Personnel purge – yesterday Inkerman, tomorrow Sevastopol

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Personnel purge – yesterday Inkerman, tomorrow Sevastopol


Have you ordered any drones?


Why in the city of maritime glory they started filming and why they started with Inkerman, not the most problematic satellite of Sevastopol, is generally clear. However, I would like to find out why it is so late? It seems that this is not the first time that the well-known worked - until the thunder strikes, the man will not cross himself.



This year alone, about 60 cases of corruption were revealed in Sevastopol. At the same time, the most active purge of suspicious personnel in government agencies began after the recent report of possible attacks by the Ukrainian Armed Forces on the Black Sea base. fleet.

It's the attack drones Magura V5, quite real, makes one ask, where did the city authorities look before? And why is war necessary to clean up corrupt officials?

The desire of Governor Razvozhaev to insure against the background of possible attacks on the city from sloppiness and even possible betrayal of officials, of course, deserves respect. But a question immediately arises, which can be expressed in an allegorical form in the words of Gotsman from “Liquidation”: “I apologize very much, where are people like you born?”

If officials stole and neglected their duties, then most likely this happened before the attacks on Sevastopol. Where did the authorities look before?

Also a personnel question - whose car?


Let's start in the style of "Pulp Fiction" - from the end. On December 8, the now former head of the city of Inkerman, Balaklava district of Sevastopol, Rodion Demchenko, was fired from his post. The dismissal was carried out by decision of the Balaklava District Court.

And here extremely interesting facts are revealed, although the details of the dismissal are not particularly disclosed. It turns out that Demchenko himself did not receive any notifications about the court’s decision, did not receive a subpoena, and there was not even a notification about his expulsion from United Russia.

Whether all this is true or not is unclear, but he clearly has no intention of stopping his duties.

The second interesting fact is that a year ago government authorities learned that Demchenko had insured his wife’s car at the expense of the municipality.

But the most interesting thing is not even this, but the fact that Demchenko himself explained that the car was rented for the needs of the municipality on a free basis. But screenshots from the insurance database appeared on social networks, where the registration was actually registered in the name of Rodion Ivanovich’s wife.


In general, whose car it was in the end – the municipality’s or Demchenko’s wife – is still unclear. And how municipal property could come into the possession of the wife of the head of the municipality is also unclear. But it is known that 15 thousand rubles a year were allocated from the budget for insurance.

The governor of Sevastopol made it clear that Demchenko was removed precisely because of such ridiculous thefts from the budget.

But there are, however, some conspiracy theories about the reasons for the removal of the municipal head from office.

...And a garbage answer


In particular, in January 2023, a “garbage crisis” broke out in Inkerman; garbage was not removed from the city at all for half a month (Pervomaisky test site may stop working). Demchenko received decent funding from the mayor's office for garbage removal, complaining that there was not enough money. Perhaps he put some of these funds in his pocket.


On the same day, December 8, the (at that time former) head of the Sevastopol health department, Yuri Voskanyan, was sentenced to three years probation. It is noteworthy that Voskanyan carried out fraud with budget funds back in 2015, but for some reason the fact was revealed only now.

The ex-official was accused of having entered into a contract for the supply of an MRI machine to one of the hospitals, which was practically impossible to fulfill in terms of time, while in office. Despite the fact that there was a delay in the delivery of the device, he signed the act of acceptance and requested an amount of more than a million rubles from the budget. The hospital eventually received the device, but only in 2017, while it was not used, and then, according to the examination, it generally fell into disrepair.

If we take the criminal cases for November, the Department of Health of Sevastopol looks like some kind of bad place. In the previous month, the Gagarinsky District Court sentenced the former first deputy director of the department, Vladislav Nusinov, to eight years for bribery and negligence. (In Sevastopol, the ex-official was sentenced to eight years).

It's not even a bribe


As it turned out, when one of the city clinics was undergoing major renovations, the official simply blackmailed the head of the construction company. How?

And the fact that if he does not make repairs in his apartment at a price close to dumping compared to the real cost of the work, he will no longer enter into contracts with him. If he does, Nusinov will lobby for the supply of the company’s building materials to hospitals and clinics in the city.

The blackmailer was detained, as they say, with great fanfare - special forces of the Russian Guard in balaclavas and body armor, armed with AKS.

The conclusions are sad.

The authorities of the city of Russian sailors, which has special strategic importance for the country, for a long time turned a blind eye to what was happening in government institutions. It was only when the city's safety was threatened during the SVO that they began to scurry around frantically.

However, all efforts at any moment may turn out to be late, since anti-corruption officials have not yet reached the Black Sea Fleet and other law enforcement agencies. We don’t know what’s there yet. Or maybe we won’t find out, due to the fact that all such information, as a rule, is strictly classified.
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  1. +19
    17 December 2023 04: 31
    This year alone, about 60 cases of corruption were revealed in Sevastopol.
    1. man
      +29
      17 December 2023 09: 00
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      This year alone, about 60 cases of corruption were revealed in Sevastopol.

      15 thousand rubles a year, a discount for apartment renovations... some rogue corrupt officials in Sevastopol, Chubais per second is more than pi.3dil smile
    2. +21
      17 December 2023 09: 36
      Tell me, where do we go wrong?

