Russia revives nuclear submarine fleet ("World Politics Review", USA)

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January 10, the combat structure of the Russian North fleet a new generation nuclear submarine equipped with Bulava ballistic missiles officially entered.

This first class submarine "Borey", called "Yuri Dolgoruky", was built at the shipbuilding enterprise "Sevmash" from 1996 to 2008 year. Initially, they wanted to equip the missile submarine cruiser with much larger Bark missiles. However, problems with the development of this rocket forced the Russian government to abandon it and give preference to a smaller rocket called Bulava. As a result, Russian shipbuilders had to rework the entire project of Borei-class boats to accommodate new missiles there, and this had to be done before the Bulava moved from the drawing boards to the production plant.

The Russian military wants the Borey-Bulava combination to become the naval basis of the Russian nuclear triad until at least the 2040s. The costs of research, design and development work to create this new combination of boats and missiles have become perhaps the largest for the Russian military budget in recent years. According to estimates, at some point, work on creating the Borey-Bulava complex was “eaten up” by more than a third of the Russian defense budget. The government has allocated 132 billion dollars to build a large number of new submarines and other warships by 2020.

Huge expenses speak of the importance of the Borey-Bulava systems for the Russian political leadership. Speaking at the ceremony of introducing "Yuri Dolgoruky" into the fleet, President Vladimir Putin boasted: "The Yuri Dolgoruky" is a new generation nuclear-launch vehicle. Boats of this class will become an essential element of the naval component of the Russian strategic forces, the guarantor of the global balance, the security of Russia and its allies. "

The Borey-class submarines in the 130 crew are people. They are equipped with modern sonar and navigation equipment, advanced communication systems and fire control, and have the characteristics of stealthiness of the fourth generation. The length of each boat is 185 feet, the width of 15 feet, the depth to 500 feet, and the submerged speed of 29 nodes.

The first three Borey-class submarines will carry the Bulava P-16 30 missiles and six cruise missiles each. The second missile carrier of this class, the Alexander Nevsky, is currently undergoing sea trials, and the third, called the Vladimir Monomakh, was taken out of the workshop at the end of last year for launching.

On the next boat class "Borey" will be on 20, and not on 16 Bulava missiles. The first submarine of this upgraded Borey-A class, Prince Vladimir, was laid in July 2012. Construction of the fifth boat of this series, "Alexander Suvorov" will begin in July 2013, and the sixth, named "Mikhail Kutuzov", will be laid before the end of this year. The Russian fleet intends to get two more Borey-A class submarine cruisers by the year 2020. In total, the eight submarines of the Borey and Borey-A classes will have 148 Bulava missiles.

The Bulava is one of the few large Russian missile systems developed after the collapse of the Soviet Union. The split head of the rocket can carry 10 warheads of individual guidance in nuclear equipment, each of which has a 100-150 kiloton power. The maximum range of the rocket - 8000 kilometers. On paper, Bulava has a modern enemy missile defense system and is highly manoeuvrable, has a powerful solid-fuel engine, small size, light weight, high speed and other characteristics that turn it into a deterrent that surpasses all other systems from the Russian sea-based ballistic missile arsenal. .

However, the Bulava during the tests has shown itself to be more or less successful only in recent years, and this has allowed the Russian leaders to proceed with its installation with a fair degree of confidence. Initially, the rocket was planned to be adopted in the 2006 year, but the terrible performance of the Bulava during the tests led to the fact that it remained on paper until December 2011. And only two successful launches formally completed its test program. And before that, almost half of the rocket test launches were unsuccessful, and failures were sometimes overwhelming. Constant delays damaged the reputation of the Russian defense industry at the very moment when the authorities again began to talk about Russia as a great power.

The problems of the Bulava were the result of two main factors. The first is that the Russian government decided to transfer the contract to the wrong project organization, and then followed its wrong recommendations. The second is the remaining shortcomings of the Russian military-industrial complex, especially the problems of production, quality control and system integration. In particular, the inability to effectively coordinate the activities of dozens of independent subcontractors participating in the program has become an important reason for the failure of Bulava.

However, the Russian government considered that the missile should be completed, because it was designed for Borei-class submarines, and this is the only new strategic submarine built in Russia.

