, in a nutshell.
      1. -1
        28 December 2023 15: 47
        There are also middle-aged people: Rustem Vakhitov, for example. One of the most profound and original modern philosophers, in my opinion.
  7. +3
    28 December 2023 06: 35
    What would happen if, and what would happen if, and maybe...
  8. +3
    28 December 2023 06: 36
    You can, of course, discuss philosophical issues for a long time... But analyzing the past, a simple question arises -
    Does it make sense to turn to the west, then to the east, then to the south, so that it would be more convenient for us, how to say...
    Either we build 3 temples a day, then we study Islam, then we study Chinese...
    Here, either take off your cross or put on your panties.
    The concept of “building relationships” and “turnaround” is translated into simple Russian by asking for any trade preferences, the possibility of gray imports, because to offer nothing except oil and political support for Hamas or the Taliban (* although it’s funny, but a terrorist organization banned in Russia) can not.
    Therefore, we provide deep philosophical justifications for our deflections, so that people of different levels of education “snatch up” the idea.

    Be a developed country with a strong economy - and the world itself will turn to you and become comfortable.
  9. +2
    28 December 2023 06: 49
    Quote: Lev_Russia
    By the way, there were attempts to enter Kyiv, but they ended rather sadly

    Can you provide a link to the source of knowledge? I somehow missed such attempts.
  10. +17
    28 December 2023 06: 54
    Remember? It’s still a shame to watch. Khomeini warned against this path

    From 1985 to 1996, the mass of people in Russia changed beyond recognition.
    The period of government of GMS-EBN is the most vile and cynical page in the history of our country.
    The peak of hypocrisy is the EBN center built with budgetary funds...
  11. +13
    28 December 2023 07: 49
    "The Russian government is trying with all its might to distance itself...
    If they wanted to distance themselves, they started with the simplest thing: they destroyed the EBN temple, they imprisoned Chubais, and they cursed the hunchback. And so, the article justifies Putin’s mediocrity. Elections are coming soon. The grunters will come running now...
    "Russia is the most democratic country in the world - four months before the elections no one knows the candidates, but everyone knows the winner...."
    1. +4
      28 December 2023 10: 59
      Elections are coming soon.
      Elections in our country have two stages. First. Elections, elections, all candidates.... not of traditional sexual orientation, in the figurative sense of the word. Second. Vote, don’t vote anyway... the one who won the previous and elections before last. And by and large, elections are a beautiful, ancient custom. This is our tradition and we keep it. smile
    2. -2
      28 December 2023 15: 49
      “If they wanted to distance themselves, they started with the simplest thing: they destroyed the EBN temple.” This is hardly possible. But at least they reformatted the content of the exhibition.
    3. -3
      29 December 2023 11: 48
      Quote: steel maker
      The grunters will come running now
      It’s like looking into the water: 12 grunters in a day plus you.
      1. +1
        29 December 2023 15: 05
        What, brother Shishkin, is it hard to be a guardian in a world where money rules? Hard.
  12. -7
    28 December 2023 07: 52
    To create a sovereign state, you need an idea, at least one, at least a simple one.....
    BUT for it to really work, it must be taken seriously. For real.

    There has never been anything like this in Russia. A thousand years of effort, even by saints and righteous people, did not produce any results.

    Unlike the West and the East, neither the people nor the state have ever taken the Russian Church seriously. Just like science. This was all just an attribute of Civilization, “so that everything would be like that of white people.”
    And 70 years of efforts by Soviet commissars led to the exact opposite.

    Ideas are not needed here. Because first we need a Master who will force them to perform and, of course, to perform them himself...... laughing ...... Well, if such a person comes, then even more so the idea itself is not needed at all. Then what difference does it make whether it is there or not, if you have to do it anyway?
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    2. +1
      28 December 2023 16: 56
      Ivan! In my opinion, ideas work when factories work. In times of anarchy and collapse, ideas also work, but ideas of anarchy. Now there is a lot of talk about ideology, I think they will not offer anything, there is nothing to offer as a state ideology, because, according to Lenin, it must master the masses.
  13. -6
    28 December 2023 08: 07
    IMHO, attempts to enter the “golden billion” are not only not over, but also cannot be over, since otherwise the risks of the collapse of our country increase many times over.

    SVO, as a continuation of policy by other means, is an attempt in the same direction.

    In the end, raising the well-being of the population to a competitive level is the goal of any government, unless, of course, this government is biased by religion or other non-materialistic ideology.

    The main reason for the collapse of the USSR was the low standard of living of the population compared to the West and the lack of prospects for increasing it.

    Let's imagine that the level of well-being of the people of Ukraine suddenly turns out to be significantly higher than ours. In this case, Russia will face unpredictable shocks. IMHO, our government understands this perfectly well, and therefore the scale of the SVO is what it is, and not wider, and it depends on our economy. Our people should not become poor, otherwise the meaning of everything is lost.

    Clausewitz said that war is a continuation of politics by other means, but he also said that politics is a continuation of economics. Looks like he was right.
    1. +5
      28 December 2023 08: 45
      "The main reason for the collapse of the USSR is the low standard of living of the population..."
      Young man, don't bring the blizzard!!!
      1. -1
        28 December 2023 11: 22
        Alas, I am not a very young man.

