How are the visit of the head of Belarus to China and our ideas for Greater Eurasia connected?

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How are the visit of the head of Belarus to China and our ideas for Greater Eurasia connected?

On December 4, President of Belarus A. Lukashenko visited China, where he held very long negotiations (over four hours) with the leader of the PRC. The media were somewhat surprised at the timing and some of the verbiage, but that was all.

But in vain, because this visit must be considered in the context of events for at least a quarterly period, and the theses must be analyzed in detail. The results could be quite interesting and provide some good food for thought.



In general, an interesting picture emerges with the theses. For example, based on one word “dictator”, which was heard in J. Biden’s answer to the press in San Francisco, conclusions were drawn that negotiations between the United States and China at the APEC summit ended in nothing, which means both sides dispersed to prepare for a fight for Taiwan .

Meanwhile, if we take everything in context, then although the word “dictator” did not look the best, it was pronounced within the framework of the position that China is what it is - communist, and since in any such regime, in the American sense, dictatorship prevails, then the Chinese leader is what the state model is.

In fact, J. Biden in a unique way recognized what his Chinese counterpart directly demanded of him - to recognize China’s right to originality. And there were a lot of similar exchanges of opinions, where in the context one thing was meant, and the press, according to tradition, pulled out what was hotter or better on the agenda.

So it is with the visit of A. Lukashenko, who missed the meeting at the “One Belt, One Road” forum, but less than two weeks later he arrived at a separate invitation and with a separate program, which in the final, as it turned out, is almost 100% consistent with Beijing’s main goals: economic – “Belt and Road” and conceptual – “Community of a common destiny for mankind”.

As already discussed in material “About some results of the Chinese “One Belt, One Road” forum, it is with the conceptual part that Beijing has certain difficulties. Everyone wants logistics and investment, but China’s value model is still new. But it is precisely values ​​and ideas that transform an economic community into a foreign policy bloc or its prototype.

“China always views relations with Belarus from a strategic height and with a long-term perspective,” said the Chinese leader. But in negotiations between China and other countries, the word “strategic” is constantly used by Beijing. And it’s clear why, this emphasizes that relationships are built within the framework of a common strategy, and not by themselves, according to the principle “it just happened that way.”

But what you should pay special attention to is not the following statement:

“China and Belarus are important forces in reforming and developing the global governance system.”

This, at least for the post-Soviet space, is already an innovation. Previously, similar formulations were used only between Moscow and Beijing.

At least six times, the Chinese leader mentioned that China and Belarus are now building a “Community with a Shared Destiny for Humanity.” However, A. Lukashenko answered unequivocally:

“The most important thing is that you have determined the common destiny of humanity as your goal. Unlike Western countries that try to cut everything into pieces, you have set a single goal for everyone. Who can argue with that? Nobody. The world will be grateful to Great China for this.”

So what we have.

In May, the countries of Central Asia (“Central Asian Five”) sign the Xi’an Declaration, which confirms China’s large-scale trade and investment program in the region as part of the expansion of the Belt and Road, and at the same time the Five confirms its commitment to the ideas of the Community of a Shared Destiny for Humanity. In December, Minsk actually does the same thing.

However, Moscow at the “One Belt, One Road” forum a month ago made its own proposal: Russia plans to build “corridors” in the south and southeast, somewhere along with China’s initiatives, but not as part of China’s systemic project, but about ideas “Communities of a common destiny for humanity” - not only did we not subscribe to the concept, but we directly stated that we were returning to the concept of “Greater Eurasia”. The author analyzed in detail that it was not for nothing that our statements included both the current integration form - the EAEU, and the previous one - the EurAsEC ("One Belt, One Road" Forum. Important aspects of the positions of Russia and China").

You can compare the phrases: “interaction between the Eurasian Union and China in the field of trade policy and digitalization of transport circuits” or “there is a specific agreement between Russia and China on the parallel and coordinated development of the EurAsEC and the One Belt, One Road program.”

This is not the author’s exercise in hermeneutics, as it might seem at first glance, but a completely realistic indication that Russia is going to build a separate project based on the countries of Central Asia and members of the EAEU with a vector to the South. Coordinating with China, cooperating, but as a separate project, not a common one.

And there is some reason to believe that if Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan missed the Chinese forum due to the need to confirm investments (and you can hardly find a better way to motivate Beijing than to show that we are also thinking about Russian ideas), then for Minsk the situation is more complicated - it in the Union State.

