Military Review

The ships of the Russian Navy go to the Mediterranean Sea

55
The ships of the Russian Navy go to the Mediterranean SeaBlack Sea ships sent to the Eastern Mediterranean fleet Russian Federation led by the cruiser "Moscow". Groupings of the Northern and Baltic Fleets advanced to the same part of the world ocean
Earlier, a large landing ship of the Black Sea Fleet of Russia, the Saratov, passed through the Straits. The detachment of the ships of the Pacific Fleet as part of a large anti-submarine ship Marshal Shaposhnikov is located in the waters of the Indian Ocean, not far from the Persian Gulf. If necessary, this squadron can quickly pass through Suez and also end up in the Eastern Mediterranean. What is the reason for such activity of the Russian Navy?

Of course, Russian warships are not sent to the Mediterranean with cruise targets. This is a demonstration of the flag off the coast in Syrian civil war. But this is not something that many people now write about in the Western and Turkish media. As if Moscow intends to carry out a plan to evacuate the Russians, and even remove President Bashar al-Assad from Syria.

The official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry resolutely refuted such rumors, just as the presence of the "secret American-Russian scenario." At the same time, many drew attention to the fact that on the eve of the appearance of Russian warships in the Mediterranean, the United States pulled out the aircraft carrier Eisenhower, the landing helicopter carrier Iwo Jima and two destroyers. This decision in the White House was explained by the need to "reduce tensions in the region."

This is due to the fact that, as the UN special envoy to Syria Brahimi stated, "the situation in Syria is a great danger not only for the Syrian people, but also for neighboring countries and the world as a whole." Moreover, according to Brahimi, in this country "in addition to the armed forces of the Syrian opposition, there are also extremist groups."

In this regard, attention is drawn to the determination with which the French armed forces act in Mali against Islamic extremist groups. Moreover, they act, according to the representative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia Gennady Gatilov, in accordance with international law.

This suggests that the positions of the West and Russia regarding the prospects for a Syrian settlement are beginning to converge because of fears that in Damascus, the Assad regime will be replaced by the same extremist groups as in Mali. The presence of al-Qaida in Syria was confirmed at a meeting of the Israeli government and Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu.

And what about Turkey? As noted by Haberturk, Ankara now needs to correctly interpret Russia's position on the Syrian issue and the strengthening of the presence of its navy in the Eastern Mediterranean. Against this background, as Haberturk recommends, it is time for the Turkish diplomacy to take more decisive steps towards a politico-diplomatic settlement of the Syrian crisis. Otherwise, she is in danger of falling out of the global diplomatic ensemble.
Originator:
http://rus.ruvr.ru
55 comments
Ad

Subscribe to our Telegram channel, regularly additional information about the special operation in Ukraine, a large amount of information, videos, something that does not fall on the site: https://t.me/topwar_official

Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must sign in.
  1. YARY
    YARY 16 January 2013 19: 28
    +57
    Everything that happens off the coast of Syria IS an affirmation of a simple truth. Syria is strong, it rebuffed - it did not go either politically or militarily. With a strong opponent ready to fight to the death, and having the support of RUSSIA-SySyShA can not get in touch!

    About dirty mongrels, I don’t want to talk about a pack of b-bk.
    Power is respected everywhere! And if they do not respect it, let them be afraid!
    It remains to "take stock" with the remaining gangs and CLOSE the border with Turkey - and Syria will recover.
    And again, the RUSSIANs will be remembered as friends, and the Syrians LONGLY remember this.
    1. Sleptsoff
      Sleptsoff 16 January 2013 19: 44
      -15
      I don’t think that everything is as good in Syria as they want to present to us. There is practically no news from there now, explosions continue, the Russian embassy is temporarily closed, and the ships just won’t go there. On the contrary, the situation is heating up and the victory of the CAA is not guaranteed.
      1. Ascetic
        Ascetic 16 January 2013 21: 22
        +24
        Quote: Sleptsoff
        There is practically no news from there now, explosions continue, the Russian embassy is temporarily closed, and the ships just won’t go there. On the contrary, the situation is heating up and the victory of the CAA is not guaranteed.


        There’s more than enough news. Temporarily closed consulate in Aleppo due to a major terrorist attack at the university. The embassy in Damascus is functioning. Now evaluate the scale of our citizens in Syria if, in addition to the embassy, ​​there is also a consulate. Therefore, ships with landing. Well, the last victory of the CAA is not guaranteed, and the regime is about to fall, these mantras are heard for almost two years

        Syria: combat activity summary for January 15, 2013
        My webpage



        . On the front line in Daraya



        In early January, terrorists completely lost the so-called "war for airfields"
        The rebels "failed to achieve even minimal success in order to raise a declining morale in the ranks of the SSA," Al-Vatan news service reported. Government forces repelled all the enemy’s attempts to approach the airfields in Managa, Kveiras and Neurab, on the outskirts of Aleppo. They also suppressed firing points of fighters in the vicinity of the international airport of the northern capital.

