Truce in Ukraine or direct clash with NATO: what to expect for Russia in 2024

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Truce in Ukraine or direct clash with NATO: what to expect for Russia in 2024

In the last two weeks, both the press and the domestic blogosphere have increasingly discussed possible peace negotiations on Ukraine and the likely freezing of the conflict. Western media also write about this, which have long raised questions about the positional impasse on the Ukrainian fronts and the impossibility of Ukrainian troops to achieve their goals.

Even NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg speaks about serious problems for the Ukrainian Armed Forces. In a recent interview with the German television channel Das Erste, he called for “preparing for bad news» in Ukraine, since the West cannot provide Kyiv with a sufficient amount of military equipment and ammunition.



Against this background, Russian military commanders began to speak out against a possible truce and are discussing an attack on Kharkov and Odessa, believing that the loss of interest in Kyiv on the part of the United States and Europe could lead to a complete victory over Ukraine.

Some political scientists went even further - Yuri Baranchik, for example, who had previously discussed the campaign of the Russian Armed Forces in the Baltics, recently said that “as soon as Ukraine burns out” (as if the victory over the Ukrainian Armed Forces had already been practically won), “all the most interesting things” will begin, and namely, the next proxy wars with NATO in Africa and Syria, as well as conflicts in Central Asia. In general, the struggle for a multipolar world.

According to the author, some of these fabrications are quite far from reality for one simple reason - at the moment the Russian army is fighting heavy battles near Avdeevka, not far from Donetsk, and therefore now we can only talk about a likely victory over the Ukrainian Armed Forces in this direction, and not about capitulation of Ukraine. And statements in the spirit of “the enemy must be finished off,” as written by some patriotic Telegram channels, do not quite correlate with reality.

In approximately the same vein, some bloggers and military correspondents talked about the battle for Bakhmut (Artemovsk) - they say that the capture of the city will be a turning point in the confrontation with Ukraine and will lead to its capitulation. In reality, nothing of the sort happened.

Nothing similar will happen after the end of the battle for Avdeevka: if the Russian Armed Forces are successful in this direction, Ukrainian troops will occupy new lines of defense, and the assaults will have to begin again.

However, in connection with the above, a logical question arises - what should we expect in the new year 2024? Truce in Ukraine or new proxy wars?

The military conflict is heading towards a freeze


Regarding peace negotiations in Ukraine, sentiments prevail among patriotic bloggers and military officers that can be characterized quote military volunteer Roman Alekhine:

“There cannot be even a hint of a peace treaty without the returned regions within their administrative borders, but no less important - without the Nikolaev and Odessa regions.”

To some extent, this may be correct and fair, but the fact is that such statements have nothing to do with reality. Apart from the advance near Avdeevka and some successes near Bakhmut (Artemovsk), in general the Russian army has been on the defensive for many months.

The situation in the Northern Military District zone can still be characterized as a positional impasse; at the moment there are no signs of preparation for a large-scale offensive operation on the part of the Russian Armed Forces, since there are no appropriate forces and means for this.

The Russian army still failed to achieve air supremacy (there is superiority in certain sectors of the front, but nothing more), there are problems with communications and counter-battery warfare. It is absolutely unclear by what forces and means bloggers and experts propose to attack Odessa, taking into account the fact that the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ bridgeheads on the left bank of the Dnieper have not yet been eliminated.

For this reason, the author considers the author to make further mischievous statements inappropriate. If the Russian Armed Forces were stationed near Kiev, then such conversations would make sense; now, when the battles are taking place not far from Donetsk, they have no value.

In addition, we should not forget that even when Russian troops were stationed near Kiev, there was no talk of the complete surrender of Ukraine - they then agreed on a neutral status and a reduction in the number of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. With the subsequent withdrawal of the RF Armed Forces to the line from 24.02.2022/XNUMX/XNUMX.

Another important point is that the purpose of the SVO has not yet been clearly formulated, and some experts are wishful thinking when they try to formulate it.

In fact, officials such as Russian Presidential Press Secretary Dmitry Peskov and Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova have repeatedly asserted that Moscow is ready for negotiations with Kiev taking into account the current realities. The realities that exist at the moment do not imply either an assault on Zaporozhye, much less an assault on Kharkov.

Thus, when we start talking about the complete capitulation of Ukraine, many unanswered questions immediately arise.

If we assume that such a goal will be set, how is it proposed to achieve it? By what forces and means? And what should we do if NATO countries do take retaliatory measures in response and, for example, send in troops from Poland or Romania under the guise of “peacekeeping assistance”?

The fact that the West is losing interest in Kyiv does not yet mean that they will completely abandon support for Ukraine.

So far, it looks like the military conflict in Ukraine is moving towards some kind of political and diplomatic solutions, as a result of which it will either be frozen for some period of time or resolved through a peace agreement on the terms of the status quo. At the same time, the likelihood of a freeze without a peace agreement (in the North Korea-South Korea format) is much higher than the signing of an agreement.

It is unclear exactly when negotiations will begin, but with a high probability this could happen in the second half of 2024.

There is an opinion that Russia does not benefit from agreements on a truce and freezing the conflict for the reason that a truce without a full-fledged peace agreement is a postponed war. This statement is partly true, but it is a mistake to assume that only the Ukrainian Armed Forces will take advantage of the long pause.

It would also be a good idea for the RF Armed Forces to work on the mistakes and give those soldiers who have been without rotation for more than a year a good rest.

How big are the risks of a collision with the NATO bloc?


This is not to say that the threat of a direct clash with NATO no longer exists - the likelihood of this, although small, remains.

However, there is reason to believe that the format of relations with the West will most likely not change radically before the elections in the United States. And then everything will depend on who wins the elections: Republicans or Democrats.

If the Republicans win, the conflict will either be frozen for a long time (because military supplies to Kyiv will stop; the Republicans are already voting against it), or some kind of peace treaty will be concluded.

If the Democrats win, the risks of a clash with NATO will increase, as the author has already written about in the material “The world will be divided into two camps”: what could be the contours of the new world order in the coming years" The likelihood of new regional wars will also increase.

Even if the military conflict in Ukraine is frozen - which is not very obvious if the Democratic Party wins, rather it may take on the format of the Iran-Iraq war - then after its completion the confrontation between Russia and the West will continue. Actually, this is directly stated in the report of the American Institute of Strategy and Policy New Lines. One of the scenarios for the future world order is described in the report as follows:

“Tension remains the central feature polarizing the world in the new bipolar system. The EU is gravitating towards and further integrating into the transatlantic community, while Russia is following a similar trajectory within the Asian community.

Tensions between the United States and China are growing, but do not lead to armed conflict. Economic relations, political factions and military alliances tend to polarize.

As a consequence, the two junior partners, the EU and Russia, will be forced to side with one of the two great powers.

Economic pressure is developing through the revival of intra-regional blocs, protectionism, economic geopolitics, economic cyber warfare and technological competition.

Military escalation is manifested in an arms race, a corresponding increase in the military budgets of the two countries and their allies, as well as conflicts in East Asia, especially in the South China Sea region.

We should expect new proxy wars like the Ukrainian one.”

Thus, the format of this confrontation can be very different, including in the form of new regional conflicts on the border with Russia. There is also a possibility of a direct clash with NATO countries if the West decides to become increasingly drawn into the conflict.

However, a Republican victory at the moment still seems more likely than a Democratic victory. This is also recognized by the European press, for example The Economist,.

“As summer turned to autumn, it became increasingly clear that the Ukrainian counteroffensive had failed. In October, the EU split as war broke out in the Middle East. Faster than you can say “Ho! Ho! Ho!”, the prospect of Donald Trump returning to power in America has gone from a “can you imagine if” scenario to a “what should we do when” scenario. The unity that allowed Europe to survive in the early days of the conflict is no longer as reliable as it was.”

Of course, even if the Republicans win, Russia will most likely play the role of a sort of “helpful bad guy,” but the risks of a direct clash between NATO and Russia will be significantly reduced.

For this reason, at the moment it is impossible to say unequivocally that Russia will face new military conflicts, much less talk about the “inevitability of a clash with NATO,” as, for example, political scientist Yu. Baranchik does.

Conclusion


To summarize, it should be stated that at the moment the international political situation is becoming increasingly chaotic, and political leaders are repeatedly making decisions that are inadequate to the situation and, apparently, are not able to respond to existing challenges.