      These guys were caught doing little things. Some kind of apartment renovation, some kind of car insurance, a device for a million... Are they begging there or what? Against the backdrop of our respectable officials who transfer government financial flows to their related businesses. Yes, so much so that you can’t find fault.
  2. +19
    17 December 2023 04: 32
    Yes, the facts are still modest, not numerous. I really don’t want to call them results. The trickery of officials in southern resort towns, of course, is widespread. But here the author is right - this theft from the treasury is essentially an economic betrayal, and there is only half a step from it to political betrayal.
    1. +31
      17 December 2023 05: 14
      The trickery of officials in southern resort towns, of course, is widespread.
      If only in the southern ones.. And in the northern, western and eastern ones too.. “For example, we have to fight a crook!” © Only here “The main thing is not to expose yourself during investigative actions...” System...
      1. +12
        17 December 2023 06: 20
        Recently, two generals were arrested .. “I sold my homeland” (c). No, not a house in the village... But I actually sold it....
    2. +14
      17 December 2023 09: 04
      Quote: Galleon
      The trickery of officials in southern resort towns, of course, is widespread.

      The trouble is that the officials of Sevastopol, just like you, consider the city of Hero Sevastopol to be a resort town... The land is a tasty dish, the beaches and the budget of Sevastopol are legitimate prey, and instead of developing the industrial and defense potential of the city, they are engaged in theft and theft. glampings, glampings have been renovating the Russian cultural site of the Historical Boulevard for eight years (Panoramas of the first defense of Sevastopol) They are stealing money.. Let's remember Ovsyannikov!! Mayor of the city. Vora. They do not understand the pride of real Sevastopol residents for their country, their city. More than half of my neighbors serve their Motherland. And the majority are behind the ribbon.
      1. +7
        17 December 2023 11: 24
        As a sailor, I don’t like Sevastopol. I love Severomorsk, Vladivostok, Kronstadt and Liepaja. I love Sovetskaya Gavan, where I served. Sevastopol has always been distinguished by its particularly brutal commandant’s office and patrols with punitive measures taken against military personnel. In addition, these frauds with land, real estate, etc. make it similar to resort towns, and not to Baltic, Polar or Pacific. It is in this context that my phrase was constructed. And I remember that he is a hero of the city. smile
        1. +4
          17 December 2023 18: 33
          Quote: Galleon
          Sevastopol has always been distinguished by its particularly brutal commandant’s office and patrols with punitive measures taken against military personnel. In addition, these frauds with land, real estate, etc. make it related precisely to resort cities, and not to Baltic, Polar or Pacific.

          The commandant's office has not been the same for a long time. The Marines are now busy with other things. Sevastopol was naval neat. a clean, smart, closed city. With an educated population, etc. Now the garbage has been eliminated, large numbers have run away, they thought there was fruit, sea, wine, roses, girls walking naked, but here there were alarms, warships, airplane flights. They abandoned their houses, apartments and left for Moscow, Murmansk, St. Petersburg, Vladivostok... they are sitting back, waiting... This is good... The city has become harsher, cleared of scale, all sorts of shells, fish stuck... And the attitude towards the land, frauds are connected with the desire of people to live in the south by the sea. In an ethnically Russian city. And unscrupulous people in power. It started with Ukraine Myla. be it not okay.
      2. +17
        17 December 2023 11: 34
        In this rotten vertical, it is a priori impossible to hold a position and not be a corrupt official... the system does not tolerate foreign bodies.
        I remember 10 years ago, in Pyatigorsk, the people took the governor’s protégé for a ride in the mayoral elections and elected the director of a waste incineration plant... six months later they opened a case against the poor guy for installing an automatic barrier in the city administration parking lot, which was not approved by the City Duma... he left on his own with a suspended sentence term.
        1. -7
          17 December 2023 13: 08
          Quote: kepmor
          In this rotten vertical, it is a priori impossible to hold a position and not be a corrupt official... the system does not tolerate foreign bodies.
          Not this way. The Soviet system of corruption has not undergone radical changes. Those who actually worked as managers necessarily worked alongside the corrupt officials, following the instructions of their superiors, diligently “not noticing” the corrupt activities of their colleagues in the management workshop, for normal salaries, bonuses and small handouts, such as individual permissions to use a company car with a driver in personal purposes, but was not involved in specific working corruption schemes. They, after all, served as scapegoats.
          1. +7
            18 December 2023 06: 55
            There is no point in blaming the mirror if your face is crooked! Are you tired of pointing fingers at the Union? In 100 years the USSR will also be to blame? There was no such corruption under the Union! For using a company car for personal purposes, people were thrown out of work, repairs at someone else's expense resulted in a time limit. Remind me of the name of the police colonel who was found with a million, not to mention eight billion?
            1. -5
              18 December 2023 12: 41
              Quote: KLM77
              Remind me the name of the police colonel who was found with a million
              I remember the surname of the Colonel General and his wife Galina, thanks to whom he rose so high from the colonel in 9 years. And they imprisoned him only after the death of her father Leonid Ilyich. Today, this level of nepotism is not observed.
              1. +4
                19 December 2023 09: 23
                Today, this level of nepotism is not observed.
                Aren't you funny yourself?! Do you even read the news sometimes? How old is Ramzan Kadyrov’s son, what orders has he been awarded and what honorary (?) positions does he hold? And it just leaked to the news. And we simply don’t know about the rest. But they allowed me, which means those who are higher allow themselves even more.
                1. -3
                  19 December 2023 09: 49
                  Quote: AKuzenka
                  Aren't you funny yourself?! Do you even read the news sometimes? How old is Ramzan Kadyrov’s son, what orders has he been awarded and what honorary (?) positions does he hold?
                  At least you'll laugh. You can find answers to all six of your questions online. Only his level, like the level of Ramzan himself (not media, but according to the table of ranks), is incomparable with Churbanov’s level. And his wife is far from Putin’s daughter.
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            2. -6
              18 December 2023 13: 17
              Quote: KLM77
              Are you tired of pointing fingers at the Union? In 100 years the USSR will also be to blame?
              You should at least learn to read, I haven’t written anywhere that the Union is to blame for today’s disorder. You’re probably tired of your hatred of Russia.
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  3. +27
    17 December 2023 05: 40
    What do you want? Under capitalism it’s the same everywhere. Race for money by any means. Why don’t these thieves make kickbacks to the top? don't pay off law enforcement officers? bully
    1. man
      +14
      17 December 2023 09: 04
      Quote: V.
      What do you want? Under capitalism it’s the same everywhere. Race for money by any means. Why don’t these thieves make kickbacks to the top? don't pay off law enforcement officers? bully