The Russian Navy was eagerly awaiting these submarines, since the nuclear-powered missile carriers, which are contained in it, are every single Soviet-built, and they were created before the 1990 year. These submarines are equipped with new ballistic missiles and other components, but their technical and operational resources have long been developed. As a result, it turns out that only a few of the Russian nuclear submarines are in constant readiness, while the rest of the vessels are being renovated, upgraded, or used for crew training.

In February last year, the commander-in-chief of the Russian Navy, Admiral Vladimir Vysotsky, announced that the Russian nuclear submarines would resume regular campaigns with the aim of patrolling and deterring when Yuri Dolgoruky joined the fleet. Such a change in deployment plans means that at least one Russian strategic submarine will be at sea all the time. In the past decade, the country's submarine fleet patrolled only intermittently, and the breaks between hikes were long. If during the Cold War, the Soviet Navy carried out several hundred military campaigns a year, then last year the Russian fleet managed to hold only five such exits.

Although the Russian designers were finally able to make the Borey-Mace combination work, this success may be the exception to the rule. The Russian government has allocated huge funds for this major project, and cannot make similar efforts in the field of building all other weapons systems. For example, the Russian leadership had to repeatedly announce delays in the construction of new aircraft carriers. Russian defense companies, which have not yet fully recovered from the painful collapse of the Soviet military-industrial complex, are still unable to create such sophisticated weapons systems in a timely manner.

The primary attention that Russian leaders are paying to Borei-class submarines and the Bulava missiles indicates their determination to preserve for Russia the status of a great power with the potential for deterring a nuclear missile attack from the United States. Although such an attack will never happen under any circumstances, the revival of the Russian strategic nuclear deterrent forces can have a positive impact on relations between the two countries, reducing the Russian outrage over the US missile defense and eliminating other sources of tension in relations between Russia and America.
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  1. +17
    18 January 2013 15: 16
    Still here such as right))

    1. +3
      18 January 2013 15: 36
      Quote: klimpopov

      Still here such as right))

      Hi Klim, we have three of them, sort of, but where are they?
      1. 0
        18 January 2013 21: 32
        This "thing" is called Shark [/ u] ...
      2. rolik
        +1
        18 January 2013 23: 17
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        and where are they standing?

        Dmitry Donskoy is a testing platform for Pin, we have a frequent visitor in Severodvinsk))). Two other "batons" (Arkhangelsk and Severstal) are standing at the wall. Their fate has not yet been determined.
        1. -1
          18 January 2013 23: 31
          if you don’t know how the ships are called and it’s not worth writing amateur !!!!!!!! (loaves) this is 949a !! and this (sharks) 941 project !!!!!!!
          1. rolik
            +1
            19 January 2013 00: 41
            sanek45744,
            Now listen carefully, buddy. The word "Baton" did not come from the project number, but from the appearance of the boat. In section, it resembles a loaf, the shape of an ellipse. Working at Sevmash, we have seen a lot of such "completely smart" ones. Now "completely smart", please explain why the boat has two names. One is Shark, the other is Typhoon. Maybe you will find where, the Internet is big. And I did not set a minus, such a bar ... to put it, do not respect yourself.
            1. -1
              19 January 2013 03: 41
              By the way, this huckster is the one who smuggles drugs, how did you define him? The police have been searching for them for months.
              1. rolik
                +1
                19 January 2013 22: 17
                Quote: Alexander Petrovich
                By the way, this huckster is the one who delivers drugs

                And where does the huckster ???? Ignoramus, usually called rams.
            2. +1
              19 January 2013 05: 21
              you know, I always knew that Pomors were a little bit of that)))) I see you are also an employee not important !!! loaves are 949a project! but I don’t need the Internet at the expense of sharks and typhoons! I already know! shark is our designation and typhoon if the memory doesn’t change that NATO! and after the dock, my friend is in your pants !!!!!! since you really love to be rude !!!!
              1. rolik
                +1
                19 January 2013 22: 57
                Quote: sanek45744
                You know, I always knew that Pomors

                The Pomors are one of the most adequate comrades in the north. In contrast to some representatives, without family and without tribe, "completely smart" with claims of genius. Although an incomplete average is visible a mile away. Okay, let's continue the KMB.
                And tell me an amateur, what name did Comrade Brezhnev give to this project: Shark or Typhoon ???? Baton this unofficial name appeared after the appearance of boats with an ellipse hull (by the way, the project was originally called an ellipse) and of such dimensions, project 949A is called Antey, and project 949 is Granite, and there were also clamshells.
            3. 0
              20 January 2013 20: 33
              One is Shark, the second is Typhoon.

