You are now off the street: “The boy’s word” is capturing the youth of Russia and Ukraine

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You are now off the street: “The boy’s word” is capturing the youth of Russia and Ukraine
Images from the series “The Boy’s Word. Blood on the asphalt"


Kazan phenomenon


From the outside it looks like pure insanity.



Schoolchildren, starting from grades 3-4, began to speak a long-forgotten language, the terms “chushpan”, “shell”, “supers” and others appeared in the lexicon. Particularly enthusiastic people try to cosplay the events of 40–45 years ago, imitating massacres in Soviet Kazan. The most popular phrase has become “Boys don’t apologize,” used appropriately and not so appropriately by youngsters.

The reason is simple - the 8-episode crime drama “The Boy’s Word” was released. Blood on the asphalt." Zhora Kryzhovnikov’s project, which tells about the street gangs of Kazan in the 70s and 80s, literally became a role model for Russian youth.

Completely paradoxical - on the one hand, the effect was unexpected, on the other hand, quite predictable. It has not happened for a long time that a domestic product has found such a lively response. Recently, euphoria has been observed in the Korean “Squid Game”, and the notorious “Redan PMC” grew from there. And here it’s quite historical The drama about the difficult Soviet past has become an example to follow and experience.


Characters from the series “The Boy’s Word. Blood on the asphalt"

The history of the series “The Boy’s Word. Blood on the Asphalt" is built around the "Kazan Phenomenon", which thundered throughout the Union in the 70s and 80s. If it weren’t for Robert Gareev’s book “The Boy’s Word” (the series is based on it), then the events of 40 years ago were simply forgotten over time.

It all started with the Tyap-Lyap gang, born in the slums of Kazan. Using a simple set of power skills, the fighters organized the collection of money from the blackmailers, extorted money from schoolchildren and students, and conquered territory from other groups. The latter became more and more numerous over time.

At one point, a situation arose in Kazan when remaining a “chushpan” (that is, not joining any group) was dangerous for one’s health and reputation. This, by the way, is what Kryzhovnikov’s series is about – the hero with the nickname “Coat” was forced to join the “Universamovskie” gang in order not to pay his last penny to the extortionists.

There is little point in retelling the series now, since it is not finished yet. Much more interesting is the excitement it caused.

From the very first episode, it became clear that modern youth would not easily pass by “The Word of a Boy.” The authors hooked all ages, vividly revealed the characters and threw it all on the screen in a beautiful package, flavored with high-quality music.

The concepts that the heroes promote are clear and simple - devotion to the street, loyalty to one’s word and contempt for traitors. The picture is generously flavored with thieves' romance, but it is also presented as flawed and unfair. Much more important is the brotherhood of the “Universamovsky” people, who are ready to fight to the last for their loved ones. Officials and other persons responsible for the morale of young people did not like this very much.

Despite the fact that Kryzhovnikov wisely assigned the film an 18+ category, they still tried to ban it. Naturally, the Streisand effect worked when she is drawn to everything forbidden, and “The Boy’s Word” gained millions of new viewers. Now many of them, as they themselves admit, live from Thursday to Thursday, from the premiere of a new episode to the next.

Now you're off the street, and there are enemies all around


The nonsense of the situation is that there is no reason to ban the series. Do boys teach bad things? Yes, indeed, a crime drama cannot do without hooliganism and petty theft. But all the positive characters are exclusively Robinhood. According to all the canons of the genre, the thieves' funnel will inevitably drag the guys to the bottom - some to prison, some to the caste of outcasts, and some to the cemetery.

Russian youth now have a clear demand for justice, and they feel it subtly. “The Boy’s Word” shows how to and how not to live. As one of the critics rightly noted, for a considerable part of the guys in the 70s and 80s, the word “boy” was transformed into the word “officer”. Yesterday's heroes of street gangs stormed Panjshir, took Grozny and are now beating the enemy in a special operation. This is why the drama about Kazan youth is so popular - older comrades often see themselves in the characters from the screen.

Because the Kazan phenomenon, by and large, was not a phenomenon: street crime in the late Soviet Union flourished in many cities. Except for Moscow and Leningrad, of course.






Characters from the series “The Boy’s Word. Blood on the asphalt"

As a result, if we consider the series as “ideological sabotage,” then “Brigada,” “Brother,” “Boomer” and the like should just as easily be banned. “Gangster Petersburg” will be the first to go under the knife as a trendsetter of the genre, and with it foreign gangster sagas.

Attempts to ban everything and everyone are just a signature under one’s own helplessness. More precisely, a lack of understanding of what is happening. Today's reformers have failed to create an ideology that is attractive to teenagers; they have only been brainwashed for decades, veering from one extreme to another. At first we are building education in the image and likeness of the West, and now we are playing at sovereign pedagogy with an emphasis on patriotism. In the very near future, we will probably return to patriarchy altogether. The latest attempts about girls who should give birth and not think about a career lead to exactly this.

The conclusion is simple - if teenagers had managed to be occupied with a correct, honest and interesting idea, no one would have set their sights on “The Boy’s Word”.

Kryzhovnikov’s series is also useful from a historical point of view.

Young people see from the screen how far modern society has stepped forward in comparison with the late USSR. The period before the collapse of the USSR and early Russia in general are poorly depicted in popular art. Understanding the legacy of the Great Patriotic War in cinema has left little room for other historical periods. One cannot argue with the memory of great victories in sports (“Moving Up”, “World Champion” and “Legend No. 17”), but they only gloss over the difficult reality of the Soviet Union. Like any other country, the USSR had everything - both good and bad.

Those desperately nostalgic for the late Soviet Union will not like “The Boy’s Word” very much, but the series is truthful and faithful, although not without a varnish touch. Kryzhovnikov did not discover anything new here - a similar effect, for example, accompanies the series “Patient Zero,” which covers the HIV epidemic in the Soviet Union. Both young people and older people need such films to show how much the state and society have changed over the past decades. The film is a vaccine against the excessive sadness of life. And for potential chushpans - a guide on how to be responsible for your words, hit back, and sometimes be the first when the situation demands it.

The popularity of “The Boy’s Word” in Ukraine was the icing on the cake.

Soundtracks for the series are in the top of Ukrainian Internet chats. It’s hard to imagine a better information special operation. TsIPSO diligently erases references to the series, inserts fakes into the Russian agenda, but in Kyiv, Lvov and Kharkov, with the same impatience as ours, they are waiting for the new series.

What does this mean?

First of all, about the fact that we have a common past with Ukrainians. And even which is not common, is also very similar to ours. The dashing 90s did not pass by in Ukraine, they just lingered much longer than in Russia.

It may sound pompous, but the success of the drama about the Kazan boys gives us hope that not everything in the enemy’s camp is lost for us, and our common past will in the very near future become a strong foundation for our Victory.
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  1. +91
    8 December 2023 04: 39
    Sorry to quote: Yesterday's heroes of street gangs stormed Panjshir, took Grozny and are now beating the enemy in a special operation. You just spat so deliciously on the people who, with blood and honor, defended and are defending our country in difficult times. Those heroes about whom you write did not storm Grozny, and there were isolated cases, but excuse me, yesterday’s Soviet officers, conscripts, ordinary people fought, for whom the Motherland and honor are not an empty phrase. And the scumbags you are now idealizing at this time were celebrating the New Year in Moscow, dragging women by the tits, drinking champagne, making excuses from the army in every possible way, and they did not die in battle for their homeland, but in their brawls, dividing the money taken from the common people. And now the bandits have fled all over Dubai, and besides the army they are fighting, ordinary conscripts who have regular jobs and families.... It’s a shame for the guys... And in general it’s a shame for the article, to be honest I haven’t watched the series, but I have no desire, the hype is all around I don’t understand... I don’t think it’s normal to idealize banditry even at that time, and to say that everything there is true without living at that time is at least wrong.
    1. -16
      8 December 2023 04: 53
      And who should be idealized if there is no ideology? Not steelworkers and grain growers. And Soviet youth, even with the presence of ideology, lacked the romance of the street. It was and is like that everywhere. Let them learn to keep their word rather than imitate the “Brigade”.
      1. -12
        8 December 2023 08: 34
        This is definitely noted! Bydly always missed New York's Harlem. Because for a bydla to behave decently is very indecent.

        Estates and corporal punishment must be returned to Russia. Alexander III also said: “a peasant needs a Tsar and a whip”... And democracy is a most dangerous chimera. It needs to be simpler... and then the people will love the government....
        1. +23
          8 December 2023 19: 06
          Well, then vote so that you can be slashed with a whip. My grandfathers did not fight for this, so that we would drive our children and descendants under the lord’s whips. This will not happen!
          1. -3
            8 December 2023 19: 28
            Quote: suban76
            My grandfathers did not fight for this so that we would drive our children and descendants under the lord’s whips.

            What were they fighting for? For the impunity and unbridledness of the younger generation? For this generation’s denial of all past values ​​and the bearers of these values ​​(along with your grandfathers, by the way)? Is this what they fought for?
            Or maybe they fought so that children would not be punished at all when they fly off the handle and go to the gateway of a belated nerd to cut them off? Maybe we should dress them warmer when seeing them off to the outdoor gathering... and also pack them some sandwiches?
            1. 0
              11 December 2023 01: 39
              Quote: Peter_Koldunov
              What were they fighting for? For the impunity and unbridledness of the younger generation?
              What are you even talking about now?! Or are you one of Putin’s supporters who, hinting at the source of everything bad that is happening in the country, call all those who disagree with Putinism “navalnyats”, and almost blame all the bad things on recent children born in the 1990s and 2000s, who went to rallies, and who, in fact, have not seen a good life, and certainly do not have and did not have either the power or the time to do all this??
              1. 0
                11 December 2023 02: 49
                Since the time limit for editing comments on the site is only 20 minutes, I didn’t have time to send the edited and expanded version of the comment and everything fell apart. Therefore, I will clarify that by the lack of power among some of the youth, I meant, in my opinion, the lack of significant opportunities (be it financial, be it political, etc.) to influence (except in elections) on many such events that have occurred in the country and results that do not suit you, and that there is no need to blame them for everything that does not suit you in our country and in your life.
              2. 0
                13 December 2023 14: 21
                Wow, you wrapped up with an excuse to pile on, apparently one of them. It turns out that you are defending those who went to rallies in 2012, 2018, 2019, organized by pro-zap curators at the head of the mob that is now attacking Russia and its leadership from abroad?
                About a year from 2018, frenzied information persecution of the president, his entourage and Russia itself began on social networks, WhatsApp, Tik-tok, Odnoklassniki, etc., to a lesser extent on VK, including on the Military Review website. I remember how much dirt was poured out from some commentators, and what to hide, the authors of the articles. It is now clear that TsIPSO also had a hand in this. The glossing over of any achievements and successes of Russia, the savoring of various large and small problems, which, however, take place in any other country in the world, have assumed exaggerated proportions. Dozens, if not hundreds of all kinds of non-profit organizations, financed from abroad, regularly churned out thousands of near-true fakes, which also attracted the younger generation. Unfortunately, this has not gone away in our time, I see similar individuals around, despite the fact that right now the country needs social consolidation.