When experts and journalists talk about the need for a new Potsdam Conference, they generally express the right thoughts, but they do not take into account the main thing - current politicians, apparently, are not ready for a big political and diplomatic agreement. This was demonstrated by the recent meeting between Xi and Biden, from which some political scientists expected some fateful decisions.

One cannot but agree with the blogger “Atomic Cherry”, who once wrote that

“China and the United States are predators of the old era and are seeking to reach an agreement not in order to offer a new alternative, but in order to try to fix in the moment the remnants of what once prevented the third world war from starting. They have no new ideas, no new concepts - they only have a desire to return to the old world, which no longer exists."

Russia's place in this brave new world, which will continue to be in turmoil, depends both on its own policies and on the actions of other global players.

Unfortunately, having lost the opportunity to win a quick and confident victory in Ukraine, the Russian Federation now increasingly depends not on its own decisions, but on the actions of other states.
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  1. -12
    9 December 2023 04: 21
    You can probably pose the question differently: what can NATO expect from Russia in 2024: a freeze in Europe or a continuation of the conflict:?)
    1. +2
      9 December 2023 05: 52
      Quote: BMP-2
      freeze in Europe or continuation of the conflict

      I am for freezing Europe!!!
      To remember there:
      1. +5
        9 December 2023 19: 46
        What do you freeze with? In any case, they will pump gas.
    2. +21
      9 December 2023 12: 49
      Quote: BMP-2
      frosts in Europe
      Last year, all our bastards were shouting about the freezing of Europe, General Frost, etc. Well, is it frozen? Don't wait this year either: https://tass.ru/ekonomika/19179867
      1. 0
        9 December 2023 15: 46
        So, did you hope that she would freeze herself? With ever-increasing volumes of supplies from Russia??? No.
        The author is right that Russia is not in control of the situation in the “brave new world”. But she can still influence her!
      2. +11
        9 December 2023 15: 48
        Quote: Infinity
        Last year, all our bastards were shouting about the freezing of Europe, General Frost, etc. Well, is it frozen?

        They will shout at this too. This is their job.
        1. 0
          9 December 2023 23: 24
          I don’t know who exactly you mean when you say “they”. But personally, I still believe that stopping the supply of raw materials to Europe is the only possible way to limit, and possibly stop, European countries’ support for the Ukrainian Nazi regime.
          1. 0
            9 December 2023 23: 29
            But who will suffer more in this situation? Alas, Russia needs money now more than ever.
            Since “what happened is what happened”, we will have to supply at least for now through third countries
          2. Qas
            -1
            10 December 2023 12: 04
            Russia will stop supplying oil/gas to Europe and:
            1. Where to get money for rearmament and just new weapons, salary (200 thousand a month or more) for the boys in the trenches;
            2. Social services in the country.
            Yes, right now someone will start counting pennies and how much it costs, but there’s no extra money in sight either! Putin still can’t fire Siluanov and Nabiullina and all the Grefs, but they will try for the good of the West. And Lavrov keeps calling for negotiations. So you need to think deeper.
            1. +6
              10 December 2023 16: 25
              1. Rearmament requires not money, but production and technology. By supplying raw materials to the West, Russia allows Western “partners” to increase production, including weapons, which the West then supplies to Ukraine.
              2. Social services - it also requires not just money, but money that is provided with products. Otherwise, there will be high inflation and galloping price increases. That is, for the social sector, we need to increase production, and not collect green candy wrappers, which at any moment can become cheaper than broken clay shards.
      3. +2
        14 December 2023 23: 11
        Quote: Infinity
        Last year, all our crazy people were screaming about freezing.

        Making hats is an old Russian national pastime!
  2. +20
    9 December 2023 04: 21
    Some stupid nonsense about a direct collision with Nata. They are accustomed to shedding blood with the hands of others. and for theirs they will hang all the sirs and congressmen by the balls.
    1. +7
      9 December 2023 19: 49
      If all the turbo-patriots, members of the government, the Federation Council and the State Duma were to go into the trenches and send the North Military District to attack, it would be over in a week.
  3. -13
    9 December 2023 04: 48
    China the Predator!!! When did he become one? The article is crazy...
    1. +34
      9 December 2023 07: 17
      The author is right about almost everything. The article is correct.
      China is the most dangerous predator, hiding for a while while its potential victims wage bloody showdowns among themselves. But this is not about him now.
      The other day, after general approval and persuasion, he deigned to express his consent to the next presidency. Based on this, 2 options emerge:
      1. Urapatriotic, aka hat-throwing, simply fantastic.
      Namely: - removal of liberals from management in economics and finance,
      - mobilization of the entire country for victory,
      - personnel cleansing of law enforcement agencies and the state apparatus as a whole from corrupt officials and managers,
      - and a lot more that hovers in the brains of cheering patriots...
      2. Realistic based on the 24 years lived under his rule.
      Namely: - “everything is fine, beautiful marquise”... we are winning, but the enemy trembles and runs... we’ve been waiting since the fall...
      - “horses, especially donkeys, are not changed at the crossing”...
      - but in fact, “no change on the Western Front”...
      - Trump won - our negotiations loomed on the horizon... our Masha with Solovyov and Skabeeva will loudly announce a strategic victory...
      - from Barents to Crimea, your own man-made gas sector for many years... no war, no peace...
      - the population, sighing heavily, will continue to survive among mortgages, loans, meager wages, rising prices and housing and communal services, insolent migrants and the rulers themselves... and wherever the curve takes them...

      -
      1. AUL
        +3
        9 December 2023 16: 30
        Quote: kepmor
        Based on this, 2 options emerge:

        Unfortunately, option 1 is not even science fiction, but just... unrealistic projections!
      2. AAK
        +6
        9 December 2023 18: 21
        The final phrase of the article should have been a bucket of water on one’s head, but alas, alas... And as yesterday’s information showed, the electorate is again ready to desire the One who, over the course of almost a quarter of a century, has strengthened the position of the Russian Federation as not a subject, but at least quite a large, but still an object of world politics, pulling it out from under the mattresses and geyropa and putting it under the wise Peking monkey (if anything - a metaphor from a parable)... The agreement is close!
  4. -4
    9 December 2023 04: 50
    According to the author, some of these fabrications are quite far from reality for one simple reason - at the moment the Russian army is fighting heavy battles near Avdeevka, not far from Donetsk, and therefore now we can only talk about a likely victory over the Ukrainian Armed Forces in this direction

    So how much can we say that the Northern Military District is carried out by small forces of our armed forces... and military tasks are slightly different from political tasks in the Kremlin. request
    There is a lot that is unclear to me in this chess game called SVO...oh, I wish I could take a quick look at the real plans of the GDP and the General Staff of Russia...what lies on the surface well covers what lies in the depths. smile
    1. +37
      9 December 2023 05: 49
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      oh, just take a look at the real GDP plans and the Russian General Staff...what lies on the surface well covers what lies in the depths.

      There is only one plan - to stay in power by any means, as they have been demonstrating to us since 1992...
      1. +1
        9 December 2023 06: 06
        Quote: ROSS 42
        to stay in power by any means

        Putin said that he will participate in elections in 24...
        1. +2
          9 December 2023 06: 55
          Did you doubt it? Ukraine, mentally, has long been in Western Europe. There is such a thing called “sky politics”. The population of Ukraine, especially in its western part, is under the strong influence of the egregor of Western civilization. The transformation of the consciousness of the population of Ukraine did not occur from the beginning of the 90s of the last century, it was observed since the time of the Kyiv princes, not to mention the Middle Ages and the times of the revival and formation of the Russian Empire. Now the Western vector has simply taken final shape in the minds of the population of most of Ukraine. Ukraine is a “cut off piece”, this needs to be realized and accepted. It is clear that next door to us there will be a hostile state just like Poland. In this situation, it is necessary to take away lands that historically belonged to Russia, and let Ukraine float freely. The severance of all ties between Ukraine and Russia and Belarus is even expressed in the fact that they began to destroy historical Orthodoxy on their territory. Stalin made a historical mistake in 1945 by deciding to leave the lands of Galicia as part of Ukraine, thereby “inoculating the cancer of Western fierce nationalism” onto the body of Ukraine. Over time, metastases began and now this infection began to flourish throughout almost all of Ukraine. There are two choices here: either a long guerrilla war of attrition, beneficial to the West, or taking away the historical territories of Russia and creating a rigid cordon on the border with a distraught state. Western Europe will spoil things for us, which means we need to create problems for them on their territory, there is no other way. As they say, you have to pay for mistakes.
          1. +21
            9 December 2023 07: 49
            very competent and well-reasoned +++++
            a small remark...after 24.02.22 the overwhelming majority of the population of the original Russian territories is clearly not eager to return to Russia...mobs from these areas with the same frenzy as the Banderaites are opposing ours at the front...both Odessa and Nikolaev are no longer “Russian” cities in their essence... we blew that too...
            1. +1
              9 December 2023 22: 40
              Quote: kepmor
              We screwed this too...

