"Stugna" and other killers. We are waiting for the activation of Ukrainian saboteurs

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"Stugna" and other killers. We are waiting for the activation of Ukrainian saboteurs

Well, on the ground, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are getting hit on the nose more and more often in one direction or another. I often read messages from LBS and get the impression that nature is only on the side of the Russians. There are mice, and slush, and the disappearance of the green stuff, but this does not stop ours from advancing.

Alas, the difficulties are mutual. It's difficult for everyone equally. Only the defenders sit in prepared trenches and dugouts, while the attackers have to overcome mud and puddles on their own belly. So in this case, nature acts as the enemy. And then there was a record storm that damaged the defense system of the Crimean coast...



Of course, coastal defense units are making every effort to restore the system as quickly as possible, but...

Today I decided to remind you of one unit of the Main Intelligence Directorate, which is becoming a serious threat to the safety of Crimeans. No, this unit cannot (yet) carry out serious operations, but it is quite capable of causing minor mischief.

I’m talking about the special purpose battalion of the Main Intelligence Directorate of Ukraine “Stugna” and other similar formations. And General Budanov has enough of them at his disposal. This is the Paragon group, the Shaman battalion, and the Artan group. Many of these groups and battalions already have experience in conducting combat operations with landings on the enemy’s coast, in particular in the Crimea and on the left bank of the Dnieper.

The head of the Main Intelligence Directorate constantly talks about the ambitious goals of such units. They will liberate the peninsula... They will destroy the coastal defense system of Crimea and provide the possibility of a mass landing of the Ukrainian Armed Forces from the sea. They will ensure supplies for the “partisan detachments” of the Crimean “patriots” and similar global goals.

The special forces themselves understand perfectly well, and sometimes voice in foreign media, the real goals and objectives of their units: to kill Russian soldiers and “separatists”, understand – civilians, to create an information picture for the Western public and to look for holes in the coastal defense system. For more than what Budanov is talking about, the units simply have neither the strength nor the means.

Why did you choose Stugna?


Yes, simply because our mutual friend, to whose articles I have already referred, published a bravura article about the heroes of this particular battalion for the American reader. The story was told by the Stugna commander Dmitry Linko.

It seems to me that it was from this battalion that the West decided to make heroes. Moreover, Stugna includes quite a lot of really famous athletes in Ukraine. They were identified from photographs and video materials that appeared in the press, or posted by the unit’s fighters as evidence of the success of their operations.

For example, Christian Udarov, a member of the Kyiv organization “Tradition and Order” (TiP), vice-president of the Ukrainian Karate Federation. Famous athlete, karateka, multiple champion of Ukraine. Since “Stugna” was originally formed as a terrorist defense battalion, the unit also includes citizens of other states.

For example, in the center of the photo from Crimea with the unit’s flag is a citizen of Belarus Igor Yankov. A football fan of Dynamo Minsk fled to Ukraine after becoming involved in several criminal cases; he participated in mass protests against the election of Alexander Lukashenko.

Why should we pay attention to saboteurs?


People first started talking about Stugna after an attack on a Russian unit on the left bank of the Dnieper two months after our troops left Kherson. It was then, in January 2023, that the saboteurs made their first foray. Then two groups of saboteurs, numbering up to 20 people, landed on the left bank and allegedly fired at the headquarters of the Russian unit in the building of a local restaurant.

Then, having lost several people, the saboteurs successfully fled to the right bank. Those who monitor the Ukrainian media remember how the commander denied losses. By the way, this still happens to this day. But even from the video posted by the GUR, it is clear that there are clearly less than ten people in the boat that is leaving the shore. There were initially two boats of ten people each. Six or seven people came out in the boat with the video. Where are the three?

But this is not the main thing. The main thing is the time when the saboteurs acted. Winter, January. That is, it turned out to be possible to land on the coast in winter. Or in cold weather. This is where, it seems to me, the idea of ​​landing saboteurs in October came about.

On the one hand, it is already cold, and the coast guard will consider that landing is a priori impossible. On the other hand, if you use high-speed jet skis, there is a chance of successfully completing the task. Which, in principle, is what happened.

According to the Stugna commander, the raid to the coast lasted somewhat longer than planned. Ten hours on Sea-Doo GTX 300 jet skis. The boat is quite suitable for transporting one saboteur with equipment. But even with not very serious waves and an impressive load, such a boat is prone to capsize. Which happened periodically.