              Our first, second from Nato ...
              1. rolik
                0
                21 January 2013 14: 30
                Quote: PSih2097
                Our first, second from Nato ...

                A bit wrong. The shark is the project of the boat itself, Typhoon is the name of the complex as a whole (boat + missiles). The double name, namely Typhoon, was given to the project by Leonid Ilyich, in order to mislead American friends. Well, the Aamers adopted the name ... which they took to knock money out of Congress to eliminate this threat. Typhoon, sounds worse for them, almost like a tornado))))
    2. InkGrey
      +16
      18 January 2013 16: 20
      Honestly, Sharks are so big and beautiful, because before they couldn’t make rockets more compact. So their century has passed, it's time to hope for something more modern;)
      1. +8
        18 January 2013 16: 22
        Undoubtedly. But impressive agree.
        1. Good Ukraine
          +6
          18 January 2013 17: 50
          laughing
          Each boat is 185 feet long, 15 feet wide, and diving depths up to 500 feet.


          What boat does he describe?
          Length 56 m., Width 4.5 m., Depth of immersion 150 m.
          And then everyone compares with their own people and thinks, "What have the dense Russians tuned in there again?"
      2. +2
        18 January 2013 17: 08
        Honestly, Sharks are so big and beautiful, because before they couldn’t make rockets more compact.

        Previously, they knew how to make missile systems, just missiles for the Shark were very large, so I had to come up with this unique scheme of an underwater catamaran.
      3. 0
        18 January 2013 19: 15
        Ahead of the comment wink
      4. +1
        18 January 2013 20: 00
        They could do that better than now. Ignorance of why and why these boats are of this size does not allow you to tarnish the creators and builders of "Sharks". This type of boats was built specifically for a specific missile, of which there are 20 in the hull, each carrying 10 warheads, the weight of each missile is almost 100 tons (it is somewhat akin to Satan). Project "Sharks" is unique - it is a catamaran type boat, that is, it has two hulls in one. Nobody has ever been able to and will never do that. They are being written off on the sly due to the fact that there are practically no missiles for these boats.
        1. rolik
          +1
          18 January 2013 23: 24
          Quote: starshina78
          virtually no missiles for these boats

          All right. True, there were proposals to make submarines from boats, to transport 10000 tons of ore under the ice. They also wanted to resume their military exploitation, to put cannons for cruise missiles in the mines. And what will happen in reality, no one knows. But such boats really can only be done by us, the mattresses have a small intestine. The Chinese have no such technologies and they will not be sooooo long.
        2. 0
          19 January 2013 03: 03
          Quote: starshina78
          They write off them slowly due to the fact that there are practically no rockets for these boats.


          They are not written off, but mothballed and, according to rumors, they are going to upgrade them either with a mace or with some other type of missile.
    3. +6
      18 January 2013 17: 04
      Handsome :)
      By the way, an unusually adequate article, which is the most surprising from the pen of an American journalist ..... is even somehow strange ....
      Usually in such articles, Vladimir Putin cooks babies in boiling oil and drinks the blood of innocent girls ..... and in between the first and second he carries out the savage executions of oppositionists.
      All the holiday drinks
      1. 0
        18 January 2013 18: 19
        Happy Holiday! He eats babies rather, although no babies Stalin ate. Well, in short, everyone understood everything ...
      2. +5
        18 January 2013 18: 51
        I don’t agree fundamentally, they invented Putin as a horror story themselves, and even though they didn’t talk about him after reading this article, I had a residue. The article is written in such a way as to belittle our successes and declare them unnecessary (like whatever the child does not amuse himself, just not to cry). They are trying to make us believe that we do not need it. "The priority that Russian leaders are giving to Borey-class submarines and Bulava missiles, speaks of their determination to maintain for Russia the status of a great power with the potential to deter a nuclear missile attack by the United States. Although such an attack will never occur under any circumstances, The revival of Russian strategic nuclear deterrent forces could have a positive impact on relations between the two countries, lowering the level of Russian resentment over the American missile defense and eliminating other sources of tension in the relationship between Russia and America. "As the saying goes, if the atator is so confident in their (US) peacefulness here let him advise his armed forces to disarm.
    4. Don
      0
      19 January 2013 12: 16
      Quote: klimpopov
      Still here such as right))

