The Ukrainian TV channel showed in a creeping line the figures for the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine since the beginning of the Russian special operation

Ukrainian television revealed the figures for the Ukrainian Armed Forces' losses since the beginning of the Russian special operation; this information was published by the 1+1 TV channel. However, as the Ukrainian press reports, the TV channel has already been forced to apologize for the “typo.”

On the air of the Ukrainian TV channel 1+1, which is part of the sphere of interests of the oligarch Igor Kolomoisky, who is now in a detention center, during one of the television programs below, the figures for the losses of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, including the dead and missing - 1 million 126 thousand 652 people were announced in a creeping line. The ticker was broadcast during the daily telethon, during which representatives of the Ukrainian Armed Forces talk about the “victories” of the Ukrainian army. After some time, the line was deleted, and the TV channel apologized for the “typo.”

Ministry of Defense: during a full-scale war, 1 military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine died or went missing

- the line said.

It is not yet clear whether the data shown were real, but Zelensky’s office immediately became alarmed and refuted the figures mentioned, forcing the channel’s management not only to apologize, but also to call this information a “typo.” It is alleged that almost Zelensky himself personally called the TV channel.

Previously, the DPR estimated the irretrievable losses of the Ukrainian Armed Forces since the beginning of the Northern Military District at 500 thousand people; such data was obtained from open sources, as well as intelligence information. At the same time, Donetsk admitted that the enemy’s losses could be even greater. In September of this year, the NATO Secretary General indirectly confirmed Ukraine's losses of half a million people, saying that no one promised that it would be easy.

According to the latest data, the number of the Armed Forces of Ukraine as of November 2023 is approximately 1 million 300 thousand people.

Comments

[Ambrose]

A million or more? Wow...

[Irokez]

Quote: Ambrose

Wow

Yes, we (ourselves) don’t need this. This is if we assume that Ukraine once had 50 million, then 1,3 million of those 50 is 2,6%. And taking into account relocants and so on, all 50% of the population remained, with the majority being female.

[Bumblebee_3]

Quote: Irokez

in Ukraine there once were 50 million, then 1,3 million of those 50 is 2,6%. And taking into account relocants and so on, all 50% of the population remained, with the majority being female.

Well, you have the score, however! 50 million, as you write, approximately 50% of them are women. How many are old people, how many are children? Haven't you asked yourself this question? So significantly more than 2,6%

[GGV]

Even before the Northern Military District, the population was calculated by bread production in Hochland, so the numbers there range from 32 to 37 million (and in some sources
less than 30) were called. Yes, and as many as possible, if their national idea is: fuck in your own country and dump it in “Europe”, rule there and love your homeland.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

I also bought into this (in terms of bread consumption). But do not forget that in most villages in Ukraine, 50-70 percent of villagers bake their own homemade bread. Grain for flour is received as shares by former members of collective farms. So analytics are wrong by about 30-40 percent.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

50-70 percent of villagers bake their own homemade bread

Thus, bread consumption is calculated not by the buns sold, but precisely on the basis of the production and consumption of flour.

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

Grain for flour is received as shares

What, do they grind the flour themselves? I seriously doubt that anyone is doing this now. even in Ukraine. After all, this is not Africa, where grain is pounded in mortars...

[quote]

There are many mills in Ukraine, in almost every large village.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: devis

There are many mills in Ukraine

Let's say. And how much do these many mills distort the calculations of the population based on bread consumption? A million, two, ten million?
I suspect that this influence is at the level of statistical error.

[bayard]

Quote from: nik-mazur

Let's say. And how much do these many mills distort the calculations of the population based on bread consumption?

Not at all - many people baked bread at home before. Many people bought hot bread in mini-bakeries at shopping centers, which statistics are unlikely to take into account.
And today there are only 15 to 20 million inhabitants left in the territory controlled by Kyiv. Zaluzhny voiced this in an interview, and he knows better from there.
And at the time of the 2014 coup, there were no more than 37 million left in the used one, I heard this from members of the commission during the last census (before the coup). It’s very funny how they inflated the official figures there. So - the real census showed 35 million. Two million were put on the fact that people were not at home, away, abroad... And 10 million were added simply because it became scary to voice such numbers, because at that time there was an advertisement on TV “Us” 52 million!" - voicing the population of the Soviet Ukrainian SSR. What I just wrote is exactly what I heard from two members of the census commission.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: bayard

Not by any means

So I'm for it. I think that there are probably many times (if not orders of magnitude) more ukrorelokantov, who with the beginning of the war were dumped from the Ready Nenka, than unregistered bakers who grind the grain themselves.

[bayard]

Quote from: nik-mazur

there are probably many times (if not orders of magnitude) more ukrorelokantov, who with the beginning of the war were dumped from Ready Nenka, than unaccounted bakers

At the time of the start of the SVO 24.02.2022/27/30. There were about 15 million inhabitants left. The most desperate optimists can claim that “about 20 million.” Currently there are "17 - 1,2 million" left. - according to Zaluzhny. I estimate this at about 10 million. . In less than two years, at least XNUMX million died on the fronts (up to XNUMX million according to Kolomoisky) and fled abroad.
There is very little left to the desired figure for reducing the used population (to 5 million).

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Every village has a mill. Nothing surprising.

[restless]

Haven’t you seen mini-mills? They plug into a socket, pour in grain and grind whatever you want, flour in one direction, bran in the other, and every village has a mill...

[Petr_Koldunov]

Quote: Bumblebee_3

0 million, as you write, approximately 50% of them are women. How many are old people, how many are children? Haven't you asked yourself this question? So significantly more than 2,6%

Well, why not count? After all, the unshaven clown now puts women, the elderly, the disabled, and children under arms. They are going to lower the conscription age to 17 years old! What's next? 12-year-old boys from Zelyajugend, with javelins on their shoulders?
So taking into account women, the elderly, and children is quite normal for this wild territory!

[Bumblebee_3]

Quote: Peter_Koldunov

They are going to lower the conscription age to 17 years old! What's next? 12-year-old boys from Zelyajugend, with javelins on their shoulders?

Well, I’m not sure about the javelin, but the RPG is the same, there’s practically no recoil. By the way, according to the stories of front-line soldiers (I’m over 65+), 10-year-old German children in Berlin brought shells to their soldiers. And the 12-year-olds were anti-aircraft gun crews. Are you proposing that children be considered a “legitimate military target”? There was an article on the website about how ours hit the dry land with a drone while carrying out a wounded man. I wouldn't do that.

[Last centurion]

Anyone with a weapon is a legal target. Including transporting the wounded, including the Hitler Youth.

[Vasya_T.]

Do you propose not to count? Why the hell?

[Egor53]

Iroquois, in the early 90s there were 50 million people in Ukraine, and now only 15 million people live there. And for such a country, the loss of more than 1 million people is a disaster.

[Irokez]

Quote: Egor53

in the early 90s there were 50 million in Ukraine

Well, that’s what I’m talking about, and not about the current Ukraine. Comparison with the Ukrainian SSR.

[Thrifty]

Iroquois - when did 50 million people live there? Their census figures gave much lower results, within 38 million before the Maidan!

[Alex777]

Quote: Thrifty

Their census figures gave much lower results, within 38 million before the Maidan!

Of these, 10 million are now in Russia.
And new regions, and just our people who moved.
About 8 million more went to the West.
So the announced losses are a disaster.
But they have long been no secret to the West.
The Turks voiced them, Vasil Vakarov.
Ours are not voiced for obvious reasons.

[Azzzwer]

Quote: Irokez

50% of the population remained, with the majority being female.

Do you hope to find a wife for yourself? Don't count on it. They will be distributed to all migrant workers.

