Paraimos - the genocide that was forgotten

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Paraimos - the genocide that was forgotten
Card of the gypsy Karl Stojko, arrested by the Gestapo in 1943


Settela and Karl


The genocide of Jews during the years of Nazi rule in Europe, if disputed, is by complete outcasts and admirers of the Third Reich. However, using the example of the Holocaust, one can see how hypocritical world politics and public opinion can look.



But first story one photo.


The tragically famous photograph of Settella Steinbach. 1944

It shows a ten-year-old girl, Settella Steinbach, looking out of a train car heading to Auschwitz from the Westerbork camp. The fate of the unfortunate woman was sealed, and she died in the camp in early August 1944. The whole family died along with the girl - her mother, two sisters, two brothers, her aunt, her two nephews and her niece. Only the father of the family survived.

Settela was filmed by the Jewish prisoner Rudolf Breslauer - he acted on the orders of the chief of Westerbork. This tragedy would have remained one of millions, but the piercing and doomed look of Settella became one of the symbols of the Holocaust.

An equally tragic truth was revealed only in 1992 through the efforts of the Dutch journalist Ad Wagenaar. The "girl in the headscarf" was not actually Jewish, but a gypsy originally from Buchten, in the Dutch province of Limburg. Settela's family apparently fled Germany after 1933, when the Nazis passed a law requiring the sterilization of Jews, Gypsies, Sinti and Roma.

Since the mid-30s, German Sinti and Roma were kept in special camps. Thus began the most little-known genocide in Europe, for which the Germans did not want to repent for many decades.


Gypsies in the Hellerwiese camp in Vienna. 1940 Most of the Roma and Sinti in Austria will be exterminated in death camps.

It is significant that the tragedy of the Roma is still not fully understood. There is very little documentary evidence of the genocide, and there was no one particularly involved in collecting data.

Europe has not remembered the massacres of Roma and Sinti for decades. For example, in Austria, 90 percent of the Roma were exterminated during the war, but the first memorial plaque appeared in the Mauthausen concentration camp only in 1994. In addition to the story of Settela Steinbach, eight other personal tragedies have been well studied.

For example, the fate of Karl Stoica. His family belongs to the Lovar people, an ethnic group of gypsies formed in the territory of modern Hungary. Karl was born in 1931 in Wampersdorf, a small village in Lower Saxony.






Karl Stojko's brothers and himself on Gestapo registration cards in 1944.

In 1940, his father was arrested and sent to Dachau, and then to Mauthausen, where he died. A year later, my grandparents were sent to the camp. Karl himself was arrested on March 3, 1943, when the Reich decided to finally get rid of the gypsies. The boy miraculously managed to survive, and years later he recalled the day of his arrest this way:

“The door opened and the school superintendent, the director and several people in heavy leather coats – Gestapo men – came in. We all had to jump up and shout “Heil Hitler!” I joined in, of course, but then they started whispering to our teacher, who suddenly turned to me and sadly said, “Come on, Carly Stance, you’ll have to go with them now!” I took my things, and a police car and a truck already full of gypsies were waiting for us below.”

At the end of March, together with 2,5 thousand Austrian gypsies, Sinti and Roma, Karl ended up in the Auschwitz-Birkenau camp.








Carl's grandparents and parents. Only the mother survived.

He was incredibly lucky - the boy was able to get a job as a waiter in the SS canteen, where he earned food for himself. And for his family - his sister and mother lived in one of the barracks. While waiting for the Soviet Army, the Germans decided to evacuate part of Auschwitz to Buchenwald. For this, the strongest and youngest were selected.


Auschwitz-Birkenau. Barracks have been designated for Gypsies and Sinti.








Gypsy camp Hodonin in Czechoslovakia.

Karl's mother managed to place her son in a group of evacuees, although the boy was not suitable in age. He later recalled his uncle Lulo, who remained forever in Auschwitz:

“My uncle named Lulo died voluntarily, although he could have saved himself. He passed the selection, but his wife and three children remained. As we started to leave, she stood on the other side of the fence, looked at him and said, “Lulo, are you going to leave us here alone?” He managed to get back to camp, stayed with his family, took their hands and watched us leave. He was a hero, but one of those heroes that no one ever talks about."

On August 2, 1944, the Germans exterminated 2 prisoners of the special “Gypsy” barracks at Auschwitz in gas chambers. Karl and his brother Mongo survived, and in 900 they learned that, miraculously, their mother and three sisters had survived.

Paraimos


Gypsies were a big problem for the Nazis. On the one hand, they were direct descendants of those same Aryans from India. On the other hand, they led, as it seemed to the Germans, a shameful lifestyle, wandering, begging and stealing.

As a result, the “scientists” of the Third Reich decided that the Gypsies and Sinti were the product of mixing pure Aryans with lower races. The Scientific Research Institute of Racial Hygiene, opened in Germany back in 1927, was tasked with proving this. The office flourished in 1936, when it plunged into pseudoscientific evidence of the racial superiority of the Aryans. Suffice it to say that Joseph Mengele worked part-time at the institute, supplying the locals with abundant material from Auschwitz.

Eva Justin, the closest assistant to the director of the institute, Eugen Fischer, also worked on gypsy topics. The German woman can rightfully be considered one of the accomplices of the genocide of Roma and Sinti in the Third Reich. The Nazi built her scientific career on proving the inferiority and danger of, in her opinion, inferior races.

The topic of her doctoral dissertation, “Biographical destinies of Roma children and their descendants who were raised in a manner inappropriate for their species,” is indicative. According to the conditions of the experiment, 41 Sinti children were raised in isolation from their parents and the traditions of the people. The Nazi tried to prove that the characteristics of behavior and intelligence of Sinti and Roma are innate and do not depend on the environment.


Amalia Shaikh, one of the few survivors of Eva Justin's research


Sinti children in a Catholic orphanage at a monastery in Mulfingen.

She took a lot of photographs, filmed with a movie camera and conducted psychological tests. Of course, she proved what was necessary, defended her doctoral dissertation, and on May 9, 1944, the children were taken from the orphanage to Auschwitz.

Interestingly, the German Catholic Church was aware of the fate of the Sinti children from Justin's sample, but did nothing to save them. Churchmen in Europe still dispute this shameful accusation.

Almost all of the children in the camp died; among the miraculous survivors was Amalia Shaikh. She remained silent for decades, without disclosing details, because she saw that yesterday’s killers lived quietly in European society. Eva Justin, for example, after the war worked as a psychologist for the Frankfurt police and even helped in the work of the commission on compensation for victims of the Holocaust. She died in 1966 from cancer. Amalia Shaikh spoke about her experiences in old age in 1994.