      Boreas are better. The shark is already obsolete. But Dmitry Donskoy is still in service.
  2. +5
    18 January 2013 15: 18
    And what remains for Russia to do in response to an ever-growing threat around the world
  3. djon3volta
    +9
    18 January 2013 15: 22
    SHARK
    these are the little ones)))
  4. +4
    18 January 2013 15: 23
    The article definitely pleased, if the amers started talking like that ......
    1. SSR
      +2
      18 January 2013 16: 01
      Quote: Grey68
      The article definitely pleased, if the amers started talking like that.

      og I specifically specifically after reading who looked the author (usually do not look)
      Posted by Richard Weitz
  5. +1
    18 January 2013 15: 28
    Another review article http://barentsobserver.com/en/bezopasnost/2013/01/novoe-yadernoe-vooruzhenie-na-
    kolskom-poluostrove-10-01
  6. +6
    18 January 2013 15: 29
    Well! Our overseas "friends" have 3 more specific problems !!! But I will repeat from time to time: RETURN THE SHARKS TO THE STORY !!!!
    1. Kapitanyuk
      +2
      18 January 2013 18: 05
      "Sharks" are outdated, R-39s are outdated, plus everything, it is fabulously expensive to maintain such a couple, and if they are also kept together with "Boreas", then it will be idiocy. Our leadership is doing everything right, we need unification of the types of submarines and missiles for them, as in the US Navy. It will be more practical.
      1. ansimov
        0
        18 January 2013 22: 19
        Aren't the Borei supposed to replace the Sharks?
        1. Kapitanyuk
          0
          18 January 2013 22: 22
          Exactly what, for the reasons I have named. It's just that people here want “Sharks” with “Boreas” to stay, which is nonsense.
  7. djon3volta
    +4
    18 January 2013 15: 30
    The separable warhead of the missile can carry 10 individual warhead warheads in nuclear equipment, each with a capacity of 100-150 kilotons.

    for comparison, bombs of 12 kilotons were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and in BULAVA 10 blocks (bombs) of 100-150 kilotons each, and imagine what would happen to London, for example, if at least 1 block falls into 100-150 kilotons , and the remaining 9 blocks to the rest of the cities of England, just imagine, cool? and 15 more missiles will remain in the boat ... wassat
    1. +20
      18 January 2013 15: 41
      Quote: djon3volta
      e, what will happen for example with London if at least 1 block of 100-150 kilotons falls there,

      I think Queen Elizabeth will begin her period again belay
      1. +4
        18 January 2013 16: 43
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        I think Queen Elizabeth will begin her period again

        Sasha, and not only, it is possible that she will become pregnant laughing
        1. 0
          18 January 2013 18: 30
          The question is only from whom?
      2. 0
        18 January 2013 18: 30
        What can I say about menstruation ?! :))))))
    2. +9
      18 January 2013 16: 17
      Don't go crazy, or have you already outlived yours? Let the children live, do not drop these blocks anywhere
      1. +3
        18 January 2013 18: 31
        It is clear that there are no sadists here (I hope). It’s just such a black humor. White conscience does not allow them!
    3. Windbreak
      0
      18 January 2013 18: 29
      100 kilotons is not enough for a city with an area of ​​1706,8 km²
      1. +3
        18 January 2013 19: 58
        Quote: Burel
        100 kilotons is not enough

        Add a little black humor - do not forget that treating those who survive is much more expensive than burying with a bulldozer what remains of the rest am wassat
      2. +1
        18 January 2013 23: 30
        Those who have seen the rather old film "Threads" will understand that the first wave is followed by the second, which finishes what the first did not finish. Ce-la-vie: duplication.
        1. 0
          19 January 2013 03: 10
          By the way, at the expense of nuclear weapons, I recently came across an interesting fact, I would never have guessed about it, but the dense urban development with high-rise buildings damps the blast wave well, unlike the one-story individual, used mainly in Western countries ...
  8. +2
    18 January 2013 15: 35
    Good news is a pleasure to read even several times. Especially against the background of yesterday’s article that the US Navy is ready to curtail military exercises and return to base.
  9. Krasnoyarsk
    +7
    18 January 2013 15: 37
    Sharks will not be modernized, it is expensive, plus the modernization costs as much as half of the Boreus, so they would be preserved as museums .......
  10. +2
    18 January 2013 15: 58
    Citizens of the bourgeoisie started to wonder soon they would fall into hysterics when the boats began to carry out constant combat duty in the oceans am
  11. Nechai
    +6
    18 January 2013 15: 59
    Quote: PROXOR
    SHARKS RETURN TO STORY !!!!