A. Lukashenko skips the forum, but goes separately, where he personally talks about new investments, his role in logistics, and in exchange for accepting the Chinese value concept, he even talks about some kind of “participation in the reform of global governance.”

Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan, through intergovernmental agreements and dialogue platforms of the SCO, receive more guarantees on projects in a month than in the entire current year. That is, the Chinese ear turned out to be quite sensitive, and the eye attentive.

Our ideas for a “Greater Eurasia” are in many ways competitive with the Chinese, although they also have connecting points. And Beijing sharply stepped up its practical steps in Central Asia over the same month.

After all, it turned out interesting - over the past year and a half, the Central Asian five began to work as a single organism, and it was the five that signed in Xi'an. In September, before the “5+1” summit, the United States makes certain attempts to tear apart this organism, and without success, but out of the five participants, only three of the five participants are going to the forum as leaders, and at the same time we are coming up with a separate project. The project is not antagonistic to the Chinese one, but still potentially competitive. However, let these be just coincidences, although all this clings too much to one another.

After the Russia-Africa 2023 summit and after the BRICS+ summit, our discussion about the “awakening Global South” became unusually lively. It is difficult to even count the number of messages where the Global South appears almost as a subject of economics and geopolitics. The term was pulled from the shelf, shook up, and returned to the discussion of how many hundreds of billions of dollars it would bring in trading in the future.

At the level of a general discussion like “Russia is a big market, India is a huge market, there are two more large markets between them,” this somehow works, but as soon as you start looking at each aspect in detail, it turns out that there are not just zigzags on this path, and abysses and Everests. The author recently did material on the topic of the Indian economy: “The specifics and miracles of the Indian economic model”, and the big question is what will need to be done to squeeze out of this interaction something more than plus or minus a couple of tens of billions of dollars in non-resource turnover.

But what is even more alarming is that it is not even an open discussion, but statements among observers that we will import consumer goods from India. And what difference does it make where to transport them from: from Malaysia, from China or from India? It’s easier from China - the yuan is bought and sold on the stock exchange. The United States, for example, has been trying for five years to find ways to harmonize the economic model of India and the Gulf countries. And I can’t say that their successes are impressive, although they are. But there is no need to build global corridors there.

All this so far looks like it is extremely important for us to show our positioning as a separate geopolitical pole interacting with the Global South. God bless him that no one really knows what the Global South is, where its borders are and who exactly is included in it.

The irony is that, working within the framework of the Chinese concept, no one is stopping us from making this route to the south, since Pakistan and Iran themselves could provide an increase in trade.

Moreover, this could be done, as sinologist A. Devyatov used to like to say: “together with China, on the shoulders of China and at the expense of China.” The latter in our time can be put in first place.

But the question is, in the structure that we see as “Greater Eurasia” - “North - South”, what is Beijing’s investment interest, and how vigorously will the countries of Central Asia strive to join it, and not demonstrate desire?

Will this ultimately end with us reaching a certain ceiling on the supply of raw materials to India, fueling new Chinese factories in Central Asia with energy resources in order to eventually receive manufactured goods?

China, as can be seen in many nuances, takes an extremely balanced position, although it is worth paying attention to the following phrase from Xi Jinping:

“A lot of what’s happening is unexpected for us.”

However, it should also be noted that, apparently, it was Beijing that insisted that Russia be represented at the APEC summit. It was noticeable that the United States did not want to allow Russian participation in San Francisco.

The growth of energy projects in Central Asia is strategically beneficial to China; transport routes in Iran also fall within the framework of its strategy.

So far, relations between Russia and the countries of a number of Gulf countries look like something realistic in strategies for working with the Global South. For example, the latest visit of the Russian leader was organized by Abu Dhabi and Riyadh, one might say, demonstratively in relation to the EU and the United States. Although this particular visit may have its own nuances.

However, without any nuances, considering that today there are three largest oil export players: Saudi Arabia, Russia and the United States, there is always the potential for influence here. But, again, this potential does not depend on China’s concepts, does not contradict them, and can be realized “together with China, on China’s shoulders and at China’s expense.”

By and large, there is a separate game of “three” here, where the United States cannot seriously play with price ceilings, since Russian dumping will ricochet on their own export revenues from supplies to the EU. In general, the States, apparently, will soon send all their production for sale, and use cheap imports for their own needs.