[Archon]

There, judging by the videos of the cities, you can freely recruit another 2-3 million into the army, which will extend the SVO for another 2-3 years, subject to continued assistance from NATO. The female population will also be disposed of and forced into the army, this is an additional 0,5-1m people. Women, by their psychology, are a little more obedient, which means there won’t be any special problems.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Archon

you can freely recruit another 2-3 million into the army, which extends the SVO for another 2-3 years, subject to continued assistance from NATO

After which the final end comes, when there is simply no one to use NATO’s help.

[bk316]

There, judging by the videos of the cities, you can freely recruit another 2-3 million into the army, which will extend the SVO for another 2-3 years, subject to continued assistance from NATO. The female population will also be disposed of and forced into the army, this is an additional 0,5-1m people.

Somehow, everyone counting mobresources forgets that for one person at the front you need more than 10 times more in the rear, and not just in the rear, but for them to work.
So count.

[antivirus]

It’s funny if some, hundreds of thousands bought themselves a death certificate. FSE also died. There are none. I don’t see anything in the village.

[esso]

There is nothing to be surprised about. During the Battles in Popasnaya, the Armed Forces lost 1000 souls a day, the guys were surprised, they say why they are struggling and struggling. By the summer of 2022, the guys defeated the professionals, by the spring of 2023 there were reservists, now just weakly trained conscripts, all of whom studied according to NATO standards or were disabled or on the ground, or maybe even on the ground.

[Petr_Koldunov]

Quote: Esso

The guys defeated the professionals by the summer of 2022, the reservists by the spring of 2023, now they are just poorly trained conscripts

And before that, for 9 years in the Donbass, the LDPR militias seriously cut down the Ukrovermacht... the figure of losses was stated at 15 ukrozoldaten (000-2014), which also somewhat reduced their percentage of professional military personnel.

[Archon]

On the contrary, the LDPR militias were training material for the future army of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Before this, there were no professional military personnel with experience there, and the army of the LDPR was, at least biting, but very limited, without a rear, without modern weapons, without aviation, without nuclear weapons, almost without air defense, without armored vehicles, without spare parts for vehicles. Therefore, the Ukrainian Armed Forces trained its troops in the small army of the LDPR on constant rotation.

[Archon]

On the contrary, the LDPR militias were training material for the future army of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Before this, there were no professional military personnel with experience there, and the army of the LDPR was, at least biting, but very limited, without a rear, without modern weapons, without aviation, without nuclear weapons, almost without air defense, without armored vehicles, without spare parts for vehicles. Therefore, the Ukrainian Armed Forces trained its troops in the small army of the LDPR on constant rotation.

[esso]

Quote: Archon

On the contrary, the LDPR militias were training material for the future army of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Before this, there were no professional military personnel with experience there, and the army of the LDPR was, at least biting, but very limited, without a rear, without modern weapons, without aviation, without nuclear weapons, almost without air defense, without armored vehicles, without spare parts for vehicles. Therefore, the Ukrainian Armed Forces trained its troops in the small army of the LDPR on constant rotation.

Yes, I agree, these are realities. But unfortunately, there are a lot of haters and outright fools here. Having no idea that the Armed Forces of Ukraine represented themselves. I will say this, the guys said that the opponent was very serious and was motivated. Now the situation is improving. Volunteers and the military bought more for themselves at their own expense. Carelessness in war leads to death. 6 people walked away carelessly to smoke and then a shell landed. Everything that was somly from 6 was collected in a bag.

[esso]

eh, don't be naive. This is just propaganda. The main battles took place in 2014-2015, and then they were badly defeated. And then with the help of the Russian Federation. From 2016-2022 nothing, just clashes. There was nothing left of that army of the Armed Forces of Ukraine by 2022. We had a serious enemy in front of us, the command frankly didn’t think it through and only the heroism of the guys on the ground decided a lot. 15000 killed and wounded, but that’s nothing. Those who jumped and believed that the Ukrainians did not have an army paid bitterly in 2022; any opponents should not be underestimated. Now in 2022-2023 they lowered the term acceptable, they were ground up and wasted. Ukrainians drove a lot of people through their ATO and they were trained by serious guys, but I will say that they were competent, but they caused a lot of problems.....

[Jackson]

Yeah, poorly trained conscripts... These conscripts are clinging to their positions with their teeth... Maybe this underestimation is enough? We are facing a well-trained enemy, and he still has enough strength...

[esso]

These are poorly trained conscripts, but the problem is that the enemy also has equipment, artillery, aviation, there is little equipment, but there is. The battle has died down, the boys go to see who they shot, they find 2-3 half-naked APU who are still alive. They stripped and abandoned their own people, no magazines, no sights, no first aid kits. The enemy has seriously dug in and will retreat to the cities. The very urge for the quality of the Ukrainian Armed Forces infantry. But the officers there are competent, I agree. They make good use of the terrain...

[Lina Shuvalova]

A “tail” of 127 thousand is no longer a “tail”, but a TAIL! 127 thousand families!

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Lina Shuvalova

A “tail” of 127 thousand is no longer a “tail”, but a TAIL! 127 thousand families!

So yes, that comes out to 12,7% of a million.
It turns out to be such a “fluffy” “tail”.

[Orange Bigg]

Quote: Ambrose

A million or more? Wow...

We must understand that this is not the end yet. Zelensky is preparing a new mobilization, which is already a long one. This begs the question. Wouldn’t it be easier and faster to deal with Ze and the company? And then all this would not have happened.

Zelensky warned about the adoption of a new mobilization plan in Ukraine next week

https://topwar.ru/231084-zelenskij-predupredil-o-prinjatii-na-sledujuschej-nedele-novogo-plana-po-mobilizacii-na-ukraine.html

[Vincent price]

Does it ever occur to you that they are consciously defending their country? Otherwise, you’ll agree that it would have been easier for us at 41 to knock off Stalin, right?

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

A million or more? Wow...

Considering that these losses were for 1 hour of combat)).

Don't be fooled by the nonsense.

At least look at what’s written there, it’s just a hacker attack, otherwise they’ve already started discussing the millions in losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

For a million killed, there must be another 3 million wounded, and after all, someone else remained in the army.

And even if we believe in losses of 10:1, then we have 110 thousand dead?!

[Leshak]

Considering that these losses are for 1 hour of combat)). Don’t be fooled by B.S. At least look at what is written there,

Translated from Ukrainian to ours: “per hour” means “per time.”

[Andrey Dibrov]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

A million or more? Wow...

Considering that these losses were for 1 hour of combat)).

Don't be fooled by the nonsense.

At least look at what’s written there, it’s just a hacker attack, otherwise they’ve already started discussing the millions in losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

For a million killed, there must be another 3 million wounded, and after all, someone else remained in the army.

And even if we believe in losses of 10:1, then we have 110 thousand dead?!

Well, yeah...
https://www.penzainform.ru/news/social/2023/11/24/glava_penzi_prizval_ne_prevrashat_shkoli_v_nekropoli.html

[abrakadabre]

It doesn’t say that over a million people died. We are talking about irretrievable losses. These are the dead + those same wounded and disabled people.

[bk316]

Per million killed

You will learn to read.
Where is it about a million KILLED?
There are a million irretrievable losses, which gives 300K killed, which is very similar to the truth.

[Alexander Shumeiko]

If for every one killed there are 1-2-3 cripples, then there are already 4 million crippled people.

[bk316]

If for 1 killed there are 2-3-4 cripples

Have a nice one you too
There are a million not killed, but just irretrievable losses

[Boromir1941]

Damn, I would have shit myself after such losses

[Incvizitor]

They don't care, they have a death cult. Cemeteries with pissing blue rags in the cities, dances in the pit with glass wash, corpses pretend to be corpses in the geyrop, they boast about their murdered relatives on video and post it on the Internet.