The forced sterilization law of 1933, the “Nuremberg Laws” and the Magirus-Deutz gas chamber near one of the camps with Gypsies and Sinti.

Robert Ritter, head of the biological research station for genetics of the Imperial Health Administration, as well as the Institute of Criminal Biology under the Gestapo, also escaped retribution.

Ritter coined the term “hidden mental retardation,” which affected Roma and Sinti people. In the 30s, German fears that the disease might spread forced the sterilization of several hundred Roma.

Like his comrade-in-arms Eva Justin, Ritter was fluent in the gypsy language, which endeared him to future victims. The Nazi compiled his own card index, took anthropometric measurements, took blood for racist research and determined who was a gypsy and who was not.

The Gestapo was guided by Ritter's manuals for selecting unfortunates for concentration camps. After the war he lived a full life, worked as a pediatrician and died in 1951. The charges against him were dropped because they were brought by “some gypsies.”


A Sinti prisoner photographed at the Sachsenhausen concentration camp in 1938.


Sinti or Roma children photographed by a German soldier in the Warsaw Ghetto.

In total, the Nazis and their collaborators killed up to half a million Roma and Sinti people in Europe. This is at least half the pre-war number of nationalities. We will never know the exact number of deaths - there was too much hatred and indifference towards the Gypsies in Europe on the part of everyone.

In culture, the terrible period received the name “Paraimos” or “devouring, destroying.” There is a second interpretation, meaning: “desecration, rape.”

Anti-Gypsy sentiment in Europe continued after the war, which is not surprising - no one could stand up for the unfortunate. The Roma did not receive their own statehood, like the Israeli one, and will never receive it again.

The Germans only recognized the genocide in 1982, but never paid decent reparations to anyone. Meanwhile, the tragic phenomena of the Holocaust and paraimos should be considered exclusively on one plane.
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  1. +8
    26 October 2023 04: 57
    Anti-Gypsy sentiment in Europe continued after the war, which is not surprising - no one could stand up for the unfortunate.
    The destruction of peoples is a crime. But about “hatred because of defenselessness”... You probably don’t need to quote from the movie “Snatch” - “Snatch” to understand the reasons for the dislike for the wandering tribe.
    1. +18
      26 October 2023 05: 11
      The tragic phenomena of the Holocaust and paraimos should be considered exclusively on the same plane.
      But don’t forget about the 27 million Soviet people who died from the Nazis and fascists.
      1. +8
        26 October 2023 08: 44
        The article shows how Nazism developed. And at the beginning they tried to prove that behavior depends on nationality and not on upbringing. Now Nazism has been brought up in those who were exterminated by the same Nazis.
        1. +2
          27 October 2023 10: 30
          Quote from Mitos
          they tried to prove that behavior depends on nationality and not on upbringing


          Well, actually, behavior depends on both heredity and upbringing. it's just a scientific fact.
      2. +9
        26 October 2023 09: 18
        Quote from Uncle Lee
        But don’t forget about the 27 million Soviet people who died from the Nazis and fascists.

        Yes, it's not worth it. Especially when the terms "Holocaust" or "Shoah" or "paraimos" are used. In the USSR there was a verified position that the Holocaust was the other side of Zionism (the reactionary chauvinistic ideology and policy of the Jewish bourgeoisie).
        Yes, we need to remember about the peoples against whom genocide was used during WWII (Chinese, Russians, Jews, Gypsies - in descending order of victims). But highlighting a national tragedy means erasing its causes. And the reason is capitalism.
        Therefore, when you say "Holocaust" or "paraimos", you agree with the Fuhrer on something.
        1. -16
          27 October 2023 10: 39
          Quote: big_fun
          But highlighting a national tragedy means erasing its causes. And the reason is capitalism.
          Therefore, when you say "Holocaust" or "paraimos", you agree with the Fuhrer on something.


          And how did the Jews interfere with capitalism?
          Of course this is Marxist nonsense. The reason is not “capitalism” (this is generally an internal concept of the communist sect), but totalitarianism - It is no coincidence that in Bolshevik Russia, on a different economic basis, the communists were in no way behind their German totalitarian brothers-in-arms in terms of the scope of genocide. So it’s you, gentlemen of the Soviet Union, who “agree with the Fuhrer”
          1. +5
            27 October 2023 22: 22
            In Ukraine, a bomb fell on a mental hospital and you were missing? Whose genocide was committed by the communists?
            The Jews rather did not interfere, but rather acted as a scapegoat for German capitalism, because... It was the Jews who were presented by Nazi propaganda as agents of communism, and communism was the sinister plan of the Zionists to destroy the Aryan race, because At that time, the German bourgeoisie and nobility had only just recovered from the November Revolution and feared the coming to power of left-wing parties. But the roots of anti-Semitism were much deeper, in general, German Nazism was a copy of British colonial policy, and all this was a capitalist camp that sought to turn the Soviet Union into a colony and either exterminate our peoples or use them as slaves, read the plan of Herbert Bakke, a stupid person.
            1. -8
              30 October 2023 15: 07
              Communists mainly specialize in the genocide of the titular nation they enslaved, through starvation and political repression. In Russia: red terror - 2 million, great terror - 4 million, famine of the 20s - 5 million, famine of the 30s - 7 million, this is not counting the civil war and the fact that millions of Russians were saved by humanitarian aid from those same "capitalists" in the 20s (American Relief Administration , League of Nations, etc.). Well, the creation and consolidation of “Ukraine” at the expense of the Russian nation also benefits the communists. In China, according to official data, from 60 to 80 million people are victims of hunger and repression. But the socialist competition in genocide was won by the Cambodian comrades - in just 3 years, the communists destroyed 8 out of a population of 3 million. No “fascists” even dreamed of such a pace. Of course, communism is the most bloody, misanthropic, deceitful and disgusting ideology in world history. Unfortunately, it has not been completely eradicated - millions of fools still believe.
              Of course, “capitalism” had nothing to do with Jews. Blaming everything on their imaginary “capitalism” is a typical feature of mentally ill Marxist sectarians. In fact, anti-Semitism has a history of several thousand years. I came across an article on the wiki about “ancient anti-Semitism” - the ancient Greeks attributed to the Jews: 1) financial fraud at the expense of the “goyim” 2) secret hatred of other peoples 3) ritual human sacrifices. By and large, little has changed since then. And “anti-Semitism” in the West was not invented by Aloizych. Thus, anti-Semitism is not of an economic (and certainly not “capitalist”), but of a national-ideological nature.
              1. +2
                31 October 2023 10: 45
                Some kind of verbal diarrhea. Nazism and communism are ideas and can only be judged on the basis of their definitions. So this is the main definition of communism - peace, equality, brotherhood, the main message of Nazism - its own exclusivity and contempt for other nations. So what, Nazism is better? I'm not talking about implementation, that's a separate topic. And in your head, sorry, you have a lot of crap. Starving America in the 30s was precisely fed by the USSR, for which they sent it engineers and equipment. Pure business and no one owes anyone.
                1. -3
                  31 October 2023 21: 43
                  Nazism is an idea, and communism is precisely not an idea, but an economic formation, like capitalism.
              2. +1
                31 October 2023 11: 15
                And if you are going to argue, first read the Belotserkovsky Bill, how in blessed America people died of hunger right at their workplace, if, of course, they managed to find such a thing, or re-watch Charlie Chaplin.
              3. -3
                31 October 2023 20: 42
                Can you explain what communism is and how it differs from capitalism? Just without your nonsense and inventions, but give a clear definition.

