About some results of the Chinese forum “One Belt, One Road”

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About some results of the Chinese forum “One Belt, One Road”

On October 18-19, a very significant event took place in Beijing - the third international forum “One Belt, One Road”, dedicated to the tenth anniversary of this Chinese economic, cultural and political initiative.

Considering that, in addition to the leaders of a number of countries, the political and economic establishment of 130 states and another thirty international organizations were represented at this forum, it was logical to expect widespread coverage of this event in the Russian media space. Moreover, one of the largest delegations from Russia was present there, and a lot of time was devoted to Russian-Chinese relations.



In the end, it is the “One Belt, One Road” project that is a real strategic alternative to the Western ultra-liberal project, and the general position of our country depends on the success of the implementation of this alternative. This is not only and not so much “logistics”, but one of the conceptual models of the future.

Unfortunately, even in terms of Russian-Chinese contacts and the results of negotiations, domestic media turned out to be extremely stingy in their coverage, largely limiting themselves to truly remarkable video footage of the Russian leader. Nevertheless, the results of some bilateral negotiations have shown us - grain contracts, activation of pipeline projects and logistics through Mongolia, projects on railway corridors.

Overall results


Regarding the general concept of the forum and the overall results of the event, not to mention the analysis of the policies of China and other players, there is obviously some gap.

Let's try to fill this gap to some extent, relying on the personalities, the situation, the final documents of the forum, as well as a retrospective of the actions of a number of its important participants.

The fact that Beijing would approach the event with all seriousness was clear from the way the Chinese leader ignored both the GXNUMX and the UN General Assembly. Last but not least, the anniversary forum “One Belt, One Road” weighs on the scales against another large-scale event, already under American patronage - the APEC summit, which will be held in November in San Francisco.

In conditions when the United States not only does not hide, but directly declares that it will try to limit China’s ambitions in Europe and Southeast Asia as much as possible, the summit in San Francisco and the forum in Beijing are becoming a kind of “show of forces” of Eastern and Western poles.

It is clear that events in Israel have had a fairly significant impact on the participation of a number of important players. For example, the leaders of Iran, Egypt and Syria are now entirely focused on the Palestinian issue. Although Egypt sent the second person in the state - the prime minister. The Arab countries that traditionally participate (UAE and Kuwait) have also reduced their delegations somewhat. In general, almost all countries in the region signed the Chinese initiative, except Israel and Jordan.

From African countries, the first and second persons were from Ethiopia, Kenya, Mozambique and Congo, the rest were represented by government delegations. Of those countries on the continent from which it would be logical to expect maximum representation, Algeria can be noted. The last meeting between the leaders of China and Algeria took place in the middle of summer, but the usual delegation came to the forum.

The Chinese initiative has long been presented as a “trade route to Europe.” The current forum clearly shows that the EU has followed and will continue to follow American strategies. From Europe, only the heads of Hungary and Serbia were present. Here everything fits into the logic of the last two years and simply emphasizes once again that “One Belt, One Road” is not so much logistics to Europe, but rather the integration of China with Eurasian, Asian and African markets and resources.

J. Borrell came to discuss EU policy three days before the forum. Discussed and left. It’s not for nothing that Washington organized its event – ​​the US-Europe summit – immediately after the Chinese forum.

And here it is noteworthy that the President of the European Commission, U. von der Leyen, once again confirmed her intention to “bring to fruition” the Global Portal initiative at the European forum in November. The idea of ​​the “portal” is to form a “global transport hub” in place of the European Union, as opposed to the Chinese “One Belt, One Road” project.

These are official goals that appear directly in the documents. It is clear that the EU as a global logistics hub is a political declaration, and the US $322 billion announced for its implementation will be better used in projects like PGII, but it once again emphasizes that in terms of the development of trade between the EU and China, a certain limit has been reached.

It’s just that what was previously implied is now included in program documents. For investors and logisticians, this is an obvious and direct signal: trade between China and the EU will now move strictly within the framework of the natural growth or decline of the EU economy, but not due to additional initiatives.

It is interesting to consider the representation of top officials from Southeast Asia, who traditionally actively participate in Chinese events. The heads of Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Indonesia, and Pakistan arrived. Malaysia, the Philippines, Myanmar and Bangladesh did not come.