I would like to be wrong, but it seems that we still perceive China’s conceptual ideas as a kind of threat to Russia’s position as a “separate pole”, and we perceive it quite painfully.

At the same time, until the end of this year, China, in general, was always ready to play along with us, wait, and correct the situation. However, the summit in San Francisco already shows that even if there are poles, there will still be two of them, according to physical laws. But, apparently, we will be able to be completely convinced of this only if Washington and Beijing also play the game “for two” in Taiwan.
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  1. +1
    9 December 2023 05: 57
    Maybe I'm wrong. I think much of the politics of China, Vietnam, Cambodia is based on the principle of maintaining unity in their countries. We are not talking about opposition in these countries, but it exists. And the task of these countries is to build their foreign policy in such a way that it does not damage their internal structure.
  2. +2
    9 December 2023 06: 37
    In fact, Belarus has long-standing ties with China. About fifteen years ago, the Arab League once wanted to introduce Chinese language teaching in schools.
    1. +2
      9 December 2023 10: 41
      They also have great ties with Turkey. And Turkish business is well represented. But here we are talking specifically about long-term policies and vectors, and this movement will have fewer years to live. Lukashenko has only just now essentially signed the Community of Common Destiny. And just when we decided to distance ourselves from these conceptual initiatives of China
  3. +8
    9 December 2023 06: 53
    . This means that both sides have dispersed to prepare for the battle for Taiwan.

    Is China sick? Looking at the almost two-year-old Ukrainian meat grinder, where two related peoples are destroying each other to the delight of the West, would anyone really want something like this?

    . Russia is planning to the south and southeast, somewhere along with China’s initiatives, but not as part of China’s systemic project, but about the ideas of the “Community of the Common Destiny of Humanity” - we not only did not sign up to the concept, but directly stated that we are returning to the concept of “Greater Eurasia”.

    . Russia is going to build a separate project

    China is building its "common destiny for mankind." And Russia is multipolar and multicultural. China, of course, may not object (for now). But why does the second pole need multipolarity? China may well be happy with a bipolar world.
    1. +1
      9 December 2023 10: 38
      1. Well, no one wants to fight hard for Taiwan, until before the elections there, the United States and China discussed the general principles of coexistence. Don't you look at what they say about the dictator.
      2. So we decided to insist on the position of a third party; it is difficult to say how this will look taking into account the macroeconomics of Eurasia. But everyone was quite puzzled before the new year.
    2. -3
      9 December 2023 11: 33
      Quote: Stas157
      . This means that both sides have dispersed to prepare for the battle for Taiwan.
      Is China sick?
      The United States is blocking funds for China to produce microchips. By attacking Taiwan, China would leave the US without chips. Moreover, there is no need to invade, just imitation is enough: the states threatened to destroy Taiwanese factories at the beginning of the invasion. And the factories that are now being built in the states are not yet operating - there are no specialists.
      1. +4
        9 December 2023 17: 52
        By attacking Taiwan, China will receive a blockade, famine and the collapse of its export-oriented economy. Burn down your house to set fire to your neighbor's? The Chinese think in different categories.

        And suddenly microchips are not only produced in Taiwan. Although Taiwan is the most advanced, yes.
    3. +1
      12 December 2023 10: 50
      Quote: Stas157
      Is China sick? Looking at the almost two-year-old Ukrainian meat grinder, where two related peoples are destroying each other to the delight of the West, would anyone really want something like this?
      China would be sick if it agreed to turn part of its territory into a US military base.
    4. +1
      13 December 2023 18: 21
      Perhaps China is heading towards a bipolar world. Just quiet and smart. And while everything is going well, Europe is clearly not ready for independence, and there is no one else there, Russia will definitely focus on China, otherwise the standard of living will be lost to Kazakhstan and below, India seems to be large in terms of GDP, but has little influence in the world, who else? All. So there are 2 poles:
      Western, led by striped
      Eastern, led by China.
      Multipolarity is not readable.
      1. 0
        13 December 2023 22: 07
        Quote: Glagol1
        Multipolarity is not readable