      Capitalism is a paradise for thieves and scammers smile
    2. +6
      17 December 2023 10: 55
      Why don’t these thieves make kickbacks to the top? don't pay off law enforcement officers?

      That is why they have tied up all sorts of riffraff, but no one is touching or intending to touch the big money, from which the categories you mentioned receive real income. It’s just that law enforcement officers were given the task of more actively fighting corruption in order to please the electorate on the eve of the elections, so they quickly caught the first minnows they came across on small things, while trying not to undermine their own food supply.
    3. -14
      17 December 2023 14: 03
      Quote: V.
      What do you want, under capitalism it’s like this everywhere
      On the contrary, the capitalist is not interested in corruption in his enterprise (he does not take bribes from his subordinates), as the director of a state-owned enterprise under socialism is interested in this; and for a capitalist the government is not the boss, but he, for example in the USA, has legal lobbyists on his payroll. Under socialism, the authorities only lived fatly from theft and corruption. Due to the centralization of production under Khrushchev, corruption increased sharply due to the absorption of artels by the state. Just as the CCP fought corruption, they realized that without private competition in the economy, they have no future.
      1. +15
        17 December 2023 15: 14
        I can't agree with you. Before the collapse of the USSR, he worked as a chief engineer, a deputy chief shipbuilder and a captain on a ship, and no one lived richly from theft and corruption. Both OHSS and KraiFinManagement worked efficiently. I admit that somewhere there were thefts not without this.
        But under the current system, kickbacks, murky financial schemes, and predatory loans are already in place at the initial stage. What can I say, remember the governor Khoroshavin, a police colonel with tens of billions of rubles and foreign currency in cash. hi
        1. -5
          17 December 2023 15: 22
          Quote: V.
          Before the collapse of the USSR... no one made a living from theft and corruption.
          Do you see any contradictions? The USSR was destroyed because its system prevented the transfer of super-lucrative (thieves') positions by inheritance, and those who acquired wealth and corrupt connections really wanted to turn them into capital that could be inherited. They cared about their own children. And the children, due to their misunderstanding and youthful maximalism, did not want to follow in the socialist footsteps of their parents, but wanted to work less and drive around the city in imported cars.
      2. +1
        18 December 2023 07: 03
        Impressive nonsense you are talking about! The capitalist does not need bribes in his enterprise, because he simply pays the minimum wage to workers, and pays bribes outside the enterprise to gain a competitive advantage. It’s funny to read you, it feels like a schoolboy who is far from real life, but who has learned Zen after reading a whole book, is commenting. laughing
        1. -3
          18 December 2023 09: 43
          Quote: KLM77
          and gives bribes outside the enterprise in order to gain a competitive advantage
          In the USSR, the director of the regional association of consumer service enterprises paid bribes to the secretary of the regional committee, who oversaw the "change house", and the director of the district trade department - to his supervisor. They paid a bribe to the OBKhSS. People's control of the grocery store director thanked him for the stick of sausage, bowed low, and moved on to the next store. And so it is everywhere. Stop lying about the “one mighty one”; As soon as the opportunity arose, your secretaries of the national republics ran away like rats. Because of such semi-literate babbles - proud of the social order, entrenched in government bodies and rowing everything for themselves like snowplows, the USSR rotted from the inside. The Bolsheviks at least had self-criticism, published discussions in the party press, and then blew it all away.
        2. +3
          19 December 2023 09: 27
          It’s funny to read you, it feels like a schoolboy who is far from real life, but who has learned Zen after reading a whole book, is commenting. laughing
          Do you think you read the book?! It seems to me that the usual training manual with very short abstracts, for clarity. Without facts - only theses.
        3. 0
          20 December 2023 16: 37
          Some kind of stupid person with the mind of a five-year-old, it seems. In our time, to be so stupid is either necessary for propaganda work or for real.))
          1. -2
            20 December 2023 20: 24
            Quote: AVESSALOM
            stupid man with the mind of a five year old
            I can also say good things about you: if you judge by your avatar, without reading the comments, then you have adequate self-esteem.
            1. 0
              20 December 2023 21: 41
              In reality, you are a stupid degenerate.)) Judging by your avatar...
        4. -1
          20 December 2023 20: 19
          Quote: KLM77
          Impressive nonsense you are talking about! A capitalist does not need bribes in his enterprise, because...
          You admit that a capitalist does not need bribes in his enterprise, which means the social spectrum of corruption is already narrower, there are fewer people involved. So why the nonsense? You are too impressionable, like Turgenev’s young lady.
      3. +1
        20 December 2023 17: 23
        the capitalist is not interested in corruption in his enterprise (he does not take bribes from his subordinates), as the director of a state-owned enterprise under socialism is interested in this;


