The US has fallen into an Israeli trap

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The US has fallen into an Israeli trap

On the evening of November 2, the IDF announced that it had completed the encirclement of Gaza City (not to be confused with the Gaza Strip). It should be noted right away that we do not know what is actually happening “on the ground”. The main information received is statements of the parties, photos and video materials - a minimum. However, if we assume that the IDF’s statements are true, this means that Tel Aviv has completed the last stage of preparations for urban battles.

The IDF's advance in the Gaza Strip over the past days has been carried out exclusively in rural and desert areas, where the Israelis encountered virtually no resistance from Hamas. The actions of Palestinian forces are so far limited to guerrilla attacks. From the Arab side, a number of videos appeared of the successful destruction of military equipment (including tanks) and enemy manpower. The network of underground tunnels that Hamas has been digging over the past fifteen years is actively used to conduct military operations.



As a matter of fact, it is the factor of tunnels located throughout the sector that significantly reduces the effectiveness of the Gaza encirclement. The supply of fighters may well be carried out underground. Perhaps this is why Hamas looked relatively calmly at the IDF's advance through the countryside, launching only targeted strikes on concentrations of enemy troops.

Indeed, getting involved in bloody battles outside urban areas, where the IDF has a military-technical and, possibly, numerical advantage, would be suicide. Therefore, the Israeli army is lured specifically to the city, where the above factor, if not completely neutralized, then significantly reduces the overall level of effectiveness.

In theory, Hamas could even gain an advantage in urban areas.

Equipment on the streets of Gaza will be vulnerable, as will the movement of IDF soldiers. At the same time, the Palestinians are well versed in the terrain, they know convenient firing points and escape routes. However, the IDF, of course, is aware of such a danger. Therefore, what will happen in reality can only be understood after the Israelis enter the residential area.

How painful are Palestinian guerrilla attacks on the IDF?


If we take even Hamas’s data as truth, then the IDF’s losses in manpower do not seem serious. So, on November 1, 20 people were declared killed.

But technically everything looks more intense. Thus, on November 2, Hamas reported the destruction of 6 enemy tanks and 2 armored personnel carriers over the past 48 hours. Six tanks outside the city limits in a couple of days is not so little. Considering the fact that even Tel Aviv allocates at least 3-4 months for an operation against the Gaza Strip.

It should be noted here that, judging by the footage, the IDF is moving forward precisely with equipment without “soldier” cover. This can be explained by the high sensitivity of Jewish society to losses in manpower. And Israel, naturally, does not want to suffer serious human losses from the very beginning.

As for Hamas losses, the IDF already claims hundreds of people. Thus, yesterday it was announced that 130 Palestinian fighters had been killed in just a few hours. I will not say that this is not true, but this looks at least strange. For its part, Tel Aviv recognizes 335 military personnel killed, most of whom died on October 7.

Step by step


However, Israel's main problems lie ahead. They are connected not only with the prospects of bloody battles in the residential areas of the Gaza Strip, but also with the outbreak of active hostilities on the part of Iranian proxies.

Thus, the Yemeni Houthis have already declared war on Israel. I agree that it sounds loud, but the fact remains a fact. Many hastened to declare that, they say, from Yemen to Israel in a straight line there are at least 1 kilometers, ahead are Saudi Arabia and Jordan. And missile strikes, given the distance and the work of not only Israeli, but also Saudi and Egyptian air defenses, are unlikely to be too effective. This is certainly true.

However, the Yemen factor must be viewed from a completely different point of view. The current war in the Middle East is of a phase nature. The entry of the Houthis is another step by Iran, which shows that it has decided to be an active participant in the conflict. Now - the Houthis, then - Hezbollah, etc.

By the way, on Friday, November 3, Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah will speak. Earlier, the Shiite group issued an ultimatum to Israel to leave the Gaza Strip by 15:XNUMX on Friday. Of course, Tel Aviv successfully ignored the ultimatum.

Will Hezbollah open a second front? Such a development is more than likely. At some stage this will happen. The only question is whether this will happen after the ultimatum ends, or whether the Shiites will wait until the IDF is drawn into urban fighting in the Gaza Strip. In any case, the decision will most likely be Tehran's.