And here it is interesting to look at how American diplomatic steps in this direction have already been implemented. It is clear that Malaysia sharply responded to China's new maritime maps in September by protesting, and quite harshly.

But the same “nine-dash line” that is drawn on the map affects not only Malaysia, but also Indonesia and Vietnam. For Indonesia and Vietnam, this was not a reason for refusal. By the way, on the same series of maps there are also questions on the Russian-Chinese border.

These atlases are published regularly, and it is clear that this is not entirely a matter of cartography. If the Philippines has been strictly moving towards US vassalage for several years now, Washington has been cultivating Vietnam for a long time and diligently this year.

It didn’t work out with Vietnam, but it did succeed in shaking the position in relations between China and Malaysia. And it is still not very clear what is better for China, since Malaysia still controls part of the Strait of Malacca. In general, for China, the situation in Southeast Asia does not look anything critical, given the US’s bet on Vietnam, but it is clear that the Malaysian production site and market are very significant for Beijing, and it will have to do something there.

The configuration looks very interesting from the point of view of representation in Central Asia. The leaders of Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan came to the forum, but the heads of Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan did not appear at the event.

The heads of customs services and energy came from these states. The absence of the leader of Tajikistan can somehow be connected with the presence in Beijing of a delegation from the Taliban (banned in the Russian Federation), although here it is generally necessary to do a separate material on the politics of Dushanbe in recent years - this is already a special phenomenon.

But Bishkek’s position is most likely due to the relatively low share of Chinese investments. It is also interesting that the leader of Belarus preferred a meeting with the head of Venezuela N. Maduro to the forum (and he is always active in such events). Clearly missing from Beijing was I. Aliyev, who met on Karabakh with the representative of the US State Department for Europe and Asia.

In general, from the point of view of representation in many countries, Beijing clearly failed to paint the world map in such a way as to give the United States an unambiguous forceful response. Even for interested parties in Central Asia.

Value model


Accordingly, the second part of China’s strategic idea – the “Community of Shared Destiny” value model – remained practically unrealized at this forum, although it was previously announced for wide discussion. According to the documents, China was already planning to move to a new stage of construction - to discuss projects for the digitalization of trade and the formation of a “barrier-free” trading environment. But it turned out that even in the first stage there is still no clear answer from many participants. It is clear that the situation in Israel and Karabakh is making adjustments, but everything cannot be attributed to this.

It would seem, does it really matter what is put into the category of “values” in our time? Look, the USA writes whatever they want, and crosses out whatever they want.

No, it doesn't matter. And it’s not for nothing that Beijing devoted approximately 1/3 of the entire program to cultural aspects and cultural exchange. For China, in such a strategic project, it is extremely important to move away from the thesis imposed by politics and the media of the United States and Europe about “Chinese colonization,” “Chinese credit bondage,” and “credit slavery from Beijing.”

The entire Western liberal machine works with these narratives like a jackhammer, including in Russia. We should not forget that China at one time had to harshly discipline its representatives in Africa, who allowed not always correct gestures towards local workers. And every such incident was taken seriously by the liberal media.

Theses about “Chinese expansion” are quite alive in Russia, and in Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan, Bangladesh, Myanmar and even more so in Vietnam, they are generally very stable in historical soil. China has a difficult position in both Malaysia and Indonesia, where the Chinese diaspora and the Muslim population often simply compete in production and trade. The United States is actively using this in Pakistani Balochistan.

That is, Beijing will not be able to simply attribute this to Western propaganda and put the brakes on it - we need to look for approaches. For us, residents of Russia, the thesis that the Russians and Chinese are the “axis of colonial evil” is an outlandish narrative, and it is used today by the West with might and main. And it’s not for nothing that Xi Jinping uses such an expression as: “The Belt and Road Initiative is on the right side of history.”

Therefore, the fact that China has not fully succeeded in moving towards this agenda through promoting the ideas of a “Community of Shared Destiny”, since the interests of all the main participants are not fully aligned at the primary level, is a problem and a serious task for Beijing.

These ideas are based on three theses: non-interference in domestic politics, the principle of everyone’s “honest voice”, equal rules and approaches in trade, production, culture and security. But underneath them there must be a unity of economic interests and benefits, and this issue, as we see, has not been fully resolved.

If we scrutinize the program and documentation of the Chinese forum, we will see that Beijing is generally aware of this problem and is trying to propose solutions that differ from what we have encountered in the past.

