“New Palestine”: The US and Israel are preparing to occupy the Gaza Strip

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“New Palestine”: The US and Israel are preparing to occupy the Gaza Strip


Gaza without Hamas


Overthrow of the existing government system and creation of a new administration under external control. Another leak, announced by Bloomberg, characterizes the complex contours of the negotiations between Israel and the United States.



First of all, it is necessary to make a reservation - the sources of the American publication do not always act as reliable insiders; often stuffing is organized through journalists. For example, to assess the reaction of public opinion. Nevertheless, the model of the post-war structure of the Gaza Strip may not be without interest.


The detailing of the future Palestinian enclave even before the start of the IDF ground operation looks unusual. The Israeli military has not dared to invade the Gaza Strip for more than two weeks. There are several theories why this does not happen.

The first is that Jerusalem and its partners fear the mass death of hostages. After all, there are more than two hundred people held captive by the Palestinian Arabs. But this is just a version.

In fact, the fight for the lives of the hostages never stopped either the Mossad or the IDF. Given the unprecedented civilian casualties on October 7, the deaths of two hundred prisoners as collateral damage are not considered critical.

The second version is that the Israeli military is seriously afraid that it will not carry out the operation to destroy Hamas militants. Hezbollah and Iran have promised to go to war in the event of an invasion, and this appears to be taken seriously in Jerusalem.

The Palestinians are capable of creating big problems in the urban areas of the world's most populous agglomeration, even for such a perfect army as the Israel Defense Forces. The Jews have already lost several dozen tanks with armored vehicles and, not yet starting the ground phase of the operation, need American help.

In recent years, at least 500 kilometers of underground passages have been dug in the Gaza Strip, through which militants can transport vehicles, light armored vehicles and artillery. The IDF is forced to prepare not just a ground operation, but also underground raids with very ambiguous effectiveness.

The third version of postponing the attack, and it is also the most unlikely, is global condemnation of the actions of the Israeli army in the Gaza Strip. Now even the most sympathetic comrade to Israel understands that the Jews overdid it in destroying manpower and civilians of the Palestinian Authority. All over the world, people are seething, demanding that the Gaza Strip be left alone. Time is not on Jerusalem’s side at all in this situation - the more they protest, the more difficult it will be to attack. But support from Washington has been received, and a political decision to invade can be made at any time.

The military is ready. The head of the General Staff of the Israel Defense Forces, Herzi Halevi, said the other day:

“The IDF forces are currently holding their positions and defending themselves resolutely. The army is ready for a ground operation in the Gaza Strip, and we, together with the country's political leadership, will decide on the goals and timing of the next step. We keep the enemy on their toes. There are both tactical and strategic considerations now that give us more time to prepare."

The key objective of the ground part of Operation Iron Swords is to destroy Hamas' military capabilities. So that the militants will never be able to decide to attack again.

But it is very difficult to estimate how long it will take and with what collateral damage it will be possible to demolish power in the Gaza Strip. From 20 to 40 thousand motivated and sincerely hating Israel militants will not just give up their land.

Provisional government?


It is not clear how to take Gaza.

It is even more unclear what to do with it after the fall. If Hamas falls, of course.

Israel does not yet intend to remain on the territory of the Palestinian Authority. The occupation will be temporary. As soon as the last Israeli soldier leaves Gaza, anarchy and chaos will begin in the enclave. Temporary, of course, but it will ultimately lead to the same Hamas coming to power, but with a different sauce.

The Arabs’ hatred of the Israelis will not evaporate, and “dark forces” will certainly take advantage of this. In this case, the Americans and the Israelis are trying to create an alternative development scenario. Until the creation of a “second Palestine”.

Arab states plan to involve Arab states in the creation of a new administration. And this is, perhaps, the first failure of the agreements. Even now, Israel's war crimes evoke poorly concealed disgust in the Arab world. When the IDF invades, the atrocities will certainly not decrease. Will this help further normalize the situation in the Gaza Strip? Moreover, when the leaders of the Arab states are seated at the same table with people whose hands are up to their shoulders in the blood of Palestinians.

If the Israelis intend to build a “new security reality,” as Defense Secretary Gallant put it, they will have to do it without neighboring countries. Moreover, in the Arab world there is a special attitude towards the Palestinians of the Gaza Strip. This is clearly seen in the behavior of Egypt, which refused to accept refugees from the war zone. The inhabitants of the enclave became outcasts for their own and blood enemies for strangers.


