Did Stalin want to starve Ukraine to death?

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Did Stalin want to starve Ukraine to death?
Victims of famine on the streets of Kharkov, the capital of the Ukrainian SSR. 1933 Photographer A. Wienerberger


General situation


The peak of difficulties and disasters of the USSR (during the period of formation and development) occurred in a short period of time from the end of 1932 to the beginning of 1933. Industrial giants rose through hard work, the state rapidly transformed from agrarian to industrial, and was included in the group of world leaders.



However, funds and resources for industrialization had to be taken from agriculture. There were no other sources. Russia, after the Civil War and the Intervention, lost its gold reserves, the value and wealth accumulated over centuries. They were taken out and stolen. There was no more national capital. It was impossible to attract foreigners, a new dependence.

That's why they took it from the village. The hastily created collective farms were in poverty. There were few personnel. Inexperienced managers ruined what they had just created. Peasants moved to cities and became workers. The remaining collective farmers received meager wages, lived in poverty, worked without interest, and stole to survive.

There was nothing new in this. This practice developed back in the Russian Empire. Lean years occurred regularly, and famine engulfed individual provinces or districts. But Minister of Finance Vyshnegradsky, who was trying to replenish the gold reserves, stated:

“We don’t have enough to eat, but we’ll take it out.”

In England, the first industrial revolution was carried out at the expense of the peasants. The dense network of villages disappeared, but a “world workshop” was created. In Japan in the early 1930s, millions of Japanese peasants were malnourished, and widespread famine broke out in Hokkaido, Okinawa and northern Honshu. At the same time, the Empire of Japan continued industrialization, built railroads, rapidly armed itself, built a powerful and modern navy, and reconstructed old arsenals.

Moreover, mass famine was common on the planet during this period. Many countries in Europe, especially Eastern Europe, lived from hand to mouth at this time. In the Czech Republic, the poor were malnourished, although the country was considered the most prosperous of the states created after the First World War. In Poland and Romania, ordinary people (the majority) were openly starving. In Poland, the peasants of Galicia and the Hutsul region, Western Belarus and the Vilna region were dying of hunger.

In the USA, at the height of the Great Depression (The Great Depression) hundreds of thousands of people died. At the same time, the grain was immediately burned, and the milk was poured into ditches, since they could not sell it. There was no mention of distribution to the hungry and unemployed, as if the “market” would solve the problem.

Africa was starving, especially Ethiopia, where crop failures occurred regularly. This situation has continued to this day. No one counted the deaths of hungry Chinese and Koreans in the 1930s and during World War II.

The French caused a famine in Vietnam in the early 1930s: they forced the peasants of Indochina to switch from growing rice and sweet potatoes to the production of jute and cotton, which promised more income and were needed for the war economy. The existing food warehouses, created in case of famine due to crop failure, were liquidated. This led to famine, which continued under the Japanese occupation. The Vietnamese fed the Japanese troops. As a result, more than 3 million people died.

In the early 1940s, famine began in Bengal (now Bangladesh). It was also instigated by the British colonial administration, who ruled the local natives in this way. According to British data, 1,5 million people died from hunger and epidemics then, according to Indian data – 9 million people.

England had famined India and Bengal several times since the 1770s, when the British East India Company ruled there. Researchers count about 40 cases of famine. Considering that in Bengal it was possible to harvest three crops a year, there was plenty of fertile soil and water, and the local rivers abounded in fish and forests in game, these hunger strikes should be considered an instrument of British colonial policy.

In 1932, there was a crop failure in the USSR. This was a traditional situation both for the Russian Empire and for young Soviet Russia. Harvests were low and often at the mercy of nature.


Poster “Remember the Hungry.” 1921 Hood. I. V. Simakov

The fight against "counter-revolution"


Grain procurement plans failed, which threatened the country's industrialization plans. This was declared a deliberate “counter-revolution.” Repressions began. The Cossacks came under attack again. Again, as in the Civil War, a wave of terror swept through the villages. They were arrested and shot. Local communists were accused of “connivance” with the kulaks. In the North Caucasus region, 26 thousand people were expelled from the Communist Party. They were treated like kulaks: their property was confiscated and they were sent into exile. Areas that did not carry out the plan were accused of deliberate sabotage.

On December 14, 1932, a joint resolution was issued by the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks and the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR “On grain procurements in Ukraine, the North Caucasus and the Western Region,” which required the collection of all debts within a month.

“The Central Committee and the Council of People's Commissars indicate to the party and Soviet organizations of the Soviet Union that the worst enemies of the party, the working class and the collective farm peasantry are saboteurs of grain procurements with a party card in their pocket, organizing deception of the state, organizing double-dealing and failure of the tasks of the party and government to please the kulaks and other anti-Soviet elements. In relation to these degenerates and enemies of Soviet power and collective farms, who still have a party card in their pocket, the Central Committee and the Council of People's Commissars oblige to apply severe repressions, sentencing to 5-10 years of imprisonment in a concentration camp, and under certain conditions - execution.”

Wholesale searches were launched to take away grain supplies. Like the surplus appropriation system during the Civil War. They raked out not only the excess, but often everything was cleaned up. They took from the collective farmers what they earned. Food that was grown by the peasants themselves on their plots. They took away the food that people had prepared for themselves for the winter - berries, fruits, vegetables, mushrooms, fish. Money and valuables against “debt”. There were also excesses: people were extorted for valuables, beaten, locked in cold barns, and kept under arrest without water or food. In Kuban, several villages rebelled. This was immediately declared proof of “counter-revolution.” Troops were thrown at the rebels.

The Holodomor


Naturally, the areas that had already experienced crop failure and were now plundered began to die of hunger. In winter, there is nowhere to find food in our northern conditions (for large masses). The epicenters of the disaster were cordoned off by the Cheka and the army. No one was released. Markets closed. Supplies were only by ration cards and had deteriorated greatly. People ate cats and dogs, caught crows and rats, and ground fish bones for “bread.” On the Don, carrion was torn from cattle burial grounds. Children were looking for leftover vegetables in the snowy fields. In some places it even reached the point of cannibalism.

The Holodomor claimed, according to various sources, from 4 to 7 million lives. But he also threatened further consequences. Orders for plowing and sowing continued to be sent to the starving areas. The surviving collective farmers were weakened and could not fulfill the previous standards. They were punished, rations were reduced, and the peasants became even weaker. The sowing campaign was disrupted in the most productive regions of the country. There was a threat that in 1933 the entire country and cities would be left without bread. And this is a breakdown of industrialization, a new wave of war between city and countryside, unrest.

On the wave of chaos, Trotskyist internationalists and opposition to Stalin could break through to power. “Lenin's testament” was distributed among students. Trotskyist leaflets were found at the Higher Party School, which were very popular. Illegal circles were created in Komsomol organizations, where Bukharin’s ideas were popular. Rumors were spread that “Bukharin is for the people.”

Therefore, many facts indicate that the Holodomor was organized. He was prepared. Instead of helping the areas that suffered the disaster, it was deliberately made worse. Products in different cities and regions disappeared not gradually, but immediately. Yesterday they were, but today they are not. The same scheme was used to organize riots in Petrograd in February 1917, when Tsar Nicholas II was overthrown, or to organize shortages in Moscow when the USSR was overthrown.

Is Stalin to blame?