        My webpage

        Now they have changed tactics, switched to a terrorist war against the population in order to demoralize the people and cause dissatisfaction with the authorities, cynically declaring to the whole world that it was the Assad special services that blew up the university in Aleppo and today
        At least 24 people were victims of a series of bombings in the province of Idlib in northwestern Syria, the London-based Syrian Human Rights Watch said on Wednesday. About 35 injured.

        My webpage
        Tactics are not new. The militants in Chechnya also began to operate at the time when they were defeated in the war with our army.

        Well, for clarity, how do the Western media do Syrian news

        1. YARY
          YARY 16 January 2013 21: 28
          +9


          The actions, allegedly serving the democratization in Syria, gave rise to the opposition in the form of extremist Islamists


          Former Prime Minister of the Russian Federation, Academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences Yevgeny Primakov, speaking at a meeting of the Mercury Club, said that the events in Syria are one of the consequences of the struggle between Islamic movements. The academician pointed out that it was with the US operation in Iraq that the imbalance in the overall situation in the Middle East began, a bloody struggle broke out.

          “The tragedy of today's Syria is one of the consequences of such a gap. At the same time, the actions, supposedly serving the democratization in this country, gave rise to opposition to the Syrian regime in the form of a community controlled by the international of extremist Islamists, ”Primakov said.

          He noted that in the Middle East, after the so-called “Arab spring”, a period of frost began, and Islamic forces intensified.

          According to Primakov, it would be wrong to consider all of them as a single whole. Among these forces there are moderate Islamists, with whom along the way to representatives of other religions and secular states. But there are radicals and extremists who seek to impose on society principles and ideas that are far from true Islam.

          The president of the Mercury Club pointed out that the future of the Middle East and North Africa now depends not only on the policies of the leading world powers, but also on the balance of power between moderate Islamists and radicals.
      2. Bashkaus
        Bashkaus 17 January 2013 15: 18
        +1
        Sleptsoff myo you plus, but it is more expensive than 16 minuses)))
        Something cheers the patriots were excited, of course I myself FOR Syria, For Assad, For protection to the end, incl. using force arguments.
        But as they say, the truth is somewhere in the middle. Certainly Assad has achieved some success. NATO has not yet begun the invasion, and in this regard, YARYY is right, but your truth is no less. If everything there was so good that it was possible to relax, then in this case our inter-naval group would not wander around like scalded back and forth, but stood quietly in the bases, well, maybe sometimes for prevention, the cruiser captain would go out on the radio, facing a passing American to the ship "you hear it, tell your own people that it would not be too gonosilia, otherwise I will come and punish ..." Then I would also put you a minus, but this is not so, so definitely PLUS)))
    2. beech
      beech 16 January 2013 19: 47
      +1
      well said +
    3. Army1
      Army1 16 January 2013 22: 10
      +1
      Sumptuously
    4. yak69
      yak69 17 January 2013 01: 40
      +1
      Syria is still alive only because Russia, China and Iran support it. But, something about Jordan is not heard. Not so long ago, their king (Abdullah 2) flew almost every week to the Wowan to have dinner, but now you can't see him. Quiet like that. Or has he gone over to the camp of our sworn "friends"?
    5. tor11121
      tor11121 17 January 2013 07: 25
      0
      completely to the point, washed the Americans in Syria. demonstration of power. more and not required. and let all the Western media screech. the dog barks wears wind.
    6. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 17 January 2013 14: 29
      +1
      YARY
      You + per comment.
      As I said earlier, there are several reasons for the ongoing war of the Syrian government army and militants hired from more than 20 countries:
      1) Militant Financing Gulf countries.
      2) Technical and armed support for militants NATO countries.
      3) Instructor Training NATO countries
      4) Militant Training Camps in Turkey, Jordan, Qatar, Libya, etc.
      5) Movement of militant groups hired, trained in camps, equipped with guns and equipment of militants.
      6) Recruitment of volunteers within Syria in SSA from the local Sunnis.

      So, given the above described how and what can the Syrian government do to halt the massacre? What item do you need to hit for the whole structure to begin to crumble? What can Russia offer as a political, military partner?
      Think about the weakest point in this structure.
  2. Akim
    Akim 16 January 2013 19: 34
    0
    SW friends! Do you know that the British transport Russian cargoes to the French interventionists in Mali?
    [img] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlW8p5_lnnw [/ img]
  3. Akim
    Akim 16 January 2013 19: 35
    +6
    SW friends! Do you know that the British transport Russian cargoes to the French interventionists in Mali?
    1. YARY
      YARY 16 January 2013 19: 39
      +15
      Mali is a separate "song". Believe me, there will be better French people than "Muslim Brothers" negative
      1. Akim
        Akim 16 January 2013 19: 48
        +7
        Quote: Ardent
        Believe me, there will be better French people than "Muslim Brothers"

        Okay. I don’t know Arabic. I asked friends, they say almost the same thing is written:
        Allies of France (rebels) in Syria