Hezbollah is currently engaged in low-intensity fighting on Israel's northern border. Strikes are carried out against armored vehicles and concentrations of IDF personnel. Hezbollah pays special attention to disabling Israeli surveillance equipment. This will increase the Shiites' chances of surprise in the event of an attack.

In total, from October 8 to October 30, the pro-Iranian group claims 120 killed IDF soldiers, and its own losses - 55 people.


Washington understands everything


On the evening of November 2, the US Senate approved the allocation of aid to Israel in the amount of $14,3 billion. I would especially like to note that Ukraine was not mentioned in the relevant document. However, the document must still be approved by Joe Biden. And there are doubts about this.

Earlier, US State Department head Antony Blinken said that Washington was offering Israel a “humanitarian pause” in order to evacuate the population from Gaza. Tel Aviv rejected such proposals. But there is no reason to believe that the United States is suddenly concerned about the fate of the Palestinians.

Washington is well aware that there is no alternative to supporting Israel under any circumstances. Tel Aviv's only chance for a landslide victory is a quick capture of the Gaza Strip, which seems unlikely. Now everything is heading towards a long and protracted war, including with Iranian proxies, to which the Jewish state will be forced to direct a huge amount of resources.

Despite its declared power, Israel is a rather small state that is not capable of waging a long confrontation. Even if we are talking purely about Iran, the Persian state, unlike the Jewish one, is not yet participating in the conflict in full force. Tehran has a lot of resources.

Plus there are other players like Turkey, who, if Israel's plan to establish control over the Gaza Strip fails, will also see an opportunity to take part in the redistribution of influence in the Middle East.

The unequal situation is obvious to the United States, because Israel can only survive with appropriate support from the Americans. However, Washington is afraid of being drawn into a long-term and costly conflict, which will divert forces from solving priority tasks. Hence the constant attempts to find a non-military solution to the conflict.

The ruling American elite does not need any Gaza Strip. And in general, the sudden conflict seriously undermines US influence in the Middle East, because no matter what Israel does, the Arab world will hold the hegemon responsible.

But it's' too late. The flywheel is spun. There is a long and difficult war ahead for Israel and the United States. Unless, of course, Tel Aviv manages to quickly take the Gaza Strip. However, there are no prerequisites for this option.
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  1. +11
    4 November 2023 04: 41
    The defeat of Israel in any form (military, economic, even a Pyrrhic victory) is equivalent to the defeat of the United States in the entire Middle East.
  2. +9
    4 November 2023 05: 18
    It is beneficial for us to involve the United States in various military conflicts... like any aggressive empire, it will inevitably tear its navel... and the sooner this happens, the better.
    1. +1
      4 November 2023 18: 45
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      It is beneficial for us to involve the United States in various military conflicts.

      In order for them to practically (i.e. physically) get involved, the countries of the Arab world must enter into the conflict. And now it looks like this coalition is being formed. They were simply left with no other choice. But they need some time to organize such a coalition. And in fact, Hamas itself is not very respected among them.
      But Palestine is the Flag of Islamic Resistance.
      In addition, Hamas has not yet used maritime anti-ship drones... b\Ukraine is a generous soul.
      1. -3
        6 November 2023 13: 55
        I remind you that Israel supplied shells and other weapons and instructors to the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Israel's involvement in the war will not allow it to support the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

        And following the Torah, which says “An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth,” you can supply Hamas with weapons, in Israel they will understand because they respect the Torah.
      2. 0
        6 November 2023 15: 33
        Arabs are good businessmen. Talking about a coalition of merchants is simply ridiculous. Yes, after Gaza is razed to the ground and the Palestinians are extradited to Egypt, they may begin to think about an oil and gas embargo, but here they cannot do without Russia. The question is whether Russia will fit in.
        PS
        The Persians are true wars at the moment. But what are they ready for?
    2. -1
      5 November 2023 11: 20
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      It is beneficial for us to involve the United States in various military conflicts... like any aggressive empire, it will inevitably tear its navel... and the sooner this happens, the better.