Be that as it may, the Ukrainian saboteurs carried out a PR campaign. Remember the reaction of the Western media to this raid? What about the reaction in Ukraine itself? After all, this was presented as a great achievement of Ukrainian intelligence officers, as an opportunity to spoil the Russians in Crimea almost on an ongoing basis. Here's what Linko said about this:

“Strategically, our goal is to liberate Crimea. But tactically we have several goals. One of them is to actually destroy as many enemies as possible. And another tactical goal is rather ideological. We need to show the resistance or people in Crimea who support Ukraine that we are moving forward and that the Ukrainian flag, despite the fact that it has not been in Crimea for so many years, has returned to the peninsula.”

Fishless fish and cancer


Let me return to where I started this material. To the situation at LBS.

It is already clear today that the Armed Forces of Ukraine, like the whole of Ukraine, are facing difficult times. There are few shells, we need to save money. The vaunted American Abrams are being taken back in an effort to preserve their image as “great.” There are problems with the call. The key components of the defense are cracking at all seams. And also the upcoming winter joys associated with frosts and other delights of winter.

Kyiv needs victories like air. Any, albeit unnecessary, will help. There are no such victories on land, and none are expected. And at sea too. But there remained, at least in the form of an illusion, at least some chance of success. Maybe that’s why the Armed Forces of Ukraine today are sending soldiers to Krynki for slaughter. They are ground up, and new ones keep coming and coming.

I recently saw a prisoner’s story about how he became a stormtrooper. During the evacuation from the left bank, he saw that his comrade had been wounded. Helped me get into the boat. Upon arrival on the right bank, he received a stick from the company commander for this and was transferred to attack aircraft. True, he was “lucky”. At the very beginning of the battle he was shell-shocked, so he sat quietly in the trench. And then he surrendered to ours. The rest are lying there, in positions. Now in the form of shooting rests for new additions...

I think we should expect an intensification of sabotage work.

For this purpose, judging by some signs, the GUR has created a fairly extensive network of disposable agents. The same women who, out of the blue, try to set fire to military registration and enlistment offices or shout Nazi slogans in the middle of the street. People with Russian passports, receiving all the benefits and payments due to Russian citizens, who bought housing at the expense of the state... And sniffling: “I won’t do it again,” when they are caught...

Yesterday there was information that units of the SMERSH type from the Great Patriotic War period had been created in the border regions. I don’t know if this is true, or if someone was wishful thinking. But even if this is a fake, it needs to be implemented in the near future. In wartime conditions, counterintelligence agencies specialized for wartime are needed.

Now someone will start screaming about democracy and other Western ideals. There is no democracy in war. Neither in the army, nor in the rear. The opportunity to “talk and discuss” is a privilege of peaceful, “fat” time. And pity for criminals is also a privilege in peacetime. “If the enemy does not surrender, he is destroyed” is a brilliant phrase of a great man, under whose leadership the fascists were once already twisted.

Well, the “combat divers” from “Stugna” and other units of the Main Intelligence Directorate are enemies who will stop at nothing and no one. Their job is to kill. It doesn't matter who, the main thing is to kill. And such people should not be spared. The grave, as the Russian proverb says, will correct the hunchback... More precisely, only the grave...
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  1. +10
    7 December 2023 04: 26
    To prevent sabotage, you need your own SMERSH. Decisive and tough, so that not a single one is left without an answer. Good must come with fists. Open your fist and everything will fall
    1. BAI
      +7
      7 December 2023 13: 49
      To prevent sabotage, you need your own SMERSH.

