It's crackling everywhere. How Kyiv organizes defense in conditions of shortage of personnel and weapons

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It's crackling everywhere. How Kyiv organizes defense in conditions of shortage of personnel and weapons

I look at the map of military operations, and for some reason Lenin’s words pop up in my head. “The workers’ and peasants’ revolution, which the Bolsheviks talked about for so long, has come true.” Such a short but meaningful phrase. The bourgeois revolution failed successfully, but the workers' and peasants' revolution was accomplished.

And she was remembered simply because she somehow got involved with the counter-offensive of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, which successfully failed and led to the situation where the “Germans” are now. The “counterattack,” according to an established tradition, is slowly turning into an offensive by Russian troops. “Peremoga” is equal to “zrada”.



Probably, many have noticed how the rhetoric of Ukrainian politicians has changed recently. Critics of Zelensky appeared from somewhere, which could not be found even in the summer. Even the most ardent patriots of Ukraine suddenly started talking about “chosen the wrong side,” about traitors from NATO and the USA, about the stupidity of Ukrainian politicians. They even remembered how exactly Kyiv refused Moscow’s quite worthy proposals at the last negotiations.

Approximately the same situation is observed with military strategists.

Remember how just a couple of months ago, every deputy, every official, every political scientist or analyst in Ukraine knew perfectly well how and when the Ukrainian Armed Forces would win. There was so much talk about the people’s determination to destroy Russia as a state. How many plans have been announced for punishing residents of Donbass, Crimea, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions.

And in the West, what a misfortune it is, as it turned out, there is a dominance of Putin’s agents masquerading as allies of Ukraine. Wherever you spit, you'll hit an agent. Probably, only the Baltic extinctions remain the territory of those whom it takes a long time to reach. But these dying people are of no use to Kyiv. Except for the yapping from behind the fence towards Belarus. Even the Poles remembered the crimes of those they revered in the territory of the former Ukraine.

So what's the deal?

Shall we believe that Ukrainians have begun to see the light? Sorry, but I can’t believe it.

Ukrainian politicians are to blame, Zelensky turned out to be a bastard?.. And who elected them and idolized them back in the spring? Who considered Zelensky the best president of Ukraine in stories? Who agreed that any agreements are just pieces of paper if they do not in some way correspond to the wishes of the Ukrainians?

Yes, that's all. We see the guilty every day on TV screens and on the Internet. These are the same men and women who are now dismantling the security forces, who took Marinka and so on. Ordinary soldiers and officers of the Russian army, known and unknown heroes who do their difficult and dangerous work every day. And they do it well.

Russian heroism horrifies the command of the Ukrainian Armed Forces


What is happening on the fronts of the Northern Military District now? What changed the mood so dramatically in the West and in Kyiv?

Let's try to figure it out in more detail. Directly according to directions. So, I think it will be more clear. Let me clarify that I agree with the conclusion of the officer from Donetsk, which he voiced at the beginning of the material. So everything that is written below is a detailing of this conclusion.

I’ll start, perhaps, with the Donetsk direction, because it was there that yesterday the fighters committed another “impossibility”, from the point of view of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. The Russian army liberated Marinka, where one of the largest fortifications of the Ukrainian Armed Forces was created. I don’t know, however, whether the last fortification inside the city, which yesterday was still in the hands of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, has been taken or has not yet been taken.

What would you like to focus the attention of readers on?

Usually, after capturing a populated area, troops begin methodically clearing it out. It will be the same with Marinka. But this city has a special flavor. Namely, the 110th Separate Guards Brigade of the Russian Army, which was previously part of the People's Militia of the DPR. The brigade was created by Alexander Zakharchenko in 2015. And the fighters of this brigade stomped on their own across the entire territory of Donbass from Peski to Marinka.

So, the capture of Marinka (if it’s important to anyone, the liberation) automatically created a hole in the defense of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. It was small, 3–5 km wide, but it was created. Well, who can stop the Donetsk men, many of whom have been fighting for many years? It was the fighters of the 110th Guards. The OMBR literally on the shoulders of the retreating troops did not just walk down the corridor. They immediately captured Georgievka and some positions already within sight of Kurakovo!

Alas, it didn’t work out any further “on the fly.” Kurakovo is a large city for Donbass; it once had a population of about 20 thousand. And fortifications there were built in parallel with Marinka. And taking into account the fact that it was there that the headquarters of the Donetsk group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was located, the main artillery positions for shelling Donetsk are located there, the main supply base of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is located there, etc., the city is fortified, according to experts, in approximately the same way as Avdievka.

According to intelligence data, the main fortifications of the Ukrainian Armed Forces are located in the Roy microdistrict, which is located on the shore of the reservoir. According to my information, the engineering work of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was mainly carried out there, taking advantage of the fact that Roy is a private sector located along the dam.

In short, the 110th raid presented our headquarters with new tasks that must be solved. And depending on the solution to these problems, plan further actions.

The situation is approximately the same in the Artemovsk direction.

They took Khromovo and received, in strategic terms, the task that had already been set before. Remember, last summer we already set the goal of capturing this settlement. And here we go again... We need to take this damn Chasov Yar.