If the parties (primarily the Israelis) had tried to comply with UN Resolution 181 of 1947, the situation would not have been so bloody.

Opposition leader in Israel Yair Lapid has proposed returning the “real” Palestine to Gaza, which is on the West Bank of the Jordan River.

This model is also not easy.

Firstly, ordinary people in the enclave are not particularly sympathetic to Ramallah (the capital of Palestine), which will not allow the Palestine National Liberation Movement, which we know as Fatah, to win the elections. To the question of the locals: “What were you doing when the Israelis were killing us?”, there is unlikely to be an adequate answer in Ramallah.

Secondly, governing the Gaza Strip while sitting on the West Bank of the Jordan River is a dubious idea. It couldn’t be done decades ago, why should it work now?

As a result, a situation arises where about two million Palestinians may find themselves without normal statehood.

The plan of Washington and Jerusalem is also not feasible due to the many “black swans”.

First, Hamas leaders can easily go abroad – to Qatar, for example – and there proclaim a government in exile. It costs nothing to muddy the waters in the enclave for years, sabotaging all peace initiatives. Moreover, external control can be organized even if the entire top of the movement dies. The structure of the group is networked, and two new ones will immediately appear in the place of the killed leader.

What will Netanyahu do with this turnaround? Will he go to war with Qatar?

The second "black swan" stories – this is a shaky throne under Netanyahu himself. Israel has long been dissatisfied with the policies of the immortal prime minister, primarily with judicial reform. The war somewhat strengthened his position, but delaying the ground retaliation operation is gradually destroying the leader’s authority.

Israel is really belligerent and will not tolerate a truce with the Arabs. Moreover, the hysteria around the events of October 7 was created precisely to incite ethnic hatred. Remember the monstrous fake with beheaded babies. Jerusalem has nowhere to run - it is necessary to storm the Gaza Strip.

But the price may not appeal to ordinary Israelis. The losses will hit every home, and Netanyahu’s son will never return from Miami. 32-year-old Yair is in no hurry to return home with the rest of the reservists and prefers to fight the Palestinians remotely.

Therefore, a real alternative to the utopian plans for a “new Palestine” will be the banal occupation of the Gaza Strip by the Israeli army. First, the allies will play at democracy, and then they will simply station the military on a permanent basis. It is possible that the Americans will also have military bases. If, of course, Israel's ground operation goes well. And this is a sea of ​​blood on both sides.

A war in the Middle East, even without the intervention of third parties, promises a new level of violence in the region.
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  1. +5
    29 October 2023 04: 06
    A good old Soviet cartoon from the Krokodil magazine, which has not lost its relevance almost fifty years later.
  2. +8
    29 October 2023 04: 18
    If the parties (primarily the Israelis) tried to comply with UN resolution 181 of 1947
    The Jews, although they were not happy with the scrap of land allotted to them, so cut as a result of British intrigues, agreed with the resolution. But the Arabs completely rejected it. They were not satisfied with Israel within any boundaries. In general, from the word “absolutely”. They were satisfied only with Arab Palestine “from the river to the sea.” They started what in Israel is called the “War of Independence,” thereby nullifying the resolution along with the given map. Israel won and received much more land than was provided for in the resolution, by right of the victor. The remnants of the so-called “territories of the Arab Palestinian state” were divided among themselves and annexed by Egypt (Gaza Strip) and Transjordan, which on this occasion was renamed Jordan. The Arabs, who had these lands under control, did not think of creating any Palestinian state and did not create it until the 1967 war, in which Israel again won and gained control over these lands. And only then the Arabs, as if by agreement (however, why “how”? precisely by agreement) started talking about the formation of a Palestinian state on these lands. Who stopped them when they really could have done it?
    1. -2
      29 October 2023 05: 23
      Quote: Nagan
      The Jews, although they were not happy with the scrap of land allotted to them, so cut as a result of British intrigues, agreed with the resolution

      So they agreed that, contrary to this very Resolution, they snatched away from the Arabs all their land allocated to them by the UN...
      1. +6
        29 October 2023 05: 45
        Quote: Luminman
        So they agreed that, contrary to this very Resolution, they snatched away from the Arabs all their land allocated to them by the UN...

