Prospects for the Ukrainian Armed Forces' winter offensive

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Prospects for the Ukrainian Armed Forces' winter offensive


Time is running out


Mark Milley a month ago gave the Ukrainian army only 30-45 days until the end of the offensive. In the Ukrainian segment, real hysteria began about this.



We remembered a lot. And the fact that the Ukrainian Armed Forces allegedly recaptured Kherson at sunset last fall. Of course, not a word about the almost voluntary withdrawal of the Russian Army from the right bank of the Dnieper. We remembered Artemovsk, the decisive battles for which took place just last winter. Commentators in Ukraine explain the marking of time since the fall of 2022 simply - there was not enough equipment and weapons. The Ukrainian Armed Forces soldiers are so brave that they don’t care about muddy soils or frosts. The further the commentator is from the front line, the more bravura his speech about continuing the offensive in winter sounds.

The chief of military intelligence, Budanov, both in Washington and in Kyiv, repeated something like this:

“Did winter stop the fighting last year? No, that's not true. Why do you think this will happen this year? The fighting will continue. The offensive operation will also continue.”

This is rather bad news for ordinary soldiers of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, which is also confirmed by the NATO command.

On August 15, a meeting of high command took place, in which Zaluzhny, British Chief of Defense Staff Anthony Radakin and the Commander-in-Chief of NATO Armed Forces in Europe, American General Christopher Cavoli, took part. Later they announced a transformation of the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ tactics. In particular, a retreat from the offensive along the entire front line to targeted breakthroughs. The priority is the Zaporozhye Front, the direction to Tokmak.

Four months after the start of the failed nationalist offensive, interesting facts are emerging. From the very beginning, the Americans offered Kyiv to assemble a powerful strike fist and break through the defenses of the Russian Army in one place. But the Ukrainian Armed Forces thought differently and tried to repeat June 22, 1941, going on the offensive along the entire border.

Bandera's followers believed in many things. They believed that it would be possible to repeat the Kharkov disaster and the withdrawal of the Russian Army from Kherson. They believed that NATO equipment would become the energy source with which they would reach the Sea of ​​Azov and occupy Crimea. It cannot be said that the Ukrainian Armed Forces were so wrong that they abandoned the NATO plan (if this is even true).


In the spring and summer of 2023, the nationalists found themselves at a disadvantage. The army was forced to control several thousand kilometers of the border from Kherson to the Brest region of Belarus. At the same time, the Russian Army still has impressive offensive potential, especially if the nationalists leave gaps in their own defenses. Concentrate the Armed Forces of Ukraine in one place, the Russians will immediately attack the cluster, and also go on the offensive in exposed areas of the defense.

After the failure of the summer offensive campaign, we can state a deep crisis of strategic and operational management in both the Ukrainian Armed Forces and NATO. But this does not mean that the Kiev regime will not send its soldiers on the offensive in the coming winter.

Mark Milley, by the way, recently changed his shoes and added the following to his tirade about time running out:

“The Ukrainian Armed Forces are advancing very slowly and very purposefully, preserving manpower. I will say to all critics that there is still a lot of time until the weather remains suitable for combat operations, there are still many combat-ready forces. And the Ukrainians have absolutely no intention of stopping. They will go until the final goal is reached. Ukrainians have no intention of stopping hostilities in winter.”

Winter Is Coming


What did the Ukrainian Armed Forces come up with for the winter of 2022–2023?

First of all, with new offensive tactics. If earlier the attack was carried out according to the good old scheme with tanks, infantry fighting vehicles and abundant artillery support, now the first two points have left the chat. Armored vehicles have to be protected, and artillery must be concentrated on narrow sections of the front, where infantry units go on the attack. It is this fact that is presented by “analysts” in Ukraine as an undoubted trump card in the winter offensive.

Budanov suggests walking under the Sea of ​​Azov. Tanks, especially Abrams, will inevitably get stuck in muddy ground. Wheeled vehicles will not perform well either. In such conditions, a simple soldier will feel all the delights of a winter war.

Firstly, due to the slow progress (if it occurs at all), the Ukrainian Armed Forces will get extremely damaged fortifications and villages. First they will be ironed out by enemy artillery, and then by Russian artillery. In summer you can still spend the night in a ditch under the cover of greenery. In winter, the boys will either freeze to death or get wet through and through during the frequent thaw.

Secondly, as soon as stable snow cover appears, it will be very difficult to hide the movements of both personnel and equipment. Footprints in the snow and high contrast for thermal imagers are excellent for unmasking. The lack of foliage is a nice addition.