      It won't hurt her butt.
      Its basis and margin of safety for a certain period is the last 40 years of the strongest globalization of the economy, where the United States has always been the ultimate beneficiaries.
      They will simply restart the “new world”.
      The one for the golden billion.
      6 technological structure.
      When “those who are not with America” will be excluded from all the most important areas of engineering, science, and technology.

      And the best restart is not evolution, but revolution. With a change in images and ways of life.
      And several global conflicts are just a method of revolutionary change.
  3. +5
    4 November 2023 05: 31
    For all countries where there are many faiths, this conflict is a threat. Many visible and invisible forces are involved in this conflict. And even the most loyal ally of the United States can play in favor of Turkey. Such cooperation, although invisible, exists. There are no political contradictions. There are only religious and national contradictions. And this is the worst thing.
  4. +19
    4 November 2023 06: 22
    Unless, of course, Tel Aviv manages to quickly take the Gaza Strip. However, there are no prerequisites for this option.

    Do you see any prerequisites for Hamas to win?
    In 3...4 months, Israel will clear Gaza of militants, destroying house after house. Gaza is the size of Grozny, only with more inhabitants. It’s true that they will also “cleanse” it of civilians. But by and large, what difference does it make to us? Hamas militants are precisely those who sat in Idlib, slaughtered Syrian civilians, and brutally tortured soldiers of the Syrian army.
    The residents of Gaza themselves chose Hamas, just like Zelensky’s Ukrainians.
    1. +10
      4 November 2023 06: 44
      Who cares who wins? Let both sides inflict the greatest damage on each other, let the United States spend large resources in the form of dollars and ammunition there, this will be a good course of the conflict.
      1. +9
        4 November 2023 07: 03
        Quote: Pessimist22
        this will be a good flow of conflict.

        Yeah, for global capital, just like the Ukrainian conflict. Billionaires will become trillionaires, and nations will suffer/perish. Well, who cares about the fate of those who “did not fit into the market”...
      2. +8
        4 November 2023 12: 05
        So you started talking like in the USA since the beginning of the Second World War)) You see, it’s so easy to start repeating what we have angrily branded the pernicious West for for years am
        1. -1
          4 November 2023 18: 07
          Quote: Knell Wardenheart
          So you started talking like in the USA since the beginning of the Second World War)) You see, it’s so easy to start repeating what we have angrily branded the pernicious West for for years am

          What can you do? The logic of war... Previously, with all its shortcomings, the USSR had the most just socio-political system, where man is friend, comrade and brother to man. And we could freely condemn, from a position of justice, any abomination of imperialism.
          Now our Constitution prohibits a single state ideology, but in fact we have capitalism, where man is a wolf, but the Constitution’s ban allows us to pretend that this is not so and deceive ourselves, but we are allowed a variety of ideologies, with the exception of those prohibited.
          And one could agree with this if one part of our population did not do “good deeds” at the expense of others - at the expense of another (larger) part of the population.
          But if you don’t notice this, then it’s as if you don’t care. Although for me personally, the pragmatism of the Pessimist22 is closer - “push the falling one” - help the inevitable happen, because it is not our personal fault. I agree that this is disgusting to our mentality, but we are far from the Soviet Union in terms of our capabilities. And, if the cross has already been removed, then you don’t have to wear panties.
        2. -1
          5 November 2023 22: 22
          You see, it’s so easy to start repeating what we have angrily condemned the pernicious West for for years
          This is what any ordinary capitalist thinks. Our country is capitalist, and the reasoning is the same. Why are you surprised?! It’s the remnants of the propaganda of the “bloody USSR” speaking in you. So he had every right to reason like that, because there was solidarity of the working class. At least, it was declared by the USSR. And now "Homo homini lupus est."
      3. Aag
        0
        4 November 2023 16: 19
        Quote: Pessimist22
        Who cares who wins? Let both sides inflict the greatest damage on each other, let the United States spend large resources in the form of dollars and ammunition there, this will be a good course of the conflict.