        Do you think the director took bribes from workers under socialism?
        You have primitive ideas about corruption, but life is much more complicated.
        Corruption is usually created by officials, not directors, no matter social or capital. Secondly, the capitalist in our conditions is not able to control every accountant and director at large plants, given that the owner lives in another country, and there may be a dozen factories, and these accountants and directors, being hired personnel, can steal from the capitalist and from the salaries of workers.

        Under socialism, the authorities only lived fatly from theft and corruption.

        In the third, there are privatizers who, in addition to the plant, also grabbed a coal mine, a thermal power plant and heating networks through which they extract money from the population.
        Under socialism, there was no way to pump money through banks, and there was no luxury industry, so there was no outright theft.
        1. -1
          20 December 2023 20: 50
          Quote: nickname7
          Do you think the director took bribes from workers under socialism?
          Wrong assumption. At an industrial enterprise there were fewer bribes, but its director was forced to pay bribes to management in order to receive new equipment, good orders, and cover up his mistakes. The director took bribes from the head of the supply department, who stirred up shortage schemes, from the merchandiser, who re-graded goods in the store (weighting, counting and re-grading - the three pillars of Soviet trade) and did not shy away from theft of state property.
  4. +12
    17 December 2023 06: 06
    In a society where life is a competition, who will prick and betray whom?, all secret and closed, seemingly completely different organizations - such as the army, special services, nursing homes and mental hospitals, have a lot in common.....
    In essence, its internal closed life:
    they become hotbeds of terrible crimes.
    1. -5
      17 December 2023 14: 43
      Quote: ivan2022
      life is a competition to see who can beat and betray whom
      A sharp, but not far, transition from “life is a way of existence of protein bodies.” Those who see life from this perspective usually add “we are not like that, life is like that,” continuing the struggle for the existence of their “protein body.”
  5. +13
    17 December 2023 06: 38
    The authorities of the city of Russian sailors, which has special strategic importance for the country, for a long time turned a blind eye to what was happening in government institutions
    The trouble is that this applies not only to Sevastopol and its satellites, it also applies to Crimea and Russia as a whole. And how many other officials in Crimea are there who in their hearts do not support the Russian government, but are waiting for the return of the Kyiv government? Party purges periodically took place in the Soviet Union; today, an all-Russian purge of officials is overdue, harsh and without concessions.
    1. +7
      17 December 2023 10: 38
      Party purges periodically took place in the Soviet Union,
      This all stopped with the coming to power of Khrushchev Kukuruzny, now “what’s possible is what’s possible.”
    2. +6
      17 December 2023 10: 59
      Today, an all-Russian purge of officials is overdue, and it will be tough and without concessions

      And who will compile the lists for purges? Yes, the same officials, albeit from the law enforcement sphere and intelligence services. So, within the framework of the existing system, everything will come down to the redistribution of spheres of influence (food supply) and the elimination of competitors.
    3. +1
      17 December 2023 23: 24
      In 2014, a Ukrainian prosecutor threatened to kill me, shouted that he was a colonel, and swore an oath to Ukraine. According to my complaint, the internal security service of the prosecutor’s office, headed by Poklonskaya, dealt with him, I don’t know how it ended, no one told me anything, although according to the law they are obliged to, I know one thing: after 2014, he served Russia, or it’s probably more correct to say he receives money from the Russian prosecutor's office, and who he serves is unknown.
  6. 0
    17 December 2023 07: 15
    Read it like in the song:
    "Comrade, comrade,
    My wounds hurt
    My wounds hurt in the lump,
    To heal alone
    Another one will break out,
    And the third one opened in the bokeh.

    What were we fighting for?
    Why did we suffer?
    Why did we spill our blood?
    They're feasting there,
    They're walking there,
    And we’ll give them everything new!” (c)
  7. +15
    17 December 2023 09: 00
    If officials stole and neglected their duties, then most likely this happened before the attacks on Sevastopol. Where did the authorities look before?