Eight steps


The Chinese leader described it as "eight steps to support the initiative."

The first of these is the widest possible logistics network, i.e., not relying on large nodes, but the formation of many flows.

The second step is the maximum digitalization of all processes and, no less important, the postulate of unconditional “investment protection.”

The third step, perhaps the most significant, is channeling multibillion-dollar investments into a "1 small projects" policy rather than focusing on "megaprojects."

The fourth step is “green energy” and the direction of investment in it as a special priority.

The fifth step is promoting innovation and China's willingness to share technology with partners.

The sixth step is investment in cultural and humanitarian ties.

The seventh is the development of a document with a list of rules for “honest cooperation within the framework of the One Belt, One Road strategy.”

The eighth step is the creation of separate international platforms.

All this means that China is ready to take into account the interests of many not very large players who do not yet see themselves within the framework of those very “megaprojects”.

For example, Belarus today is clearly not the most suitable “path to Europe,” although it is the most obvious. How many goods will pass through the logistics of Kyrgyzstan, is Malaysia satisfied with the position of a “production workshop” for an assembly site and a trading agent, which is China, and many similar questions. The Xi'an Declaration for Central Asia in May was grandiose, but it turned out that some countries do not understand how it will work at the so-called everyday level.

In fact, these are the questions that the Chinese in Beijing wanted to give a conceptual answer to. A thousand small projects plus the provision of technology with a set of uniform rules written down in documents and the principle of investment protection. Yes, this is a serious change in the ideas of the Silk Road, which generally reflects the realities of recent European and American politics and the transition to the division of world trade into macroclusters.

Another thing is that so far the current anniversary forum cannot be characterized as a breakthrough. Rather, it is the updating of the Chinese concept in conditions of extremely fierce competition with American ideas and investments, eliminating bottlenecks and misunderstandings on the part of small participating states.

For Russia and Iran, there is essentially no strategic choice, but for many other players there is a choice, and here the Chinese are answering many difficult questions at once.

How is it beneficial for the participants in the Chinese project relative to American ideas?

Breadth of coverage. Everyone knows very well that US policy is always focused on a few key points, i.e. exactly what China did before. But for the rest, all funding comes on a residual basis, through banal bribery of the political elite.

The Chinese concept, at least, declares just the opposite - many things that are small in scale, but extremely practical at the regional level. It will be interesting for businesses in smaller countries if China can institutionally and truly solve the technical issues of lending at the mid-market level. The application for this has been made.

And here China will be faced with a very difficult task - such a strategy for small projects in a number of countries is very difficult to administer, even from the point of view of staffing. China did not yet have experience in such work, and the United States usually failed its initiatives on this, even having personnel reserves and technologies.

This is the general model of the past “One Belt, One Road” forum, and the United States will have to work with these Chinese proposals in response at the upcoming APEC summit.

In this case, Russia cannot be put on the same level as the majority of states that are participating in this Chinese strategy, since Russia here acts as a kind of junior “co-initiator,” although an important and necessary co-initiator.

Without Russian resources and a “strategic rear,” China’s concept cannot be realized; on the other hand, we still need to figure out how adequately we are building a bilateral economic model for our weight and tasks for the future.
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  1. +1
    26 October 2023 05: 14
    Interestingly, the early Strugatskys still featured Chinese comrades, not personally, but in later works “Noon” no longer appears. While the early version is being implemented... The main thing is that Russia would appear later, otherwise there are doubts.
    1. +5
      26 October 2023 05: 21
      There is a separate article about Russia. Our relations must be considered separately. It was not possible to put it into one article.
      1. 0
        26 October 2023 09: 10
        1. China is the main trading partner for Russia. Both for import and export.
        2. China buys our fossil raw materials for yuan. Which they have a lot.
        3. Since Russia had to follow in the wake of the PRC’s foreign policy, the communists returned to the Russian Federation, albeit indirectly for now.
        4. Such economic and foreign policy integration will sooner or later lead to attempts by the Chinese communists to fix this situation for the long term by influencing domestic politics in Russia. The temptation is great.
        5.
        Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi went to Washington, where he intends to hold talks with a number of American officials. TASS reports this.