                And about the film, I’ll simply say - the film is fire, I really liked it. Few films lately have been so catchy, so I often and with pleasure watch Soviet films, among which I still come across unworn masterpieces that should be shown to modern youth. Just the other day I watched Larisa Shepitko’s magnificent film The Ascension of 1976.
                It was impossible to tear yourself away from the screen!!
                1. 0
                  14 December 2023 23: 41
                  Quote: Mihail80
                  ...And about the film I’ll simply say - the film is fire, I really liked it. Few films lately have been so captivating.
                  I didn’t expect anything else from a Putinist! And comparing Soviet films with this series is something with something.
                  I’m not even going to comment on the rest - everything has long been dismantled and chewed a hundred times on the Internet. Those who look with their own eyes and do not see the whole picture of what is happening, but want to understand, can at least look it up on the Internet, and those who don’t need to, at least have a stake on their head.
          2. 0
            9 December 2023 10: 08
            Do not be this!

            Don’t even hope, that’s what it’s all about.
        2. +2
          8 December 2023 20: 46
          Quote: ivan2022
          Estates and corporal punishment must be returned to Russia. Alexander III also said: “a peasant needs a Tsar and a whip”... And democracy is a most dangerous chimera. It needs to be simpler... and then the people will love the government....

          You are, in Ukrainian terms, “Russians by nature slaves”
    2. +42
      8 December 2023 05: 20
      I couldn't resist passing by your comment. It’s very good that this was the first review.
      Actually, there is nothing to add to this, except to say that after the death of LIB, consciousness changed massively in the country. People began to see life this way. as it is, and not as it was taught at school and from TV screens. It was at this time that the first delights of the grin of capitalism entered life. It was then that “highly ideological” leaders who went through criminal school were found. It was then that they began to prepare their shift.
      The film is disgusting and causes nothing but disgust. Another “masterpiece” of the cult of thieves’ ideology.
      Quote: Andrey Moskvin
      And who should be idealized if there is no ideology? Not steelworkers and grain growers.

      But there is no need to humiliate working people. And the word of a thief differs from the word of a working man in that there is nothing behind it except artificially created rules for the humiliation of honest people.
      Soviet youth had enough romance even without the street. Unlike today, cities had FREE sports sections and hobby groups. There was also an honorable duty to defend the Motherland. And a guy who did not serve in the army was looked at as a leper, and in the villages girls did not want to marry such people.
      * * *
      I won’t idealize the Soviet system, but I won’t dirty it with greasy hands and thieves’ notions either.
      1. +2
        8 December 2023 05: 37
        You yourself wrote about the change of consciousness in the 80s. And then, without going into further detail, about the abundance of romance. belay No one needed her anymore.
        I remember very well the difference in attitude towards the system in the early and late 80s.
        But I didn’t seem to humiliate working people, I’m a builder myself.
      2. +2
        8 December 2023 10: 24
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Soviet youth had enough romance even without the street. Unlike today, cities had FREE sports sections and hobby groups. There was also an honorable duty to defend the Motherland.
        Yes, this all happened, but the same “Kazan phenomenon” emerged under Brezhnev. This happened in other cities too. So what? My father talked about similar gangs in rural areas in the 60s, in which he also participated, and only military service saved him from the criminal path.
        That's all I mean. Here and in the article, particulars are discussed (individual TV series and films), but why doesn’t anyone ask the question, why in Kazan, for example, were almost all the boys in gangs? Why did this happen in other cities? Why, despite education, upbringing and opportunities, were they drawn to all this? Do these factors exist now and how to get rid of them?
        1. +8
          8 December 2023 18: 43
          Quote: Infinity
          and why in Kazan were almost all the boys in gangs? Why did this happen in other cities? Why, despite education, upbringing and opportunities, were they drawn to all this? Do these factors exist now and how to get rid of them?

          There are two reasons.
          The first is that young people often rebel simply to spite adults. Like I know better. This goes away with age, but some people manage to ruin their lives.
          The second is impunity. Until someone is killed, no one will seriously put pressure on them, and the rest, seeing this, are forced to adapt to them, simply out of self-preservation, because what’s the point of complaining if you are then hounded?
          About six months ago, I came across a video on YouTube that told how residents of one village or small town solved a similar problem. The fathers of normal kids just got together, caught a gang of local AUESHniks, took them to the forest and simply beat them half to death, promising that they would simply kill them later.
          It is noteworthy that the “boys”, wiping their snot, ran to write statements to the police about how their poor little ones were being insulted.
          I believe that there are simply no other real ways to bring young people ... to their senses - only hard pressure, with the selection and mandatory isolation of leaders who need to be immediately sent to their bunks.
          1. +9
            8 December 2023 19: 58
            Two reasons
            There is only one reason. Work on the collapse of the USSR began in the 70s. Gorby is just a switchman, whom Andropov brought to Moscow from Stavropol. After all, these street gangs would later develop into real gangs in the 90s, and there would be some healthy Russian guys killing other healthy Russian guys. And under the noise, the Khodorkovites will plunder the people's Soviet property into their pockets.
      3. 0
        8 December 2023 17: 32
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Unlike today, cities had FREE sports sections and hobby groups.

        They still exist. I regularly walk past the children's art center and several clubs. Everything is free. Even motorcycles!
      4. +5
        8 December 2023 19: 39
        I won’t idealize the Soviet system, but I won’t dirty it with greasy hands and thieves’ notions either.
        I just found all these groups and “winders”. There was always a choice, to fight with the gopota and not "drag" or not to fight and "dangle". My choice was to fight. I regularly got hit in the face and in other places and stayed for a long time, and less than three of them were afraid to approach me even behind school. And one by one, when they saw me, they ran away as fast as they could. Laughed at their “bravery” in their eyes. After a couple of years, they stopped bullying and getting to the bottom of things altogether. Tyap-lyap was nearby, but he was never afraid to walk there. I was stopped there more than once, too.
      5. +4
        10 December 2023 23: 06
        .+++
        I won’t idealize the Soviet system, but I won’t dirty it with greasy hands and thieves’ notions either.

        PERESTROIKA began with the film "Interdevochka" which romanticized prostitution; in addition, films with bandits and so on appeared... The film was shot according to the patterns of the nineties, and its goal is not to educate young people, but to introduce gangster concepts into the mass consciousness.. A harmful film.
        1. -1
          11 December 2023 23: 38
          Quote: aybolyt678
          Perestroika began with the film "Interdevochka"

          So that PERESTROIKA proclaimed in 1985, and the film is 1989- in 4 years. When miners already demanded capitalism...
          1. 0
            13 December 2023 09: 29
            miners already demanded capitalism....[/quote] first the authorities betrayed the country and only then the fooled people demanded justice and villas by the sea.
            1. -1
              13 December 2023 12: 30
              [quote=aybolyt678]miners already demanded capitalism....[/quote] first the authorities betrayed the country and only then the fooled people demanded justice and villas by the sea.[/quote]
              It was a little different...
              At first(1989) the miners demanded mines for themselves, the right to trade coal and keep foreign currency earnings, and then after 2 years (1991) the authorities betrayed the country.
              1. 0
                13 December 2023 13: 19
                the government betrayed the country. This process took longer than you might think. First, the public consciousness was prepared, a breakdown was made in it. In the virgin country, AIDS information and Solzhenitsyn began to be published. The basic points of support were violated, the country fell apart. And the miners’ cries are like indignation at the deception of thimble makers wink
                1. -2
                  13 December 2023 14: 59
                  Quote: aybolyt678
                  And the miners’ cries are like indignation at the deception of thimble makers

                  The miners' screams are a direct demand capitalism
                  Quote: aybolyt678
                  the government betrayed the country.
                  - but the people didn’t betray the country? Just don’t say that “the people looked at Moscow and waited for instructions” - otherwise you will get the feeling of a several hundred million herd of sheep. The suckers who were deceived by a couple of hundred thousand thimble-makers....
                  Quote: aybolyt678
                  virgin country
                  where did you get the idea that she was a virgin? In Moscow, maybe, but throughout the rest of the country, beyond the “101” kilometer, everyone knew everything perfectly well. Take my word for it.
                  1. 0
                    13 December 2023 18: 29
                    Believe the word.
                    How old are you and do you know what it was like? I'm like 57
      6. -1
        11 December 2023 23: 24
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Soviet youth had enough romance even without the street. Unlike today, cities had FREE sports sections and hobby groups.
        - and then people like you solemnly wonder, “And why didn’t the army, police and KGB stand up for the USSR? Where were our party bodies looking?”
        By the time of the film FREE there were already sports sections divided -
        You simply forgot:
        "Swing with a barbell in the ice hole and swim
        Maintain body culture, body to work
        Remember your figure and muscles
        You are an aggregate Dusya you are an aggregate Dusya
        You are a hundred kilowatt unit Dusya" (c)

        Quote: ROSS 42
        It was then that “highly ideological” leaders who went through criminal school were found.
        that is, by this time the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the USSR and the KGB had already rotted on the vine/betrayed their oath/simply sold out and started collecting money?
        The system was so rotten that it couldn’t even protect itself—what about the people?
    3. +18
      8 December 2023 06: 02
      [Those heroes about whom you write did not storm Grozny, and there were isolated cases, but excuse me, yesterday’s Soviet officers, conscripts, ordinary people fought, for whom the Motherland and honor are not an empty phrase. And the scumbags you are now idealizing at this time were celebrating the New Year in Moscow, dragging women by the tits, drinking champagne, making excuses from the army in every possible way, and they did not die in battle for their homeland, but in their brawls, dividing the money taken from the common people.

      +++++++++Human garbage will remain human garbage. As the classic said: “A thief should be in prison.” There can be no compromise here. Even “Liquidation” leaves an ambivalent feeling.” On the one hand, a talented, talented work, and on the other, a kind of “police “Penal Battalion.”” But both films are officially recommended for schoolchildren to watch in the 11th grade.

      Teenagers will watch a film about teenagers. And, due to weak life experience, they will perceive the external side. They will continue to “Honduran” at night. The collapse of the Union took place under similar films and similar articles in Komsomolskaya Pravda.

      The “spoon of honey” in this article is an admission that the Russian Federation was unable to create a model of adequate romance for teenagers. It's true, and that's the problem.
      1. +16
        8 December 2023 08: 15
        Quote: samarin1969
        The “spoon of honey” in this article is an admission that the Russian Federation was unable to create a model of adequate romance for teenagers. It's true, and that's the problem.

        Once again I couldn’t get past the adequate perception.
        Late 70s mid 80s. The death of one and the replacement of two more leaders due to the sudden death. The latest attempts to cling to some moral values ​​of the leadership, crazy from privileges, and the visible participation in solving the problems of the country of the “golden youth”. Everyone in the country saw this decay of leadership and guidance, everyone felt the stench of this uncertainty.
        But a holy place is never empty. And then new heroes emerged: blackmailers, co-operators, racketeers, prostitutes (in common people - prostitutes) and all the rest of the foam, showing every day that in order to live happily, you don’t need to build the Boyar Railway, raise virgin soil and build the BAM. Just think and you can find four hundred ways that Ostap Bender spoke about:
        - How do you think about taking the money?
        - It's not a matter of methods. Personally, I have 400 relatively honest ways to take money. The point is how to find such a rich individual. But they exist, they must exist. Since there are banknotes floating around in the country, it means there must be people who have a lot of them.
        - There are very rich people.

        Today in Russia state methods of this weaning are being cultivated and no one will trust such a state, especially at a young age, especially among older people who live a life different from the people.
        1. -1
          11 December 2023 23: 48
          Quote: ROSS 42
          there is no need to build the Boyar Railway,

          The responsible workers for that road should have been hanged as the most malicious enemies of the people...

