Ural francs - the past that did not become the future

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We live in the only reality. Really what's around us. And therefore, very often, we cannot assess what would have happened to the country if its leaders had made a different decision.

Mikhail Gorbachev was in power for almost six years. Total 6 years. And during this time with his accomplices ditched superpower. So fast.

Vladimir Putin has been at the head of Russia for more than 12 years. What would happen to Russia, come to power another person? We can only guess.

According to the scenario of our geopolitical "partners", Russia should have been dismembered. This process was to be launched by the intrusion of Basayev’s gangs into Dagestan in the autumn of 1999.

Ural francs - the past that did not become the future

The political and military liquidation of Russia was preceded by economic preparation. The future decay was laid economically - a little less than a year before the invasion of Dagestan, the GKO market “suddenly” collapsed and the August default of 1998 happened. And shortly before the discount rate of the Central Bank of Russia "Suddenly" increased to 150% in the period of 27 in May 1998 - 4 in June 1998. Right on the eve of the collapse, money became particularly expensive. By chance? Not. It was a conscious preparation of default - the collapse of our economy.


The meaning of this action is the creation of apathy and indifference of citizens to the death of their country. Why is she such where all the time everything collapses and falls? Rehearsed this scenario in the USSR. Remember the shortage of recent years of adjustment? He was artificial. The cars were not unloaded, products were not removed from the factories. Products were thrown into landfills and garbage.

In the summer of 1989, I was in the construction team in the city of Noyabrsk. Personally, he saw fruits and vegetables in the garbage. Quite tolerable quality, by the way. Against the background of the complete absence of them on the shelves of Noyabrsk.

And the USSR was gone. Because so wanted leadership of the USSR.

And Russia is preserved. And develops. Of course, we all want development to go faster. But it was Putin’s actions in the fall of 1999, multiplied by the heroic struggle of the Dagestan militia and our soldiers with the invading gangsters that preserved the integrity of our country. It must not be forgotten. It was Putin who removed the question of the collapse of Russia from the agenda of Russian politics. Not to thank him for this is the height of ingratitude and disrespect.

Why today I remembered this? Because during a trip to Yekaterinburg, my friends gave me a whole collection of Ural francs. I post their image here.

It seems to me important that all citizens of Russia see and remember this past, which did not become our future. Ural Republic with its currency. With its bicameral parliament, copying the legislative body of a separate state, which “accidentally” ended up in the Urals with two chambers, when one is enough for the region.

Many such accidents. By the way, the candidates in the Urals had very distinctive documents, where the “Republic” was directly written.

Certificate candidates

Here they are signs and ghosts of our past, of a failed future. And we need to be careful that this past will never knock on our doors again.










History the appearance of the Ural francs I took with it resource:

Pay attention to the mysterious deaths associated with the release of the Ural francs. Do not forget that "the attempts subsequently made by the regional prosecutor's office to establish the sources of funds spent on payment for the order did not yield any results." That is, no one has figured out where the money came from for printing the currency of the potential Ural Republic.
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  1. YARY
    +5
    18 January 2013 07: 41
    TRAITORS AND NOW AROUND US !!!!
    1. +2
      18 January 2013 07: 47
      But who are the traitors? Why is nobody catching them? Probably still not traitors, but people with different views ... We ourselves would understand what we want ....
      1. +5
        18 January 2013 07: 59
        Quote: older
        And who are the traitors?

        Yes, there are a lot of them, some in London now, others in the Federation Council and the State Duma, and others in the grave already. hi
        1. 0
          18 January 2013 08: 41
          Quote: Alexander Romanov

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          Alexander Romanov RU Today, 07: 59 ↑ new
          - 1 +
          Quote: older
          And who are the traitors?

          Yes, a lot of them, some in London now, others in the Federation Council

          Quote: Bulls.
          The organizers-choreographers of this "Parade of Sovereignties
          Sometimes it makes me laugh because we don’t learn how to find guilty in our troubles somewhere, but in ourselves ... What prevents us from removing those who revolt you so? The law? It turns out that everyone who is not with me is against me ? Or maybe they just go along a neighboring path?
          1. +4
            18 January 2013 09: 07
            It’s just that humans are so arranged that they always blame the cosmic mind, God, traitors, neighbor-ugly blame for their punctures ... But never personally
          2. +4
            18 January 2013 10: 08
            Quote: older
            Sometimes it makes me laugh because we don’t learn how to find guilty in our troubles not somewhere, but in ourselves ..