        Enemies (rebels) in Mali:
      2. Papakiko
        Papakiko 16 January 2013 20: 52
        +7
        Shpak has a tape recorder .......
        The Ambassador has a locket .....
        Do you, in pioneer-Octobryatsky style, think that these are different plays?
        And which side of Mali is Al-Qaeda?
        In Syria and Libya, against the "legitimate" government and in support of NATE.
        In Afghanistan against NATE and NATE "fights" with them there. (Back with the Taliban, I almost forgot feel )

        For what NATE is fighting in Mali, for what "democratic values"?
        1. Akim
          Akim 16 January 2013 20: 59
          +4
          Papakiko,
          I think for the same as the SNC in Syria. It's just that they are profitable in Syria, but not there.
        2. berserk1967
          berserk1967 17 January 2013 03: 29
          +3
          And everything is very simple, Assad conducts an independent sovereign domestic and foreign policy without bending under the West, and in Mali, a pro-Western puppet government is in power. That's the whole layout.
    2. Nastyusha
      Nastyusha 16 January 2013 19: 39
      -34
      I am proud of France!
      1. Victor
        Victor 16 January 2013 19: 57
        +18
        Quote: Nastya
        I am proud of France!


        fool fool fool fool fool fool
      2. biglow
        biglow 16 January 2013 20: 09
        +17
        Nastyusha,
        blacks are waiting for you there
      3. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm 16 January 2013 22: 36
        +5
        Quote: Nastya
        I am proud of France!

        France will not forget you
      4. maxon109
        maxon109 17 January 2013 00: 27
        +3
        again the troll is here, already sickened
        1. Sergh
          Sergh 17 January 2013 01: 39
          0
          Quote: maxon109
          again the troll is here, sickened

          YES IT'S NOT TROHL - IT'S IT - TROL!
    3. Victor
      Victor 16 January 2013 20: 06
      +8
      Volga-Dnepr is a private airline specializing in the transportation of heavy and heavy cargo worldwide. Well done that make money. And Yariy is right, Mali is a separate song.
      1. Akim
        Akim 16 January 2013 20: 15
        +3
        Victor,

        I do not want to touch politics, but I imagine that you should say that Ruslana is Antonov Airlines.
        1. El13
          El13 16 January 2013 20: 34
          +1
          They would say, they would certainly say, but how do you want? fellow
          Just kidding, of course, they would say ... such is nature.
        2. Akim
          Akim 18 January 2013 12: 06
          0
          Akim,
          I criticized Volga-Dnepr there, but Antonov also does not remain:
    4. igor67
      igor67 16 January 2013 20: 38
      +7
      Akim,
      So what? The British use AN124, since the beginning of the 90s, (91-92 years) I was in Gastomel, in 92, almost all planes had British flags and the inscription British Sheyrlens. And the coupons that were up to the hryvnia, when I had such a machine landed, three armored KAMAZs drove out and, accompanied by OMON, left.
      1. Akim
        Akim 16 January 2013 20: 45
        -3
        igor67,
        I do not know. I have always been taught that 'this is bringing a third party into conflict. Of course, the insurgents in Mali will not declare a jihad on Russia, but the subject itself is important. Or has the UN already given a sanction?
        1. Victor
          Victor 16 January 2013 21: 16
          +7
          Quote: Akim
          Or has the UN already sanctioned?

          The sanction was issued yesterday, including the approval of Russia and China.
          1. Akim
            Akim 16 January 2013 21: 42
            0
            Quote: Victor
            The sanction was issued yesterday, including the approval of Russia and China.

            Apparently I missed it. But the loading date is January 14th. A day earlier.
            1. Botanologist
              Botanologist 16 January 2013 23: 29
              +4
              This suggests that the positions of the West and Russia regarding the prospects for a Syrian settlement are starting to come closer because of fears that in Damascus the al-Assad regime will be replaced by extremist groups like in Mali

              Absolutely wrong. This rather suggests that we will not be strongly opposed in Syria, and we will not start fighting for it in Africa. Politics - pushing concessions for concessions.
              Moreover, the most greyhound of the politicians in Europe, Orland is now stuck in Mali, he is not up to Syria. Well, in the hands of a flag, and a rusty anchor in jo-poo. Move zinc from Africa, look at European tolerance.
            2. Ascetic
              Ascetic 17 January 2013 00: 34
              +1
              Quote: Akim
              Apparently I missed it. But the loading date is January 14th. A day earlier.


