Isn’t it time to ask the Ministry of Finance and the Central Bank why the ruble is again not in the know?

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Isn’t it time to ask the Ministry of Finance and the Central Bank why the ruble is again not in the know?


If you need a reason, then this is the reason


Measures taken mainly by the Bank of Russia to stabilize the situation with currencies slowed down the depreciation of the ruble, but only for a while. If in August exceeding the mark of 100 rubles per dollar was no more than a test, now everything may drag on for a long time.



And the point is not at all that regulators have too few dollars and euros to protect the ruble. More important is the strange interest of too many in ensuring that the ruble at least remains fairly weak. And above all, in order to make ends meet when creating a budget.

It was drawn up by the government with a completely tolerable deficit of 1,6 trillion rubles, which could be covered solely by the growth of oil and gas revenues. But by all indications, since there is no urgent need for this, no one will achieve this.

Moreover, the long-term practice of the Central Bank under its current leadership convinces decision-makers not to worry too much about the fact that a weak ruble works against investment. But to an even greater extent, he is against at least the relative well-being of the general public.

In the near future (not the most, but nevertheless), the delayed effect of rising prices is almost inevitable. And in a situation with an exchange rate of 100 rubles per dollar, the psychological effect is, of course, more important, and it seems that only this effect forces the Central Bank to take at least some measures.

However, the public somehow survived a hundred for a euro, and, one might say, they were already prepared for a hundred for a dollar. Against this background, it is surprising when, in search of the reasons for the fall of the ruble, experts even started talking about the fact that the share of the Russian currency in international payments has increased.

In response to this, the ruble should have simply taken off, but here, please, as one of the experts said: “the authorities were not ready for this and now cannot decide how to regulate the ruble in such conditions.”

Isn't there such a thing as too much extra money?


Not long ago, we all heard the president’s words about the need to “clearly understand the reasons” for the weakening of the ruble and “make appropriate decisions in a timely manner, without delay.” The Bank of Russia accepts it. But somehow it doesn’t help, because banking technology is poorly supported financially.


In response to justified criticism, the Central Bank regularly states that the fact that there are too many rubles in circulation plays against the ruble exchange rate. However, what kind of rubles are prohibitively expensive not at the exchange rate, but at the credit rate? And this seems to be supposed to help the national currency strengthen.

While complaining about today's exchange rates, one should not forget, however, that currencies approached them a month and a half ago. And all (or rather, almost all) the fall in the ruble exchange rate was directly related to the deterioration of the foreign trade balance.

But since the weak ruble in this situation played the role of a rescuer, and turned out to be beneficial for both exporters and the federal treasury, no one even tried to save it. Until the psychological mark of “100” appears on the horizon, let our theses be challenged as much as necessary in the Central Bank and the Ministry of Finance.

Let them answer our direct questions better. Yes, the weakening of the ruble is primarily due to fundamental factors. The current account balance has not improved much, although the oil market has improved.

The Central Bank, without advertising it too much, carries out its changes precisely through the weakening of the exchange rate. Nevertheless, with a certain consensus on exchange control between the financial authorities and exporters and monetary authorities, the ruble could even be reversed.

However, instead of currency agreements, it was decided to simply close the gates to the export of gasoline and diesel. Well, prices at gas stations will definitely not increase after this - sales are needed, but no matter how long it takes until the refinery’s turnover decreases, it’s not far from a fuel crisis. After it, there will be nothing to export at all, and the ruble, right according to Andrei Kostin (remember, the head of VTB), will definitely jump to 150 at the exchange rate.

Pay taxes and... let go of the ruble


Today, experts vying with each other to remind that September hopes for a strengthening of the ruble were associated with the tax period and the resulting increase in demand for the national currency. However, by all indications, taxpayers managed to replenish the treasury without a significant drain on foreign exchange reserves.

This is what the Central Bank and the Ministry of Finance were most likely counting on. But no matter how hard we try, we can’t say anything good about our regulators and financiers on this matter. They openly became interested in theoretical debates about how to combat inflation and rising exchange rates in the face of declining earnings of that very currency.


At the same time, any control over what was happening with the ruble money supply, judging by what happened at the turn of September and October, that is, the third and fourth quarters, was clearly lost. And the most dangerous thing is that the process of rolling back the ruble has not even stopped.

Or does it just seem so, and everything is under control of the Central Bank and the Ministry of Finance, as before?