                Communists mainly specialize not in the destruction of the titular nation, but in the destruction of fools like you, and not through hunger and repression, Tsarist Russia did this well, but through educational programs or sending them to a mental hospital.

                In Russia: red terror - 2 million, great terror - 4 million, famine of the 20s - 5 million, famine of the 30s - 7 million
                - you better read the demography in Russia after the arrival of the capitalists in the 90s, you stupid person, and if the titular nation was destroyed, how do you explain the growth of its numbers? Write down the population of the RSFSR from 1920 to 1989.

                “Of course, “capitalism” had nothing to do with Jews.” - in your impoverished fantasy it certainly didn’t, in reality it was really so, it’s enough to trace the development of Nazi propaganda, by the way, they wrote about the same nonsense that you’re pushing here, aren’t you a Nazi?
          2. +3
            2 November 2023 14: 38
            Well, if they were not inferior in scope, then
            - exactly how many were killed?
            - how exactly (the Nazis had ditches where people were shot immediately, and crematoria)
            - where exactly they killed (the Germans still had death camps and concentration camps)
            ...
            And here's an interesting statistic
            Population of the Russian Federation in 1993 148 million
            Population of the Russian Federation in 2023 146 million
            And this takes into account Crimea and numerous migrants. I don’t know what the reason is, maybe it was oligarchic terror
      3. SSR
        +1
        26 October 2023 20: 37
        Quote from Uncle Lee
        But don’t forget about the 27 million Soviet people who died from the Nazis and fascists.

        And who knows or remembers that the last Zoo park with people in Europe was closed only in 1958?
        And this is after the terrible WW2.
      4. 0
        27 December 2023 12: 15
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        The tragic phenomena of the Holocaust and paraimos should be considered exclusively on the same plane.
        But don’t forget about the 27 million Soviet people who died from the Nazis and fascists.

        I wonder how many of these 27 million are Jews and Gypsies?
        1. 0
          27 December 2023 13: 21
          "The number of Soviet Jews who found themselves in the territory occupied by the Germans amounted to 2,75-2,90 million people, most of them died"
    2. +3
      26 October 2023 06: 57
      You probably don’t need to quote from the movie “Snatch” - “Snatch” to understand the reasons for the dislike for the wandering tribe
      Especially in the Goblin translation, they will be banned.
      But the Irish gypsies shown by Guy Ritchie are quite decent people. Some representatives even have their own airline.
    3. +9
      26 October 2023 08: 56
      In the film "Snatch" we are not talking about the gypsies - Roma, but about the "Irish gypsies" - Shelt. These are not related peoples.
    4. +1
      26 October 2023 13: 33
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      You probably don’t need to quote from the movie “Snatch” - “Snatch” to understand the reasons for the dislike for the wandering tribe.

      why not bring it? There are many quotes from there, the film is a cult
  2. +18
    26 October 2023 05: 54
    “What else did he do that was good?
    - He delivered us from the gypsies.
    - But gypsies are very nice people.
    - What do you! Horrible! True, I have never seen a single gypsy in my life. But back in school I learned that these people are scary" (c).
    1. +5
      26 October 2023 16: 59
      Quote: parusnik
      But back in school I learned that these people are scary" (c).

      Scary... perhaps not. But their way of life is really annoying.
      True, one point needs to be taken into account. For us, all gypsies look the same. But in fact, they are divided into not just ethno-cultural groups, but practically castes. Who have very little contact with each other and certainly do not mix through marriages.
      For example, the well-known Nikolai Slichenko is a serf. And those who beg throughout the Krasnodar Territory are most likely Vlachs or Kurds (these are not the Kurds who are fighting the Turks!).
      1. +2
        26 October 2023 17: 37
        Some sing and dance.
        Others steal and sell drugs.
        Some give their children an education.
        Others teach children theft and fraud...
        Everything is like everyone else..
        1. +2
          26 October 2023 22: 38
          Quote: hohol95
          Some sing and dance.
          Others steal and sell drugs.
          Some give their children an education.
          Others teach children theft and fraud...
          Everything is like everyone else..

          Yes. but as usual, the meaning is in the details... and these details are the proportions of these groups... where, for example, the group providing education is an order of magnitude smaller than the rest..
  3. +9
    26 October 2023 07: 09
    Europe has not remembered the massacres of Roma and Sinti for decades.
    Europe - yes. But the American Jew Spielberg remembered...
  4. Des
    +25
    26 October 2023 07: 14
    I rarely give + to this author. Put.
    I have a strong dislike for gypsies. From the word - absolutely. Because in my life I encountered them very closely a couple of times. Conclusion - for them (the gypsies) we are only a food source. They live in their own world, in which we (citizens of the Russian Federation, etc.) are consumables.
    It turns out the same as they (gypsies, Jews, Slavs) were for the Nazis in Germany.
    Railway station. When my wife was pregnant and was taking care of her unborn child in every possible way (we waited 7 years for an operation, and my grandmother, a healer, helped), a gypsy woman came up to her and, “speaking,” pulled out her hair. - “I’ll give my hair or all sorts of troubles to you and your child.” It's short and without gory details. It’s good that people were found and drove away the help pack that arrived. I was away and on duty.
    “The genocide of Jews during the years of Nazi rule in Europe, if disputed, is by complete outcasts and admirers of the Third Reich.” For this, I thank the author from the bottom of my heart. Here I hit the nail on the head - on the VO website.
    The Nazi invaders and their allies purposefully exterminated Jews, Gypsies, Slavs and political workers (communists). And it is true.
  5. +5
    26 October 2023 07: 17
    Filmed Settela on a video camera

    ??
    1. +5
      26 October 2023 08: 14
      The concept of a movie camera is already disappearing from colloquial use and is becoming an outdated word... smile
    2. +8
      26 October 2023 22: 28
      Okay, at least not on a smartphone...
  6. +10
    26 October 2023 07: 24
    <The gypsies have not received their own statehood, like the Israeli one, and will never receive it again.>
    Was there a desire for your own statehood?
    1. +9
      26 October 2023 09: 00
      Quote: hohol95
      Was there a desire for your own statehood?