              The sanction was issued at the beginning of LAST YEAR, the French and their colleagues and bosses just pulled from across the ocean, Syria was the main object and reached the point that even a little hello was the new Taliban in Mali and there and in all the Maghreb countries.
        2. igor67
          igor67 16 January 2013 21: 18
          +3
          Akim,
          But in Mali there are a lot of former graduates of Ukrainian universities, in the 80s normal guys were friends with two, I was taught French,
          1. Akim
            Akim 16 January 2013 21: 36
            -1
            Quote: igor67
            But in Mali there are a lot of former graduates of Ukrainian universities

            Igor, why are you doing this?
            1. igor67
              igor67 16 January 2013 21: 52
              +5
              Akim,
              I just remembered, you were too politicized, remembered what connected with Mali, and the Volga-Dnepr transportation companies probably didn’t know how to make money, I looked more than once at the geographic magazine about how various cargoes are transported to these countries in different countries, including including weapons, especially since there is a UN sanction, Pokemon.
              1. Akim
                Akim 16 January 2013 22: 04
                -1
                Quote: igor67
                we are too politicized

                No way, I just gave the information. And the fact that I called them interventionists is not for me to speak about English. He is your state. but they already said about the UN sanction. earlier.
                1. igor67
                  igor67 16 January 2013 22: 08
                  +3
                  Akim,
                  We have state Hebrew and Arabic, we also wanted Russian, but it is unlikely to pass, and English, like everywhere else, is the language of interethnic communication
                  1. Akim
                    Akim 16 January 2013 22: 14
                    0
                    And when was the English removed ?. I remember saying in the 48th there were three languages. Hebrew, Russian. English. Then the Russian was removed. added arabic.
                    1. igor67
                      igor67 16 January 2013 22: 23
                      +3
                      Akim,
                      I don’t know, we have all the signs and safety instructions at work in three languages: Hebrew Arabic and Russian (although I repeat Russian is not state)
              2. Ascetic
                Ascetic 17 January 2013 00: 49
                +2
                igor67,

                First, the Volga-Dnepr company is NATO’s official partner in air transportation. By the way, Isaikin has set such a price for the delivery of NATO troops to Ulyanovsk that they still do not dare to use such a service. Nobody said it was easy. Business .. monopoly. Secondly, the fleet of this company is most suitable for such operations.
                It consists of two leading cargo airlines in Russia - Volga-Dnepr and AirBridgeCargo. The core business of the Volga-Dnepr Group is charter air transportation on unique An-124-100 and Il-76 ramp aircraft (Volga-Dnepr airline ») And regular air cargo transportation on aircraft of the Boeing 747 family (AirBridgeCargo Airlines).
                Today Volga-Dnepr Airlines is the world leader in this area and the world's largest operator of An-124 aircraft.
                The airline fleet consists of 10 An-124-100 Ruslan aircraft and 5 Il-76TD-90V aircraft (upgraded versions of the Il-76), which meet all modern and future requirements of ICAO and operate flights around the world without restrictions. Aircraft were released between 2006-2010. at the Tashkent Aviation Production Association named after V.P. Chkalov.

                joint venture
                Ruslan SALIS Gmbh

                The joint venture on a parity basis of the Volga-Dnepr Group of Companies (Russia) and ANTK im. O.K. Antonova (Ukraine), founded in 2004 in Leipzig, is the winner of an international tender for the provision of aviation transport services to ensure anti-terrorism, peacekeeping and humanitarian operations. Currently, 17 European countries and Canada are participating in the SALIS (Strategic Airlift Interim Solution) project.
                joint venture
                Ruslan International Ltd

                The joint venture Ruslan International, created in July 2006 by Volga-Dnepr Airlines (Russia) and Antonova Airlines (Ukraine) with the goal of maximizing the effective use of the An-124-100 commercial fleet, has become a single marketing agent in the international transportation market using aircraft data. In total, the company owns 17 Ruslans (Volga-Dnepr Airlines - 10, and Antonov Airlines - 7 aircraft).

                In 2001, Volga-Dnepr was the only airline whose aircraft were used to transport goods to Afghanistan for an international alliance led by the United States. After the start of the military campaign to overthrow the Taliban, the airline took and is still actively involved in humanitarian operations in the country.

                Here is some more recent news. Finally, we decided on orders for BTA
                Defense Ministry determines priorities in orders of military transport aircraft
                My webpage
    5. Hammer
      Hammer 17 January 2013 02: 44
      +2
      Quote: Akim
      SW friends! Do you know that the British transport Russian cargoes to the French interventionists in Mali?