However, when two monetary departments cannot even agree on how much foreign exchange earnings to buy from exporters, it becomes simply alarming for their currency.

Even taking into account the fact that the Russian ruble, along with the euro and dollars, is currently doing well abroad. And as an illustration, not only what was written above, but also the Indian example is quite sufficient.

Speak louder, you can't be heard


It is difficult to judge yet how much ruble exports prevent the ruble from strengthening within Russia, but it is difficult to argue with the facts. The flight of capital is already taking on some kind of pathological character.

Without direct intervention from regulators, maintaining the ruble exchange rate even at current levels will not be easy. The situation is aggravated by quite frank hints from exporters and bankers that they are not afraid of any devaluation. More precisely, it’s simply profitable, even very profitable.

Many people also say that a weak ruble is beneficial for the treasury, although not so loudly. Clearly outdated arguments against strengthening the currency in a country that is clearly focused on exporting everything that is possible, and often everything that is not, are also surfacing.
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  1. +19
    9 October 2023 04: 43
    Honestly, when I see the disgusting faces of these two statesmen, I want to spit at them.
    1. 0
      9 October 2023 05: 15
      prices at gas stations will definitely not increase after this
      But they are not growing: they settled at 75,20 for 95....And that with interruptions. But there is no 92 at all!
      1. +4
        9 October 2023 10: 04
        settled at 75,20 for 95

        in Samara AI95 - 54,5 rubles, AI92 - 51,5 rubles
        1. +1
          9 October 2023 10: 45
          Quote: Bledar
          in Samara

          And this is on Sakhalin....
          1. +1
            10 October 2023 11: 56
            Isn’t it time to ask the Ministry of Finance and the Central Bank why the ruble is again not in the know?
            At least ask around. You can’t influence this with anything other than overthrow, and that’s another story.
      2. 0
        14 October 2023 02: 58
        Uncle Lee (Vladimir). October 9, 2023 05:15. NEW -
        "...prices at gas stations will definitely not increase after this"

        But they are not growing: they settled at 75,20 for 95....And that with interruptions. But there is no 92 at all!

        Don't worry people. here, after Andrei Kostin (remember, the head of VTB), the socially concerned Anton Germanovich Siluanov again became “excited.”
        Minister of Finance of the Russian Federation
        bully . Don't feed us bread AGAIN they want to engage in PRIVATIZATION. am Guess what... and you prices - fuel... belay feel
    2. +2
      9 October 2023 05: 25
      Exactly said! Spit not in the eyebrow, but in the eye!
    3. +26
      9 October 2023 05: 31
      Quote from: FoBoss_VM
      Honestly, when I see the disgusting faces of these two statesmen, I want to spit at them.

      These “vile persons” are not a cause, but a consequence. After all, they didn’t come to power from the street. Someone appoints them, praises them and hangs them with medals. Can you tell me their last name? lol hi
    4. -8
      9 October 2023 07: 46
      Don’t oversimplify, individuals cannot decide such a fundamental issue on their own....
      While pouring out criticism, many civilians forget that there is a big war going on under unprecedented Western sanctions. At the same time, hoping that the weight will be good is somewhat naive.
      Now for the specifics of the question.
      Do you need rubles for your budget? Very, very short, however. Where can I get it?
      Either raise taxes, or through the sale of export proceeds, or print. Economists here said that an increase in the price of the dollar by one ruble gives the budget 150 billion rubles.
      The high dollar exchange rate limits dollar imports so that they buy only what is necessary, and not all nonsense, and also limits the export of capital purchased in rubles.
      But.....stability of the exchange rate is also necessary and the exchange rate affects inflation, although not directly proportionally.
      What to do? What to do!?
      Probably, we should strive to sell everything for export for rubles, so that they are truly provided with all the property of the Russian Federation. Buying and selling on the exchange should be as convenient and inexpensive as possible. This is like a 100 percent mandatory sale of foreign currency earnings. Already used and effectively.
      Second, remember Mr. Hjalmar Schacht.
      His bills, i.e. "industrial money", which can be used as working capital, but not for speculation and withdrawal of capital, greatly helped Germany in its time.
      I would like to read the opinions of real economists on these issues.
      Well, most importantly, we need a victory! In war conditions there will be no economic super development.
    5. +6
      9 October 2023 08: 13
      When I looked at the photo in the article, the first association was: Demons.
      Look, these are the faces of non-humans.
    6. +14
      9 October 2023 08: 24
      What is this? People are in their place. They do what they are instructed to do. You know who approves the head of the Central Bank? Most recently, her powers were extended. So, he copes. And whoever extended it should have asked, otherwise he was going for a new term. But I think that the country will not survive another term of his.
    7. +1
      10 October 2023 14: 12
      when I see the vile faces of these two statesmen


      You are funny, though. You are indignant, but only at the one with whom can.
      These are ordinary bureaucratic officials, they simply do what the politicians who appointed them tell them.