    Quote: djon3volta
    imagine what will happen to London, for example, if at least 1 block of 100-150 kilotons falls there, and the remaining 9 blocks go to the rest of the cities of England

    The go-ahead for the destruction of our nuclear submarines and "Sharks", in particular, was given during the visit of the Gorbachev couple to the base of the Severomors. / This is not fiction and gossip, there was such a report on the "Vremya" program / The following happened literally:
    M.S. and R.M. The Gorbachevs boarded the submarine and listened to the report of the ship's commander. And Raisa Maksimovna, right there, under the eyes of the TV cameras and the accompanying company, asks the Kamandir - What can your ship do? He hesitated a little - publicly about the possibilities and tasks? This is "sov.secretno" !!! But in response he gave her - "With a salvo of your missiles, wipe Great Britain from the map of the World." Raisa Maksimovna, not bothering the kamandir with gratitude for the answer to her question, turns immediately to her husband - "Misha! Why do we need such ships? We DO NOT NEED such ships !!!" Alles ... Curtain .. End of reportage. And the "cart" of information strike on our submarine, and the surface fleet, as well as on the Army as a whole, started a "hit" ...
    When they say that there was panic in the Kremlin, after the "dive" of the American shuttle over Moscow, they shyly keep silent that the panic emanated from the "better" half "of Mikhal Sergeevich, whom she turned as she wanted. Suffice it to say that after her passing away and he began to advertise sausages and practically disappeared from the political scene ...
    1. Vespasian
      +2
      18 January 2013 16: 25
      Even amers paid for the disposal of such beauties as "SHARK", and these comrades have long loved the Russian fleet. You give modernization for new missiles, angry It remains to say they are only two but what !!!
      1. 0
        20 January 2013 20: 36
        It remains to say they are only two but what !!!

        THREE...
  12. +4
    18 January 2013 16: 09
    It's nice to hear that from an American. But, apparently, he is even a little glad that Russia is again becoming a sea power. Aircraft carriers mentioned. Give us a little peace of mind - and there will be aircraft carriers ...
    1. ansimov
      0
      18 January 2013 19: 05
      And more money and temporary laughing
  13. +1
    18 January 2013 16: 10
    Each boat is 185 feet long, 15 feet wide, and diving depths up to 500 feet. - is this a joke?

    http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CF%EE%E4%E2%EE%E4%ED%FB%E5_%EB%EE%E4%EA%E8_%EF%F0%
    EE%E5%EA%F2%E0_955_%AB%C1%EE%F0%E5%E9%BB
  14. 0
    18 January 2013 16: 17
    We need to build such beauties and not aircraft carriers, that all American missile defense went to software good And what about our Typhoons, who knows?
    1. +1
      18 January 2013 18: 29
      Two or three of them are left. This kind of training will be used.

      The rest are less fortunate ...
      1. +2
        18 January 2013 19: 19
        TK-208 Dmitry Donskoy It was modernized according to the project 941UM. Used to test the new Bulava SLBM.

        TK-17 "Arkhangelsk" It was modernized according to the project 941UM.

        TK-20 Severstal It was modernized according to the project 941UM.
        1. PLO
          +1
          18 January 2013 20: 55
          TK-208 "Dmitry Donskoy" Modernized according to the project 941UM. Used to test the new Bulava SLBM.

          It's right
          only the future of this submarine is unknown, in principle it can be used as a test one, but neither the Defense Ministry nor Sevmash want to pay for its operation, so nothing is clear yet

          TK-17 "Arkhangelsk" Modernized according to the project 941UM.
          TK-20 Severstal Modernized according to the project 941UM.

          nobody has upgraded them yet
          they both suck until their fate is decided
  15. +1
    18 January 2013 16: 21
    what point bench press - remember us a little but we are in vests laughing
  16. 0
    18 January 2013 16: 27
    Great news. drinks
  17. Atlon
    +4
    18 January 2013 16: 31
    Although such an attack will never occur under any circumstances,

    Another Jewish article ... Something the Jews have intensified, why would it?
    1. +5
      18 January 2013 16: 45
      Quote: Atlon
      Something the Jews have intensified, why would it?