      Well, they created it. Just now. Directorate of Military Counterintelligence for New Territories. It will probably cover the border areas as well.
      And after that - a decree on conscription into the FSB troops. Those. they will have their own strength to solve problems.
      The only problem is that they will call up 18 year old boys, and they will be opposed by 30-40 year old muscular men.
      Look, what kind of wild boar was bred in Crimea?
      1. -2
        7 December 2023 17: 21
        As shown by the moronic landing of the GUR special forces in Crimea, where it seems that 2 were killed, and one was taken prisoner (it is likely that the Russian forces also suffered losses, but even if there were an order of magnitude more, say 10-15 fighters, the meaning of such a complex operations). Moreover, they made a mess of a video where one of the fighters yelled something like - Crimea will be Ukrainian, or... deserted. There are also a number of extrajudicial executions of all types, such as the frostbitten Kiva, or Daria Dugina, who rather suffered for her dad, but there is no particular point in removing Dugin, few people in Russia know what he is talking about, except for those phrases that are already said on TV. The murder of a submarine captain, who was suspected of participating in the shelling of Ukraine with Caliber from his submarine, but it turned out that the man was retired and did not participate in the SVO. To undermine the Crimean bridge, they used a driver from Central Asia, who was not even Russian, but in his heart maybe he was generally against the North Military District and all wars and did not deserve to be blown to pieces as a result of the war of countries that probably do not even affect him much. All this and some other incidents and statements by some Ukrainian politicians and security officials will most likely greatly hinder Ukraine in the near, medium term. It may happen that even if Ukraine is able to recapture Crimea and Donbass by military means (which is quite possible in a short time, if the United States piles up a couple of hundred F-16s, 500 M1s, 1000 Bradleys, and even in Europe aircraft, MBTs and armored personnel carriers of the Cold War and the 90s in private warehouses, which are still not taken into account by statistics, but they give the Ukrainians weapons, little by little, obviously it is not in the plans of the West to directly organize the defeat of the RF Armed Forces, as a result of which chaos will begin inside the Russian Federation and other fears of the West), Ukraine they will not trust control over these territories due to the large percentage of Russian speakers and the danger of reprisals from overly motivated security forces and politically motivated justice. Now they are already giving it to “collaborators”, for reposting Z channels, at first they have long terms, and then they change them to VSUshnikov. Which is not European at all. The only operation to destroy the enemy where one can see a reason is the murder of Tatarsky. Tatarsky in the spring of 14th DPR forces were released from the zone where he served time for bank robbery and since then he has fought and shed quite a bit of blood on the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and recently he has been promoting the topic of drones and he himself periodically went to the front and fought with these drones. That is, here the Ukrainians can argue that for them he is a collaborator, a terrorist who killed citizens of Ukraine and poses a danger. But where is Tatarsky,... and where the b.. Kiva?! Or Dugin? The way the front looks now, it doesn’t look like the GUR will be able to develop any successful actions in Crimea, it’s too difficult for the GUR and rather easier for the GRU and FSB to counteract. For now, the greatest danger is posed by naval and medium kamikaze UAVs and Scalp-type missile launchers for the Crimea, since in this matter the Ukrainians have really succeeded greatly, as practice shows, and are probably investing massively in this matter.
      2. 0
        10 December 2023 21: 46
        "...The only problem is that they will call up 18 year old boys, and they will be opposed by 30-40 year old muscular men..."

        You underestimate eighteen-year-olds too much (especially if they are athletes of at least 1st or even 2nd category...
        And I hope that first of all, these guys will be recruited to a well-known organization...
        And you clearly overestimate “pumped up men”...
        External redneckness, as a rule, is still far from being a XNUMX% guarantee of victory in a real battle..., especially in a one-on-one hand-to-hand combat...

        Everything is decided - breathing (endurance), agility and speed of movements, and, most importantly, reaction... Also important is the speed of recovery after a fight...
        In this sense, an eighteen-year-old athletic guy has all the advantages over an order of magnitude older...

        From personal experience ...

        ...In the distant Soviet past - the Police School (And only officers, young men and boys from 20 to 30 years old were trained there..), which then took place in our city, and in which the sambo section was organized, decided to hold citywide competitions, and before that, as if preliminary...
        That is, the coaches agreed, and our Dynamo section of this wrestling sport (students of the ninth and tenth grades) went to fight with the cop officers...)))))))))

        To be honest, we were a little pissed at first... Well, imagine, a huge guy is sitting on the windowsill (with whom you have a meeting on the carpet in a couple of minutes...),
        looks at you, a thin schoolboy, and grins disdainfully...
        Somehow I felt uneasy...
        IT HAPPENED!.. BUT IT FLOATED...

        ...In short, We scattered them like puppies... Moreover, the average fight time was a minute, or, at most, one and a half...
        ...The fight for all prizes, in all weight categories, already took place between schoolchildren (high school students)...

        The head of the school who was watching the competition, an elderly Veteran, had a heart attack...