              It's not us who screwed up.
              The Kremlin is not Moscow.
              Moscow is not Russia.
              Donbass - Russia.
            2. +2
              11 December 2023 22: 30
              kepmor "Both Odessa and Nikolaev are far from being “Russian” cities in their essence... we blew that too..."
              And?))) That's it?))) Should I sprinkle ashes on my head or what?) There was a guy from Berdyansk on the site before I was 13 years old. HE said that only Maidan people live there and he was right. Well, at 22 ours entered. At first, of course, there were Ukrainian rallies. And then on May 9, the locals were already wearing St. George ribbons.))) Are you hearing about this Berdyansk now? So are the rest of the cities in Novorossiya. If these areas are dealt with everything will be fine. Eliminate the Ukrov agents, expel and deprive the waiting people and collaborators of their citizenship. Conduct ideological and propaganda work. And if we don’t do this, then of course we’ll waste it. Who said that the majority there are non-Ukrainians? People are afraid. And there is such a thing.
            3. 0
              15 December 2023 14: 59
              And, in the fog of reasoning, did you confuse Russian cities and Russian lands? These are still different things. And the Russian lands can be wasted (your terms) only by refusing to liberate them!
          2. +12
            9 December 2023 17: 36
            Quote: 2112vda
            The transformation of the consciousness of the population of Ukraine did not occur since the beginning of the 90s of the last century, it has been observed since the times of the Kyiv princes...

            - sounds like an excuse for the worthlessness of our (or rather their, our bourgeois) policy in the post-Soviet space. In fact, during the USSR, even among the Westerners, Ukrainian nationalism was not observed, and we knew about Bandera only from anecdotes. Lviv was a Russian-speaking city. ALL cities in Ukraine were Russian-speaking. And now? Let's say it straight: Ukraine has been FUCKED, to say the least!
            The Supreme Commander does not use the Internet, and if he did, he would know that it is not the “Russian world” that today’s Ukrainians want, but joining the EU, and has been for a long time. Such a “Russian world” as we have now does not even attract all Russians.
            1. +4
              9 December 2023 22: 48
              Quote: MBRBS
              The “Russian world” is what current Ukrainians want, and joining the EU has been something they have wanted for a long time. Such a “Russian world” as we have now does not even attract all Russians.

              But the indigenous inhabitants of the “European World” are increasingly attracted to the Russian World and Russia - in terms of planning their own future.
              But the towers really seem to be aimed not at returning the Northern Black Sea region home, but at changing the population of Russia itself. And feed her insects.
              As are the helmsmen, so is the course.
            2. 0
              10 December 2023 11: 55
              Why did you decide that there was no nationalism? In the 60s, a security post was cut out in a part located in the Lviv region. The wife’s relatives live in Lvov; they visited them and only walked around the city accompanied by their relatives. I had to work in the North in the mid-80s with Ukrainians from different regions of Ukraine. Donetsk and Lugansk have always been normal, but from the same Dnepropetrovsk, not to mention the center and west of Ukraine, they accused us of the Holodomor, like the Russians staged it. When I said that there was also a famine in the Volga region, they replied that this was different. Already in post-war times, nationalism flourished there, and our Central Committee of the CPSU flirted with them because there were a lot of representatives from Ukraine. So they were brainwashed long before 1991. Here Putin’s assessment of the contribution made by Lenin is very correct.
    2. +2
      9 December 2023 17: 43
      I wouldn’t say anything about the lack of strength... Last year we went on a business trip to the Moscow region, from humanitarian aid workers to the unit. We spent half a day looking for someone who would mark the business trip. Everything was there. The same thing in neighboring units. This is so, a small slice
  5. +16
    9 December 2023 05: 02
    The second year of the SVO is ending. There is practically no talk about the goals declared on February 24.02th. Increasingly, in media of various sizes, its (NWO) prospects are linked not with the decisions of the Russian Federation and Ukraine, but with whoever wins the elections in the United States.
    If I (or I) had been told (declared) about this in March 2022... Who can say - “Everything is going according to plan?” And whose is this plan?
    1. +20
      9 December 2023 05: 47
      Quote: Plufik
      "Everything goes according to plan?" And whose is this plan?

      The plan of those who placed gold and foreign currency reserves in the West, who raised the retirement age, who decided that 16 rubles is quite enough to meet the needs of an ADULT WORKING PERSON, who consider annual inflation of 242% or more to be the rule, who decided that we are not yet fully we pay for the services of snickering housing and communal services...
      Those who believe that education, insurance medicine, and housing in a country where the average annual temperature is negative have reached the PEAK OF ITS PERFECTION...
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      2. +13
        9 December 2023 07: 55
        not those... but that... and his name is V.V. Putin. and his team...
        1. +2
          9 December 2023 18: 32
          Quote: kepmor
          not those... but that... and his name is V.V. Putin. and his team...

          I would still swap the positions of the terms, first the team, and then Putin, as fulfilling her wishes, although, as you know, changing the places of the terms does not change anything.
    2. AUL
      +5
      9 December 2023 16: 40
      Quote: Plufik
      Who can say, “Everything is going according to plan?” And whose is this plan?

      The one we will elect with an overwhelming majority of votes on March 17.03.2024, XNUMX!
      1. 0
        9 December 2023 17: 44
        The one we will elect with an overwhelming majority of votes on March 17.03.2024, XNUMX!

        I think anything over 55% is a cheat. However, the Uncontested will receive a fair majority. Only if earlier they voted on the principle “if only there was no war,” then this time they voted “if only there was no mobilization” (after all, they promise that there won’t be!).
        1. +6
          10 December 2023 07: 32
          Quote: MBRBS
          (after all, they promise that it won’t happen!).

          They promised not to raise the retirement age, to index pensions, not to cling to a chair.... And a lot of other things that you won’t even remember.
  6. -13
    9 December 2023 05: 09
    Is everyone in Russia not worthy of respect and does not understand the realities? The author examines the situation from the perspective of the director, the West. So the entire Russian Federation has its own music. Defensive structures took 8 years to build, they are being broken into in order to sit down at the negotiating table, giving the enemy time to dig in and pour new positions into concrete!? I don’t expect breakthroughs to the English Channel, we don’t need big losses, but we need to press. Just to win. This is their goal, the negotiations have already failed and no one expects results from them, everyone has come to the idea that the troops will solve all the problems. This is true for both sides, and the West needs negotiations due to financial and material exhaustion. Stupidly new meat needs to be trained. Conclusion, it will continue until 2030. Lviv will be Russian or deserted. The Iron Curtain will not happen, there will be trenches and “provocations” on both sides on the border, ours will no longer remain silent, they will burn in response.
    1. +13
      9 December 2023 08: 03
      old legend, but hard to believe... through your lips and drink honey...
      however, 24 years of rule give clear reason to doubt your judgment...
  7. 0
    9 December 2023 05: 12
    the opinion that agreements on a truce and freezing of the conflict are unfavorable for Russia for the reason that a truce without a full-fledged peace agreement is a postponed war. This statement is partly true,

    This statement is absolutely true...9 years of Minsk1,2...double deception of Putin by negotiators from the West and Ukraine with false promises finally convinced me that the ability to negotiate hehe of these partners is a myth.
    One can talk about peace with the Nazis in Ukraine only after their surrender...following the example of Germany defeated by the Nazis.
    For the West, we are like a people, Putin himself is the Indians of North America...who can be deceived, pitted against each other, driven into reservations and given gifts infected with all sorts of poison and infection.
    Everything is decided on the battlefield...Borrell said it correctly.
    1. +13
      9 December 2023 10: 16
      Your comment is a set of common misconceptions among ordinary people. I’m not even talking about the fact that the Northern Military District has nothing to do with the “fight against Nazism” (otherwise the “Azovites” would not be walking free), and today’s Ukraine has nothing to do with the Third Reich - it does not have a clearly defined ideology, moreover, it she is eager to integrate into the current Western world (which, in turn, is not eager to take her there and simply uses her as a doll for her own purposes).