[Sailor]

Only about five to ten years after the war will we probably find out the numbers with acceptable reliability.

[Lina Shuvalova]

We would like to know the truth about our losses! Yes, about the losses of the Russian Donbass! We ourselves would like to survive in our own country, on Russian soil! The bourgeoisie does not protect us - Russians and Russians, but simply replaces them with enemy migrants who are preparing for a war with the Russians inside Russia, they already have weapons that are supplied by organized crime groups - national diasporas together and with money from the West! The ruling class of the bourgeoisie in Russia DOES NOT have a homeland, Russia is NOT a homeland for them, but a feeding trough! Billionaires and millionaires have no citizenship at all! The Russophobic Kremlin doesn’t care about Russians at all, they don’t care what kind of people will live on Russian soil!

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Lina Shuvalova

The bourgeoisie does not protect us - Russians and Russians, but simply replaces us with enemy migrants who are preparing for a war with Russians inside Russia

I’m embarrassed to ask: why should the ruling class and billionaires replace Russians with enemy migrants who will start a war with the Russians in Russia? What's the profit from this? Or do you think they do it out of innate evilness, like supervillains in comic books who dream of killing everyone simply because that’s what supervillains are supposed to do...

[BMP-2]

Well, the profit here is obvious: migrants will almost always be a cheaper labor force than their locals - after all, they move precisely because they consider the living conditions in the country of residence worse than in the country where they migrate, and therefore agree to work even for less money, if it is a larger amount (in terms of purchasing power) than at home. Of course, from a strategic perspective, this will lead to a decline in the quality of the workforce, marginalization of society and increased social tension, which is fraught with riots and revolutions. But the problem is that in pursuit of short-term profits, billionaires very rarely think long term. Well, how much the ruling elite is able to control these billionaires and how long-term its own strategy is is a separate question, the answer to which is not obvious.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: BMP-2

migrants will almost always be cheaper labor than their local counterparts

You seem to have not caught the idea that was voiced: the ruling class and billionaires are consciously and purposefully replacing Russians with migrants who will organize a war against the Russians, after which there will be no Russians left in Russia, and the migrants will turn into local residents. And the locals, as you yourself noted, are a more expensive workforce, which makes the idea of ​​replacing Russians with non-Russians meaningless. At the same time, if the short-term profit of the bourgeoisie can somehow be twisted, then for the ruling class there is no sense in replacing the local population with visiting marginalized people at all.

[SIT]

Quote from: nik-mazur

then for the ruling class there is no sense in replacing the local population with visiting marginalized people at all.

Who told you that the ruling class is going to live here forever? He scooped it up offshore and dumped it into his foreign property. The kids have been there for a long time and have citizenship of NATO countries. They are not going to return to Raska, as they call Russia. Here and now, migrants are bringing in a ton of money on construction sites. They bring it to everyone - to developers in the form of excess profits at astronomical prices per square meter. m of housing, bureaucrats in the form of kickbacks with 6 zeros on the snout, cops are given diasporas. Everyone has an income. What happens next, let those who remain here decide. Yes, even if everyone dies, it doesn’t matter.

[your1970]

Quote: SIT

He scooped it up offshore and dumped it into his foreign property. The kids have been there for a long time and have citizenship of NATO countries. They are not going to return to Raska, as they call Russia.

Let me humbly remind you that, unlike government money (the notorious “300 billion” of which only 72 were found), fortunes All major oligarchs have been seized there. Like real estate, yachts, houses and so on...
If you didn’t notice this, then they saw it very clearly and clearly even after they were robbed in Cyprus. Just taking the money to zero....
Moreover, in Cyprus, everyone was robbed, those who had 100 and those who had billions, money that was purely of Russian origin.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: SIT

Who told you that the ruling class is going to live here forever? He scooped it up offshore and dumped it in his foreign property

Seriously? And where do you think our ruling class can go now?

Quote: SIT

Here and now, migrants are bringing in a ton of money on construction sites. They bring it to everyone

Do you think the Darkest One also has a share?
In general, some kind of liberal or ultra-patriotic stream of the unconscious.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote from: nik-mazur

I’m embarrassed to ask: why should the ruling class and billionaires replace Russians with enemy migrants who will start a war with the Russians in Russia? What's the profit from this?

Hmmm...! It turns out that the country is still the same. quite dull... !

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Nikolaevich I

It turns out that the country is still the same. quite dull

Well, explain it to those who don’t understand. Are you smart? Or are you one of those who understands everything, but cannot say?

[Gennady Bogdanovich]

What difference does it make who is robbed or robbed?

[flint]

Rough bander spoon, very rude. Looks like you are an inexperienced cipher, you immediately got fired up :))

[Viktor Sergeev]

Shut up provocateur. What do you have to do with Russia? How is it in Lviv? We'll deal with ours. After the war we will deal with the losses.

[Practitioner23354df]

Quote: Victor Sergeev

Shut up provocateur.

In this case, the provocateur is you.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Lina Shuvalova

We ourselves would like to survive in our own country, on Russian soil!

You are telling the bitter truth! There are too many (!) migrants in Russia and, living in our country, they behave more and more arrogantly and aggressively, considering our land to be theirs, and us as undesirable citizens, second-class citizens! Judging by what is happening in the country, they are really preparing to take over our country! This happens for various reasons... Incl. both because of the presence of a “fifth column” in the country, and because of the lack of a normal migration policy that takes into account the national interests of Russians, but in the presence of bureaucratic stupidity and corruption! I read that according to an international institute, the presence of migrants in the country up to 2% leads to the emergence of social and interethnic tension in the country, which ultimately leads to conflicts... According to a number of sources, the number of migrants in Russia has long been exceeds the "borderline" number!

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Nikolaevich I

There are too many (!) migrants in Russia and, living in our country, they behave more and more arrogantly and aggressively, considering our land to be theirs, and us as undesirable citizens, second-class citizens!

You seem to be confusing Russia with Europe, where migrants go for the sake of doing nothing and sitting on benefits. How many migrants I have seen here, everyone smiles politely and plows in where the locals don’t want to, and if something happens, they fly out from here to their historical homeland, like champagne corks. There is, of course, a marginal greyhound, but this goodness is sufficient everywhere.

[Andrey_10]

You're stupid? Polite and smiling migrants???? Ahaha, don't make people laugh. Especially where they “fly out like traffic jams.” It’s just that they don’t fly out, but become greyhounds, become wild, become impudent, .... Etc.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Andrey_10

Are you an idiot?.. It’s just that they don’t fly out, but greyhounds

Judging by your vocabulary, it seems that you are one of those greyhound migrants.
In general, consume less news, and go out onto the streets more often, so that evil migrants do not appear.

[your1970]

Quote: Nikolaevich I

! I read that according to an international institute, the presence of migrants in the country is up to 10%

Quote: Nikolaevich I

According to a number of sources, in Russia the number of migrants has long exceeded the “borderline” number!

There are less than 50 million of us left???
Wow...
Departments talk about 4 million migrants...
And if in your city they don’t know how to distinguish RUSSIAN Kazakh/Buryat/Yakut/Tatar who came to work with you - and they are all considered wholesale “Tajiks”, then this is a completely different question.....

[Practitioner23354df]

Here the Kremlin deputies have given you minuses.

[your1970]

But there were times when readers who had bruised their heads could be driven into their skulls for nonsense

[bk316]

The Russophobic Kremlin doesn’t care about Russians at all, they don’t care what kind of people will live on Russian soil!

He won’t give this record a ride, they cut it down
Of course, I understand that in 404 there is only hope for unrest in Russia, but for this we will have to invent something new. The Germans played this card in 1914. True, this did not help the Germans.

