A girl who served in the IDF: Not even a pigeon can fly to the Israeli border unnoticed, but here it was broken through with tractors

The network is discussing a statement made by a former soldier of the Israeli Defense Forces (at least, this is how the girl herself introduces herself) regarding the breach of the Israeli border by Palestinian troops. Let us recall that the breakthrough occurred the day before, when several hundred members of Hamas armed units not only approached the border, but calmly overcame all defense lines and occupied several settlements in Israel, including administrative facilities in the cities of Sderot and Ashkelon.

A former IDF soldier who, according to her, was a sergeant and served near the border with the Gaza Strip, says that “there is no chance of approaching the border without being noticed.”

IDF reserve sergeant (name given - Elena):

We looked at the monitor for 4 hours and saw everything that was happening there. It was impossible to even look away. And there are 400 of them. Listen, I was woken up at night when a pigeon was noticed, when a stork approached the fence, almost when a cockroach ran under the fence. And here, it turns out, they calmly overcame everything with the help of tractors? And it turns out that none of the 400 people noticed this? Yes, I’m telling you: not even a dove will fly up unnoticed.

The girl says that this is impossible in principle.

This statement once again fueled numerous conspiracy theories, according to one of which Israeli intelligence “knew everything very well, but the Netanyahu government decided to take advantage of the moment to close the Palestinian issue once and for all.” Opponents of this theory believe that this is impossible, since “a serious reputational blow was dealt to Israeli intelligence, the IDF and the government, and people would not forgive the authorities for using them as bargaining chips in political games.”

Let us remind you that, according to official data, at least 600 people have died in Israel over the past two days.

Comments

[Neo-9947]

So what conclusion does the girl make?
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[alexoff]

She says that with her such nonsense would not have happened, she would have turned on the siren, and all the Khamamovites would have fled. Well, what if they first destroyed all the machine guns with drones - but with her, this would not have happened.

[Vladimir M]

Well, they smashed all the machine guns, but that takes time. There are a lot of videos where soldiers are in shorts and don’t even have time to take a weapon, and this despite the fact that their weapons are not stored in weapons rooms, the soldiers constantly carry them with them.

[Arzoo]

Their artillery is already working in the north, on the border with Lebanon. A completely different direction. It will no longer be possible to err on the direction and specific generals.

Standing in a group waiting for arrival Monstrous unprofessionalism. BC was laid out in a line. One vehicle packs two self-propelled guns. More behind.

If something looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, then it probably is a duck. Alas, today's IDF are complete ignoramuses. The Armed Forces of Ukraine would unwind them into rags...

[alexoff]

Israel's strength is that the United States will put pressure and will not fight against them normally. Even during the Arab-Israeli wars, no one tried to cut off Israel from the sea, although it is obvious that without fuel you cannot fight for long. There is also pressure on the wallets of the Lebanese so as not to disgrace the IDF

[dmi.pris1]

Why, the Egyptians tried. They sank the frigate, but it didn’t work out. The Israelis quickly found counteraction

[alexoff]

Somehow they didn't try. During the Yom Kippur War, they did nothing at all; the order was just to sail to the ports to hide. But at sea, whoever fired the anti-ship missiles faster won. If they had suddenly sailed to destroy the ports in the same way, it would have been very difficult for Israel to resist. In 1971, the Indians, with one missile boat, burned almost the entire port in Karachi along with ships, because they acted

[And Us Rat]

Quote from alexoff

Somehow they didn't try. During the Yom Kippur War, they did nothing at all; the order was just to sail to the ports to hide.

There were good reasons for this:

On October 7, the world's first battle between missile boats equipped with anti-ship missiles and electronic warfare equipment (on the Israeli side) took place near Latakia. The result of the battle was the victory of the Israeli fleet; 3 missile boats, 1 torpedo boat and 1 minesweeper were destroyed, without losses on the part of the Israelis.

On the night of October 9, a naval battle took place between detachments of torpedo boats from Israel (5 boats) and Egypt (4 boats). Combining electronic jamming with maneuvering, the Israelis sank 3 boats without suffering losses.