      А real politician in our country there is only one.
      And you won’t dare spit in his face. Yes, you’ll be afraid to even think about it, let alone write it.

      So continue to be angry at the switchmen, it’s not scary to scold them.
      1. 0
        10 October 2023 19: 53
        Quote from: dump22
        А real There is only one politician in our country.

        Two. Moreover, the second one also has his own small country, where he is the only real one.
        1. 0
          11 October 2023 14: 11
          Well, Ramzan is not exactly a politician (in the ancient Greek sense), he is more of a satrap (in the ancient Persian sense).
    8. 0
      10 October 2023 22: 35
      Well, who do you see instead of them? When you want to change something, you always have to think about what will happen next.
  2. +7
    9 October 2023 05: 41
    The problem is that we don’t live by our own wits, we all use some laws that were not invented by us, we climb into some international structures that we don’t need according to our mentality, we sell goods for beads like Indians or for candy wrappers like children.
    We can’t replace these managers with those who will work for us, for our ruble, for our well-being and not for a bunch of oligarchs.
    Why does the dollar stand still and the ruble fluctuate like the temperature of a feverish patient? Why not do the opposite? That our brilliant financiers have no intelligence? Or is it the rotten essence of international capitalism: the thirst to make money from the people, driving them into poverty. soldier
    1. -3
      9 October 2023 05: 54
      Quote: V.
      The problem is that we don’t live by our own wits, we all use some laws that were not invented by us, we climb into some international structures that we don’t need according to our mentality, we sell goods for beads like Indians or for candy wrappers like children.
      We can’t replace these managers with those who will work for us, for our ruble, for our well-being and not for a bunch of oligarchs.
      Why does the dollar stand still and the ruble fluctuate like the temperature of a feverish patient? Why not do the opposite? That our brilliant financiers have no intelligence? Or is it the rotten essence of international capitalism: the thirst to make money from the people, driving them into poverty. soldier

      Another stupid thing.
      A military defense force is coming to our country, and any military action costs money. Money must be taken from somewhere, so they are trying to ensure an influx of rubles without introducing a “war tax.” The solution is standard - a quasi-tax in the form of inflation. It's only the beginning.
      1. +12
        9 October 2023 06: 49
        Yes Yes... . “Another stupidity......there is a SVO in the country...”

        Dear Escariot (Escariot)
        I agree with you: SVO needs money. Can you tell me what it is?

        "...President Vladimir Putin softened the norms of foreign exchange control. By his decree, he allowed companies selling goods abroad within the framework of intergovernmental agreements to leave foreign currency earnings in the accounts of foreign banks. ...Under intergovernmental agreements, in particular, gas and oil are supplied to China via the Power of Siberia and to Turkey via the Blue Stream and Turkish Stream gas pipelines..."
        https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/6136118.

        “On June 21, a subcommittee of the Ministry of Finance allowed non-resource exporters to credit currency received from non-residents to their accounts in foreign banks without mandatory repatriation to accounts in Russia. Thus, only revenue received under foreign trade contracts for the supply of raw materials became subject to mandatory repatriation, Interfax wrote. Now this requirement has also been reset..." https://www.rbc.ru/economics/05/07/2022/62c4531b9a794782cf79868d

        If you carefully read the above links, you will understand that currency for the sale of both raw materials and non-raw materials from Russia will not be returned to our country.
        It turns out that military operations in the Northern Military District will continue at the expense of Russian citizens.
      2. -12
        9 October 2023 07: 06
        Smart Israeli, first figure it out in your own country, and then teach others. hi
      3. +11
        9 October 2023 07: 38
        Quote from Escariot
        Another stupid thing.
        A military defense force is coming to our country, and any military action costs money. Money must be taken from somewhere, so they are trying to ensure an influx of rubles without introducing a “war tax.” The solution is standard - a quasi-tax in the form of inflation.