[aiden]

Quote: Lina Shuvalova

We would like to know the truth about our losses! Yes, about the losses of the Russian Donbass! We ourselves would like to survive in our own country, on Russian soil! The bourgeoisie does not protect us - Russians and Russians, but simply replaces them with enemy migrants who are preparing for a war with the Russians inside Russia, they already have weapons that are supplied by organized crime groups - national diasporas together and with money from the West! The ruling class of the bourgeoisie in Russia DOES NOT have a homeland, Russia is NOT a homeland for them, but a feeding trough! Billionaires and millionaires have no citizenship at all! The Russophobic Kremlin doesn’t care about Russians at all, they don’t care what kind of people will live on Russian soil!

Emo-communist bots have arrived? It’s people like you who open people’s eyes to who the Communist Party of the Russian Federation is now. Yes, in fact, it has appeared throughout Russian history

[alexoff]

In general, they could have long ago counted the territories of cemeteries with flags from a satellite

[Plate]

And many satellites with sufficient resolution to count graves, eh? This is, of course, a more important activity than looking directly at a war zone.

[Lptsk]

Purely according to obituaries, officially about 400 thousand were killed. More sanitary

[mikh-korsakov]

To this number of 400 thousand we must add the missing. Nobody knows exactly how many of them remained on the battlefields, covered with earth and burned. In addition, there are cases when commanders, knowing in advance that a subordinate has died, delay the report in order to receive allowances for him. Corruption in this country is a way of existence.

[bk316]

To this number of 400 thousand we must add the missing.

+ cripples - so it turns out 1,2M. Everything fits together.

[Berkut752]

Plate, your nickname is strange, it is associated with a PAN on your head.
however, the word “saucer”, which is an association with a UFO (unidentified flying object) or with a British helmet.
However, I didn’t want to ask my question with a helmet, but for your general development. So, the satellite is able to distinguish even wires on poles.
Well, counting the flags is generally a trivial matter. By the way, get busy and take part in the SVO. The Ministry of Defense will thank you, or maybe they will hang a medal on your chest. After all, they don’t mean anything now.
Look at Shoigu, Gerasimov and their deputies, as if they won the Second World War.

[Plate]

So, the satellite is able to distinguish even wires on poles.

Where have you seen such satellites? I heard that a resolution of 0,3 meters is already VERY cool. But even this is not enough to distinguish the wires. Of course, this is enough for counting graves, but wouldn’t it be better to look at LBS with such equipment?

Quote: Berkut752

By the way, get busy and take part in the SVO.

I'm scared to go there myself.

Why is there any talk about medals, Shoigu and Gerasimov here at all?

[Bumblebee_3]

Quote from alexoff

In general, they could have long ago counted the territories of cemeteries with flags from a satellite

Not everyone is buried that way. How many of them rot in fields and forest plantations. When they’re buried, the families should be given “compensation,” but otherwise he’s gone missing, so what the hell with him?

[alexoff]

But the order of the numbers will be known, and how much to multiply it by - 2 or 5 - is no longer so significant

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Bumblebee_3

Not everyone is buried that way. How many of them rot in the fields and forestPrecipitation. When they are buried, the families should be given “compensation” and so he went missing, well, to hell with him

This is an objective reason for hiding the names of the victims. That is why Zelensky was alarmed - this way they can get to the truth of those sprinkled in the field and buried anywhere.
This is not the first time I have noticed a strange tendency to write “obscurity” together. I suggest you pay attention to:

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[Bumblebee_3]

ROSS 42 (Yuri Vasilievich)
Thanks for the corrections, I'll be more careful next time. Actually, it's worth checking the spelling, but.....

[esso]

there are still many corpses in the gray zone, plus there are still unburied corpses in morgues and refrigerators. There are still many body parts that have not been identified.

[Joker62]

And you still don’t take into account what else is buried in the forest, besides the fields???
It’s not so easy to count how many have died and how many more are unaccounted for from the SBU and the Nazis.

[alexoff]

This will be the multiplying factor. If there are, say, 200 thousand graves with flags throughout the country, 300 near some town, and 600 obituaries in the local newspaper, then you can estimate the losses as 400 thousand.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Joker62

And you still don’t take into account what else is buried in the forest, besides the fields???
It’s not so easy to count how many have died and how many more are unaccounted for from the SBU and the Nazis.

So, in theory, these losses are classified as “missing in action.” Those who were captured and are listed as missing will be lucky.
Surely there are also “dead souls” still “fighting” there, whom the command does not present as having left the payroll and receives monetary allowances for them. So there are no exact figures yet, because all the figures are conditional and will most likely be adjusted upward, but if such data leaked on the TV channel, then this is probably something that is already confirmed by the data they have. Not shabby, let’s say they chopped it up.
PS - this does not even take into account the assorted mercenaries who fertilized the fields with their carcasses.

[Rumata]

Quote from alexoff

count the territories of cemeteries with flags

The missing, irretrievable medical personnel, and deserters have no graves.

[alexoff]

The sanitary workers usually have graves. Who is missing, and who has been living in Gana’s grandmother’s barn for a year or bringing bricks to Mariupol, not a single statistic can count

[Lev_Russia]

Well, in short... The more the merrier!!!

[Grits]

Something is too much... I think, after all, it’s really a typo.

[pharmacist]

It's too late! Potential conscripts have already rushed to the border forests of the Square.

[dmi.pris1]

I agree that the total losses there are 1,5-2 times less.

[esso]

no, I think no, not a typo, these are those who are on the lists.

[Irokez]

According to the latest data, the number of the Armed Forces of Ukraine as of November 2023 is approximately 1 million 300 thousand people.

Well what can I say.
Lies and nonsense reveal themselves sooner or later and everyone can see it.
Let's ask ourselves why they were hiding it before, and then suddenly they began to voice it little by little? Well, everything is coming to the conclusion that the war is lost and it can no longer be hidden, but somehow it is necessary to retreat with dignity or end this grave of the Outskirts both politically and economically for Western countries.
So they are preparing the deceived population for surrender, or rather for capitulation, probably recognizing that there is no way to cope with a strong enemy and there is no chance.

[Blueeyes-71]

So, this is not a bug, but a feature?

[Turbuta Dave]

Nothing... Everything is ahead..

[Dimm588]

According to the latest data, the number of the Armed Forces of Ukraine as of November 2023 is approximately 1 million 300 thousand people.

You would clarify that the “source” of this “data” about a million is the same department that knocks down hundreds of geraniums every day.

[Repellent]

Quote from Dimm588

The “source” of this “data” about a million is the same department that knocks down hundreds of geraniums every day

That is, in fact, not a million, but two? Are you hinting at this?

[Dimm588]

200 million! The first army of the galaxy.

[Dimm588]

The Ukrainians are running out, they want to bring in imperial robots, and here you are dying about 2 million.

[svp67]

Ministry of Defense: during a full-scale war, 1 military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine died or went missing
- the line said.

If you add: “they were wounded and deserted” That’s a very real number

[esso]

the wounded don't count, but deserters do...

[svp67]

Quote: Esso

the wounded don't count

Were they all able to return to duty later?

[Thrifty]

There really is a huge number of unburied people, buried in fields and burned in crematoria, so the number of irretrievable losses will actually be more than one million people for sure.

[Fut Fut]

The figure is too large, it would have been felt by the entire Ukrainian society, even with the heavy ones, and the entire front would have collapsed.

[Incvizitor]

Pumping up with devices and holding the detachments.

[Sergey T19]

The usual dirty technologies of political struggle.