      For what? You have to work there.
      1. +5
        26 October 2023 12: 49
        Work?
        A knapsack around my wife's neck and the forest works.
        Barons to the government.
        And complaints to the UN to receive humanitarian aid, which you can sell!
        Romanian gypsies beg in Sweden and send money to Romania!
        There was one working gypsy - Budulai!!!
        1. +2
          27 October 2023 16: 40
          Quote: hohol95
          Work?
          A knapsack around my wife's neck and the forest works.
          Barons to the government.
          And complaints to the UN to receive humanitarian aid, which you can sell!
          Romanian gypsies beg in Sweden and send money to Romania!
          There was one working gypsy - Budulai!!!

          Hm . A young guy, Gypsy, worked with me in the workshop. Locksmith of the fourth category. True, this was the time of the USSR. Mostly everyone worked then. And no one cared anything about your nationality. There was one thing. Decent person or not. Nowadays, such a concept as a decent person means something else.... It means that everything is in order with him. With money and connections.
    2. +3
      26 October 2023 16: 15
      Why do gypsies need a state?
      In order to demand a piece of the “promised” land from India
      They don't have this in their mentality.
      We must at least know their history, at least in their presentation.
      The “Irish gypsies” mentioned here, who are never gypsies, are a way of life. Yes, a nomad who has adapted to European territory. Is there a lot of crime there? And it is.
      They easily understand the faith of their country of residence.
      Take the Rohingya - these are in fact the gypsies of Southeast Asia. How are they different from European ones?
      And the population of Myanmar and other countries is pushing them out. This is genocide. But the question is why?
      In the lifestyle and criminality of this community.
      1. -1
        26 October 2023 17: 41
        Have there not been any countries in human history that lived on criminal earnings?
        Or are the gypsies still not Berber pirates and their faith does not allow them to live in bloody robbery?
        1. 0
          26 October 2023 21: 03
          No, it wasn’t faith that didn’t allow it, but those concepts that they absorbed into their consciousness with their mother’s milk.
          I have a friend, or rather 2, who lived with the gypsies in Petrozavodsk for almost a month. Only good memories of them. Although they also talked about their criminal component. And so they decided everything according to concepts that, as we know, are above the law drinks
    3. +2
      29 October 2023 15: 15
      No, and it cannot be. The list of activities that gypsies can engage in, according to caste rules, includes small crafts, fortune telling, dancing at festivals for money, and retail trade. Everyone else is being dealt with by the crap, that is, you and me.
      But a state cannot be built on such a list.

      To be fair, in the Ottoman Empire they managed to integrate, become sedentary (a part of them), in the format of craft villages. Jewelry and blacksmith's consumer goods.

      This is the only case known to me when they symbioticated with society, and did not parasitize on it.
  7. +7
    26 October 2023 07: 46
    A Jewish prisoner filmed Settela
    Regardless of the text, this phrase reveals the age of the author. Does he seriously believe there were video cameras back then? And that the prisoners had movie cameras? He himself provides food for
    marginalized and admirers of the Third Reich.
    , as he so elegantly put it about Holocaust critics.
    1. 0
      27 October 2023 13: 21
      And that the prisoners had movie cameras?

      Well, why did you attack, read the entire phrase - the German ordered it, which means he gave it the camera.
      Settela was filmed by the Jewish prisoner Rudolf Breslauer - he acted on the orders of the chief of Westerbork.
  8. +14
    26 October 2023 08: 18
    But the extermination of millions of Soviet people (Slavs, Jews, gypsies, etc.) during the Great Patriotic War in the occupied territories, in concentration camps, what can you call it?
    1. +5
      26 October 2023 08: 48
      I’ll say a well-worn phrase, but “this is different.”
      Today it is called a good investment.
      1. +4
        27 October 2023 10: 48
        Exactly ! I had to “sometimes and once” “talk” with “Jewish comrades” at VO (I mean those who have not appeared on the site for a long time...) So, “thanks to” communication with them, the expression appeared in my vocabulary "Jewish fascism"! They were ready to “cry and raise the Jewish tragedy to the height of the Eiffel Tower” because of the death of several million Jews around the world during WW2, but at the same time they were indifferent to the fact of the death of 27 million Soviet people... When I reminded about 27 million dead, then the answer was: “but that’s different!”...
    2. +2
      26 October 2023 20: 35
      Quote: kor1vet1974
      But the extermination of millions of Soviet people (Slavs, Jews, gypsies, etc.) during the Great Patriotic War in the occupied territories, in concentration camps, what can you call it?

      There is the word Holocaust, and behind it you can’t see the millions of people killed by the USSR
  9. +3
    26 October 2023 08: 40
    Unfortunately, the attitude towards the gypsies has not changed much ((as well as their attitude towards the people of non-gypsy nationality
    1. +8
      26 October 2023 16: 00
      Quote from Aleprok
      Unfortunately, attitudes towards gypsies have not changed much

      Why would he change? How they treat other peoples (considering them cash cows and not recognizing them as people equal to themselves), so do others treat them. You need to start with your loved ones. I’ve been seeing a lot of gypsies lately, sometimes I’ve encountered them, but I can’t say anything good about them. Where they settled, cheap drugs arrived on a massive scale. They don't do anything else.
  10. +11
    26 October 2023 08: 57
    . Genocide of Jews during Nazi rule in Europe

    Let the Jews write about the genocide of the Jews. Could it be better for us to write about the sacrifices that the Soviet people suffered in WW2? Liberator people. The people who defeated the fascist beast, unlike other victims of Nazism.
    1. +3
      27 October 2023 17: 54
      Quote: Stas157
      The people who defeated the fascist beast, unlike other victims of Nazism.