        Eighteen years, with a normal and athletic lifestyle, is the peak of the organism’s development...
        1. 0
          11 December 2023 18: 26
          Foma_Petrov. (Foma Petrov). Yesterday at 21:46. New is yours -
          1. - "...You underestimate eighteen-year-olds too much (especially if they are athletes of at least 1st or even 2nd category..."
          2. - "...Everything is decided - breathing (endurance), agility and speed of movements, and, most importantly, reaction... Also important is the speed of recovery after a fight..."

          From paragraph 1. you're right. youth. preparedness and good boyish enthusiasm and arrogance"...
          under item 2. In addition to what you indicated:
          - breathing (endurance),
          - agility and speed of movement,
          - and, most importantly, the reaction...
          - Also important is the speed of recovery after a fight..."
          I propose to add:
          a - except for sports.+ professional training in the area of ​​works (let's not confuse sport and war). Sorry for my "French". How to compare - "champagne and "shil""
          b - good moral and psychological preparation in advance(explosions. blood and related...). work on the prospect of "sanitizing" the enemy to "0" with training....(let's not confuse sports and war).
          - let's call it a "feeling of luk" (understanding without unnecessary... and not even "confidence". but KNOWLEDGE ..)

          hi
    2. 0
      8 December 2023 09: 42
      To prevent sabotage, you need your own SMERSH. Decisive and tough, so that not a single one is left without an answer. Good must come with fists. Open your fist and everything will fall

      Maybe goodness should come with the brain? So that ordinary people, those same aunts and their husbands, do not perceive their own state as someone else’s, do not feel powerless and defenseless?
      I don’t justify the burning of military registration and enlistment offices, especially since I don’t understand their meaning. but we need to figure out why this happens.
      Kadyrov plays his videos - more people feel like emigrants in their own country - Kadyrov with his personal guard becomes even more necessary - and so it all spins up... and where will it all end?
      SMERSH was in a different time. A modern smersh would be engaged in squeezing out the business and eliminating everyone who is ordered, so thank God it doesn’t exist.
      What kind of fans of Prigozhin's sledgehammers and Stalin's executions have gathered here? You will suffer from them, don’t you understand?
  2. -3
    7 December 2023 04: 32
    A systematic approach is needed: 1) declaring the Ukrainian special services criminal organizations banned in Russia; 2) destruction of their head offices in Kyiv and other cities of Ukraine by targeted strikes with tactical nuclear weapons; 3) introduction of the death penalty. And so on.
    1. Msi
      +9
      7 December 2023 05: 24
      destruction of their head offices in Kyiv and other cities of Ukraine by targeted strikes with tactical nuclear weapons;

      Why Tiao, also in cities? What an absurd proposal of yours...
      1. 0
        8 December 2023 09: 32
        And after that you will differ extremely unfavorably from any, even the most frostbitten Bandera member - they couldn’t, but you could.
        Have you ever thought about how many tens of thousands of civilians will die after using tactical nuclear weapons in cities?
        “Rus' has enough fools for a hundred years to come” - don’t think that I’m talking about you. Don't think at all.
    2. +6
      7 December 2023 20: 27
      Quote: Ezekiel 25-17
      precision strikes of tactical nuclear weapons

      And then I realized that any comment would look pathetic against the background of this plan.
  3. +12
    7 December 2023 05: 15
    Just in time, there was talk about SMERSH... in the Moscow region they shot Kiva... so demonstratively... brazenly... indicative of the special services... Budanov adopted terror against civilians both in Russia and in Ukraine... it’s depressing that there is no response regarding people from Budanov’s entourage...the Kremlin’s toothlessness against those responsible on Bankova is depressing...crimes should not go unpunished.
    When will the murderers of Daria Dugina and our other citizens killed on a tip by Budanovsky terrorists be punished?
    Is it really impossible for our court to pass a verdict and give an order to capture the killers, alive or dead?
    1. +21
      7 December 2023 05: 28
      Agree. And also, well, it’s simply freezing, the position of some of our politicians and deputies when they are asked the question: “why don’t we destroy our enemies in this way?”....What is their answer? They start mumbling that this is not our method, we are not terrorists blah blah blah. This is tough! According to their logic, it turns out that the legendary Soviet intelligence officer GSS Kuznetsov, who destroyed fascist senior officers and generals, is a terrorist? Stashevsky, who liquidated Bandera, is also a terrorist?.... In general, it’s time for all these Budanovs, Mudanovs, etc. act. And act firmly, symmetrically, and even better, proactively.
      1. +3
        7 December 2023 14: 45
        Quote: Black
        and even better, ahead of the curve

        You're just ahead of me!
      2. +2
        7 December 2023 20: 35
        Quote: Black
        And also, well, it’s simply freezing, the position of some of our politicians and deputies when they are asked the question: “why don’t we destroy our enemies in this way?”....What is their answer?