On the night of October 11–12, Israeli missile boats attacked the port of Tartus, sinking two Syrian Komar-class missile boats.

Thanks to electronic warfare systems, not a single one of the 54 P-15 Termit missiles fired by the Arabs hit the target.

[alexoff]

These are not good reasons at all; you are confusing them with consequences. In Latakia there was not a battle, but an attack by the Israelis on Syrian boats floating just like that, which, at the sight of the Israeli boats, sailed straight to the port, one even jumped ashore. For what reason did all these Syrian boats not attack simultaneously with aviation and ground forces? The Egyptians, too, after the start of the war, were suddenly attacked near their ports a couple of days later. Is this how wars are fought, that the aviation and ground forces fight, but the navy does nothing with the country, which is dependent on sea supplies?

[German]

“they say the aviation and ground forces are fighting, but the navy is doing nothing” hmm...
What conflict is this about? And about which fleet?

[alexoff]

About all the Arab-Israeli wars, especially about the supposedly well-prepared Yom Kippur War of 1973.

[Alekseev]

It’s hard to draw conclusions from the photo who is a layman....
The howitzers are most likely not at the fire stations, but in some initial area. Isn't it during exercises? Surely, there is complete evidence that the enemy does not have reconnaissance and strike weapons to get out of there. Or they think that they are well covered by air defense, the UAV will not fly over.
Now, if there is information that the Israeli artillery division was covered with something like Lancets, then, yes, they are ignoramuses.
In general, it has long been noticed by smart Germans and not only him that an army that does not fight for a long time gradually turns into a bureaucratic machine, and Israel is no exception.

[bk316]

Isn't it during exercises?

If during exercises, why are the positions not equipped?
Looks like you haven’t studied the charter?

Surely, there is complete evidence that the enemy does not have reconnaissance and strike weapons to get out of there.

There are no such opponents anymore. Mavics have taken over the world

Or they think that they are well covered by air defense

The presence of air defense does not replace the arrangement of a position.
It takes a lot of intelligence to decompose BC in this way.

So, in any case, they have bullshit.

[GUSAR]

Ours would have unwound them too. In general, I wonder how long this battery would last on the SVO with this approach?

[Luenkov]

Quote: GUSAR

Ours would have unwound them too. In general, I wonder how long this battery would last on the SVO with this approach?

We still need to find an approach, it’s a desert...

[voyaka uh]

“Alas, today’s IDF are complete ignoramuses. They would have been unwound by the Armed Forces of Ukraine into rags” ///
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I completely agree with you.
Unbeaten. They didn’t smell modern artillery warfare.

[Mikhail Ivanov]

Experts have already sorted this out today. They didn’t have a war, but persecution of the Palestinians with an overwhelming advantage in people and equipment. And now we stumbled upon reality and everything did not go according to plan...
By the way, we had an expert from Israel here, where is he?)

[Oleg Gumennov]

Well, as it were, the IDF is not only career military personnel and conscripts, it is also miluim reservists. People are constantly called up for military training and any military operations. In such a system, collapse cannot appear at once.

[Two]

The standing columns along which it arrived, this doesn’t remind you of anything, the same army as ours, the same mistakes, this still happens to us, but it has become less frequent. The army receives professionals only in war, sadly. Only Israel’s weapons are many times better, Israel will unravel these poor people and there will be no Gaza Strip at all.

[bk316]

Only Israel’s weapons are many times better

They don't have it better, the Arabs have it worse.
But this may change.
The Persians are already catching up.

[alexoff]

Apparently Netanyahu’s cunning plan told the soldiers to become dumb and not hear the explosions, so that they could then die heroically or be captured.

[blackcat]

Conclusion, she needs to return to the army so that this doesn’t happen again, and not sit on TikTok, well, that’s what they are actually doing, the Israeli authorities, general mobilization will save the world

[dmi.pris1]

Yes, it’s Saturday, it’s just... Damn... You can’t look at the monitor either...

[Vladimir M]

Maybe Saturday helped the Arabs. The attack was well organized.