            Whatever officials of all levels do, no matter how they steal, no matter how they betray, I hear from someone all the time. But I don’t steal, I betray no one, I don’t have foreign accounts and forks. another shirt off or what should I take off? Can take a machine gun and arrange a revolution to arrange? Tryndet not tossing bags!
            1. 0
              19 January 2013 00: 07
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Tryndet
              and I would be more specific - "Piz..b"
          3. 0
            19 January 2013 00: 01
            Quote: older
            Or maybe they just go along a neighboring path?
            let them go, if only they wouldn’t crap on ours
      2. +2
        18 January 2013 08: 16
        Quote: older
        .... And who are the traitors? ....

        Organizers-choreographers of this "Parade of Sovereignties" .... "" Bialowieza Signatories "......
        Unfortunately, there are many who are candidates for this title.
        1. 0
          18 January 2013 08: 37
          Bykov.,
          people with different views
          In your opinion, should I put up with other views? They wanted to eat my country, the history of this country and thereby me and my children. Other views are good ...Not to be burned with hot iron, and not in the SF transplant again cripple our homeland
          1. +4
            18 January 2013 08: 46
            Quote: smel
            In your opinion, should I put up with other views?

            In my opinion, you should stop whining and start doing what you are crying about ... Tired of listening to excuses like What can I? Who voted for those who are in the Duma or the Federation Council? You voted ... or did not vote, which also helped them same ... Who allowed reform of the education in such a way that the hair stood on end? We allowed you, including, who gladly work for the same traitors (in your opinion) just because the salary is higher ... So there is no need tell me about patriotism ...
      3. +1
        18 January 2013 08: 32
        older,
        Why no one catches them?
        Why catch them? They are sitting in the Federation Council. Let me remind you that Rossel by a presidential decree in November 1993, he was removed from office with the wording ... "for an attempt to organize the Ural Republic"
        1. +2
          18 January 2013 08: 47
          Quote: smel
          Why catch them? They are sitting in the Federation Council.
          And you will continue to speak, speak, speak ... So this is your fate ... Who chose him in the Federation Council? You and those whom you elected to the deputies of your local parliament
        2. s1н7т
          +1
          18 January 2013 10: 27
          Quote: smel
          "for trying to organize the Ural Republic"

          And what is bad about the Ural Republic as part of the Russian Federation, in fact? In fact, we are following this path - the Perm Territory, the Trans-Baikal (or whatever it is), i.e. there is an enlargement of the subjects, and that's all. Here's your money - yes, this should not be allowed. By the way, these francs have a prehistory in the form of "Ural chervonets")))
          Have you read the "constitutions" of any Gorno-Altai republics, etc.? There they had SOVEREIGNTY registered in the late 90s! And much more contrary to the Constitution of the Russian Federation. Nobody was removed for this. Double standarts?
      4. 0
        18 January 2013 09: 05
        That's right Sergey ... I’m tired of these pats talk about love for the Motherland and my own irresponsibility ...
        1. YARY
          0
          18 January 2013 09: 47
          MYSELF blame yourself and DO NOT HOPE !!!!
          I remember better when I understand that MY SCAM! I don’t shift from myself to Peter and from Peter to Jacob and from Jacob to Vsekova !!!
          But there are sssss-ki who wanted to shit on me! "FOR ME !!!" (P. Bezukhov)
          And these samples, and their family members will answer! They are not so their descendants! Up to the seventh knee - she sss a long memory!
          1. +1
            18 January 2013 11: 05
            Quote: Ardent
            Up to the seventh knee - it’s a long memory!