      Nothing will be decided on the battlefield, because the favorable moment for this has been missed. Many ordinary people and jingoists, who know about what is happening mainly from what they say on TV, have the misleading impression that with a snap of their fingers they can again begin a global offensive and quickly reach Kiev. You can, of course, live in an alternative reality, this is everyone’s choice, but in reality the situation is completely different. Yes, the RF Armed Forces could do this and that (strike some bridges and try to destroy the political leadership of Ukraine, which is an extremely belated measure and is no longer a fact that will lead to success), but globally this is not enough will affect. The positional deadlock on the fronts will not suddenly disappear because of this.

      When some commentators write that “there are no signs of a large-scale offensive, it doesn’t mean anything,” hinting, again, that it can be organized with a snap of the fingers... No, it’s impossible. Not only because there are no people for this, but also because the military-industrial complex is currently not ready for a “total war” regime. Therefore, the conflict will either be resolved through some political and diplomatic actions, or it will finally take the format of the Iran-Iraq war and will last for an unknown number of years, and in the end will still end through negotiations. The author sees the situation this way, and he does not find convincing arguments that it is otherwise.
      1. -1
        9 December 2023 11: 05
        Today's Ukraine...it does not have a clearly defined ideology...

        Eat! Ukraine is not Russia.
      2. +2
        9 December 2023 20: 25
        Quote: Viktor Biryukov
        Your comment is a set of common misconceptions among ordinary people. I’m not even talking about the fact that the Northern Military District has nothing to do with the “fight against Nazism” (otherwise the “Azovites” would not be walking free), and today’s Ukraine has nothing to do with the Third Reich - it does not have a clearly defined ideology, moreover, it she is eager to integrate into the current Western world (which, in turn, is not eager to take her there and simply uses her as a doll for her own purposes).

        Nothing will be decided on the battlefield, because the favorable moment for this has been missed. Many ordinary people and jingoists, who know about what is happening mainly from what they say on TV, have the misleading impression that with a snap of their fingers they can again begin a global offensive and quickly reach Kiev. You can, of course, live in an alternative reality, this is everyone’s choice, but in reality the situation is completely different. Yes, the RF Armed Forces could do this and that (strike some bridges and try to destroy the political leadership of Ukraine, which is an extremely belated measure and is no longer a fact that will lead to success), but globally this is not enough will affect. The positional deadlock on the fronts will not suddenly disappear because of this.

        When some commentators write that “there are no signs of a large-scale offensive, it doesn’t mean anything,” hinting, again, that it can be organized with a snap of the fingers... No, it’s impossible. Not only because there are no people for this, but also because the military-industrial complex is currently not ready for a “total war” regime. Therefore, the conflict will either be resolved through some political and diplomatic actions, or it will finally take the format of the Iran-Iraq war and will last for an unknown number of years, and in the end will still end through negotiations. The author sees the situation this way, and he does not find convincing arguments that it is otherwise.
        good I agree regarding the article and especially the comment!!!
  8. -6
    9 December 2023 05: 15
    And I agree with the author in many respects.
    I would like to emphasize this point: if the West and Ukraine propose peace negotiations, the leadership of the Russian Federation, by definition, will not be able to refuse it. They will not be able to refuse, since an agreement to negotiate is a cultural tradition of humane states, to which we belong both in terms of foreign policy history, and in our philosophy, and in the spirituality of the Russian people.

    And all negotiations usually take place subject to a temporary cessation of hostilities. And what is temporary always has a high probability of becoming long-lasting. In the end, they will simply tie our hands... So the West always has the option of ending the conflict by finding and seating the right person at the table.

    But here, alas, we have a gap for improving our position - mainly only military, because the duped people of Ukraine are in no hurry to join the Russian Federation as regions.

    Our diplomacy is a strong weapon, so there is hope that we won’t catch the Russian Vanya so easily this time. The stupidity of the Ukrainian elites is also on our side. Even after the signing of a peace treaty, they will probably provoke us, which will give Russia the right to hit them even in subsequent history.
    And yet...Patrushev said that for NATO entering Ukraine would be Vietnam. The threat is appropriate, but for now the towns of the Kherson region and Zaporozhye are turning into micro-Afghan for us. Alas, terrorist attacks do not stop against people who supported Russia.
    1. +7
      9 December 2023 05: 39
      Quote: Feodor13
      Our diplomacy is a strong weapon

      “What is the strength, brother?”©
      Someone with a movement of their lips indicated a phrase that had set their teeth on edge, so what? We are a country that stands on the same level as the DPRK and a number of other rogue countries that are prohibited from attending international events, displaying the national flag, and a country whose PRESIDENT, according to the verdict of some “wounded” ICC, can be arrested...
      Haven’t they gone crazy, or haven’t they received diplomatic notes “on the snot” for a long time?
    2. +21
      9 December 2023 07: 06
      Our diplomacy is a strong weapon,

      You're cool!
      I don't know whether to cry or laugh!
      1. AUL
        +7
        9 December 2023 17: 54
        With this, we seem to be in trouble, just like the states in Vietnam were at one time.
        1. +2
          9 December 2023 20: 27
          Quote from AUL
          With this, we seem to be in trouble, just like the states in Vietnam were at one time.
          This is not the first time they have “hinted” at this... sad
  9. +7
    9 December 2023 05: 29
    “There cannot be even a hint of a peace treaty without the returned regions within their administrative borders, but no less important - without the Nikolaev and Odessa regions.”

    That's all you need to know.
    As for the West, it’s time to start kicking it in the teeth, and not feeding it resources from Russia.
    * * *
    Moreover, it is time to recognize “family members”, “family circles”, “her children and distant relatives” living in the West (in NATO countries), as well as those who have real estate, businesses, and bank accounts there - NAZI SCORES with appropriate measures to conversion into state ownership of the assets of these “friends of the people” located in Russia...
  10. -11
    9 December 2023 05: 57
    There are currently no signs of preparation for a large-scale offensive operation on the part of the Russian Armed Forces

    Maybe it's good that indications No? But it’s difficult to judge the plans and intentions of high management from the couch.

    then after its completion the confrontation between Russia and the West will continue

    After the Russian Federation began the Northeast Military District, even after Crimea, there are no other options. The hegemon became decrepit, and the Russian Federation declared that it is a world power and will resolve issues of its security as it sees fit. After this there are no other options. Confrontation until that side goes through all the “stages of acceptance.”

    if the Republicans win

    “It doesn’t matter who votes and how, what matters is who thinks and how”

    current politicians, apparently, are not ready for a big political-diplomatic agreement
    The vast majority of European “politicians” are glove puppets, with the puppeteer’s hand in the anus, and they don’t decide anything. Those who decide are far and away from an adequate perception of reality; their Russian Federation is still the “loser of the Cold War,” a country of vodka, balalaikas and bears.
    1. -2
      9 December 2023 15: 11
      Wow, how the armchair experts were bombed! laughing
      Well, aren't European politicians offended? laughing laughing laughing
  11. +8
    9 December 2023 06: 03
    However, in connection with the above, a logical question arises - what should we expect in the new year 2024? Truce in Ukraine or new proxy wars?

    Any freeze will lead to Europe again pumping weapons into Ukraine and everything will start all over again. “It won’t go away on its own.” The North Military District must be brought to the complete capitulation of the current Ukrainian regime.
    Let's remember what Merkel said about Minsk
    In a conversation with a journalist, the retired politician admitted that the Minsk agreements, in which she was directly involved, were signed only so that Ukraine and the West could better prepare for a clash with Russia. Merkel said the agreements represented "an attempt to give Ukraine time" which it would use to "become stronger." The ex-head of the German government believes that after the defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Debaltsevo in early 2015, “Putin could have easily outplayed them at that time,” and NATO countries would not have been able to “do as much as they do today to help Ukraine.”
  12. +6
    9 December 2023 06: 04
    Quote: ROSS 42
    There is only one plan - to stay in power by any means, as they have been demonstrating to us since 1992...