In modern Ukraine, Joseph Stalin and other leaders of the USSR were personally found guilty of the Holodomor in Ukraine in 1932-1933. In 2006, the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine declared the Holodomor an act of genocide of the Ukrainian people. Over time, the Holodomor was recognized as an act of genocide by a number of other states. Within the framework of the concept “Russian Muscovites are occupiers, and Ukrainians are innocent victims,” a myth was created that was actively promoted to the masses.

However, this is an obvious lie, another falsification, with the aim of denigrating Stalin personally and the USSR as a whole. It is characteristic that Stalin learned about the real state of affairs not through the official channels of the party or the OGPU.

The surviving correspondence shows that Stalin was first convinced of sabotage, of the need to take emergency measures, as had already happened in 1928. But in practice, these measures only worsened the situation and became the cause of the Holodomor. It is obvious that Stalin would not have undermined industrialization, collectivization, or put the Soviet state in danger of destruction. Your life's work.

The famine was not a deliberate genocide of specific peoples. Soon the country recovered from the famine, and the Ukrainian SSR soon turned into a prosperous granary of the entire Union. Although if the goal was to wipe out the Ukrainian peasants to the ground, it would have been enough not to give them seeds for sowing for a year or two.

The truth reached Stalin through Sholokhov and some other figures who had personal access to the General Secretary. The Soviet leader reacted immediately; emergency aid was sent to the starving people. Appropriate commissions were created and an investigation began.

As soon as these measures began to be taken, the Holodomor immediately stopped. Just as abruptly and suddenly as it began. Shops and markets opened, food appeared. That is, they were, it was a matter of management, distribution. There was bread that was sent to the affected areas on the instructions of the Kremlin. But locally, in warehouses, there was also food that “suddenly” became available to people. It lay there when people swallowed the bark and died.

The investigation did not produce any significant results. The small, administrative fry responded. Stalin wrote to Sholokhov about “the sore of our party-Soviet work":

“how sometimes our workers, wanting to curb the enemy, accidentally hit their friends and descend into sadism.”

The Holodomor was once again blamed on “excesses on the ground”, on the extreme zeal of fools. Obviously, there is some truth in this. The official reasons, announced directly during the mass famine (in the spring of 1933), were the deliberate incompetent actions of the leadership of the People's Commissariat of Agriculture of the USSR (the "sabotage group" of Wolf-Konrad-Kowarsky) and the leadership of a number of collective and state farms, in which "random and sabotage elements got through", and individual poorly verified communists on the ground.

“The saboteurs sought to direct the economy of the Soviet Union onto the path of creating imbalances, the path of famine and crisis...”,

— it was quite logically noted following the results of the 1st Five-Year Plan, 1934.

It is worth noting that already during the “Great Purge” many pests, enemies of the people (The riddle of the "great purge" of 1937 of the year; The secret of 1937. Why Stalin destroyed the revolutionary elite), answered for their atrocities, including organizing the famine. Thus, the Lower Volga region was led during this period by Vladimir Ptukha, the North Caucasus (including Kuban) by Boris Sheboldaev, Kazakhstan by Philip Goloshchekin, the Ukrainian SSR by Stanislav Kosior and Vlas Chubar. All of them were arrested and shot in the 1937-1940s.

Some errors


The terrible lesson of the Holodomor forced the Kremlin to pay closer attention to the situation in the countryside. We developed a new charter for the agricultural artel with an increase in personal plots and other concessions. Some of the dispossessed were returned home. The cases were reviewed, many of those who were convicted during collectivization were released and their convictions were expunged. A big purge took place in the party: up to 18% of communists were expelled for double-dealing, selfishness, careerism, abuse and moral decay.

As a result, the USSR solved the problem of food security. During the Great Patriotic War it was difficult, but the army and cities were supplied. Agriculture worked satisfactorily and developed at a good pace. Before Khrushchev’s “experiments”.

We worked on the “excesses” in the field of industrialization. The heroic, but hysterical and extremely painful assault on the first five-year plan was ended ahead of schedule. Plans have been adjusted. The second five-year plan was already more moderate and reasonable.

However, the USSR, through the heroic efforts of the people, made a colossal, qualitative breakthrough in creating its own industrial base. The economy could now develop on this basis. Russia after the Revolution and the Time of Troubles, the devastation, could produce its own equipment and arm the army. And in an environment of external threat, it was a question of the survival of civilization, power and people.


Poster by Yakov Guminer “Arithmetic of the counter industrial financial plan: 2 + 2 plus workers’ enthusiasm = 5” (1931)
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  1. +2
    29 November 2023 03: 36
    Death from hunger was not such a rare occurrence during crop failure among the population of the Russian Empire. No, of course, there was no deliberate famine among Ukrainian peasants.
    1. -3
      29 November 2023 04: 17
      Quote: 123_123
      No, of course, there was no deliberate famine among Ukrainian peasants.

      Moreover, there is a completely stable and logical version of mass mortality not due to the lack of bread among Ukrainian peasants, but due to poisoning by diseased grain, possibly diseased due to storage in grain storage. Because mass swelling from hunger is completely uncharacteristic of mass famine, but for some reason it happened specifically in Ukraine.
      https://newsland.com/post/3109032-chto-takoe-opukhanie-ot-goloda-i-ot-chego-umirali-krestiane-v-1933-godu?ysclid=lpj2mnrwn2730301192

      And Samsonov’s article is very weak.
      1. +3
        29 November 2023 05: 00
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        And Samsonov’s article is very weak.

        That's why the photo is strong... it looks more like a drunk man is lying around a fence with a green garden, everything is green, but they are "dying" from hunger...
      2. +9
        29 November 2023 06: 34
        And Samsonov’s article is very weak.
        At least he talks about the famine in other countries. Type in the search “famine in the USA” and you will be surprised. But during perestroika, in order to slander the Soviet government, they talked about the “Soviet” Holodomor, keeping silent about the rest.
        By the way, blaming Stalin for the Holodomor is the same as blaming Putin for deaths from Covid, while keeping silent about the fact that Covid was all over the world.
        1. +1
          29 November 2023 07: 23
          Quote: Gardamir
          Type in the search “famine in the USA” and you will be surprised.

          Thanks, but I wouldn't be particularly surprised.
          Quote: Gardamir
          By the way, blaming Stalin for the Holodomor is the same as blaming Putin for deaths from Covid, while keeping silent about the fact that Covid was all over the world.
          Interesting comparison. good
      3. 0
        8 December 2023 19: 16
        Samsonov's article is partly false, in terms of whitewashing Stalin. The famine was also caused by the consequences of forced collectivization in the countryside. The stupidity of the party leadership due to their lack of education also played a role. Nowadays this is called “effective managers”.
        1. +1
          8 December 2023 19: 23
          If there had been no collectivization in the countryside. So there was no hunger? Or would there be less of it somehow?
          1. +1
            8 December 2023 19: 30
            My now deceased mother-in-law’s parents were individual farmers and did not want to go to the collective farm. Activists came and took away all the food. As a result, the parents died of hunger, and the children ran away in all directions, but survived. And this was in the Kursk region in the winter of 1933.
    2. +4
      29 November 2023 07: 22
      It was the dependence on weather conditions and crop failures that led to the creation of Stalin’s Plan for Improving Environmental Management, which began to be implemented en masse even before the war.
      1. 0
        30 November 2023 11: 21
        And when Stalin died, Khrushchev nullified many of his projects that were necessary for the country. And this one too
        Quote from: dmi.pris1
        It was the dependence on weather conditions and crop failures that led to the creation of Stalin’s Plan for Improving Environmental Management.
  2. -9
    29 November 2023 04: 11
    No surprise! People who are incapable of planning and managing have seized power. All they could do was take away, terrorize, kill. Therefore, development proceeded through trial and difficult errors. Naturally, the Holodomor was not planned; it happened due to the lack of qualifications of local and government officials. Stalin himself actually had no education. Except for tales about prison universities.
    1. +10
      29 November 2023 04: 32
      Quote from Eugene Zaboy
      Stalin himself actually had no education. Except for tales about prison universities.