        If you look at it from your “bell tower”, the conclusion suggests itself that our SVO has been going on since the beginning of the introduction of a “market” economy.
        I have already posted a selection of the ruble exchange rate, I will repeat:
        ruble exchange rate from 1992-2023:
        http://global-finances.ru/kurs-dollara-k-rublyu/?ysclid=lm2d0xy5xx62710034
        So who has our government been “at war” with for almost 30 years?
        Oh, sorry, I just haven’t watched TV for 10 years and I don’t know what the collective Skobeevs and Solovievs have nowlaughing
        We are now fighting the “West” by exporting raw materials and income from them to this very “West”. Apparently this is a new type of CPP? lol
        1. 0
          10 October 2023 22: 43
          Actually, it has always been like this. Oil and gas for export, including to the USSR. When I got married, my suit and shoes were Czech. And some boys raced in Czech Java. And Hungarian Ikaruses carried passengers around the city. And all this was mainly for oil and gas.
          1. -1
            12 October 2023 21: 58
            Quote: Alexey Lantukh
            Actually, it has always been like this. Oil and gas for export, including to the USSR. When I got married, my suit and shoes were Czech. And some boys raced in Czech Java. And Hungarian Ikaruses carried passengers around the city. And all this was mainly for oil and gas.

            Only all these goods were produced in a system controlled by the USSR and prices were controlled by the USSR. Now Russia, on the contrary, depends on someone else’s system.
            1. -1
              12 October 2023 22: 01
              Quote: ettore
              Quote: Alexey Lantukh
              Actually, it has always been like this. Oil and gas for export, including to the USSR. When I got married, my suit and shoes were Czech. And some boys raced in Czech Java. And Hungarian Ikaruses carried passengers around the city. And all this was mainly for oil and gas.

              OnlyAll these goods were produced in a system controlled by the USSR and prices were controlled by the USSR. Now Russia, on the contrary, depends on someone else’s system.

              my suit and shoes were Czech. And some boys drove in Czech Java

              Explain for those who do not understand - which of the things listed in the quote produced in the USSR. No need to talk about prices, I'm from there, I know Yes
              1. 0
                13 October 2023 19: 39
                Quote: Repellent
                Explain for those who do not understand - which of the things listed in the quote were produced in the USSR. No need to talk about prices, I'm from there, I know

                Let me explain. What is listed in the quotation was carried out in the countries of the socialist bloc that were members of the CMEA. And the USSR there determined industrial and economic policy on the principle of “international division of labor”, this term comes from there. Now, Russia does not even completely determine its economic policy itself.
    2. +5
      9 October 2023 08: 47
      what nonsense, is it really not smart enough to understand that this is not because they are fools and cannot manage the economy, but because they NEED it that way!!! it is beneficial for them to have such a course
      1. 0
        10 October 2023 14: 23
        Quote: Nastia Makarova
        What nonsense! Is it really not smart enough to understand that this is not because they are fools and cannot manage the economy, but because they NEED IT!!! It is beneficial for them to have such a course

        Dear Nastya! Such a course is not beneficial to them, but is beneficial when the entire economy is based on trade and banking speculation. It is then that it is profitable to have a cheap ruble and receive a hundred wooden ones for one dollar proceeds from the sale.
        This is for the economy of high-tech production and the production of various, necessary goods with added value, a strong currency is beneficial.
        Unfortunately, such a process requires considerable time, stable laws, explained in terms of the rationality and expediency of taxes. Unlike simple speculation: bought - welded - bought - welded...
        This is not what our economists and bankers do.
        There is such a film “Communist”. In one episode the following words are heard:
        Gentlemen capitalists understand very well that every technical success we have is a blow to capitalism. The struggle and sacrifices here, no matter how difficult they are, they, first of all, express the determination of the people to reach the goal at any cost. This means that the people believed in this goal, they believe in the party.