          I live next to Algemba - it was built according to the same principle. First they began to fill the embankment, they dug it out for 30 km - and then it turned out that there were no rails or sleepers. And there were none from the beginning..
          They abandoned...
          They began to build a pipeline, from completely different (!!!) pipes, naturally it was leaky.
          They abandoned...
          How many people died there from disease, cold and hunger is unknown. Various sources say from 5 to 10.
          It is certain that by spring they were no longer buried, the corpses were lying around the steppe, as the old people said...
    4. +13
      8 December 2023 07: 21
      Sorry to quote: Yesterday's heroes of street gangs stormed Panjshir, took Grozny and are now beating the enemy in a special operation. You just spat so deliciously on the people who, with blood and honor, defended and are defending our country in difficult times.

      ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++
    5. +23
      8 December 2023 07: 58
      By and large, the film is about how the formation of the modern “elite” took place. One “kid” from this elite issued the well-known “May” decrees, then said, like a boy, that while he is in power, there will be no increase in the retirement age. He is in power, but the retirement age has been raised. And they continue to drag women by their tits, to excuse themselves from the army, in London, Dubai and other hot places. That’s why they demand to ban the film, realizing that the film is about them, and what if someone even guesses.
      1. +4
        9 December 2023 02: 14
        I'll get some downvotes - but I'll call this guy by his last name. This is Putin.
        In March we will go to vote for him with oohs and aahs - and who if not him?
        He has been promising for 23 years that tomorrow will be better - this time we will definitely believe it! Without his promises, life will not be confident in the future..
        For the sake of laughter or tears, type in Yandex - Putin’s election promises of 2004, 2008 and just listen for a couple of minutes. If at least ONE thing is completed, feel free to give me a minus.
        We are used to joking about Brezhnev - that he was permanent and there was stagnation, so our current Brezhnev outlasted his counterpart (literally! he sits longer and will still crush the throne for another 6 years) and under him, isn’t there stagnation? Only economic growth and prosperity? Today I looked at this growth using the example of chicken eggs - 120 “simple with poop”, and clean, large ones - 320! (Pyaterochka store, Moscow region). I wonder if it will reach 400+r for a dozen in NG? A chicken that lays eggs is cheaper than the same eggs that it produces once every 2 days. Rave! This is how we live And the fault of this nonsense is Putin!
        1. +1
          10 December 2023 23: 08
          Quote: Dmitry Ivanov_1991
          he has been promising for 23 years that tomorrow will be better

          but it’s better than 15 years ago! roads are built during the war!
          1. 0
            11 December 2023 01: 39
            which? according to the Platonic system? we pay steep roads, but we don’t build or repair free (municipal) roads.
            There are 2 roads from the MSC along Volokolamka, as an example - a toll road and a municipal one. Question for an expert: on what road are you guaranteed to destroy the suspension? Also, a certain oligarch who has been in prison for 23 years is not to blame? under him, early on, there was one road and a good one, now there are two and, like capitalism, you have a choice - which one you take yourself, but you will be a beggar, and which one you take, you will not only become beggars, but also lose your horse.
    6. +14
      8 December 2023 09: 47
      Do we have nothing else to film about, only about gangs in the 90s? It would be better if they made a series about how our guys fight in the Northern Military District or about volunteers, but there are a lot of good ones.
      1. +3
        8 December 2023 13: 07
        Quote: Wend
        Do we have nothing else to film about, only about gangs in the 90s? It would be better if they made a series about how our guys fight in the Northern Military District or about volunteers, but there are a lot of good ones.

        Anatoly! I see you are not a stupid person. That is why I will ask a rhetorical question: “Will the viewer believe in the filmed plots of a modern Cinderella, or remakes of The Irony of Fate and Office Romance?” You can count on the fingers of your hands the films that have received true recognition from the people: “Storm Gates”, “72 Meters”, “Voroshilovsky Shooter”, “Brother” and a few others.
        You're right, there are a lot of good ones. But will these topics be of interest to those who pour thousands into various competitions for outstanding body parts?
        There is a movie called “The Courier”, and in it there is a final scene in which the main character gives his friend a coat and asks him to think about something great. During the entire episode, music is playing and break dancing is happening in the courtyard, and in the background there is a soldier (demobilization with two medals and a demobilization suitcase). He stops, looks at this coven for a while and moves on... And these are young people of the same age, albeit with different interests and needs...
        hi
        1. +3
          8 December 2023 14: 22
          Quote: ROSS 42
          Quote: Wend
          Do we have nothing else to film about, only about gangs in the 90s? It would be better if they made a series about how our guys fight in the Northern Military District or about volunteers, but there are a lot of good ones.

          Anatoly! I see you are not a stupid person. That is why I will ask a rhetorical question: “Will the viewer believe in the filmed plots of a modern Cinderella, or remakes of The Irony of Fate and Office Romance?” You can count on the fingers of your hands the films that have received true recognition from the people: “Storm Gates”, “72 Meters”, “Voroshilovsky Shooter”, “Brother” and a few others.
          You're right, there are a lot of good ones. But will these topics be of interest to those who pour thousands into various competitions for outstanding body parts?
          There is a movie called “The Courier”, and in it there is a final scene in which the main character gives his friend a coat and asks him to think about something great. During the entire episode, music is playing and break dancing is happening in the courtyard, and in the background there is a soldier (demobilization with two medals and a demobilization suitcase). He stops, looks at this coven for a while and moves on... And these are young people of the same age, albeit with different interests and needs...
          hi

          Everything you pointed out to me was close, I looked. Stories of modern Cinderellas are serialized in such quantities that it’s not enough. I don’t know whether they believe it or not, but apparently they are watching. I remember the film “Cheburashka”; the viewer was so tired of the dominance of chernukha about corrupt police officers, crime and other lobuda that they flocked to “Cheburashka”. My son and I went and did not regret it. That’s why I pointed out two topics of SVO and volunteering. Here you can create any story you want. The difficulty here is different; even seemingly patriotic films come out with a liberal flavor. Take "Crimea", it seems to be about our victory, but the main character there is a Nazi Bandera, with whom the film begins and ends, and our patriot guy dies in the subtext. And this is being positioned as a love story against the backdrop of those events. In "Courier" this is a very strong scene, but it is ambiguous: either the hero sees himself two years later, or a meeting of two people with a gap in their worldview, or two different worlds, or in general the departure of the Soviet past and the arrival of the wild 90s, the ending remains open.
    7. +3
      8 December 2023 09: 48
      Absolutely accurately and correctly written, bravo, hats off. hi I have a disgusting feeling after reading this article and this movie is disgusting and filthy.
      1. -1
        11 December 2023 23: 58
        Quote from AdAstra
        A disgusting feeling after reading this article and this movie is disgusting and filthy

        The film is quite truthful - about a disgusting and filthy time when EVERYONE BETRAYED the USSR - everyone who was obliged to protect it: the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the KGB, the Army, the CPSU.
        All of them together began to look for a warm place and a feeding trough, and to tear apart the country in their burrows.
        Stolen...
    8. +1
      8 December 2023 18: 47
      I didn’t look, where did the bile come from? The series is a tragedy of the youth of that time; there is no romance here like in gangster Petersburg or the Brigade. This film does not idealize, but shows fear. Once again, this is a tragedy film. Yes, those who didn’t get caught, those who lived in parallel with this, went to the Ministry of Internal Affairs and to hot spots. What is your post about, this didn’t happen, didn’t affect everyone? Should this be hidden? Then the adventure of electronics and over the rainbow should be prohibited, because the consequence is what happened - yes, sarcasm. A useful film about how not to live.
      1. +2
        9 December 2023 10: 24
        A useful film about how not to live.

        And what, at the end of the film the “bad” ones are punished? Or are they not there, and are they all victims of the “bloody regime”?
        1. 0
          9 December 2023 19: 37
          The regime was not bloody, but indifferent. The amount went along with ideology at school, causing disgust not only for ideology but also for school (and, accordingly, for learning). The film contains not only the street but personal life, the relationship between parents and children. I saw everything that is in the film. It was an interesting film to me; it seemed lively and honest; nostalgic people didn’t join the gang. What happened to the characters is interesting to those who watch and those who don’t – I don’t see the point in telling.
          1. +2
            9 December 2023 19: 48
            I graduated from school in 83, I don’t remember at all that anyone here went crazy with ideology, even though there was political information, but no one cared about it. However, our town is small, there were no gangs, although they were divided into districts, and strangers sometimes got it.
            1. 0
              9 December 2023 20: 18
              In the film Kazan, those who were in Kazan at that time confirm the situation. But it also happened in large cities. The problem here is not local show-offs, but the management of children by criminals. The crime that realized during Gorbachev’s reign that they could milk it from cooperatives. It was even worse to join a gang in order not to be touched, but to leave was like losing your life, which is even worse - this is shown in the film. You are probably a lucky person who has not seen or encountered this.
              About ideology. From city to year from generation to generation: poems, meeting, Thursday, analysis of congresses. From the outside it already looked ridiculous. I have different views on this, one might say it’s a matter of taste, there’s no point in arguing. I like the time better today than then. I asked the children how the situation was at school, they said this film was interesting but indifferent in terms of hype. At school, just like then, they offend someone, but I did not see a gang standing near a store or school and extorting money, like the times of Gorbachev-Yeltsin.
            2. 0
              9 December 2023 20: 54
              I'll add one more thing to what was said. At my school, a pioneer girl was destroyed by hooligans even before the putsch. The sequence of acceptance into pioneers according to academic performance, with some privileges, was divided into one’s own and not one’s. I don’t think that the students were indifferent to some nuances. My opinion is that there should be no ideologies in school, but it would be possible to teach politics as a subject.
    9. +7
      8 December 2023 19: 33
      Quote from turembo
      Those heroes about whom you write did not storm Grozny, and there were isolated cases, but excuse me, yesterday’s Soviet officers, conscripts, ordinary people fought, for whom the Motherland and honor are not an empty phrase. And the scumbags you are now idealizing at this time were celebrating the New Year in Moscow, dragging women by the tits, drinking champagne, making excuses from the army in every possible way, and they did not die in battle for their homeland, but in their brawls, dividing the money taken from the common people. And now the bandits have fled all over Dubai, and besides the army, the people fighting are ordinary mobilized people who have regular jobs and families.

      Absolutely right!
      The author is generally not all right with his conceptual apparatus, since he was even able to write something like the last paragraph!
      It may sound pompous, but the success of the drama about the Kazan boys gives us hope that not everything in the enemy’s camp is lost for us...

      Author, I’ll remind you just in case laughing - spices are prohibited!
      But I can’t explain your above-quoted maxim in any other way. The success of films about scumbags, based on the revival of youth’s interest in the thieves’ subculture (which was greatly facilitated by the rise of AUE, which is rapidly plunging our country into the darkness of street lawlessness) gives hope that not everything is lost in the country... This is necessary!
    10. +4
      8 December 2023 23: 02
      I agree, but only partly

      turembo
      celebrated the New Year in Moscow, dragging women by their tits, drinking champagne, making excuses for the army in every possible way

      These were more likely to be among the Moscow “golden youth” and “anti-lichenity”.
      I served in the army in the last years of the USSR, and just met former gopniks who joined the army without any resistance. Another question is that they tried to establish their own semi-criminal rules in the army, and here it depended on the strength of character of the officers and warrant officers
    11. +1
      10 December 2023 10: 13
      Quote from turembo
      And now the bandits have fled all over Dubai, and besides the army, the people fighting are ordinary mobilized people who have regular jobs and families...
      You write as if there were no Wagnerites in the Northern Military District, who were thrown into the thick of it, or there was no recruitment of bandits from the Gulag during the Second World War; only Komsomol and party secretaries showed heroism. It’s ugly, to say the least, to lie about people who atoned for their crimes with their blood, and by and large, it’s vile.
    12. +1
      11 December 2023 15: 22
      I (an asshole - a mathematician who grew up in a working-class suburb) made peace with the gopniks precisely when they went to die for me in the First Chechen. So the author writes correctly.
    13. 0
      13 December 2023 14: 42
      You are a thousand times right, this is idealization and propaganda of banditry.
    14. 0
      14 December 2023 19: 03
      The series “The Boy’s Word. Blood on the Asphalt" about Kazan teenagers in the 1980s. All this is near and far to me.