[Architect]

Quote: Vladimir M

The attack was well organized.

You are hinting at specialists from the tent camp near Osipovichi

[Thrifty]

Neo9947-pigeons were bought by Hamas because they ruined all the camera lenses

[Clear]

Quote: Neo-9947

So what conclusion does the girl make?
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Conspiracy theory has gotten out of control
Why not.

[Neo-9947]

And the FSB naturally knew everything (to put it mildly), but in view of Israel’s bad behavior recently, they decided not to warn anyone and not to interfere in natural processes.
"Why not."

[Diger]

Quote: Neo-9947

So what conclusion does the girl make?

everything is set up. By the Israelis themselves.
They have elections
Shura-murs are strange in society.
/need a badass - here she is

[Mikhail Ivanov]

The conclusion is that they broke through on mopeds))) There is also a video where they generally attack on horses!)))

[isv000]

Quote: Neo-9947

So what conclusion does the girl make?
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For reference: the girl is a virgin, a virgin. Reserve sergeant Lena - where is the girl from?!!

[isv000]

Quote: isv000

For reference: the girl is a virgin, a virgin. Reserve sergeant Lena - where is the girl from?!!

Well, okay, Sergeant Lena is not a girl - but why do I get minuses?!!

[Zagrebun]

“Gaza Strip, you won’t live to see forty here...” If you try too hard, you’ll end up in trouble. The Israeli army was very advertised, but the carelessness is eternal, unchangeable and constant. No matter how hard you try, you won’t get rid of it.

[alexoff]

Fraternal Semitic peoples kill each other for the amusement of the Slavs

[Alexey Lobanov]

The best commentary of the day in all the world media, about the fraternal Semitic peoples... The cynicism of the “golden billion” will return to them...

[Zagrebun]

Before your eyes is a picture of an “expert”, broken down by year

[belovvladimir]

Didn’t see, didn’t look, etc. it all comes down to an agreement, the United States throws off like an unnecessary cargo called Israel, give 3,8 billion free of charge to Israel every year, and give it to Ukraine too, where there is a 100% black hole, there Zee is already a billionaire soon it will be, and everything will be thanks to the people’s blood that people shed for the interests of the United States and Zelensky, these are the kind of guys they are, business and nothing personal!

[Vadim S]

In the near future everything will be clear, when the general situation changes, it will be clear who needed it and benefited.

[knn54]

"Something has rotted in the Danish state" (Hamlet, Prince of Denmark)

[Murmur 55]

knn54 , it’s not so sour that it’s so rotten, Israel faces such losses here, mom, don’t worry. Intelligence or conspiracy makes no difference, it’s just a loss-loss.

[falcon]

"There is not a single chance to approach the border unnoticed..." (c).
Everything flows, everything changes... Apparently, the IDF comrades rested on their laurels for too long.

[Mimoxod]

This means that this conflict is needed at the top; ordinary people cannot understand this....

[al3x]

Well, the pigeon may be noticed, but the Palestinians are smarter than pigeons.

[Mavrikiy]

A girl who served in the IDF: Even to the Israeli border the dove will not fly up unnoticed, and then it was torn through by tractors

That's right, dear girl, but not for a pigeon, but noticing and reacting are two different things. And there was no one to react, all the festivals, Saturday, sir.

[Cat Alexandrovich]

How cute is she? She's scary! And even a sergeant, like Cerillo!

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Mavrikiy

That's right, dear girl, but not for a pigeon, but noticing and reacting are two different things. And there was no one to react, all the festivals, Saturday, sir.

They simply fell into a stupor when instead of the “dove of peace” they saw a “tractor of peace”.

[tralflot1832]

Hamas refused to continue negotiations on the fate of captured Israelis in Gaza. Hamas was not satisfied with Israeli proposals.

[Cat Alexandrovich]

This is where it gets interesting! Both Arabs and Jews are noble traders! We are watching the market.

[Soul of Russia87]

Yes, because the Zionists have Pearl Harbor 2.0 in their repertoire. Plan a “tragedy” and then, on a wave of fear and hatred, get into the necessary war.