        ((((how we have gone wild, become like... Children are dying... On both sides. Like US - on the territory of the former USSR. Of course, - your shirt is closer to your body! I won’t argue...
        1. +1
          4 November 2023 17: 41
          You really feel sorry for the children of future Hamas volunteers... that houses in Moscow were blown up a long time ago or Nord-Ost has already been forgotten... but the same ones were noted there (but already grown up and having shed ''first blood'' they are also children)... maybe that's enough already step on the same rake... this is not the West, but the East (yeah, it’s a delicate matter) and maybe it’s not just that the leader of the Jews made a reservation (HE is aware of everything that grows there) that THESE are not people... but in your opinion they are capable people people rip open the belly of a pregnant Jewish woman (haha homo???) or are you confident that in their midst these children will grow up to be teachers, doctors and artists... or maybe suicide bombers, snipers and grenade launchers???
          1. Aag
            0
            4 November 2023 19: 21
            Quote: WapentakeLokki
            You really feel sorry for the children of future Hamas volunteers... that houses in Moscow were blown up a long time ago or Nord-Ost has already been forgotten... but the same ones were noted there (but already grown up and having shed ''first blood'' they are also children)... maybe that's enough already step on the same rake... this is not the West, but the East (yeah, it’s a delicate matter) and maybe it’s not just that the leader of the Jews made a reservation (HE is aware of everything that grows there) that THESE are not people... but in your opinion they are capable people people rip open the belly of a pregnant Jewish woman (haha homo???) or are you confident that in their midst these children will grow up to be teachers, doctors and artists... or maybe suicide bombers, snipers and grenade launchers???

            "Plus" for your answer....
            By the way, do notifications work for you? ("bell")?! I'm talking about a prompt response...
            ... Dear opponent! IMHO: I sincerely try not to divide People on any grounds! (by nationality, religion...
            But, no, - there is a reservation (!): if you want to live better than others (peoples, religions...), I use any slogan! - so I am against it!!! It doesn’t matter: you are Arab, Jewish, Russian, Chechen, Ukrainian, or Baltic! AND!! It seems that the majority of educated peoples who are not intoxicated by the media (of as yet unknown origin) should think the same!...
            I understand - the picture is idealistic...
            But I really want to believe it! drinks
            Otherwise, nothing good awaits us (Humanity) in principle!
            I don’t know where you are coming from, from what country, how old are you, but try to remember (find) information about how, even during the Cold War, Humanity TOGETHER tried to solve (at least hypothetically) the “problems” of the Earth existence... Yes. For the most part, it's fantasy. And the arms race, the struggle for World leadership - has not been canceled! Nevertheless...

            . Sorry... I am deliberately avoiding an assessment of the Arab-Israeli conflict. (Yes, I grew up watching it! I remember TV for as long as I can remember! I spent a lot of political information on the internal radio network at the school...).
            Therefore, please, do not “pressure” me with the last lines of your comment!
            (under certain conditions, what you listed can be turned into a completely normal child, from a completely “average” family.)
            Don't speculate on this, please! hi
          2. -3
            4 November 2023 21: 06
            SORRY FOR ANY CHILDREN! AND THE FACT THAT THIS MESS STARTED THERE IS NOT WE STARTED IT, BUT IT IS IN OUR HANDS, HEZBOLA NEEDS TO ARM WITH UKRAINIAN WEAPONS AND GIVE THEIR OWN MORE SERIOUSLY IN THE IDEAL IF SYRIA GIVES THEM ITS ANTI-SHIP MISSILES IF SOMETHING SUCCEEDS SIR IT'S GOOD TO DROWN AND IT'S GOOD FOR THEM AND IT'S FUNNY FOR US, HERE IT'S EVERYONE FOR HIMSELF, IF THIS WAR IS BENEFITABLE FOR US, THEN IT SHOULD GO FOR A VERY LONG TIME T C RUIN OUR OPPONENTS, POLITICS IS A VALUABLE BUSINESS
  5. +18
    4 November 2023 06: 29
    How painful are Palestinian guerrilla attacks on the IDF?

    If we take even Hamas’s data as truth, then the IDF’s losses in manpower do not seem serious. So, on November 1, 20 people were declared killed.