      Close in that Hadi Taktash was nearby, literally behind the fence of the Kazan Higher Tank Command School. Far away, because at that time this boyish kipesh was just emerging. But even then, walking along Hadi Taktash Street in the evenings was scary.

      Let's not forget that the coolest Kazan teenagers, 17-18 years old, came to the school. And in 74-75, the cadets were in authority.
      Viktor Murakhovsky, reserve colonel
  2. +21
    8 December 2023 05: 11
    The author is a great talent, AP needs to pay attention to him. The fact that the authorities are pursuing an information policy to introduce criminal consciousness into society is not news. They have been doing this since the early 90s - they are filming dozens of gangster series and “cop wars”. The fact that anti-Sovietism is the basic ideology of the regime is news to an even lesser extent. But the way the author “defined an illness as a feat” and the type of consciousness characteristic of the wild bantustans of the third world was considered a sign of how “far modern society has stepped forward in comparison with the late USSR” evokes sympathy for his talent.
    And the ending is generally enchanting - gangster series as a sign that in Maidan Ukraine (the one where the Nazis, if anyone has not forgotten) not everything is lost for us and this is a sign of our Victory (with a capital P).
    To be honest, I couldn’t stand it and shed a few tears.
    1. +10
      8 December 2023 06: 03
      The fact that society has stepped far forward is a fact. Another question is in which direction?
      1. man
        +1
        8 December 2023 18: 10
        Quote: mmaxx
        The fact that society has stepped far forward is a fact. Another question is in which direction?

        We are balancing over the abyss, a wrong step and the country will fall into the abyss
    2. +5
      8 December 2023 08: 19
      Introduction of criminal consciousness, now? How is this possible? AUE ban? Previously, I agree with all sorts of brigades and St. Petersburg, etc. But lately they haven’t been removing positive bandit ones or am I mistaken? In general, in Almaty in the 80s we had a bunch of youth groups, the film “Districts” was made about it. The main problem of modern youth is the lack of consequences for their actions. They are accustomed to the fact that through the Internet no one will clean up their face, no one will hold them accountable for their words. This is where modern realities come from, when a 30-year-old man stands and bays that I’m sorry, I didn’t think about it, etc.
    3. 0
      10 December 2023 10: 28
      Quote: Belisarius
      The fact that the authorities are pursuing an information policy to introduce criminal consciousness into society is not news.
      This is not “as if”, but definitely not news, but slander, through which internal and external enemies of Russia and lackeys paid by the West are trying to shake up the political situation in the Russian Federation.
  3. +5
    8 December 2023 05: 46
    But in the credits there is a familiar inscription - “Smoking is harmful to health.” But this was all in Soviet times. As Raikin said, “The time was disgusting.. But there was fish.” All this was at a time of ideological debt. Now we have peace and quiet. Just think, a boy or a girl will take a gun. And to school... The essence of humanity does not change over centuries or millennia. Especially when the future is not highlighted. When in such expanses of the country they offer you food with small creature. Go figure out who eats real cutlets and who is a surrogate.
  4. -14
    8 December 2023 06: 07
    For some reason, life taught me not to trust good people. With beautiful faces. And for some reason, simple former hooligans or those close to them now evoke warmth and sympathy. They swear, they are prickly and uncomfortable, sometimes it is difficult to negotiate with them, they drink, they even fight. But for some reason they are the way they are. But all the so-called. good people... you can expect everything from them. But most often you cannot rely on them.
    1. -10
      8 December 2023 06: 47
      Oh, and right now the bigoted righteous people will beat you into your slippers for “sedition”...
      But I myself am one of these “boys”, if anything, although I studied at the best school in the city... the daughter of the first secretary of the city party committee is my classmate. And besides her, more than half of the class were from "thieves", so-called wealthy families... respected people of the city... such as a prosecutor, a director of a restaurant or a photo studio...
      And I can’t stand pink snot about some kind of social justice in Soviet times... you’re lying... and then it never existed, especially in everyday life.
      1. -15
        8 December 2023 07: 11
        I don't care. Let them minisize. I have long adhered to the principle that everything in the world is made by bad people. They forced the good ones to do something and work. And good people are good because they didn’t do anything and there’s nothing to scold them for.
        1. 0
          8 December 2023 21: 25
          Good... Bad...
          There are crimes incl. criminal, including banditry, robbery, theft, murder, this is good for you, apparently. These are the people you look up to...
        2. +1
          12 December 2023 15: 35
          What nonsense. Did the engineers, designers, and workers at the plant do anything? Teachers, doctors, sailors, soldiers, researchers... Who did that? Pakhans and lessons? You have now insulted such a layer completely undeservedly.... What is going on in your head anyway?
          1. -1
            12 December 2023 16: 30
            Think a little. Philosophically. And don't write too much. I didn’t write anything at all about godfathers, etc.
            However, I don’t force you to agree.
            1. 0
              13 December 2023 10: 05
              In this case, there is a simple criterion of truth - oranges do not grow from aspen trees, I advise you to sometimes check your philosophy with it, otherwise it can be very different.
            2. 0
              13 December 2023 10: 14
              And if you think not “philosophically” but logically, then based on the fact that being lazy and stupid is bad, but forcing idle people to be useful is good, then you have somewhat confused black and white.
      2. +18
        8 December 2023 08: 23
        Quote: kepmor
        I can’t stand pink snot about some kind of social justice in Soviet times... you’re lying... and then it never existed, especially in everyday life

        Do you have it now?

        A question of size. There was more social justice then. In life, in everyday life, and in static indicators, today’s capitalists cannot even come close to the social achievements of socialism. And some cancel altogether! Pensions, free education, sections, medicine... The indisputable fact is that for the common man, the working man, Soviet society was more fair and humane. Both prices in stores and tariffs for housing and communal services did not increase after the New Year!
      3. +8
        8 December 2023 17: 05
        Justice was also expressed in the fact that you are a hooligan of the district, you studied together with the children of high ranks. And you were given the same education. But you don’t see it point blank.
      4. man
        +7
        8 December 2023 18: 21
        Quote: kepmor
        Oh, and right now the bigoted righteous people will beat you into your slippers for “sedition”...
        But I myself am one of these “boys”, if anything, although I studied at the best school in the city... the daughter of the first secretary of the city party committee is my classmate. And besides her, more than half of the class were from "thieves", so-called wealthy families... respected people of the city... such as a prosecutor, a director of a restaurant or a photo studio...
        И I can’t stand pink snot about some kind of social justice in Soviet times... you’re lying... and then she was never born, especially in everyday life.

        You’re right, there was social injustice in the USSR. It’s a question of degree!
        Compared to the current one, it was simply minuscule! But your children won’t be in danger of being classmates with the mayor’s daughter. smile
      5. +8
        8 December 2023 21: 50
        pink snot about some kind of social justice in Soviet times... you're lying... and then it never existed, especially in everyday life.
        My aunt worked as a simple janitor in a housing office, lived in a communal apartment with her family and stood in line for an apartment. When her turn came, she got a two-room apartment in a Stalinist house on the Garden Ring opposite the former Forum cinema (Muscovites know where it is and how much it costs now). Moreover, the neighbor behind the wall is MARK BERNES himself, I didn’t find him personally, but I had to communicate with his wife over a cup of tea. How do you like these pink snot...
    2. +2
      8 December 2023 12: 41
      It's not easy for you to get a diagnosis.
      Either illiteracy and inability to use quotation marks and understand their meaning, or a banal inability to distinguish between form and content.
      To classify “beautiful people with bright faces” as good people requires a fair amount of imagination. Well, or be completely devoid of any empathy.
    3. +2
      8 December 2023 16: 56
      Quote: mmaxx
      For some reason, life taught me not to trust good people. With beautiful faces. And for some reason, simple former hooligans or those close to them now evoke warmth and sympathy. They swear, they are prickly and uncomfortable, sometimes it is difficult to negotiate with them, they drink, they even fight. But for some reason they are the way they are. But all the so-called. good people... you can expect everything from them. But most often you cannot rely on them.

      I read it and remembered it! Approximately 80-82. I came home on vacation with my youngest son. We are walking with him along the alley of the city park, and suddenly I see a neat old woman sitting on a bench with a book in her hands. And this old lady Zoya Vasilyevna, the head teacher of our school! Naturally, I come up and say hello, calling her by IO. She told me - Are you my former student? Me - No, you didn’t teach me, you were the head teacher.
      She asked me not to identify myself. I thought about it and called my last name, but I couldn’t remember my name.
      And at the end of our meeting. - You know, she says, you haven’t been in the city for a long time, but you saw me and came up and said hello. You studied well, but the same cannot be said about your behavior. But many excellent students in all subjects who live here in the city pass by and don’t even say hello, let alone speak!
      ps. I was convinced of her words more than once! She was right!
    4. man
      +5
      8 December 2023 18: 25
      Quote: mmaxx
      For some reason, life taught me not to trust good people. With beautiful faces. And for some reason, simple former hooligans or those close to them now evoke warmth and sympathy. They swear, they are prickly and uncomfortable, sometimes it is difficult to negotiate with them, they drink, they even fight. But for some reason they are the way they are. But all the so-called. good people... you can expect everything from them. But most often you cannot rely on them.

      A typical example of gangster psychology. Rejoice, yours took
  5. +21
    8 December 2023 06: 24
    Propaganda of criminals. Come on, open the window wider. Continue promoting drug addicts and maniacs.
    Tell me why, having lived in the Union for 30 years, I have not met the “boys”? But in the Trade Federation they are at every step?
    1. +1
      8 December 2023 10: 49
      Quote: Gardamir
      Propaganda of criminals. Come on, open the window wider. Continue promoting drug addicts and maniacs.
      Tell me why, having lived in the Union for 30 years, I have not met the “boys”? But in the Trade Federation they are at every step?

      Where did you live that everything was so beautiful for you?
      The mid-late eighties, a regional Siberian city of 500 thousand people, all divided into microdistricts, there are countless small skirmishes, and large ones (30x30 or more) are rarer, but also present, we (the little things) are at the “warm-up”. In the evening, go to another area alone and sign a sentence for yourself, at best, on your butt. During the day, if you don’t run very well, they can also catch you and shake you for small change, like Pinocchio, by your legs (I got caught like that a couple of times myself).
      What about the cities, I remember in the summer they sent me to my cousin’s village (Krasnoyarsk Territory, “village-forming” enterprises - three zones, where the employees and the remaining Osvobozhdenie residents live, respectively.
      Do you know how the village was divided among young people and teenagers? It would be logical to use the conditional “children of employees” and “children of former prisoners”, but no, not like that, but simply “Upper” and “Lower” and the fights took place almost worse than in the city, and driving a bike (motorcycle) through The other part of the village was considered one of the components of the “boy” exam.
      So I can’t imagine how this passed you by, the young people lived for it, but the older ones (30+) may not have really delved into it, of course, there were other worries
      1. +2
        8 December 2023 21: 27
        No one is saying that this did not happen. It is necessary to film in such a way that such actions evoke a feeling of disgust and a desire not to imitate, but to make sure that this does not happen again.
      2. Egg
        +1
        10 December 2023 04: 53
        Quote: Gvardeetz77
        The mid-late eighties, a regional Siberian city of 500 thousand people, all divided into microdistricts, there are countless small skirmishes, and large ones (30x30 or more) are rarer, but also present, we (the little things) are at the “warm-up”.