    Where were the authorities looking when they allowed people to migrate to Russia? Like teenagers throwing snowballs at the Eternal Flame near St. Petersburg, they perked up. Deportation for violation of immigration laws. Not for insulting the memory of the millions who died in the Great Patriotic War, but for violating migration rules.
    Where did the authorities look when it became difficult for locals in Kotelnikovo to live among the new workers? Where did the authorities look when a regional deputy received income from a night tavern, which became known throughout Russia only after a rocket launcher was fired in this tavern and a fire killed people?
    And the tenders that took place five years ago, everyone was happy with everything, but in 23 it turned out that the prices there were too high, the traders were in disarray, and now who hasn’t seen any problems for 5 years and is now respected and untouchable?
    Now both the ICR and the GVSU are looking for, and naturally finding, those who gnawed off the budget. Why just this year? Was there no team before?
    1. +4
      17 December 2023 11: 04
      Now both the ICR and the GVSU are looking for, and naturally finding, those who gnawed off the budget. Why just this year? Was there no team before?

      If they only catch the kind of corrupt officials they write about in this article, then it’s more like searching for switchmen to imitate the fight against corruption for the electorate on the eve of the March event. If in Crimea they really steal only on the scale described here, then we can say that the most honest officials from all regions of Russia work there.
    2. 0
      20 December 2023 14: 48
      Dear Roman!
      The reason is simple - the “elections” of a permanent guarantor are just around the corner...
  8. +6
    17 December 2023 09: 06
    And further...
    Corruption is when a civil servant received benefits for certain actions.
    And if, after determining, well, for example, the winner of a government contract, the execution of the government contract, confirmation of the execution of the government contract, the representative of the contractor and the representative of the customer ate and drank together - is this corruption? The contractor thanked the customer so much that he did not “cling to commas”, but demanded actual execution with the required quality.
    1. +3
      17 December 2023 11: 33
      A representative of the contractor and a representative of the customer ate and drank together - is this corruption?

      ...drinks were served on the plane, served, iPhones were given... - from the same opera.
  9. man
    +8
    17 December 2023 09: 07
    Detained blackmailer, as they say, with great fanfare - special forces of the Russian Guard in balaclavas and body armor, armed with AKS.
    It’s strange that the tanks didn’t arrive laughing
    1. +2
      17 December 2023 10: 43
      It’s strange that the tanks didn’t arrive
      When about 5 years ago in the Moscow region, in Kratovo, they took a peasant who had gone crazy (the neighbors drove him), who had accumulated a decent amount of weapons for himself from the second Chechen war and began to shoot in all directions, it was a whole military operation with armored personnel carriers, special forces, etc. Vetoletov only for some reason it wasn't.
      1. man
        +3
        17 December 2023 14: 45
        Quote: Aviator_
        It’s strange that the tanks didn’t arrive
        When about 5 years ago in the Moscow region, in Kratovo, they took a peasant who had gone crazy (the neighbors drove him), who had accumulated a decent amount of weapons for himself from the second Chechen war and began to shoot in all directions, it was a whole military operation with armored personnel carriers, special forces, etc. Vetoletov only for some reason it wasn't.

        I readily believe this, but I doubt that the official extorting a discount on apartment renovations had a military military background. I have never met such blackmailers among those who actually fought...
        1. +1
          17 December 2023 15: 18
          I readily believe this, but I doubt that the official extorting a discount on apartment renovations had a military military background. I have never met such blackmailers among those who actually fought...
          It, of course, seems to be true, but you can become brutalized at any level. An ancient example is the “trophy case” under Stalin, and a relatively recent example is General Lebed
  10. -6
    17 December 2023 09: 21
    Putin is my president!

    Quote: R. Mamchits
    This year alone, about 60 cases of corruption were revealed in Sevastopol.

    People are working and it makes me happy.
    Corruption is an integral part of capitalism.
    To defeat corruption, capitalism must be eliminated.


    Quote: R. Mamchits
    The safety of the city was threatened during the Northeast Military District, they began to frantically scurry around.

    So the time has come. Ukrainian heritage will come back to haunt us for a long time...
    1. +9
      17 December 2023 11: 03
      To defeat corruption, capitalism must be eliminated.

      So simple? Do you think there was no corruption under feudalism? And under socialism I lived for almost 40 years and the word “blat” was a common noun. Another thing is the scale of corruption, with this we have the most impressive progress compared to socialism. request
    2. +1
      17 December 2023 11: 06
      During 70 years of socialism, not a single case of corruption happened? Don't mess with grandma.
      1. -1
        17 December 2023 11: 24
        Putin is my president!

        Quote: Saburov_Alexander53
        Do you think there was no corruption under feudalism?
        Quote: UAZ 452
        During 70 years of socialism, not a single case of corruption happened?

        "May the hand of the giver not go down, let the hand of the taker".

        Taking bribes does not mean being corrupt. This means being a bribe-taker. Corruption is a fusion of crime and power.
        1. +2
          17 December 2023 12: 04
          Did the cotton business not happen under the USSR? The main person involved was not a member of the Politburo of the CPSU Central Committee? What a lot of power! What about the Shchelokov case? Under Stalin, senior officials were not shot or imprisoned for corruption and embezzlement, but simply because they were automatically classified as enemies of the people for this, and well... the result is the same.
          1. -2
            17 December 2023 12: 15
            Putin is my president!

            Corruption is when crime and government are united.