    But technically everything looks more intense. Thus, on November 2, Hamas reported the destruction of 6 enemy tanks and 2 armored personnel carriers over the past 48 hours. Six tanks outside the city limits in a couple of days is not so little. Considering the fact that even Tel Aviv allocates at least 3-4 months for an operation against the Gaza Strip.


    IMHO, judging by what the Israelis write:
    Hamas can claim anything, even the downing of the Death Star/US special forces/all armies of the world at once.
    The story with Hamas in Gaza will end one way or another (an interesting question is whether they will continue in Qatar...).
    The Gaza Strip has already been “cut in two”, it will be “cleared” of Hamas, the duration of the operation is estimated as months, the IDF losses will be estimated as “hundreds”. After 07.10.2023/XNUMX/XNUMX (and for now) such losses are classified as “expected and inevitable”.

    They take it more seriously that the further from 07.10.2023/XNUMX/XNUMX, the more Israel will be urged to stop from the “disproportionate use of force” by peace activists like Greta Thunberg, Antonio Guterres and Angelina Jolie.
    What will come of this is unclear.

    Hezbollah is assessed as a more serious enemy. Even its missile potential, without a “northern front” in the form of a ground operation, is assessed as capable of overloading Israel’s air defense and the number of casualties will be in the hundreds.
    Yemen, Algeria and who else is going to fight there is unimportant.

    The main question to which no one has an answer is what will happen in Gaza after the Iron Swords.
    For obvious reasons - “there is little sense, there are many losses” - Israel refrains from occupying Gaza after it left “after Oslo.”
    According to rumors and “controlled leaks,” Egypt does not want to deal with Gaza; the military there only recently dealt with its Hamas.
    Jordan doesn’t want to, because “last time we barely fought them off with tanks.”
    Nobody even wants to let Palestinians in “for a while.”
    The option of “UN peacekeepers” is being discussed, but this is a so-so story, everyone understands that they will have to serve as peacekeepers for decades.

    In general, there is a land on the Mediterranean coast (a great place for anything, from beaches to a port) that is 60 km long and about 10 km wide. Now her neighbors are looking for justice and sane authority for her.
    Nobody wants to run the People's Republic on minimal wages, with regular donations from Qatar, the EU, the UN and other rich Pinocchios? Plus gratitude from Egypt, Israel, Jordan and Lebanon? All that is required is to “guarantee order” - but no one has succeeded with this since 1947.
    1. -8
      4 November 2023 08: 47
      Quote: Wildcat
      All that is required is to “guarantee order” - but no one has succeeded with this since 1947.

      Give it to Kadyrov
      Everything is simple with him - three warning shots in the air, if people are slowing down, then the fourth one in the forehead
      The question is whether he will agree laughing and what will be the status of Gaza
    2. 0
      4 November 2023 17: 15
      IMHO, judging by what the Israelis write:
      Hamas can claim anything, even the downing of the Death Star/US special forces/all armies of the world at once.
      The story with Hamas in Gaza will end one way or another (an interesting question is whether they will continue in Qatar...).
      That's right!
    3. Aag
      +1
      4 November 2023 23: 16
      Quote: Wildcat
      How painful are Palestinian guerrilla attacks on the IDF?

      If we take even Hamas’s data as truth, then the IDF’s losses in manpower do not seem serious. So, on November 1, 20 people were declared killed.

      But technically everything looks more intense. Thus, on November 2, Hamas reported the destruction of 6 enemy tanks and 2 armored personnel carriers over the past 48 hours. Six tanks outside the city limits in a couple of days is not so little. Considering the fact that even Tel Aviv allocates at least 3-4 months for an operation against the Gaza Strip.


      IMHO, judging by what the Israelis write:
      Hamas can claim anything, even the downing of the Death Star/US special forces/all armies of the world at once.
      The story with Hamas in Gaza will end one way or another (an interesting question is whether they will continue in Qatar...).
      The Gaza Strip has already been “cut in two”, it will be “cleared” of Hamas, the duration of the operation is estimated as months, the IDF losses will be estimated as “hundreds”. After 07.10.2023/XNUMX/XNUMX (and for now) such losses are classified as “expected and inevitable”.