        If you had read what you wrote carefully and to the end, you would not have written what you wrote. But okay, I’ll repeat it for you: the Arabs rejected GA 181 and launched a war against Israel, thereby depriving 181 of any meaning and legal force. Israel won the War of Independence, and took all the territory it could by right of the winner. This is the fault of the Arabs alone.
        1. 0
          29 October 2023 05: 57
          Quote: Nagan
          Arabs rejected GA 181 and started a war against Israel

          What would you do if a neighbor decided to build a house in your garden?
          1. -13
            29 October 2023 06: 19
            In this case, it was the Arabs who built houses in the Jewish garden, taking advantage of the absence of the owner. And then the owner returned and presented his rights.
            1. +2
              29 October 2023 06: 23
              Quote: Nagan
              And then the owner returned and presented his rights

              If this owner returned to his lands in ten or at least fifty years, you would be right! However, almost 2000 years have passed and this land has already been developed by others - hence the problems...
              1. -4
                29 October 2023 06: 34
                Any indigenous population is nothing more than the descendants of the last conquerors. You can take and hold the land - it is yours. While you can. If you can't, get out.
                And there is only one exception - north of the Black Sea. The indigenous population there has not changed since the dill killed the dinosaurs and began to try with a digging stick to the place where the Black Sea is now. And they dumped the excavated soil where Crimea is now, and therefore they declare that Crimce Ukraine.
                1. +1
                  30 October 2023 01: 08
                  Quote: Nagan
                  You can take and hold the land - it is yours. While you can. If you can't, get out.


                  Well done, American expat, you speak the truth.
                  These are your new compatriots who have “swept out” from Vietnam and Afghanistan. And both times with human and reputational losses. But Russia will not leave Little Russia, no matter how much anyone wants to.
              2. +2
                30 October 2023 20: 31
                Quote: Luminman
                If this owner returned to his lands in ten or at least fifty years, you would be right! However, almost 2000 years have passed and this land has already been developed by others - hence the problems...

                A small correction after all, “not for the sake of truth, but for the truth for” laughing
                There have always been small Jewish settlements there, 100 and 200 and 500 years ago.
                It was at the end of the 19th and beginning of the 20th (as far as I remember, I am not an expert on Zionism) - fresh Jews began to move there.
                And then the state appeared
                1. -1
                  1 November 2023 21: 13
                  Quote from tsvetahaki
                  A small correction after all, “not for the sake of truth, but for the truth for”

                  "Your truth, my truth - truth is all around and nowhere is it"
                  Russian proverb
                  Quote from tsvetahaki
                  Quote: Luminman
                  If this owner returned to his lands in ten or at least fifty years, you would be right! However, almost 2000 years have passed and this land has already been developed by others - hence the problems...


                  There have always been small Jewish settlements there, 100 and 200 and 500 years ago.
                  It was at the end of the 19th and beginning of the 20th (as far as I remember, I am not an expert on Zionism) - fresh Jews began to move there.
                  And then the state appeared

                  According to your logic, if “fresh Jews” begin to move to the Caucasus or somewhere else... then “a state will appear there.”
                  If you go far, you need to decide on your position, that is, on the truth. Yes, still following Nagan’s logic, you still need to start a fight relying on the main beneficiary, for a complete set - like a military trophy is sacred.
          2. +2
            29 October 2023 12: 46
            Here the situation is more interesting because it was the territory of the British Empire under their occupation
    2. +11
      29 October 2023 07: 48
      And why minus it?! This is true. Whatever it is. But the truth apparently hurts someone’s eyes. By the way, the Arabs attacked the Jews exactly on the second day after the adoption of the Declaration of Independence of the State of Israel. And this was in 1948. So look who started it first and when. And to avoid sweeping accusations of bias, I am not at all delighted with Israel and do not support it. Just like the Arabs. The actions of which I also don’t feel delighted with.
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  3. +3
    29 October 2023 04: 53
    All this is clear what is written above. But this is all tactics. At the root lies the conflict between Arab Muslims and Arab Jews. This contradiction is insoluble because of church denominations. Someone will have to die. They will fight until the last.
    Bad news.
    1. +1
      30 October 2023 20: 37
      Quote: Gnefredov
      All this is clear what is written above. But this is all tactics. At the root lies the conflict between Arab Muslims and Arab Jews. This contradiction is insoluble because of church denominations. Someone will have to die. They will fight until the last.
      Bad news.