      Those who howl there against the French are also interventionists in their essence. Alkaida are also international (rabble from all over the world) interventionists.
      So let them carry, the more we take out to Mali, the less they will put pressure on Syria.
      So for us and Syria - Mali is like manna from heaven. At home, the Syrian army and people stuffed all this scum full of cucumbers, they don’t shine there. Well, besides death. Therefore, with the start of a new war in Mali, most of this marginal rabble will go there. And good riddance. High roll, further from Damascus.
      And to be honest, vague doubts gnaw at me about such a "timeliness" of the conflict in Mali. There are suspicions that Mali is some kind of a strategy of retreating from Syria ... After all, NATO and the United States cannot openly admit that they have done well in Syria.
      And against the backdrop of a new war and relevant informational support, Western public will quickly forget about Syria.
      In general, no matter how cynical it sounds, politically, the war in Mali benefits everyone ....
      Of course, it's IMHO.
    6. berserk1967
      berserk1967 17 January 2013 03: 24
      0
      Well, where did you see here that the AN-124 is loaded with military equipment, weapons or equipment. In addition to one container, it is unknown with what and some bags I did not see anything there. And where the plane flies, so here are generally incomprehensible, there is a take-off, but where did he land?
      Before throwing in such information, check it carefully and do not mislead people.
  4. Sleptsoff
    Sleptsoff 16 January 2013 19: 40
    +4
    Why to the interventionists? President Mali himself asked France to contribute to the fight against gangs, the UN approved, Russia is not against it either.
    1. Akim
      Akim 16 January 2013 19: 52
      0
      Intervention from English. means "interference". So they are invaders too.
      1. Sleptsoff
        Sleptsoff 17 January 2013 16: 45
        0
        The word "intervention" has a more complete definition, I will not decipher it, but it has a negative meaning, learn to read to the end.
    2. Atlon
      Atlon 16 January 2013 20: 31
      +7
      Quote: Sleptsoff
      Russia is not against it either.

      Why should we be against it? The more "democrats" get involved in various wars with "savages", the better we are. wink
    3. Papakiko
      Papakiko 16 January 2013 20: 56
      +4
      Is this "conservative" popularly elected or appointed?
      At least Wikipedia was revered chtol, for starters.
      The USSR also entered Afghanistan by invitation.
      "Zamorezatsy" were also invited to Vietnam.
      Do not see matches?
    4. NEMO
      NEMO 16 January 2013 23: 47
      0
      Quote: Sleptsoff
      President Mali himself asked France to contribute to the fight against gangs, the UN approved Russia is not against it either.

      I propose to hear Comrade M. Margelov on the question - why Russia supports the military operation in Mali:

  5. Victor
    Victor 16 January 2013 19: 42
    +10
    Yes, one hundred percent, some agreements are already there. Amers would never have removed their fleet from the zone where the Russian squadron is heading. This has never been and never will be, at least for now, if there are no backstage arrangements. Moreover, Russia and China approved the introduction of French troops in Mali.
    Exchange made. The world began to divide. The main thing is that our leader has enough strength and political will.
    1. sergey261180
      sergey261180 16 January 2013 20: 00
      -14
      Mali has more oil. Assad scared, he will be more accommodating right now.
      1. Mitek
        Mitek 16 January 2013 22: 00
        +7
        Assad is more accommodating?)))) After rapping the American-NATO mercenaries with the disguised special forces of America, England and France?))) Do you seriously think so?
      2. botur2013
        botur2013 16 January 2013 22: 15
        +7
        Two years they scared me, but somehow they didn’t scare him. A real leader, and most importantly, he really proved that a small state is able to withstand a pidermocratic machine.
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 16 January 2013 22: 22
          +3
          botur2013
          Well, it depends on where you look. For us Israelis, Syria is a large state. In area 10 times more than Israel and four times the population.
          1. botur2013
            botur2013 16 January 2013 23: 04
            +3
            You still compare with Monaco.
          2. Ascetic
            Ascetic 17 January 2013 01: 02
            +7
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            Well, it depends on where you look. For us Israelis, Syria is a large state. In area 10 times more than Israel and four times the population.


            Big or small state - Israel?
            - Of course, this is a large and powerful state. Otherwise, his name would simply be Izya.
    2. hrych
      hrych 16 January 2013 20: 07
      +6
      Yes, and if landing ships can be suspected of evacuating, etc., the missile cruiser is very formidable (hello to Riyadh).
    3. Atlon
      Atlon 16 January 2013 20: 32
      +7
      Quote: Victor
      Amers would never have removed their fleet from the zone where the Russian squadron is heading. This has never been and will notanyway for now

      Get used to it!
    4. sergskak
      sergskak 16 January 2013 20: 44
      +5
      Quote: Victor
      Exchange made. The world began to divide.

      I also adhere to this version, otherwise why would such a contingent be driven there, either specific combat missions or a waste of money.
  6. erased
    erased 16 January 2013 19: 46
    +3
    Let's see what happens during the winter-spring. Then something will become clear.
  7. patriot2
    patriot2 16 January 2013 19: 50
    +9
    It’s good that our Navy ships are going to support Syria! Assad did not bend!
    Their aircraft carrier is gone, the helicopter carrier and two destroyers too! Amers do not want a second "Caribbean crisis", there will be no "sea battle" so passionately desired by some forces! Reason must prevail over ambition.
    Quote: Ardent
    And again, the RUSSIANs will be remembered as friends, and the Syrians LONGLY remember this.
    SUPPORT!
  8. Volkhov
    Volkhov 16 January 2013 20: 11
    -4
    The article is exactly the opposite - ships leave from there.
    http://warfiles.ru/show-21669-dva-desantnyh-korablya-baltiyskogo-flota-proshli-d
    ardanelly-v-chernoe-more-fotoreportazh.html
    The smaller part remained with 1 BDK, apparently the landing plans were prudently canceled.
    1. Volkhov
      Volkhov 16 January 2013 20: 54
      +2
      The minus as a sign of attention is beautiful, if only there are more details - why they leave quickly and quietly, otherwise the options are still a bit too much - an epidemic, Assad note, third forces, a resource, or decided to go through Turkey - how to exclude too much?
  9. old rocket man
    old rocket man 16 January 2013 20: 13
    +10
    Here’s your grandmother and St. George’s Day, this article, but to God’s ears.
    Russia did not bend, Europe had to bend with the "Hegemon", and here some measured the pipette of two fleets, it turned out that it was not size that mattered, but potency drinks
    1. YARY
      YARY 16 January 2013 20: 25
      +4
      Uv Igor! hi