            Unfortunately, I do not agree with the length of the memory.
            If she were such, then "fun" like 22.06.1941/08.08.08/XNUMX, XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX and so on. did not happen. Of course, you might think, What if a lot of luck.
            But Y-YOU, basically the second line.
            Quote: Ardent
            But there are sssss-ki who wanted to shit on me! "FOR ME !!!" (P. Bezukhov)

            Tatarstan did not win from its "isolation" of the sovereign.
            So the Ural Republic (Kurgan, Chelyabinsk, Perm, Tyumen with Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug and Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug and of course the Sverdlovsk Oblast) would have won the most nihachu!
            Khodorkovsky, Berezovsky and other ghouls from a vest sleeves would have got rather than resources! For Resources was all this butch.
      5. 0
        18 January 2013 14: 09
        Ural Republic - a subject of the Russian Federation not provided for by the Constitution of the Russian Federation, which actually existed from July 1, 1993 to November 9, 1993 within the borders of the modern Sverdlovsk region. The republic was transformed from the Sverdlovsk region in order to increase its status as part of the Russian Federation and gain greater economic and legislative independence. It ceased to exist after the issuance of the Decree of the President of the Russian Federation on the dissolution of the Sverdlovsk Regional Council, and then on the removal from office of the head of the administration Eduard Rossel.

        BACKGROUND

        In 1993, work was underway to create a draft Constitution of the Russian Federation. Initially, according to the project, the republics that are part of Russia had exclusive rights and priority in the formation of their budget. [1] [2] [3]

        In order to have greater independence in the economic and legislative spheres in the future, the leadership of the Sverdlovsk region put forward the idea of ​​transforming the region into a republic. [1]

        In Yekaterinburg, opponents of the creation of the republic pointed out that this step was beneficial only to the local political elite and, in fact, put the issue of the collapse of Russia again on the agenda. Supporters of the idea of ​​the Ural Republic, on the contrary, saw it as a counterweight to the separatist aspirations of Tatarstan and other national republics, as an opportunity to shift the emphasis of political reforms from the center to the places.

        The head of the regional administration, Eduard Rossel, said: "We do not need sovereignty, but we really need economic and legislative independence." According to the governor, the process of restoring Russian statehood has always gone from the depths, and the situation with the Ural Republic is a confirmation of this fact. [4]

        The mayor of Yekaterinburg Arkady Chernetsky believed that the proclamation of the Ural Republic does not prejudice the integrity of Russia. [5] Among the city’s leaders, only Yuri Samarin, the chairman of the city council of Yekaterinburg, considered such an act unacceptable. [6]


        Read more on Wikipedia: http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D3%F0%E0%EB%FC%F1%EA%E0%FF_%D0%E5%F1%EF%F3%E1%EB%E

        8% EA% E0
      6. 0
        19 January 2013 00: 00
        Quote: older
        people with different views ...
        and there are traitors bought by foreign values
    2. +1
      18 January 2013 12: 35
      Whoever sows the wind will reap the storm. Now we will see how the Western powers collapse ...
  2. Vanek
    +3
    18 January 2013 07: 44
    WHO WILL REMEMBER THE OLD, THERE'S EYES OUT !!!

    AND WHO FORGETS - BOTH !!!
  3. +2
    18 January 2013 07: 46
    The fact that the collapse of Russia was prepared clearly for everyone ... And the preparation was thorough ... The Yugoslav scenario ... Just did not take into account the size of the country and inertia ... In Moscow, the troubles of the 91,93 years, and the regions watch TV as a movie on TV .. and vice versa. ..
    1. +1
      18 January 2013 09: 08
      Quote: older
      The fact that the collapse of Russia was prepared clearly
      I’ll say more .. Even now in Siberia there are very strong tendencies to create their own state
      1. 0
        18 January 2013 09: 21
        Quote: domokl
        I’ll say more .. Even now in Siberia there are very strong tendencies to create their own state