For now, we only control the roads. Advancing closer to a populated area will determine the direction of the further attack. Either “forward to the west” to Konstantinovka, or to Kramatorsk.

A little clarification is needed here regarding Kleshcheevka.

The dominant heights are already occupied by our troops. In fact, Kleshcheevka is completely controlled by our artillery. This allows our units to keep under surveillance almost all forest belts in the direction of Krasnoye. And this is the last position that prevents you from completely closing the ring.

With the fall of Krasny, the fate of the 5th separate assault Kyiv brigade will be decided. Western weapons and Western training will not help them. The commander will lose another “own” brigade. It seems to me that in the current situation the team will no longer be able to somehow rectify the situation. Even meat assaults won't help. All that remains is to “die heroically” or surrender.

Both directions, after successful completion of the assigned tasks, will provide the possibility of an attack on Chasov Yar.

Now about the “quiest section” of the front.

I mean the Kupyansk direction. I have already written about the new combined arms army that the Russian Armed Forces deployed there. A very smart move by our command. The Armed Forces of Ukraine were already shaking at the knees from this message. “Kupyansk is the direction of the main attack!”

In principle, I understand Ukrainian officers. The Ukrainian Armed Forces were preparing another “counter-offensive” in this place, and suddenly a whole army was in front of their noses. There is something to make your knees shake. Six months of fear, six months of constant pumping up the Kupyansk garrison and defending brigades with reinforcements. And at the same time, six months of methodical meat grinding of “German” units by Russian artillery and the Aerospace Forces.

It is clear that the generals of the Ukrainian Armed Forces had hope. We will lose people and equipment, but we will survive. And then there is yet another help from the West. New weapons and new soldiers. But something went wrong. There are no new ones!.. Some experts generally say that in the Kupyansk direction the Ukrainian Armed Forces simply will not physically be able to hold the defense. An offensive in the north is just a matter of weather and strategic necessity.

Well, very briefly about the Zaporozhye direction.

Not because there is no movement there. At first glance, nothing serious happens there. Russian units are methodically, without fuss, regaining positions lost during the Ukrainian “counter-offensive.” To put it bluntly, our troops are restoring the line of combat contact that existed before the start of the Ukrainian spring-summer campaign.

It is not difficult to assume that after the LBS is fully restored, the troops will be given another task. And most likely, it will not be defense. Moreover, I already wrote about this once, this direction was considered by the Ukrainian Armed Forces as a direction of counter-offensive, and therefore there are simply no serious defensive structures in the rear of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. There are support workers, but there are no engineered positions. So, in the event of our attack, the “Germans” will have to flee quite far...

Briefly summarize


The Russian army is slowly but steadily improving its position in all areas. Somewhere this is visible to everyone, somewhere it happens without unnecessary noise. It is not difficult to predict how events will develop further. It's not easy to predict where this will happen.

I specifically focused on the now Kurakov direction. It is very important to stop starting the day by reading reports about the latest shelling of Donetsk, Gorlovka and other Russian cities. I especially feel sorry for Gorlovka. If there is at least an illusion of security in Donetsk, then Gorlovka is being hit along the entire length of the city. We need to mix these killers into the ground as soon as possible.

In general, the situation for the Ukrainian Armed Forces is dire. Wherever you throw it, there’s a wedge everywhere, as my sergeant-major once said, once again replacing the bayonet-knife that had been broken by the “thrower.”

It is still unclear where and when the Ukrainian defense will begin to break down. It’s unclear simply because it crackles almost everywhere. And this crackling, judging by what is happening there, is clearly audible in Kyiv, Brussels and even in Washington...
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  1. +2
    10 December 2023 06: 04
    Now I’ll chase away the populism a little...
    What has been needed for a long time is an order “on readiness”
  2. -5
    10 December 2023 06: 45
    Sand to Marinka.

    Peskov, not Sand.
    So, the capture of Marinka (if anyone cares, liberation)

    If a comrade major is reading this and needs sticks and imprisonment, it will be important.
  3. +9
    10 December 2023 06: 59
    For some reason I don’t believe that we are not capable of large offensive actions like in WWII. Distances, in principle, are nothing. The range of tanks is almost the entire length of Ukraine. And then we have the daddy bomb, comparable to tactical ammunition. We need to stop these intrigues, agreements, struggles for power and cut this Ukrainian Gordian knot. soldier
    1. 0
      10 December 2023 07: 08
      In war as in war

      It will never reach ours
    2. +6
      10 December 2023 07: 43
      Quote: V.
      We need to stop these intrigues, agreements, struggles for power and cut this Ukrainian Gordian knot. soldier

      What did grandfather Lenin say? - “What comes first?”
      SVO primary or negotiated?