[BAI]

Previously, the DPR estimated the irretrievable losses of the Ukrainian Armed Forces since the beginning of the Northern Military District at 500 thousand people; such data was obtained from open sources, as well as intelligence information.

The Americans, based on satellite photographs of cemeteries, estimated losses at 600

[ANB]

. estimated losses at 600

Are these only those officially buried? If so, then the figure in the ticker is very similar to the truth.

[esso]

The Americans said approximately 800000

[lukash66]

I really believe in Co and company. It can't be any other way. There were initially 350 personnel, according to their clearly underestimated figures. Plus mobilization in the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the defense of approx. 500k, Ministry of Internal Affairs, etc. plus at least another 50k. Plus Nazi volunteers of all stripes. And again it’s all over, again they need at least 200k. In fact, there are satellite images of cemeteries outside. Not long ago there was some kind of flash mob, they lit candles. So there were already a lot of candles. Again social networks, retired numbers from mobile. telephone networks have been calculated. And we had about 23 prisoners in jail until the summer of 20. Plus the bourgeoisie themselves gave a figure of 20k cripples. So everything is quite reliable. And this is good news: the most motivated ones were thoroughly knocked out. Well, the fact that they resist, most of them are Russians, they chat in purely Russian with swear words, and the Russians know how to resist. That's the problem.

[Bolt cutter]

retired numbers

The owners dumped us over the hill.

[lukash66]

Quote: Bolt Cutter

retired numbers

The owners dumped us over the hill.

Just all of them?

[mikh-korsakov]

"Russians know how to resistI. "In my deep conviction, the fact that everyone recognizes that the North Military District is moving slowly is not that the West has armed the Armed Forces of Ukraine (heavy equipment is given in “homeopathic” doses), and certainly not in the training of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in NATO countries - these they have never fought with a strong enemy - therefore they can teach that there is a coffee break at 10.00, and that corporals should massage the feet of their subordinates after physical exercise, although the latter, of course, is humane, but secondary. Veterans of the Ukrainian Armed Forces themselves can teach NATO how to fight. But all the problem is that the cunning West made it so that Russian men fight with Russian men (there are few stubborn Banderaites in the Armed Forces of Ukraine in percentage terms).

[Above_name]

Russian men fight with Russian men

Vyrus fights with Russian men.

[opuonmed]

Ministry of Defense: during the full-scale war, 1 military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine died or went missing.

Borka Brit said to the last Ukrr and die for the interests of the USA and the Britons! and Zelya and the Kiev regime, yes sir!

[astronom1973n]

Yes, there is a decent payment for the interests of the Anglo-Saxon peoples. I would like to ask the Ukrainians. WHOSE interests are you fighting for? It is truly said that when they want to punish, they take away their reason!

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

Actually, they have Nazism. They have a good idea of ​​what they are fighting for. They dream of ideas of the greatness of the Ukrainian nation. Without the desire of the Ukrainians themselves, no Anglo-Saxons would have done anything. Another thing is that there are fewer and fewer people willing to fight.

[Knell wardenheart]

I think it was still a typo. I believe that for those killed, the figure does not reach half a million, but for the seriously wounded it could be more than half a million.

[Repellent]

Quote: Knell Wardenheart

I think it was a typo after all

And why am I not surprised?

You guys are funny, liberda. Predictable

[Cartalon]

That is, you believe that Ukraine lost more than 1 in killed alone, and for every killed there are 3-4 wounded.

[Repellent]

Quote: Cartalon

That is, you believe

I believe in myself. And I don't believe in anything anymore

Quote: Cartalon

Ukraine lost more than 1 killed

If you read carefully, it says "dead" and went missing"Which, you see, is not quite the same thing.

Quote: Cartalon

For every killed there are 3-4 wounded

Are these real statistics, modern ones? Source? Or just a reprint from the fence Internet?

[76rtbr]

losses of killed and wounded and missing (buried, eaten by dogs and rats), total number, learn to read carefully!!

[Team]

That is, you believe

Yes, there are plenty of funny guys here..))

[Msi]

For every killed there are 3-4 wounded

The Americans have approximately 1 in XNUMX casualties in Afghanistan.

[Incvizitor]

This is when the wounded are taken away like this and the bitches basically abandon them, without taking into account the huge horde of black transplantologists.

[Puzoter]

Looks like a throw-in. It may very well be that they are preparing the ground for a truce on conditions that are unfavorable for the Independent, and in order for people to grab it, they are preparing it in this way.

[lukash66]

Quote: puzoter

Looks like a throw-in. It may very well be that they are preparing the ground for a truce on conditions that are unfavorable for the Independent, and in order for people to grab it, they are preparing it in this way.

Let me disagree with you. Where has all the greatness gone, at least under the lam, personnel, mobilized, all sorts of volunteers, mercenaries? How can we explain the lack of human resources again? Now give them students and women too. Soon the grandparents will come into play. Where are the men from 30 to 50?

[miner]

Judging by the video from Ukraine, it is men aged 30 and older who are fighting. They are rowed first. Younger, volunteers only. Now there is a howl on Ukrainian channels about plans to reduce the age of those being mobilized.

[Berg berg]

Maybe it’s a fake, but Ukraine will still have to return to Russia all its lands of Novorossiya and Little Russia. And then we’ll see!

[Dmitry Ivanov_1991]

my vision. I want to be wrong.
but for the elections of our Putin - in February-March there will be a truce ala what happened in Donbass from 2014-2022. and Putin will be popularly called the Peacemaker, for he stopped the War! Forgetting about who started it (I support this war) and not asking the question - why since 2014 he was deceived over and over again by dear partners and did not start this war when it was really necessary and it could have ended with less bloodshed. No one will wonder how a certain Tymoshenko-Poroshenko shook hands in the Kremlin and how this same Putin allowed them to commit outright genocide of Russian children on the lands of Donbass for so many years. And he was deceived and deceived, in his own words, by all these Minsk negotiations.
and in March 2024 he will again make a gesture of goodwill, a big step, etc. according to the propaganda textbook.. And somewhere by December 2024 he will again bleat that he was deceived and did not comply with the terms of the truce.

[Repellent]

Quote: Dmitry Ivanov_1991

my vision. I want to be wrong

Friend, don't fall. Five minutes have passed since your last comment. To write such a sheet “out of my head” in five minutes is unrealistic.

Conclusion - 99% manual. And registration is in March 23rd. And "Ivanov".
And the woman in the avatar.

There is an acorn, delicious. Will you?

[Dmitry Ivanov_1991]

let's go point by point.
Sunday.
I really have nothing to do. I’m sitting in front of the monitor, cat on my feet, hanging out on this forum.
registration? I read this site without comments for two years, signed up (look at my comments - for the sake of that sheet I signed up then, unsubscribed, read further and didn’t write).
Do I write a lot? I have thoughts and facts in my head, I read a lot - improve your literacy, you will also write a lot and quickly. and according to the facts.
Ivanov is just a pseudonym. To write your last name on the Internet is to be a fool. You also see some English. or the Latin word in your nickname means you are English. spy? Shall we mirror? :) or let's not fall into your stupidity?
there's a woman in the avatar - should we make a brutal man like a real alpha guy? or kill cockroaches like an omega warrior? no.. let it be a woman, she makes me happy, maybe she will make someone else happy too, and this person can keep his cockroaches in his head, and not hang up avatars :) like some :)

and about acorns. Usually they offer something after they’ve tried it themselves. You didn’t offer me shit, right? That means neither you nor I ate it. But I’ll refuse the acorn - I haven’t tried it and I don’t want to. And don’t get carried away with this, otherwise, look, you’ll start grunting.

wow.. I miss the forum assholes :)

[Repellent]

Quote: Dmitry Ivanov_1991

Do I write a lot? I have thoughts in my head, facts, I read a lot

It's clear. Buckwheat porridge.