        Can't read. Multipolarity is a myth. Regional powers do not have enough weight (resource) to be global centers of gravity. They themselves will be attracted and enter the sphere of influence of the heavyweights (USA and China).
  4. +3
    9 December 2023 08: 28
    Without Russian support, the Belarusian economy will deflate very quickly and then the country will face a Maidan like on the outskirts
  5. +2
    9 December 2023 11: 23
    “West”=EU+NATO put forward the idea of ​​globalization, the essence of which is to establish neo-colonial domination. At one time, former Secretary Clinton said this very clearly: “the national interests of the United States are the whole world,” and the United States is the main political and military instrument of transnational associations that are international by definition and therefore go beyond specific national jurisdictions and stand above any state formation in the world. Therefore, they themselves form these jurisdictions through the creation of a system of international organizations and the promotion of their mercenaries to government bodies by providing them with financial support in formally democratic election campaigns. Macron worked as a bank clerk, Leyen worked as a gynecologist, etc., etc. The mercenaries will serve out their time and will again go to work for their masters - some will teach, others will start their own business, and others will find a place in the government apparatus. They would never be able to pay for election campaigns with their honestly earned money. Even the poorest Trump does not have enough of his own funds and is fighting for sponsors, and the money invested by sponsors will have to be worked off in any case if he is elected president, governor, mayor, or Duma member.
    The PRC has put forward an alternative idea of ​​​​building a Society of a common destiny, the meaning of which is the same globalization, but on different principles, not subjugation and robbery, but non-interference in internal affairs, taking into account national interests and the ruling classes, liberation from political economic and social oppression, and raising living standards.
    The PRC has more points of contact with Belarus than with the Russian Federation due to the greater commonality of the social system - Belarus, like no other post-Soviet state entity, has preserved all the best that took place in the USSR, and the PRC goes further and has advanced all the best that was in the USSR far forward , sometimes making mistakes but not deviating from the path
    1. +2
      9 December 2023 17: 01
      The Russian Federation is trying to create a zone of its influence from post-Soviet state formations (CIS, Union state formation) and, if possible, become a center of attraction for others (EAEU, Brix), but does not have sufficient funds to buy and maintain “friends”.
      The PRC's policy of relying on the domestic market inhibits expanded production and has given rise to a project of world globalization called the society of a common destiny.
      This collided with the plan of neo-colonial globalization of the West, and the prize in their confrontation by both is the Russian Federation, which Western globalists intend to defragment, decolonize and subjugate, and integrate the PRC and, if possible, entirely, which is guaranteed to provide the PRC with all the natural resources existing in the world in an almost unlimited amount, and the West will be forced to collect the same resources but all over the world, and this is much more expensive.
      As Stas157 noted, China is building its “single destiny of humanity.” And Russia has fallen into fantasies about multipolarity and multiculturalism.
      1. +3
        9 December 2023 17: 12
        As if these ideas did not have roots somewhere in Foggy Albion, judging by recent events. How many times have we flown over with Britain, and again Monday begins on Saturday.
      2. 0
        12 December 2023 11: 20
        Quote: Jacques Sekavar
        The PRC's policy of relying on the domestic market inhibits expanded production and has given rise to a project of world globalization called the society of a common destiny. ... And Russia fell into fantasies about multipolarity and multiculturalism.
        You are in a fantasy if you think that for China the capitalist value of expanded production is dominant, and the CCP is whistling ideals into its ears, dreaming only of personal gain.
        There is only one Earth in the Universe, the common home of humanity. Unfortunately, this planet on which we depend for our existence is facing enormous and unprecedented crises, both known and unknown, both predictable and unpredictable. Whether human civilization can survive under these conditions has become an existential question that needs to be directly discussed. More and more people are coming to understand that the main task is not the accumulation of material wealth, but the search for a guiding beacon for the sustainable development of human civilization
        Although, some people do not believe that a person can strive for anything other than immediate personal gain. “Look for who benefits” - this is not about everyone, but about criminals.
  6. -1
    9 December 2023 18: 36
    We will also build the Russian world and our own zone of influence. The Third Rome after all
    1. +1
      9 December 2023 18: 55
      There was and will be one Rome, and those roads that have signs always lead to that very real Rome, even though the sign there will say “Rome the Third - to the right.”
      1. 0
        12 December 2023 11: 51
        Quote: nikolaevskiy78
        there the sign will say "Rome the Third - to the right"
        The Third Rome is not a road with signposts, but a spiritual and moral path indicated in the Testament, if you understand what this means.
        1. 0
          12 December 2023 12: 55
          This is Filofey’s interpretation according to the requirements of that time. There is no Rome in the New Testament, there is a new heaven and a new earth and a shining city. In this regard, Rome is precisely an old and inert world. But as always, everything depends on interpretation. But no matter how hard you try to interpret it, in fact, instead of the Third Rome, they always come to the First, to bow to the Pope. He who seeks a Third Rome instead of a new heaven always comes to the Pope.
          1. 0
            12 December 2023 13: 14
            Quote: nikolaevskiy78
            There is no Rome in the New Testament
            The New Testament indicates a spiritual and moral path, if this needs to be repeated. And this epithet was assigned to Moscow by the elder of the Pskov Spaso-Eleazar Monastery, monk Philotheus (c. 1465)
            “Two Romes have fallen, a third stands, but a fourth will never happen.”
            By Rome I he means the Holy Roman Empire, where Christianity was born, and by Rome II, Byzantium, which became the successor to Orthodoxy, whose capital, Constantinople, fell shortly before, in 1453. Stop theological debates, this is not your thing.
            1. +1
              12 December 2023 13: 19
              I read Philotheus's interpretation, this is a political program that today could be called a newfangled "value concept." But in fact, in the end it turned out to be the path to old Rome. Or don't you see how cheerfully the church is walking this path? How our politics goes this way.
              1. 0
                12 December 2023 13: 21
                Quote: nikolaevskiy78
                But in fact, in the end it turned out to be the path to old Rome.
                If you want to present your private opinion as a fact, then the conversation is useless.
                1. +1
                  12 December 2023 13: 31
                  Yes, it’s useless, since your Christianity originated in the “Holy Roman Empire”. That is, already in the 10th century. Well, at least it’s not the Holy Roman Empire of the German nation. Your facts are better than my opinion. Where should I go? It is only interesting who I. Christ was in the Holy Roman Empire and whether Apostle Paul went to Otto’s court.
                  1. 0
                    12 December 2023 13: 36
                    This comment is accepted, about “Sacred” - I missed that, plus for you. Just in the Roman Empire. I hope you don’t have any substantive objections otherwise?
                    1. -1
                      12 December 2023 13: 53
                      Do you mean bent? 2+2=5 is it “bent”?