        Sasha, it’s not surprising when they show such a Moscow on TV hi
        1. 0
          18 January 2013 10: 05
          laughing Exactly the same picture in Navruz, in my opinion, can be seen at any mosque ... Muslims are obliged to pray in this mosque or at least near it on this holiday ... I saw this picture in real life ...
          1. YARY
            0
            18 January 2013 12: 49
            In Bulgaria, nationalists tore up these "peaceful" Muslims for the same attempt at PR namaz like a hot water bottle!
            And our tail is between our legs! So much for the "mass consciousness" of Russians!
  4. Region65
    +6
    18 January 2013 07: 52
    no matter how they scold Putin, but a sane person understands perfectly well that KRoshka Pu is doing a lot for the country ... and this much was almost ditched by the pseudo-lawyer Medvedev ....... especially the current youth loves to scold, who does not even know, how, after the collapse of the USSR and the "shit-democratization" of Russia, we (forgive me you can't call it any other way) began to EAT humanitarian aid, dried ropes (like instant mashed potatoes) in the form of shredded paper (like instant mashed potatoes), wore fake adidas al-la Chinese couture , double-sided Chinese down jackets, shankhaiks (canvas in the style of Shaolin monks), like cigarettes bought not for rubles, but for millions of rubles, we really slipped into third world countries in a matter of months. All oil and gas fields were donated to the Ping Dostants and their Great Brothers homies. Little Pu returned all this back to the country ... just in general, he has done a lot, is doing and will still do, God bless him long years and good health. Well, and professional and vigilant protection :)))))) and those who argue with this - either simply did not see the dashing nineties, does not know what the huge difference between the 90s and the current state of the country is, or just down or down the troll.
    1. s1н7т
      -1
      18 January 2013 10: 38
      Quote: Region65
      who argues with this - or simply did not see the dashing nineties, does not know

      Shopipets, familiar reception! laughing
      I remember several election campaigns of EP and Pu - on paper from Moscow they brought the same x-nu to the people, and the people, like a herd of sheep, nodded joyfully, believed and voted as it should.
      And the 90s, so we don’t have the clan that your Pu is on guard to organize? laughing
      You - in the garden! In the nursery.
      1. +1
        18 January 2013 11: 20
        Everything is exactly according to your words. hi
        But!
        But PSA agreements in the 2000s. did not conclude.
        Now invested with money-technology for the development of the subsoil. And in all major projects, ROSSNEFT or other OUR companies are present.
        And there is no general "races 3/14", as it happened in the 90s.
        And then the funniest thing happens.
        "3/14" our STABFOND and budget "to saw"
        So we "live" - ​​"wasabi" we chew. sad
    2. 0
      18 January 2013 10: 39
      Quote: Region65
      All oil and gas fields were given a pin to the Dostanians and their Great Brothers. Little Pu brought it all back to the country.

      Very controversial statement. It’s just that schemes have become more hidden. The final beneficiaries are either offshore or just foreign companies. When transferring money to offshore, only 5% is charged, to the company not offshore 15%. According to the most conservative estimates, more than 1 trillion rubles are lost in offshore, and this is 10% of the country's budget. In the public domain there are quite official schemes of Russian business. Link: magasine.rbk.ru
      1. Region65
        0
        18 January 2013 16: 20
        I just saw my island in ruins in the 90s and I see what it is now :) I don’t need to tell, we have oil and gas sucked out ..... and with crumb Pu, the island falls from this, unlike Peterast Yeltsin, which Sakhalin would hardly have found on the map. In the 90s, apartments were abandoned and left on Sakhalin, now not everyone can afford to buy an apartment here, finally the island is covered with roads, infrastructure is being restored, playgrounds are in the yards, kindergartens and schools were once sold by thieves and so on. to list a lot and does not make sense.
  5. +3
    18 January 2013 07: 52
    I live in the Urals. He imagined what could be SO. Goosebumps ran ...
    1. +3
      18 January 2013 08: 00
      Quote: Matematos
      He imagined what could be SO. Goosebumps ran ...
      It was a real scenario ... And about the goosebumps, remember the seaside bandits who were like partisans ... How many supported them ... So everything could be ...
      1. DYMITRY
        0
        18 January 2013 09: 31
        Quote: older
        It was a real scenario ..