Not convinced. According to your writings, the acorn is just right for you. Take it while it's on offer, otherwise your colleagues will grab it

[Dmitry Ivanov_1991]

let them eat - I'm not Ukrainian, I'm not greedy.
I’m interested in asking, are you a purebred non-Pioshnik - where do you get the acorns that you give out to everyone you miss?

[Sergei Fonov]

You can take it for granted that the United States has counted cemeteries with 600 thousand burials. It remains to find the graves of another 700-odd thousand, the LBS practically does not change, it is impossible to bury without a trace in the plantings, even if not 700 thousand, but 000 - 300 thousand, unnoticed - it is impossible, and how many people are needed for this, you cannot use the equipment at the front, the trouble is, that no matter how much you write, the war continues, and people die in it, both on one side and on the other.

[Incvizitor]

The people will hate Putin for the truce with the fascist occupiers and will never forgive him, especially before the elections.

[Dmitry Ivanov_1991]

sure?
You have very little understanding of which admin resource is being used.
the same Solovyov-Kiselyov-the Skabeev couple will say from morning to evening what a great guy Putin is! that ended this war.
I say again, I REALLY want to be wrong.. But just yesterday, again, our Putin said that he was ready for negotiations.

[Incvizitor]

I understand that before the elections it is stupid and pointless to anger the people, with or without the Kiselyov Nightingales, especially the old ladies watching them in the kitchen.

[Lptsk]

This is not a throw-in. Kolomoisky channel. And somewhere, plus or minus, this is true

[acetophenone]

It won't be possible to achieve it. And the next generation will grow up rotten again.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

It depends on what borders Ukraine will remain in, if it remains at all. Much will also depend on the attitude towards Ukrainians and pan-Ukrainianism in Russia itself.

[Bolt cutter]

the next generation will grow up rotten again.

The next generation will not have most of the women who are fit for business, either already abroad, or will soon be sent there. And having dumped them, they will give birth to little Germans and Czechs.

[Msi]

And having dumped them, they will give birth to little Germans and Czechs.

Not a fact...maybe the skin of outskirts residents will darken significantly. The indigenous people of Europe do not really want to be fruitful and multiply.

[Dmitry Ivanov_1991]

I read the article yesterday.
In Europe, there is a very large number of rape complaints from Ukrainian refugees. Cause? What is rape is when the deed was done and not paid.
So - partially - Ukrainian women are already diluting themselves there and preparing new fatherless offspring.

[your1970]

Quote: Bolt Cutter

the next generation will grow up rotten again.

The next generation will not have most of the women who are fit for business, either already abroad, or will soon be sent there. And having dumped them, they will give birth to little Germans and Czechs.

This will be the biggest problem this territory will have - the small population. Restoration and development of the territory will be problematic..

[Ezekiel 25-17]

This is not a typo; The losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine can indeed be very large: I would say that between 500 and 750 thousand soldiers and officers were killed, plus missing persons. It is also possible that Kolomoisky is thus taking revenge on Zelensky, who betrayed him, by publishing classified data from Zaluzhny: or maybe the Great Game from the Yankees to merge Zelensky has begun...

[Ezekiel 25-17]

Quote: acetophenon

It won't be possible to achieve it. And the next generation will grow up rotten again.

It takes two to have a baby...

[Incvizitor]

And these two must be male and female

[futurohunter]

Incvizitor
And these two must be male and female

You forgot to say that you are still of reproductive age and healthy enough to conceive and bear a child.
Plus, they must want to give birth to him

[krops777]

Well, as if taking into account the problems with mobilization in the 404th, the mob resource is coming to its logical end, then the announced figure is very real, add more wounded and a human catastrophe looms, it’s no wonder that they want to call up 17 year old boys and 70 year old men.

[tabletkin73]

These are not just losses. So many people will never have children again. And the conveyor doesn't stop!

[Horn]

To be honest, it’s not a pity. In the third round, it is practically useless to brainwash them. Better to recycle. Much more than a million were jumping and screaming about the “gilyak”. And after the House of Trade Unions of Odessa, everything west of the Dnieper should be plowed up and sprinkled with salt.

[Lina Shuvalova]

The losses of the Ukronazis are shocking! And I want to know our losses! And when will this war end? I was from the very beginning - FOR saving Russians in Donbass, I understand that Bandera’s Nazis, under the control of Jews, turned Ukraine into Ukroreich and the life of Russians in Ukraine is worth nothing, that during these years of Ukraine’s independence, Bandera-Jewish Nazis reformatted both Russian children and adults, history invented by Nazi savages, with a rejection of the Soviet past! However, the same thing is happening in Russia! The ruling class of the bourgeoisie is waging war at the expense of our Russian and Russian men and at the same time turning Russia into an Asian country, which without an ethnic Russian majority cannot exist as an integral state! The capitalist system in Russia will not be able to withstand the capitalist systems of the entire NATO! The ruling class of capitalists, led by Putin (full name does not matter), are leading Russia to destruction. AND THE FACT THAT ETHNIC RUSSIANS HAVE BEEN DYING OUT ALL THESE 30 YEARS OF CAPITALISM SAYS THAT RUSSIA IS COMING TO THE END! We want this:?

[Dmitry Ivanov_1991]

Put a plus.
I read all the comments - I was looking for something similar. Everyone is so happy about the enemy’s losses that they don’t think about their own.
Even if we take the mythical ones - voiced by Putin, that our losses are 1 to 10, and a certain Shoigu calls the same... Guys, the loss of more than 100.000 thousand of our Russians (Yeltsin’s word Russians would be more suitable, but it’s disgusting to call good people with such a word), therefore Russians (in spirit and in blood) many died.. And for 1 dead, the tactic of 3-4 wounded is always applied. Which is also not happy.
This is what you need to think about. Here's what to worry about...
And we need to feel sorry for our people more than to rejoice at the death of Ukrainians.

[Irokez]

Quote: Dmitry Ivanov_1991

and a certain Shoigu

Are you clearly standing up for Russia here, or like the TsEPSO officers, are you quietly stirring up trouble?

[Dmitry Ivanov_1991]

I cannot treat this man with respect (and write his last name with a capital letter) after he cowardly ran away from Rostov when Prigozhin went there. This Shoigu was not on TV for a month, in official reports, etc. A man has disappeared.
I can’t treat him with respect when his daughter is appointed to good feeding positions and her company suddenly receives state government. orders for holding exhibitions on military topics, mastering multi-million dollar government. orders. I understand that someone else with the last name Ivanov could have been in her place, but for some reason her talent and experience turned out to be more in demand. Her last name and relationship with her dad have nothing to do with it - she is successful and talented. Like all children of officials.
I can’t treat their family with respect when the whole country is collecting pennies via text messages for training camps for our guys, and some idiot carpenter (the husband of Shoigu’s daughter) at the same time is bragging about how he dined at a Sochi restaurant for 42k rubles
proof - https://vk.com/wall-5158073_2939115
, and before that I collected almost half a million likes through Instagram for a marathon in order to rent the most expensive Moscow-Sochi compartment car and travel to these same Sochi within 5 days in the company of blogger friends.
proof - https://vk.com/wall-210821887_91784
Both news and material can be easily searched using query words in Yandex, if you don’t believe my proofs.

It's a spit in all of us.
and if you personally don’t see this, don’t read-watch something other than hurray-we-defeated Kiselyov, Solovyov (mind you with a capital letter. He at least goes to the Donbass and brings humanitarian aid) and the Skabeev couple - this is a minus for you, because your outlook works for the enemy and increases your illiteracy in determining who is good and who is a traitor.
this certain Shoigu, instead of reading papers at briefings, would be better off working on drones (by the way, a certain Medvedev literally woke up this week and called for building a couple of factories for their production. News from Thursday or something. That is, after two years of war, even an iron Dimon began to wise up, but not Shoigu).