      They take it more seriously that the further from 07.10.2023/XNUMX/XNUMX, the more Israel will be urged to stop from the “disproportionate use of force” by peace activists like Greta Thunberg, Antonio Guterres and Angelina Jolie.
      What will come of this is unclear.

      Hezbollah is assessed as a more serious enemy. Even its missile potential, without a “northern front” in the form of a ground operation, is assessed as capable of overloading Israel’s air defense and the number of casualties will be in the hundreds.
      Yemen, Algeria and who else is going to fight there is unimportant.

      The main question to which no one has an answer is what will happen in Gaza after the Iron Swords.
      For obvious reasons - “there is little sense, there are many losses” - Israel refrains from occupying Gaza after it left “after Oslo.”
      According to rumors and “controlled leaks,” Egypt does not want to deal with Gaza; the military there only recently dealt with its Hamas.
      Jordan doesn’t want to, because “last time we barely fought them off with tanks.”
      Nobody even wants to let Palestinians in “for a while.”
      The option of “UN peacekeepers” is being discussed, but this is a so-so story, everyone understands that they will have to serve as peacekeepers for decades.

      In general, there is a land on the Mediterranean coast (a great place for anything, from beaches to a port) that is 60 km long and about 10 km wide. Now her neighbors are looking for justice and sane authority for her.
      Nobody wants to run the People's Republic on minimal wages, with regular donations from Qatar, the EU, the UN and other rich Pinocchios? Plus gratitude from Egypt, Israel, Jordan and Lebanon? All that is required is to “guarantee order” - but no one has succeeded with this since 1947.

      Sorry, well, - honestly, - I don’t understand such “cheerfulness.” (bald) - yeah, I’ll shovel it off...
      Well, yes.... I’m afraid to even recall the slogan of the USSR: “PEACE IN THE WORLD!” Forgot?! I understand - a utopia.... But! The message is right!!
      It is still exploited by the current authorities of the Russian Federation. Only in their own (their own interests)... There is no talk about the people. At this stage, they will deliver (they will give the go-ahead for the import of hundreds of thousands of “voters”... They don’t care about what’s next! Their children are in Europe. Frozen in past years....
      Yes, - in Latvia, for example, they already sprinkle the roads with a sand-salt mixture... Salt from Egypt! (Belarus is under sanctions, Ukraine, Russia are at war)... I will not repeat myself about amminium pipelines, gas and oil pipelines...
      (yeah, - kick, - who cares!
      Happy Unity Day! By the way. Don't choke!).
    4. PPD
      +1
      5 November 2023 11: 02
      Hamas can say anything

      And Hamas says whatever it wants.
      Why did he start all this?
      I can’t believe in his victory at all.
      But the fact that ruins of the city will remain is more accurate.
      And there will also be something needed there, including Hamas.
      Why do they exist? They don’t sow wheat on rooftops. request
      1. +1
        5 November 2023 14: 22
        Why would Hamas eat if it simply ceases to exist? At least in the form of a serious political-terrorist organization. Israel will crush this into dust, it’s already clear, judging by the duration of the military operation and the forces involved
        And also the fact that Israel, through diplomacy, simply openly sends everyone away with their advice on how to be more tolerant with terrorist kami.
        Why did he start? Well, they are led by cynical and educated people, but pursuing their own goals - money/power. And the fanatic performers (see recent Dagestan), faith, as you know, is an irrational thing, so they got it..... The bottom of the pair was lowered, and the top received a profit in the form of a historical event.
        Although how sick you have to be to organize such actions for such purposes.
        But that's how they are
  6. -11
    4 November 2023 06: 40
    However, Israel's main problems lie ahead.
    And this is felt both in Israel and the United States, despite the “cheerful and optimistic” reports of the operation. At the same time, the world is increasingly condemning Israel's actions and blaming the Americans for starting and supporting this conflict.
    1. +10
      4 November 2023 06: 55
      Quote: rotmistr60
      However, Israel's main problems lie ahead.
      And this is felt both in Israel and the United States, despite the “cheerful and optimistic” reports of the operation. At the same time, the world is increasingly condemning Israel's actions and blaming the Americans for starting and supporting this conflict.