        In the second half of the 80s, I was an adult, a family man, I had a child. There was nothing to feed the family. I had money, I earned decent money, but I couldn’t buy anything with money, the stores were a mess, I had no connections.

        Therefore, when people like Yeltsin promised that they would fill store shelves and when we were shown these shelves in the West, many supported Yeltsin - others, his opponents, talked about some more abstract values, and not about goods. Products were more important to us.

        In addition, many from high stands said that Russia feeds the entire USSR and half the world, but this should not be done, we must dissolve the USSR, abandon our allies who do not pay us, and then the shelves will be filled.

        How can one call the standard of living high if people cannot even buy food in a store? This is a low standard of living, what else.

        Therefore, the bulk of the population was indifferent to the dissolution of the USSR and the abandonment of allies.

        The USSR collapsed first in our heads, then in reality.

        The people of Russia must have a decent standard of living, as history may repeat itself. I see that the authorities understand this. Further - see above.
        1. -5
          28 December 2023 13: 13
          The people of Russia must have a decent standard of living, as history may repeat itself

          And who should provide this decent standard of living?
          Until the people of Russia themselves understand that for a decent standard of living they need to work. If you don’t hold a rally, nothing will change!
          1. -1
            28 December 2023 13: 48
            The people of Russia must have a decent standard of living, as history may repeat itself

            And who should provide this decent standard of living?
            Until the people of Russia themselves understand that for a decent standard of living they need to work. If you don’t hold a rally, nothing will change!

            Everyone plowed like Papa Carlo. But the food didn’t go to the horse.
            Either they fed the blacks, then they built the unparalleled Buran, and half the country generally worked hard on the army and navy. As a result, there was no bread and butter left. belay
          2. -3
            28 December 2023 14: 41
            We always worked hard - both then and now.

            But then we worked and worked, but there was nothing to buy. Then they started holding protests - and there was something to buy. True, the USSR is gone.
          3. +3
            28 December 2023 17: 14
            Valery Mamai! The people realized that they need to work, but the factories are not working, and those that work pay little, they need professionals, but they are already ready, they also learn professions at home, but for a long time and for a minimum wage, a state program is needed, but it is easier to sell raw materials abroad, this quickly, hassle-free, profitable and by and large suits everyone, you just need to talk about patriotism and calmly withdraw capital abroad. The topic is vast, but has no solution yet.
        2. +4
          28 December 2023 15: 23
          Don’t tell fairy tales about the standard of living in the USSR. My young father and mother in the mid-80s dressed normally and had a washing machine, a telephone and a TV. And they were not thieves. They just worked and studied, and didn’t drink after work like some people. There was enough for life. They were given housing for free because of my sister’s birth. So say that you sold yourself, your parents and your family for “affordable” jeans, Coca-Cola and Snickers. The situation with consumer goods gradually normalized and supplies in cities gradually leveled out. The whole country fell for a drunk and a traitor to the cause of Marxism-Leninism.
          1. -4
            28 December 2023 16: 31
            It’s not your truth, and you don’t need to make up fairy tales, mom’s or dad’s.

            Just as problems began around 86, they did not end until the very end of the USSR. I myself saw everything then and went through everything - and Prohibition, when I stood in line at 6 am to buy two bottles of vodka for a friend for a wedding - by the way, the store opened at 14.00. And long lines for everything, when you get in line and don’t know what it’s for - and no one around knows, it doesn’t matter what it’s for, we’re worth it - we’ll find out. In two hours...

            Then coupons were introduced - and it became easier, at least you could buy flour, sugar, butter and vodka, and then exchange the excess - for example, we didn’t need that much vodka, we exchanged it for sugar. For a family of 4 people, 8 bottles of vodka a month was too much :)

            I myself, too, not only drank - I worked two jobs and studied in the evening. And I got a washing machine - a friend sent it to me from Vladivostok in Voronezh.

            Therefore, for the most part, we supported Yeltsin, since the rest, those who were in power, did not even promise anything. And this one promised. That’s why we put our party cards on the table - we didn’t believe these faces on TV, but we believed the empty shelves.

            So we did not defend the half-dead monster, the USSR. The goods on the counter are more important than half-dead monsters.
          2. -2
            29 December 2023 12: 29
            Quote: cast iron
            So say that you sold yourself, your parents and your family for “affordable” jeans, Coca-Cola and Snickers.
            The materialistic worldview assumes that only material values ​​are true, where ideals have no value, having in Soviet ideology only instrumental value for the transition to “everyone according to their needs,” but jeans do. Those who “repainted” did not even sell themselves, but only replaced an outdated tool with a more effective one, striving for the same thing as before. Or do you think that before Gorbachev, every Soviet person fell asleep/woke up with the thought “what have I done/can do today for the victory of communist ideals throughout the world”? No, these ideas did not become material force.
        3. +1
          1 January 2024 03: 44
          Quote: S.Z.
          Therefore, when people like Yeltsin promised that they would fill store shelves and when we were shown these shelves in the West,

          Quote: S.Z.
          In addition, many from high stands said that Russia feeds the entire USSR and half the world, but this should not be done, we must dissolve the USSR, abandon our allies who do not pay us, and then the shelves will be filled

          You see, even in your words, the betrayal of the elite comes first.
    2. -4
      28 December 2023 15: 50
      “Attempts to enter the “golden billion” are not only not over, but also cannot be over, since otherwise the risks of the collapse of our country increase many times over. The SVO, as a continuation of the policy by other means, is an attempt in the same direction.” Maybe . To paraphrase Vysotsky: they are at the door, and we are at the window...
      1. -2
        28 December 2023 16: 33
        The choice is simple - either we get rich, that is, we become part of the golden billion, or we become poor, turning into a third world country that is used by the countries of the golden billion.