      Mmmm...they probably won the Third Reich, no more...
      We will defeat Ukraine.
      But fascism cannot be defeated. Alas, it is easily reproduced in the minds...
      People of different ages and education
      Quote: Des
      I have a strong dislike for gypsies. From the word - absolutely. Because in my life I encountered them very closely a couple of times. Conclusion - for them (gypsies) we are only a food source
      and 16"+"
      Quote: Senior Sailor
      Scary... perhaps not. But their way of life is really annoying.

      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      But about “hatred because of defenselessness”... You probably don’t need to quote from the movie “Snatch” - “Snatch” to understand the reasons for the dislike for the wandering tribe.

      Quote: qqqq
      Why would he change? How do they treat other peoples (considering them cash cows and not recognizing them as people equal to themselves),

      Quote: kakvastam
      Few people like the rather unique tradition of having a camp as a neighbor.


      Everyone seems to be decent people - but now you propose to “drive migrant workers to a concentration camp and feed them only for what they did in the logging camp” - 99% of VO readers joyfully will support. With the slogan “Serves them right!!! It’s high time!!!”...
      Before "Heil Hitler!" We haven’t reached it yet, but we’re already wandering somewhere nearby...
      1. 0
        27 October 2023 19: 40
        Quote: your1970
        propose now that “guest workers should be driven into a concentration camp and fed only for what they did at the logging site” - 99% of VO readers will happily support. With the slogan “Serves them right!!! It’s high time!!!”...

        What are you carrying?
        1. 0
          28 October 2023 18: 47
          Quote: Senior Sailor
          Quote: your1970
          propose now that “guest workers should be driven into a concentration camp and fed only for what they did at the logging site” - 99% of VO readers will happily support. With the slogan “Serves them right!!! It’s high time!!!”...

          What are you carrying?

          It is a direct quotes from people who morally are already prepared for the fact that if someone drives away those who "annoying"to the camp for nationality - they will agree with this...
          Just like in the Third Reich, the population agreed with the formula of “Slavs Untermensch”
          1. +1
            29 October 2023 10: 44
            Quote: your1970
            These are direct quotes from people who are already morally prepared for the fact that if someone drives those who are “annoying” into a camp for their nationality, they will agree with it...

            My words are there too.
            At what point did I call for camps or say that I would agree with this?
            Quote: your1970
            Just like in the Third Reich

            Did you attribute things to people that they didn't say?
            You are going the right way...
          2. Des
            +2
            30 October 2023 12: 30
            your1970 (Sergey), are you happy to be next door to gypsies (drugs, crime, use of stolen children for begging, unsanitary conditions, etc.)? I think no. The rest about:
            to the camp for nationality - they will agree with this...
            - speculation (cultural).
  11. +5
    26 October 2023 09: 04
    Europe is suspiciously actively being “populated” by migrants and refugees, mainly from African and Asian countries. No matter how this will lead in the future to new “outbreaks of anger and hatred” towards them, to the desire to “cleanse oneself from people of a lower race.” Or maybe they have already begun to cultivate a new “artist” and bring the situation, including the economic one, to “Mein Kampf”? Otherwise, it is difficult to understand the distortion of the history of that time that began in the West, the rehabilitation of those criminals and the justification of their crimes.
  12. +7
    26 October 2023 09: 05
    To the author, for information:
    FROM THE TEXT OF THE DOCUMENT:

    Meeting between Mihai Antonescu and Adolf Hitler in Berlin, November 27, 1941, Berlin

    ...Then I asked the Fuehrer to explain to me his point of view on the Ukrainian question, since in Bukovina there are some elements of the German army who are in favor of the Ukrainians, and the Romanian government will soon have to take a position on the Ukrainian problem in Romania. And I openly say that this position can only be against the Ukrainian element.
    I explained to the Fuehrer that this was not a matter of internal order, but a concept of general order that I was obliged to present to him. For me, the great problem of restoring Europe to a peaceful tomorrow is the solution of the Slavic question.
    The Slavic question today is much more acute and dangerous for Europe than the pressure of the German people on Europe for Richelieu and Mazarin in the Westphalian era. The German people belonged to the civilization of Europe. The German people were at the center of Europe and had institutions compatible with the civilization of Europe; and yet the Westphalian concept was to immobilize the German bloc, to divide it into hostile states and monarchies in order to prevent its unity and ensure, through counter-force, the impossibility of its expansion.
    And for many years the Slavic mass did nothing but transform and move forward, being completely incompatible with the European spirit, with the civilization of Europe. Communism is nothing more than the spiritual expression of the Slavic race.
    The large and primitive Slavic mass is not a spiritual problem for Europe, but a serious biological problem associated with European fertility. It is necessary to find radical and serious solutions to this problem, and I believe that all European states must be involved in this activity, because otherwise Europe will only achieve temporary peace and will work for the Slavs.
    The joining of Latinism, on a racial basis, to the actions of Germanism against the Slavs seems to me to be a necessity of the first order, and the position regarding the Slavs must be unshakable; any formula for separation, neutralization, occupation of Slavic territories is legal.
    That is why I believe that the formation of a Ukrainian state, and especially a large Ukrainian state, is a mistake on a pan-European scale, and I also believe that the excessive territorial strengthening and expansion of Bulgaria is an action for the benefit of the Slavs.
    In any case, for Romania, a Greater Ukraine or Greater Bulgaria means that the Slavic problem remains, if not worse. Because the Ukrainian state on our borders, based on nationalist principles and turned into a Slavic core, attracting the protoplasm of the Slavic masses from abroad, and a united and powerful Bulgaria in the Balkans, only squeeze Romania between two flanks, more threatening than yesterday. The Romanian people are anti-Slavic and have always been anti-Slavic, as well as naturally anti-Semitic.
    Therefore, Romania must be used in the new actions of Germany and not weakened by the Slavic formations encircling and surrounding its borders.
    In conclusion, I said that we Romanians have full confidence in the cause of peace and restoration that the Fuhrer is leading, and Marshal Antonescu confidently linked his Romanian destiny with the German one in the fight against communism and the Slavs in order to save the Romanian nation.
    The Fuehrer began with a heated discussion of the great Slavic problem, giving me the honor on three occasions of accepting the point of view I expressed on European reconstruction. As a basis for conversation, the Fuhrer openly told me:
    "You are right, the Slavic problem is biological, not ideological, as you said, and the fight against the Slavs must be waged by all Europeans."
    In the future Europe there should be only two races: Latin and Germanic. These two races must work together in Russia to destroy (literally - dărâma, demolish) the Slavs. You cannot oppose Russia with legal or political formulas, because the Russian problem is much more serious than many people think, and we must find solutions to the colonization and biological elimination of the Slavs.
    That is why all European peoples must work together in the fight against the Slavs, and tomorrow they must jointly transform Russia for Europe.
    Why should the Belgians have 224 inhabitants per square kilometer when Russia has such huge spaces?
    Why should my West Germans live in difficult conditions when spaces in the East offer them a future?
    My mission, said the Fuehrer, if I succeed, is to destroy the Slavs.