        Today they also understand that they will not be able to fool all the people all the time. That's why they're in a hurry. And you know very well who leads them:
        The longest noodles in the world were prepared by Moscow residents Vladimir Vladimirovich and Dmitry Anatolyevich.
  3. +2
    9 October 2023 05: 56
    The export of diesel has already been allowed, the authors are behind the times.
    1. KCA
      +3
      9 October 2023 06: 55
      As if with a limitation:
      "The government has lifted restrictions on the export of diesel fuel delivered to seaports by pipeline, provided that the manufacturer supplies at least 50% of the produced diesel fuel to the domestic market"
  4. +6
    9 October 2023 05: 58
    It’s strange. When 100 rubles per dollar, it scares us. And when 60 rubles, everything seems to be in order. There is a lot of money in the country. But the trouble is that one part of the population has too much of it. And the other majority has pocket consumption. One part will not suffer from inflation. And even think about the other scary.
  5. +8
    9 October 2023 06: 11
    Isn’t it time to ask the Ministry of Finance and the Central Bank why the ruble is again not in the know?


    Why ask them?
    In the last paragraph, the authors of the article point to the beneficiaries of the current ruble exchange rate - these are Russian exporters of “everything that is possible, and often that which is not possible.”
    To protect exports, the authorities keep the military-industrial complex “in good shape.” For this purpose, he is provided with preferential loans.
    Well, the rest of the economic sectors and the population - themselves, themselves, themselves...

    - self-employment
    - self-study (commercial education)
    - self-healing (commercial healthcare)
    - self-acquisition of housing (mortgage)
    - self-sufficiency in retirement (personal savings in old age)
    - self-defense" (territorial defense).
    And if the population is dissatisfied, the authorities will initiate “self-isolation”.
    1. -2
      12 October 2023 22: 09
      Quote: AA17
      yourself, yourself, yourself...

      Funny trolls come across on VO. Well, I remember you, see you Yes
  6. +5
    9 October 2023 06: 38
    Isn’t it time to ask the Ministry of Finance and the Central Bank why the ruble is again not in the know?
    Do you think they themselves know why? It seems that behind the abstruse words using foreign financial and economic terms lies complete hopelessness from not knowing what to do, and perhaps their own tactics are clearly not aimed at strengthening Russian financial independence.
  7. -4
    9 October 2023 07: 23
    It’s funny, of course, people here are inclined towards the financial bloc and the central bank... but in general I didn’t really believe in them in the event of a big mess, relying on the power bloc.
    It turned out that this is one of the few state structures that did not crap themselves at the beginning of the North Military District, unlike security forces of all stripes - from intelligence to the army.
    The same Nabiullina, since 14, regularly conducted stress tests on the banking sector and liquidated shady banks, which multiplied enormously in the 90s and XNUMXs - each organized crime group had its own bank.
    And all this was done so that in the event of sanctions, war, etc. there were no weak links or cracks through which capital would escape, or begin to speculate, or sell assets to foreigners. All this was stopped almost instantly. Because the system was already established. For example, the Ministry of Digital Development did something similar, conducting stress tests called “sovereign Internet.”
    By the way, in the first months of the Northern Military District the West attacked Russia, targeting the banking sector and the financial system as a whole. But here it is generally accepted that the West was confused, so for the first months it did not help Ukraine with weapons. In fact, the West believed that the first package of sanctions would be enough and everything would fall apart. But they were unpleasantly surprised. Fortunately, our security forces gave them a sedative and instilled optimism. Those who really didn’t prepare for the SVO, reporting to the top with fraudulent reports.

    PS Yes, our deposits have been frozen. But this primarily affects Western institutions, as a bastion of reliability. The same Arabs, Asians and others became very tense. Therefore, in the West they still do not risk confiscating this money - they are looking for legal reasons.
    In addition, it made little sense to inject this money into the Russian economy anyway - our economy, unfortunately, is not strong enough for huge revenues from the sale of resources to be safely injected, without the threat of hyperinflation and other negative factors. And our business would prefer to spend this money on the stock exchange rather than invest in long-term projects.
    Right now a lot of money is being allocated to the fighting - salaries, for injuries, etc. But all this leads to inflation, which is stopped, incl. increasing the refinancing rate. Which leads to a decrease in available credit and a slowdown in the economy. Well, what did you want? This is science. If you start dropping money from a helicopter, it means you need to keep it from someone so that inflation doesn’t ruin the country.