        Well, this is child's play, like the ancient wall to wall, this happened everywhere, but the crowd did not kick people to death, murders in a fight were rare, and gunfire was a state of emergency for the entire union.
        In general, such as you describe happened in areas saturated with zones and settlements that were deconvoyed, and, well, dispossessed in the 20s and 30s. I remember, growing up in Belgorod, I was very struck during my service in Komsomolsk-on-Amur by the attitude of the local population towards the military, there was even an order to send demobilization in teams and a ban on soldiers being dismissed because of murders. Here in the Belgorod region, where in every house a soldier will be seated at the table, given water and food, in the store they will be allowed to skip the line and they will buy him another bottle or give him money if he doesn’t have enough... the memory of the war and soldiers is apparently fixed at the genetic level, but at a distant in the east, apparently there was a different memory... about convoys and camps.
  6. +9
    8 December 2023 06: 36
    Found this time. I remember well. I don’t wish this kind of repetition for my grandchildren under any circumstances. The film is interesting to watch, but when you understand what it is. Rather, it is a memory of youth that cannot be returned.
  7. +6
    8 December 2023 06: 42
    Desperately nostalgic for the late Soviet Union
    You will also write to Russia that is desperately nostalgic for the 90s. The mid-80s and 90s do not evoke nostalgia. And if there is, then nostalgia for the present.
    I don't know about the others
    but I feel the cruelest
    not nostalgia for the past -
    nostalgia for the present.
    As if the novice wants to go to the Lord,
    Well, access only to the abbot -
    so I beg for access
    without intermediaries to the present.
    It's like I did something alien
    or even not me - others.
    I'll fall into a clearing - I feel it
    nostalgia for the living earth.
    No one will split you and me.
    But when I hug you -
    I hug you with such sadness,
    like someone is taking you away.
    Loneliness will not be redeemed
    There is an open carpentry into the garden.
    It's not art that I'm yearning for,
    I'm really suffocating.
    When I hear petty tirades
    a fallen comrade,
    I'm not looking for a likeness - an original,
    I'm sad for him, for real.
    Everything is made of plastic, even rags.
    I'm tired of living sketchily.
    You and I will not exist in the future,
    and the church...
    And when he laughs in my face
    idiotic mafia,
    I say: “Idiots are a thing of the past.
    There is a growth of understanding in the present.”
    Black water gushes from the tap,
    the redhead whips, real,
    rusty water gushes from the tap.
    I'll wait - the real one will come.
    What is past is past. For the better.
    But I bite it like a secret,
    nostalgia for real.
    What will come. I won't catch you.
    1976
    A. Voznesensky
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    1. +6
      8 December 2023 07: 14
      Yes, the majority were in such companies. Some went on their way, while others sat down. Everyone drank, but some got drunk and some didn’t.
      1. -3
        8 December 2023 07: 21
        Quote: mmaxx
        Everyone drank

        I remember the following joke went around: “Nikolashka introduced prohibition - the Empire collapsed. Hunchback introduced prohibition - the Union collapsed. With Yeltsin, Russia will definitely not collapse.” laughing
        Helavissa has a song, "Sir John Backword", there is a magnificent line..."But as long as the Russian people drink, the planet will live" wink
        1. 0
          10 December 2023 06: 40
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmUumvKTSeE
          So))))
    2. +6
      8 December 2023 08: 09
      The film is about chaos. happening in the late USSR
      Let's divide the Union in half. Relatively speaking it was good. there was some bad stuff too. It’s just that they film the bad things 150%. And it was as if there was no good.
      By the way, Zhora gooseberries is a pseudonym; he lived in the Union for 12 years. And this film is being promoted by the guys from TNT and Bekmambetov, who made a bunch of anti-Soviet films and condemned the SVO
      1. +5
        8 December 2023 19: 11
        Quote: Gardamir
        It’s just that they film the bad things 150%. And it was as if there was no good.
        By the way, Zhora gooseberries is a pseudonym; he lived in the Union for 12 years. And this film is being promoted by the boys from TNT
        Totally agree with you. Were there problems with teenagers in the USSR? Yes it was and they didn’t hide it, they tried to solve it. In the Union in 1983 Was filmed by Dinara Asanova a wonderful film "The Boys" about the problems of teenagers, and by the way shown in the film how to adults can solve this problem. In 84 I came back from service, the film was shown in cinemas, I watched it with pleasure, I remembered my time before the army... yes, but the army straightened my brains out, I began to look at many things differently. By the way, they filmed real characters there, not clowns as they are now. In general, with the collapse of the USSR quality of films fell greatly, they began to copy Hollywood products, and like all copies, they are disgusting. “The Brigade” is an unsuccessful copy of “Once Upon a Time in America.” “9th Company”, an imitation of “Full Metal Jacket”, but the current “The Boy’s Word” is probably a remake of the film “Gangs of New York” for Russia. Actually, an interesting fact from the biography of Robert Gareev.
        In 2001, when I was 25, I moved to Moscow. Since then, I have been a music and club journalist, a DJ, a XNUMX-hour party animal and a tour guide at the Jewish Museum, that is, I have done things far from the street. Now that street period seems to be shrouded in a gloomy gray haze for me - for a very long time I tried to repress it and forget it.

        A few years ago, a colleague at the Jewish Museum invited me to give a fifteen-minute talk at a public talk about any unique experience I had, hinting that I would talk about the nightlife of the 1990s and 2000s, but I realized that I had something more unusual.
        This is where the wind blows.
    3. +1
      8 December 2023 08: 45
      Quote from Bingo
      Blatnyak flourished, the same Vysrotsky - pure thieves. Do you want to bet?

      Argue with Vysotsky's son. He claims that Vysotsky cannot be classified as a criminal author, he was different. He said that Vysotsky moved away from criminal songs, that it was just a gap in the young age of the poet and singer. Formative period.
      1. 0
        10 December 2023 06: 47
        He's biased - no? I wrote above, read “A Novel about Girls”, it seems to me that this is objective, this is Semenych HIMSELF, not his son.
  9. +13
    8 December 2023 07: 12
    First, a small clarification on the article PMC "Redan" did not grow out of "The Squid Game", but from the manga (Japanese comics) "Hunter x Hunter".

    About the series, I would like to quote a statement from one of the characters said to his children (the father of the main character played by Sergei Burunov).

    The quote is not verbatim:

    “It’s unclear what’s going on in the country, and your head is a mess.”

    This phrase can also describe our time. What is happening to our country?
    What kind of future do those who are now 15-16 years old see? The answer is simple, they don’t see any future, and that’s where all the talk about patriotic education can end.

    When instead of prospects and hopes there is a black hole, you can conduct “Conversations about important things” around the clock, the result will be unchanged.
    1. +9
      8 December 2023 08: 06
      What is happening to our country?
      I remember the perestroika film American Fight and the phrase from this film: “What have you done to the country?” This phrase is still relevant today.
    2. +3
      8 December 2023 17: 15
      I fully support it, everything is correct.
  10. +25
    8 December 2023 07: 33
    As one of the critics rightly noted, for a considerable part of the guys in the 70s and 80s, the word “boy” was transformed into the word “officer”. Yesterday's heroes of street gangs stormed Panjshir and took Grozny

    The author has mixed up everything in the world!
    Where is the “gangster’s honor” and where is the “officer’s honor”.
    In our unit (training) there were Kazan gangs, and those who authored the article, following the authors of the series, through their lips called “chushpans”. Although, I will say clearly, everyone who was not part of a gang was not called that. Chushpan - has a clear conatation.
    Those who were not part of gangs had a hard time on the street, but they were neither weaklings nor cowards. They just didn’t want to be part of gangs of idiots with the intelligence of galvanized teapots. One on one they would attack any member of the “pack”, but not against two dozen.
    The author writes complete nonsense. What kind of “justice” does jackals have in a pack?
    And our officers! I don’t know where, but in our country these were really people of honor, brave, skillful, able to teach a soldier what would ensure unquestioning execution of orders!
    The army and the “jackals” from the criminal milieu were incompatible things at that time.
    1. +14
      8 December 2023 08: 08
      hi
      The author has mixed up everything in the world!
      Eduard, the author did not confuse, he deliberately wrote this, replacing concepts. Now, many concepts are being replaced.
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  12. +2
    8 December 2023 08: 12
    Young people at all times require moral ideals. State ideology is lame on both legs (if it even has them), but a holy place is never empty. It is not surprising that a talented film on a new topic caused such a response. I'm afraid it will go beyond simple cosplay.

    By the way, street gangster “romance” is not something new; the film “Generals of the Sand Pit”, for example, was popular in the USSR.
  13. -5
    8 December 2023 08: 13
    Our society is traditionally class-based. Apparently it cannot be changed.
    And the democratic laws of the USSR were not implemented there because they were absolutely alien to society. Today's bydlo does not even know that the legislation of the USSR was democratic. This is the main reason for the collapse of the country.

    To stop this process, we need to give everyone what they deserve - “return to the roots.” First of all, bydlu is Harlem like New York. -
    And the upper classes are still only in the formative stage.... They are molded together from what they have. Otherwise, it’s all screwed.
  14. +7
    8 December 2023 08: 15
    Quote from Bingo
    By the way, in the USSR there was no need to teach it to anyone, the thieves flourished, the same Vysrotsky was a pure thieves.


    I'm afraid you are too categorical. Blatnyak, of course, he had, and we listened to this as children, but there was not only Blatnyak and not even so much Blatnyak. I think that if Vysotsky only had the blatnyak, he would have already been forgotten.
  15. -6
    8 December 2023 08: 22
    The series is really cool. And that's a fact. Everyone, to the extent of their development, can learn something from it. Some people see advertisements for thieves’ romance, others, on the contrary, see all its abomination. Given the success of our social policy, the question arises about the future after the end of the SVO. Where will all those men with combat experience go? Perhaps that is why we are seeing attempts to ban this series. Some people were worried...
    1. +6
      8 December 2023 09: 27
      Where will all those men with combat experience go?
      How to where? To their jobs, which they retain while they are at war. smile True, those who have them and those who will return.
    2. +1
      8 December 2023 21: 30
      Exactly, due to its development. If the development is not enough, then perhaps the series is "cool".
      And it’s not about cool business. This kind of film is completely inappropriate now.
  16. +1
    8 December 2023 08: 29
    Quote: mmaxx
    I have long adhered to the principle that everything in the world is made by bad people. They forced the good ones to do something and work. And good people are good because they didn’t do anything and there’s nothing to scold them for.