      You are right, plus it is very convenient to have someone to blame for any religion and state. There is no point in thinking, criticizing, or building about your Arabs when there is Israel - it must be destroyed.
      So I completely agree - they will fight.
      And this is good for us, no matter how cynical it may be.
      There will be no enemy - Israel, we will be.
      20 million migrants, the lands of the North Caucasus still occupied by the Russian Empire where the brothers of the Palestinians live... Work a little, redirect money from aid to Palestine and - oops, this has never happened and now...
  4. 0
    29 October 2023 05: 11
    Quote: Nagan
    If the parties (primarily the Israelis) tried to comply with UN resolution 181 of 1947
    The Jews, although they were not happy with the scrap of land allotted to them, so cut as a result of British intrigues, agreed with the resolution. But the Arabs completely rejected it. They were not satisfied with Israel within any boundaries. In general, from the word “absolutely”. They were satisfied only with Arab Palestine “from the river to the sea.” They started what in Israel is called the “War of Independence,” thereby nullifying the resolution along with the given map. Israel won and received much more land than was provided for in the resolution, by right of the victor. The remnants of the so-called “territories of the Arab Palestinian state” were divided among themselves and annexed by Egypt (Gaza Strip) and Transjordan, which on this occasion was renamed Jordan. The Arabs, who had these lands under control, did not think of creating any Palestinian state and did not create it until the 1967 war, in which Israel again won and gained control over these lands. And only then the Arabs, as if by agreement (however, why “how”? precisely by agreement) started talking about the formation of a Palestinian state on these lands. Who stopped them when they really could have done it?


    Yes, everything was laid out logically. And it's not true. Because the root of the problem remains. There is a battle for Faith going on. Some have the eternal Sharia (the eternal path and the whole planet believes in this path). Others have Judaism. There is your own Path.
    And the basis of the problem is religious. The same "Ukrainians" who are Orthodox will beat the faces of the Catholic Poles. The time just hasn't come yet.
    1. +1
      29 October 2023 05: 24
      Quote: Gnefredov
      There is a battle for Faith going on

      There is a battle between Arabs and Zionists for their land...
    2. +1
      29 October 2023 06: 13
      Quote: Gnefredov
      Because the root of the problem remains. There is a battle for Faith going on

      That's exactly half true.
      Quote: Gnefredov
      Some have the eternal Sharia (the eternal path and the whole planet believes in this path).
      Right. The land that finds itself in the power of Muslims cannot pass into the power of infidels, and if this happens, it is an insult to Islam, Allah, the prophet, and generally an undermining of the foundations. Therefore, the very existence of Israel within any borders, even 1967, even 1947, is sacrilege, and all true believers are obliged to take the path of jihad and give their life and soul to correct this.
      Quote: Gnefredov
      Others have Judaism.

      Wrong. Orthodox Jews are the least Zionists; they don’t care whether the country is called Israel or Palestine, as long as they are not prevented from praying. Most of them do not work, spend all their free time studying Torah and Talmud, receive benefits and other benefits from Israel, and believe that all other Jews are indebted to them, because they pray for everyone. But the Zionists are mostly secular, they are fine in the synagogue on major holidays, and on Shabbat they do whatever they want, and they don’t necessarily eat kosher. Some do not even consider themselves Jews, and some whose maternal grandmother is incorrect are not considered Jews by the Orthodox themselves. But at the same time, they consider themselves Jews and fight for the right of the Jewish people to live in the land of their ancestors. They are fighting successfully, several generations of Jews have already grown up who do not know any other country except Israel, and for this country they will fight, kill, and if necessary, die. There are, of course, religious Zionists, but they don’t wear sidelocks, hats, or coats, and in addition to praying and studying the Torah and Talmud, they also work and live.
      And the Arabs, in a mirror image, have grown up generations who have not only never set foot on this notorious Palestine, but have not even seen it from afar, and have no chance of seeing it.
  5. 0
    29 October 2023 05: 52
    Israel faces several challenges. And one of them is the maintenance of 300 thousand reservists who left the national economy. It’s not for nothing that they started calling for new Jews. For such a small country, 300 thousand is a lot. Israel will take a long time to prepare for the attack. And perhaps it won’t start this year. True, emotions can let Israel down.
    1. +2
      29 October 2023 05: 58
      Quote: Nikolay Malyugin
      maintenance of 300 thousand reservists