        The Chinese communists will conduct their policies strictly in their own favor, without regard to the opinions of their vassals.
    2. +3
      26 October 2023 08: 34
      In my library I have a copy of “The Land of Crimson Clouds,” the circulation of which was mercilessly cut into waste paper because of two paragraphs about that friendship. A copy (cruelly tattered) survived in a deeply provincial library. The country was then released again, but in tens of times smaller quantities.
      Since Boris Strugatsky did not have literary talent, but was incredibly greedy, he apparently categorically insisted on erasing any “suspicious” pieces from their joint works. Once you get burned, that's it!
  2. +5
    26 October 2023 05: 27
    For now, this Silk Road lies only in the minds. Its implementation largely depends on the international situation. Sometimes the authors do not bother to go into detail. I recently read what goods we will receive from Iran. I was dumbfounded by the number of these products. From gas turbines to refrigerators. Still, the average person loves specifics.
    1. +10
      26 October 2023 05: 40
      I had a lot of materials on the topic of Iran, and “corridors,” both with numbers and specifics. Both the American and Chinese projects are not even projects, but concepts of the future. It's not just bought slippers, sold slippers. China made major changes to its strategy and presented them.
      And a free trade agreement is being prepared with Iran, where a list of 85% of the product range will be open.
    2. +2
      26 October 2023 12: 52
      Quote: Nikolay Malyugin
      I recently read about what goods we will receive from Iran. I was dumbfounded by the number of these products. From gas turbines to refrigerators

      Where can we get acquainted with such a document? Very interesting
  3. +11
    26 October 2023 05: 46
    Without Russian resources and “strategic rear”, China’s concept cannot be realized
    Yeah, China will milk it.
    1. +5
      26 October 2023 06: 23
      From each according to his ability...
      Who has the head, who has the hands, who has the resources.
      1. +2
        26 October 2023 09: 32
        Yeah, China will milk it.

        Alexey Anatolyevich, that’s not the right word!
        I read these “eight steps” - this is creeping Chinese colonialism, insinuating and cunning. The ninth step, not positioned, not mentioned, but directly following from those listed, is cultural expansion, the imposition of one’s idea of ​​the world order and China as the dominant figure in it. The tenth step is the gradual merging of all these “small Chinese economic flows” into a single powerful current, inevitably covering not only areas close to the main logistics of the Trade Route, but also the entire host country. And also the inevitable arrival of bandit triads who will happily begin to develop new territories, and here the Chinese government will not interfere with them.
        1. +4
          26 October 2023 12: 33
          why not a word about the recent lease of Siberian lands. ?
          30 million hectares were given away this week... the media is generally silent... what are you doing???
          It’s not the Pintos overseas with homos and obstinate fascists, but the Chinese bros and dark-skinned Central Asian Muslims—that’s the real threat in the near future. and our children will already see this different reality
  4. +3
    26 October 2023 06: 19
    China is gradually crushing Asia and beyond, but for Russia against this background there are pros and cons, and unfortunately there are more cons
    1. +3
      26 October 2023 09: 59
      Honestly, I don’t see any advantages from the word at all.
      As for me, a lot is again tied to “faith and hope” in the best for our country.
      I absolutely do not believe that China is building an equal and multipolar world, and perhaps after the fall of the Western world, we will still see the smile of a new hegemon.
      Perhaps China will become a really good superpower, since it will capture minds not with “beautiful life and consumption to the maximum”, supported by violence, but in a much softer way.
      As for Russia, I don’t know. If “Russian World” turns out to be a branch of the Chinese one, I will be sad. But if we really decided not to influence geopolitics anymore the way the USSR did, then so be it (but it’s strange what we’re trying to do now)
  5. -1
    26 October 2023 06: 21
    the political and economic establishment of 130 states and another thirty international organizations were represented at this forum
    These are not European civil strife, which always include anti-Russian and anti-Chinese agendas. In response to this, the United States and the EU just recently decided to oppose China’s economic projects and its “expansion” in Africa. And the train had apparently already left.
    The eighth step is the creation of separate international platforms.
    The necessary step incl. and for us, because Most international platforms are under the influence and control of the United States.
  6. +6
    26 October 2023 08: 12
    Russia here acts as a kind of junior “co-initiator,” although an important and necessary co-initiator
    Like in a fairy tale, a father had three sons... Only the youngest one will not receive a little humpbacked horse.
  7. +2
    26 October 2023 08: 18
    To the author, your article does not mention India; it is possible that the absence of a number of countries at the forum in China is due precisely to the fact that India is beginning to formulate its concept of trade and economic relations in the global market. hi
  8. +1
    26 October 2023 08: 39
    The attractiveness of the Chinese project is undeniable. Its main attractive feature is the very presence of at least some project alternative to the project of Western civilization. This provides invaluable flexibility. These points, thanks to the presence of “green energy” and other nonsense in them, are absolutely decorative, and everyone understands this.
    Yes, China will hold back, at least at first. But what kind of “protection of investments” if there is no “interference in internal politics”?! Ours got things right with Kazakhstan, so what? Kazakhstan began to cut down our logistics. The same will happen on the Chinese path. And what should we do? Don’t interfere, watching how they fall into the abyss of hundreds of billions?)) Yes, right now...
    In general, it's a good thing. Although dangerous, of course...
    1. +4
      26 October 2023 10: 39
      In general, it's a good thing. Although dangerous, of course...