Thirdly, war in winter significantly reduces the time it takes to evacuate a wounded person to the rear. Even minor damage can be fatal in temperatures below freezing. To remove the “three hundredths”, more equipment is required, and in winter it is very vulnerable near the front. Incomparably more vulnerable than in summer. Don't forget about high humidity and unsanitary conditions in the off-season.

Fourthly, the hardships of winter could be partially offset by fighting in the city. You can hide from the wind and from the enemy. But in Zaporozhye there is a steppe and sparse forests, so it will be cold, hungry and painful.

In general, Budanov, before talking about the winter offensive, should literally plunge into the atmosphere of the winter war himself.

There is a high probability that in winter the Ukrainians will try to follow NATO’s advice and concentrate their strike force to break through to Tokmak. The logic is as follows.

In the thoughts of the theoreticians of the Ukrainian General Staff, the Russian Army, as expected, will not strive for major offensive operations in the coming winter. For the reasons described above. This means that the most combat-ready units can be removed from the northern front of the front and transferred to the south. Where to launch assaults in several waves. Several villages can definitely be captured in this way. Of course, with a corresponding level of losses in manpower.


The main question is: why does the Kyiv regime need a winter offensive?

The weak-minded do not sit in the military leadership, no matter how much we want. There are quite pragmatic reasons for continuing the offensive, albeit creeping. First of all, this is a hyped Russian military machine.

Time is now on Moscow’s side and the army has begun to quickly adapt to the realities of the special operation. There are many examples. These are also new versions of the long-range Lancet, which has already managed to hit a Ukrainian MiG at an airfield several tens of kilometers from the front. These include gliding bombs, in particular the FAB-1500, which have proven themselves in the depths of defense.

Russia is gradually leveling out its lack of dominance in the skies, albeit through asymmetrical methods. The pace of technical progress of the Russian Army is noticeably higher than the Ukrainian one, so it is vital for the Armed Forces of Ukraine to keep the initiative. Do not allow the opponent to dig in, build fortifications, or increase their military presence.

The second reason why Kyiv will continue to advance is the changing opinion of the West. In Europe, individuals with a complex attitude towards Ukraine are already coming to power, and in general they managed to quarrel with the Poles at the highest level.

By the way, story Duda’s love and hatred with Zelensky shows very well how zealous support for Ukraine can turn into indifference. Such gentlemen require victories on the battlefield, and for this all means are good. Albeit a sluggish winter offensive.

The domestic public is also experiencing military failures. But it so happened that the Kiev regime has learned to fight off the “electorate” with very cheap bones. Unpleasant, but not critical injections drones in Moscow or the last landing on the Crimean coast.

The Ukrainian mosquito fleet has been reduced to several ATVs, but the media effect is guaranteed. In the complete absence of military significance, the sorties.

This suggests one thing – the consumers of such information noise are exalted young Ukrainians with a complete lack of critical thinking. These are exactly the kind Zelensky and Zaluzhny will send on the winter offensive against Tokmak.
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  1. +5
    7 October 2023 04: 05
    The Ukrainian mosquito fleet has been reduced to several ATVs,
    There are also hoverboards.)))))
    1. +8
      7 October 2023 04: 29
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      there are also hoverboards

      Turkey is still building warships for the Ukrainian Armed Forces... it is unclear where they will be based after construction.
      So let’s see if the LBS configuration will resemble 1943. what
      The weather there, of course, is disgusting for war at this time.
      Dampness, slush, dirt, cold, bad weather, endless shelling, you lie up to your neck in freezing water, sometimes you dive into it headlong to survive... brrr... this is not Hollywood.
    2. +4
      7 October 2023 08: 37
      Water skiing). Shushpanzplots). AND FOAM.
      1. +1
        7 October 2023 16: 09
        Inflatable mattresses, saved vests.. Circles..
    3. +3
      7 October 2023 09: 15
      It's all strange. During the Great Patriotic War, offensives and counter-offensives as part of mechanized divisions were carried out practically all year round. What has changed?
      1. +6
        7 October 2023 09: 45
        There were no quadcopters then; today it is impossible to unnoticedly deploy at the line of attack, as well as concentrate artillery divisions and triple the barrage of fire to suppress the first line of defense. For the same reasons, engineering support cannot be provided either. In short, there is no surprise of a strike by large forces, in fact, a completely different war today, similar to WWII in the sense that both sides are not able to outplay each other, every step is revealed, easily calculated and stopped. Superiority in firepower matters at this time am Russia is trying to significantly surpass the Ukrainian Armed Forces in firepower, and this is not only specific artillery, but new weapons such as UAVs, involve full-fledged aviation and actively use tanks, and increase the effectiveness of fire with the help of precision-guided ammunition.
        When we achieve this, front breakthroughs will appear.
        1. +1
          8 October 2023 10: 42
          There were no drones, but there was no less effective aerial reconnaissance.
      2. -1
        7 October 2023 16: 36
        Do we remember the losses during the database in WWII? Do we really want to pay that price for taking something?
      3. 0
        7 October 2023 23: 42
        Quote: Foundling
        It's all strange. During the Great Patriotic War, offensives and counter-offensives as part of mechanized divisions were carried out practically all year round. What has changed?