        But because Ukrainians do not kill ministers and deputies. Their victims are military officers, second-tier propagandists, freak defectors. A trifle compared to the background of Strelkov, whom we imprisoned. This war, although not civil, has a distinct class side. Ordinary people in camouflage die en masse and regularly on both sides, intellectual servants - on rare occasions, the upper class - never.
    2. +13
      7 December 2023 05: 54
      Kive - that's where the road is. I am more interested in why the right-wing executioner lived quietly in the Moscow region. Has everyone forgotten his slogan “cotton into the ground”?
      And about terrorists, not saboteurs, but terrorists, they fight out of uniform, Staver mixed warm and soft here - it was said a long time ago. Sabotage groups on the LBS will not survive long - ours are the ones who know how to catch them. But with terrorists it’s more difficult - it’s not written on his face. that he is a Banderaite. He may not be a Ukrainian at all, but a natural cross-bellied Ryazan, like that guy who was attacked by an A-50 at the airfield, they recruited a Russian in Turkey - they transported him through Lithuania, and that’s it, there are no ends to the dill.
      They immediately aimed at terrorist attacks in Russian cities - just remember Kulchitsky! "Blow up train stations and poison wells." For this reason, ours immediately landed him along with the helicopter.
      So, too, stop whining that ours don’t work, they work, as Kulchitsky realized!
      PC: the site slows down when entering text just CRAZY! Sculpted!
      1. +13
        7 December 2023 06: 00
        Kiva is not an angel, of course... but no one is allowed to kill him in our state... and if he was killed, this is only an indicator of the powerlessness of the state and its laws in the face of terrorists from Ukraine... this is very bad... Russia is not Mexico with its drug cartels dictating their power to the state through murder.
        And then can you give a guarantee that some kind of Budanov’s DRG is not now sitting in the Moscow region and is not waiting in the wings?
        1. +7
          7 December 2023 06: 14
          I don’t argue with the fact that ours slapped us in the face. I have another question - why did a convinced right-wing Nazi live in a hotel and not in the zone!
          And about the Budanovsky DRG I will say this - I’m sure that no, the DRG cannot be there, terrorists can... The DRG are military personnel, they fight with weapons in their hands with insignia and in their uniform, they are soldiers. But terrorists look like peaceful people and no conventions apply to them. This time. Two. Do you see exploding houses? And make the dill look Russian. local, more options. than the Czechs had. So they work, they work. Think for yourself
          1. +8
            7 December 2023 09: 53
            Quote from Bingo
            I have another question - why did a convinced right-wing Nazi live in a hotel and not in the zone!

            Are you convinced? Or keeping his nose to the wind? Who will sort them out, these shoe changers... Also ask why Aksyonov is in his post as head of Crimea.
            1. -5
              7 December 2023 10: 44
              Quote: Hyperion
              Who will sort them out there, these shoe changers... Also ask why Aksyonov is in his post as head of Crimea

              Gee laughing

              Look who's interviewing. ATR, Crimean Tatars.

              Would you - would you risk telling them something different? wink
              1. +5
                7 December 2023 12: 34
                On L. Budzhurova’s program “Gravity”, “Dialogue of Crimean Historians” on March 22, 2013, I personally said that Crimea is part of Russia, and was included in Ukraine illegally, it was possible to say, O. Buzina spoke and wrote a lot, and appeared on TV.
                1. -2
                  7 December 2023 12: 41
                  Quote: Sergei Fonov
                  I personally said that Crimea is part of Russia