                      You are a clear illustration of the second part of Matthew 12.37 “...and by your words you will be condemned.” With what arrogance you said through your lip “Quit theological debates, this is not your thing”.

                      But it turns out that they turned it down. There is no point in discussing with paddocks, where the sun = lantern, and 2+2=3. All the best.
                      1. 0
                        12 December 2023 13: 58
                        Quote: nikolaevskiy78
                        With what arrogance you muttered through your lip, “Give up theological disputes, this is not your thing.”
                        They would have written “no beer”, otherwise... laughing Well, really, not yours. Minus for you. The result is zero.
  7. +2
    9 December 2023 20: 21
    Looking for a new "big brother"? Since the old one is “Akela missed”?
    1. +2
      9 December 2023 20: 38
      Rather, of the two chairs, the more stable one, in Minsk’s opinion, was chosen
      1. +1
        9 December 2023 20: 52
        Yes, approximately, and I mean the same thing. hi
        1. +1
          11 December 2023 22: 54
          Where to go, where to go?
          Who would you find, whom would you surrender to?
  8. +1
    10 December 2023 16: 27
    China, as can be seen in many nuances, takes an extremely balanced position, although it is worth paying attention to the following phrase from Xi Jinping:

    “A lot of what’s happening is unexpected for us.”
    The Chinese national idea is not much different from Belarusian potatoes. But they clearly overdid it with the panda at the zoo. By the way, multi-vectorism, according to Lukashenko, continues to exist despite assurances to the Kremlin about its infallible friendship with it. What is happening for China can play a cruel joke (for example, some cyclone that will blow away half of China or some wave that will wash away the coast to renew friendship in the most sincere and kind understanding with the island of Taiwan) so that in the future they do not mislead partners represented by representatives from Russian Federation under the pretext of a union state. Not to mention the overall balance of international politics as a whole. Something like this ... feel
  9. 0
    10 December 2023 22: 53
    Why immediately "dictator". There is an excellent Russian word - Sovereign. For example, this can be called a President who was elected to office three times, and then once every 5 years receives recognition from the people for further rule, as long as people trust him and he himself is efficient.

    Elections for the sake of elections are stupid. It is the Americans and Europeans who can afford the luxury of insane people in positions of responsibility. In the north and east such “freedom” is unnecessary.
    1. 0
      12 December 2023 09: 21
      Well, yes, to paraphrase one very good plasticine cartoon - who will be the last to be a serf? laughing