[Rumata]

Quote: Dmitry Ivanov_1991

Yeltsin's word Russians

This word was introduced into circulation by Katenka the Great.

[Dmitry Ivanov_1991]

She is German - she needed to call us somehow and not get confused.
At the same time, we called ourselves Russians (from the Black Sea region to the Urals-Siberia) and foreigners also called us. But the German woman decided to call her Russians. And before that, for Europeans we were Muscovites.
By the way, if you are so smart, look up what the Germans called themselves at that moment.
I’ll make a spoiler - there were no Germans then, there was a separate name for almost every principality of the HRE.
“Germans” - a general word and concept - appeared only during the First World War, although Bismar Germany already existed.

[grindz]

The form "Russians", derived from "Russia" - the Greek-Byzantine name for Rus', is first found by Maxim the Greek in 1524. For a long time, this form was limited to the church and book sphere. Starting from the 1580s, its actualization took place primarily among the Galician-Russian Orthodox burghers and among the Lviv Assumption Brotherhood. Later it spread to Kyiv and the lands of the Russian kingdom, receiving civil distribution there by the second half of the XNUMXth century.

[Irokez]

Quote: Lina Shuvalova

RUSSIA IS COMING TO THE END! We want this:?

You probably - yes, in We - no.

[Repellent]

"Girl with a broom", log out. Yes, there is an acorn for you too. Want?

[your1970]

Quote: Repellent

"Girl with a broom", log out. Yes, there is an acorn for you too. Want?

Nostalgically - “But once upon a time there were skulls...” and public opinion quickly slammed such cockroaches.....
This does not apply to you - you his there was an opinion, not stupid slogans.
And there is no bell

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Lina Shuvalova

And when will this war end?

Patience is the best way to know the future...

[Russian guy]

The fewer fascists left, the better

[Nord11]

Well, one million three hundred thousand is certainly good, but the great white Master from Washington ordered every last one to perish..

[Incvizitor]

I just wrote about a million zagnikovs back during the failure of the counter-grunt, the Russian Federation initially had 300 thousand fighting + the VSN only 400 thousand, the grunts obviously had more and a dozen graves.
If this does not take into account the hoofless ones, there is another plus of 500 thousand tails.

[flint]

A very plausible figure. It’s surprising that the population of Little Russia, fooled by the West, still does not understand what’s what. Well, on the other hand, these are their problems, our job is to re-educate them as harshly as possible, so that in the future it will be discouraging to be Russophobic.

[The black]

Taking into account sanitary losses, this is a very real figure.

[Eug]

As for me, this is Igor Vitalievich’s hint about the possible publication of information that is very unpleasant for the ruling regime in the event of an unfavorable decision on his case.

[Ax Matt]

This is how the WEST kills the Slavs. First he fools, then he buries. How many more are wounded and maimed? At least three times more. Eh, what have you done, Ukrainians?

[solar]

Many media outlets published messages on this topic. News.ru was the most original site
https://news.ru/europe/ukrainskij-telekanal-demoralizoval-grazhdan-dannymi-o-pogibshih-bojcah-vsu/

The ticker on the Ukrainian TV channel “1+1” showed data on missing and liquidated military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but after some time they apologized for the “typo”, the Readovka Telegram channel reports. According to information from this TV channel, a total of 1 soldiers have disappeared and died in Ukraine.... Earlier, hackers from the Rodnya special forces hacked the Ukrainian TV channel ICTV. They published a video that captured a fragment of the broadcast with a running news line reporting the “death” of Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky. The hackers also wrote that “Kyiv is surrounded” and called on the Ukrainian Armed Forces to lay down their arms.

:))

[tchoni]

if this were true, freedom would have already ended, because every fifth Ukrainian citizen of male gender and military age would be lying in the ground... and so many more would be lying around hospitals... and only the female population would be found on the streets.. .. alas and ah, there is no such thing yet.. but we can assume that this is a plan for the future...

[shark507]

Quote: Gritsa

Something is too much... I think, after all, it’s really a typo

Considering that there is permanent mobilization going on there, it’s quite possible.
But I think most of this number are deserters.

[shark507]

Quote: Dmitry Ivanov_1991

I can't respect this man

RelaxSA. Useless. Still, we are one people with the Ukrainians and on our side we are exactly the same Svidomites, we just don’t give a damn about Solovyov, not Gordon - that’s the only difference.

[Pavel73]

This supposedly accidental leak is a test of the public's reaction. What to do next: continue to fight or call it a day.

[Larisa Rudykh]

He will kill all the men, but apparently he intended two lives for himself.

[kamakama]

Calculations of losses will never be completed accurately. How to take into account those who were in new territories - as losses or as refugees? How to take into account those who crossed to the other side and died there? Like other people's or your own losses? How to take into account all kinds of volunteers and mercenaries?
Depending on the methodology, the numbers may differ significantly, but still remain correct

[bone1]

More than a million losses - funny - are there any Ukrainians left?

[Dizel200]

Look how Zelya and Nazism took root. Surprisingly, these are Slavs. Yes, the Anglo-Saxons can applaud with anger. The representatives of hell did a good job. Do such losses really not bring at least a drop of reason to those in country 404?

[Azzzwer]

Come on? Do you want to say that the intensity of the fighting is like in WWII? Then everything is sad

[futurohunter]

Why in the picture at the top of the article are Russian military personnel wearing helmets with “ears” and spotted camouflage (in Ukrainian it is pixelated)???

[dementor873]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

I also bought into this (in terms of bread consumption). But do not forget that in most villages in Ukraine, 50-70 percent of villagers bake their own homemade bread. Grain for flour is received as shares by former members of collective farms. So analytics are wrong by about 30-40 percent.

In 2001, the official census gave 48.5 million including Crimea. We subtract Crimea - the permanent population of the republic as of January 1, 2014 was 1 people. We subtract Donbass - 958 million DPR, 504 million LPR (data for 2.25). Since October 1.35, 2020 million Ukrainians have received Russian citizenship, said Mishustin.
Since the beginning of the Russian military operation, more than 10,3 million people have left Ukraine, more than 6,3 million of them went to European countries, according to data from the portal of the UN High Commissioner for Refugees. Link - https://data.unhcr.org/en/situations/ukraine#_ga=2.192890026.1664651072.1659553257-296422840.1659553257.
Let's take the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions, where 1.1 million and 1.622 million lived, respectively.
Total, roughly - 48.5-1.95-2.22-1.35-6.3-1.5-1.2 (Kherson and Zaporozhye) = 33.98 million. We can give an error margin of 2-3 million.

[solar]

There are quite a lot of inaccuracies in your calculations.

Zaporozhye region, where 1.1 million and 1.622 million lived, respectively.

Most of which are in Zaporozhye itself and the agglomeration (Zaporozhye agglomeration - Population of the agglomeration
1 people)
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Запорожье
It’s similar with Kherson - half of the region’s population lived in the Kherson agglomeration.
In addition, keep in mind that many left for other territories from the Zaporozhye, Lugansk and Donetsk and Kherson regions when hostilities were approaching. In the same Donetsk region, many cities where there were battles were simply depopulated:((

Since October 2022, 1.5 million Ukrainians have received Russian citizenship, said Mishustin.

This number includes residents of Zaporozhye, Lugansk and Donetsk and Kherson regions, as well as those who left a long time ago, but only obtained citizenship now, when it has been simplified - that is, it turns out that you counted them twice.