      There are many people condemned in the world: dozens of countries in the West, East, North, South... Condemners themselves are constantly condemned by other convicts... There are short-term and long-term interests, political, economic and other interests at play.
    2. Aag
      +1
      4 November 2023 23: 28
      Guys!!! Just look at the comments over the last three days - you will be horrified by such unity!
      Yes, today my wife and I watched “The Storm Gates”... I probably watched it for the fifth time...
      It is perceived differently. I understand, I’m getting old... Nevertheless, some points are still relevant today! I won’t emphasize it, but people in the know will understand; those who wish will find it; those who are curious will cover it; for the rest, don't bother...
      1. -1
        7 November 2023 09: 20
        How is Pashinin? :) is the independent player playing normally?
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      1. +4
        4 November 2023 09: 06
        I have no relatives there. What I mean is that for more than seven decades, the Jews have seized the lands allocated by the UN for a Palestinian state, are systematically squeezing the Palestinians out of their lands, and will not give up the voluntarily seized territories as long as their overlord is in power. The Jews also grabbed the Golan Heights from Syria. They are constantly bombing Syria, Lebanon, at one time they destroyed the nuclear center in Iraq, they are doing dirty tricks on Iran - remember the incidents at Iranian enterprises... Therefore, I think that since the Jews are preventing the fulfillment of UN demands for the creation of a Palestinian state (for more than 70 years!), then they are needed deprive them of the opportunity to have their own state. It is clear that this is very difficult to do both because of the fragmentation of the Arab world and because the Jews have nuclear weapons... Therefore, in my opinion, it is high time for Iran to acquire its own nuclear weapons. Then the Jews will be careful not to threaten their neighbors with their arsenal. Remember how the United States tried to threaten the DPRK - and how it ended! The mattresses just deflated...
        1. +4
          4 November 2023 11: 54
          Well, that is, the Arabs who do not want to see Israel in any form have anything to do with this conflict? They “did not start wars,” after which their territory naturally decreased and they “agreed” to UN resolutions.

          Israel, of course, must answer for its crimes against civilians, but I would not present the Arabs as “victims of the Zionists.”

          It’s strange that you cited the DPRK as an example. That's why China is behind them. But no one will stand up for Iran.
          And is it unlikely that Russia needs another nuclear power nearby?
          1. 0
            4 November 2023 16: 17
            Israel is clearly to blame for this conflict. He has captured and is increasingly capturing foreign lands. And he is not going to give the Palestinians the territories allocated by the UN for the formation of a Palestinian state. And until he gives it up, the conflict will last for decades.
            About North Korea. I deeply doubt that China would defend North Korea - it would find 666 excuses why this should not be done. The main thing there is the determination of Korea itself to defend itself. And China is a thing in itself. Our guarantor is mistaken in thinking that China is our friend. A friend in words and in deeds supports Western sanctions against our state. And we sell gas to them at such a price that the costs of our pipelines are unlikely to pay off... We have already had conflicts provoked precisely by China. Remember Afghanistan - then the Chinese, together with mattress makers, incited and armed the Mujahideen.
            And Iran must have nuclear weapons precisely as a counterbalance to the fascists of Israel.
            1. +1
              4 November 2023 17: 31
              And Iran must have nuclear weapons precisely as a counterbalance to the fascists of Israel.
              belay Is it okay that the ayatollahs called the Soviet Union a lesser Satan?! And yes, are you sure that the religious regime will be friendly to the Russian Federation?! winked
            2. +3
              4 November 2023 20: 58
              I completely agree with your thesis about China. But why don’t you think that another group may come to power and the country will suddenly have phantom pains over the Persian Empire. And perhaps we will be asked to politely leave the same Syria
        2. +1
          6 November 2023 23: 21
          Excuse me, but did Israel just seize these UN lands because of irrepressible greed? Or did something like that happen there before, around 1948?
      2. 0
        7 November 2023 09: 21
        Why "thousands"? According to all official data, Hamas stole over 200 people.
  8. +12
    4 November 2023 07: 00
    Quote: Pessimist22
    Who cares who wins? Let both sides inflict the greatest damage on each other, let the United States spend large resources in the form of dollars and ammunition there, this will be a good course of the conflict.