        We think and choose.

        People are divided into shearers and shearers (c) Talleyrand.
  14. +3
    28 December 2023 08: 25
    Interesting article. Respect to the author. At the end of the 80s, Khomeini did not even notice such an appeal to the marked Gorbi; everyone then reveled in “exposing the crimes of the USSR and Stalin personally.” And even the Uzbek “Cotton Case”, which was carried out by the “selfless” Gdlyan and Ivanov. Where these “billions” ultimately went is still unknown. They probably found it and shared it.
    1. +10
      28 December 2023 08: 51
      Good afternoon,
      At the end of the 80s, Khomeini did not even notice such an appeal to Gorbi the marked

      And no one noticed, such an insignificant episode, a representative of an underdeveloped country approached the leader of a superpower with an extravagant proposal.
      It is now Iran that has caught up with our country, or we with them, and in those days, “we have every second in Turkmenistan - Ayatollah, and even Khomeini,” and any Central Asian republic of the USSR was economically more powerful, developed and civilized than Iran.
      1. +9
        28 December 2023 09: 52
        And now we buy drones from them, and in the future cars, and we are very proud of this cooperation.
        1. -2
          28 December 2023 15: 51
          We also seem to be purchasing cars already.
          1. 0
            29 December 2023 04: 12
            Quote: Igor Khodakov
            We also seem to be purchasing cars already.

            We bought cars from them twenty years ago. There were a lot of “Samands” driving around the streets back then, almost on a par with “Nexias”.
      2. +5
        28 December 2023 11: 28
        Those who compare modern Russia with the USSR simply do not understand how great the difference is.
  15. +10
    28 December 2023 08: 52
    Well, with the current problems with migration, we will soon accept Islam as Khomeini said, and our hand-creators at the top will drag us into the happy Middle Ages..
    1. +11
      28 December 2023 09: 53
      Judging by some of our subjects, we already have one foot there.
    2. +11
      28 December 2023 11: 47
      with current migration problems

      What are the problems with migration?
      There are no problems with migration - it’s in full swing, roaring like a stormy stream!
      Another thirty, forty, fifty million “new Russians” will be brought in - and everyone will be happy.
      And they will soon completely forget about the “old Russians” - who is interested in stories about extinct tribes?
  16. -9
    28 December 2023 09: 04
    There is a science fiction novel on the topic of the future of Russia, author Yuri Nikitin: “The Russians are Coming,” I recommend reading it, I agree with the author. A series of novels.
    1. +8
      28 December 2023 11: 39
      Quote: Ezekiel 25-17
      "The Russians are coming", I recommend reading