Since the beginning of the Russian military operation, more than 10,3 million people have left Ukraine, more than 6,3 million of them went to European countries, according to data from the portal of the UN High Commissioner for Refugees.

Sorry, in your link you have other figures about the total number of people who left, much less.
Left total about 6,3 million, to Europe less than 6 million, to other countries about 400 thousand.

Clearly the calculation error is greater than you assume.

[runway-1]

During one of the television programs below, the figures for the losses of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, including the dead and missing - 1 million 126 thousand 652 people were mentioned in a creeping line.

It is not yet clear whether the data shown was real.

According to the latest data, the number of the Armed Forces of Ukraine as of November 2023 is approximately 1 million 300 thousand people.

Yes, it’s clear that it’s a typo or a teletext hack; it’s enough to compare the numbers.

[runway-1]

By the way, these numbers are also symbolic:

Gazeta.Ru It was reported that we had 2014 Ukrainian military personnel in captivity since 3574

RIA Novosti reported similar information on November 17, 2023.
And the “minusers” are “working hard” as usual...

[Anatoly_P]

The commentators' training in arithmetic is commendable! But I believe the most honest, and therefore the only one in Ukraine, television media! Since they said that they “died and went missing”
1 military personnel, so that’s what it is! Well, the only media in Ukraine won’t openly lie?! And no calls even from Ze himself can refute this information! He won't prove otherwise!

[Sergey Egorov_3]

Most likely the numbers are real, the fuss started there, the military is against block 95, Zaluzhny is openly supported by Korban, Kolomoisky’s friend, and this channel is precisely Kolomoisky’s

[Azzzwer]

Quote: Lina Shuvalova

We would like to know the truth about our losses

Well, judging by how intensely they are downvoting, these people don’t want to know the truth. Probably they are afraid)))

[Last_Knight]

Is there any reliable data about our losses?

[Azzzwer]

Quote: Dmitry Ivanov_1991

- there were no Germans then,

And what? Do you want to prove something to someone, following Zorkin? Like the Federal Republic of Germany is a dysfunctional state and needs to be demilitarized and denazified?

[polynet]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

A million or more? Wow...

Considering that these losses were for 1 hour of combat)).

Don't be fooled by the nonsense.

At least look at what’s written there, it’s just a hacker attack, otherwise they’ve already started discussing the millions in losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

For a million killed, there must be another 3 million wounded, and after all, someone else remained in the army.

And even if we believe in losses of 10:1, then we have 110 thousand dead?!

The irretrievable losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine as of October 20, 2022 amounted to 402 thousand people, including 387 thousand dead. 54 people and 000 deaths were among mercenaries and volunteers from Poland, the Baltic states and Romania. These are OSINT statistics calculated using funeral reports, morgue reports and analysis of radio, cellular and satellite communications of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

[solar]

These are OSINT statistics

OSINT is not an organization, but a way of collecting information. Therefore, the question of who calculated this remains open.

[Ivan Ivanov_36]

If there are just 1 million in the 200s, then this is downright sad for Ukraine. But I think that these are all losses, including the wounded.

[Alexander Shumeiko]

Does this number shock you? So these are acceptable losses. They will be unacceptable when the clown Ze and his closest gop are unwound to shreds. Then maybe those with whom you can negotiate peace will appear.

[Ovsigovets]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

I also bought into this (in terms of bread consumption). But do not forget that in most villages in Ukraine, 50-70 percent of villagers bake their own homemade bread. Grain for flour is received as shares by former members of collective farms. So analytics are wrong by about 30-40 percent.

I hasten to disappoint you..... in the villages they haven’t baked bread for a long time... well, only if in very remote ones..... when I was a child (and I’m 43 now) they didn’t bake bread, didn’t whip butter and sour cream.. ..everything was already bought imported from the city

[Corvair]

Tough. I would not be surprised if these figures actually turn out to be underestimated; there is a war going on to exterminate the population of the former USSR.

[French messenger]

If this were true, then there would be losses in every Ukrainian family.
But I don’t see this in any person I know from those parts. Some have lost personal property, but those killed or injured do not.
There are not very many mobilized... not like we are told that they are being vacuumed up en masse in all cities and villages.

[sgr291158]

Since it was deleted, it means the information is correct.

[dementor873]

Quote from solar

Most of which are in Zaporozhye itself and the agglomeration (Zaporozhye agglomeration - Population of the agglomeration
1 people)
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Запорожье
It’s similar with Kherson - half of the region’s population lived in the Kherson agglomeration.

I gave approximately 1.2 million to both regions.

Quote from solar

In addition, keep in mind that many left for other territories from the Zaporozhye, Lugansk and Donetsk and Kherson regions when hostilities were approaching. In the same Donetsk region, many cities where there were battles were simply depopulated:((

Data for the DPR and LPR are official census data before the start of the census, which does not include the remaining territories of these regions.

Quote from solar

This number includes residents of Zaporozhye, Lugansk and Donetsk and Kherson regions, as well as those who left a long time ago, but only obtained citizenship now, when it has been simplified - that is, it turns out that you counted them twice.

I wonder who these people are who left a long time ago and did not obtain citizenship? On January 1, the visa-free regime with Ukraine was terminated. How can the figure of 1.5 million passports affect the final calculations if there is already an error of 2-3 million?

Quote from solar

Sorry, in your link you have other figures about the total number of people who left, much less.
Only about 6,3 million left, less than 6 million to Europe, and about 400 thousand to other countries.

It turns out that 400 thousand people left for other countries, including Russia? It's not funny to you.

23.01.2020
The population of Ukraine has decreased by 2001 million people since 11,45 and amounts to 37 million people. Cabinet Minister Dmitry Dubilet announced this on Thursday, January 23, based on data from a trial population census.
“The three methods gave approximately the same result - 37,289 million people in Ukraine. Unfortunately, this figure does not include people who permanently reside abroad and in the occupied territories,” Interfax-Ukraine quotes Dubilet.
He emphasized that in Ukraine there are 20,9 million female and 17,28 million male population. Moreover, children make up 15,4% of the population.

[solar]

It turns out that 400 thousand people left for other countries, including Russia? It's not funny to you.

This is from your own link, under which you wrote completely different numbers.

said Cabinet Minister Dmitry Dubilet, based on data from a trial population census

In Kyiv, these “doublets” were replaced in countless numbers. Everyone strives to “report” something. There has been no census since 2001.

[air wolf]

Over the course of two years, 1,2 million Bandera members were sent to Bandera and these are real numbers, they have about 3 million conscripts. it was, there are still about 2 ml left, those wars will last for three or four years, and if there is a positional war, then for all five, and it looks like all of us former military personnel will be called up by order, all the healthy men of Russia will have to go through Ukraine...

[Roman Efremov]

If this number is all irretrievable losses, then it may well be. Only killed - hardly, too many.
Here they persistently ask: how much do we have? Divide by 5 - Putin has repeatedly voiced this proportion.

[polynet]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

I also bought into this (in terms of bread consumption). But do not forget that in most villages in Ukraine, 50-70 percent of villagers bake their own homemade bread. Grain for flour is received as shares by former members of collective farms. So analytics are wrong by about 30-40 percent.

They haven’t baked for a long time, they buy everything. That was earlier.

[polynet]

Quote: Ivan Ivanov_36

If there are just 1 million in the 200s, then this is downright sad for Ukraine. But I think that these are all losses, including the wounded.

But how to count those whom the sun burned? And were they counted?

[polynet]

Quote: Roman Efremov

If this number is all irretrievable losses, then it may well be. Only killed - hardly, too many.
Here they persistently ask: how much do we have? Divide by 5 - Putin has repeatedly voiced this proportion.

Well, dividing by 5 was at first the NWO, now the gap is much larger, although losses are growing on both sides.