        Exactly! The great ones will not let you lie!

        - Is it okay, Georgy?
        - Great, Konstantin!
  2. +3
    7 October 2023 04: 28
    Still, for now they are on jet skis (-:
    Text and all that
  3. +6
    7 October 2023 04: 29
    Will ours attack? Kherson seems to be ours according to our legal laws.
    1. +2
      7 October 2023 04: 59
      While the Armed Forces of Ukraine are killing themselves against the defense of the Russian Armed Forces, an offensive is only possible to disrupt the transfer of reserves from one sector of the front to another.
      Weapons will continue to be supplied to Ukrainians as long as they pick them up. And as soon as entire units flee from the front line, the RF Armed Forces will go on the offensive.
      1. +4
        7 October 2023 06: 14
        no one has a vision of what to capture? options from the suburbs of Donetsk to Odessa Lvov?... everyone voices their own... impromptu on the spot ..
        and what next?... this is not Chechnya with 3 million, which was showered with dough - such a victory for now with money.
        with Ukraine, if they are such frostbitten ISIS members, it will be a bottomless hole.
        1. +3
          7 October 2023 08: 35
          All power to the Soviets!

          Quote from Sadam2
          this is not Chechnya with 3 million that was showered with dough

          Chechnya is not in first place on this list of subsidies. Dagestan receives twice as much.



          Why do you focus our attention on her, and not on those who receive significantly more subsidies than her? Deliberately or out of ignorance?

          Natural resources on planet Earth are not evenly distributed. Citizens of Russia have the right to use income from their sales, regardless of their place of residence.

          As an example of the Western approach to this issue: the United States forcibly seized oil rigs from Syria and does not care about Syrian citizens. In my opinion, our approach is more fair.

          ps
          "Odessa is a Russian city and a little bit Jewish."

          .
          1. +1
            8 October 2023 11: 52
            Quote: Boris55
            Chechnya is not in first place on this list of subsidies. Dagestan receives twice as much.

            In Dagestan the population is twice as large.
      2. +6
        7 October 2023 08: 15
        Quote: Danila Rastorguev
        as soon as entire units flee from the front line, the RF Armed Forces will go on the offensive

        That is, our offensive depends on whether the Ukrainians themselves flee from the front?
        What if they don’t run?
        1. +3
          7 October 2023 15: 09
          That is, our offensive depends on whether the Ukrainians themselves flee from the front?
          What if they don’t run?


          If the supplies provide a powerful barrage of fire at least 5 km wide, with simultaneous suppression of long-range high-ear artillery, then it doesn’t matter whether they want to run or lie down. It all depends on the power of the fire. Example: “Bagration” - a day of fire in waves over a large width and depth. The issue is decided by the country's economy.
    2. +2
      7 October 2023 06: 46
      Quote: Mekey Iptyshev
      Will ours attack? Kherson seems to be ours according to our legal laws.

      The author sarcastically wrote about this:

      . In the thoughts of the theorists of the Ukrainian General Staff, the Russian Army is expected will not be strive for major offensive operations in the coming winter.