    Did you come up with this yourself or is it a quote? What I mean is that it feels like an aphorism.
    1. -1
      8 December 2023 10: 16
      Purely my own. Hard-won. I came up with a lot of things. :-). I give it. I can even hear my own toast from all over the country. Although I’m not a master at toasts and speeches.
      1. +1
        8 December 2023 13: 05
        I read some of your posts. Hats off - some are very good. I wouldn't have come up with this. Well, I wouldn’t have come up with this idea...
        1. 0
          9 December 2023 14: 45
          So some were invented among friends. Now I hardly drink. laughing laughing laughing
  17. +2
    8 December 2023 08: 58
    Now everything is for money... That means there is a goal, they won’t just give you money.
    It’s better not to watch what’s on the box, because it’s brainwashing. Especially anything “popular” and “entertaining”.
    In my time, the slogan worked well: “the box is for pensioners.”
    And voila, the brain was cleared, critical thinking immediately appeared and a “formula for success” was outlined))
    1. +2
      8 December 2023 09: 25
      In my time, the slogan worked well: “the box is for pensioners.”
      And voila, the brain is cleared,

      What's good? Have you switched to the Internet, where everyone finds what is closer and clearer to them? There you don't need critical thinking, even if your "brain has cleared."
      1. +3
        8 December 2023 09: 45
        And I became like this))
        I dare to disagree.) Working with different sources is what shapes it. (critical thinking).
        1. 0
          8 December 2023 10: 29
          But then you need to know the official point of view (TV). There will be something to criticize. hi
          1. +4
            8 December 2023 10: 31
            The official media is on the internet.
            By the way, that’s where I learned about the series. wink
            1. 0
              8 December 2023 19: 23
              Quote: awdrgy
              The official media is on the internet.

              What a long way to go. So the series is only available on the Internet, and has nothing to do with TV yet.
              1. 0
                9 December 2023 08: 41
                laughing Don’t tell me that you also had to strain your brain with logarithms at school? Not funny.
                The conversation is about propaganda, brainwashing and those who give money for it and why. In addition to the Internet, this series will be on street banners (and perhaps it already is) and will be in the box.
                1. 0
                  9 December 2023 11: 01
                  Quote: awdrgy
                  Don’t tell me that you also had to strain your brain with logarithms at school?

                  No, I'm just a bespectacled person and I like to read. feel
                  Quote: awdrgy
                  The conversation is about propaganda, brainwashing and those who give money for it and why.

                  The state gives. Do you think the state promotes crime? What about the goal? Should the budget of the Ministry of Internal Affairs be increased?
                  1. 0
                    11 December 2023 13: 35
                    I have no idea what the purpose is. Only unprovable assumptions. In addition, the state consists of different people. Who also have their own (not their own) interests.
  18. -7
    8 December 2023 09: 06
    My house cat is a real bandit. And when he goes out to the dacha and walks around the neighbors, it’s clearly visible. He even has ideas about honor! He's no worse than the boys.
    But he's not a human...

    The boys can create an organized crime group. They can fight too.

    But to create a political party fighting for justice?? Heh.... heh... Not the 19th century, gentlemen! For this we need nobles.

    And the boys will immediately ask: “What is justice?”
    So: are boys good people or bad people? Neither one nor the other... They are beyond morality...we will have to wait for the formation of a new nobility, so imprudently expelled by the revolutions of the early 20th century. .
    1. +4
      8 December 2023 09: 29
      Not the 19th century, gentlemen!
      And in the 19th century, there were boyish groups that created political parties and fought for justice?
    2. +4
      8 December 2023 13: 18
      Ivan 2022, Saltychikha was a noblewoman, there were others. The new nobility is now being formed from the majors and the same matured boys. What will it be like? "Oranges don't grow on aspen trees."
    3. 0
      9 December 2023 14: 53
      The question is that these groups are an experience of self-organization. Concepts of what a leader should/can be. That one must occupy some place in the hierarchy, etc., etc.
      Like the Americans: Be a leader or follow the leader or don’t get in the way. We are monkeys. And it’s difficult for us alone.
  19. -6
    8 December 2023 09: 13
    I confirm on my own behalf that the talent of director Kryzhovnikov, without a doubt, the series was shot very high quality, the plot would seem simple, yes, about gangs... but it is deep, it illuminates the time against the backdrop of the death of the country, when people did not know how to live on, what will be soon... the series got a five rating, those who haven’t watched it are obviously yelling that it’s bad, well, it’s not serious, friends... it was filmed in my city, one might say on the next street, with the participation of acquaintances and friends in the episodes. ..I recommend watching (not advertising)))))
    1. 0
      8 December 2023 09: 49
      talent of director Kryzhovnikov

      You’re really interested, what else good has this “certainly talented and promising” director made?
      1. 0
        8 December 2023 11: 07
        Call DiCaprio, excellent shot...recommended
        1. +2
          8 December 2023 12: 57
          superbly shot

          Well, take Hollywood, most of the films there are also shot “excellently” (beautiful, expensive, spectacular, bright), but if you take the semantic load (let’s call it “morality”), then it’s a disaster... Don’t you think that and in the case of the series in question, will the viewer find some kind of moral (lesson) after watching it to the end?
          1. -1
            8 December 2023 13: 01
            I don’t like Hollywood, there’s more than enough meaning in the series...as far as I understand, you haven’t watched it, but you’re just spewing poison, trying to prove your imaginary superiority...is that right?
            1. +1
              8 December 2023 13: 18
              you didn’t look, as far as I understand, but you’re just spraying poison, trying to prove your imaginary superiority...that’s right, no

              It's true that I didn't look. It’s not true that I’m trying to prove something. Disputes do not give birth to truth. I just wanted to know whether there is some kind of “morality” in this series or not... Will the people who watch it become better people or not?...
              1. -2
                8 December 2023 15: 23
                As for whether or not they will become better... the question is so deep that it cannot be answered here in two sentences... from what series or films of the new time have people become better... and you don’t have an answer, I’m sure... and it’s not an end in itself I think I’ll become a better person by watching something... but the fact that it attracts you and you’re waiting for a new series... it’s there, I can say for that in my own person... and millions of ordinary people like me
    2. 0
      8 December 2023 13: 07
      Everything would be fine, but with such spelling and punctuation it is better not to engage in advertising, the effect is the opposite.
      It's simply impossible to read beyond the third line.
      1. 0
        8 December 2023 13: 19
        well, I’m writing as is customary on the Internet, and not at school in a Russian language lesson, this is not a thesis work, this is the first thing. Specifically, no one forces you to read (since they don’t read to you), this is the second thing. And lastly, this is never an advertisement)
  20. VLR
    +7
    8 December 2023 10: 04
    This is, of course, ideological sabotage. I’m afraid it will be similar to the situation after the release of the notorious “Brigade,” when teenage gangs were created throughout Russia, whose members called themselves after their “favorite heroes.” And even the caricatured Ukrainian Nazi Muzychko took for himself the pseudonym “Sashko Bely.” And those who write that the series is well filmed - don’t you understand that this is precisely what poses the greatest danger? It would be so-and-so if he was poorly filmed. The sluggish reaction of the authorities is surprising. Did they decide to prepare an army of criminals like this for possible recruitment into the new “Wagner”?
  21. -4
    8 December 2023 10: 12
    Cough cough.
    1. I haven’t watched the series.
    2. The Soviet culture shown there is much less interesting to today’s teenagers than the conventional Harry Potter. The game of chushpans is not much more serious, although it is also more dangerous, since it involves violence. But in a month they will forget about her.
    3. In many Russian schools, violence exists in quite Soviet quantities and is in no way connected with TV series. Partly it comes from ethnic communities, partly from prison troubles.
    4. The “problem” of the series is that it - at least at first glance and to the viewer “not in the subject”, for example a teenager - seems more or less honest. While the religion of the Soviet people was and is hypocrisy. Since today's Russia is ruled by 100% Soviet people, they would like to ban everything that is not obvious hypocrisy. Grandfathers have allergies.
    1. +2
      8 December 2023 10: 56
      The Chushpanov game is not much more serious, although it is more dangerous, since it involves violence. But in a month they will forget about her.

      They will repeat it. It's so much fun to bully a classmate with the whole crowd, knowing that you won't get anything for it!!!
      Do you think this will not happen at all? It will be, it will be!!! And the claims should be brought against him, not the producer/director who was prudently set to 18+, and not the state that released this film.
      1. +6
        8 December 2023 11: 38
        Quote: Not the fighter
        Do you think this will not happen at all?

        I wrote exactly the opposite.
        Quote: Negro
        The game of chushpans is not much more serious, although it is also more dangerous, since it involves violence.

        Monkey sees, monkey does. If it is customary to fight in the school/neighborhood, the monkey will begin to use phrases that he heard.

        But if this is not accepted at school/in the area, then watching a series about the youth of their grandfathers will not cause anything like that.

        Let me remind you that the TV series on which the Kazan boys themselves grew up were “17 Moments of Spring”, “The Adventures of Shurik”, etc.
  22. +1
    8 December 2023 10: 12
    Question - what kind of “game” did I just read? How can you write this, turning white onto black/black onto white?
    And the "cherry on the cake" -
    “It may sound pompous, but the success of the drama about the Kazan boys gives us hope that not everything in the enemy’s camp is lost for us, and our common past will in the very near future become a strong foundation for our Victory.”
  23. 0
    8 December 2023 10: 54
    And for potential chushpans - a guide on how to be responsible for your words, hit back, and sometimes be the first when the situation demands it.

    And get problems yourself. How do we feel about self-defense? In addition to the fact that they will further spread rot on you, you will also get it from the teaching staff, the police and other educators.
    And here there are two ways out, or rather one. Suicide, either solo, or take with you the offenders you can reach.
    1. 0
      8 December 2023 20: 03
      "And here there are two options, or rather one. Suicide, or" ///
      ----
      Or move for permanent residence to some other country.
      Where they don’t beat you up just because you’re not from their area.
      The world is big and beautiful, and there are many such countries.
      1. +2
        8 December 2023 20: 52
        Suicide is also a change in the world.
        I know what I'm writing about. The school joke in our class was when I was forced into the girls' locker room before physical training. My arms were bruised. The lesson begins, the gymnast figures out who does what and how. I’m guilty - they say I climbed in myself, that’s what the whole crowd says. My bruised hands are not an argument. Who got it? That's right for me.
        Vovka, you are a bastard, you spread rot on others at school and you boast about it.
        It’s a pity that you didn’t get a bullet in the forehead from those you mocked.
      2. 0
        9 December 2023 15: 19
        The world is big and beautiful, and there are many such countries.

        And they are waiting for us there with open arms, sure enough.
  24. +3
    8 December 2023 11: 24
    This is exactly what I wrote my last article about. It doesn’t matter what the creators of the series wanted to show - the main thing is that they managed to show a stylish image of criminal activity. Like the TV series "Brigade" in its time. The abundance of crime dramas, films about maniacs, the relishing of murder and “cannibalism” within society creates the trashy climate in which we all live, in addition to objective reasons, of course. This is what is called in English the word "Mood".
    As long as we continue to savor degradation, we will be stuck tightly in this very degradation, and if we intensively create the climate of the early 80s in our society, it will be like that, with all these AUEshniks * (*blablabla is prohibited) and girls coming to schools with guns.
    What goes around comes around, it's a very simple principle. Previously, people dumped their feces and waste into rivers from which they then drank. This went on for centuries and there were epidemics, poisonings, etc. After , finally , it dawned on me that we should value the sanitation and ecology of our immediate living environment - and things got a little better. But now such phenomena are returning in the vastness of mass culture - the worst that was repeatedly acquired and savored in all the colors of dirt. We don’t film things that make people dream “good and big”, no...why would that be...