      Negotiations are politics and business.
      And the SVO is a continuation of policy by military means..... this shows that the main thing is what they start and even how they end
    3. +1
      10 December 2023 08: 20
      There is a bomb, but whether it is put into service or not is a big secret. Which bomber carries it, from what distance and at what altitude it uses it is also a secret. It is possible that due to the combination of these secrets it is not used. And perhaps, like the Tsar Bomba, it will remain a test bench.
    4. +20
      10 December 2023 08: 40
      For some reason I don’t believe that we are not capable of large offensive

      Of course they are capable. We just don't want to. This is our second year near Donetsk, because we haven’t started yet.
      How long will it take to annex all of Ukraine at the current rate of progress? And then what to do with it? At a minimum, it will have to be restored at the expense of the Russian Federation budget, that is, at the expense of the impoverishment of you and me. But these are still flowers. Ukrainians will need to be attracted to our side, for this we will need to offer prospects, good work, safety from bandits, safety from local security forces, safety from 15-year-old overly zealous defenders of Islam. To build a heavenly life for Ukrainians, which we ourselves do not have, there may simply not be enough money, or there will be enough money at the cost of completely bleeding the rest of the regions.
      1. +13
        10 December 2023 10: 07
        Quote: Stinging_Nettle
        How long will it take to annex all of Ukraine at the current rate of progress?

        The frantic desire of some VO readers to annex ALL of Ukraine to Russia is surprising. For what!? A country with a destroyed economy and infrastructure, and a population hostile to Russia.
        Quote: Stinging_Nettle
        At a minimum, it will have to be restored at the expense of the Russian Federation budget, that is, at the expense of the impoverishment of you and me.

        Exactly! Do we need this? There are regions, I include Nikolaev, Odessa and, probably, Kharkov, which, after referendums, can and should be accepted into Russia. For the remnants of Ukraine - denazification, demilitarization and neutral status.
        1. +7
          10 December 2023 11: 22
          This may be controversial, but it's like reformatting a hard drive. There are modern ideas for the development of territories and the modernization of old ideas. Australia tried to involve the Aborigines into modern society, but when they were given the opportunity to choose, they chose the life of gatherers. And Western Ukraine is a rural agricultural country. So let him live according to his own concepts. hi
        2. +1
          10 December 2023 14: 06
          Quote: pyagomail.ru
          Quote: Stinging_Nettle
          How long will it take to annex all of Ukraine at the current rate of progress?

          The frantic desire of some VO readers to annex ALL of Ukraine to Russia is surprising. For what!? A country with a destroyed economy and infrastructure, and a population hostile to Russia.
          Quote: Stinging_Nettle
          At a minimum, it will have to be restored at the expense of the Russian Federation budget, that is, at the expense of the impoverishment of you and me.

          Exactly! Do we need this? There are regions, I include Nikolaev, Odessa and, probably, Kharkov, which, after referendums, can and should be accepted into Russia. For the remnants of Ukraine - denazification, demilitarization and neutral status.

          Ukraine is not just a territory with a hostile population. This is a springboard for Eurofascists to attack Russia. Therefore, it is necessary to liberate the territory of all of Ukraine. Roughly and even cruelly clear it of Nazis. Squeeze the pan-heads out into fascist Europe as much as possible. The rest will go to Siberia for decades: to build our bright future.
          1. +8
            10 December 2023 16: 06
            This is a springboard for Eurofascists to attack Russia.

            This can be said about almost all of our neighbors, except perhaps the dad with mysterious intentions.
          2. +2
            10 December 2023 16: 44
            But the Baltics, Finland, Poland, Armenia and other neighbors are not springboards, or what? Half measures are inappropriate here.
            1. +1
              11 December 2023 02: 20
              But the Baltics, Finland, Poland, Armenia and other neighbors are not springboards, or what?

              These, at least, lack the “over the top” and the scale is not the same, and the population is small. If only Poland with its “from mozh to mozha”...
              1. 0
                11 December 2023 14: 38
                Pfft. To become a bridgehead, you don’t need a large population; it’s enough to agree to allow a large contingent of Poles or other NATO “volunteers” into your territory. And they all have more than enough Russophobia.
          3. +2
            11 December 2023 21: 13
            I will add to what you said: the main thing that needs to be done is to end this stupid experiment, when a piece of the Russian people was called a separate people. A written language was introduced for the local rural dialect. Everything must be brought to the all-Russian literary norm. There the consciousness will also improve. And this is in no way genocide or ethnocide, as Western enemies will call it. This is a return to basics.
        3. +6
          10 December 2023 15: 09
          I agree with you 100%!!! We will not be able to handle ALL of Ukraine - neither liberate nor rebuild. South and East, from the above I would also add Dnepropetrovsk. The rest is to die out, decay, pay off debts to the West. Russian-controlled administration, no elections.
          And at least downvote me if you don’t agree.
          1. +1
            10 December 2023 19: 36
            In order to have an administration controlled by Russia, they also need to be taken.
          2. 0
            11 December 2023 21: 14
            We will not be able to handle ALL of Ukraine - neither liberate nor rebuild.
            you say that as if the local population will not participate in this. Just sit and spit seeds while waiting.
        4. +2
          10 December 2023 17: 55
          Chernigov, Sumy, Dnepropetrovsk... And so, of course... Look, the revival of Mariupol is underway, but the Lugansk region remained in the fold. Apparently there are no funds for this
      2. +2
        10 December 2023 11: 01
        How long will it take to annex all of Ukraine at the current rate of progress?


        If Avdeevka is held out until the New Year and there is an advance near Kupyansk, they will cover a thousand kilometers in a year. At this rate, another 5 centuries.