    Let's say we held on...and then what?
    VVP has put forward his candidacy for the presidential election...now he has real opponents no...everyone who could compete with him, to put it mildly isolated.
    The SVO cannot go on forever...sooner or later it must end...do you have a plausible scenario in your opinion for the end of this war?hi
    1. +4
      9 December 2023 07: 03
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      The SVO cannot go on forever...sooner or later it must end...do you have a plausible scenario in your opinion for the end of this war?

      Why, there are many scenarios.
      The same peace treaty with all the guarantees and signatures of the guarantors - then Gaza and the war from time to time... You can talk a lot, but they will always convincingly explain to us that we won and this time everything is ironclad.
      The ongoing war is sluggish - as they wrote above - until 2030. With and without offensive attempts...
      And everything in between...
  13. -1
    9 December 2023 06: 05
    . Another important point is that the purpose of the SVO has not yet been clearly formulated

    And this is where we had to start. Who prepared the operation and how? What kind of marvelous specialist is responsible for this?

    . It is absolutely unclear by what forces and means bloggers and experts propose to attack Odessa, taking into account the fact that the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ bridgeheads on the left bank of the Dnieper have not yet been eliminated.

    It's like that. But we must understand. If the West cannot (will not) supply Bandera with shells, then this is a chance for us to finally move the border, change the map of military operations. If the Kremlin agrees to a truce now, then the dream of Odessa will now have to say goodbye forever.

    And if the conflict is frozen, then of course they will tell us: “Why do you want a clash with NATO!” Although what kind of clash with NATO is there if NATO cannot supply Ukraine with shells!

    Once again on topic. If luck smiles and a shell famine occurs in Ukraine, it will not last forever. This is a rare window of opportunity; whether to take advantage of it or miss it depends entirely on the Kremlin.
    1. +1
      9 December 2023 10: 38
      You don't really understand the subtleties of the Western game. At the moment, his actions look more like forcing the Ukrainian leadership to negotiate with Moscow and “write off” Zelensky’s team. At the same time, the “war hero” Zaluzhny is being actively promoted (what his “heroism” is is unclear). Concerning “if the Kremlin agrees to a truce now, then the dream of Odessa will have to say goodbye” – this comment demonstrates that you are not entirely realistic about the current situation. This dream, apparently, has long been said goodbye; now the main goal of the North Military District is to complete it on the terms of the status quo and receive written guarantees of neutrality from Ukraine (approximately the same thing was discussed at the Istanbul negotiations, only then it was about returning to the line 24.02.2022/XNUMX/XNUMX, because the negotiations took place before the referendums).
      1. +4
        9 December 2023 11: 10
        ...now the main goal of the SVO is to complete it under the conditions of the status quo

        Maintaining the status quo will lead to the conflict continuing at a higher level in five years.
        1. +1
          9 December 2023 22: 46
          Quote: -Paul-
          Maintaining the status quo will lead to the conflict continuing at a higher level in five years.

          AND...?
          In five years, the people at the top will come up with something - in terms of explaining that “everything is according to plan”
          There is a clear tendency in the discussion to replace the desires of the elite with the desires of the people.
      2. +6
        9 December 2023 11: 18
        It's like that. There is only one BUT... with neutrality it will be the same as with the Minsks... they will fool you again... he is so gullible with us...
      3. -1
        9 December 2023 15: 28
        receive written guarantees of neutrality from Ukraine (

        The price of these “written guarantees” is even lower than toilet paper. They are used as the “Helsinki Accords of 1975”, with which they have erased one place and which they try not to remember. Only the complete capitulation of the current Kyiv regime, followed by trial and death penalty, can prove to Europe that Russia has been revived and has again become a Great Power.
        Everything else is “cutting the dog’s tail in parts so that it doesn’t hurt so much.” Europe must FEAR Russia again! Only this will guarantee peace and economic cooperation on the European continent. Russia can live without Europe, but Europe cannot live without Russia. In Europe they know a lot about this, but while American puppets are in power there, they can’t do anything. But sooner or later you will have to.
      4. -3
        10 December 2023 01: 21
        There could be no talk of returning to the line dated February 24.02.2022, XNUMX, since by that time Russia had recognized the LPR and DPR. There is no need to repeat myself twice, in the article and here.
      5. +2
        10 December 2023 08: 14
        Quote: Viktor Biryukov
        This dream, apparently, has been said goodbye to long ago; now the main goal of the Northern Military District is to complete it on the terms of the status quo and receive written guarantees of neutrality from Ukraine

        It looks like it.
  14. +12
    9 December 2023 06: 17
    Quote: Feodor13
    Our diplomacy is a powerful weapon, so there is hope

    Are you serious? belay
    Drawing red lines, concerns, bewilderment, regrets of our diplomats cannot be called a strong weapon... it is rather the cry of the powerless, the weak.
    This is how diplomacy cannot be conducted by giving the enemy confidence in our weakness and helplessness.
    1. +5
      9 December 2023 08: 40
      Diplomacy is just a tool, and in whose hands this tool is, determines foreign policy. So it is not Lavrov who determines the strategy, it is his task to implement the Great Plans!
  15. -8
    9 December 2023 06: 17
    The goal of the West is to freeze the conflict in its current positions, or reduce it to a low-intensity conflict, such as what was before the Northern Military District between Novorossiya and the Outskirts - you can shoot at civilians, stage terrorist attacks, but there are no large-scale attacks... A dream for the fascists, not a script! Meanwhile, mattresses will rock Central Asia and the Caucasus against Russia.
    WE don't fucking need this. Therefore, other than continuing the war to DESTROY ALL the bastards who are capable of taking up arms for the Bandera regime, there are no more options. And there is no need to create panic, saying “we are sitting on the defensive.” Why should we attack?! Author, tell me, what will the conquered lands of the Kharkov or Kherson regions give us? Cultivated area? What do we have? there’s a bad harvest, there’s nothing to eat, or there’s not enough land?!
    WE NEED TO DESTROY ALL BANDERISTS.
    That’s the whole goal, since it’s easier to do this on defense and without major losses, we’ll be on the defensive
    1. +6
      9 December 2023 08: 30
      It seems that everything you say is correct, but what prerequisites do you have for thinking that this will happen, other than faith in everything good? Objectively, does the situation now look like it will go according to your scenario? Let me know - what exactly is it similar to? because without specifics - you are just trying to convince yourself that everything is fine and throwing slogans, nothing more... on the site, as if at a rally, there are more slogans than smart thoughts.. “it would be good for us to double the volume of construction” - of course good .. just WHAT allows us to conclude that it is possible to double it, other than the words that “it would be good for us”? or if you believe in this, will it double itself?
      1. -13
        9 December 2023 09: 05
        You are driving away populism, and you just have NO basis for any statement.
        I have:
        1) Resources allow Russia to destroy Bandera’s followers without straining until complete eradication. Russia is conducting the Northern Military District with the participation of 1/6 of the troops on the payroll - there are about 200 thousand involved, out of the army there are 1,2 million. That is, if you wish, you can strengthen it many times, but this is not necessary - and so it is normal, the systematic extermination of the fascists is underway.
        2) The opposite side is neither able to increase nor maintain the intensity of military action - there are not enough resources - from human to technical, both in the Outskirts and in NATO.
        The conclusion is that we are capable of continuing to lead the NWO. They are no longer there... THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY. At the same time, the economy has not been boosted in any way and has not been “transferred to a war footing,” that is, no one has even touched the reserve there either.
        The reasons:
        1) The West needs a truce from the nose, while they are hanging out with the Outskirts, China is running further and further.
        2) Russia only benefits from the SVO and isolation; in particular, they were able to increase domestic production, which was previously directly prohibited by the WTO, protectionism they say. The unacceptability of the truce for the new weapons of the Outskirts is also clear.
        Conclusion two: there are reasons.
        ____________________________________________________________
        All! Proof in two moves - desires coincide with possibilities!
        Now try to justify what you rattled off above with logic. I'll take a look.
        1. +6
          9 December 2023 09: 38
          Quote from Bingo
          Russia is conducting the Northern Military District with the participation of 1/6 of the troops on the payroll - there are about 200 thousand involved, out of the army there are 1,2 million.