      All this will be paid for by American taxpayers...
    2. -3
      29 October 2023 08: 06
      The oil and gas giants have not divided up the shelf gases yet.
      As soon as the media starts singing about defending democracy, and the good Yankees will go with humanitarian aid to Gaza, and they will condemn Israel, but they will not withdraw their troops, and schools will be built in Sinai to raise a new pro-Western generation and 100 more goodies.
      Build a decent gas pipeline, 50-60 billion m3 in the EU - not Yamal, but still.
      And then take away Egypt, too, its shelf. Zap companies profit, bankers peace on the BBW, on their own terms. Biden said everything about world order. Or... everything is in ruins
    3. BAI
      +1
      29 October 2023 10: 09
      Israel has already begun to disband reservists.
      In general, the population of Jews in New York is larger than in Tel Aviv. And there is also Buenos Airos - the 3rd largest population. There may be volunteers
  6. -3
    29 October 2023 06: 01
    First, the allies will play at democracy, and then they will simply station the military on a permanent basis.
    I completely agree with the author, especially if the Americans actively intervened in this. Lavrov said correctly: “The destruction of the Gaza Strip will create a catastrophe for decades, or even a century.”
  7. +1
    29 October 2023 06: 13
    Quote: Luminman
    Quote: Gnefredov
    There is a battle for Faith going on

    There is a battle between Arabs and Zionists for their land...

    No dear, you are wrong. There are genetically “Arabs”, both of them. There is a battle going on for Jerusalem. The question is whose temple will ultimately be erected. Whose faith is more correct? And for these guys, this is a matter of principle.

    UPD. I must note that neither the all-earth caliphate (head - ax-head, if you don’t agree) nor the guys that Christ was not recognized (who is not with us is against us, Jews) suits me. In both cases, both sides will take my head off because I am Orthodox.
    And here, discussing weapons, we are slowly approaching the meaning of existence. To the meaning of life.
    1. +1
      29 October 2023 06: 15
      Quote: Gnefredov
      The question is whose temple will eventually be erected

      This is just ideological wallpaper...
  8. 0
    29 October 2023 06: 20
    The author did not reveal the role of Turkey and Erdogan in this conflict... the Turkish Sultan is also rushing and rushing to demand that Israel end the conflict.
  9. +1
    29 October 2023 06: 28
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    The author did not reveal the role of Turkey and Erdogan in this conflict... the Turkish Sultan is also rushing and rushing to demand that Israel end the conflict.

    What is there not to understand? Brothers and sisters are killed here. And the Jews' brothers and sisters were killed.
    We need to look at the root of the conflict. It is very important. They fight for faith. The rest is included.
    At least connect the UN. Useless.
  10. 0
    29 October 2023 06: 29
    Quote: Gnefredov
    Because the root of the problem remains. There is a battle for Faith going on.

    smile Yes, yes, something is reminiscent of the crusaders’ campaigns for new lands... under the guise of a struggle for the values ​​of faith.
    In the same way, NATO is now moving east under the slogan of fighting for the values ​​of democracy and human rights.
    The reason for the struggle for faith is very convenient for invading someone who has a different faith.
    Israel in this regard is no different from the same Adolf Schicklgrubber.
    1. +1
      29 October 2023 06: 35
      Yes, yes, something reminiscent of the crusaders’ campaigns for new lands

      Exactly. This very definition was on the tip of my tongue.
    2. +2
      29 October 2023 16: 19
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      Yes, yes, something is reminiscent of the crusaders’ campaigns for new lands... under the guise of a struggle for the values ​​of faith.
      Well, then the campaigns of the crusaders for the old lands: before the conquest by the Arabs, all sorts of Syria and Egypt were Christian. They thought of declaring the Crusades when the Arabs had already entered Spain.
  11. 0
    29 October 2023 06: 43
    Quote: Luminman
    Quote: Gnefredov
    There is a battle for Faith going on

    There is a battle between Arabs and Zionists for their land...


    For the sacred, mind you.
  12. +5
    29 October 2023 06: 55
    Quote: Luminman
    Quote: Gnefredov
    The question is whose temple will eventually be erected

    This is just ideological wallpaper...