      Despite all the “brilliant” education, throughout the reign of Nika2 in Russia, hunger did not stop for a minute. The words “In Russia, famine occurs not when the bread fails, but when the quinoa fails” is far from being about satiety...
    2. +4
      29 November 2023 09: 29
      This is not a “Holodomor” (deliberate destruction on a national basis), this is a famine that happened regularly in the Republic of Ingushetia, and in the USSR there were only three of them - 1921, 33, 46.
      1. +1
        29 November 2023 11: 46
        Quote: IvanIvanov
        This is not a “Holodomor” (deliberate destruction on a national basis), this is a famine that happened regularly in the Republic of Ingushetia, and in the USSR there were only three of them - 1921, 33, 46.

        I’m from the 63rd, my parents had a hard time surviving, there were problems with food (precisely in the period 63-67) Ural, my grandparents helped from the village, they brought crackers from them (my grandfather worked as a fireman in a bakery), they cut and dried substandard food, my father was in the “structure” “I served (yes, like this one, (I didn’t take it, honest cop) and my mother worked as a seamstress in a factory. Of course, I don’t remember this, (until I was 4 years old and beyond) but the taste of breadcrumbs with onions is my memory, I still do it sometimes, with mayonnaise, really... and there was another dish, fried salted sprat (cost a penny) soaked and fried, then dipped in a piece - delicious! not for oligarchs.
        1. +2
          30 November 2023 11: 28
          My grandmother, 1928, sometimes made herself “soup” from crackers with onions. Or from toasted bread. With onion. She broke it, poured boiling water over it, added something else. (I forgot what) She called ---- "jail"
          1. +4
            30 November 2023 22: 01
            Hello, Dmitry. My father (1922) said that the prison was made from milk (if there was any) and pieces of bread. Nekrasov has the following lines: “Eat the prison, Yasha/ there’s no milk/ where is our cow?/ taken away, my light...” This is the XNUMXth century.
            1. +1
              1 December 2023 15: 06
              I also ate the prison with white bread (city roll).
            2. 0
              1 December 2023 21: 49
              Quote: Aviator_
              .... Nekrasov has the following lines - “Eat the prison, Yasha / there is no milk / where is our cow? / taken away, my light...” This is the XNUMXth century.

              Good evening, Sergey bully My grandmother has no milk...... but maybe kefir sometimes? May be something else? recourse Or pieces of boiled potatoes or sauerkraut? I do not remember. Grandmother has been gone for a long time, and they lived separately
    3. +4
      29 November 2023 13: 27
      “What, they buried a dashing cavalryman in papers???” @ "One among strangers, a stranger among one's own." The type is done accurately. But the problem was that there were no other shots. I had to learn on the go.
      You can also remember how under Khrushchev the Ryazan region doubled its meat production. Immediately, within a year.
  3. +7
    29 November 2023 04: 22
    Samsonov explained the entire article about the excesses and excessive zeal of the industrializers, persistently calling all this a famine. There was famine in different countries, but only Ukrainians were specifically “starved”?
  4. +5
    29 November 2023 05: 12
    Therefore, many facts indicate that the Holodomor was organized. He was prepared.


    Can you tell us more about the facts?
  5. +7
    29 November 2023 05: 28
    In short, the Tsar is good, the boyars are starving the people. Now they have declared their beloved leader a fool for not knowing the situation in the country.
    1. +5
      29 November 2023 09: 10
      Quote: Cartalon
      In short, the Tsar is good, the boyars are starving the people. Now they have declared their beloved leader a fool for not knowing the situation in the country.

      Yeah... The system (of fools and excesses, for the sake of bending before one’s superiors, and fear) was headed by Stalin, But he’s not to blame for this? However, when was it different in Russia? Now maybe? I mostly respect Stalin, but you can’t play around with mistakes and atrocities. Like blaming everything on him. Otherwise, we will never get out of this state. For now, either the tsar or the boyars will be to blame. Not ourselves. How many people were willing to “go overboard” out of servility, the desire to stand out, out of fear!?
      1. +4
        29 November 2023 21: 28
        Quote: victor50
        How many people were willing to “go overboard” out of servility, the desire to stand out, out of fear!?

        "Ryazan experiment" - when they slaughtered all the cattle in the region to zero - for the sake of a position...
  6. +5
    29 November 2023 05: 29
    The racers want to promote the theme of the Holodomor in the same way as the Jews once promoted the theme of the Holocaust. Only the Jews have been speculating on this and milking Germany for more than 70 years, and so far nothing has worked out for the Skaklov. And it won't work
    1. +6
      29 November 2023 05: 37
      Quote: Dutchman Michel
      Only the Jews have been speculating on this and milking Germany for more than 70 years, and so far nothing has worked out for the Skaklov. And it won't work

      It’s strange, because a person with such a face cannot lie about the Holodomor! laughing
      1. +9
        29 November 2023 07: 27
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        It’s strange, because a person with such a face cannot lie about the Holodomor!

        And with such a face? wink

        Rewarding a Holodomor victim wink
        1. 0
          29 November 2023 08: 00
          Quote: Dutchman Michel
          And with such a face?

          What?! I see two asses... Hairy and bald, but with a tail.
          1. 0
            30 November 2023 11: 36
            It's them am am They eat everything indiscriminately out of fear of terrible starvation. They wait, fear and eat
  7. +3
    29 November 2023 05: 51
    Hunger? There was famine. One of the reasons was a reduction in acreage. And what caused the reduction? Draft cattle were slaughtered en masse in Ukraine, the black earth regions of the RSFSR, and Kazakhstan. They also demanded from my great-grandfather that he cut me. The old man did not agree, they almost killed me, my grandfather arrived on time.
    1. -3
      29 November 2023 06: 08
      Quote: parusnik
      Draft cattle were slaughtered en masse in Ukraine, the black earth regions of the RSFSR, and Kazakhstan.

      And cut by whom? Are they not peasants, just so as not to hand them over to the collective farm? Well, draft cattle in nomadic Kazakhstan of those years is not true, although it was there that the cattle were slaughtered en masse and flew away with the grain.
      1. +2
        29 November 2023 06: 26
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        And cut by whom?