                  I'm happy for you. But you are not Aksenov (who is a politician), and not even Hyperion (to whom I specifically asked the question).
                  1. +1
                    7 December 2023 14: 51
                    You can’t imagine how glad I am that you are happy for me.
                  2. 0
                    7 December 2023 15: 19
                    It was possible to get on TV in Ukraine by accident, however, even now it is very difficult to write a comment, but literally everything could be said, by the way, the Crimean militia (self-defense) was created as a counterbalance to the Maidan, Aksyonov agreed to lead it, there is an interview with him on the Internet, he is quite honest about everything sets out.
                    1. -1
                      7 December 2023 19: 10
                      Repellent! I received a message, it became very scary because such people dare to make threats, this is not Ukraine, and the main thing here is not speculation, but historical truth, and it is not a problem to find the truth about what and how happened in Crimea on the Internet. Secondly, why did you decide that I dream of communicating with you, do not create illusions about yourself. Your "GGY" speaks about your level.
              2. 0
                7 December 2023 16: 24
                Quote: Repellent
                Look who's interviewing. ATR, Crimean Tatars.

                Would you - would you risk telling them something different?

                Firstly: this video contains not only footage from ATR, and secondly: I doubt that the Crimean Tatars like the assertion that Crimea belongs to Ukraine. They dream about the revival of the Crimean Khanate, or about coming under the wing of Turkey.
                1. -1
                  7 December 2023 16: 53
                  Quote: Hyperion
                  this video contains not only footage from ATR

                  No need to wag: is there ATR there? Eat. It's enough Yes

                  Quote: Hyperion
                  I doubt that the Crimean Tatars like the assertion that Crimea belongs to Ukraine

                  There is no need to distort: ​​the question does not propose a choice between the “Khanate” and Ukraine, but between Russia and Ukraine. In this case, Ukraine is clearly preferable for the “Crimean Tatars”. This was clearly demonstrated by their activities after the events of 2014 in Crimea.
                  1. -1
                    7 December 2023 17: 09
                    Quote: Repellent
                    No need to wag: is there ATR there? Eat. It's enough

                    That's it, there is no need to wobble, focusing on footage from ATR, and ignoring footage from UkrTV.
                    Quote: Repellent
                    There is no need to distort: ​​the question does not propose a choice between the “Khanate” and Ukraine, but between Russia and Ukraine.

                    To distort is to justify Aksenov’s anti-Russian rhetoric by imagining that the Crimean Tatars are allegedly threatening and forcing them to speak against their will. It’s as if, if it weren’t for the Crimean Tatars in the studio, the Ukrainian (at that time) politician would have been a nightingale talking about love for Russia.
                    1. -2
                      7 December 2023 17: 11
                      It's clear. There will be no dialogue, since the opponent is talking to the mirror.

                      My condolences. Friendly Yes laughing
                      1. -2
                        7 December 2023 17: 25
                        Quote: Repellent
                        It's clear. There will be no dialogue, since the opponent is talking to the mirror.

                        There will be no dialogue, since the Crimean Tatars may not like it.

                        Minem kaigy urtaklashuym, dusty. Yes
          2. +2
            7 December 2023 15: 31
            He used to be a Nazi until he switched sides. And now he is a respected partner.
        2. +1
          8 December 2023 09: 54
          and if he was killed, this is only an indicator of the powerlessness of the state and its laws in the face of terrorists from Ukraine...

          Well, in general, yes, the impression is unpleasant, but the state can take revenge and show its strength by harshly imprisoning someone with a poster or a price tag for many years.
      2. +6
        7 December 2023 11: 54
        Quote from Bingo
        at least remember Kulchitsky! "Blow up train stations and poison wells." For this reason, ours immediately landed him along with the helicopter.

        It seems that the one who shot down Kulchitsky is sitting in our prison. And many of the heroes of those times were killed by mysterious saboteurs. Only saboteurs can fight against ours, but against them it immediately begins that our methods are not ours. Now I have a company of mobilized residents of Zhitomir to cover these are our methods, but to cover Budanov’s mansion is not
        1. +3
          7 December 2023 15: 21
          Quote from alexoff
          Now I have a company of mobilized residents of Zhitomir to cover these are our methods, but to cover Budanov’s mansion is not

          It’s high time to demolish their elite, expensive houses, those huts with swimming pools and mistresses.. ... Material damage is such a thing for the glory of Ukrainians, worse than becoming an object for sodomy... Boo ga ga.... laughing
      3. Aag
        +3
        7 December 2023 14: 37
        "... PeeCee: the site slows down when entering text just CRAZY! Sculpts!..."
        And sometimes it doesn’t allow you to rate comments.
        1. 0
          7 December 2023 19: 16
          The editor didn’t give him anything, but the plus didn’t pass.
    3. -2
      7 December 2023 06: 27
      Let the investigation work, otherwise it may turn out that Kiva was killed just like Kirov because of a woman.
      1. -1
        7 December 2023 06: 41
        Quote: Architect
        Let the investigation work, otherwise it may turn out that Kiva was killed just like Kirov because of a woman.