    That's right: "... Divide et impera..."
    1. +11
      4 November 2023 08: 27
      I absolutely agree. Here you can also remember Truman with his famous quote on this matter.
  9. +5
    4 November 2023 07: 49
    The Yemeni Houthis have already declared war on Israel.
    They even started shelling, but the Houthi missiles are intercepted by Saudi air defense systems, and the Saudis have not yet finished their conversation with the Houthis. It is not realistic yet to talk about some kind of coalition of Islamic states. There are enough contradictions between them, and when there is no agreement among the comrades, their business will not go well.
  10. +6
    4 November 2023 08: 58
    Hamas can do little to oppose it, it’s a matter of time, everything is there, maybe it will continue to be uneasy there, but it will no longer be an active phase as it is now.
  11. +3
    4 November 2023 10: 30
    A lot of anonymous articles have appeared on VO lately. What is it for?
  12. -2
    4 November 2023 11: 01
    That's it, the Gaza Strip has been sold to the Arabs. Israel has started supplying gas to Egypt, the West has turned a blind eye to Iranian oil exports. I was talking about the behind-the-scenes fuss. Now one question, where will the Palestinians be resettled?
  13. +3
    4 November 2023 11: 13
    Quote: SERGE ANT
    I absolutely agree. Here you can also remember Truman with his famous quote on this matter.

    Thank you for understanding me.
  14. +5
    4 November 2023 12: 26
    Israel can handle it, after all, a regular army with artillery and aviation is storming a small area of ​​land, against not the most well-trained fighters with, at most, grenade launchers. There is too much attention, we have our own war close at hand, much larger and more difficult, Israel will attract the attention and money of the United States, let it do a good job, redeem its instructors, so to speak.....
  15. -5
    4 November 2023 16: 01
    The IDF is moving forward precisely with equipment without “soldier” cover. This can be explained by the high sensitivity of Jewish society to losses in manpower. And Israel, naturally, does not want to suffer serious human losses from the very beginning.

    So, all Israeli armored vehicles will be burned in the city.
    If Israel has unlimited reserves of armored vehicles, then this strategy will be a winning one for it.
  16. -1
    4 November 2023 17: 29
    Quote: 2 level advisor
    Quote: Tikhonov_Alexander
    The fascist Jews of Israel will spoil a lot of blood for the Arabs. But I hope that the terrorist Jewish state will be destroyed through the efforts of the united Arab world. And no USA or Geyropa will be able to save this fascist Jewish state. And the remaining fascist Jews will again be scattered throughout the world... This is how it should be and will be.

    I wonder what you would write if militants from a neighboring country invaded your country and killed several hundred people and took away several thousand more? It seems to me that they would have written something else.. I’m not in support of anyone, but you, Alexander, simply don’t have any objectivity.. everyone there is “good” in their own way.. for me personally, this is a completely alien conflict, but for you why so close - relatives there?
    From the point of view of sensible observers, one gets the impression that a lot of completely biased and inadequate, and often provocative comments on this topic are written not so much by anti-Semitic chauvinists, but by latent Islamist radicals... winked
  17. -1
    6 November 2023 20: 31
    For Dvinsk.
    I read the Tlg channel.
    About fertility.
    And the meaning of childbirth. Number of children, amounts, etc.
    Everything makes sense. But it's secondary.
    At the core is the Ministry of Culture.
    There they put it into the subconscious for 70-80 years and lead them through life.
    And the recommendation for TV-furniture-fast food, etc., etc. is necessary in the circle of a family and 3-5 children. And medicines. And smartphones. And tourism. And a car. AND...
    Все.
    But our population is controlled by the Ministry of Health. They only treat. Their abortions are the maximum participation in dnmography.
    Without a change of customer, it’s empty.
  18. 0
    11 November 2023 02: 12
    I think neutrally. The map shows that the issue there will be resolved quickly. The blue ones will go around the city, driving the green ones into the city itself, some into the sea, blockade the city, and the green transoms. The striped ones will hold back those who want to intervene, everyone will hide in the bushes...