      Amused so amused !! laughing
      SUSHYA they sc-k important (important) But crap starts unexpectedly and from important to impotent you can jump quickly laughing
      1. YARY
        YARY 16 January 2013 20: 31
        +9
        It would be necessary to change their Statue of their Freedom for this ..... miracle. laughing
        1. kostyan77708
          kostyan77708 17 January 2013 07: 02
          +4
          better at it
  10. Arthurian
    Arthurian 16 January 2013 20: 16
    +2
    Shaposhnikov if Che also jumps with a support group! angry This makes me happy, otherwise I thought it would be necessary without the Pacific.
  11. afire
    afire 16 January 2013 20: 27
    +6
    Nastyusha,
    I think you're not the kind of person you claim to be.
  12. Arthurian
    Arthurian 16 January 2013 20: 28
    +4
    You know, such a thought also visits my head, but what if the RSA is really in this situation now, we agreed not to intervene when Russia helps to cleanse Syria. Then there will simply be all kinds of indignation in the media, etc. And the third world will not happen. What do you think this my thought is stupid? If so, I'll delete it right away. But tell me why this option (or approximately) can not be.
    1. El13
      El13 16 January 2013 20: 41
      +7
      Russia will only help cleanse Syria with technical assistance (weapons, humanitarian supplies), which it has been doing for a long time, and our troops will not cleanse Syria from bandits, so the idea is silly in this part. But what is agreed, it is necessary extra. wait for the information, everything is very contradictory and somehow it suddenly ... no, there’s an odd couple.
  13. Nikolko
    Nikolko 16 January 2013 20: 36
    +6
    For some reason, it seems to me that the topic is a picture feel
  14. Arthurian
    Arthurian 16 January 2013 20: 52
    -1
    B .. what to do, you have to go home, otherwise suddenly the mess will start and then they will not let me go or they will say a Greek spy belay
  15. Marine One
    Marine One 16 January 2013 20: 52
    +3
    What can I say here: from a certain point of view (if you do not take into account the version about the conspiracy of Russia-USA regarding Syria), the actions of the Russian authorities are quite understandable. In the end, Syria, along with Assad, is the last thing we inherited from Soviet geopolitical power and influence. Waving a hand at them means actually subscribing to the fact that Russia cannot in any way influence events in the world, does not want and is not ready.

    And one more fact is indicative here, unfortunately: for any serious demonstration of the flag one has to drag forces from all 4 fleets. At the same time, there is no air wing, AWACS - forget it, and the strike capabilities of the group are directly doubtful in comparison with the departed 6th fleet. We weakened. Strongly weakened, damn him.
    1. El13
      El13 16 January 2013 23: 26
      +2
      Remember the story of water in a glass to the middle? ... We have strengthened, greatly strengthened.
      1. Marine One
        Marine One 17 January 2013 00: 00
        +3
        Quote: ocopnik
        We strengthened, greatly strengthened

        Of course I remember. However, rabid optimism is not peculiar to me. Facts are a stubborn thing: do not be behind our Mediterranean nuclear shield ... then, alas ...
        1. El13
          El13 17 January 2013 12: 35
          0
          Praaally ... But if you compare with the end of the 90s, when the stocks of nuclear heads were no less ... in short, the question is the point of reference. If you take the USSR as such, then you are undoubtedly right, but since 1913 we have been comparing ... oh, pah, with the dashing nineties ... everything has already changed. lol
  16. ocopnik
    ocopnik 16 January 2013 21: 09
    +1
    Are the "vigorous states" preparing to use tactical nuclear weapons? And what, we have no contracts for this territory. And who fired there: not that I-an, not that Is-ail, or maybe the hotbeds of der - cratia themselves? After all, they still need to solve the issue of financial default. War is the solution to the main problems of Shu She Ah!
  17. Arthurian
    Arthurian 16 January 2013 21: 11
    +4
    El13,
    understand, thank you.
    It is possible that everything will be approximately the same. Syria has been suffering for so long and it feels like only Russia can stop everything, and I have always believed in this. Well, maybe, finally, they have already decided to start openly. Everyone is tired of this war, especially the Syrians, and I, too, are tired of the worries about their lives. Syria is in a state of war and such a fighting detachment moors when I think about it my heart trembles even more, as if something is coming ..
    1. El13
      El13 17 January 2013 12: 41
      0
      Quote: Arturyan
      it feels like only Russia can stop everything