    If you think about the deep meaning of the above-mentioned document, it becomes clear why the West is so actively helping the Kyiv junta; they continue Hitler’s work in resolving the Slavic issue even now.
    1. +3
      27 October 2023 10: 41
      We will have a stronger base if we put forward some idea to Europe...
      The most famous toponyms of Slavic origin:
      - Chemnitz - German. Chemnitz, v.-luzh. Kamjenica, named after the small river Chemnitz, a tributary of the Zwickauer Mulde River.
      - Lusatia is a historical region of Germany, in which the Slavic people of Lusatia still live.
      - Leipzig - from the word Lipsk (cf. Lipetsk).
      - Lübeck is German. Lübeck - Lubice.
      - Rostock is German. Rostock - Rostock means a place where water spreads in different directions.
      - Ratzeburg - the Slavic settlement of Ratibor was first mentioned in the documents of the German king Henry IV in 1062 as Racesburg.
      - Prenzlau is German. Prenzlau - v.-luzh. Prenzlawj.
      - Zossen - German. Zossen - Sosny.

      and so on ...
      Europe has been practicing genocide for a long time.
      Give us our cities and lands!
      I believe there may be claims right up to the northern borders of France.. Romania did not stand against our ancestors, although it might be worth looking at the local place names....
      1. +2
        27 October 2023 10: 55
        Quote: Dart
        Give us our cities and lands!
        I believe there may be claims all the way to the northern borders of France..

        Something smelled of ideas: “We dug up the Black Sea.” My friend, everything is good in moderation.. Slavic is Slavic, but keep in mind that many of them are Slavic even now - Poland, for example, Slavs.. Slavs are not necessarily equal to Russians - have you forgotten?
        1. -1
          27 October 2023 21: 03
          I haven’t forgotten...I mean, who can put forward more justified claims to whom...what does the Black Sea diggers have to do with this, this is Fomenkoshchina...and here are the realities.
  13. +8
    26 October 2023 10: 04
    QUOTE: “The topic of her doctoral dissertation, “The biographical destinies of Gypsy children and their descendants who were raised in a manner inappropriate for their species,” is indicative.” 41 Sinti children, under the conditions of the experiment, Justin were raised in isolation from their parents and traditions of the people. The Nazi tried to prove that the peculiarities The behavior and intelligence of Sinti and Roma are innate and do not depend on the environment..."

    Frau wrote a dissertation, doctoral crap...

    In my life it so happened that I came into close contact with several gypsies and their relatives. Moreover, they were all of typical gypsy appearance - exemplary Roma (or Romaly?), even send them to an ethno-exhibition - scorching brunettes, dark-skinned, etc.
    One woman is an ordinary accountant in a reputable company. Dad is a retired tank colonel (!).
    Another, a hairdresser, charmed the old German and went to him. In Germany, Papa opened her own business with money.
    Both said that they communicated with their fellow tribesmen several times - there were no common interests, as well as common topics for conversation. They are not friends with gypsies, they do not maintain any relations.
    In the end, I will say roughly, but in essence - these two were women, like women, they differ from ours only in their bright, characteristic appearance, and in their temperament... The accountant was also a book reader, she read novels on the beach (!).

    Perhaps I communicated with assimilated people. But the main conclusion is that everything depends on the environment in which a person was raised, what was instilled in him from childhood. One was taught how to steal from train stations, the other was a highly qualified accountant. Everything is like other people. So the German Frau-Doctor of Sciences made up some bullshit...

    It’s just that the criminalized “bad” gypsies are in plain sight and more is known about them (beggars, thieves, etc., etc.). It is in this environment that the crap for which many gypsies do not like is cultivated.

    in the photo - gypsy girls in a Soviet school, 1974
    1. +4
      26 October 2023 11: 38
      It is clear that the genetic nonsense of the Nazis is a pure owl on the globe, but their communities successfully resist all attempts at assimilation, and due to rather peculiar traditions, few people like to have a camp as their neighbors.
    2. +1
      26 October 2023 22: 41
      Quote: Timofey Charuta
      In my life it so happened that I came into close contact with several gypsies and their relatives. Moreover, they were all of typical gypsy appearance - exemplary Roma (or Romaly?), even send them to an ethno-exhibition - scorching brunettes, dark-skinned, etc.
      One woman is an ordinary accountant in a reputable company. Dad is a retired tank colonel (!).
      Another, a hairdresser, charmed the old German and went to him. In Germany, Papa opened her own business with money.

      Apparently you are lucky.. NEVER!! I haven’t met such people, but I’ve met a lot of them - there are a lot of them in the city.. and the girls study at school.. up to the 6th grade at best.. and then get married.. and in 1974 the same thing happened.. or will you find gypsy Komsomol members? laughing
  14. +7
    26 October 2023 10: 32
    The Jews spat in the graves of their ancestors, fighting on the side of those who killed them against those who saved them. These are people who use the theme of the Holocaust, the theme of genocide of millions of their people for selfish purposes, building their future by killing Russian citizens, women and children in the Donbass, trying to curry favor with the West.
  15. 0
    26 October 2023 10: 55
    Correct me, please, “filmed with a video camera”, I think there were no video cameras then)
  16. +3
    26 October 2023 11: 34
    there was too much hatred and indifference towards the gypsies in Europe on the part of everyone

    It’s sad, but gypsies know how to make themselves hate...
  17. +1
    26 October 2023 12: 09
    It is significant that the tragedy of the Roma is still not fully understood.