      Well, is it really different?
  4. +3
    7 October 2023 05: 01
    Mosquito fleet on ATVs? And what about mosquito motorized riflemen on jet skis?
  5. +2
    7 October 2023 05: 10
    The Armed Forces of Ukraine will get extremely destroyed fortifications and villages. First they will be ironed out by enemy artillery, and then by Russian artillery.
    What a syllable. Anyone who doesn’t know the topic won’t understand anything.
  6. -1
    7 October 2023 05: 44
    Any stop in the offensive of the Ukrainian Armed Forces or pressure on the front line on the Russian Armed Forces is the death of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and Ukraine. It is also not beneficial for us to stop putting pressure on the Armed Forces of Ukraine. We need operations like "Uran", "Kutuzov", "Bagration" like in WWII and as quickly as possible. Otherwise, Europe will have time to set its industry on a war footing. Everyone has probably already realized that we are at war with NATO and the war is slowly turning into the Great Patriotic War 2.0. soldier
    1. +1
      7 October 2023 06: 31
      Can you imagine the number of personnel and everything needed to carry out such operations in the current situation?
      1. 0
        7 October 2023 06: 53
        So what to do? Are you suggesting we give up? Then, too, (WWII) they were racking their brains about what to do, but they found personnel and equipment. soldier
        1. -1
          8 October 2023 09: 04
          trench warfare until a truce is signed for several years
  7. +2
    7 October 2023 05: 54
    offered Kyiv to assemble a powerful strike fist

    I wonder who, with modern means of reconnaissance and destruction, would let them collect it? The striped generals seem to have completely fallen out of reality - Russia is not Iraq and Afghanistan for you..
  8. -1
    7 October 2023 06: 19
    Budanov: The offensive operation will also continue
    But what about the fact that the reserves already planned to consolidate success after the breakthrough of the Russian defense were thrown into battle and systematically destroyed before reaching the first line of defense? Recruit new ones, why feel sorry for your people when the political face of the West, led by the United States, is at stake.
    1. +2
      7 October 2023 06: 57
      And at this time, Russian troops began to move:
  9. +1
    7 October 2023 06: 25
    "The water is dark in the clouds"
    War is a continuation of politics, and politics is such that it is not clear who is for whom.....

    Pushkin was right:
    "Graze peaceful peoples...
    .. They need to be cut or trimmed"
    So we see one thing or another alternately.....and everyone is for everything good and everyone wants peace.
  10. +4
    7 October 2023 06: 27
    That's right, Tokmak is a railway, there is some kind of strategy. Last year’s Kharkov was not a disaster, but a race..... lack of understanding of the enemy’s capabilities (this is also what Ukrainians ran into this year). Great respect for the military on the front line, with disgusting media and ideological support, they really work (the enemy is not weak at all!!). What the Russian Federation should focus on now is the protection of the railway and attacks on the energy sector of Ukraine. - According to reviews, they are poorly preparing the heating season, they need to take advantage of this, further raising the dissatisfaction of the residents of Ukraine with the leadership.
  11. +2
    7 October 2023 06: 27
    Prospects for the Ukrainian Armed Forces' winter offensive
    The prospects are excellent. The rake dance will continue. fool In winter, the Russian Armed Forces have difficulties with mining.... feel And the Ukrainian Armed Forces will trample on the Abrams. feel
  12. +7
    7 October 2023 06: 56
    . Prospects for the Ukrainian Armed Forces' winter offensive

    Why not discuss the prospects for an offensive by the Russian army? It's much more interesting.
    1. +1
      7 October 2023 09: 17
      If it happens, it will be extremely sudden, on the one hand, the Ukrainians now do not have a Maginot Line, but taking into account urbanization, now any offensive (especially an obvious one) is an extremely difficult and costly undertaking. I think that with real success with small losses it is possible only like 24.02:
  13. +3
    7 October 2023 07: 11
    I don’t think that there are idiots in NATO and will send the Armed Forces of Ukraine on an offensive in the white snow and even in the bitter cold. All this talk about the winter offensive is more like misinformation. The Armed Forces of Ukraine will most likely switch to strategic defense, but Transcaucasia will be completely set on fire. It’s not for nothing that Pashinyan was put there. Russia's second front will be oh so difficult to pull off.
    1. +2
      7 October 2023 08: 44
      In the mountains in winter? Unlikely. And who is against whom? The Armenians will not attack Azerov. Why bother now - if you tolerated it before. They really assessed their prospects. We'll have to learn to live in peace. Pashinyan may be dealt with, but nothing more.
    2. +2
      7 October 2023 11: 07
      That year, our strategists threw the Marines under fire in an offensive in the white snow
      Because we have either idiots or traitors on our General Staff. This is what's scary.
    3. 0
      8 October 2023 09: 06
      Russia will not participate in Transcaucasia, let them figure it out themselves
  14. +2
    7 October 2023 07: 17
    So far, there is a war of economies. The fighting has not entered the political phase. Everywhere it is discussed how much money has been spent. When there is a real war, the economy fades into the background.
    1. +2
      7 October 2023 08: 07
      Quote: Nikolay Malyugin
      When there is a real war, the economy fades into the background

      Comrade Stalin said that without the rear there is no victory. It is no coincidence that the slogan was born at the same time: Everything for the front, everything for victory. Everyone knew that victory was forged in the rear.