        I remember this orgy. All the media vied with each other about how wonderful it would be to live in the "Ural Republic" Switzerland will strangle with envy at its full complement. And when Fritz was dismissed, they began to throw mud at Moscow in chorus. True, this did not last long. First, the magazines were pinned eggs in the doorway. And then Edik and Borka agreed on the delineation of powers. But this idea was completely forgotten already under Putin.
        1. +1
          18 January 2013 10: 03
          Quote: DYMITRY
          I will remember this orgy. All the media vied with each other about how wonderful it would be to live in the "Ural Republic" Switzerland will strangle with envy at its full complement. And when Fritz was removed from office, they began to throw mud at Moscow in chorus. True, this did not last long. First, the magazines were pinned eggs in the doorway. And then Edik and Borka agreed on the delineation of powers. But this idea was completely forgotten already under Putin.
          Greetings to all. I myself then naively thought that if there is an independent Ural Republic, we will be in chocolate, Rossel tried his best. And where is this maximalism now? Oh sorry, that time is gone.
          1. DYMITRY
            +1
            18 January 2013 10: 27
            Quote: Mechanic
            I myself then thought naively

            Greetings Eugene!
            Well, to seriously think, I was too young then, but it sounded really extremely tempting.
          2. s1н7т
            +1
            18 January 2013 10: 45
            Quote: Mechanic
            Rossel tried his best

            He just tried to be in the trend of sovereign trends. And the status of the republic is steeper than the regional one. Let me remind you - all the republics then had their own constitutions, in which sovereignty was spelled out by Russians in white. And nobody took anyone off. From the 99th, it seems, they began to slowly fight this.
        2. s1н7т
          +1
          18 January 2013 10: 42
          Quote: DYMITRY
          I remember this bacchanalia

          It seems that the ideologist of the franc was Bakov, no? He even wrote a book on this subject. And there was nothing to him. His partner at the time, Burkov, and today in the State Duma.
          1. DYMITRY
            +1
            18 January 2013 11: 46
            Quote: c1n7
            It seems that the ideologist of the franc was Bakov, no?

            I honestly don’t know. At that time he was too young to be interested in personalities. And Rossel really took off in '93. He again became governor after the election of 94. By the way, if I'm not mistaken, Bakov is either sitting now, or is under investigation ..
            1. +1
              18 January 2013 13: 24
              Quote: DYMITRY
              By the way, if I’m not mistaken, Bakov is either sitting now, or is under investigation.
              Dmitry, he lives quite calmly. Although it was a matter of raider seizures, they just didn’t prove anything for some reason
              1. s1н7т
                0
                18 January 2013 14: 22
                Quote: Mechanic
                he lives quite calmly

                Even more! A couple of years ago, even the island bought somewhere laughing
          2. 0
            18 January 2013 13: 22
            Quote: c1n7
            It seems that the ideologist of the franc was Bakov, no?
            Yes, right.
            Quote: c1n7
            His partner at the time, Burkov, and today in the State Duma.
            Yes, no longer in the regional.
            1. s1н7т
              0
              18 January 2013 14: 23
              Quote: Mechanic
              His partner at the time, Burkov, and today in the State Duma.
              Yes, no longer in the regional.

              No, it’s sitting in the State Duma.
              I mean, the article is about nothing. All participants in that story not only lost nothing, but earned a lot.
  6. +1
    18 January 2013 07: 56
    Most residents of the country do not care what happens in the Moscow Principality. If it disappears, they will only be glad
    1. Vanek
      +1
      18 January 2013 08: 00
      Quote: Vasya
      generally do not care what in Moscow


      That's the way it is.