        I am sure that Trotskyist influence still existed in the party locally. Some instructions from local leaders may indicate explicit or implicit sabotage. It was impossible to say from the brain right away, but such figures were clearly approaching the year 37.
        1. +2
          29 November 2023 06: 52
          but here it is 37

          February 5 - Valentina Khetagurova publishes in the newspaper Komsomolskaya Pravda an appeal to Soviet girls to move to the Far East. The beginning of the Khetagurov movement.
          February 11 - the first Soviet caterpillar tractor STZ-NATI rolled off the assembly line of the Stalingrad Tractor Plant
          13 March:
          The North Caucasus region was transformed into the Ordzhonikidze region
          April 7 - for the first time in the history of aeronautics, a female crew manages the airship. The flight took place on the airship of the USSR V-1. Crew commander - V.F.Dyomin.
          21 APR:
          The premiere of Anna Karenina at the Moscow Art Theater is marked by a special TASS report as an event of national importance.
          May 21 - the first drifting expedition “North Pole” began its work.
          June 18 - June 20 - the first non-stop flight through the North Pole from Moscow to Vancouver (Washington, USA). Crew: Valery Chkalov, Georgy Baidukov, Alexander Belyakov.
          June 20 - Chelyabinsk Tractor Plant began mass production of the first Soviet diesel tractor S-65.
      2. +4
        29 November 2023 06: 44
        Are they not peasants, just so as not to hand them over to the collective farm?
        My great-grandfather didn’t cut it, you missed it. Wasn’t he a peasant? Workers from the Putilov plant? smile On the farm, several families, for some reason, did not join the mass, supposedly “spontaneous” protest, which took place in all black earth regions of the country. My grandmother said that in the sense that the cattle were slaughtered, there was nothing to plow with and I had to starve. The family survived on crackers. There was a large supply, according to her.
        1. -6
          29 November 2023 06: 56
          Quote: parusnik
          My great-grandfather didn’t cut it, you missed it.

          Honor and praise to him and people like him, without irony. But what about the rest, the “smartest”? And in terms of “intelligence”, the hikhly turned out to be even ahead of the entire RSFSR.
          Quote: parusnik
          The family survived on crackers. There was a large supply, according to her.
          Now, the collected grain was not left to rot in the huts, but was transferred to a more durable form, albeit after spending a lot of effort. The farmers, it seems, were stuck with grain, and then poisoned themselves with bread from it.
    2. 0
      30 November 2023 03: 44
      Quote: parusnik
      They also demanded from my great-grandfather that he cut

      Who demanded it?
  8. +8
    29 November 2023 07: 36
    The most curious thing from this article is that the author constantly harps on the word - Holodomor, and even capitalizes it, like some kind of Ukrobandera propagandist.
  9. 0
    29 November 2023 07: 59
    Ukraine in 1930--29.6 million. Ukraine in 1933-31.5 million.... Question: how many died of hunger?

    By the way: until the 50s there was no such word “Holodomor”. They said "hunger".
    The term was invented in the USA and here is the most interesting thing - why did Anglicisms and terminology in the university environment of the USA and Britain begin to spread intensively in the USSR at the end of the 50s? Is this in connection with the exposure of Stalin's personality cult? laughing Even if you watch Soviet films, you can see a sharp difference in the style of the late 59s and early 60s.....
    Was there any instruction from the CPSU?
    What happened?
  10. -1
    29 November 2023 08: 45
    The author has some kind of confidence that with the introduction of the NEP in Soviet Russia, the civil war stopped. Not at all. It took on a latent character and somewhere reached armed uprisings and this continued until the year 1936. As for the famine. What M. Sholokhov described in the novel Virgin Soil Upturned, this is reality, not cruel, but that’s exactly how it happened. And the same underground. And in the USA during the Great Depression, the capitalists decided to herd small farmers into collective farms, and they, as a sign of protest, flocked to the city? And there they began to organize hunger marches? Are you mad about fat? And what caused the famine, from the ruin of the small farmer, by banks and the concentration of land among larger owners, both large farms and in the hands of various corporations. The “Black Redistribution” that the Bolsheviks carried out in 1917 when they came to power, according to the Socialist Revolutionary scenario, had completely exhausted itself by 1929.
    1. -1
      29 November 2023 14: 42
      Quote: kor1vet1974
      The author has some kind of confidence that with the introduction of the NEP in Soviet Russia, the civil war stopped. Not at all. It took on a latent character..... That “Black Redistribution” that the Bolsheviks carried out in 1917 when they came to power, according to the Socialist Revolutionary scenario, to In 1929 it completely exhausted itself.

      It is better not to confuse war and peace. Because the presence of police, internal troops and courts in any state speaks of hostile contradictions that do not disappear anywhere and never. But this does not mean that humanity lives forever in conditions of civil war. You just need to understand that as long as the police can cope, there is no war, and when they cannot cope, there is war.

      As for the “Black Redistribution”, which.. “blah.....blah”.... also don’t! What the Bolshevik Party did is reflected in the legislation of the RSFSR and the USSR. The main function of any ruling party is not slogans, but the establishment of laws that distribute the state budget and property rights. Therefore, if you talk about the Bolsheviks without any “blah...blah..”, then you need to directly criticize Soviet laws, and not crimes against the laws and not the reaction to them of various social strata.

      PS Heh...heh.... if A. Dumas’s hero Count of Monte Cristo had been sitting not in the Chateau d’If, but in the Gulag, then of course, this would not have been a crime of specific officials against the law and the state, but on the contrary, a crime of the authorities against the people... All these twists have long been known...
  11. -1
    29 November 2023 08: 48
    I would like in the article to announce the names of those who made decisions - both locally and “at the top”
    Without making these “people” public, there will be no understanding of what happened
    and there are “surnames” under every decision, order, etc.
  12. 0
    29 November 2023 09: 06
    The country almost suffered famine upon Khrushchev’s return from America, when this “Ukrainian business executive” decided to introduce “corn” everywhere - from Kaliningrad to Vladivostok. And knowing that in the article the time described, Khrushchev was already rubbing shoulders with the highest echelons of power in Moscow and seeing how today the current government of Ukraine sold land to foreigners so that they could grow grain in Ukraine, because it turns out they don’t know how to do it themselves, and also destroyed the whole industry, two conclusions are drawn from all this.
    First . According to specially planned reports from Khrushchev and his Ukrainian clique to Stalin, Stalin made a mistake. Or he put not quite those against the wall and put few against the wall and put them in camps. From the activities of such pests who were not put in camps during the time and were not put against the wall, a real famine occurred in the Volga region, but since those whom Stalin, through an oversight, did not put in camps, they blamed and blame the Russians in all their own readings, they lied and lie that the Russians are forever “offend” the Ukrainians, and therefore they emphasized the famine in Ukraine as a result of their own sloppiness and sabotage as the famine in Ukraine due to the fault of Russia, in order to overshadow the real famine in the Volga region.
    Second . And where, by the way, have you not gone hungry in the last two centuries? . Famine happened everywhere, from America to Europe. In the Ukrainian SSR, the famine was accompanied not only by a natural disaster, but also by Ukrainians, pests in the highest structures of power from Moscow to Kiev, whom Stalin overlooked and did not put to the wall... But after Stalin’s death, they were on the Russians and on the Bolsheviks and on Stalin’s personality oh how we played out...
  13. +6
    29 November 2023 09: 35
    According to G. Tkachenko [45], “the invention of the term“ Holodomor ”(instead of“ hunger ”) was attributed to D. Mays, the author of the book“ Communism and the Dilemmas of National Liberation: National Communism in Soviet Ukraine in 1919-1933. ”However, According to historians, the real authors of this substitution of concepts were Ukrainian nationalists, emigrants of the second wave, who from 1945 to 1952 committed bloody actions on the territory of Western Ukraine, and during the Nazi occupation of Ukraine "became famous" in the field of collaborators, Nazi servants. "
  14. +1
    29 November 2023 10: 58
    As I understand it, the main statement of the author of the article is that Stalin is not to blame for the famine in the USSR in the period 1932-1933.