      More dangerous than good.
      I always thought the Chinese were ants. But not so long ago I had a chance to see a battle between an ant and a termite.
      A termite is a thick body, similar to a slug, with short legs, to which is attached a huge head half the size of the body. And this head is equipped with powerful jaws, reminiscent of a crab claw.
      What does a termite do? At first the ant fights with him as if on an equal footing. But then the termite bit off one leg of the ant, then the second, the ant’s fighting ability drops, gradually it loses all its legs, and the termite devours it.
      And now I compare the Chinese to termites. Especially after they began, under the guise of priority development areas leased to them by Russia for 49 years in Siberia and the Far East, to bite off our territories - try to remove them from these priority development areas at the end of the lease period! The Chinese a priori believe that historically these are their lands. Especially after these Priority Development Territories gradually but inevitably merge into One Path with their own Chinese administrations and law enforcement agencies (which is already being declared). Who would start a war with China over this! And the process began.
      1. -4
        26 October 2023 10: 45
        Quote: depressant
        they began, under the guise of priority development areas leased to them by Russia for 49 years in Siberia and the Far East, to bite off our territories

        Let me remind you that you have not confirmed in any way the veracity of your testimony regarding the “rent of Siberia by the Chinese.”

        It is clear that “a lie repeated a thousand times becomes the truth,” the only question is whether you need the laurels of Goebbels, to whom this phrase is (falsely) attributed wink laughing
        1. +1
          26 October 2023 16: 05
          One of the countless sources expressing doubt about the advisability of priority development areas on the territory of our country, as the Chinese see them, is Nezavisimaya Gazeta dated December 11.12.2022, XNUMX.
          The Far Eastern Federal District is 40% of Russian land, which is supposed to be subject to a special tax regime, and not in patches, as I said earlier. The officials are happy - all the problems of the territory, which, due to either mediocrity or real limited capabilities, they could not cope with themselves (or did not want to), will be solved by China for them.

          Meanwhile, many Russian industrialists note the tightening of China’s negotiating positions on the principle of “only sales of Chinese products, and no joint production.” NG experts remind that the efficiency of existing priority development areas remains in question, as confirmed by the audit of the Accounts Chamber.

          Well, and so on. Take at least this article, or any other of many similar ones, and read it yourself, if this problem really bothers you so much.
          I quote further:

          The Eastern Economic Forum 2023 (which is scheduled for September 5–8) needs to resolve the issue of establishing a more comfortable regime within the priority development territories (ASEZ) in the Far East, said the head of the Ministry of Eastern Development Alexey Chekunkov.

          “We are consistently working to improve the entire system of preferential regimes in the Far East and the Arctic zone of the Russian Federation, which includes priority development areas, the Free Port of Vladivostok, a new preferential zone - the Arctic zone of the Russian Federation and other regimes. The surest way is to cover the entire Far East with the TOR regime,” he noted. According to Chekunkov, “it is necessary to shorten the investor’s path.” Now, to include a new territory in a priority development area, a separate government resolution is needed. Over the seven years that the law on priority development areas has been in force, there have been about 130 such resolutions.

          That is, more than a hundred TORs, as I said. But now they are replaying everything: 40% of the entire Russian land will become a priority development area.
          Roman... Have mercy on my eyes! If you are interested, but don’t believe it, look for the material yourself. Just Google it.
      2. -1
        26 October 2023 12: 13
        Quote: depressant
        More dangerous than good.