      Quote: Vasya
      then they will only be glad


      An army without a commander ......... How do you imagine this? In freestyle swimming?
      1. 0
        18 January 2013 10: 27
        I was in Uzbekistan, the locals complain: You will complain to Moscow earlier, an "uncle" comes from there and gives luli to local bureaucrats, and he could even take it off! And now the local "kings" with the country and the people do what they want and do!
    2. 0
      18 January 2013 10: 25
      Vasya, only traitors, scoundrels and scoundrels will be happy! And even those who love bacon, but a true patriot of their country understands that without this "Moscow principality" well, nothing is possible! For without a center there can be no strong state. And as a consequence of this, we can conclude that those who think so are illiterate, narrow-minded, and greedy (because their own is closer than the state) and they are easy to manipulate! A very instructive film "Ivan Vasilyevich Changes His Profession".
  7. +1
    18 January 2013 08: 04
    Remind yourself of the place where Rossel was in those years, what position he held, where, by whom he later worked. Here and answers to questions will be clear
  8. +1
    18 January 2013 08: 13
    An army without a commander ......... How do you imagine this? In freestyle swimming? --------------- At the commander, brains swam with fat, prescribe a course of therapeutic fasting.
    1. Vanek
      0
      18 January 2013 08: 15
      In vain you are so .............
  9. 0
    18 January 2013 08: 32
    Well looked some candy wrappers .... well and nonsense ...
    1. +1
      18 January 2013 10: 28
      This is not nonsense, Submariner, it is very scary! It would be that in Iraq, Libya, Syria! So this is not nonsense, it really shone, and if we do not remember, it shines!
  10. Assistant professor
    +1
    18 January 2013 08: 38
    There really is something to think about! The article is very interesting. V.V. Putin has really done a lot for the country. He was able, in fact, to recreate the state on the territory of Russia; he returned to people faith in the Fatherland. when he came to power, the world was completely different, Russia was still too weak, and the West had too many levers of pressure on our country, moreover, the very fact of its existence was in question. Under these conditions, Putin had to abandon the reunification of a single country, which broke up in 1991. in order to strengthen and strengthen the Russian Federation. But now the picture is different. Russia has accumulated strength over 12 years and has recovered. I believe that Putin returned to the Kremlin precisely in order to begin the unification of the territory of the former Union.
  11. 0
    18 January 2013 09: 10
    I put the article a plus, but I do not agree on everything, especially about the savior of the fatherland. Here it is necessary to look from what considerations, from patriotism or mercantilism, perhaps both. As for the Franks, I do not see Rossel's portraits, by the way, where are his tracks. Well, an assistant professor. And look for information on the manufacture of francs in the archives of the FSB.
    1. +1
      18 January 2013 10: 34
      .... here you need to look for what reasons ?!
      Dear, please open your eyes! About commercialism, so I personally have not seen Putin's yachts or a flotilla of planes that he is the richest man, so this is nonsense (we won't know who is the richest man and they won't write about it, but that one of the small-shavens who made a fortune in the first and second world wars, I think you will agree) but the fact that it is "tuned" the people in this way is a hundred pounds! And what he did to the country, raising it from the position of "ZYU" So only those who read liberals, tfu libe ... rastov, tfu pi .... stov can doubt!
      Regards to you! Do not read poisonous literature, it corrodes consciousness, sows doubts in the minds!
      1. +1
        18 January 2013 11: 08
        Quote: Oleg147741
        About mercantile spirit, since I personally have not seen Putin’s yachts or a fleet of planes, that he is the richest man, so this is nonsense

        Putin, his friends and some relatives are co-chairs and are members of the board of directors of several major banks and oil and gas companies. These are the facts that are known to those who, for example, work in these companies (naturally not for everyone). Perhaps there is something else, I’m talking about what I know. The president is one of the richest people in the country. The fact that you have not personally seen either yachts or planes - well, maybe he doesn’t need it. Or maybe there, only he forgot to show you laughing
        1. 0
          18 January 2013 11: 24
          Yes, I actually do not need to show it, Middle Brother, it’s enough that Russia is whole territorially and it has become easier to live, a future prospect has appeared, not like in the 90s. And where he enters there, this is his personal affair, just like his personal life is his personal life.
          It is not known how much we would grab (and including ourselves, for objectivity, I also include it here), provided that we could do so much for the country ?!
          1. +1
            18 January 2013 11: 34
            Oleg147741
            It’s me that the man is far from poor. As for the prospects - I agree, not being his fan (well, he does not inspire confidence in me), I cannot but note that against the background of the previous presidents he looks more than worthy.
            1. +2
              18 January 2013 11: 52
              He is not supposed to be poor in status. The country is not poor. The fact that you are not his fan, too, I understand, this is normal and everyone should not be happy with him, this is a normal component of politics. We were talking about the collapse of Russia.
              Stalin was also not happy. And Gaddafi, but now what has failed Qadafi is regretted by many. Found sobriety in Afghanistan. They compared what happened when the Soviet army was there (they built schools, hospitals, roads, helped with agriculture and fought against drugs), and now they have a free and democratic army from the United States. And also regret it.
              I'm all for what ?! I do this to ensure that we ourselves do not regret it later, and on this pity his "not poverty" will look at all as not an argument.
              I put you a plus. Honest opinion! Though very much in a cut with mine.
              1. 0
                18 January 2013 12: 16
                Quote: Oleg147741
                Honest opinion! Though very much in a cut with mine.