    In Berlin, in the very center of the city, near the Reichstag building in the Tiergarten park, there is the “Memorial to the Victims of National Socialism of the Sinti and Roma Peoples.”
  18. +4
    26 October 2023 12: 17
    It is very sad that these “scientists” lived fearless and unpunished lives.
    It is precisely such “theorists” that should be severely punished, so that everyone else is turned away from such “science” for a hundred years.
    Impunity comes at a cost later.
  19. +3
    26 October 2023 13: 44
    Another portion of Fedorovism. It seems that the author remembered the genocide of the Gypsies during the Second World War with a noble goal, but in fact he was creating yet another propaganda piece. But the lack of knowledge and skills played a cruel joke on him. The author never answered why, unlike the Holocaust, porajmos was practically not covered in the USSR. nor in the countries of the socialist camp.
    Propaganda also needs to be written wisely; stupid propaganda has the opposite effect. Local acrobats of the pen will not understand this at all.
  20. +2
    26 October 2023 14: 39
    According to some reports, our intelligence officer, or rather saboteur, Nikolai Kuznetsov did not recognize the Banderaites in time because there was a gypsy among them. Armed and very visible. Well, Kuznetsov could not imagine that gypsies could be among Bandera’s supporters.
  21. +2
    26 October 2023 15: 19
    Let me remind you how they “brought” respect to their country in the years since the SR. Any visit of a foreign president or figure first of all began with the laying of flowers and a wreath at the tomb of the Unknown Soldier. And this was an unbreakable rule. That’s why no one writes or investigates the genocide of the Slavs, Russians? Who benefits from silence and attempts to present history differently.
  22. 0
    26 October 2023 17: 47
    Maybe the Dear Author will highlight the history of relations between Europeans and Gypsies in past centuries?
    Or will he write an article about modern laws, for example in the Italian Republic, adopted in an attempt to regulate the residence of persons of Roma origin?
    Fingerprinting of everyone from small to large. Issuance of state identity cards for the Line of Settlement (they write that in Italy gypsies are allowed to settle only in 2 regions).
    Is this true or not?
    Who agrees?
    WHO IS AGAINST?
    1. +7
      26 October 2023 18: 23
      Fingerprinting of everyone from small to large. Issuance of state identity cards for the Line of Settlement (they write that in Italy gypsies are allowed to settle only in 2 regions).
      Is this true or not?

      No, not so.
      There is no Pale of Settlement for Gypsies in Italy. The three cities with the largest Roma populations are Rome, Milan and Naples.
      “Fingerprinting of everyone, young and old,” was carried out only in 2008 and only in the camps of “nomadic” gypsies, of which there were more than a hundred in Italy. The goal was to identify “persons of Roma nationality” staying in Italy illegally.
      In 2018, such an event was going to be held throughout Italy, but it was declared unconstitutional. This is on the one hand. On the other hand, according to polls, 86 percent of the population is in favor of all Italian gypsies, the number of whom no one knows for sure (approximately about 170), being evicted from the country.
      1. +2
        26 October 2023 18: 38
        Italy will deal with the gypsies
        Italian authorities will conduct a census of Roma.
        "There are between 130 and 180 thousand Roma in Italy. About half of them have Italian citizenship."
        https://www.euromag.ru/politics/italija-zajmetsja-cyganami/
        About half are with Italian citizenship, and the rest are from Romania, Bulgaria and so on...
        But the Italian authorities were accused of “fascism” by European officials and petitions from illegal gypsies!
    2. +2
      26 October 2023 18: 37
      history of relations between Europeans and Gypsies in past centuries?
      The first documented appearance of gypsies in Paris was on August 17, 1421.
      1. +3
        26 October 2023 18: 56
        The first documented appearance of gypsies in Paris was on August 17, 1421.

        There are different dates. The first appearance in France was 1418 - 1419, in Paris - 1421, 1428. Obviously, it was difficult to take these people into account even then.
        1. +1
          26 October 2023 19: 19
          I was guided by the Journal d'un bourgeois de Paris.
          1. +5
            26 October 2023 19: 42
            If you believe Vaux de Foletier, François "Mille ans d'histoire des Tsiganes", then starting from 1419, the immigration of gypsies to France became quite numerous, so that they could be recorded at different times.
            By the way, I saw a gypsy in France once, in Strasbourg. The sight and activities are completely familiar to us. They begged the boss for 30 marks (there were no euros yet).
            1. +2
              26 October 2023 19: 55
              The migration routes became interesting; was it really worse to live in Europe at that time than in France?
              1. +4
                26 October 2023 21: 06
                Isn't France Europe?
                Judging by what was recorded in Germany in 1407, and in France in 1418 in Colmar, the picture below confirms that they were moving from the former Byzantium, judging by the map.

        2. +2
          26 October 2023 19: 24
          At that time, it was difficult to take into account anything at all in Paris. During the Anglo-Burgundian occupation, the city's demographics dropped by half.
      2. +1
        26 October 2023 21: 09
        You don't have to dig so deep!
        18-19 centuries and modern times.
        The beginning of the 21st century!
        I wanted to find photographs or drawings of gypsy women covered with brands, but I could not.
        I read a long time ago that when crossing the borders of the German Principalities and other Lands, gypsies were branded with a hot iron and in this way their movements across the German Lands could be tracked.
        The article contained photographs or drawings of gypsy women completely covered with scars from these brands.
        Perhaps this is how the saying “There is no place to put brands” appeared.
  23. +1
    26 October 2023 18: 48
    Even the bourgeois Russian newspaper Komersant is forced to admit that: “Under socialism, 95-96 percent of Hungarian gypsies worked in industry, construction and agriculture, had a stable income, received apartments from the state, their children went to school and received higher education. When the market came, all this collapsed.”

    https://masterok-livejournal-com.turbopages.org/masterok.livejournal.com/s/1701633.html
  24. +1
    26 October 2023 21: 23
    In 13, at the Grand Palace, Paris, there was an exhibition “La Bohème” and the first exhibit was Da Vinci’s drawing “Gypsy”.
    The exhibition is dedicated to the word "bohemia". But the beginning still comes from the gypsies who arrived in France from Bohemia.
    It's a shame we didn't show it. Simple and very cool! And everything is very clear without any guides or audio guides.
  25. -1
    26 October 2023 22: 32
    The fact that the Russians are a big nation (for now) does not mean that the Russian genocide never happened! And it was always there when, for some reason, Western “civilizers” gained even a shadow of power on Russian lands! Since the 14th century, when Poland laid its paws on Russian territories.
  26. 0
    27 October 2023 04: 05
    It’s strange: for some reason none of the “civilized countries” raises the “fashionable” topic of genocide regarding the same gypsies. The trend is “Holodomor of Ukrainians in the USSR.” Like a vivid and “only” example of genocide.
    Professional hypocrites...
  27. -1
    27 October 2023 10: 28
    We should also remember about the Armenians, and about Rwanda, and about the Indians of North America. and of course about the Red Terror in Russia - its scale, individual heartbreaking stories, and most importantly, who exactly conceived and carried it out. otherwise Jews take advantage of the guilt complex of those around them
  28. -1
    27 October 2023 10: 32
    Well, nothing, head over heels - but now, in addition to the gypsies, European society has grown so much due to the reception of millions of blacks and Arabs!
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  30. 0
    27 October 2023 11: 40
    “A Jewish prisoner filmed Settela with a video camera.” Do you read what you write? What kind of video camera in 1944?
  31. +3
    27 October 2023 11: 58
    Quote: squid
    ...and of course about the Red Terror in Russia - its scale, individual heartbreaking stories, and most importantly, who exactly conceived and carried it out.