    The following arguments are given in support:
    1. Industrialization is carried out at the expense of the peasants and often leads to famine, i.e. hunger is an inevitable sacrifice for the development of a country (
    However, funds and resources for industrialization had to be taken from agriculture.
    )

    Proof of:
    In England, the first industrial revolution was carried out at the expense of the peasants. The dense network of villages disappeared, but a “world workshop” was created. In Japan in the early 1930s, millions of Japanese peasants were malnourished, and widespread famine broke out in Hokkaido, Okinawa and northern Honshu.


    Objections:
    There is no point in arguing with the fact that “Industrialization is being carried out at the expense of the peasants.” But there is evidence that in other cases everything ended in famine of comparable magnitude (
    from 4 to 7 million lives
    ) is not given.

    2. Mass famine was widespread during the economic crisis of the 20s and 30s of the 20th century (
    Moreover, mass famine was common on the planet during this period.
    )
    Proof of:
    Poor people in the Czech Republic were malnourished

    In Poland and Romania, ordinary people (the majority) were openly starving. In Poland, the peasants of Galicia and the Hutsul region, Western Belarus and the Vilna region were dying of hunger.

    In the United States, hundreds of thousands of people died during the height of the Great Depression (Great Depression).

    Africa was starving, especially Ethiopia, where crop failures occurred regularly. This situation has continued to this day.

    No one counted the deaths of hungry Chinese and Koreans in the 1930s and during World War II.

    The French caused a famine in Vietnam in the early 1930s

    In the early 1940s, famine began in Bengal (now Bangladesh).


    Objections:
    One can agree with the prevalence of hunger, but
    malnourished
    and lost
    from 4 to 7 million lives
    not comparable. The author does not provide absolute and relative (to the total population) values ​​for the number of famine victims, so it is impossible to understand how normal such a large-scale famine as in the USSR was.
    And the examples of France and Britain are not appropriate, it is obvious that Comrade. Stalin treated Soviet citizens differently than the Prime Minister of the World Bank treated the enslaved and exploited Bengalis, who in the metropolis were not even considered second-class citizens. These are examples of colonial policy, and not ordinary mass starvation.

    3. Famine is a common situation in Russia in the 19th and 20th centuries (
    Lean years occurred regularly, and famine engulfed individual provinces or districts.
    )

    Proof of:
    No specific cases are given.

    Objections:
    It's hard to argue against arguments that don't exist. But for example, the massive famine in Russia (1891-1892) claimed the lives of 10-15 times fewer people. At the same time, the population of the USSR during the famine of 1932-1933 was approximately 25% larger than in the Republic of Ingushetia during the period of this famine, i.e. In general, famine in the USSR claimed an order of magnitude more lives.

    4. The famine was a consequence of the actions of the conspirators and shortcomings on the ground (
    Therefore, many facts indicate that the Holodomor was organized. He was prepared.
    )

    Proof of:
    The Holodomor was once again blamed on “excesses on the ground”, on the extreme zeal of fools. Obviously, there is some truth in this. The official reasons, announced directly during the mass famine (in the spring of 1933), were the deliberate incompetent actions of the leadership of the People's Commissariat of Agriculture of the USSR (the "sabotage group" of Wolf-Conrad-Kovarsky) and the leadership of a number of collective and state farms

    The truth reached Stalin through Sholokhov and some other figures who had personal access to the General Secretary. The Soviet leader reacted immediately; emergency aid was sent to the starving people. Appropriate commissions were created and an investigation began.
    As soon as these measures began to be taken, the Holodomor immediately stopped. Just as abruptly and suddenly as it began.


    Objections:
    To dispute or agree with conspiracy claims, you need to familiarize yourself with a large amount of historical materials, so I will not argue.
    But the statement “As soon as these measures began to be taken, the Holodomor immediately stopped. Just as abruptly and suddenly as it began” contradicts all the author’s previous arguments. It turns out that there were no objective reasons for such a massive famine, and if Stalin had known about it earlier, there would have been much fewer victims.
    Also, the actions of the authorities, described in the section “Working on mistakes,” suggest that the central authorities saw the main reasons for the famine as the ineffective organization of agriculture, the concentration of local power in the hands of the most “ideological” rather than the most competent leaders, and destruction in the countryside layer of strong business executives.

    Conclusions:
    Overall, in my opinion, the author was unable to convincingly prove his main idea. The arguments are contradictory and often unsubstantiated. But the main problem is that the choice of the initial idea is questionable. The author emphasizes that “Stalin is not to blame,” although it would be more useful to prove that “There was famine throughout the entire territory of the USSR; there was no deliberate genocide in the Ukrainian SSR.”
    The constant use of the term “Holodomor” in the article is not at all clear. It’s like in an article about the Northern Military District using the terms that are invented about our actions in the West.
    Also very repulsive are judgments like “Famine, repression, defeat of the Red Army in 41 - these are all conspirators,” but “Victory in the war, successful industrialization, the atomic bomb - this is Stalin personally.” Stalin, like Peter I or Ivan the Terrible, must be accepted as is, with all its advantages and disadvantages. This is the history of our country, sometimes difficult and terrible, but great.
  15. +4
    29 November 2023 11: 33
    Moreover, mass famine was common on the planet during this period. Many countries in Europe, especially Eastern Europe, lived from hand to mouth at this time. In the Czech Republic, the poor were malnourished, although the country was considered the most prosperous of the states created after the First World War. In Poland and Romania, ordinary people (the majority) were openly starving.

    After the First World War a strange situation arose. Countries whose territory was affected by the war had serious food problems.
    At the end of the war, the Americans decided to help them.
    The American Relief Administration (ARA) ...was created by order of President Woodrow Wilson for the practical implementation of the tasks stipulated by the European Famine Relief bill adopted on January 13, 25 by the US House of Representatives and February 1919, 1 by the US Senate. [100], under which the United States allocated $1919 million to supply food and medicine to the affected countries of Europe (initially excluding Germany, Austria, Hungary, Bulgaria and Turkey, which were included by the end of XNUMX).
    President Wilson appointed Herbert Hoover as the head of this organization, who already had experience in supplying food to Belgium since 1914[2]. The director of the organization's representative office in Soviet Russia was Colonel William Nephew Haskell, who held this position throughout the entire period of ARA activity in the country (1921-1923)[3].

    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Американская_администрация_помощи
    But at that moment it was obvious help to those affected by the war that swept across Europe; the leadership of Soviet Russia had no reason to hide it, since the lack of food affected not only post-war Russia, as the author correctly writes (although Russia was affected much more than other countries) . The Americans provided significant assistance, in fact they saved about 10 million people from starvation in Russia, and this was not only the assistance itself in the form of food and goods (the assistance was financed from various sources, not only from the US government, there was also money from the Soviet government and philanthropists and international organizations), but last but not least, the correct and clear organization of distribution, which ensured the supply of this aid to those who needed it, and did not allow it to be stolen, which was far from an easy task at that time, read “The Twelve Chairs” “What did helping “orphans” look like in those days.
    On December 30, 1921, in London, People's Commissar of Foreign Trade L.B. Krasin, on behalf of the government of the RSFSR, signed an agreement with the ARA on feeding the adult starving population. At the same time, the RSFSR pledged to transfer $10 million to the ARA. With this money, Hoover's organization was supposed to purchase seeds and food supplies from American farmers and deliver them to points indicated by the Soviet side. Real assistance from the American Relief Administration began to arrive in December 1921 - January 1922.
    On January 20 and 24, 1922, the US Congress approved the medical assistance program and the procedure for its provision.
    As of February 9, 1922, the contribution of the ARA and American organizations and individuals under its control amounted to 42 million dollars, Soviet Russia - about 12 million 200 thousand dollars, F. Nansen's organization together with others who were under its "wing" - about 4 million. In just two years, the ARA spent about 78 million dollars, of which 28 million - money from the US government, 13 - from the Soviet government, the rest - charity, private donations, funds from other private organizations. The Congress decision to provide additional aid to Soviet Russia ($ 24 million for the purchase of grain and medicines) helped to expand the program of activities tenfold - to 10 million people, including adults.