    In short, the last thing I would do is run into the so-called. the liberal bloc of the state, because they were the ones who kept the economy in check, financially. and the banking sector of the state from falling into a tailspin when sanctions rained down... but there are a lot of questions for the security forces, whom patriots love so much (and I relied on them too). First of all, to reconnaissance and counter-starship. There are no questions for the FSB - they were commercialized a long time ago. I didn’t count on them)
    1. +6
      9 October 2023 07: 40
      Controversial opinion about the liberal bloc of the state. First, they bring the country to the edge of a cliff, destroy industry, reduce the army, enrich themselves as best they can, and then try to save the country by saying how good we are, we are saving the country, but still do not forget about our personal profit. soldier
    2. +11
      9 October 2023 08: 51
      Quote: French Herald
      And all this was done so that in the event of sanctions, war, etc. there were no weak links or cracks through which capital could escape

      It would have been better if Nabiullina had liquidated the Central Bank; $300 billion would have been more valuable.
      Quote: French Herald
      Yes, our deposits were frozen. But this primarily affects Western institutions, as a bastion of reliability.

      This is primarily a blow to the domestic budget, which cannot use this money to finance the same SVO, and is forced to squeeze it out of you and me
      Quote: French Herald
      In addition, it made little sense to inject this money into the Russian economy anyway - our economy, unfortunately, is not strong enough for gigantic revenues from the sale of resources to be safely injected, without the threat of hyperinflation and other negative factors

      In this case, you are just another victim of this shameless lie that we have been fed with for decades.
      Quote: French Herald
      And our business would prefer to spend this money on the stock exchange rather than invest in long-term projects.

      I understand that our leadership still perceives business through the prism of the 90s, but why do you need this?
      Quote: French Herald
      Right now a lot of money is being allocated to the fighting - salaries, for injuries, etc. But all this leads to inflation, which is stopped, incl. increasing the refinancing rate

      Oh mein gott... We have a budget. It has income and expense parts. So the expenditure part was redistributed - part of the money was stopped being paid for some programs, and was redirected to wages for the fighting. That is, some people have more money, but others have less. The demand was and remains the same. Another thing is that the structure of demand has changed - housing prices have increased, for example, in a number of regions, but in general, the impact of such a redistribution of loans is minimal and certainly does not require regulation of the refinancing rate.
      Quote: French Herald
      Well, what did you want? This is science.

      Which you don't know. I’m telling you as a person with a classical economic education.
      Quote: French Herald
      In short, the last thing I would do is run into the so-called. the liberal bloc of the state, because they were the ones who kept the economy in check, financially. and the banking sector of the state from falling into a tailspin

      They did a really good job at the beginning of the CBO (totally failing to prepare for it). Alas, that's where their achievements ended.
    3. +2
      9 October 2023 09: 53
      As for sanctions, the bet was placed specifically on the financial system, or more precisely on payment systems. Payment systems are the nervous system of the economy, without them collapse, and instantaneous. I saw a figure somewhere that in February 2022, 70% of transactions among cards were Visa and MasterCard. The alternative is Tinkoff, but it is not particularly popular. Well, don’t forget Swift, which is everything to us.
      I remind you that after the start of the SVO, Visa and MasterCard ran away at the moment we were disconnected from Swift by pressing a button. That is, each of us could find ourselves in a situation where there is money in the bank account, but in fact you only have what is in your pocket in cash, and 70% of them are like you. Queues in banks for cash (this is if it is physically in the bins of the Central Bank), in short, chaos. We are returning to the last century, to the kingdom of cash, and FAST, a week maximum.
      Why didn't this happen? That’s right, because someone, I won’t point a finger, is concerned about the widespread implementation of their own, national, end-to-end payment card system, well, they also came up with something on the interbank market.
      1. +4
        9 October 2023 10: 19
        Quote: Not the fighter
        Why didn't this happen?

        Well, the NSPK has been developed this way since 2014. By the way, they took it up only after, after the return of Crimea, the visa with mastercard stopped working with cards from several banks in the international network, for which we thank them very much - ours at least began to itch. And if they had not done this, then today we would have received that same return to cash
        1. 0
          9 October 2023 11: 18
          Hello Andrey. Is it possible, for example, for the SVO or for another program, for example the construction of a bridge to Sakhalin, to simply print new money, without taking away or bleeding other socially significant programs? That is, money for a specific project. Will this be good or not? soldier
          1. +4
            9 October 2023 12: 00
            Quote: V.
            Is it possible, for example, for the SVO or for another program, for example the construction of a bridge to Sakhalin, to simply print new money, without taking away or bleeding other socially significant programs? That is, money for a specific project