    Sometimes it surprises me that we launched the first man into space. Judging by the observed picture, we are much more interested in how people beat each other’s last brains out with rusty fittings than in something directed upward.
    1. +3
      8 December 2023 13: 29
      I think everything is clear here - the film needs audience success, but they won’t watch films about a happy future, no one will believe in them. So they film what they will watch, “for the needs of the viewer.”

      Our generation dreamed of space and heaven on Earth, but they built what they built. Maybe these will dream of personal yachts and islands, but will build a paradise on Earth for everyone.

      Sorry, I won't see it :)
    2. 0
      8 December 2023 20: 08
      “Sometimes it’s surprising to me that we launched the first man into space” ///
      ----
      It was the chushpans who did this.
      A normal person does not go to a gang, but to an institute or university.
      Hence - space, science, industry.
      Now replace the word “chushpan” with the word “Jew” and it will become clearer to you
      about space. smile
  25. +1
    8 December 2023 13: 24
    Frankly speaking, I don’t really understand why there is such a fuss about the latest series. There have been films with not very “positive” main characters before - our “Brother”, and “Brigade”, and “The Godfather”. There was Chernukha too - “Zhmuriki”, at least.

    Among young people - I have to communicate with young people - opinions are divided, from complete rejection (trash!) to increased interest when they gather in a group specifically to watch the next film.

    I don’t know what will cause more harm to the psyche - a talented film about bandits or a mediocre patriotic film that cannot be watched to the end.

    Perhaps the very appearance of such a film and the interest in it speaks of a certain decline in certain processes in Russia, but, IMHO, I don’t know people who think that we are now on the rise.
    1. +2
      8 December 2023 14: 01
      There is one very unpleasant thing about this phenomenon on which the film is based, but the films you listed do not have it. This thing is called the forced involvement of children in a criminal community. Either you are with us or you are an outcast, a pariah, a body to be beaten. This is the worst thing about the Kazan phenomenon.
      1. +1
        8 December 2023 14: 20
        This is in the film, but this does not mean that this idea should be copied. The rest of the films listed contain murder, robbery, robbery and other crimes - but the movie is not a textbook on crimes.
        1. +1
          8 December 2023 14: 33
          Well, you were a teenager, just like me. I’m right there in time and place. Mid 80s early 90s are my teenage years in Kazan. Teenagers copy everything very much. It is THE WORD (film) that can give impetus to revival, especially since the situation now is very reminiscent of that time.
          1. +3
            8 December 2023 14: 57
            I was a teenager. He copied Indians, sometimes cowboys. :) We watched “Generals of the Sand Quarries” - it didn’t occur to anyone to imitate it.

            It's not the plot of the film that should cause concern, but its success. Not all is well in the Kingdom of Denmark... (c)
            1. +1
              8 December 2023 15: 06
              Lucky. But now there are no films about Indians or cowboys, there is this, which is shot, as they say, masterfully catchy. Why is this film successful? There are no normal people or young people are ready for a new redistribution and a war of all against all.
              1. 0
                8 December 2023 15: 25
                It was also unsafe for us to enter a “strange” area; sometimes a crowd would come to our area and beat everyone in a row - but not because of money, they didn’t take the money. For the honor of the region, probably :)
                No one imitated anyone, that was the way it was.
                It’s difficult to make an interesting film for young people, especially if it teaches something good, especially when it’s not clear what good is :)
                1. 0
                  8 December 2023 15: 30
                  Well, with good things now everything is simple - I will teach you to love the street. They didn’t imitate, they just pulled by force, there was no such thing, you have your own party, we have our own. Or it wasn't.
              2. 0
                8 December 2023 15: 38
                Why is this film successful?

                Society has an interest in “involvement,” but at the same time, involvement in state movements has discredited itself for many. All these a la youth riots like “Nashi” and in general the policy of involving young people has not exactly failed, rather there is an idea in the information field that all this is nonsense and a simulation.
                You can involve people with something good - encourage them to dream about space or adventure or time travel, or you can involve them in epic showdowns with sickles and batogs between the collective farm "Red Hammer" and the village "Malye Chekushki".
                After all, trash can also be very juicy and effective, just like a high-quality product. The difference is that trash can be created from available materials and does not require much thought. People don't need a big reason to kill each other or just punch each other, but it can be done very well. effective for the average person who thirsts for passion from idleness.
                1. +3
                  8 December 2023 20: 05
                  I agree with you, evil can be very attractive, but until you encounter it yourself. Take the same glamorous Twilight, vampires are so beautiful and human until you feed on them. Here I came across the same thing and therefore, like gold dust, I see and will see the essence of these scum.
  26. BAI
    +3
    8 December 2023 13: 27
    Project by Zhora Kryzhovnikov

    Director - Zhora. I immediately had to write a criminal case. The bandits started a new recruitment campaign a la "Brigade". And no one (in power) gives a damn. The stubbornness of our government is amazing. They don't learn anything.
  27. +8
    8 December 2023 14: 08
    The hype is worth it. I decided to watch it and inquired about the cast. I realized that I wouldn’t watch it at all.

    However, the idea is interesting and can be continued with sequels: “The Voter’s Word”, “The Shareholder’s Word”, “The Deputy’s Word”, etc.
  28. 0
    8 December 2023 15: 10
    Honest cinema. I myself took my father’s belt with a badge to the showdown between Hudson and Malina. And it was better not to go to Popedy Park with Kupchino. Leningrad-80 e. Childhood - Where did you go))
    1. 0
      9 December 2023 14: 14
      Are there any Leningraders left? Make as many as you can. It was. There is. And I wish it weren’t.
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  29. -3
    8 December 2023 15: 27
    In any society at all times, all trash must be kept firmly in check. Alexander 3 said: “a peasant needs a Tsar and a whip.”

    The experience of the USSR showed that it cannot maintain itself. He will plunder the country.

    Therefore, a small ruling layer is needed. The nobility was expelled in 1917 and we will assume that it was impossible otherwise....

    For now, the ruling layer is being formed “from what was” and learning. When he learns, and if at least something remains of Russia by this time, it will continue to exist.
  30. +7
    8 December 2023 15: 44
    Ugly, vile movie....I don’t even want to discuss it. The main thing is on time. when it’s already difficult for our country.... Even Bandera’s members of the Ukrainian Reich raised a cry about ideological sabotage on the part of Russia, referring to this “work.” And the author of the article is either a complete loser or an enemy of our country! I'm afraid for the future of our children and grandchildren if they continue to promote such dirt.....
    1. 0
      8 December 2023 16: 40
      Well, to discuss it, you have to at least watch it. I have no doubt that you didn’t watch it.
    2. 0
      9 December 2023 14: 28
      Without any complaints. Where did you grow up?
  31. +4
    8 December 2023 16: 18
    Our society is sick. The problem is not the films, but the reaction. Timur and his team or the Young Guard are not causing a stir. Everyone wants to be a bandit and become a deputy. Commendable. A bright future is on the horizon
  32. +3
    8 December 2023 16: 42
    Just disgusting power! First they mumble about upbringing, patriotism, having many children, self-consciousness, etc., and then they allow this to happen on air.... It’s just an abomination!
  33. +4
    8 December 2023 16: 52
    What kind of government and cinema is this? If bandit elements have been in power for more than 30 years, then what can we expect? I’m not even surprised that the rotten cheers “patriot” under the pseudonym Evgeniy Fedorov, on the pages of VO, talks about the great thieves’ romance, confusing the times of the USSR with the 90s... Now we need a society that will not go against the ruling UPG, which is what this series instills with only one thought - “don’t go against the UPG, they will destroy you”
  34. +8
    8 December 2023 17: 49
    I watched the series and will watch it again (it was filmed well). But to be honest, the film is extremely inappropriate now. Young people have emptiness in their heads and they themselves are looking for something to fill it with, and I have no doubt that this film will help them with this filling. This is a movie for adults, but children will watch it. Isn’t there something to film about in these difficult times? And for those who categorically declare - “there was no such thing, I have not met”, your life experience is not comprehensive, you can study the history of the issue, there are plenty of materials.
  35. -3
    8 December 2023 18: 11
    Tell me what is better to watch, the boy’s word or the brigade
    Look better at the welding
  36. +6
    8 December 2023 18: 33
    My God! What a mess the author has in his head!
    Quote
    “As a result, if we consider the series as “ideological sabotage,” then with the same success we should ban “Brigada,” “Brother,” “Boomer” and the like. “Gangster Petersburg” will be the first to go under the knife as a trendsetter of the genre, and with it and foreign gangster sagas."
    Well, you have to think of combining such different works. The author, if he looked, apparently did not understand anything from what he saw.
    How can one even include “Gangster Petersburg” in this company? The series is not so much about bandits, but about human destinies, with clear morals, what is good and what is bad.
    But, for example, the series “Brigada” is a story about bandits and there is no morality in it.
    Some kind of ordered advertising for this new, completely unnecessary, at least at this time, film. There is no ideology in the country, only vague attempts to form one. And into this vacuum of teenage minds they splash out such seductive but destructive behavior.
  37. +13
    8 December 2023 18: 33
    I studied in Kazan in 83-87. And these Kazan gangs are a really bad thing. There was no romance there, but criminality. Extortion, robbery, broken jaws and fates. And everything is very disgusting. And the complete inability of the authorities to cope. It was scary.
  38. +2
    8 December 2023 18: 43
    Yes, such phenomena happened in every provincial town. Gangs of teenagers, divided into areas, into groups, beat each other's faces and the first one who turned up. I myself was involved in this in my youth. And none of the organizers and active participants of these shobbles ended up with anything good. Those who did not stop in time or who were not stopped fell onto the bunks. Well, further down the slope. It’s good that I went to school and the barracks situation took the crap out of my head. And now there’s a series about this? No more heroes? You will raise Gopniks on it. Haven't you come up with anything worse yet?
  39. +2
    8 December 2023 18: 55
    As a result, if we consider the series as “ideological sabotage,” then “Brigada,” “Brother,” “Boomer” and the like should just as easily be banned. “Gangster Petersburg” will be the first to go under the knife as a trendsetter of the genre, and with it foreign gangster sagas.

    Author, you are being ironic in vain. Because that's exactly what should be done. Drawing this crap onto the screen and savoring the mythical thieves’ romance and nonsense about “loyalty to the lads and common values” is not a good thing. Because even in the movies they are not all romantic heroes, but real scoundrels, and in reality all this was not beautiful romance, but dirt, horror, lawlessness, crime, chaos and terrible dark times for ordinary peaceful people who were forced to exist next to these non-humans.
  40. +2
    8 December 2023 19: 39
    The article is similar to a comparative advertisement of modern Russia before the late USSR. It was probably timed for the elections.
  41. 0
    8 December 2023 20: 42
    It all started with the Tyap-Lyap gang, born in the slums of Kazan.
    Well, let’s say it’s still not exactly in the slums, but that’s not the main thing. The author wanted to give readers something positive, but what happened was a substitution of concepts with false pathos to boot...
  42. +6
    8 December 2023 21: 22
    We're done! I'm laughing... I can't!! laughing The origin of the word boy! The short word “pots” is the most common curse word among Jews in Eastern Europe. From Yiddish it is translated as “male organ.” Accordingly, the word “pocen” (which later became “boy”) means an underdeveloped reproductive organ. Thanks to the Odessa thieves, this term allegedly spread throughout the criminal world of the young USSR: this is how young, inexperienced thieves and street children began to be called in the criminal environment. Most linguists are inclined towards this version... That is, the real name of the series discussed here is, The Word of the Underdeveloped Member, laughing laughing
  43. +4
    8 December 2023 22: 03
    I was hung up with an interview, with the director he is not many years old
    On what basis did you make your movie?
    Well, I watched old films, read the Ogonyok magazine of that time
    This is the same freak from TNT with the Armenian Martersyan with wretched movies where they slander the Russian people like Gorko, Gorko 2 or whatever this movie is called about a wedding
  44. +1
    9 December 2023 08: 26
    The conclusion is simple - if teenagers had managed to be occupied with a correct, honest and interesting idea, no one would have set their sights on “The Boy’s Word”.
    Yeah. And what idea?)
  45. 0
    9 December 2023 08: 53
    Despite the fact that Kryzhovnikov wisely assigned the film an 18+ category, they still tried to ban it.