      Here I will express an seditious thought ... Russia is doing everything right, all this will lead to greater order in the world in the future, but with regard to Syria, it’s here, thanks to Russia, this bedlam has been going on in this form for quite some time and keeps on front pages in the media, if not for Russia, then for a long time everything would have ended up trampling Syria into the Stone Age (like Libya) and everyone would have practically forgotten about it (like about Libya), and would have moved on to the next stage.
  18. Akim
    Akim 16 January 2013 21: 17
    0
    French response to our squadron.
  19. Sergey47
    Sergey47 16 January 2013 21: 25
    +3
    Let's wait for the denouement. Well, we can’t retreat endlessly! Maybe Syria will become our new Stalingrad. I'd like to believe in it.
    1. Kuryanin
      Kuryanin 16 January 2013 21: 46
      +8
      Sergey47,
      I would like to do without Stalingrad, it will be enough to take into account our opinion and we are not bloodthirsty. But you can’t retreat. soldier
  20. 1goose3
    1goose3 16 January 2013 21: 35
    +4
    One gets the impression that, nevertheless, Russia and the United States have come to some sort of unified solution, and the solution is closer to the Russian point of view. Russia is increasing its presence, the United States, on the contrary. It looks like a concerted action, without any cries and tantrums.
    Hopefully, ours has taken a look.
  21. Alekseir162
    Alekseir162 16 January 2013 22: 23
    +2
    Quote: Sleptsoff
    With a strong opponent ready to fight to the death, and having the support of RUSSIA-SySyShA can not get in touch!

    Of course, they cannot, because they are already bogged down in Iraq and Afghanistan through their very nostrils, so that extra body movements can only catch the wave. And that would be completely inappropriate for Obama now.
  22. ochakow703
    ochakow703 16 January 2013 22: 34
    +2
    We have already become a good tradition at the slightest zavorushk to put all the troops on the ears. In this case, all the Fleets were driven. What for? So start that, and our ships were left without any support, without supply and support ... I consider such "exercises" necessary for the development of the Fleets, but according to the old Russian tradition, everything is done through w ...
    1. nycsson
      nycsson 16 January 2013 22: 53
      0
      Quote: ochakow703
      Here begin that, and our boats remained without any support, without supply and support ...

      That's for sure! One cannot but agree with you ....
  23. KRAT
    KRAT 16 January 2013 22: 35
    +3
    Quote: Nastya
    I am proud of France!

    Nastya’s accidentally, the milk on the stove didn’t run away, go see or do something useful, for example, be proud of Russia.
  24. evil
    evil 16 January 2013 22: 48
    +2
    "If necessary, this squadron can quickly pass through Suez and also end up in the Eastern Mediterranean."

    XA XA XA, through Suez will pass those who will be given the Egyptian authorities
    1. nycsson
      nycsson 16 January 2013 22: 52
      0
      Quote: angry
      those to whom Egyptian authorities will pass through Suez

      And they are dancing to the American tune!
  25. nycsson
    nycsson 16 January 2013 22: 50
    +1
    At the same time, many drew attention to the fact that on the eve of the appearance of Russian warships in the Mediterranean, the United States withdrew the Eisenhower aircraft carrier, the Iwo Jima landing helicopter carrier and two destroyers. This decision in the White House was explained by the need to "reduce tension in the region."

    A very interesting fact! Suggests thought! request
  26. evil
    evil 16 January 2013 22: 53
    +1
    evil,
    I know, I know right now, good people are throwing minuses to me, that’s who they knew
  27. Alejandro
    Alejandro 16 January 2013 23: 36
    +1
    What kind of hostilities in Syria are you talking about ??? The maximum that our small landing force can help is to help the Syrians block the border with Turkey. But even in this case, ours will be needed more to cool the Turkish hot heads, so that there would be no temptation to shoot at the Syrian border guards am . Plus a busy raid and amerovskie vessels retreating in a hurry laughing . And the border needs to be closed. Otherwise, the flow of geeks will not stop and chaos will continue.
  28. wax
    wax 16 January 2013 23: 51
    +10
    I think that our position is simple and fully complies with international law: Tartus is our base, our military and civilian personnel are there. The location of the base complies with international standards. We are not going to withdraw it, whoever some representatives of the Syrian people recognize there. So an attack on Tartus will be an attack on Russia. Who will attack? Not NATO countries, but bandits. The answer will not be long in coming in accordance with Article 51 of the UN. Here, it seems, we have decided on this. Several shells fell on Turkey and, please, Patriots. Well, it can fly to our base. As soon as we made up our minds and warned, NATO members distanced themselves, especially since they swear and swear that they will not climb into Syria, they say there is only internal opposition against the criminal regime. We also confirmed that we do not intend to intervene in the internal Syrian conflict. Assad got a chance to calmly clean up the bandits before the summer. With weapons, as we helped, we will continue to help in accordance with the agreements. And it’s natural to share intelligence, train specialists in accordance with contracts. Somehow the situation unfolds. A game of nerves, the information war will continue. As for Turkey, I think Erdogan shouldn't have listened to Putin in vain, that the Patriots are not the best weapon. And then Khamenei banned work on the creation of an atomic bomb. How can one justify the aggression against Iran? Even if Iran, in accordance with the treaty with Syria, will help the legitimate government of Syria. Here and Mali arrived in time as an argument for the need to suppress the "rebels" associated with al-Qaeda in Syria. Putin does everything the way. Keep it up!
  29. Alejandro
    Alejandro 17 January 2013 00: 34
    +1
    Quote: Wax
    So the attack on Tartus will be an attack on Russia. Who will attack? Not NATO countries, but bandits. The answer will not take long in accordance with Article 51 of the UN. Here, it seems, we have decided on this.