        So who is against it... what I am for the investigation to identify all those involved in this crime... the main thing is that it does not drag on for 20 years.
        How is the investigation going with the bombing of Prigozhin’s plane, in which the crew and associates of Yevgeny Viktorovich died?
      2. +2
        7 December 2023 09: 24
        Quote: Architect
        It may turn out that Kiva was killed just like Kirov because of a woman.

        Or for the old days, like Slashchova.
        1. 0
          7 December 2023 12: 31
          Quote from cpls22
          Or for the old days, like Slashchova.

          Exactly. I heard the news yesterday and my eyes widened. The fact that this one was brought down did not surprise me; I went nuts when I found out that he was calmly walking around in the Moscow region! Not in a striped robe!
          1. +5
            7 December 2023 13: 27
            Quote from Bingo
            I went nuts when I found out that he was quietly walking around in the Moscow region! Not in a striped robe!

            and gave speeches on central TV. Moreover, the intelligence, attitude and vocabulary remained the same, only the vector changed. With such supporters there is no need for enemies.
    4. 0
      8 December 2023 09: 47
      Is it really impossible for our court to pass a verdict and give an order to capture the killers, alive or dead?

      You can give any order. it just needs to be done. Which is somewhat more difficult than beating prisoners in a pre-trial detention center.
  4. -7
    7 December 2023 05: 48
    Quote from Msi
    destruction of their head offices in Kyiv and other cities of Ukraine by targeted strikes with tactical nuclear weapons;

    Why Tiao, also in cities? What an absurd proposal of yours...

    Because they tried to destroy Budanov in Kyiv with a Dagger with a conventional warhead: it didn’t work; the head offices of the SBU are located in major cities of Ukraine; and because only tactical nuclear weapons combined with the Dagger are guaranteed to hit protected bunkers at great depths.
    1. +11
      7 December 2023 06: 08
      TNW is excluded in principle...this is the last weapon before traveling to heaven, as GDP said.
      Budanov does not have tactical nuclear weapons... but he manages to carry out brazen terrorist attacks in Russia... so this is a question of the sophistication of the mind and professionalism of the special services and the political will of the Kremlin.
    2. old
      -5
      7 December 2023 10: 02
      Budanov is a talking doll whose task is to voice texts written by the British owners. If a brick falls on your head, they will find another one the same day.
  5. +1
    7 December 2023 06: 23
    Well, here, as always, either everything is gone or there is a build-up. In fact, many of these saboteurs, who have not been saboteurs for a long time, simply live peacefully; the main thing for them is to escape from Ukraine, and it is no longer necessary to die for it or rot in prison.
  6. +4
    7 December 2023 06: 23
    The State Duma recently adopted a number of important and useful laws. But with regard to lifting the moratorium on the use of the death penalty for terrorism, treason, etc., I was not concerned. The situation requires doing this yesterday.
    1. -3
      7 December 2023 09: 34
      But with regard to lifting the moratorium on the use of the death penalty for terrorism, treason, etc., I was not concerned. The situation requires doing this yesterday.

      Aren’t you afraid to end up under this same article later?
      1. +2
        7 December 2023 15: 15
        Son, everyone is afraid of death! And I am in a country where there is no moratorium on the death penalty. But you really should think about where to run as the Russian army approaches.
        1. +1
          7 December 2023 15: 23
          Yes, I’m no son) I’m a native of the Samara region. You just need to be afraid of your desires sometimes - they can come true. SMERSH without ideology in the country - there will be chaos, and worse than “3 million denunciations under Stalin”
  7. +6
    7 December 2023 06: 34
    No matter how much they tell us that Russia does not use terrorist methods, it is simply necessary to reset the top of the Ukrainian Reich. Terrorists must be fought with their own methods. It's time for the Supreme Commander to remember his words: "...to soak in the toilet...".
    1. old
      -7
      7 December 2023 10: 04
      We are not fighting with the Ukrainian Reich, but with the CIA and Mi-6 and we cannot get to their top ones. Bye..
      1. +2
        7 December 2023 15: 25
        Quote: old
        We are not fighting with the Ukrainian Reich, but with the CIA and Mi-6 and we cannot get to their top ones. Bye..