        At what cost? There is real data only from Prigozhin on losses near Artemovsk. 600 square kilometers cost 20 thousand dead Wagner soldiers.
        If the further price of advancement is comparable, then victory will be achieved by 2500 at the cost of the lives of 17 million Russians.
        By this time, thanks to the wise migration policy of the National Leader, there will no longer be any Russians left, the Ukrainians will also run out, but the Tajiks will have more living space.
        1. -2
          10 December 2023 11: 58
          Quote: Ivan Seversky
          600 square kilometers cost 20 thousand dead Wagner soldiers
          And don’t forget to add 50 thousand dead landowners when calculating who will end when.
          1. 0
            10 December 2023 15: 12
            And don’t forget to add 50 thousand dead landowners when calculating who will end when.

            Well, if it takes a long, long time ... and victory, and at the same time 2-3 million Ukrainians die, and even at the minimum, 500 thousand Russians, not counting the more numerous cripples, then who needs such a victory? I believe that tactical nuclear weapons can bring a quicker victory. If you hit the infrastructure, the concentrations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, bases and factories related to weapons, then this should affect a faster capitulation of Ukraine. In this case, fewer people will die. Those who agree with this give pluses, those who disagree give minuses. Let's find out the opinion of not the people, but the readers of VO.
            1. +5
              11 December 2023 16: 51
              when I started my first posts in the topic where they rejoiced at the losses of Ukrainians, I wrote the same post. Why are we rejoicing at the enemy’s losses, if Putin and Shoigu themselves say that our losses are 1 to 10. For the 100.000 Ukrainians killed, we lost 10.000 of OUR good and not so good guys. Ours!
              I was downvoted and called a spy.
              no one wants to think, everyone likes the idea that someone somewhere is sitting in a trench right now and making a hurray attack. someone, but not him, giving me or you a minus. And the mobilization showed that we have a 50 to 50 split of runners and patriots. For 300-500 thousand attack troops of the Upper Lars, supposedly IT specialists (YouTube slackers, fitness trainers and other bloggers and Bali-Goa vacationers), we had about the same number of contract soldiers.
              And if I don’t feel sorry for this foam that they ran away, then the loss of ordinary working men from under some village or suburb of an already emptying Russia - personally, I’m very sorry.
              1. +1
                12 December 2023 18: 54
                Well, according to my comment, it turned out that three readers agree that losing 500 thousand of our guys is very bad, and four that it’s no big deal, like such a number is bullshit. Does anyone know who these minus players are? TsIPSO people? Or maybe our patriots?
                As for losses of 1 in 10, the figure is very dubious, if not false, with active defense and periodic attacks. Even 1 in 3 and then there are doubts. And if it’s 1 to 3, then we have 100 thousand irrecoverable losses. So that's it.
                1. 0
                  12 December 2023 21: 42
                  of course it's false.
                  no one will disclose the real losses - according to our Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (adopted right before the war, oh, sorry SVO) - disclosure is an article of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.
                  That’s why they report with bravura 1k10. For me, even this figure is bad.
                  I don’t feel sorry for the Ukrainians, like the new Ukrainians, they’re zombies. I feel sorry for those citizens of the USSR who watched Cheburashka with me, laughed at “well, wait a minute” and said, and most importantly thought! in Russian!.
                  Now they are duped zombies. We have our own - the hurray-Putinites, they have theirs.
                  I watched the videos before my death, during the wounding they switched from their language to pure Russian, without hesitation and everyone had a straight Moscow accent. regain their sight before death.
                  It's a pity that before his death. If they had not allowed this Maidan (which the very word from their Ukrainian language translates as suitcase theft, by the way!) - if our Kuchma-Yushchensky-Poroshensky sprouts of this rot had not been missed... everything would have been different.
                  and we - the Internet wars - will soon need to prepare for the Kazakh liberation spirit. All sorts of Irkutsk and other lands of the Volga region will become a claim. Already the second president of Kazakhstan refuses everything Russian and actively makes friends with the Americans.
                  our great leader again sees nothing and will mumble in 10 years that his partners deceived him. And the local United Russia members will nod and sympathize with the old man.
            2. 0
              13 December 2023 21: 09
              Look at the terrible reputational losses Israel has suffered. And you wanted tactical weapons. Just an American dream!
          2. +2
            10 December 2023 15: 15
            And if you have more troops and carry out not assaults, but encirclements and blockades, it is not at all necessary to lose 50000 of your own to eliminate a garrison of 20000. There will be a second mobilization in the spring after the elections.
            1. 0
              27 January 2024 11: 22
              There will be a second mobilization in the spring after the elections.

              Hope. In the presence of weapons. Otherwise, tactical nuclear weapons.
        2. +2
          10 December 2023 16: 10
          By this time, thanks to the wise migration policy of the National Leader, there will no longer be any Russians left, the Ukrainians will also run out, but the Tajiks will have more living space.