                How many people, so many opinions. And you plus smile
                1. 0
                  18 January 2013 12: 41
                  :) Thank you, I'm glad that we understand each other, and do not swear! Good luck to you!
        2. +1
          18 January 2013 12: 20
          Quote: Middle Brother
          Putin, his friends and some relatives are co-chairs and are members of the board of directors of several major banks and oil and gas companies. These are the facts that are known to those who, for example, work in these companies (naturally not for everyone).

          Please, please, references to companies, full names of relatives and friends of V.V. Putin. And since it’s all unfounded. In many forums I heard this, but when I asked for links to provide, then everything was limited to simple chatter.
          Please argue your statement.
  12. +1
    18 January 2013 09: 12
    I registered in order to put plus Region65, but the site did not give it, I am writing. I vividly recalled those millions, coupons, and the words of the major from the duty room: "I will never forgive this government that I was sitting at supper sharing bread between children." You can blame the oligarchs, the theft of officials, etc. as much as you want, but it is also inappropriate to deny that the time has come. And if you are friends with your head and have hands, in any case, you won't share bread at home.
  13. +1
    18 January 2013 09: 22
    I am amazed at people or not people who want the collapse of the country. What do you care about shitty in our present life? Any way to ask you a different question now than in the 90s? Only brothers lived well in the 90s. We have problems, but these problems are solved not by contraceptives entering the square, but by the work of each person in their place with efficient and effective work. And thieves and crooks will sit while there are still people in our country who will not spare their heads for Russia . Siberia is power.
  14. +1
    18 January 2013 10: 04
    Ural francs probably printed on the initiative of E. Rossel and with the knowledge of Yeltsin.
    Rossel from 1990 to 1993 for a year was the head of the administration of the Sverdlovsk region, and in francs the date is 1991 for a year. Then Rosselpropal disappeared at 2 of the year and declared himself governor in 1995.
    1. 0
      18 January 2013 11: 01
      Quote: Corsair5912
      in francs, the date is 1991.

      Exactly. One of the options for the collapse of the USSR is unlikely to be related to the collapse of Russia, so Putin is clearly far-fetched.
      Quote: c1n7
      Article - Kremlin ordering.