        Can we get to their chain dogs or won’t we?
  8. +4
    7 December 2023 06: 38
    Only the work of SMERSH and execution on the spot can resolve the issue, and it is very relevant...
  9. +7
    7 December 2023 06: 55
    We have experience in the fight against spies and saboteurs dating back to WWII. So it can be applied with modern technology. This is video surveillance, photo traps, photo fixations. And the main thing is patrols in key places, checking documents at the slightest suspicion, searching things and clothing. Anyone who does not have documents or incorrectly issued passes will be detained to determine their identity.
    Crimea definitely needs to be transferred to front-line mode. This is not throwing the National Guard into battle on the front line, but doing their anti-sabotage work. This includes raids in crowded areas and checking of residents in hotels and residential buildings. And working with informants and creating your own network of agents.
    This will also help identify all the loitering people who are not working or studying anywhere. This means they can be drafted into the army, or to dig trenches. soldier bully
  10. -1
    7 December 2023 07: 01
    Absolutely right: “...now someone will start screaming about democracy and other Western ideals...” these are the first probable accomplices of our enemies. It is necessary to pay close attention to them. If they are just fools, the sentence will be shorter, and if they are ideological, it will be longer. Both without the right to pardon.
  11. +4
    7 December 2023 07: 20
    The GUR has created a fairly extensive network of disposable agents
    In this, the GUR has a vast field of activity - they can “plow” for a long time, because there are still enough “zhdunov” in new territories and inadequate sympathizers in Russia itself, as practice shows. The Ukrainian side has become more adept at sabotage activities during the SVO. There are terrorist attacks against significant figures (often civilians), sabotage on the Crimean Bridge, railways (explosions and damage to equipment), attacks on Moscow, Sevastopol, border cities... Therefore, there is still a lot of work to be done for the Russian special services.
  12. -1
    7 December 2023 11: 41
    Killing Kiva is a pattern! for he tried to sit on two chairs. Today and here he says one thing, and tomorrow and there he says the opposite. He even surpassed Zhirik in this. I wouldn’t be surprised if our guys slammed him down
  13. 0
    7 December 2023 14: 01
    What does this article have to do with the “Armament” section???
  14. 0
    7 December 2023 14: 21
    These methods were developed back in the Second World War. And we need to activate our scouts for raids in the rear. 404 doesn't really like such attacks.
  15. 0
    7 December 2023 16: 24
    Unfortunately, due to the superficially tendentious coverage of the stated topic, you are once again convinced that the author retains his role - agitation and propaganda.
    As for the question of SMERSH, raised in the article and some comments, it should be noted that a reasonable answer to it has already been given more than once. We have military counterintelligence and that says it all, you can rename it whatever you want, it won’t change anything under the current conditions.
    And yes, the article has nothing special (or anything) to do with the “Armament” section...
  16. 0
    7 December 2023 16: 37
    “Stugna” includes quite a few really famous athletes in Ukraine

    Are there many of our athletes at the front? Biathletes, for example.
    It turns out that they are kind of not ours?
    1. -2
      7 December 2023 16: 43
      Quote: kakvastam
      Are there many of our athletes at the front? Biathletes, for example

      Are they the ones who can shoot small rifles at 50 meters? Why are they at the front? wink
  17. 0
    7 December 2023 20: 55
    This entire information “flow” of bravura articles and notes about the “elusive Joes” from Budanov’s units will abruptly stop as soon as there is sufficiently noticeable opposition to their work on our line of contact and in our rear, with the obligatory lethal outcome of the Ukrainian “participants”, without the right for legal proceedings and other “democratic tricks”. A saboteur, on our territory, should not have the right to protect HIS life... Now, in conditions of war, for a saboteur, spy, saboteur, a wartime law should apply, which does not imply protection of their life...
  18. 0
    8 December 2023 18: 55
    Actually, during the war, Smersh worked mainly in the front-line zone. And we have such a front-line zone with a special status.