          So there are only at least 300 thousand mobilized (forgot?), another 450 thousand officially volunteered (forgot?) to the 200 you indicated, in total, already under a million... and this is only the RF Armed Forces.. without the Russian Guard and the rest..
          Quote from Bingo
          2) The opposite side is neither able to increase nor maintain the intensity of military action - there are not enough resources - from human to technical, both in the Outskirts and in NATO.

          so where is the rapid offensive in this case?
          Quote from Bingo
          The conclusion is that we are capable of continuing to lead the NWO.

          but I completely agree with this..

          in fact, you did not understand the main message of my comment.. WHAT allows you to conclude that all of Ukraine will be taken? even the presence of a possibility (which is not indisputable) does not mean that it will happen.. otherwise WHY is it not visible? We will build on your words... we have higher potential, they have nothing to shoot with and there are no people... WHAT today gives grounds to declare that ALL of Ukraine will be taken? where is the visible movement towards this result that gives reason to think so? specific reasons, and not “you’ll see”? example. In the summer of 1944, there were grounds to assert that Berlin would be taken (the offensive was going on without stopping and had already crossed the border of the USSR, liberating thousands of square kilometers) And what’s important is that it was announced!!! the country's leadership. What are your reasons for today?
          1. -16
            9 December 2023 09: 45
            Quote: Level 2 Advisor
            so only mobilized - at least 300 thousand (forgot?)

            Lies
            Number of mobilized in the Russian Federation cannot exceed 300 thousand. Human. Press Secretary of the Russian President Dmitry Peskov told reporters about this on Tuesday.

            Okay, let's take it for granted
            There is information that at the end of April 2023, the Russian Ministry of Defense concentrated about 300-350 thousand people in the Donbass, as well as in the Zaporozhye and Kherson directions: 113 battalion tactical groups in the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions and 205 such units in the Donetsk direction of the front.

            Still a quarter of the sun
            Quote: Level 2 Advisor
            so where is the rapid offensive in this case?

            What for? Is the extermination of Bandera in progress? Successfully! And this is the goal of the Northern Military District - denazification, not occupation.
            Quote: Level 2 Advisor
            DOES THAT allow you to conclude that all of Ukraine will be taken?

            Я didn't say that. And NOBODY said this! The goal is the elimination of the neo-fascist regime. Nobody was going to CAPTURE, as all the leaders of the Russian Federation and others of the Ministry of Defense spoke about repeatedly.
            -----------------------------------
            Have you noticed how populism is not friendly with logic? I justified my point of view, but you didn’t succeed
            1. +7
              9 December 2023 09: 54
              Quote from Bingo
              so only mobilized - at least 300 thousand (forgot?)

              Lies

              what exactly is a lie? then yours is a much bigger lie about 200 thousand, since you started throwing such accusations...
              Quote from Bingo
              I did not say that. And NOBODY said this! The goal is the elimination of the neo-fascist regime. Nobody was going to CAPTURE, as all the leaders of the Russian Federation and others of the Ministry of Defense spoke about repeatedly.

              oops.. Have you started trying to replace logic? Berlin, too, did not become part of the USSR, although it was taken... where did I write about CAPTURE in this case - please indicate, please...
              You wrote about “the destruction of everyone who is capable of taking up arms in Ukraine” a couple of posts higher? HOW will you destroy them ALL while sitting on the defensive? logical question? since they, too, will now sit on the defensive... tell me a way in this case to carry out “the destruction of everyone who is capable of taking up arms in Ukraine”?
              1. -15
                9 December 2023 10: 36
                Don’t fidget with the transom and don’t move the dials - the logical justification for your opuses that Russia will not defeat Ukraine is on the barrel. Leave the verbiage to your colleagues
            2. +15
              9 December 2023 11: 13
              No one set as their goal the liquidation of the regime, otherwise on the very first day of the North Military District strikes would have been carried out on Bankova, and Zelensky would not have been provided with security guarantees. What kind of liquidation are we talking about in this case? If all the fighters of Azov, banned in the Russian Federation, were released or exchanged, for some reason promising the masses a trial, then what kind of “denazification” are we talking about? However, in your alternate reality everything may be different. But you are the one doing the verbiage here, not your opponent.
              1. -20
                9 December 2023 11: 54
                1) The regime is a puppet and the liquidation of a particular Zelensky does not mean anything - they will find another puppet.
                2) Does the exchange of dung workers for our prisoners of war somehow interfere with the denazification of the country? In your opinion, successful denazification means abandoning your prisoners of war?! What does the exchange of prisoners of war have to do with the war with the regime?! Now tell me that the militias did not fight the fascists - we also exchanged prisoners!
                __________________)
                Here you two are just standard populists, don’t even mix warm with soft, but consciously and purposefully LIE! But to lie “in the flow” - “everything has disappeared, Putin has amassed and exchanged Medvedchuk, we will all die!”
                No logic, no facts, nothing, the main thing is to tear your throat out is pointless, but loud
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  16. Eug
    +6
    9 December 2023 06: 36
    We need to understand the state of the economies of Russia and NATO countries. As for me, the truce will give NATO countries the opportunity to turn their industry towards war, while even if sanctions are lifted (which is very unlikely or will only affect insignificant and secondary ones), the Russian economy will miss time for economic restructuring and real import substitution... as for me , you need to make the most of the temporary weaknesses of your “partners”. Again, who said that the truce will be real, even if it is signed? Didn't the Minsk agreements teach anyone anything?
  17. 0
    9 December 2023 07: 04
    A direct clash with NATO is highly likely to escalate into a war with the use of nuclear weapons, and NATO understands this. Therefore, this probability is very small. Further, regarding Odessa and Nikolaev: we need to make it before 2025, since the format of relations with the West is clear only until then. Predicting election results in the United States is a thankless task due to the presence of cemetery resources there.
    1. +2
      9 December 2023 13: 43
      Is there at least one comment of yours that does not mention nuclear weapons?
    2. +4
      9 December 2023 13: 43
      Is there at least one comment of yours that does not mention nuclear weapons?
      1. +1
        9 December 2023 17: 14
        Quote: Ezekiel 25-17
        A direct clash with NATO is highly likely to escalate into a war with the use of nuclear weapons, and NATO understands this. Therefore, this probability is very small.

        Quote: ASAD
        Is there at least one comment of yours that does not mention nuclear weapons?

        Nevertheless, in my opinion, the man is right. A large-scale military clash with NATO without the use of nuclear weapons on our part is impossible, therefore, the hour will arrive in response. Everyone understands this very well.
        But there is also a variant of a “low-intensity” conflict. For example, isolated Tribalts (NATO members) with full financial and material assistance from members of the alliance, as well as “vacationers” from that side. This is where our use of nuclear weapons is already problematic, but “hemorrhoids” will be enough for us.
      2. 0
        9 December 2023 20: 32
        Maybe he's a nuclear commentator?! lol
  18. +14
    9 December 2023 07: 49
    SVO turns into a suitcase without a handle and is hard to carry and a shame to throw away.
    1. -1
      9 December 2023 20: 33
      Quote: parusnik
      SVO, turns into a suitcase without a handle and is hard to carry and throw wretchedly.
      Or scary?! winked
      1. +5
        9 December 2023 20: 48
        Or scary?!
        The question is not for me. Erasmus of Rotterdam wrote: “It’s easy to start a war, but it’s hard to end it.” and you never know where it will lead you" (c) Oscar Wilde. Russia, now in a situation: "Where did your path lead me" (c) You, apparently, have not run out of hats yet. We will win. We will throw hats. They will end up in hell, and we, of course, go to heaven, or do you not believe the president that we will go to heaven? I believe.
        1. 0
          10 December 2023 16: 46
          Unfortunately, my comment was interpreted exactly the opposite... sad
  19. +2
    9 December 2023 09: 05
    The author makes the right conclusion. Many do not realize that the North Military District is not just a “conflict,” but a conflict that, if lost, will lead to the collapse of Russia.