[vfwfr]

1. Someone read that Netanyahu needed to unite the people, part of the population is a bargaining chip... (he wrote briefly).
2. An excuse was needed to end this smoldering conflict...
2.1. The Yankees need to sell weapons, they can’t make money with Ukraine anymore..
3. “They look into the camera and a fly won’t fly by...” where is the camera looking? Down!. And as they say, the Hamaa special forces arrived on paragliders... (Air defense does not see paragliders, with the exception of engines. Or it sees, but it is a very small target + low-speed...
4. From myself. 22-23 year, introduction of new tactical solutions for solving problems in mass execution...
Ukry with drones...
Boors with paragliders...
5. PS I wrote it a little chaotically and separately, as it is.

[pharmacist]

Am I the only one whose face reminds me of Maxim Galkin?

[Normann]

Am I the only one whose face reminds me of Maxim Galkin?

Catch Galkin, that's where he is)))

[Anatole Klim]

Quote from Pharmacist

her face reminds me of Maxim Galkin

Well, there is another transformation

[Most polite]

Technically it is impossible to control even the flight of a pigeon, here the girl is clearly lying.
A small perimeter or building can be completely covered with CCTV cameras, various motion sensors, etc. but not a multi-kilometer stretch of desert or whatever else they have from the natural landscape.
They would go off every five minutes and the duty shift would definitely go crazy...

[seamen2]

*I’ll shoot a pigeon - Whatever food you want! But generally speaking, Pigeons are scolded in vain: A pigeon, if in gravy, is no worse than a wood grouse*...

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

It’s definitely crows and dogs that are the main perimeter violators.

[AsmyppoL]

Somehow these events are reminiscent of the Japanese attack on the American naval base in the Pacific Ocean in December 1941. Then the US Senate several times blocked the president’s proposal to enter the European war. After the “insidious” attack, the USA declared war on Japan, and Germany was forced, in turn, to declare war on the Americans...

[Volunteer Marek]

More like September 11th...
if you follow this logic.

[Grossvater]

Just relax! There hasn’t been a truly serious mess for a long time, so the buns have been dissolved.
It's an everyday matter!
In such cases, I always give the example of Indianapolis, which was sunk already in August 45, when America had such overwhelming dominance in the Pacific Ocean that there is simply nothing to compare it with. However, the steamboat flooded, and the crew was eaten by sharks.

[alystan]

If they are the same as these girls in the video, then everything is clear why everything happened this way. Feminism is on the march, now in the Israeli army - https://t.me/dimsmirnov175/56058

[alystan]

Update:
https://t.me/arabia_socialism/5885 - израильские женщины-военнослужащие в плену, по-прежнему сидят в своих Тик-Токах. Для них похоже это самый главный смысл жизни.

[Arkadich]

On social networks, Israeli reservists complain about poor food and equipment supplies.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Apparently they “woke up” badly. I understand this girl’s indignation, but the fact remains a fact.

[Rage66]

This girl looks more like a dancer in a strip club

[kill the fascist]

"Yes, there were people these days,
Not that the present tribe:
Bogatyrs are not you!" (c)
The meaning is clear, a cliché from Pen Dostan films - “just not on my shift.”

[bone1]

And what kind of “Israel’s borders” is she talking about?

[digger]

By the way, you can expect this from Netanyahu. He is obsessed with power and he is a Nazi and a murderer just like the Ukronazis. Rotten guy. So, for the sake of power, he will not sign up for such things.

[Prisoner]

While they were watching the pigeons, the tractor crawled. In this world, girl, everything is possible. Even things that are impossible in principle.

[seamen2]

*While they were watching the pigeons, the tractor crawled*.
where the infantry will not pass and the armored train will not rush through. .. "Maxim will crawl on his belly and nothing will happen to him* ..
Maxim Perepelitsa.