          That's it. I'm afraid that this will happen sooner than in five centuries.
        3. 0
          13 December 2023 21: 05
          Ivan Seversky Prigogine was also a statistician....
      3. -1
        10 December 2023 12: 12
        "Nettle". I largely agree with you. But I consider your fears about the impoverishment of the Russian people due to the costs of restoring Ukraine (a) premature and (b) unfounded. (A) Do you really think that the Russian Armed Forces will ever liberate even Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, not to mention everything else? I don’t, because at the current pace of the offensive, a good result would be the liberation of Avdeevka and Chasov Yar by the summer of 2024. In addition, if I am just a pensioner and a disabled person, I can draw my beliefs from the media, and the media assures me that the pinnacle of strategic art lies in the slow pace of the operation, because they are grinding. The question is - who is being ground? They grind mainly our Russian people, called up from Donbass, Kharkov, etc. Technically, it looks like this. Factories in the cities of Donbass occupied by Ukraine were stopped with the beginning of the Northern Military District, unemployment. The military registration and enlistment offices, the prosecutor's office, etc. are formed from Westerners who hate Donbass, considering them "cotton wool," so they screw everyone, and people go because they need to feed their families. They are killed at the LBS, it is difficult to surrender, the same Westerners are watching. How will the wives and children of the killed Ukrainian Armed Forces soldiers treat us if we nevertheless enter the Ukrainian-occupied Donbass? Now (b). Expenses will pay off Using the example of Mariupol. Our builders are restoring housing. This requires cement, reinforcement, etc. This means that Russian factories will receive orders, and from them taxes will go to the treasury. But most importantly, not all factories in Mariupol have been reduced to dust. Some are already being restored, for example, the Azovmash plant, where they produced railway tanks and much more. This plant became state property. Soon they will start producing tanks, and there will be income for the treasury.
        1. Eug
          +5
          10 December 2023 12: 26
          Azovmash produced a lot of complex, unique products - port cranes, seven-cabin excavators for open-pit coal mining and other mining and metallurgical equipment. On the territory of the plant, its separate division - Azovelektrostal - smelted armor steel and made turrets for the T-64, at least this was the case in 1999.... knowing
          what kind of people - gold - worked there, I really hope for a revival...
        2. +7
          10 December 2023 16: 26
          .The expenses will pay off. Using the example of Mariupol. Our builders are restoring housing. This requires cement, reinforcement, etc. This means that Russian factories will receive orders, and from them taxes will go to the treasury.

          Can you use the example of Russia to show the restoration of factories? The Moscow ball bearing plant, the Perm bicycle factory, the Yugo-Kama plant, and others, which were closed not under the terrible Yeltsin, but under Putin.
          Why aren't our factories restored?
          I’m telling you, they will build a heavenly life for Ukraine, but we will continue to drown in poverty if Ukraine is somehow annexed.
          1. 0
            11 December 2023 12: 31
            I can use the example of ball bearings. In our town, about 15 years ago, the famous plant founded by Peter ceased to exist. It is also famous for the fact that in 1917 the workers of this plant hid Lenin in a hut, well, you understand what we are talking about if you studied in a Soviet school.. Many times I passed by workshops with windows blocked with plywood and thought with pain, maybe in in the surrounding forests, some new Lenin sits on a stump and writes, writes... But a year ago, announcements appeared that specialists were being recruited to the plant for a new production of ball bearings. Why they didn’t start reviving it in Moscow, I don’t know.
        3. 0
          11 December 2023 17: 18
          Quote: mikh-korsakov
          "Nettle". I largely agree with you. But I consider your fears about the impoverishment of the Russian people due to the costs of restoring Ukraine (a) premature and (b) unfounded. (A) Do you really think that the Russian Armed Forces will ever liberate even Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, not to mention everything else? I don’t, because at the current pace of the offensive, a good result would be the liberation of Avdeevka and Chasov Yar by the summer of 2024. In addition, if I am just a pensioner and a disabled person, I can draw my beliefs from the media, and the media assures me that the pinnacle of strategic art lies in the slow pace of the operation, because they are grinding. The question is - who is being ground? They grind mainly our Russian people, called up from Donbass, Kharkov, etc. Technically, it looks like this. Factories in the cities of Donbass occupied by Ukraine were stopped with the beginning of the Northern Military District, unemployment. The military registration and enlistment offices, the prosecutor's office, etc. are formed from Westerners who hate Donbass, considering them "cotton wool," so they screw everyone, and people go because they need to feed their families. They are killed at the LBS, it is difficult to surrender, the same Westerners are watching. How will the wives and children of the killed Ukrainian Armed Forces soldiers treat us if we nevertheless enter the Ukrainian-occupied Donbass? Now (b). Expenses will pay off Using the example of Mariupol. Our builders are restoring housing. This requires cement, reinforcement, etc. This means that Russian factories will receive orders, and from them taxes will go to the treasury. But most importantly, not all factories in Mariupol have been reduced to dust. Some are already being restored, for example, the Azovmash plant, where they produced railway tanks and much more. This plant became state property. Soon they will start producing tanks, and there will be income for the treasury.