            We all know very well what kind of criminal authority, and the initial capital of all oligarchs is initially criminal, containing one party or another. As an example - in Ukraine (see figure). It's the same in all other countries.
            1. +2
              17 December 2023 12: 23
              We all know very well what kind of criminal authority, and the initial capital of all oligarchs is initially criminal, containing one party or another.

              There is no arguing here: since there was only one party in the USSR, the situation “every crime boss has a party” is in principle impossible. All high-ranking corrupt officials were members of a single party. Is it surprising that this ruling party, or rather the traitors at its head (as it turned out, its entire leadership was almost entirely made up of traitors) led the great country to collapse?
              1. +2
                17 December 2023 12: 42
                Putin is my president!

                Quote: UAZ 452
                there was only one party in the USSR

                There is only one party, but it included Bolsheviks, Trotskyists and others...

                After the Bolshevik Stalin, only worn-out boots and a worn overcoat remained...

                The Trotskyist Khrushchev mercilessly fought against the legacy of the Bolshevik Stalin and his cadres in power...
                He returned the salary in envelopes (unaccounted for and not subject to taxes, sometimes several times higher than the real one) to all local leaders of the Central Committee, for loyalty to him... He passed the Law on the inviolability of the judicial system in relation to senior officials, and off we go...
                1. -1
                  17 December 2023 18: 24
                  To be honest, Khrushchev returned the practice of issuing money in envelopes, which was under Stalin and which Malenkov abandoned. This, by the way, immediately sharply reduced Malenkov’s popularity among the party apparatus.
                2. 0
                  17 December 2023 20: 18
                  Well, you have now actually confirmed that for most of the history of the USSR (from the mid-50s, at least), it was corrupted from the very top levels by systemic corruption. Or money in envelopes, several times higher than the official salary - #isthisother? More than 30 years of such practice - and everything was rotten, the ending was logical, because apart from traitors, there was simply no one at all levels of the “vertical”.
                  PS But weren’t there managers from the Stalin era in the highest echelons under Khrushchev? Where would he have gotten the personnel with which to replace the “Stalinist Guard” in a few years? So, based on logic, it turns out that the origins of what began explicitly under Khrushchev should be sought in the era of his undoubtedly great predecessor.
        2. 0
          18 December 2023 10: 10
          Quote: Boris55
          Taking bribes does not mean being corrupt. This means being a bribe-taker. Corruption is a fusion of crime and power.
          Bribes are taken by those who have power, and they are paid by those who have a head in the cannon, i.e. crime. That's all the merger is. Why this demagoguery?
      2. 0
        18 December 2023 13: 49
        Quote: UAZ 452
        During 70 years of socialism, not a single case of corruption happened? Don't mess with grandma.

        Are you laughing? Or are you teasing? there was not a single case of corruption... They tore up the grandmother and don’t worry.. laughing . Remember all the trade and trade union organizations... Through pull, for a service (this is also a bribe), like you give me, I give you, from a trip to the GDR, to a subscription to good books, imported furniture, admission to a university, scarce products, clothes, getting a good job, etc.. Everything is through connections, everything is for a service, and some for cash... hi
        1. +1
          18 December 2023 18: 42
          Excuse me, but did you really see the question mark in my comment? Or were you responding to my opponent, who argued that corruption occurs exclusively under capitalism?
          1. +2
            18 December 2023 20: 53
            Quote: UAZ 452
            that corruption occurs exclusively under capitalism?

            It means I mixed up who to answer to. Sorry! hi
    3. +1
      17 December 2023 18: 19
      Quote: Boris55
      Corruption is an integral part of capitalism.
      To defeat corruption, capitalism must be eliminated.
      Do you think that the DPRK has not yet eliminated it?
      On December 23, 2016, WPK Chairman Kim Jong-un gave a speech at the opening of the First All-Party Meeting of Chairmen of Primary Party Organizations... In his speech, he announced the decision to begin a large-scale ideological struggle against bureaucracy in order to eliminate the consequences of this phenomenon, including corruption
      Then bureaucracy can be blamed on the bourgeoisie, and everything else. We settled in well. Just a sect of witnesses to holy socialism and the coming communism with broad strides.
      I just want to shout: comrades, if you walk wide, you’ll tear your pants again!
  11. +9
    17 December 2023 09: 40
    Moscow is not a small thing for you to pick through your pockets.
    Someone would dig there...
    1. -1
      17 December 2023 10: 25
      Putin is my president!

      Quote: Million
      Moscow is not a small thing for you to pick through your pockets. Someone would dig there...

      Don't worry, they're digging:

      “Almost 9 thousand people appeared in court over the nine months of 2023 on charges of corruption. The number of Russians involved was revealed on Friday, December 8, in an interview with TASS by the Chairman of the Investigative Committee of Russia, Alexander Bastrykin.