    I also think that protecting the base is the main goal of these maneuvers. Well, the moral support of the Syrians. A runaway amers is a bonus smile .
  30. BOEC007
    BOEC007 17 January 2013 02: 11
    -10
    They will sink in the same place if the Murakans hid the aircraft carrier and the aircraft just do them destroy these Russian Navy. and everything is more or less у Russian’s and so few that just do swim so just do nothing left because the Russians sold everything
    1. Centuri0n
      Centuri0n 17 January 2013 07: 01
      +1
      Did you go to school? I think you just listened to a high school curriculum for several years.
      I don’t even want to minus you flawed.
  31. KOPBYC
    KOPBYC 17 January 2013 02: 15
    +1
    BOEC007
    They will sink in the same place if the Murakans hid the aircraft carrier and the aircraft just do them destroy these Russian Navy. and everything is more or less у Russian’s and so few that just do swim so just do nothing left because the Russians sold everything
    ,
    Do not carry nonsense.
  32. ferqus091
    ferqus091 17 January 2013 06: 06
    0
    BOEC007, something is floating in your bathroom, and your avatar is not far from your "SMART" thoughts
  33. demon ada
    demon ada 17 January 2013 07: 41
    0
    there was information on this site yesterday
    70 ships go 65 thousand marines (from the Russian Federation the official version of the teachings of Russia, Syria, China)
    I'm afraid, but it smells like "our Stalingrad"
    Syria has the largest Chechen diaspora outside the Russian Federation.
    I propose to use this fact and show the Turks "where Makar drove the calves"
    1. ATATA
      ATATA 17 January 2013 12: 31
      0
      demon ada,
      Quote: demon ada
      70 ships go 65 thousand marines (from the Russian Federation the official version of the teachings of Russia, Syria, China)

      Give a link.
  34. Rus2012
    Rus2012 17 January 2013 14: 37
    +1
    The real things ...

    17th of January 2013

    ITAR-TASS. The large landing ship / BDK / of the Russian Black Sea Fleet "Azov" is heading to the Syrian port of Tartus, where the point of material and technical support of the Russian Navy is located on an ongoing basis. This was announced today by ITAR-TASS military diplomatic source.

    "BDK" Azov "took on board several units of military equipment and marines in Novorossiysks. The day before, the ship successfully passed the Black Sea straits and today went out to the Aegean Sea to meet with the warships of the Navy grouping there, "said the agency's source.

    According to him, "Azov" will meet with escort ships on Friday, January 18, and next week he will go to Tartus to perform a special task. The interlocutor of the agency noted that this is not the first "shuttle" flight of "Azov" to the Syrian port. The landing ships of the Baltic and Black Sea fleets, the source said, will complete special tasks off the Syrian coast by the end of January.

    He recalled that the Nikolai Filchenkov large landing craft returned to Sevastopol on January 10, and Novocherkassk on January 15. The latter is preparing to be docked in order to take part in the spring activation of the Black Sea naval operational interaction group BLEXIFOR after repairs, which will take place in April in the Black Sea.

    At the same time, the BDK Saratov of the Black Sea Fleet is heading to Tartus for light repairs - restoration of the diesel generator. The large landing craft "Kaliningrad" and "Alexander Shabalin" of the Baltic Fleet have entered Novorossiysk today to load military equipment.

    A joint inter-naval grouping of the Navy is currently operating in the Mediterranean Sea, consisting of the Moskva missile cruiser, the Severomorsk large anti-submarine ship, the Smetlivy and Yaroslav Mudry patrol ships, the Ivan Bubnov, Dubna and Lena sea tankers, as well as the rescue and tugboat Altai.

    As previously reported in the Office of the Press Service and Information of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, at the end of January, the inter-naval group of the Russian Navy will hold large-scale exercises in the Mediterranean.
    http://www.itar-tass.com/
  35. VP123
    VP123 17 January 2013 19: 34
    0
    Pindyk Merikosam
  36. Akim
    Akim 18 January 2013 10: 19
    0
    46trehtyhqhjkjdgnsheqt