      He gets worse from the fact that Russia is getting prettier, not otherwise, and every day ..
  18. 0
    18 January 2013 17: 08
    Who knows - can a submarine theoretically accelerate - diving like an airplane?
    Lose buoyancy - dive down, restore buoyancy - dive up.
    So, without the use of screws and swim "breaststroke".
    1. +2
      18 January 2013 17: 15
      If it is very theoretical ... only that neither depth nor strength is enough for acceleration. The deepest boat was "Komsomolets" of project 685 "Plavnik" - about 1 km. The rest are from 450 to 600 maximum.
      True, it is worth making exceptions - AS-12 "Losharik", but this is already special. boats.
      1. 0
        18 January 2013 17: 49
        But what, 100 meters to disperse is not enough?
        At an angle of 5 degrees, she will dive these 100 meters for a kilometer.
        If the weight of the boat ... let it be 20000 tons, then with a slope of 5 degrees it will push forward with a force of 1700 tons.
        This is approximately (if I calculated everything correctly) a power of 17 megawatts.
        1. +1
          18 January 2013 18: 09
          Did you take water resistance into account? Plus the mass of the boat, i.e. her inertia.
          5 degrees, this is in my opinion about nothing at all ... this is not a dive, this planning will work out .. it’s smooth ...))))
          And here is the emergency ascent of Los Angeles. Did you mean that? What is the crew there, even afraid to imagine.
          1. 0
            18 January 2013 19: 07
            Water resistance also affects conventional engines.
            And 5 degrees - as I already thought - this is already quite solid power - only the boat needs to attach fins wider - to increase the lateral resistance and it does not fall down.
            A sharp ascent is not necessary - constant pressure is maintained inside and when approaching the extreme points, the buoyancy is leveled to zero.
            1. Misantrop
              +1
              18 January 2013 19: 32
              Quote: Andrey_K
              constant pressure inside

              Inside, atmospheric pressure is maintained, since with an increase in pressure by only half a kilogram from normal, sensors will massively fail. And at this pressure (much less than outboard), with increasing depth, there is a very strong crimp of the body, i.e. buoyancy sharply decreases. With a differential of 5 degrees in the middle course for a dive from 50 to 200 m, the boat needs less than a minute. How long will the margin of safety of hull structures with such a crimp frequency be?
              Quote: Andrey_K
              the boat needs to be attached wider fins

              The boat only changes the trim elevators, the main force - from the position of the hull of the submarine.

              In general, the boat is trimmed into a small trim on the bow and positive buoyancy. It is precisely so that, in the event of the sudden operation of the emergency protection of a nuclear weapon or turbine, it does not fail, but rather ascends as the speed decreases. By the way, the boatswain (midshipman until recently) is sitting on the steering wheels on alert, and according to readiness No. 2 - the sailor from the boatswain team. Is it not very expensive to trust such experiments to a sailor? winked
              1. 0
                18 January 2013 22: 08
                Well, this argument is more or less clear - that the housing may get tired from a constant pressure drop.
                But if new materials and technologies arise, you can probably expect such an exotic way of sailing boats - absolutely silent and economical.
                For example, unmanned submarines are robots - they do not need to maintain constant pressure - only in any small compartment for special devices - but otherwise you can keep the pressure equal to the pressure of the water (or more).
                Such a robot can swim in a special way.
                1. Misantrop
                  0
                  18 January 2013 23: 44
                  Quote: Andrey_K
                  Such a robot can swim in a special way.
                  Well, maybe just swim lol Usually only tourists go to sea for this. And the underwater vehicle has to simultaneously solve a whole complex of tasks such as detection, tracking, communication with the base, etc. And such a "shuttle" move is unlikely to be an assistant here lol
    2. Good Ukraine
      +1
      18 January 2013 17: 57
      Who knows - can a submarine theoretically accelerate - diving like an airplane?
      Lose buoyancy - dive down, restore buoyancy - dive up.
      So, without the use of screws and swim "breaststroke".

      For Andrey_K
      American can, Only not "bras" but "CANCER"
    3. Misantrop
      0
      18 January 2013 19: 21
      Quote: Andrey_K
      can a submarine theoretically accelerate - diving like an airplane?