      This is where in Russia everyone converted to Islam? This is cheap waste paper, nothing more. And so this Islam is already creeping into the agenda from all the cracks.
  17. +7
    28 December 2023 09: 49
    Khomeini, after coming to power, destroyed all left-wing organizations, and it would be strange for the head of a communist state to listen to this man. Previously, you had to write letters.
  18. +4
    28 December 2023 11: 12
    In fact, it is much more profitable for the elites to sell themselves to the West, since the West provides exclusive opportunities for the growing elite - to teach children at the best universities, to keep money in Western banks, to be protected by Western courts, to bask in the luxury of buying villas, castles and yachts. Also, following instructions in politics is much easier than thinking for yourself and they will give you advisers, you just need to keep the people in line and ensure the sale of resources at bargain prices.
    Please note that oligarchs are sued exclusively in London court.
    The author mistakenly talks about the country, and the elites benefit from personal power; they don’t care about the country and the people.
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  20. +1
    28 December 2023 11: 58
    Hegel's overcoat is just a new meme!
  21. +7
    28 December 2023 12: 23
    I don’t know everything that Khomeini wrote, but this text is enough for me: “... I urge you so that, by destroying the edifice of Marxist illusions, you do not find yourself captive of the West.”
    There is a deep misunderstanding here that the destruction of Marxist “illusions” inevitably leads to captivity of Western imperialism.
    Proof of this is Islamist Iran itself.
    Khomeini came from the West (from Paris) to fight Marxism in Iran. His Iran also knocked on the Euro-Atlantic door, it kept Iranian money for the West just like Russia, but it was also not allowed there, just like Russia, freed from “Marxist illusions.”
    For Gorbachev, it was much more useful to read and understand not Khomeini’s letter, but Stalin’s “Economic Problems of Socialism” from 1952. Moreover, they are in the original Russian language (and not in translation). Only then could he understand why in the world of imperialism there is always a candidate for world hegemon, who unites against himself all the competitors that his hegemony threatens.
  22. +3
    28 December 2023 12: 33
    Russia, throughout the entire period of its historical existence, followed the same paths that the “historical” West followed after the adoption of Christianity. The same, the initial dominance of Christian ethics, but, due to the faster development and growth of cities in Europe than in Russia, the urgent need to spread logic in the consciousness and culture of the urban population, led the West, first to the works of Thomas Aquinas, the development of medieval scholasticism, the emergence of the first universities, the first guilds and merchant guilds, and, ultimately, to Protestantism. Medieval scholasticism, Aristotle’s logic and the creation of universities in our country were “delayed,” on the one hand, by the heavy Tatar-Mongol yoke, which destroyed city self-government, and, on the other hand, by the policy of the Orthodox Church, defending its “orthodox” ethical ideals and organizational interests. Therefore, when Muscovite Rus' finally “threw off” the yoke at the end of the XNUMXth century, then... It was forced to invite masters of fortification, cannon casting and gunpowder manufacturing from Europe (... And so it went on for two hundred years! And the reforms of Ivan the Terrible, and cavalry, and infantry regiments of the "new order" in the XNUMXth century, all this is a consequence of the dominance of only Christian "ethics" in the consciousness and culture of the Russians of that time. And in the West the "manufacturing" industrial revolution had already begun...
    The Industrial Revolution, which caused an urgent need for an in-depth study, systematization and structuring of the laws of physics, led to the emergence of applied and fundamental science, the philosophy of dialectical materialism and... Completely new state and suprastate systems, bourgeois regular armies, new technologies, the victory of capitalism, the emergence, following for financial, industrial capital, and, first, colonial conquests, and then, the world’s most brutal wars for these colonies. How did Russia respond? Right! The reforms of Peter I, the creation of universities, a regular army, the formation of a military feudal-bureaucratic empire and the transition of the Church under the control of this very empire, the appearance in the cities of a significant layer of “commoners” and the formation of the first circles of “populists”. Real life required MATERIAL “bourgeois” reforms in the economy, foreign and domestic politics, education, and the consciousness and culture of the overwhelming mass of the population were only based on the foundations of Christian ethics with “interspersed” of medieval scholasticism. How could the Russian society of “sheep and shepherds,” where social relations were regulated by the concepts of Christian conscience, resist the Western predatory “Society of Wolves” and the bourgeois, in consciousness and culture, “Social Contract”? No way! Therefore, ALL revolutions and all world wars are “on our heads” (...
    Why all this “speech”? To the fact that we, as always, urgently need further development of the philosophy of dialectical materialism. That is, physics, logic and ethics. In a complex complex of interaction and interdependence, and not separately or in parts! Otherwise, we will continue to be the “humus” on which ALIENS will parasitize and thrive. Why? Because only a scientific and methodological philosophical worldview is able to form the most advanced social political economic theory of Social development. And, only after the creation of such a theory, is it possible to develop a modern political ideology “for a historical perspective”, without which we will be FORCED to study religious “ethics” again. Only this time, Muslim(...

    P.S. Experience is the criterion of Truth.
    1. -5
      28 December 2023 12: 43

      there is an urgent need for further development of the philosophy of dialectical materialism

      P.S. Experience is the criterion of Truth.

      So dialectical materialism lost in 91, or did you like it and want to repeat it?
      1. +8
        28 December 2023 12: 48
        To whom and what did he lose? Corruption of the party, economic and Komsomol nomenklatura? To those who stole the country, property, mineral resources, means of production, supply and service infrastructure from THEIR OWN POPULATION, who robbed US and allowed US ALL to be robbed by “strangers”? So who or what did he lose to?
        1. -3
          28 December 2023 12: 51
          So who or what did he lose to?

          The answer to this question is debatable and not short, so the main thing is that “lost”
          1. +1
            28 December 2023 15: 29
            Protestantism also did not immediately “win” over good Catholics.
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              30 December 2023 13: 35
              Quote: cast iron
              Protestantism also did not immediately “win” over good Catholics.

              Capitalism too... in France it took three revolutions...
    2. 0
      28 December 2023 13: 05
      A great start and a completely illogical end.

      If we follow the path of the West and the West has gone ahead, then we must understand perfectly well what awaits us ahead - the West has already passed the path that is visible to us.

      If we do not want “outsiders” to take advantage of our position, we can simply look at how the West managed to avoid such a fate, take this into account and we will not be humus.

      But the Author, completely without connection with the previous text, offers us a special way, namely to create some kind of our own theory of Social development. And, apparently, experience it for yourself. We've already been through this. And precisely on the basis of dialectical materialism (which I have nothing against).

      By the way, revolutions and world wars are actually not only our history; France itself received no less in this regard. They only had 2 Napoleons :)

      Germany fought on two fronts in two world wars and lost both wars. I've really raked in so much!

      Other European countries also had their own problems, each with its own path, its own characteristics.
      1. +2
        28 December 2023 13: 27
        You are simply inattentive(. I did not propose any special path. I propose to develop what we have. What has been developing in our country since the time of M.V. Lomonosov, the famous Russian scientist who laid the foundation of materialist dialectics. I repeat, there is NO special path for There is no Russia. Either religious or scientific. Although, there is still a “broad road” of liberal populism. But judging by your “high military ranks” on your avatar, this one will look strange)...
        1. -1
          28 December 2023 14: 51
          Then I don’t understand at all what we need to develop - since I’m not very aware of what Lomonosov created, what we need to develop in order to catch up with the West. My modest ideas about dialectics are more connected with Hegel, Marx and Engels, and not with Lomonosov. Moreover, I cannot understand how any knowledge in the field of philosophy can affect our place in the global competition of capitals.