          That’s right, Ukraine is not a desert; not long ago it was one of the three or five world leaders in exports. Grain, sunflower oil, uranium, heavy engineering and much more. So, with the right approach, it can be restored quickly, although you will have to invest money initially..
      4. -2
        10 December 2023 21: 30
        So what do you offer? Hands up, contribution...??? Bolder, bolder.
      5. 0
        12 December 2023 20: 02
        Stinging Nettle
        At a minimum, it will have to be restored at the expense of the Russian Federation budget, that is, at the expense of the impoverishment of you and me.

        We don’t have feudalism in our yard, so that we can restore it at your expense, a loan will be issued at the expense of which orders will be placed with growing companies, and these are jobs, and they will give out loans.
        Secondly, the budget is not yours, but the taxpayer is paying you like hell; taxes are paid, for example, by Gazprom, not you.
        Thirdly, they somehow lived themselves before and will continue to live without rent from you.
    5. -2
      10 December 2023 13: 26
      So it has long been clear that how this war is waged is a purely political question. Sivkov spoke many times and proved in detail that it was possible not to leave Kherson, Kupyansk and the Red Estuary. The Russian Army is able to crush everything like a copper coin under a locomotive. Corrupt politicians and leadership do not give the army carte blanche to win. They probably have their own concept of victory, their own gamble and their own margin in this business
  4. +4
    10 December 2023 08: 03
    Kurakovo is a large city for Donbass; it once had a population of about 20 thousand. And fortifications there were built in parallel with Marinka.
    Are there any settlements beyond Kurakovo? And fortifications?
    1. +2
      10 December 2023 12: 44
      Firstly, not Kurakovo, but Kurakhovo. Secondly, where did the author get the information that ours took Georgievka? I read a week ago that it will be extremely difficult to take Georgievka, because there is a dam there, this is a task for next year.
      1. +3
        10 December 2023 12: 50
        Firstly, not Kurakovo, but Kurakhovo
        Why I bought it from the author in the article, and why I sold it in the comments. Claims to the manufacturer.
        Secondly, where did the author get the information that ours took Georgievka?
        Ask the author directly. Beyond Kurakhovo, are there no longer defensive lines and defensive points?
  5. +3
    10 December 2023 08: 17
    I have no doubt that our army is capable of defeating the troops of Nazi Ukraine; it will be so. Not today, but it will be.
  6. +12
    10 December 2023 09: 12
    I agree with the author on only one thing - the men on the front line are dragging all this shit out of the so-called Northern Military District (and in fact, war).
    But he’s kind of a timid strategist. Why not immediately land on Lviv? You are talking here about some potential cauldrons and deep raids, but judging by the map there is a battle for the forester’s hut. (Precisely the Battle without hee hee).
    The solution to the positional deadlock of this war does not lie in the steppes of Tavria, the forests of the Kharkov region and the industrial agglomerations of Donbass.
    Cetrum censeo Washingtonum delendam esse
    1. +1
      10 December 2023 12: 38
      He is right about one thing, Russians and Ukrainians, naturally apart from Westerners, are one people. Therefore, a soldier of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. like the Russian, he is hardy, inventive, and brave in battle. It wasn’t “timid Georgians who fled.” Therefore, on earth it’s like a war with oneself. If Putin is really right that the start of the Northern Military District was inevitable, and given his inherent caution, I am inclined to believe this, then the United States carried out a super a successful operation, sitting and counting the dividends.
      1. 0
        11 December 2023 11: 43
        Put In, like that hero, he sat and sat on the stove for 33 years, but just like tears, the hut needs to be rebuilt.
        Ceterum censeo Washingtonum delendam esse
  7. +7
    10 December 2023 10: 49
    It’s immediately clear who the author of the article is, as he writes, victory is already in his pocket, but the situation at the front doesn’t particularly show that the enemy is trembling and running, and if Kurakhovo in 20000 is a big city, what should we call Zaporozhye, Kharkov and Dnepropetrovsk
  8. +8
    10 December 2023 11: 01
    As usual, I didn’t read to the end, because the author was recognized from the first paragraph. But I am sure that in 6 months you will write the same thing, since statistics are inexorable to you.
  9. +6
    10 December 2023 11: 48
    I talked to many military men. And he asked everyone a simple question: “Why, with complete superiority in aviation, are our infantry engaged in assault when they should be engaged in mopping up?” And it turns out that the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ air defense system is still strong and cannot be suppressed. And what do you think, with this approach, how long will we continue to fight?
    1. +2
      10 December 2023 16: 07
      We can only guess about the state of the air defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, it exists, but what and in what quantities is available is unknown. Only open sources of information are available. Our aviation really has some problems. Losing aircraft, with their small production, is a little expensive, that’s why they are used for launching missiles and crafts, such as gliding bombs. Therefore, you should not expect quick changes in this situation.
    2. +2
      10 December 2023 16: 29
      I talked to many military men. And he asked everyone a simple question: “Why, with complete superiority in aviation, are our infantry engaged in assault when they should be engaged in mopping up?”