            Yes, you can. We are now at the final stage in terms of providing funds - for 1 ruble of GDP there are 43 kopecks. money supply M2. In Europe this figure is approximately 1:1, in China - for 1 yuan of GDP there are 2 yuan of money.
            That is, in the Russian Federation there is simply not enough money supply to service the existing trade turnover, and money needs to be poured into circulation. The method of financing state programs with freshly printed money is quite good for this, there will be nuances (for example, it will not be possible to give this money to end consumers in the form of pensions), but directing such money to the branches of industry and science that we see as priorities for ourselves is quite an option. As well as financing, say, the same FRP for issuing cheap loans to industry for technological re-equipment hi
            1. -2
              10 October 2023 08: 05
              Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
              Quote: V.
              Is it possible, for example, for the SVO or for another program, for example the construction of a bridge to Sakhalin, to simply print new money, without taking away or bleeding other socially significant programs? That is, money for a specific project

              Yes, you can. We are now at the final stage in terms of providing funds - for 1 ruble of GDP there are 43 kopecks. money supply M2. In Europe this figure is approximately 1:1, in China - for 1 yuan of GDP there are 2 yuan of money.
              That is, in the Russian Federation there is simply not enough money supply to service the existing trade turnover, and money needs to be poured into circulation. The method of financing state programs with freshly printed money is quite good for this, there will be nuances (for example, it will not be possible to give this money to end consumers in the form of pensions), but directing such money to the branches of industry and science that we see as priorities for ourselves is quite an option. As well as financing, say, the same FRP for issuing cheap loans to industry for technological re-equipment hi

              Issuing cheap money for specific programs will only result in the corresponding corporations wasting this money. After all, we have a social state, so give people money in cash or reduce taxes if you have extra money, and don’t transfer it from the pockets of already poor oligarchs.
              1. +2
                10 October 2023 08: 42
                Quote from Escariot
                Issuing cheap money for specific programs will only result in the corresponding corporations wasting this money.

                At your leisure, familiarize yourself with the working methods of the same FRP. In short, you come and submit an application for a specific investment plan. You are being checked from all sides for a long, long time; one-dayers there cannot pass all sorts of such checks in principle. You will receive a loan only if you are an industrial enterprise, and a large one, and you really prove the existence of a viable project that requires new equipment and other investments. By the way, they will check not only you, but also your suppliers; there will be no place for any left-wing intermediaries.
                Next, your loans are approved. But no one will give you money - they give you the right to pay with these loans for the purchase of equipment and other agreed investments. But this is just the beginning.
                The fact is that you provide a plan to the FRP, and they begin to scrutinize you according to this plan. When did you receive the equipment, when did you install it, when did you launch it, when did you move to serial production, when did you reach the established production and sales volumes, and other indicators, for example, how many new jobs were opened.
                And if you do not fulfill your plan, the FRP may demand repayment of the loan at any time. And he will turn you inside out if you try to avoid returning, the state is not to be trifled with here.
  8. +1
    9 October 2023 07: 54
    It is written in such a way that it is as if the leadership of the Central Bank and the Ministry of Finance flew from Mars.
    1. +3
      9 October 2023 08: 24
      If Mars is the USA, then I agree!!!!
      The Russian Federation sells resources for candy wrappers, which are printed by enemies who supply weapons to the Hoch Lamas.
      P.S. The most amazing thing is that with the current digitalization, all these relationships between exchange rates and the trade balance are absolutely transparent, but why is digitalization not used here at all.... Here is such a digital genius, dear little bear...
      1. +1
        9 October 2023 09: 49
        If Mars is the USA, then I agree!!!!
        Do you think the leadership of the Central Bank and the Ministry of Finance of Russia was appointed by the US administration? If so, then what sovereignty of Russia can we talk about? Then, from your words, it turns out that the entire leadership of the country, right down to the deputies, are creatures of the US administration?
    2. -1
      9 October 2023 08: 26
      Exchange rates have always and everywhere been, are and will be associated with a total desire for unjustified enrichment, for example, one raised the price looking at him, the second and the third then raised the rest like an avalanche, although there might not have been any objective reasons (there could have been collusion), which is why there is a tax in all developed countries on excess profits, which restrains the appetites of entrepreneurs, and we have a linear taxation scale.
      1. -2
        9 October 2023 09: 14
        Therefore, in all developed countries there is a tax on excess profits, which restrains the appetites of entrepreneurs