      According to the head of the Investigative Committee, over the nine months of 2023, employees of the department brought to justice 336 corrupt officials with a special legal status. Almost 40 percent of the accused committed corruption crimes in the law enforcement sphere."

      https://lenta.ru/news/2023/12/08/sledstvennyy-komitet-raskryl-kolichestvo-privlechennyh-za-korruptsiyu-rossiyan/?ysclid=lq95ul7xtb814140354
  12. +10
    17 December 2023 10: 08
    In general, in Crimea, the media from time to time wrote about major scandals.
    but usually this was when 2 large owners did not divide the captured land of the third.
    and petty corruption, as here in the article - but who is interested in it? Single device, single apartment, car...
    Funny.
    According to the media, there were fights for large territories of former sanatoriums. Roads. Gakhification of the entire Crimea. Coastal property...etc.
    1. +3
      17 December 2023 11: 11
      In the cases you listed, there are few people willing to dig - there are leads leading to large Moscow offices, and everything has been “caught” with law enforcement officers. And since plans to combat corruption are based on the number of “ticks”, it is easier to grab the number of those needed for reports who cheated with budget money by a WHOLE 10 thousand.
  13. -1
    17 December 2023 10: 53
    Quote: Boris55
    Putin is my president!

    Quote: R. Mamchits
    This year alone, about 60 cases of corruption were revealed in Sevastopol.

    People are working and it makes me happy.
    Corruption is an integral part of capitalism.
    To defeat corruption, capitalism must be eliminated.


    Quote: R. Mamchits
    The safety of the city was threatened during the Northeast Military District, they began to frantically scurry around.

    So the time has come. Ukrainian heritage will come back to haunt us for a long time...


    To defeat corruption, capitalism must be eliminated.

    And return to what period of our past?
    In the NEP? In the roaring years of 29-33? In the 36-39th? In the years 48-51? In "liver pies"? In the 70s? Maybe to the "fish shops"?
    There is no corruption in capitalism. But there is lobbying. There is commercial bribery. There is illegal use of information.
    And your upper right corner, where “Putin is my president,” is actually the use of the public for personal purposes.
    1. -2
      17 December 2023 11: 45
      Putin is my president!

      Quote from Fangaro
      And return to what period of our past?

      In Stalinsky (in the years 38-52) - taking into account our current development.

      Quote from Fangaro
      There is no corruption in capitalism.

      Capitalism is the original criminal capital. Isn't this corruption?

      Quote from Fangaro
      “Putin is my president” is generally the use of the public for personal purposes.

      Aren't your posts the same thing?
      You defend your point of view - I defend mine.
      No one is stopping you from writing that your president is Zelya or Biden.
      I'm proud of mine, and you're proud of yours?
    2. -1
      18 December 2023 10: 29
      Quote from Fangaro
      Your upper right corner, where “Putin is my president,” is actually the use of the public for personal purposes.
      And if Boris55 wrote “Putin must leave” - would it be something different? And if you write this not in the top corner, but in all comments, this is not “using the public for personal purposes.” You get out of it like snakes, shielding a rotten system instead of an honest analysis of mistakes and comprehension of problems. This can be done only by those for whom the ultimate dream is not to build a fair and effective social system, but to become a deputy from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, or at least an assistant to improve their status and well-being, as well as those for whom it is important to rock the current government and disorganize its work in the Russian Federation, so that turmoil and bedlam would begin here to the delight of the enemies of Russia. The latter, according to my estimates, are the majority.
  14. 0
    17 December 2023 15: 27
    Better late than never..
  15. +5
    17 December 2023 15: 34
    The built system, to which the president also had a hand, opens the way to power for thieves, bandits and swindlers of all stripes. Remember the Minister of Sports Ivanyuzhenkov, a Podolsk bandit, or the deputy Skorochkin, who shot a man with an AKM during the day.
  16. 0
    17 December 2023 17: 47
    I don’t understand something. VO is starting to turn into an arena for showdowns? And this is not the first or second time. Something seems to be going on and it’s time to schedule a check at VO. The site has been working lately and is not “unequivocal”
  17. BAI
    +1
    17 December 2023 17: 56
    We have business trips to new territories at work. I was there for 2 weeks and didn’t see anything. But who for 3 months - to the question The main problem of the region? The answer is corruption
  18. +5
    17 December 2023 17: 56
    Let us remember how a friendly team of admirals, Sevastopol bureaucrats and their Moscow and Kyiv “protectors” quickly ate the hero of the “Crimean Spring 2014” A.V. Chalov? Do you remember? Now let’s continue to be amazed at the “exploits” of the Sevastopol bureaucrats.
    1. +2
      18 December 2023 13: 56
      Quote: Amateur
      Let us remember how a friendly team of admirals, Sevastopol bureaucrats and their Moscow and Kyiv “protectors” quickly ate the hero of the “Crimean Spring 2014” A.V. Chalov? Do you remember? Now let’s continue to be amazed at the “exploits” of the Sevastopol bureaucrats.