        Right. But there are no safe ways to grow anymore. Capitalism can only grow safely into emptiness. When there are uninhabited spaces that are gradually being populated. There is room for growth in production and services aimed at generating excess profits. In principle, there is no other way to safely receive excess profits.
        If there are no empty seats, markets need to be OCCUPYED. Fighting with those who are already there. The further you go, the more you have to kill in this fight. No exit. Capitalism based on profit is impossible; what is needed is SUPER profit, and this is only possible with continuous growth.
        So you have to fight. We chose this system for the sake of a hundred varieties of sausage...
  9. +4
    26 October 2023 11: 17
    I believe that with the PRC everything will end the same (or almost) as it ended with the Soviet-Chinese friendship.
    Both partners are too ambitious, specific and different - and they also have a larger border and interests in neighboring states. And they also have a difference in vision, so to speak. And the Chinese are good traders, but we are not, while we really like to rant about this, and the Chinese perceive this as “unpredictability of relations.” And the PRC itself loves agreements with a “double bottom”; in Asia, after all, there are different traditions of doing business than in Europe - in cr. At least we will often perceive it this way.
    Plus, yes, the factor that can roughly be called “white and yellow racism” will also have an impact the more often the garbage comes out from under the carpet.

    The difference in propaganda will also be critical. What do we have, that in the PRC they love to paint the country as “the smartest guy in the village”, no one will form some semblance of a single line like the West, with its “democratic values” and “free world”, so there is an imbalance in what they say “there” and “here” will progress, and the question “who will we compare our watches by?” due to ambition and ego, it will cause fierce cramps every time.

    В long-term and, perhaps, in the long-medium term, excessive embraces with China are harmful for us, because China’s successes will, among other things, stifle what our own successes could be built on. The PRC itself will pursue a much more active and adventurous policy in Asia than we would like, and as long as we are its ally, from time to time this will also oppress our interests and benefits.
    If we can still interact with smaller countries like Iran on a more or less partnership or contractual basis, then with China this will not always be possible; for it we will always be “one of many,” although important, but far from “VIP.”

    In short, I think that our refusal to actually form a new type of empire (a la the EU) on the ruins of the USSR while actually maintaining these ambitions and mentality is a big mistake, and that all these participations in the Chinese movement are only in the short and short-medium term will bring us benefits, and then, these benefits will essentially be due to the exchange of our own potential capabilities for “money today”. The story with the PRC for us will end either with the “status quo” or with something not very good - because we are too different, too ambitious and too unequal partners.
    1. 0
      26 October 2023 13: 16
      In short, I think that our refusal to actually form a new type of empire (a la the EU) on the ruins of the USSR