    Well, I do not. The mosque stands in Jerusalem. Is this wallpaper?
    And the sacred fire from the Holy Sepulcher, wallpaper?
    --
    That's the whole ideology for you.
  13. +1
    29 October 2023 07: 05
    Quote: Gnefredov
    Well, I do not. The mosque stands in Jerusalem. Is this wallpaper?
    And the sacred fire from the Holy Sepulcher, wallpaper?
    --
    That's the whole ideology for you.

    The main thing is the land on which they are located smile .
  14. +1
    29 October 2023 07: 06
    We follow oil prices...
  15. +3
    29 October 2023 07: 08
    Quote: Gnefredov
    We need to look at the root of the conflict. It is very important. They fight for faith. The rest is included.
    At least connect the UN. Useless.
    I don't agree with your thesis.
    The root of conflict in all wars is always economic...and the rest, including faith, is included.
  16. +1
    29 October 2023 07: 15
    Quote: parusnik
    We follow oil prices...

    During and after the elections in the USA... let's see what group of bandits will come to power there... the Biden gang are outright lawless swindlers... the Trump gang is more civil... but the same honest bandits only in profile.
    1. BAI
      +3
      29 October 2023 10: 05
      US elections won't change anything
  17. 0
    29 October 2023 08: 07
    occupation, it turns out, is above the norms of international law, and the appointment of the “hegemon” to the occupiers to be jupiters, and the occupied to be bulls, such an appointment has long been a spit on international law, and to justify oneself for everything that is permitted by the former, and for the struggle of the latter against
    occupiers, in this case turn into a war of religions. You say, then the Jews have no chance, because then all the major religions will now finally resolve the issue of those who betrayed Christ? So the whole trouble is that both Jews and, for example, Catholics are now united around 3.14 derasts and this is their common religion. Most likely, even then they betrayed Christ together, well, some betrayed others and crucified them, so now the rest of the religions will have to fight against the alliance of like-minded people...
  18. +1
    29 October 2023 08: 21
    The United States and Israel are probably trying to convince Egypt to re-occupy the Gaza Strip under the guise of a “interim international government.” The Egyptian military really does not like the Muslim Brotherhood (banned in the Russian Federation), of which Hamas is a branch, and the Egyptians will act using their own methods.
    1. -5
      29 October 2023 16: 21
      Quote from Escariot
      The Egyptian military really does not like the Muslim Brotherhood (banned in the Russian Federation), of which Hamas is a branch.
      Hamas was created by Israel, how can they be a branch of the Muslim Brotherhood?
      1. 0
        29 October 2023 16: 39
        Quote: bk0010
        Quote from Escariot
        The Egyptian military really does not like the Muslim Brotherhood (banned in the Russian Federation), of which Hamas is a branch.
        Hamas was created by Israel, how can they be a branch of the Muslim Brotherhood?

        Hamas was not created by Israel. At one time, Israel did not put much pressure on Hamas so that they, in turn, would be a counterweight to Fatah and the PLO. In general, the history of cooperation between Israel and Hamas is quite an interesting thing. In the end, Israel was pleased with the activity of the Brotherhood in Syria, which acted as opponents of Bashir Assad and Hezbollah. But now these Sunnis have become involved with Shiite Iran. Several years ago, Hamas fought with Hezbollah in Syria, and now they are on the same team - the works of the Lord are truly inscrutable.
  19. BAI
    0
    29 October 2023 10: 04
    Many questions are not covered.
    China is sending a fleet.
    There are calls to use nuclear weapons in Pakistan.
    Hamas releases Russian hostages.
    Etc.
    In general - all fortune-telling on coffee grounds
  20. 0
    29 October 2023 16: 56
    The second version is that the Israeli military is seriously afraid that it will not carry out the operation to destroy Hamas militants. Hezbollah and Iran have promised to go to war in the event of an invasion, and this appears to be taken seriously in Jerusalem.
    The Palestinians are capable of creating big problems in the urban areas of the world's most populous agglomeration, even for such a perfect army as the Israel Defense Forces. The Jews have already lost several dozen tanks and armored vehicles and, even before the ground phase of the operation has begun, they need American help.
    The province has gone to write again! Some fanciful wishes for the needs of “fans” of the Islamists...
    Firstly, ordinary people in the enclave are not particularly sympathetic to Ramallah (the capital of Palestine), which will not allow the Palestine National Liberation Movement, which we know as Fatah, to win the elections. To the question of the locals: “What were you doing when the Israelis were killing us?”, there is unlikely to be an adequate answer in Ramallah.
    But they don’t want to ask the Hamas leadership for “this” and for any economy in Gaza???
    1. +4
      30 October 2023 09: 50
      The local Hamas support group does not want to ask anything from Hamas.
      The "Military Review Martyrs' Brigade" is fighting the Israeli military as best they can from their sofas; but, IMHO, I do not exclude the option of switching to active actions by the “brigade”.