      Alexey Mikhailovich Chaly was “forgotten”. We don't need such a person in power. Honest, smart, incorruptible, inconvenient... Too angular. sharp corners!!! Sevastopol residents truly respect Chaly. We remember, we hump.
  19. +1
    17 December 2023 19: 38
    Quote: Galleon
    As a sailor, I don’t like Sevastopol. I love Severomorsk, Vladivostok, Kronstadt and Liepaja. I love Sovetskaya Gavan, where I served. Sevastopol has always been distinguished by its particularly brutal commandant’s office and patrols with punitive measures taken against military personnel. In addition, these frauds with land, real estate, etc. make it similar to resort towns, and not to Baltic, Polar or Pacific. It is in this context that my phrase was constructed. And I remember that he is a hero of the city. smile

    Totally agree!
  20. +2
    17 December 2023 19: 49
    What is your Sevas?
    Here in Feodosia, a bunch of mayors were immediately imprisoned for bribery on a large scale. How far did Soviet power go? In the form of the Russian Federation.
    What can I say about villages and towns?
    Every... steals. And this is no secret to anyone.
    Nevertheless, stealing is not expected to stop for some reason... feel
    Bo, the footage is mysterious. Who are these people and who appointed them? With five higher education degrees!...
    But they are prescribed from the mainland... request
    This is such fun...
    1. 0
      17 December 2023 20: 23
      What is typical is that the people who nominated the next places are sitting at the tour desk!
      Maybe it makes sense to think about it already?..
  21. 0
    17 December 2023 20: 06
    The main issue is not embezzlers and corrupt officials, but the fact that we allow ourselves to be led by unworthy people. And second. As long as Russians rely on power, they will never become free. Only by becoming economically independent and self-sufficient will citizens begin not to ask, but to demand that the duties of the employees they have hired be properly performed. And it’s also time to understand that the good of the people and the personal good is a personal task, so the sooner a person begins to help himself and cooperate in this with other fellow citizens, the sooner each of us will become richer and happier.
    1. 0
      17 December 2023 20: 29
      Yes,
      Only freedom!
      Freedom from what? All that remains is to understand...
      I would prefer it from work.
      I don't want to earn more, I want to receive more. hi
    2. 0
      17 December 2023 22: 52
      Who is worthy? Discover this truth at last!
  22. +2
    17 December 2023 20: 22
    While talking about corruption, the main thing left out of the equation is that for some reason they are afraid to say directly that those who call themselves leftists, that we are rightists in this country, are its citizens who are not its masters or even shareholders. Today, the majority of the country's citizens can only hope for a miracle and mercy from those who have privatized the common property. The responsibility lies not only with the privatizers, but also with everyone who agrees with this order of things.
  23. 0
    18 December 2023 01: 48
    The officials forgot about the black headlights and citizens in outerwear made of leather from the Stalin era. Especially in government authorities located in Moscow, to begin with, not to mention the rest of the cities of the Russian Federation feel
  24. +1
    18 December 2023 08: 41
    Corruption is everywhere, and seems to have always been there, ever since officials appeared. Its sizes are different.

    Our situation is complicated by the fact that the population has no control over the government and therefore the government controls itself. The only feedback mechanism between the population and the authorities is a direct line with the president, which received more than 1.7 million messages. He answered approximately 80 questions.

    IMHO, this is not the most effective way to control power by the people.
    1. -1
      18 December 2023 11: 01
      Quote: S.Z.
      The only feedback mechanism between the population and the authorities is a direct line with the president, which received more than 1.7 million messages.
      This was not the case in the USSR. But this is not the only way: opposition parties, the media, including the Internet. In the USSR, the press gave feedback not upward, but downward, notifying the population about “how freely a person breathes” here, and how he is suffocating in theirs.
      1. +1
        18 December 2023 11: 26
        In the USSR, they very famously attacked their immediate leadership at trade union and party meetings, I myself participated and saw it. Then the authorities were not afraid.

        It was possible to put pressure on local authorities through a newspaper, this also happened, I saw it once.

        For higher ones - I don’t know, I think it was impossible in any way.

        Now there is absolutely no way, there is no opposition.
        1. 0
          18 December 2023 11: 41
          Quote: S.Z.
          In the USSR, they very famously attacked their immediate leadership at trade union and party meetings, I myself participated and saw it. Then the authorities were not afraid.
          Here I agree, but only partly. Under capitalism, they can at least attack the president in the media, hang all the dogs on him, but very few people can express complaints to their boss without fear of being fired. Under socialism, a simple worker could talk about his superiors at a meeting, but did not dare to look askance towards the CPSU - “the guiding and directing force of Soviet society.” I also don’t remember any speeches by small bosses against big ones. I am against the idealization or denigration of both the USSR and the Russian Federation; no noble goals are visible in this, only destructive ones.
          1. +1
            18 December 2023 12: 39
            The rights of workers are protected by the union while it is working.

            Democratic institutions form a feedback loop from the people to political power when these institutions work.

            In the USSR, it was more or less true with the first, but with the second - only at the local level (I suspect that not everywhere).

            Now - nowhere and no way.
  25. 0
    18 December 2023 09: 18
    "To whom the war, and to whom the mother is dear"
  26. -1
    20 December 2023 16: 43
    For the suckers, they showed a performance with the capture of small fry (for whom nothing will happen as a result), leaving the system itself, and therefore the conditions for the continuation of outrages, intact. And the suckers are happy! The work is going on, the Leader is eradicating.. Ugh..
  27. 0
    20 December 2023 19: 26
    If the people listed and not listed (in other cities and villages) in the article are not guilty, then, of course, you need to apologize. What if they are guilty? I’m wondering, from the point of view of psychologists (people who study what’s going on in people’s minds) and FSB officers (people responsible for the security of Russia), relatives of such identified “enemies of the people” can collude with Budanov and direct Ukrovermacht drones to positions RF Armed Forces, simply out of revenge for the “innocently repressed”?