          I don’t know what you mean by “high military rank”, here all this is somehow assigned automatically. I don't care at all.
    3. -3
      29 December 2023 21: 40
      Dear, the essence is ignorance and laziness.
      We don't know world history well, that's for sure.
      It’s easier for us to grab onto someone else’s surrogate than to analyze the peoples around us, that’s two.
      In fact, there are not many sources of conceptual knowledge in the world, the packaging of knowledge sources is being modernized, and the essence flows from century to century, that’s three.
      The Persians, as an independent unit in history, will apparently be older than the Slavs, at least by a thousand years, but who knows, maybe they had common roots.
      The disadvantage of all Russian philosophy is that it is the philosophy of today. Russian philosophy, due to its ignorance, ignorance of world history, ignorance of the history of the peoples of the world, is fixated on itself. He cannot look beyond the horizon, does not see the strategy for the development of his people among other peoples of the world. Therefore, we do not have static institutions of statehood that would, like a skeleton, hold the body of the state in the historical ether, holding it for centuries without upheavals with the change of eras, regimes, and dynasties.
  23. ada
    +3
    28 December 2023 12: 56
    Ayatollah Khomeini's message to Gorbachev: is it still relevant thirty-five years later...

    No, it’s not relevant, we can disagree, but the question of the next “cross-crescent” campaign of churchmen for souls and lands (further on the list) is relevant. In this regard, the article caught my attention, but I would like to hope that the author lacks religiosity, otherwise...
    In general, it must be said that the payment and management systems of antiquity, such as those well known to us for their external manifestations and impact in everyday life at the level of daily human activity and at higher levels, as part of government structures and even supranational ones, say - Abrahamic religions, were Modern banking ecosystems or international monetary and financial systems are also very sophisticated, well, take for example the Fed or the IMF, and even more so, the products of an ordinary bank are no rival to them in terms of the scale of influence on the masses of peoples and their rulers. Yes, but! Oh, their symbiosis?! I believe that all of us who are living today have accepted this and regularly continue to pay for all the ambitions of the “fund holders” according to an unobtrusively issued invoice. But, money changers - there are money changers, they have the latest program ready - the ecosystem of the future, although there is a necessary condition - WW3 and there is no other way, yeah. It’s for nothing that they don’t like them, and yes, neither do the “Westerners,” but there are attractive conditions under the contract..., and there’s a “pantheon” to choose from, and you can refer to anyone, even Allah. And there, “pig like crucian carp” is a mere trifle and everything is in eco-style. Lepota. You just need to maintain the rating of a responsible consumer and then even your chosen GOD will be delivered to you personally in the shortest possible time and in the best possible way, directly to your brain for a long time in accordance with your contribution to a righteous cause with the possibility of extending the service directly from the nearest center for providing the population with everything or from your church (with appropriate worshiper rating)
    In short - you won’t surpass the future with a “letter”, it’s “late” to rush around, everything will be as always - a war for a place in the sun, and the time for sober thought has been lost and the results of the advanced achievements of previous generations in the education of the whole country have been trampled upon, the darkness of religious obscurantism has come and they will take advantage of this - While you pray, they will come to kill us, force us and make us dependent on their will.
    Yes, there is an interesting nuance regarding the indicators of a large-scale armed conflict, which can be characterized as a WW and defined as third in relation to such an indicator as the expected period of its onset. In general, without delving into the parameters and other definitions, it was funny presented by an individual person like this: “It will start again with the Jews.” And, when asked why this is so: “It will be so that you won’t feel sorry for them.” Doesn't remind you of anything? Yes, we had an interpreter, popularly nicknamed “Zhirik,” who would have explained or simply openly and unauthorizedly disseminated information containing state secrets, as usual.
    Well? And where, here, can we go to God? Could you please tell me? Or, maybe it’s better, he comes to us? Not?
    OK. Themselves - so themselves. You say the Scriptures - so, you need to learn to read it again, and not cross yourself or place your forehead on the floor.
    As a result, the attack of the clergy will bring us no small amount of people’s blood.
    1. +2
      28 December 2023 22: 59
      Dmitry, allow me a small remark, until the 18th century, the usury percentage varied from 33% per year, to 7-8%, if everything was bad in the famine years or the like, and the kings and other crowned entities, and even the Popes had to intervene directively. The percentage at approximately 5-7% per annum was unified somewhere at the beginning of the 18th century. Then he grew up, of course, but he never reached the level of 33% of antiquity. We do not take exceptions into account.
      1. ada
        0
        28 December 2023 23: 48
        You know, your remark is very interesting, unfortunately, I do not have knowledge in this matter that would provide any deep analysis, but life experience still (or still, in the old way?) gives the right to my own view of things and it seems to me , that you convince me of the correctness of their understanding by the given usurious interest rates and their dynamics. Thank you, I hope this information is correct.
        1. 0
          29 December 2023 00: 21
          Well, I don’t mean to campaign for “good money changers” and financial speculators. It just seems to me (and even quite reasonably) that this evil (loan interest) is somewhat overrated. In general, in this case we are already dealing with a certain historical memory, since over the centuries people have well remembered what it means to receive a loan for 30% of the future harvest. And this memory will remain for a long time. But every age has its own problems. In the 19th century, it was not the moneylenders who came first, but the exploitation of labor, reaching the point of grotesque, almost absurd. And here the moneylenders simply finished off the population, although they were not the main ones in this matter. After the Great Depression, the model changed again several times. Now this is definitely not the main factor slowing down development in the world (but, alas, the real brake is in Russia).