      The same feeling arose.
      1. 0
        18 January 2013 11: 29
        Well, no one forbids you to say that! BUT!!! Maybe the Kremlin’s ordering, but let's look at the facts in the eye.
        If someone writes poorly about Putin or Stalin, then it doesn’t even occur to anyone to call it a State Department order. These are they!
        This article has the right to be Kremlin, because this is how it really was and could be!
        For some partisans, these are defenders, while others are terrorists (during the Second World War, I mean, not real terrorists). For some, someone is a scout, for others he is a spy. So, as one of the laws of physics says ... there are reference frames with respect to which ...!
  15. s1н7т
    0
    18 January 2013 10: 54
    Article - Kremlin ordering. Recently, there have been a lot of them. It seems that we are trained in methods of conducting information wars.
    But we still remember how the country was not privatized by the lads in the 90s, but the current "saviors".
    1. +1
      18 January 2013 11: 31
      Brothers in the 90s with Yeltsinoid and present-day Russia and Putin are completely different states! So looking at you s1n7t I smile maliciously!
    2. +2
      18 January 2013 11: 41
      Brothers fought for stalls, kiosks, trading places in bustling markets where you can put a table, and the robbery of the country was done in silence in the Kremlin offices and Moscow banks.
      How did Prokhorov become a billionaire? Like all our oligarchs.
      In 1989 he graduated from the institute and at the age of 26, being a complete zero, in fact, immediately became the head of the IBEC department, probably not without the help of friends and accomplices A. Khlopnin (Governor of the Krasnoyask region) and A. Kozlova (1st deputy chairman of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation) ... Obviously, it was not difficult for him to get a loan to "purchase" Norilsk Nickel shares, and the accomplices did not remain offended.
      They chose him for the role of a billionaire not for his mind, but rather on the contrary, for the lack of mind and imagination.
      Well, and then the mechanism of galloping inflation was turned on and the "oligarchs" had no difficulty in repaying loans, the ruble became a million times cheaper.
  16. dmb
    +2
    18 January 2013 12: 52
    The article is outrageously empty. Mr. Starikov once again licked up to the tonsils. And he did it quite mediocre. If the article is about the 91st year, then what does Putin's activities in 99 have to do with it? It turns out like this. Yeltsin fought for 8 years, fought against the "dismemberment" of Russia (Take as much sovereignty as you can), and when he became completely ustamshi and the enemies began to win, he called the knight Vova, and he saved Russia. It was not Russia that Vova saved in the first place, but the Borins and his capital. For how many of them during the period of creative activity with an honest guy Sobchak did not work out, their competitors would gobble them up, if the state did not stand behind them.
  17. 0
    18 January 2013 13: 26
    We alone, here in the Far East, are "clean" :)
    There was here, in the mid-90s, a couple of morons who talked about the Far East republic.
    So they, from the bullying of society over them and mockery, probably somewhere self-hung.
    In general, for more than 15 years nothing has been heard about the ideas of separation.
    Ah ... yes. I know that up to the beginning of the 2000s horseradish tendencies were strong in Yakutia. So far, Shtyrov has not been set.
  18. -1
    18 January 2013 13: 32
    Another pro-Putin lyuzomozhdenie.
    The Ural Republic disappeared from the agenda in November 2003, together with the removal of E.E. Rossel from the post of head of the administration of the Sverdlovsk region. Another 7 years passed before the accession of "His Majesty".
    Gaidar's team in 93 worked to destroy Soviet industry. The enterprises completely lost working capital and were quietly dying. Gaidar believed that in the place of the ruined factories and collective farms, a new economy would grow rapidly. Rossel, seeing how choking plants without working capital, decided to print his currency.
    Yeltsin was smart enough to remove Gaidar and return Rossel.
    Putin returned the entire Gaidarovskaya team from disgrace. What happened then happened. There is no more industry in the Urals ...
    1. 0
      18 January 2013 19: 19
      And where did it go to the industry of the Urals?
      Metallurgists and machine builders are working, although not at full capacity in comparison with the USSR. The latest self-propelled guns for fire tests are constantly being brought to the closest to us training ground, and even in Tagil artillery and tank training grounds are not empty, every year a bunch of customers come to see the equipment before buying.
  19. djon3volta
    0
    18 January 2013 14: 10
    I know that there are a lot of hidden haters of Putin on the site, just a site mainly about military topics, and it’s hard to figure them out. Well, it’s not necessary to calculate them in principle, it will still be Putininski and not Khomyakov’s.
  20. 0
    18 January 2013 14: 36
    Website: FOX-NOTES. server in the USA, IP: 36.126.172.7
    Our compatriots are also developing the site: A. Abyzova (Medvezhyegorsk), S. Akimova (St. Petersburg), A. Alyamkina (Kurgan), A. Asadov (Essentuki), I. Babicheva (St. Petersburg), A. Baranova (Moscow), etc. .
    But the special services would have to sort this story with the francs to the end ...
    Or can we print the Washington rubles and the Texan Tugriks? ...
  21. wax
    +1
    18 January 2013 14: 56
    The Ural francs were supported by Gaidar. The time of the defeat of socialism has passed, but the time of the defeat of Russia continues, otherwise how to understand the state level of the Gaidar readings and the generally emphasized reverence for this enemy of Russian statehood (as well as the preservation of Chubais, Shakhrai, Burbulis, Kokh and others).
  22. 0
    18 January 2013 20: 44
    The Time of Troubles of the 90s is a shameful page in our history ...