      I’m wondering how relevant this slogan is now? Is everything being done for the front and for victory?
  15. -1
    7 October 2023 08: 03
    Ukraine's mosquito fleet has been reduced to several ATVs
    What about electric scooters? There are so many more of them!!!
  16. -3
    7 October 2023 08: 26
    Dill, if you want victory, then you will have to turn around and go to Kyiv and Lviv together with the Russians. Then maybe something called Ukraine will be able to remain on the maps. We didn't think about this option. In vain.
    1. 0
      7 October 2023 08: 41
      But one Azerbaijani would-be analyst Shabanov suggests they get out of nightclubs and start fighting for real, not forgetting to declare war on Russia. The Ukrainian people probably don’t know who to listen to anymore.
      1. -1
        7 October 2023 17: 38
        They don't even listen to Uncle Joe? Difficulties of translating English into Banderlog
  17. +3
    7 October 2023 09: 20
    In my opinion, such articles, based on statements in the media by Ukrainian officials and references to Western media, cannot quite qualify as analytical. We need to analyze, first of all, our capabilities, using our sources, various, from official to conversations, conditionally, in the kitchen, of direct participants. And only adding information to the statistics, data from overseas.
  18. -2
    7 October 2023 11: 05
    Do not underestimate the enemy.
    And don’t forget that the Kremlin and Frunze Street are full of rats. Therefore, in winter anything can happen
  19. -2
    7 October 2023 11: 35
    The situation began to change in our favor. And here it played a big role that all the warring parties on our side were connected to a common command. It's a pity that this doesn't happen in economics. It is in this interval that the main discord occurs. Small and medium-sized businesses can still develop independently. But large businesses must obey the demands of the time.
  20. -4
    7 October 2023 12: 49
    Most likely there will be no offensive. According to all information, Bandera’s followers will soon end. The only salvation is new negotiations or a new Minsk. This is where our people’s patience may burst. And in the elections something unexpected will happen.
  21. 0
    7 October 2023 15: 48
    Quote from Sadam2
    no one has a vision of what to capture? options from the suburbs of Donetsk to Odessa Lvov?... everyone voices their own... impromptu on the spot ..
    and what next?... this is not Chechnya with 3 million, which was showered with dough - such a victory for now with money.
    with Ukraine, if they are such frostbitten ISIS members, it will be a bottomless hole.

    We are doomed to go to the shores of the Dnieper and the Black Sea.
    1. 0
      7 October 2023 19: 26
      Blue dream. And mine too. But, it is achievable if: there are 150-200 thousand reserves with normal weapons; if, in the process of a strategic breakthrough, it is possible to encircle and eliminate a large enemy group and thus make a huge hole in the LBS. Then a lot is possible.
  22. BAI
    +4
    7 October 2023 18: 47
    The Ukrainian mosquito fleet has been reduced to several ATVs, but the media effect is guaranteed. Given the complete senselessness of the military significance of the foray.

    But they kicked the Black Sea Fleet out of Sevastopol
  23. 0
    7 October 2023 22: 23
    Well, in general, as in the 1943th century, we fight in the summer, and crawl into apartments to stay in winter. Interestingly, winter did not prevent the Red Army from advancing, and the Wehrmacht advanced quite well in Ukraine in February and March 70. Of course, the technical level was different then. If there is mud, mud, continuous thaws, which is most likely, then there will be considerable problems with movement, but if it freezes, then XNUMX-ton Abrams can quite quickly gallop along frozen soils.
    And the lack of “greenery” is fully compensated for by camouflage nets and appropriate painting of equipment. Well, the only thing is thermal imagers. Although they perfectly detect thermal anomalies in summer in temperate climates, these are not the Arabian deserts or Afghanistan with hot mountain slopes.
    1. 0
      8 October 2023 00: 48
      The thermal imager also perfectly detects negative contrast.
  24. 0
    8 October 2023 23: 23
    “Counter-attack” for the Ukrainian Armed Forces now is a psychological technique designed to delay our offensive as much as possible and tie up the maximum number of our resources with the need to build a defense. Through this, Ukraine hopes to receive sufficient reserves of Western weapons and supplies, and generally speaking they hope that time itself and the expenses that have occurred will little by little draw the West deeper into the conflict. I can’t say that this is a mediocre strategy - given their resources, all their strategies in one way or another must take into account tying up our forces and inspiring uncertainty hand in hand with readiness.