          They began to fight against judicial interest in its predatory form from the end of the 17th to the 18th centuries. In Europe for sure. Laws and restrictions were written, and problems with the Catholic Church grew along the way. On the one hand, the Vatican prohibited interest on loans, but on the other hand, the parishes were depositors with the same moneylenders, i.e. received from the same loan, or gave loans against collateral. In general, this entire collision (including, among other things), was described in vivid colors by Voltaire (“The Simple-minded”). This did not add to the people's love, as well as good attitude on the part of the growing bourgeoisie. But the crisis with the availability of gold in Europe provided good ground for the Puritans and Protestant business, because they praised economy.
          1. ada
            0
            29 December 2023 04: 28
            Quote: nikolaevskiy78
            ... It just seems to me (and even quite reasonably) that this evil (loan interest) is somewhat overrated. ...

            No, no, no, that’s not what I’m talking about, for the sake of softening the presentation with humor, I incorrectly used the term “money changers,” which takes somewhat away from the topic of discussion, but at the same time, I sincerely wanted to draw attention specifically to the complex system of managing the masses, undoubtedly developed by man for a very specific purpose, namely, to satisfy his desires, and even the introduction into it as an indisputable (indisputable) and all-encompassing center of something non-existent, but defining everything - this is brilliant and most importantly, which allows its “authorized representatives on earth" to achieve what you want. This is what I consider a growing threat.
            And everything would be fine, but there is such a concept as “resource” or, more useful for us to understand, “life-supporting environment” + that very isolated temporary formation of the domain of elementary particles, which has a characteristic information coloring of the “human” type with the possibility of self-reproduction. So, there will never be everything for everyone, because this state of matter is close to critical mass (i.e., complete saturation, almost equal to the concept of “everything”) and, as always, from somewhere, from outer space, a small “b” will definitely arrive right there, well, “Bah” - BV and decay to almost the concept of “nothing”. Everything is new. But this is a distant approach or conditionally a distraction smile . In practice, I view what is happening as a military man regarding existing and perceived threats and challenges to the country. To be honest, I do not remember a case or period when the possibility of using influence factors generated by religion was not used in NATO military planning when developing operations in the Eastern strategic direction. I am not familiar with US planning, but you can safely assume that everything NATO does is based on it.
            What follows from this? Toys with the invented will not lead to good, we have a serious opponent with real plans and he will use all our weaknesses, especially those that already have significant potential for the development of factors influencing the emerging situation at the right time, and he, apparently, has arrived. I consider any religion to be an immediate internal threat, since it is a cult, that is, a system of cultivating a certain human culture based on the non-existent and relying on the impossible, and this is death to us.
            Why do I think that such a period has come? Well, firstly, this is a calculated parameter for the pre-war periods and was determined long ago in the late USSR, simplified materials were freely communicated to the population, mainly to high school students and elementary students of schools of various levels of education, military personnel, and then in increasing order. There were also lecturers at enterprises and organizations, but it seems that a lot of it was “written down” and according to the left reports. Secondly, in the 90s, although the texts underwent changes, but not much, for those standing in line for the bourgeoisie, it was “a waste” to study thoroughly and they crossed out, basically, only offensive things about the unfinished whites, the underweight bourgeois, all sorts of Banderas, etc. from the Nazis, well, the corresponding slogans and “Glory to the CPSU” were not forgotten (who is not even a person at all No. ).
            They read this to me in class, I conveyed it to my subordinates, where has it all gone now? - It’s not clear, but the timing hasn’t changed much and that’s obvious to me.
            What am I getting at? Moreover, the state of affairs in the world, achieved as a result of the implementation of long-term military planning of the West, including the new combination of religion - a payment management system based on the rating of participants - parishioners, does not leave us with a place to occupy as a country - state and our religious obscurantism to them This helps a lot.
            Here. I’m not the only one emphasizing this here.
    2. 0
      29 December 2023 21: 48
      Well done! There are still thinking people in Rus'! Knows the materiel! We need to study a new subject in schools, “History of Loan Capital.” Maybe then the historical process will become visible differently.
  24. 0
    28 December 2023 13: 01
    Quote: Hyperion
    Firstly: learn how to address a comment correctly so that I receive a notification. Secondly: yes, I am a representative of God's chosen people, because... - “We are Russians, God is with us!” Joke. Thirdly: why should I have tolerance for those who consider me a second-class citizen, because I do not have the dubious honor of believing in Arab fiction? Fourthly: if you are a real Christian, you should know that Christianity considers Islam a heresy, with all that it implies...