      For reference: since October 7, 2023, there has not been a single article on Military Review about Russian hostages. And about the dead Russians too.
      For those who are not in the know, I inform you: "TASS
      ❗️Representatives of the Hamas movement promised to respond to Russia’s request to release eight Russians held hostage. This was stated to us by the special representative of the Russian President for the Middle East and African countries, Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs of Russia Mikhail Bogdanov.
      ... Russian Ambassador to Israel Anatoly Viktorov reported on October 20 that the number of dead Russians is 20 people. Press Secretary of the Russian President Dmitry Peskov on October 24 did not rule out that the data on Russians killed due to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict may change, since “there is a real war going on” in the region
      "." https://t.me/tass_agency

      At the same time, just today two pro-Hamas articles were published on VO, “strongly condemning the Israeli military.”

      Bravo.
      Another decisive victory for our diplomacy and personally for Vladimir Vladimir Putin. The people who took eight Russian hostages (and don’t forget 20 more corpses) were accepted for negotiations in Moscow, thank the Russian Federation for their support and promise to release the hostages (someday).
      All Military Review is delighted.

      By the way, after the “dashing nineties” and “eighties”, dear Russians should understand that there is no need to flirt with “bearded freedom fighters”.
      But no, we decided to try again.

      Ivana, not remembering kinship! am
      1. +1
        30 October 2023 21: 44
        The local Hamas support group does not want to ask anything from Hamas.
        The "Military Review Martyrs' Brigade" is fighting the Israeli military as best they can from their sofas; but, IMHO, I do not exclude the option of switching to active actions by the “brigade”.

        For reference: since October 7, 2023, there has not been a single article on Military Review about Russian hostages. And about the dead Russians too.
        ... The people who took eight Russian hostages (and don’t forget another 20 corpses) were accepted for negotiations in Moscow, thank the Russian Federation for their support and promise to release the hostages (someday).
        All Military Review is delighted.

        By the way, after the “dashing nineties” and “eighties”, dear Russians should understand that there is no need to flirt with “bearded freedom fighters”.
        But no, we decided to try again.
        Absolutely true!
        By the way, I would like to inform you that the chances of releasing our citizens are very vague, judging by the vague statements of the Hamas leadership. In addition, provocative texts and comments in support of Islamist radicals (essentially supporters of the global caliphate) are a very dangerous method of information warfare of our agitprop. Yesterday in Dagestan there were new riots “in search of Jews,” this time at the airport. Of course, relations with Israel are slowly deteriorating; does anyone really want the opportunity to move from false accusations of their support for the Armed Forces of Ukraine to real ones???
  21. +2
    30 October 2023 13: 13
    The main problem is that the Palestinians do not have a clear leader with whom it would be possible to reach an agreement to end the war. The occupation of a sector is a step of desperation with unpredictable consequences, a complete cleansing of the sector is impossible, a puppet government is a very temporary matter, if possible at all. Probably, the world community, if it were less disunited, would be able to offer something, even a temporary UN Armed Forces, but these are not the times.
    In general, the situation is developing from bad to worse.
  22. +1
    30 October 2023 16: 45
    Quote: Wildcat
    By the way, after the “dashing nineties” and “eighties”, dear Russians should understand that there is no need to flirt with “bearded freedom fighters”.

    IMHO, not everything is really so sad, but everything is very understandable. Firstly, we have many Muslims, and secondly, Israel is much stronger than the Gaza Strip, and now everyone is waiting for its retaliatory strike, pitying the weaker side. Well, there is probably some resentment mixed in because many “creative” people left for Israel.
    Yes, and probably the TV picture showing murdered Arab children is also effective.
    Don't get angry or exaggerate.