      In theory. There are not many suicides to test in practice. It’s about the same as diving down to asphalt on a plane to take advantage of the effect of ekranoplan wink
  19. 0
    18 January 2013 17: 29
    I would like to quote the words written by Rogozin on Twitter ...... Kirdyk to you bourgeois !!!!
  20. sxn278619
    0
    18 January 2013 17: 31
    Can I put a Mace on a diesel boat?
    Then she patrols in the Barents Sea under the guise of anti-submarine ships.
    Cheap and cheerful.
    Rastoyanik from Murmansk to New York 6800 km.
    1. 0
      18 January 2013 17: 55
      Most likely no. It makes no sense, autonomy is small, even if you increase it to the desired size.
    2. +1
      18 January 2013 18: 34
      Yes, it’s easy in Murmansk and put on slipways for launch, why then patrol in the Barents Sea ?! The base should still be covered with a bang!
      1. +3
        18 January 2013 18: 40
        Developing your thought, we get .. mine complexes with ICBMs. wassat
        1. 0
          18 January 2013 19: 04
          namely, submarines for the USA. And shaving without them can not rock the boat.
  21. +1
    18 January 2013 19: 18
    Do you feel? everything is falling into place, or does it seem to me? I still need to firmly defend Syria, then for sure, the Bear woke up!
  22. Nechai
    0
    18 January 2013 20: 59
    Quote: Andrey_K
    Who knows - can a submarine theoretically accelerate - diving like an airplane?

    There is a bike in the Navy, two friends - one was the commander, the second was an old mech on a diesel boat based in Albania, in the late 50s, after the newest aircraft carrier of the Amers was sent to the dry dock for overhaul, they began to think about how to carry out their second dream - "Nesterov's Loop" performed by NAPL. They didn't let the bastards exercise. Transferred with an increase, BUT ashore ...
    Quote: Wedmak
    And here is the emergency ascent of Los Angeles. Did you mean that? What is the crew there, even afraid to imagine.

    There is a free and non-emergency ascent - the maneuver is called "Whale jump". After its implementation in this water area, the range of acoustic detection of the submarine in passive mode is sharply reduced. And the active one seems to have a dramatic effect.
    Quote: sxn278619
    Can I put a Mace on a diesel boat?

    It’s easier to place missile bays of submarines at the bottom of inland waters. Uninhabited. Autonomous isotopic power source with the necessary power for monitoring, communication and starting a more powerful generator, during the launch. With the possibility of audit visits, etc.
  23. +2
    18 January 2013 21: 23
    Although such an attack will never occur under any circumstances, when amers say so it is necessary to arm even faster. soldier
    However, the "Mace" during the tests shows itself more or less successfully only in recent years Problems when testing a new one are normal, after them the product is finished and the children’s sores are eliminated. So amers do not hope and do not advise checking their performance.
    On paper, the Mace has Did you see this paper? I repeat: I do not advise checking their performance.
    In general, according to the tone of the article, one can feel that the amers have become thoughtful and the diapers are ready, they have been wary, for sure, and in general they will soon have a vote on the military budget there that the article is from this opera (Russia is arming itself).
    1. +1
      18 January 2013 21: 32
      In general, according to the tone of the article, one can feel that the amers have become thoughtful and the diapers are ready, they have been wary, for sure, and in general they will soon have a vote on the military budget there that the article is from this opera (Russia is arming itself).

      That's right, their government was thinking about cutting the military budget, but here the Russians actually in three years (I know that the head one was built for a long time) three new underwater strategists gash down. Yes, and Ash, and even Lada ... Ships are being built .. T-50 "flew away" in earnest ... They say about some PAK YES ( belay ) How did it happen? fool
      1. +2
        19 January 2013 02: 11
        Harnessed for a long time, quickly drove off.
  24. wax
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    18 January 2013 22: 54
    Although such an attack will never occur under any circumstances

    And precisely in order not to attack, the amers everywhere have an ever newer plan of attack (the last published by President Carter).
    Especially touches "under no circumstances."
  25. 0
    21 January 2013 02: 06
    Captured by the Yankees. And rightly so. As long as Russia stands, these snakes will not breathe calmly.
  26. Various
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    8 February 2014 20: 09
    Here you are all wondering where the taxes go - they go mostly to ensure our security!