      How do you imagine this? Considering that Europeans are still Russophobes, especially eastern ones. At the first opportunity, they fell under the United States, and the Americans will not allow anyone to leave the United States and set a course for rapprochement with Russia. Their military bases throughout Europe and scandals with undesirable politicians are proof of this.
      1. +1
        26 October 2023 15: 05
        The key phrase is “on the ruins of the USSR” - I deliberately did not write “on the ruins of the Department of Internal Affairs” or “social bloc oriented towards the USSR”. We are talking specifically about most of the territories that were part of the USSR and are still, to one degree or another, connected with us culturally, economically and by other ties.
        Yes, before 2022, it was much easier to “imagine” all this - now we have what we have, time was lost, many tools were missed, current events do not contribute to rapprochement based on “soft power and diplomacy” - however, we can briefly imagine something concrete .
        On the western borders of the “conditional union” - the borders with the EU are KO, Ukraine and Belarus (as part of a conditional union (hereinafter simply the Union)) - In the case of Ukraine, we do not need (in my opinion) literally everything - we probably need to come to terms with the fact that that the so-called “Western Ukraine” is alien to us and retaining it would be harmful and counterproductive. However, we need access to Moldova - because we can and should also include Moldova in the Union. An advantage of this would be access to an alternative border with the EU to Poland, with which we will not have good relations - but diversifying the current ones is quite a global task. Ideally, of course, triple diversification with access to the border with Hungary, but this creates additional problems - so this is a debatable issue.
        Thus, from the EU side, for the new Union (as I see it), it would be ideal for us to include Ukraine (without a number of western regions), Moldova and Belarus in the Union - and for the foreseeable future limit ourselves to the borders formed in such a configuration.
        In the Caucasus we it's desirable include Georgia and Armenia in the Union, because this gives us direct land communication with Iran and potentially reduces Turkey’s influence on Azerbaijan and the region as a whole in the future.
        “Desirable” because the situation and the complexity of its resolution there are such that POSSIBLY we should generally put a bolt on this region outside our current borders, so to speak. The pros and cons of including this region into the Union are approximately equal - the whole question is what policy will be correct regarding Iran, but this greatly depends on how Iran itself sees its future. Potentially yes, this is one of our stable allies in the matter of forming a continental bloc with a similar vision of things and POSSIBLY some kind of common market in the future. In fact, at the moment, this is a country with its own case of problems that, thank God, do not yet directly affect us. I can’t predict where all this will go - let’s just say that we need Iran as an ally, but an Iran that is not sharply antagonistic to Israel is, in principle, NOT a sharply antagonistic Iran. If this vision of his things continues and he is aimed at this - perhaps the best option would be to distance himself somewhat - and IN THIS CASE "perhaps“The inclusion of Georgia and Armenia in the Union and, in general, our “strong” policy in this direction is probably not worth the candle.
        The inclusion of these states in the Union would be a more difficult task than the previous and next regions.
        The key region for us is Central Asia. These territories and resources are an alternative route by land to Iran and Afghanistan. Actually, the problems of these states will STILL be our problems. If these states (Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan) are included in the Union, land relations between China and Iran will be in our hands, and it is in this case that we could take the most advantageous and convenient place for us in this potential "triple alliance".
        In this case, we (in the eyes of the PRC) actually become an equal partner, and we ourselves acquire the ability to control China’s continental initiatives, as well as the ability to limit them where they would be disadvantageous to us.
        In this regard, we would gain approximately a twofold increase in the domestic market and more convenient access to a number of foreign markets, which would make such domestic projects as the production of modern chips, machine tools, agricultural machinery and equipment much more profitable. Also, as a trading partner, our value would increase in the eyes of the EU, China and Japan, which would not fail to affect the ability of these players to find a compromise beneficial to us.
        It is precisely this “base” that would allow us to remain as a major Eurasian player and have what is necessary for the development of a truly sovereign state. In other cases, and if current trends continue, we will not be able to survive as what we mean when we say “superpower,” and in the future even our status as a powerful regional power will be subjected (already, in general, is being subjected).
        We will not have the funds and sufficient stability hand in hand with sovereignty to maintain a galaxy of ambitious projects at a decent level, implying constant large-scale R&D hand in hand with large and expensive complex production and fundamental research. The tendency has long been visible that the West is ahead of us technologically - this trend will only worsen without the Union, and in the conditions of geographical disunity of the Iran-Russia-China axis, which is empirically antagonistic to the Atlantic model in the Heartland - either this axis will not work out and the Heartland will be ruled Atlanticists, or it will develop on the terms of the PRC, which will no longer speak to us as equals, but as part of his the project.
        Within the framework of the new Union, we do not need a homeopathic Baltic region or Poland - but we should not break ties with the EU either. We just have to get ours back and consolidate this line so that they understand that this is not a reason for bargaining.
        Over time, inevitably, the EU will wither away as competition and geography take their toll. If we organize everything at the proper level, we are doomed to become the heart of Eurasia.
        Well, or become her bearish corner if we don’t do anything.
  10. +4
    26 October 2023 11: 33
    Beijing will approach the event with all seriousness

    Come or don’t come, but it will be difficult to turn the situation around. Chinese companies have shown themselves in all their glory in both Asia and Africa. Yes, the authorities came to their senses and pulled back those who had “lost their shores,” but it was too late. Now we need to prove that “we are not like that, there were mistakes and excesses on the ground.” But it is difficult to prove, and most importantly, it takes a long time, but there is no time to build up, almost no time. It’s already clear to everyone that the democrats have taken it seriously, a serious confrontation is coming, and quite heated one at that...
    Iran and North Korea, Russia, Syria and Venezuela will not go away, but this is not enough, and the remaining participants will need to be attracted firmly and for a long time. Will China cope? Let's see...