[Anton Yu]

The only one who benefits from this is Netanyahu

[voyaka uh]

I have a similar conspiracy theory.
Intelligence knew everything, but the top of military intelligence Aman are leftist saboteurs who want to overthrow the Netanyahu government by any means. “The failure of the army is a failure of the government and the prime minister personally.”
Therefore, they did not bring to the attention of the top army the observers’ reports about the danger of breaking through the border.
The girl is right.
At one time I also guarded and patrolled the border of Jordan in a jeep.
Already in the 90s there were a lot of electronics and observers there.
It was impossible to prepare a massive invasion.

[Reader_lover]

Are they really such cannibals that they would gain power at such a monstrous price? It used to seem to me that, under any leadership, Israel valued the life of even one citizen extremely highly. And yet, even if there was a conspiracy, there was no one among the border guards who would go with the information above?

[-Paul-]

...among the border guards there was no one who would go with the information above?

There weren’t even those who wanted to live?! Everyone cannot be participants in the conspiracy; the lower level would obviously not be in the know, and even if they did not start signaling to the top, at least they would start shooting back. And they were taken lukewarm, so they simply slept brazenly and shamelessly at their post, which, however, does not cancel the conspiracy theory.

[Nemchinov Vl]

Quote: voyaka uh

It was impossible to prepare a massive invasion.

until February 2022, those who previously served near Gostomel also thought so...!!!
now, “our own Gostomel” happened on Israeli soil...

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Vl Nemchinov

until February 2022, those who previously served near Gostomel also thought so...!!!
now, “our own Gostomel” happened on Israeli soil...

The notorious human factor. I remember Biden called the time frame for the invasion of Ukraine a couple of days earlier than the start of the Northern Military District, and we laughed at him.

[opposite28]

IDF reserve sergeant (name given - Elena):

We looked at the monitor for 4 hours and saw everything that was happening there. It was impossible to even look away. And there are 400 of them. Listen, I was woken up at night when a pigeon was noticed, when a stork approached the fence, almost when a cockroach ran under the fence. And here, it turns out, they calmly overcame everything with the help of tractors? And it turns out that none of the 400 people noticed this? Yes, I’m telling you: not even a dove will fly up unnoticed.

It’s strange that there’s not a word about Israeli-Jewish geese. And then there are pigeons, storks, cockroaches and someone’s skeletons in the closets... It’s also strange that the Palestinians didn’t get to their Western Wall...

[Strannik96]

Quote from alexoff

Today, 19: 09
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On social networks of reservists

These are the sons of Ham, and the Jews are the sons of Shem according to the Bible

[Strannik96]

Quote from alexoff

Fraternal Semitic peoples kill each other for the amusement of the Slavs

These are the sons of Ham, and the Jews are the sons of Shem according to the Bible

[Mikhail3]

Girl... Both your bosses and the Palestinian ones are faced with a drop in income from the "war" you are waging there... into their pockets. And they organized a cheerful boil on your blood. On both sides, amicably, as usual. Now we need fried footage to outshine the video from Ukraine and return cash flows. There will be footage...

[6erJIblu]

They won’t let you take selfies or won’t donate???

[opuonmed]

either betrayal or a specialist was allowed to pass) Shas Israel bombs what it wants and as much as it wants))))

[Oleg Fedechkin]

The scribe has stepped on Palestine!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Bayun]

The aunt is 100% right. Lovers of national states should understand and accept that they are being fought against from INSIDE! This is not the 5th, but the 25th column at the highest level of national government. The global discourse about what is better, global districts or archaic national states, is entering a forceful “discussion.”

[vindigo]

ABOUT! They also got experts with expert opinions. Only here and in the USA are retirees from the senior com. composition. And in Israel they have female sergeants.

[Tatiana K]

There is an interesting book on this topic - “The setting is South Lebanon”, author M. Mikhailov. An opportunity to get acquainted “live” with all the circumstances and details of this conflict.

[Horon]

When the West prepared dill and unleashed any meanness on them against Russia, when it showed with their help how you can inflict damage even on a modern army using devices at the level of high-tech children's toys, how you can inflict damage on the enemy using the regular Internet, apparently he thought that these methods would be used only against Russia and will never leave the territory of the former USSR, but alas. The whole world saw in these methods not only a threat to the second army, but also ways to deal with all other armies. The West has opened a Pandora's box, including for itself and its allies. The first army of the Middle East is being beaten by essentially partisan units with methods and weapons that were directed by the West against Russia, and now they are destroying a state that is actually a shadow ally of the West.