    The States found themselves in a difficult situation at that moment. During the war, farmers increased food production as much as possible, and at the end of the war, the demand for it fell sharply, farmers began to go bankrupt en masse (which later became one of the causes of the Great Depression). A paradoxical situation has arisen - if surplus food is simply given away, this will lead to even greater ruin for the farmers themselves, since no one will buy what is being distributed for free.
    Thus, purchasing food cheaply and distributing it to the hungry in Europe also supported American farmers. Medicines were also often purchased from military surplus left over from many armies after the war.
  16. +9
    29 November 2023 11: 51
    In the United States, hundreds of thousands of people died during the height of the Great Depression (Great Depression).

    The author exaggerated, there were no hundreds of thousands of people who died from hunger (and some made up even more - supposedly millions died there, which is a completely outright fabrication)
    With all the problems of the Great Depression, such mass deaths from starvation were a long way off.
    The situation during depression is conveyed by a famous photo that has become its symbol - a photo by Florence Owens Thompson.

    But to understand the photo you need to know the situation more broadly. This is the mother of ten children, at the age of 17 she married a farmer, the family later earned money by doing agricultural work in different parts of the country, moving from place to place by car. The photo captures the moment when the car broke down, and her husband and her two sons went to repair the radiator. All ten of her children survived (in fact, she gave birth to another, her eleventh), and she herself died of cancer at the age of 78.
    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Томпсон,_Флоренс_Оуэнс
    Her situation clearly shows the difference between hunger in our country and depression in theirs:(((
    1. 0
      29 November 2023 18: 40
      So, what, there were no large families in the USSR? And all their children died, right?
      1. +1
        30 November 2023 00: 27
        Farm laborers (and she belonged to this category) with families of 10 people in a private car did not travel around the country in search of work in the USSR.
  17. +2
    29 November 2023 12: 38
    The situation with the famine that engulfed some areas of the USSR in the early 30s was very different from the situation with the famine in the early 20s, after the First World War.
    If the famine of the 20s was practically not hidden, since it was obviously a consequence of the war, then the famine of the early 30s could no longer be attributed to the war.
    The Holodomor was once again blamed on “excesses on the ground”, on the extreme zeal of fools. Obviously, there is some truth in this.

    Such a massive famine cannot be explained by any “local excesses”. Much of the severe consequences of the famine could have been avoided if problems with food distribution had been evenly distributed throughout the USSR. But in fact, famine occurred only in certain areas, primarily Ukraine, the North Caucasus and Kazakhstan. According to the decision made at the very top, the starving people were practically not allowed to leave the areas affected by the famine; there are a large number of documents about the seizure of food using the most severe methods, sent directly from the very top. The locals only added to the problems, but were in no way their root cause.
    One of the reasons for the mass famine was that information about the famine would have been widely disseminated and would have reached the West, to which at that moment the confiscated food was sent for next to nothing (there was a depression, let me remind you, and prices were low). The famine of the 30s could no longer be justified by war, that is, it openly discredited Soviet power in the West. But there was a more important reason. This could lead to mass protests in the West that we are taking food away from those dying of hunger, which could lead to a ban on the sale of food to the West. The obvious basis for these protests could be, for example, local agricultural producers who were not interested in importing food from outside during the depression.
    Therefore, it was decided to hide information about the famine, localizing the famine-stricken areas as much as possible, literally cordoning them off and prohibiting travel from them.
    CENTRAL COMMITTEE OF THE CPSU(B)
    Council of People's Commissars of the USSR

    DIRECTIVE
    dated January 22, 1933 No. 65/sh
    IN CONNECTION WITH THE MASS EXIT OF PEASANTS OUTSIDE OF UKRAINE
    ...
    The Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (b) and the Council of People's Commissars received information that in the Kuban and Ukraine a mass exodus of peasants began “to buy bread” to the Central Black Sea Region, to the Volga, Moscow region, Western region, Belarus...
    First. The Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party and the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR order the regional committee, the regional executive committee and the PP OGPU of the North Caucasus to prevent the mass departure of peasants from the North Caucasus to other regions and entry into the region from Ukraine.

    Second. The Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party and the Council of People's Commissars order the Central Committee of the Communist Party (b)U, Balitsky and Redens to prevent the mass emigration of peasants from Ukraine to other regions and the entry into Ukraine from the North Caucasus.

    Third. The Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party and the Council of People's Commissars order the PP OGPU of the Moscow region, the Central Black Sea region, the Western region, Belarus, the Lower Volga and the Middle Volga to arrest the “peasants” of Ukraine and the North Caucasus who made their way to the north...
    Fourth. The Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party and the Council of People's Commissars order the GPU TO Prokhorov to give the appropriate order regarding the GPU TO system.

    Predsovnarkom of the USSR
    V.M. Molotov
    Secretary of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks
    J. Stalin
    (RGASPI. F. 558. Op. 11. D. 45. L. 109-109 rev.)

    https://docs.historyrussia.org/ru/nodes/77571-direktiva-tsk-vkp-b-i-snk-sssr-o-predotvraschenii-massovogo-vyezda-golodayuschih-krestyan-22-yanvarya-1933-g
    1. +5
      29 November 2023 15: 53
      Quote from solar

      Predsovnarkom of the USSR
      V.M. Molotov
      Secretary of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks
      J. Stalin
      (RGASPI. F. 558. Op. 11. D. 45. L. 109-109 rev.)

      Stalin was the “Secretary of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks” from February 10, 1934. And on January 22, 1933, Stalin was the General Secretary of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks (Bolsheviks) By the way, why Molotov - "V.M." , and Stalin is just “I”?
      As the hero of the Soviet film said; “Your mustache has come unglued”......

      I advise you to use this “document” for its intended purpose when you go to the outhouse. Lo and behold, you’ll become a real “Bolshevik” laughing
      1. -1
        30 November 2023 01: 37
        Stalin very rarely signed himself as "General Secretary", although the position was formally introduced back in 1922, he was the first General Secretary.
        the position of General Secretary was established on April 3, 1922 by the Plenum of the Central Committee of the RCP(b), elected by the XI Congress of the RCP(b)...however, the corresponding amendment was not made to the party charter[2].

        Formally, Stalin was the first General Secretary, but in fact this title was rarely used and until Stalin’s death it remained non-statutory; Stalin did not like this title.
        ...Stalin usually did not sign the full name of his position in official documents[4]. He signed himself as “Secretary of the Central Committee”[12][13][14] and was addressed as Secretary of the Central Committee[15]. When the Encyclopedic Directory “Figures of the USSR and Revolutionary Movements of Russia” (prepared in 1925-1926) was published, there, in the article “Stalin”, Stalin was introduced as follows: “since 1922, Stalin has been one of the secretaries of the Central Committee of the Party, in which position he remains even now.”...