    In the perestroika 80s, at the instigation of Ogonyok, they pulled out and revived the old White Guard story about the “White Knights”, who fought the “red demons” during the Civil War. For some reason, it so happened, according to the liberal “Ogonykov” version, that all the sadyuki and thugs of Russia came together and settled in the Cheka, and the noble gentlemen, shuffling their spurs along the parquet floors, their entire “swan flock” (according to Akhmatova), without taking off their white gloves, performed priestly duties in Denikin, Kolchak, etc. counterintelligence. No torture or atrocities, no executions, God forbid.

    Unlike the liberal Ogonykov brethren, even Anton Ivanovich Denikin himself did not think so. And he wrote this:

    Chapter XI. Memoirs of Denikin.
    The moral character of the army. "Black Pages"
    http://militera.lib.ru/memo/russian/denikin_ai2/4_11.html

    “...The troops were followed by counterintelligence.
    Never before has this institution received such widespread use as during the past period of the Civil War. It was created not only by the highest headquarters, military governors, almost every military unit, political organizations, the Don, Kuban and Terek governments, and finally, even... the propaganda department... It was some kind of fad, a painful mania created by the spilled across the country with mutual mistrust and suspicion.

    ... these bodies, covering the territory of the South with a dense network, were sometimes centers of provocation and organized robbery. The counterintelligence services of Kiev, Kharkov, Odessa, Rostov (Don) became especially famous in this regard. The fight against them went simultaneously in two directions - against self-proclaimed institutions and against individuals. The latter was ineffective, especially since they knew how to hide their crimes and often enjoyed protection their bosses who trusted them..."
    ****

    In addition to Denikin’s men, famous individuals such as Semenov, Annenkov, Shkuro became famous for their atrocities, and Baron Ungern is generally handsome!
    But the Cheka fought not only against the white “swan flock” of Akhmatova, but also against all sorts of Petlyuras, Makhnos, bastard Marusyas, etc. etc. There was even an ataman of God's Punishment. These humanists also did bad things. Even the international Red Cross was involved in the activities of Petlyura’s counterintelligence. They were especially impressed... by the electric interrogation chair, invented by a certain talented lieutenant Serga.

    “A hereditary, well-educated noblewoman, whose husband was tortured in the basements of the Cheka, is looking for a position as a governess in a good family...” - Russian emigrant newspaper in Paris. Good marketing move...

    Photo: Omsk. Victims of Kolchakism. 1919
    State Central Museum of Contemporary History
    .
    That's it, good gentlemen...
    1. -2
      27 October 2023 17: 59
      Quote: Timofey Charuta
      That's it, good gentlemen...

      Have you ever wondered why, as soon as the NEP was introduced, they had to immediately liquidate the Cheka? Let me give you a hint: there was a stir in the country BABLO...
      1. +1
        27 October 2023 19: 46
        Quote: your1970
        as soon as the NEP was introduced, I had to immediately liquidate Cheka

        Yes. Renamed.
  32. 0
    27 October 2023 23: 58
    Quote: Vladimir_2U
    Anti-Gypsy sentiment in Europe continued after the war, which is not surprising - no one could stand up for the unfortunate.
    The destruction of peoples is a crime. .

    This is the normal course of history. Some peoples appear, others disappear. Both assimilation and extinction. Or extermination. No nations exist forever.
  33. +1
    28 October 2023 11: 35
    Quote: your1970

    sv1970 (Sergey)
    Yesterday, 17: 59
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    Quote: Timofey Charuta
    That's it, good gentlemen...

    Have you ever wondered why, as soon as the NEP was introduced, the Cheka had to be liquidated immediately? Let me give you a hint - there was a stir in the country of money...


    Sir, they wrote, sorry, I don’t understand what! Game!

    Personally, I never thought about “liquidating” the Cheka. Well, they renamed the punishing sword of the revolution into the OGPU, then the NKVD appeared, the MGB, in short, there was a lot of things. As Zadornov used to say - “So what?!”... By the way, the old title of “Chekists” stuck with the security forces for a long time, they did not object, the portrait of Dzerzhinsky hung in their offices until the beginning of Gorbachev’s madhouse, busts of “Iron Felix” stood everywhere.

    Regarding the dough. It never disappears, it is always there and will be.
    Loot that never defeated evil, and in the Civil War the country was full of it (requisitioned by the Cheka, all sorts of “fathers” - gold, briuliks, etc., etc.). What the common people could have hidden in mattresses, sewn into pillows, buried treasures in wells, attics, basements - they are still being found.
    It’s just that Lenin came up with his NEP to take all these treasures of “Madame Petukhova” from “12 Chairs” out of mattresses and return them to the economy. Otherwise, where did the business with money immediately emerge from the executions of War Communism? They switched from paper waste worth millions of banknotes directly to gold chervonets.

    There were food cards, bread in octagons, food detachments caught bag scavengers but didn’t catch them - and here you suddenly have a wholesale PRIVATE absolutely legal trade in bread, restaurants, go for a walk or not...
    Nothing will come out of nothing - there has always been money, you just need to be able to take it.

    They applied the modern Chinese approach to the Nepmans - don’t get involved in politics with your chervonets, stay away from any opposition, pay taxes - and the Cheka and OGPU won’t touch you. On the contrary, they will protect all sorts of racketeers, raiders, and bandits...


  34. +2
    31 October 2023 08: 10
    When the conversation turns to Hitler’s genocide of the Gypsies and the fact that this is also a horrific tragedy, a squeal and howl rises in the Promised Land, they say, don’t ignore it, they are the only universal sufferers.
  35. 0
    16 March 2024 19: 20
    Author! There were no video cameras in those years! There were movie cameras!