    But Islam does not: on the contrary, it honors Our Lord Jesus Christ as the prophet Isa. Remember also these lines from the Epistle to the Romans: “... Do not avenge yourselves, beloved, but give place to the wrath of God. For it is written: “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay, says the Lord...” And finally: soldiers professing Islam and shedding blood for Russia must be respected.
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  25. +2
    28 December 2023 15: 17
    yes, GMS against Khomeini is a child from kindergarten
  26. +3
    28 December 2023 17: 58
    it is better for the people and the state to keep their distance from all these religions, and especially not to slide into fanaticism
  27. +3
    28 December 2023 21: 12
    Khomeini came to the wrong address. The task of the marked one was precisely to carry out the will of the Anglo-Saxon world. No misconceptions or
    understanding Purposeful and methodical work on the enemy under the guise of a simpleton - a tractor driver. Unfortunately, the system created by the IVS, which survived until the early 80s, turned out to be inflexible. She did not foresee a convinced traitor in the post of Secretary General. The position provided too many opportunities. Judas made excellent use of them.
  28. +1
    28 December 2023 21: 34
    Yes.... s..... The Russian people never waited for the coming of the “good Tsar”... The master did not come. We will have to give up our seats to migrants.
  29. -2
    28 December 2023 21: 39
    Judging by the abundance of feces spilled in the comments: the letter is still relevant to this day.
  30. +3
    28 December 2023 22: 44
    Islam has a good ideology, which has little (except for the highest name) from Christianity and, most importantly (in my opinion), condemns and prohibits interest on loans (the basis of capital).
    And now the GDP is fighting (trying) for a “new world order” and leaves the main social services in operation. ideological tenets of capitalism.
    After all, the wolf has admitted more than once *GDP) that capitalism has outlived its usefulness. However, apart from the struggle for a special place for Russian capital in the world, we see nothing.
    It doesn’t even try to make Russia a truly “social” state (an example for the whole world, like the USSR was).
    The rich have income. For the poor - taxes.
    What kind of economic and socio-philological idiocy must the “ELITE” of the state reach in order to introduce personal income tax (personal income tax) on the CASH ALLOWANCE OF MILITARY SERVANTS (and those equated to them).
    Economists, sociologists, political scientists, philologists, etc. - you understand the difference between income (what you earned, albeit through the sale of your labor power) and monetary (clothing, food) allowance. This is what they gave.
    1. +4
      28 December 2023 23: 36
      Instead of loan interest, they simply take part in the share through an affiliated company. There are other forms, but this is the most common. In any case, money, both in the East and in the West, costs money. Loan interest also has its advantages. The question has always and at all times been not so much a percentage as a “surplus”, and it has many faces.
      1. ada
        +2
        29 December 2023 00: 19
        Quote: Alexander Tkachenko
        Economists, sociologists, political scientists, philologists, etc. - you understand the difference between income (what you earned, albeit through the sale of your labor power) and monetary (clothing, food) allowance. This is what they gave.

        Quote: nikolaevskiy78
        ... Instead of loan interest, they simply take part in the share through an affiliated company. There are other forms...

        Undoubtedly, and I can also assume that this is an additional level of financial control in the RF Armed Forces and other troops and military forces of organizations (with military service) of ministries and departments, other related opportunities for obtaining various information for the state apparatus.
        1. +1
          29 December 2023 00: 26
          I think that the bigger problem here is that they don’t want to change accounting methodologies. This is not only personal income tax, VAT has been discussed for years, which circulates in supplies from state producers as to state contractors. They've been talking for years, but to no avail. They don't want to change anything.
  31. 0
    29 December 2023 02: 39
    It is clear that Islam cannot become the dominant religion in Russia.


    Why did the author decide this?
    Easy!
    Kadyrov is the next president, Sharia instead of the constitution and forward...

    For in Tsymbursky’s books there is rigor and depth of thought.


    Candidate of Philological Sciences (dissertation on Homer) as a geopolitical philosopher?

    Let whoever wants to honor his creation. I personally did not master:
    https://archipelag.ru/ru_mir/ostrov-rus/
    1. +1
      29 December 2023 07: 34
      Everything will be simpler, more banal, but longer - if the demographic situation remains as it is now, then there will simply be more Muslims, and then Islam will come as the dominant religion.

      I don't see any reason why it would be different.
      1. 0
        29 December 2023 13: 07
        ...then Islam will come as the dominant religion.


        In my opinion this is a "horror story".

        Now approximately 2,2 billion people (32% of the total human population) profess Christianity, 1,6 billion (23%) - Islam, 1 billion (15%) - Hinduism, 500 million (7%) - Buddhism.
        Non-believers - 0,9 billion (13%).

        And throughout the 20th century, the share of Christians in the total population remained virtually unchanged.
        The share of Islam has increased, but only slightly.
        And most of all, the share of non-believers (atheists, agnostics, etc.) has increased. At the beginning of the 20th century there were negligible numbers of them, but now there are almost a billion of them.

        And I doubt that this trend will somehow change further.
        1. 0
          29 December 2023 14: 35
          I'm only talking about Russia.

          You look at the demographic situation in Russia, where Russians are gradually disappearing from the scene and being replaced by people of other nationalities, mostly Muslims. This applies to both population reproduction and immigration.

          I meant this inexorable, fortunately not fast, process.

          And in Russia, the share of believers has been increasing over the past 30 years, although perhaps this is still a post-Soviet syndrome.
          1. +1
            29 December 2023 15: 09
            I'm only talking about Russia.


            Religiosity in Russia for 2021 according to VTsIOM:
            - Orthodox (66%)
            - non-believers (14%)
            - Muslims (6%)
            ...
            And here, too, as in the world, the fastest growing percentage is the share of non-believers.