      The question is really simple and the answer is obvious.
      Because among our infantry there are no children, you know who.
      1. +4
        10 December 2023 18: 42
        There really are no children, and it’s naive to wait for them at the LBS. The reasons are different. The USSR Air Force and the Russian Aerospace Forces, some had no experience, others had no experience in breaking through and suppressing air defense. From the word at all. There may have been training at training grounds, but a combat mission and training, two big differences. Also, the Armed Forces of Ukraine, with the help of NATO equipment, have total control of the airspace in the database area, and beyond. For a fighter, the nicest thing is to receive an accurate and timely control center. I think the Ukrainians have no problems with this. Time the reaction, from detection to launch, in military air defense, and the other is unheard of, is very small, and this is a huge plus. You can continue to name the reasons, but I think these are enough.
  10. Eug
    +2
    10 December 2023 12: 19
    The metro in Kyiv is also cracking... three stations are flooded, the line is closed...
  11. +2
    10 December 2023 12: 42
    Advancing closer to a populated area will determine the direction of the further attack. Either “forward to the west” to Konstantinovka, or to Kramatorsk.


    First Chasov Yar, then Konstantinovka - not the other way around.
  12. +6
    10 December 2023 12: 46
    How tired you are of the jingoistic patriots. The war is all over, the enemy is defeated. Don’t you want anything? The first enemy is serious and has not yet changed its strategy. Now they will move on to the defense, to strengthening the most dangerous sectors of the front. The Armed Forces of Ukraine still have potential quite serious. There is still a pause with the USA, but it will end soon. And new help will come, less but it will do. All this will create new strategic problems for us. And those who already took Kiev once are again trying to repeat past mistakes. That’s why our command and is in no hurry to attack and is trying to break up the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the field as much as possible.
    1. -7
      10 December 2023 21: 38
      And for me, the sect of the All-Runners is already in the liver
      1. +3
        11 December 2023 21: 48
        Those who use the obnoxious term “everyone who disappears” are sitting in the liver. Before February 2022, you were warned that not everything in the army is smooth, that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are not macaques, that 70% of modern equipment exists only in reports - and what did you answer? Bug, again all the losers are slandering!
        1. 0
          11 December 2023 21: 56
          Read my few remarks here before accusing me of anything! I never said that everything is smooth in our army. But whining, crying, shaking the air, looking for the guilty everywhere is not my thing. I just don't like whiners. And yes, there are a lot of “sensible”, all-knowing people on the couch here, especially in hindsight.
          1. 0
            11 December 2023 22: 03
            So you counted me among the Ur-patriots?!
            1. +1
              11 December 2023 22: 07
              Sorry, I could have been wrong.
              1. +1
                11 December 2023 22: 09
                Yes, anything can happen. Thank you for speaking out! Otherwise they downvote without explanation)
          2. +1
            11 December 2023 22: 05
            I don't understand your position. There are clearly some people to blame. From the point of view of the state, this is a wide range of people from Colonel Strelkov to the “international LGBT organization.” I have a different point of view - why can’t I express it?
            1. 0
              11 December 2023 22: 06
              Yes, I didn’t seem to answer you. There are always people to blame! But they rarely punish the right people.
  13. +1
    10 December 2023 13: 32
    "Cracking everywhere"?????
    Yes, this is “cracking” in the heads of our brilliant headquarters. They still cannot develop a plan of attack. The Banderlogs say “Cracking is everywhere”, but for more than a year we are still hiding in the trenches.
    1. +5
      10 December 2023 16: 15
      They can develop it, no question. Who will implement it? I think after the elections there will be mobilization, and those mobilized will carry it out. Your task is not to get into the next wave, otherwise there will be no one to write such angry comments.
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      2. -1
        11 December 2023 08: 06
        Quote: Uncle_Misha
        They can develop it, no question. Who will implement it?

        So, is the problem that there is no one left to fight in Russia? Prove it, it will be interesting....

        It’s more likely that they can’t develop anything. Because the conflict is riddled with a network of economic agreements. Last year, according to customs reports, trade turnover amounted to $6 billion. Not as much as with China, but not little either.

        In our History there have been many “great achievements” that, after a certain period of time, were declared “monstrous crimes against the people.” And the most monstrous thing is that the people it was always absolutely indifferent
        1. +1
          11 December 2023 17: 29
          In Russia there is still someone to conscript or mobilize. Perhaps there is even something to arm and dress in. The question is the consequences of such mobilizations. Is society ready for such sacrifices? And we know how to develop plans, any plans, from breakthrough ones to those that have no analogues.
    2. +1
      10 December 2023 16: 49
      The developed “plan” of attack must certainly be made public and discussed on social networks). Not all Banderas can carry out counter-attacks). Yes - as soon as they develop it, be sure to endorse it).
  14. +8
    10 December 2023 17: 48
    Russian heroism horrifies the command of the Ukrainian Armed Forces
    The author's style is unique, but one question arises: did the notorious command itself inform him of its horror?! winked Otherwise, the LBS does not change fundamentally...
  15. +2
    10 December 2023 18: 57
    For the second year, the front line has not changed, at first they were advancing, they were even in Kharkov and reached Kyiv. But they couldn’t hold it back then.
    When the front does not change for months, this is a positional war. Even during the Second World War near Rzhev, our army broke through the defenses without tanks and without anything.
    It was possible to break through the defenses; we ourselves have no stockpiles of weapons.
    There are guys who are attacking, but this is not the decision of the command
    If in the summer Ukraine had a lot of armored vehicles, they don’t have any now. And they are almost no longer supplied with it, as was the case in the summer; there were caravans of weapons.
    Watch the video. The Ukrainian Armed Forces use our own weapons. What our military abandoned. Our ATGM cornets. If they were able to jump into our trenches, then there remain warehouses of small weapons.
    It's time to do a breakthrough operation.
    Ukraine has called up almost 1,3 million people and they have something to plug the holes with
    We break something for them, they throw more and more people
    Maybe if our army had a lot of SUVs, we would have made a breakthrough. The breakthrough should not be on feet but on armored vehicles. And we still have a weak point: armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles, those that transport infantry
    All summer traffic, look, they were driving vehicles. Do we have this much equipment on the front line?
    Now they need cars like tanks so that those sitting in the car are not afraid to go there.
    If we can’t make an infantry fighting vehicle on a tank platform, then remove the cannon and make the armor thicker. engine forward. Place people in the back
  16. +3
    10 December 2023 19: 17
    It’s strange to read that the Russian Federation must tense up, remember its former greatness and encircle the enemy on a broad front and destroy it. For some reason, those who write this forget:

    1. that behind Bandera is the entire “civilized world”, which, on the one hand, supplies weapons, ammunition, medicine, etc. to the enemy, and, on the other hand, tries to cut off our oxygen to the maximum;

    2. foreign diplomacy works very actively and effectively in the direction desired by the enemy;

    3. active and large-scale actions on our part require a large number of troops, equipment and ammunition consumption. In principle, the possibilities for their restoration, especially personnel, cannot grow PROPORTIONALLY to the loss. What is shown well, for example, by the enemy’s situation. It seems that the whole world is supplying weapons and ammunition, but victory is not visible. Unfortunately, this rule works both ways.

    In general, there are bad parallels with our other “historical special operations.” And even though their goals were good, they brought disproportionately more problems.
  17. +2
    10 December 2023 19: 22
    Last year, Arestovich showed us everywhere where our units are stationed, and they are connected to NATO systems. All coordination comes from NATO
    There was some kind of hacker who broke into access. Showed the location of our units. We cannot advance and ask for a lot of forces somewhere. They will also transfer to that place.
    Nothing can be done there with small forces, but a quick breakthrough will do. In winter, in my opinion, it is better to advance, all the movements of Ukrainian troops will be visible, and again, our movements will be visible from space. The hope lies in precision cluster bombs.
    In general, it would be possible to drive the VSUshnikov, to pretend to be a large transfer of tanks
  18. +9
    10 December 2023 21: 06
    I remember how in the spring of 2022 in Podolyaki the front was endlessly “crackling.”
  19. +3
    11 December 2023 01: 12
    a flashy article with pseudo-biting phrases.... everything is just like Solovyov. they also famously wrote in the 20th year of the last century in an independent Far Eastern republic.....like “ruined, ruined!!!”. I'm sick and tired of premature "victorious reports". The author can only recommend communicating with “trenchmen” during a two-week vacation. perhaps then his “victorious euphoria” would have diminished.
  20. +1
    11 December 2023 01: 13
    a flashy article with pseudo-biting phrases.... everything is just like Solovyov. they also famously wrote in the 20th year of the last century in an independent Far Eastern republic.....like “ruined, ruined!!!”. I'm sick and tired of premature "victorious reports". The author can only recommend communicating with “trenchmen” during a two-week vacation. perhaps then his “victorious euphoria” would have diminished.
  21. +1
    11 December 2023 12: 22
    Soloviev sometimes reminds me of Gapon. It works so that people let off steam and everything remains the same. Everything remains: the key players are in place, their methods of work are the same.
  22. 0
    11 December 2023 21: 54
    The author indulges in unbridled optimism, “but in the main thing he is right.” Biden leaked Ukraine to us, so I am 90% sure that within a few months, at the latest by the end of 2024, a profitable peace will be signed (at least with recognition of new territories and the neutral status of Ukraine).
  23. 0
    12 December 2023 18: 47
    Quote: V.
    For some reason I don’t believe that we are not capable of large offensive actions like in WWII. Distances, in principle, are nothing. The range of tanks is almost the entire length of Ukraine. And then we have the daddy bomb, comparable to tactical ammunition. We need to stop these intrigues, agreements, struggles for power and cut this Ukrainian Gordian knot. soldier

    The size of the army does not allow it. In WWII they operated with orders of magnitude larger armies. We will be able to attack, but we will be able to control the occupied territories - see the beginning of the Northern Military District.
  24. 0
    12 December 2023 18: 48
    Quote: pyagomail.ru
    The frantic desire of some VO readers to annex ALL of Ukraine to Russia is surprising. For what!?

    To prevent the immediate revival of Ukroreich and pumping it up with weapons in this territory.
  25. 0
    17 December 2023 14: 04
    Despite all our successes, after reading the article, comments and discussions with comrades, I came to a disappointing conclusion - this entire special operation, including the period since 2014, smacks not even of crap, but of betrayal. Apparently the president is a bad student of history and does not know that his beloved Nicholas the bloody It was the military who “asked” to abdicate the throne...