    At the same time, it looks very strange when they write about the “adequacy” of the measures taken. If there were “enough” of them, Russia would have won the Northern Military District long ago
    1. 0
      9 December 2023 21: 20
      You won't see the collapse of Russia. It stood before the SVO, and will continue to stand after it.
  20. +4
    9 December 2023 09: 34
    If you don’t crush the reptile now, this definitely won’t happen in the future. They do not hide their goals - to join NATO, acquire nuclear weapons... and try again. How the hell can there be a truce? If it leads to disaster. Positional deadlocks can be overcome one way or another. Can you imagine the USSR in 1942-43 deciding to go for a “freeze”? And our Luka, at a certain moment, will also have to decide whether to intervene or wait until they come to us. I hope it won't be too late.
  21. +9
    9 December 2023 10: 16
    As in 14, “experts” explained to us that we couldn’t join because NATO would attack, then they talked about sanctions, that’s why Minsk is needed. Well, time has passed and we see what happened. Now they will again justify to us why we need to agree as is.
  22. +6
    9 December 2023 10: 32
    Among patriotic bloggers and military officers, sentiments prevail that can be characterized by a quote from military volunteer Roman Alekhine:
    “There cannot be even a hint of a peace treaty without the returned regions within their administrative borders, but no less important - without the Nikolaev and Odessa regions.”


    Only a soldier in a trench on the front line has the moral right to make such statements.
    A whole caste of military correspondents and volunteer bloggers has emerged, whose material well-being depends on the continuation of the SVO, even if we assume that they are all crystal honest people (there are some, but I saw how a lot of equipment was purchased at the 2nd price), their income depends from telegram channels, as well as status, which also warms the soul.
    The same Alekhine was given a summons on October 19 last year and was declared fit, but due to the outbreak of a medical campaign, the blogger was not mobilized.
    1. +6
      9 December 2023 17: 48
      Quote: zharyoff
      Society is waiting for complete victory, i.e. liquidation of the state of Ukraine


      Judging by the polls, fewer and fewer people are ready to go to the Polish border. Z from cars and "We can do it again!" have also disappeared almost everywhere...
  23. -10
    9 December 2023 11: 23
    Taking into account the fact that yesterday the president announced his participation in the elections, I would not be surprised that in order to win these elections, it is necessary to achieve victory in the Northern Military District. Society is waiting for complete victory, i.e. liquidation of the state of Ukraine. So that it doesn't exist. If this does not happen by March 17, then the people’s confidence in the thesis that only with this president will we win will be shaken. Therefore, I’m looking forward to a general battle this winter. And Victory
    1. +6
      9 December 2023 16: 39
      Wow, there are still those who believe in fair elections and that victory/defeat will guarantee that everything will change...
  24. +2
    9 December 2023 11: 24
    Everything is somehow far-fetched.
    And the idea of ​​a truce is being pushed, and the media is being frightened by it.
    And these same media have been writing about the “defeat of America” for 10 years now.

    But in reality, USA and NATO, as guarantors of the integrity of Ukraine according to the Yakut deal, just need to save face.
    Ukraine lost - it was itself. Look how much we helped her. We agreed - they say we helped.
    that Ukraine could do something against 1-2 armies in the world - it is clear that no one seriously counted on it.
    But hurray, the media will slip nothing but victories under their noses. yes, translations from all sorts of strange bloggers and media, such as a “military watch store”
    1. +7
      9 December 2023 11: 38
      If the blitzkrieg fails, it always ends in defeat. This is shown by historical experience. WWI. The blitzkrieg of Germany in the West did not pass, it turned into defeat. The blitzkrieg of the Republic of Ingushetia did not pass in East Prussia, Soviet Russia had to conclude the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk, there was nowhere to go. WWII.Europe .Blitzkrieg was a success. USSR. Blitzkrieg was not a success. Surrender. Our time. Russia’s blitzkrieg was not a success. They are talking about negotiations.
      1. +2
        9 December 2023 12: 59
        Well, that's not entirely true. Even if the blitz is thwarted, this does not mean defeat. In Chechnya, the blitz did not happen, as Mercedes Pasha promised, but in the end the separatists were defeated.
        We also thought about a blitz with the Finns in the fall of ’39, but it didn’t work out, but in March ’40 they finally put the pressure on. But negotiations are not going anywhere, all wars end.
        1. +2
          9 December 2023 17: 21
          Quote: Glagol1
          Well, that's not entirely true. Even if the blitz is thwarted, this does not mean defeat.

          There is no defeat, but the failure of the company and major losses - yes.
          Blitzkrieg is always a high-risk operation. The reward for the risk will be achieving the goal with the least losses, the payback if the operation fails is large losses and the need to start all over again, but with an enemy prepared for such a situation. Your examples are quite suitable for justification.
  25. -11
    9 December 2023 11: 32
    Quote: ROSS 42
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    oh, just take a look at the real GDP plans and the Russian General Staff...what lies on the surface well covers what lies in the depths.

    There is only one plan - to stay in power by any means, as they have been demonstrating to us since 1992...

    so the point is that it is better to have ways to stay in power and not be afraid to rule, than to get the power to shit your pants out of fear that you will have to rule, and cede power to a competitor, as Zyuganov did by winning the elections and ceding power to Yeltsin. Moreover, Zyuganov constantly climbs into the presidency, but already knowing that he will not have to experience the nightmare of the winner in the presidential elections of Russia again. And you say that clowns are only in politics in Ukraine...
    Who else is there - Mironov or the Yabloko members? I beg you... Speaking about the vision of geopolitics and Russia's place in the modern world, only Zhirinovsky could compete with Putin. I will say more, Zhirinovsky may have seen further and deeper, but he died more than once as citizens of Russia and without reproaching them for choosing the wrong President for themselves after Yeltsin.
    All the Great Rulers of Russia used many ways to stay in power and manage to accomplish great things for Russia. The Great Ivan the Terrible and Peter the Great and Catherine the Great and the Great Stalin did the same. Although there were always real wolves around them ready to gnaw them and take away power, and not such that the power they received was taken and given away, like this Zyuganov. So Putin, having many ways to be in power, so far uses only one - the trust of the majority of the people of Russia... History will show that Putin may also deserve the name Great
    1. +2
      9 December 2023 18: 44
      Yes, my friend, you are an ardent monarchist, judging by your statements... and you cite tsars as an example... but the biggest problem in all of this is that we don’t have a monarchy, and we don’t have a CPSU, but we do have capitalism... and with such a “confinement” on one person, when he is gone... and sooner or later he will be gone - today's problems may seem like kindergarten - and do you think this is very good for the country? Why is it good?
      1. 0
        9 December 2023 20: 37
        That commentator either has a serious case (if he is a monarchist) or a serious case of trolling (which is more likely). winked
  26. +4
    9 December 2023 12: 02
    Expect: there are still months before the elections, but we have already lost them - the passive cannot win, we have legitimized our passive status with the latest amendments to the constitution.
    The goal of solving the problem at its roots was not found on the outskirts. Triune national unity is more dangerous than NATO. Accordingly, the state of war with the united West with no response to its aggression is hidden, martial law is not introduced, and there is no mobilization behavior of society.
    There is a wait. For example, when society gets tired and readily agrees to freezing. To restore economic friendship with “partners”. It’s not only our people who are naive, but the government too, how it will pay back to the West for its naivety is scary to think about. There are two options - either creativity (the ability is lost), or sale.
  27. +1
    9 December 2023 12: 47
    I think that the 404th will be given a chance to launch counter-offensive 2.0 in May 2024. By this time, they will lower the conscription age to 17 years, receive about 60 pilots, and accumulate missiles and shells. And they will trample again. And this will be the moment of truth for us. If there is a counterattack again, it will become clear by the end of summer. And then - the presidential ones in the striped country, where most likely they will ride a can. I look forward to negotiations next winter. Not earlier.
  28. +5
    9 December 2023 14: 14
    If the Republicans win, the conflict will either be frozen for a long time (because military supplies to Kyiv will stop; the Republicans are already voting against it), or some kind of peace treaty will be concluded.

    Republicans are not against military supplies to the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
    They demand that in addition to aid to Israel and Ukraine, Biden begins to resolve the border issue with Mexico. Biden doesn’t want to, since historically migrants are one of the “pillars” of the Democratic Party. IMHO, by February 2024 the issue of “60 billion for Ukraine” will be resolved. In general, the shutdown has already become a national sport for the US federal government. And here the question arises: “to what extent will Europe itself be able to support the Armed Forces of Ukraine” - and this is not a small measure.