            In Russia, the share of believers has been increasing over the past 30 years


            Another very common misconception - apparently due to the clericalization and discrimination of atheists actively promoted by the state.
            But in fact, since 2006, according to all surveys, the religiosity of the population has only been falling.
  32. +2
    29 December 2023 12: 09
    Dear Leonid Ilyich didn’t manage to do a lot! And Shcherbitsky was supposed to become Secretary General and Aliyev Prime Minister! And an excellent program for the development of the electronics industry, which was wasted under the hunchback and a host of other excellent projects of the government and the state plan to intensify the construction of infrastructure facilities in the USSR. But Leonid Ilyich somehow died just in time and Andropov seized power, whose pets began to destroy the USSR! Under Andropov, almost the entire vertical of power was changed! Yegor Ligachev led this process! So, alas, the Ayatollah’s message was no longer interesting to anyone! Having put their hand to the bit, the Andropov camarilla began to destroy the legacy of the great generation of winners!!!
    1. 0
      29 December 2023 13: 32
      Dear Leonid Ilyich didn’t manage to do a lot!


      Right. If it had only lasted another 10 years, we would definitely have surpassed the United States. After all, we had very little left before the final victory in the Cold War.

      And Shcherbitsky was supposed to become Secretary General and Aliyev Prime Minister!


      Well, that's not true.
      Brezhnev would not have left Shcherbitsky, but Chernenko, who was his best and most devoted friend.
      But Aliyev was Andropov’s man, they worked together in the KGB!
      It was Andropov who in 1982 transferred Aliyev from Azerbaijan to Moscow and he also made Aliyev a member of the Politburo and 1st Deputy Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the USSR.

      MKASS of other excellent projects of the government and the State Planning Committee to intensify the construction of infrastructure facilities in the USSR


      Right. “Acceleration” was not invented by Gorbachev, but by Chernenko, in 1984.
      1. +1
        29 December 2023 13: 54
        I agree with you! But there are amendments, acceleration of the term launched under Chernenko, but the program itself was developed under Brezhnev, Andropov began to launch it in a greatly reduced form with elements of strengthening the fight for labor discipline! Aliyev and the KGB general, but the creation of the first secretary of the republic was under the jurisdiction of Kapitonov, as a nomenklatura of the CPSU Central Committee. Although Romanov was also a good candidate here! Both were considered potential! Although Leonid Ilyich wanted to see the party favorite Masherov instead of Kosygin! But a strangely bad accident ended his life! And in general, one gets the feeling that the USSR began to be destroyed purposefully by the hands of the KGB!!
        1. 0
          29 December 2023 15: 52
          Although Leonid Ilyich wanted to see the party favorite Masherov instead of Kosygin!


          Sorry, but this is completely untrue.
          Brezhnev did not respect Masherov at all and kept him a candidate for the Politburo for 14 years, never making him a member of the Politburo until Masherov’s death in 1980.
          And then he himself did not go and did not send anyone to Masherov’s funeral.

          Masherov (I personally think so) was unpleasant to him because he actually fought (as a partisan) and received the title of Hero of the USSR during the war, but Brezhnev went through the entire war as a political officer and already awarded stars to himself.
      2. 0
        1 January 2024 04: 17
        No, Kosygin came up with “acceleration” much earlier, at least by the 9th Five-Year Plan.
        Gorbachev carried out the reforms proposed by Kosygin. And then he fell for the idea of ​​“democratization” abandoned by the American spy Yakovlev.
        1. 0
          1 January 2024 20: 57
          fell for the idea of ​​"democratization"


          This was definitely a mistake.
          Democracy is not ours, not traditional.
          The Russian people need a tsar, but the crowd should not be allowed to participate in the elections of the supreme power.

          Yeltsin gave us the right Tsar-Father and now we live happily under him.
          But let us choose for ourselves - we would choose Zhirinovsky....
  33. +3
    29 December 2023 15: 49
    So dialectical materialism lost in 91, or did you like it and want to repeat it?

    They will still say that mathematics failed because the student did not solve the problem.
    Only the student loses, not science. The student receives a failure, but mathematics is not cancelled.
    In 1991, the party and people of the USSR lost, not the Diamat. And their fate after 1991 confirms the loyalty of the diamat.
  34. +5
    29 December 2023 16: 49
    The philosophers listed by Khomeini are more likely to be Zoroastrians than preachers of Islam. In general, the dawn of Arab scientists and thinkers ended when Islam arose in the 9-10th century and began to actively spread. I don't remember any great Arab/Islamic scholars since then.

    Religion is the opium of the people. Only secular values ​​contribute to the development of culture and science. Therefore, both Khomeini and Okhlobystin must go through the forest.
    1. 0
      29 December 2023 22: 01
      Timur, God exists, God cannot help but eat. But religion should not replace ignorance, here I agree with you.
  35. +1
    30 December 2023 12: 22
    Religion is the opium of the people.. A classic of the genre.. Faith is me. Religion is us.. Why do we need additional parties in politics?
  36. 0
    30 December 2023 23: 33
    The problem with capitalism is not that some people become very rich, but that wealth accumulates from generation to generation, and so class and class society are born first.

    Naked we come into the world, naked we leave. Let everyone become as rich as he can, but after death his fortune will return to the state.

    Change the inheritance law in this sense - and there will be neither extreme wealth nor extreme poverty - instead there will be more than enough money for education, research, healthcare, infrastructure and, of course, a modern army.