        There are a lot of documents from that period in which he signs as “secretary”, for example
        http://www.hrono.info/libris/stalin/7-32.php
        or telegrams to Ordzhonikidze
        TELEGRAM G. K. ORDZHONIKIDZE
        April 21 1922 years
        ... You have been instructed by the Central Committee to immediately leave Tashkent - within a week from the date of arrival, to examine the situation of the Turkfront from the point of view of the successful liquidation of the Basmach movement ... telegraph the day of departure to Tashkent. Secretary of the Central Committee of the RCP Stalin..RGASPI. F.558, Op.2, D.2294, L.1.

        Or here is the Resolution of the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR and the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks “On Meat Procurement”

        Or here is the decree of 1932

        And other documents signed by Stalin at that time
        "Cyphered telegram from I.V. Stalin and V.M. Molotov to the leadership of the West Siberian region about the delivery of grain by state farms of the region. December 1, 1932."
        https://istmat.org/node/27308
        "Directive letter from I.V. Stalin to local authorities on the sabotage of grain procurements in the Orekhovsky district of the Dnepropetrovsk region of the Ukrainian Ukrainian SSR. December 7, 1932."
        https://istmat.org/node/27610
        The position of the General Secretary was first enshrined in the Charter only in 1966, as the position of the General Secretary of the CPSU Central Committee.
  18. +2
    29 November 2023 13: 28
    Why does the author persistently call the famine of the early 30s a famine? Who starved whom? I also wonder how the Cheka and the army could “isolate” the territories without letting anyone out? Did you build fences? What for? Everyone knew about hunger and helping the hungry. It seems that the author’s goal is to get the term “Holodomor” into everyone’s heads. Let the article contain an “indulgence” for those who are trying to think well of Stalin and are generally inclined towards the socialist worldview, but the “Holodomor”, that is, murder by starvation and security detachments of security officers, should settle in people’s heads.
    1. 0
      29 November 2023 15: 01
      Quote: Yuras_Belarus
      Why does the author persistently call the famine of the early 30s a famine? .

      In 1983, Harvard University Press published the work of James Mace, “Communism and the Dilemmas of National Liberation: National Communism in Soviet Ukraine, 1919–1933,” where this term appears. . D. Mace is credited with its invention. But he probably also borrowed from “experts.”
      In the first row of such experts was Dmitro Solovey (1888-1966). In 1944, he and the Nazis fled from the territory of Soviet Ukraine, liberated from occupation. Later he moved to the USA. THERE IS ONE SCHOOL!
    2. +2
      30 November 2023 02: 26
      I also wonder how the Cheka and the army could “isolate” the territories without letting anyone out?

      Cordons on the roads, document checks in adjacent areas. Back then it was difficult to walk on the roads without a passport.
      What for? Everyone knew about hunger and helping the hungry.

      Yes, they knew about the famine of the 20s. About famine 30 - much less, and on an understated scale. At that time, the USSR was already a rather closed state and visiting prominent foreigners were required to be accompanied.
      The reports of those few who escaped from custody and were able to write about the real situation were drowned out by denials of others, for example, Walter Duranty, the Moscow bureau chief of The New York Times, who received a Pulitzer Prize for reporting from the USSR, who downplayed the scale of the famine at that time
      In the New York Times on March 31, 1933, Walter Duranty condemned reports of famine in the USSR: “The Russians are malnourished, but not starving,” “There is no real famine, and it is unlikely that one will happen.”
      In another New York Times article, Duranty wrote:
      "Any report of famine in Russia today is an exaggeration or malicious propaganda. However, food shortages in grain-producing areas - in Ukraine, the North Caucasus and the Volga region - did cause increased mortality."

      Other famous people in the West, such as Bernard Shaw, made similar statements. Against their background, isolated reports of large-scale famine were simply lost.
      Against the backdrop of depression in the West, these messages did not seem frightening.
      In fact, people in the West started talking about the famine in the USSR in the 30s after the war.
  19. 0
    29 November 2023 14: 35
    1. If someone went hungry, then the fault lies only with the enemies of the Soviet regime, with small private economies and the legacy of tsarism when hunger was a common occurrence. The Soviet government protected people from hunger and after collectivization, no one ever went hungry again in peacetime.
    2. Compare the population growth of the Ukrainian SSR during Stalin and the population of “Independence” after the Maidan and establish when the real famine struck.
  20. +1
    29 November 2023 17: 20
    The Bolsheviks believed in the power of the administrative-coercive mechanism, but underestimated the monetary mechanism. So in 1932 they jumped, where it’s thin, that’s where it breaks. But it could have been completely different if the NEP had not been curtailed. It had to be preserved in part. Agriculture and forestry, fishing, services and catering, tailoring, etc. - all this is subject to a 50% tax and forward. And industry, everything, energy, mining, all basic sectors are owned by the state. Then there would be money and economic growth. Of course, the Holodomor is not just Ukrainian history, they are part of this horror. Many people got it. It’s just that a nation that has no history, no respect for its ancestors, no honesty and conscience is left with the path of inventing its own exploits and imaginary greatness. The Black Sea was dug up, but we didn’t even know it.
  21. +2
    29 November 2023 17: 41
    Wholesale searches were launched to take away grain supplies. Like the surplus appropriation system during the Civil War. They raked out not only the excess, but often everything was cleaned up. They took from the collective farmers what they earned. Food that was grown by the peasants themselves on their plots. They took away the food that people had prepared for themselves for the winter - berries, fruits, vegetables, mushrooms, fish.
    This is exactly what survivors of the hunger strike told me many years later...
  22. -1
    29 November 2023 19: 01
    The author likes to leave things unsaid! The Bolsheviks spent a considerable part of the Republic of Ingushetia’s gold reserves on “revolution” throughout the world!
    Khrushchev was forced to start farming because the country was living from hand to mouth, and not because he wanted to experiment! Harvests have risen, but bread consumption has also increased.
    1. 0
      29 November 2023 19: 36
      They took it and just let it go..... There's nothing to do. All events in the History of mankind can be explained by the fact that “these hated these,” and “these did everything according to a book written in the 19th century.”... Yes... s... We have a lot of grown men with childish minds ...
  23. 0
    29 November 2023 22: 32
    Was there a Khokhlomor? Or maybe...
    Well, okay, “the bloody KGB covered up all traces,” and at that time in our country Khokhlomor was somehow not noticed. But for some reason it was not noticed in the west either. Yes, they waited for him, not allowing the commies to buy grain (they could only buy it in Persia, that’s what Iran was called then), they waited, waited and...
    White emigrant newspapers described in some detail all the failures of Soviet power. Everything: accidents at construction sites, and hunger (and it was severe), and discord at the top, and all sorts of fables... But they overlooked Khokhlomor, how is that? But 8 million, that’s more than a quarter of the population of the Ukrainian SSR. Ten "Siege Leningrads"!!! And in percentage terms in Leningrad and Ukraine (number of deaths per number of people living before the blockade/Khokhlomora) the figures are almost equal, but no one noticed this before the occupation of the Ukrainian SSR by the Germans. Maybe that’s why they didn’t notice that the Bolsheviks did everything (and even more) to prevent the Holodomor from happening. Unlike the then Polish Western Ukraine, where there was also severe famine, accompanied by high mortality, but there were no “damned commies” there... although they noticed it, no one was interested, well, the farm laborers were dying of hunger, and let be.
    And one more thing... In Kharkov (then the capital of the Ukrainian SSR), Kyiv, Donetsk, Odessa... and in all major cities, there was no Khokhlomora... Why? And there... back then there were still a bunch of foreign concessionaires, and when they returned to the West, they would not remain silent. And they were silent. Therefore, HE (Khokhlomor) “was” for some reason (???) in villages and farmsteads. But the winter of 31-32 saw the almost complete withdrawal of peasants from the “collective farms forcibly created by Stalin’s executioners.” So it raises great doubts that the individual peasant would die out in the villages (farms) from hunger... when not only the city dwellers, but also those few who remained on the collective farms, if they did not fatten themselves, then survived two hungry winters quite calmly.
    And more, more... We must stop “repeating like a mantra”: “It’s all the communics’ fault!”
    Blame “collectivization-industrialization” for everything (collective farms created during “total collectivization” in 30 were almost “dissolved” by 32... they “reassembled” again after the hungry winters. But if there had been industrialization, there would not have been ... The grain would still have been sold. Another thing is that industrialization pulled a lot of young people out of the villages. But in 32 and 33 this was not so noticeable. Maybe the reasons for this particular famine lie in a completely different plane. Incorrect data ( deliberately incorrect!) submitted by the “Kharkov Regional Committee” to the Central Committee, “The Third Mass Slaughter of Cattle” (there was such a page in our history)...
  24. 0
    29 November 2023 23: 49
    Quote from Eugene Zaboy
    Naturally, the Holodomor was not planned; it happened due to the lack of qualifications of local and government officials.