    In general, the hope for “good for Moscow” Republicans should have been completely buried under Trump, when Simonyan demanded champagne and the US flag in Moscow. Historically, it was the Democrats who were in favor of negotiations with Moscow, the Republicans - “hold may beer, guys” - who were in favor of shooting and weapons wherever possible.

    In October, the EU split as war broke out in the Middle East. Faster than you can say “Ho! Ho! Ho!”, the prospect of Donald Trump returning to power in America has gone from a “can you imagine if” scenario to a “what should we do when” scenario. The unity that allowed Europe to survive in the early days of the conflict is no longer as reliable as it was.”
    There is an interesting discussion going on here.
    Europeans (primarily in Germany) began to discuss the question “why Europe, 500 million people, should depend so much in defense matters on the United States, where there are 350 million.” well, comparisons in industry, etc.
    So far, IMHO, there is a consensus “let’s continue to slowly cook the frog”, “again we’ll give 200-300 tanks 500-600 BRT/IFV and 200 guns for the Ukrainian Armed Forces in 2024.” (see the next speech by M. Reisner). And the question is being discussed: “let’s double the supplies for the Ukrainian Armed Forces, let them try with the F16 as well.” IMHO - they may leave the option “enough for defense, not enough for the offensive of the Ukrainian Armed Forces” for reasons that are unpleasant for us.
    1. +3
      9 December 2023 15: 45
      Quote: Wildcat
      In general, the hope for “good for Moscow” Republicans should have been completely buried under Trump

      The difference is that the Republicans will be more inclined to a truce (although it is not a fact that they will agree to this), the globalist Democrats will keep the conflict in a long, sluggish stage so that the Russian Federation bleeds to death and bears the economic costs.
      1. +2
        9 December 2023 16: 31
        that the Republicans will be more inclined to a truce (although it is not a fact that they will agree to this)
        I would clarify a little: Republicans do not need Biden to win anywhere. They need to show before the elections that Biden is losing everywhere, from Ukraine/Israel to domestic politics and the economy. This is a minimum task.
        And the maximum task is a Republican president in 2024, who will solve all problems. Republican Trump liked Tomahawks and AC130 under DeiresZor as a solution; Republican Reagan was simply going to bomb Russia (I was joking... probably)

        https://youtu.be/kifJ_mQdpZA

        Unfortunately, they have a consensus regarding the Russian Federation.
  29. BAI
    -2
    9 December 2023 15: 04
    There cannot be even a hint of a peace treaty without the returned regions within their administrative boundaries,

    Russia has no other option. The regions are included in the Constitution within these boundaries. Not releasing them = admitting that UKRAINE CONQUERED THE TERRITORIES OF RUSSIA. This is a military defeat.
    1. +10
      9 December 2023 15: 40
      Quote: BAI
      Russia has no other option. The regions are included in the Constitution within these boundaries. Don't release them

      The Constitution in the Russian Federation is just a dirty rag that everyone and everyone is wiping themselves with. It also says about a social state, about a secular state, and about two presidential terms.
      So if the Russian authorities receive the coveted truce on the LBS, which will at least de facto secure the corridor to Crimea, then they will immediately declare it a great victory. And hundreds of authors of articles and bots in the comments will foam at the mouth to prove that this is actually the case.
      Another thing is that this truce still needs to be achieved as long as neither the enemy nor the West behind it shows any inclination towards it.
  30. +8
    9 December 2023 17: 48
    After reading the comments, I can say that I am pleased with the significant decrease in the number of rants on the site.
    It seems people are starting to realize something.
  31. +2
    9 December 2023 17: 50
    Quote: Belisarius
    Republicans will be more willing to truce


    Yeah. Before the elections. After the elections (like any politicians) they will change their minds dramatically. Both Republicans and Democrats consider us enemies.
  32. -5
    9 December 2023 18: 08
    Crazy hat.....
    Expect gifts after Christmas, on your anniversary and before Putin's elections.
    We will fight with NATO on the territory of Ukraine
  33. +1
    10 December 2023 05: 35
    In general, the Russian army has been on the defensive for many months. And it’s as if he’s not going to attack. There will be a freeze and in the future everything may happen again. We need a new commander-in-chief, otherwise no luck.
    1. +1
      10 December 2023 14: 10
      Winter will show how ready the Russian army is for an offensive. A couple of months and the dispute is resolved. If there is no offensive, then our affairs are bad. So there are no weapons. And mobilization will not rust under new weapons.
  34. +1
    10 December 2023 13: 36
    "A truce in Ukraine or a direct clash with NATO: what can Russia expect in 2024"???
    Yes, and there is no need to guess TRUCE....
    The Americans will not allow our brilliant headquarters to “conflict” with NATO. Salaries will stop being paid.
  35. 0
    10 December 2023 21: 02
    The issue of concluding a truce has always been important for the warring countries. These are the words Churchill said on January 18, 1945. “What should be our position in dealing with the insidious enemy...... There must be unconditional surrender, or we must conclude a truce with the enemy, thereby giving him the opportunity to start a new war in a few years.”
  36. +2
    10 December 2023 22: 24
    An extremely reasonable and sensible article on the development of further events in Ukrainian territories...
    Unfortunately, the moment for the Russian Federation to achieve its political goals and objectives in the neighboring problematic “state” - quickly, militarily (Rrraz and kings!) - has been missed...
    And not through the fault of the RF Armed Forces... (Alas, this obvious failure occurred as a result, we should just call a spade a spade, as a result of the mediocre inability and betrayal of our politicians...)

    In the current situation... - only by military means... - it is no longer possible to solve the Ukrainian problem...
    And it seems that the Russian Federation will have to come to terms with some foreign policy circumstances and situations that will arise in the near future on its external borders...

    ...But in Modern Times - the World is changing at tremendous speed... And this can have quite positive consequences for the Russian Federation.
    And first of all, in the case of a competent and successful domestic policy (Which is unlikely...), and in a certain external situation favorable for Russia - the probability of which is quite high... The Russian Federation will be able not only to regain all its lost political trump cards and very to adequately solve the problem of Ukrainian territories... But also to acquire new advantageous positions in the World...

    However, this most serious problem will undoubtedly be solved by Russia (In one form or another...) - sooner or later, and in any case...
    ...The ONLY QUESTION IS THE TIME AND PRICE of resolving this already historical issue for Russia...
  37. DO
    +1
    10 December 2023 23: 36
    Perhaps the answer to the questions of the article under discussion will not be long in coming. Because in the coming weeks, and maybe even days, a NATO blockade of the Gulf of Finland for Russian shipping cannot be ruled out.
    The path chosen by the Russian leadership to resolve this hypothetical crisis would, in essence, be the main answer to the questions of the article under discussion.
    1. 0
      11 December 2023 14: 44
      This is an act of war, I’m sure that the Balts are shouting “come on” at the public, but in their offices they are pushing their horns. This chess game is easy to predict.
      1. The Gulf of Finland is being closed to us, we are conducting a ground operation in Estonia.
      2. Lithuanian transit is closed to us, we are conducting the Sulvalki unblocking operation.
      3. The Danes are closing their straits to us, we are mining them and dismantling all the oil and gas pipelines at the bottom of the Baltic and bottom cables into their component parts.
      We have something to answer. There is no need to be afraid of Article 5 of NATO, then they won’t interfere. We can create such chaos in the Baltic that it won’t seem enough, and then Poland, Germany, Sweden... Oil will be 150, gas will be 2000, industry will begin to fail.
  38. +1
    13 December 2023 09: 09
    the author is right about the jingoistic patriots, we don’t know how to take cities with a population of over a million, we have problems with personnel reserves and weapons... and we can’t take Nikolaev, Odessa and Kharkov... anyone who doesn’t understand this is either a bad person or a stubborn media ... therefore we have very unimportant prospects, which for a long time will take away human and financial resources from the country, exactly what the West, and not only the West, needs... the same China, sensing our weakness, dictates prices for raw materials And so on
  39. 0
    14 December 2023 23: 18
    Quote from Uncle Lee
    Putin said that he will participate in elections in 24...

    And you didn’t say anything about the year 30?