[velikoros-xnumx]

according to one of which, Israeli intelligence “knew everything perfectly well, but the Netanyahu government decided to take advantage of the moment

There is nothing new under the sun. Pearl Harbor, or "September 11" of Israeli bottling.
But in my opinion it’s too cynical, even for Jews. With so many victims. If there had been an urgent need to close the “Palestinian issue,” knowing Israel’s capabilities, things would have been done differently. It did not require so many victims of its population to create a good reason.

[Fangaro]

Quote: Mikhail-Ivanov

Experts have already sorted this out today. They didn’t have a war, but persecution of the Palestinians with an overwhelming advantage in people and equipment. And now we stumbled upon reality and everything did not go according to plan...
By the way, we had an expert from Israel here, where is he?)

Are you talking about Aron Zaavi? So he doesn't seem to be an expert. And he didn’t write particularly against our actions. If only, once you started, then you need to quickly and continue, and not calve.
The Israelis have recently, you are right, not so much a war as a special operation. But once upon a time they fought for freedom and independence. And we. And many states. And many also fought for the expansion of their borders and the security of the middle kingdom.

[Hariton laptev]

Yesterday I was downvoted for only one version that this conflict could be an Israeli provocation.

[Nord11]

The whole point is that Jews, even though they are kosher, eat too much and end up overindulging. Believing in the inaccessibility of structures on the border and in the watchful eye of intelligence, they became fat and lazy. And carefree...

[tolmachiev51]

The Iron Dome is full of holes in all directions!!! What will Yasha Kedmi tell us from the Jewish booth from Solovyov.....

[Oleg Apushkin]

The Pepsi generation has grown up, and the result is obvious, and the girl is incredibly lucky; if she were in the service now, she wouldn’t be singing such songs - if only she could.

[dementor873]

Quote: belovvladimir

Didn’t see, didn’t look, etc. it all comes down to an agreement, the United States throws off like an unnecessary cargo called Israel, give 3,8 billion free of charge to Israel every year, and give it to Ukraine too, where there is a 100% black hole, there Zee is already a billionaire soon it will be, and everything will be thanks to the people’s blood that people shed for the interests of the United States and Zelensky, these are the kind of guys they are, business and nothing personal!

They have a military budget of about 800 billion, this is dust and not money. They cut more in the lowlands.

[lukash66]

This Israeli mania for recruiting girls into soldiers, and even into combat units, simply causes misunderstanding. And then they cry into their vest. Of course, they wag their butts very beautifully in Tik Tok, but their value in battle is questionable.

[Demon]

While we were noticing the pigeons, tractors rolled up unnoticed)

[blackcat]

Ordinary people are always used as bargaining chips in various political combinations and with different results for their lives and safety, the cynicism of those in power is off the charts and becomes obvious very after the fact, when the next documents are declassified, this has happened more than once and will happen more than once again, and the reaction to the facts that have come to light that have become history it's nothing...

[Stenolaz]

If the girl is telling the truth, then there is betrayal.

[Mikhail Maslov]

A conspiracy against one’s own people is complete nonsense. Everything is much simpler. “Hamas” was armed and trained by specialists who have combat experience and know all the weaknesses of the enemy (and this is not the merit of “Hamas”). The preparation was very serious. The attack is the same at the level of Israel Like the rest of the West, I expected an attack by “militants in flip-flops” and this is a major strategic mistake. But the militants came with good organization, reconnaissance, UAVs and electronic warfare. And all this was coordinated in real time. A lesson not only for Israel, but also for the “sleepy” EU.

[Brother Ibota]

It doesn't matter now. In any case, terrorists will leave no stone unturned.
But everything depends on each person!
If you didn’t do bad things, you wouldn’t get bad results. And no one could force them to do this.
There were tens of thousands of people willing, but hundreds of thousands would suffer! That's where the truth is