    There were no managers with the appropriate qualifications not only among the Bolsheviks, but they were nowhere to be found. No one had ever tried to convert a huge country from capitalism to communism. And a difficult transition period was superimposed on a natural disaster.
    The 1931 crop failure in one part of the country led to a tightening of policies against passive and active saboteurs of grain procurements among more prosperous regions and the seizure of a larger share of grain there. And the next year, the crop failure spread to these regions, and no one had any reserves.
  25. -1
    30 November 2023 03: 43
    “When the organization of collective farms began, the kulaks exterminated all living creatures. They killed even those unsuitable for food: they drove the horses until they sweated and foamed, and then led them into icy water. The middle peasants and the poor did not lag behind the kulaks...
    Kulaks also joined the collective farm; moreover, it was they who became the leaders...
    The land was plowed somehow, and the fields were sown only at the edges. The cattle received from the state were poisoned; in the first half of 1930 there were more fires in Russia than in the previous five years, the struggle flared up in earnest...
    Wealthy peasants did not sow the plots left to them; they incited the poor to sabotage, sometimes quite successfully. Famine has broken out in many areas...

    — What do you know about the famine in Ukraine? - I ask him. He stares at me in surprise." (D. Iyesh)

    “He” is an engineer at a tractor plant in Kharkov. (CM.)
  26. 0
    30 November 2023 09: 21
    Mostly Russian settlers from poorer villages died from hunger in Ukraine. I speak as a person whose ancestors are buried in a common grave in the Kharkov region. And to prove this, it is enough to conduct a genetic analysis of the relatives of the victims. If haplogroup R1a is from Russian villages, if N is Ugrofin, if E is Serbian, Slavic, if I1 and I2 are sharp and Visigoths, then we think they are Ukrainians. They look like fat, blond, lard lovers.
  27. +2
    30 November 2023 16: 08
    Weak article and a lot of things mixed up. It’s especially funny that Sholokhov saved everyone from hunger, but the tsar didn’t know anything
  28. AB
    +4
    30 November 2023 17: 02
    Stalin was a thorough guy. If I wanted to kill him, I would kill him. But somehow I didn’t kill him. So I didn’t want to! Personally, I don’t need more proof)

    In general, the article is about everything and nothing. Only more of the known substance per fan. Especially in places where the peasants were robbed completely. Such points should be addressed in separate articles, and not mentioned in passing in a context that is negative for one of the parties.
  29. +1
    1 December 2023 14: 56
    Somehow, the author en masse placed all the leaders repressed in 1937-1940 on the list of those who suffered during the “correct”, in his opinion. repressions of 1937. But Kosior, Chubar, Postyshev and a number of other figures in 1937, and some in 1938, themselves took an active part in these repressions and they were supporters of their implementation. It’s just that when they went too far with the scale of repression, it was necessary to appoint someone guilty for excesses. Yezhov, Kosior, Postyshev, Eikhe, Chubar and a number of other figures were essentially punished for these excesses, although formally they were tried for espionage, Trotskyism, organizing sabotage, etc. And those who bore no less responsibility for these excesses, Kaganovich, Molotov, Andreev, Mikoyan, Shkiryatov, Khrushchev, Malenkov, Zemlyachka and others, continued to occupy high positions.
  30. 0
    22 December 2023 09: 23
    Photo from 1942. And not from Kharkov at all, but from western Ukraine.
  31. 0
    21 March 2024 23: 17
    My great-grandfather, a peasant from the Vyatka province, had his own forest before the revolution. The Bolsheviks came, the forest was taken away, my great-grandfather died. I didn’t survive this(... My grandfather told my father that my great-grandfather literally “breathed” this forest, it was his meaning of life. My grandfather, an incomplete Knight of St. George (three Crosses of St. George of the 1st World War), fought for the Reds during the civil war. Civil War passed through the family, like many did then. In the late 20s - early 30s, I don’t remember exactly when, my father said that at night, in the barn, my grandfather dug a hole in which he hid and buried potatoes. Otherwise, he said , they would have taken everything! (((The sister of my grandmother, my father’s mother, worked in an orphanage, to which the linen came from the orphanage. That is, everything was too small and too small. And they corrected someone’s mistake and changed linen, without informing anyone. For this “unauthorized” action, she was punished with correctional labor, for a period, in my opinion, for six months or a year, and took part in the construction of the White Sea Canal. My father said that their team constantly exceeded the plan , since the brigade was “corrected” by qualified engineers who approached digging a canal using the scientific method)... As a child, when I came “to the Motherland” with my father, I remember her as a woman of respectable age, a believer in God, but very optimistic and with a real lively mind). After the Great Patriotic War, my grandfather, in 1947, from the Baltic states, where he served, came to the Kirov region and took the whole family to Estonia. My father said that there was a severe famine then and they would have died if he had not taken them away. After everything that happened to our family, he couldn’t stand the “nomenklatura” for its arrogance, narrow-mindedness and stupid cruelty. I pitied ordinary communists, as a human being, and called them naive fools... My opinion: “For everything they did, especially in the late 80s and 90s, the “Russian” Nuremberg has been crying for them for a long time.

    PS Crimes against one’s own population are crimes without a “statute of limitations”.
  32. 0
    28 March 2024 10: 49
    Everything is simpler....the villagers of Ukraine, not wanting to give draft power to the created collective farms, the very bulls on which they plowed the land, stupidly slaughtered them, using them for meat...and hiding the meat from the food detachments.
    In the spring there was nothing to plow with.... accordingly, a man-made crop failure. The same villagers eat up the seed due to hunger. And this is where the famine begins, there is nothing to plow, nothing to sow.
    Then the reasons described by the author are included.
    By the way, cannibalism begins right there.
    My grandfather's horse was taken to a collective farm... And then he was starved to death.
    So there is such a reason. For collective farms were headed by city dwellers, often of a completely different nationality than the villagers themselves. And there it’s either because of the city dweller’s incompetence in rural life or in conscious actions... Like we need to show Kuzka’s mother... And please shave
  33. 0
    April 9 2024 16: 05
    The article is exactly the case when “excuses are worse than accusations.” Either the author sincerely wanted to make the post objective but couldn’t, or to give credibility to the lie, he played at objectivity