    What kind of punitive body do we have that engages in such censorship? Just wondering, I thought that if available theseyour internets and it’s already impossible to ban anything, but come on, they wanted to ban it. Maybe they just wanted to report on what they successfully banned?
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    1. +1
      9 December 2023 13: 06
      But on the contrary, I like that now young people are not interested in each other’s questions “who are you in life?” Now the appearance of a teenager is no longer a reason to be considered a crowd. And this is very good.
  47. +1
    9 December 2023 13: 16
    This series has only increased crime in schools so far.
  48. -1
    9 December 2023 14: 53
    The series is like a series. In every series they kill and shoot. There is nothing criminal about it. Most teenagers don't watch this. There will definitely not be a “Brigade” effect. Times are completely different. But if there is reason to believe that some people are trying to use it to educate young people in this way, then we need to hit them on the head. And unravel the whole tangle. Who, why, for what purposes. Look for, so to speak, malicious intent.
  49. 0
    9 December 2023 15: 26
    Ordinary tribalism. “This has already happened, my glorious Arata” (c)
  50. 0
    9 December 2023 21: 04
    I just watched the first episode as a specialist, ordinary life, the series is basically good, much better than the blind man's buff brigade, but worse than the zone)))
  51. 0
    9 December 2023 21: 12
    Yes, that’s how the whole country lived in those years... All cities are divided into districts and groups.
    Their fates are different; there are those who have now turned into legal entrepreneurs.
  52. 0
    9 December 2023 23: 01
    Quote: ROSS 42
    I couldn't resist passing by your comment. It’s very good that this was the first review.
    Actually, there is nothing to add to this, except to say that after the death of LIB, consciousness changed massively in the country. People began to see life this way. as it is, and not as it was taught at school and from TV screens. It was at this time that the first delights of the grin of capitalism entered life. It was then that “highly ideological” leaders who went through criminal school were found. It was then that they began to prepare their shift.
    The film is disgusting and causes nothing but disgust. Another “masterpiece” of the cult of thieves’ ideology.
    Quote: Andrey Moskvin
    And who should be idealized if there is no ideology? Not steelworkers and grain growers.

    But there is no need to humiliate working people. And the word of a thief differs from the word of a working man in that there is nothing behind it except artificially created rules for the humiliation of honest people.
    Soviet youth had enough romance even without the street. Unlike today, cities had FREE sports sections and hobby groups. There was also an honorable duty to defend the Motherland. And a guy who did not serve in the army was looked at as a leper, and in the villages girls did not want to marry such people.
    * * *
    I won’t idealize the Soviet system, but I won’t dirty it with greasy hands and thieves’ notions either.

    Well, yes, of course it’s easier and more fun to draw a beautiful picture of an ideal Soviet life))) But the fact that working people and visitors to circles for the most part were in courtyard and district offices is of course an impossible thing, boo-ha-ha) But one of my fellow travelers is a colonel in In retirement he said that he was fabulously lucky to enroll in the military because otherwise he would most likely have been imprisoned because in their Zazhopinsk there were two paths - khabza and military commissar because there was not enough knowledge for civilian universities, studying was not in fashion, but it was in fashion to be a criminal , it means he was sitting, his boy, etc. Another acquaintance laughed at the fact that in the late 90s they could cheat people in someone else’s area; he said that in the 60s punks could even get screwed. And this does not mean that these same punks did not attend the section’s clubs. Children and young people are generally designed to look for more adventures on their ass. I know my peers who got a kick out of taking off a passerby’s jacket, as a result, some wised up and live normally, others went the thieves’ route and some became drunk and many are no longer alive, by the way, one Jewish friend was a well-known lawbreaker in the area and now in the USA he is an exemplary family man and businessman. So the film is true, although you can’t call it useful, judging by reports from various youth TV channels, there has been a sharp increase in massacres on the streets, but maybe the dark-skinned children of the new citizens will be afraid to set their own rules)
  53. +2
    9 December 2023 23: 10
    Quote: MONEY
    We're done! I'm laughing... I can't!! laughing The origin of the word boy! The short word “pots” is the most common curse word among Jews in Eastern Europe. From Yiddish it is translated as “male organ.” Accordingly, the word “pocen” (which later became “boy”) means an underdeveloped reproductive organ. Thanks to the Odessa thieves, this term allegedly spread throughout the criminal world of the young USSR: this is how young, inexperienced thieves and street children began to be called in the criminal environment. Most linguists are inclined towards this version... That is, the real name of the series discussed here is, The Word of the Underdeveloped Member, laughing laughing

    The word hacker used to mean a loser programmer, so what? Now a boy is a boy and no one cares what it meant 100 years ago)
  54. -1
    9 December 2023 23: 41
    Anyone who sees in the Word a sabotage against the state is deeply mistaken. The state is now correcting what it voluntarily and unwittingly allowed to happen in the past years. Increasing living standards, prospects for young people (not to the highest echelons, where the rulers have their own children, but to a decent life for themselves and their offspring), the Internet instead of gateways for teenagers, a disciplined one-year army, a working police force. Yes, everything is far from ideal, it doesn’t always and doesn’t work everywhere, entire regions live like in the 90s (and some like in the 1890s), but “on average in the ward” life has become easier and more humane. And then it turned out that the poor and wild young people of the late 80s and 90s went to war without enthusiasm, but the current one (much more prosperous even in the regions) does not want to. Propaganda tried to shift everything to “IT specialists and designers”, “heroes of Upper Lars”, but even a million fugitives (of which only some were men of military age, and the rest were their wives and children) would not have created significant problems with recruiting the army. The real problem is those millions who could not escape or did not want to, but were mobilized by all means. And this is a large part of the middle class, and a significant part of the working class. They are too accustomed to a good life, they think too much about the future, they do not want to leave their children orphans and their wives widows. The state is much more profitable for guys with the mentality “well, I’m for the boys, but if they kill you tomorrow, I didn’t live today.” So “The Boy’s Word” is a patriotic film and stop criticizing it.
    1. 0
      10 December 2023 08: 23
      Quote: Yaroslav Tekkel
      And then it turned out that the poor and wild young people of the late 80s and 90s went to war without enthusiasm, but the current one (much more prosperous even in the regions) does not want to.

      And therefore the plan to increase the number of contract soldiers has been exceeded?
  55. -2
    10 December 2023 00: 40
    In general, this product does not have any artistic value.
    And this is not my opinion - but the opinion of Kolobok, Daria Mitina, an experienced film critic, ethnologist, politician, member of the defense industry.
    Well, personally, I think that this series is simply harmful for young people.
  56. +1
    10 December 2023 12: 34
    I would like to ask a question, who writes here, and have you watched 6 out of 8 episodes? Two still haven't come out yet.
    You need to look and then draw conclusions, rant over the author’s words.
  57. +1
    10 December 2023 18: 26
    Such series do more harm than good. I grew up in such an environment. And it was not she who shaped future heroes. Ordinary people are fighting. Workers and peasants and the working intelligentsia. Everything is as usual. The fact that the Americans and our “liberals” banned ideology is a fact. They knew what they were doing. And now the questions are: who are the customers for this series, who gave the money, who pushed it onto the screen. It is not so harmless; after watching it, two murders have already been committed by teenagers of the same age. What happens next, some of our officials will be in the position of an ostrich
    1. 0
      10 December 2023 18: 41
      Officials. These mediocrities in the Federation Council have been thinking for 3 years about how to ban broadcasts where they mock people, they seemed to have decided something, more than I’m sure, they were making up nonsense
  58. 0
    10 December 2023 23: 49
    But this is an indicator... This is what is interesting and exciting - despite any efforts of those who are eating up the state budget!
  59. -1
    11 December 2023 10: 53
    There is nothing good about this series. Youth gangs of the 80s are an ugly regurgitation of the dying USSR, of course, you need to know the pages of your history, but to release a whole series about it - well, I don’t know, but if today’s teenagers copy it, and even in an ugly form, it will turn out to give an impetus to violence ? Now there is a massive attack on Russia from the outside, it is necessary to protect peace and tranquility within the country, and not to extract abscesses from the Soviet past.
  60. +2
    12 December 2023 08: 56
    Another masterpiece with the message to rejoice in the hard times that have passed not so long ago and to direct young people into the mainstream of criminality (oh, how right they are in the film, so what, the bandits - I anticipate remarks from the camp of film fans. Oh how well shown) You can film anything with talent anything and with the right message, even about the usefulness of cannibalism. The youth of Putin’s first parental capital begins to enter into life, and where it goes depends on this. But here’s a movie promoting banditry, don’t you want to go there? There’s no need to work there. It feels like the moment for the film was very specially chosen. Again, there are no films about the prestige and usefulness of the same plumber or cashier, but young people don’t watch Soviet ones, and without a conditional plumber or tractor driver in the village, no one will survive because there will be nowhere to eat until the wind blows. The country needs a healthy generation, but they are again driving them into the romance of thieves. There will be no development this way. And who benefits?
  61. +1
    12 December 2023 10: 35
    The series is interesting, guys, we were there where the Motherland sent us and we were sick and sick with only illnesses. For our Soviet Motherland! Hooray!
  62. +1
    12 December 2023 13: 09
    As one of the critics rightly noted, for a considerable part of the guys of the 70s and 80s the word “boy” was transformed in the officer's word.

    Author, didn’t you go crazy with your furious attack? good Also equate the word of a thief with the word of an officer. Have you watched the film yourself? "The boy's word is only for boys!" (c)
  63. 0
    13 December 2023 02: 58
    After the film "Solo Voyage" everyone dreamed of serving in the Marine Corps, after the film "Retaliation", "In the Zone of Special Attention" everyone dreamed of serving in the landing force. After this series, what would a young man, a teenager, want to do?? After the film “Scarlet the Border Dog” I dreamed of getting to the border, I strived for this, running, sambo. Served at the Iranian, KSAPO, Shamli outpost. The series is harmful. You can’t let go of your hands and show this to children. Only when he grows up. How not to live. It’s difficult to make “The Big Bang Theory”, or “Friends”, but this is easy, it’s lying under your feet like dog poop. I consider this a sabotage against our youth and against all of us. All we need is an explosion of youth crime in a country that, by the way, is at war.
  64. 0
    17 December 2023 15: 08
    Recently there has been euphoria over the Korean "Squid Game" the notorious “PMC Redan” grew from there»


    PMC Redan is a fake from beginning to end, invented and dispersed by the liberal media. I didn’t read further into the post; if there is such a gross mistake, then there will be a bunch of them further.

    As one of the critics rightly noted, for a considerable part of the guys in the 70s and 80s, the word “boy” was transformed into the word “officer”.


    As I said. I won’t even comment on anything and, for example, mention that even just serving in the army is not according to the concept.