        I wonder how this can work if many of our “entrepreneurs”, according to documents (!), “barely make ends meet”
      2. +3
        9 October 2023 10: 22
        Quote: agond
        Exchange rates have always and everywhere been, are and will be associated with a total desire for unjust enrichment

        (heavy sigh) Exchange rates have always and everywhere been linked to the trade balance. Simply put, if receipts are greater than expenses, then the currency becomes cheaper, if on the contrary, it becomes more expensive. We artificially limited this process by donating currency to the West, forming gigantic reserves that were not allowed into the country. In essence, an artificial currency shortage was created, which all free market apologists somehow forget about.
        1. -1
          9 October 2023 12: 34
          Exchange rates have always and everywhere been linked to the trade balance

          and with the speculation of banks... so you propose an additional issue of rubles for some national project, but in conditions of free purchase and withdrawal of currency, this will only be additional. kick for inflation - i.e. in the absence of currency control, it is useless to talk about any kind of economic growth, independence and prospects!
          1. +3
            9 October 2023 12: 57
            Quote: Vladimir80
            and with the speculation of banks... so you propose an additional issue of rubles for some national project, but in conditions of free purchase and withdrawal of currency, this will only be additional. kick for inflation

            It won't if you approach it wisely. Simply put, the infusion of money for new equipment must be secured by the currency (reserves) generated by the state. Then the emergence of effective demand for currency will not lead to any inflation or a fall in the ruble exchange rate.
            Quote: Vladimir80
            those. in the absence of currency control, it is useless to talk about any kind of economic growth, independence and prospects

            So Yes. Simply put, the course must be subject to state management, and correspond to the capabilities and needs of the state. Instead, we have attempts by the Central Bank to play from the market, using completely non-market methods (reserves of monstrous sizes).
            That is, if the Central Bank, in any case, uses non-market methods, can it do so for the benefit of the state?
            1. -1
              9 October 2023 13: 11
              That is, if the Central Bank, in any case, uses non-market methods, can it do so for the benefit of the state?

              and we again come to the question - who rules the Central Bank and what country gave us these “patriotic and brilliant” managers
  9. +1
    9 October 2023 08: 22
    - Let me find out what you can say about what you read. Sharikov shrugged. - Yes, I don’t agree. - With whom? With Engels or with Kautsky? “With both,” answered Sharikov. - This is wonderful, I swear to God. “Everyone who says that the other…” What could you offer for your part? - What is there to offer?.. And then they write, write... Congress, some Germans... My head is swelling. Take everything and divide it... “That’s what I thought,” exclaimed Philip Philipovich, slapping the tablecloth with his palm, “that’s exactly what I thought.” - Do you know the method? - Asked an interested Bormenthal. “What’s the method?” Sharikov explained, becoming talkative after vodka, “it’s not a tricky thing.” But what about this: one of them has settled in seven rooms and has forty pairs of pants, and the other wanders around, looking for food in trash bins. - About the seven rooms - of course, you are hinting at me? - Philip Philipovich asked, narrowing his eyes proudly. Sharikov shrank and remained silent. (c) Heart of a dog.
  10. +3
    9 October 2023 08: 44
    And in a situation with an exchange rate of 100 rubles per dollar, the psychological effect is, of course, more important, and it seems that only this effect forces the Central Bank to take at least some measures

    what is he forcing there???? The Central Bank itself made such a course because it is beneficial to them
    1. 0
      9 October 2023 09: 01
      It would be more correct not to tie the ruble exchange rate to the dollar or other foreign currency, but to tie it, for example, to 1 kWh, or 1 kg of grain, or to 1 kg of standard fuel, or to the cost of 1 hour of average labor, or to a set of items, that is, to real items that we produce ourselves
  11. +1
    9 October 2023 09: 25
    Measures taken mainly by the Bank of Russia to stabilize the situation with currencies slowed down the depreciation of the ruble, but only for a while. If in August exceeding the mark of 100 rubles per dollar was no more than a test, now everything may drag on for a long time.

    And the point is not at all that regulators have too few dollars and euros to protect the ruble. More important is the strange interest of too many in ensuring that the ruble at least remains fairly weak. And above all, in order to make ends meet when creating a budget.

    If so, what questions should you ask the Ministry of Finance and the Central Bank of the Russian Federation?
    In this case, questions to Mishustin and Putin.
    1. +1
      9 October 2023 12: 38
      some are looking after the LLC (financial directors), others are press secretaries, and the beneficiary is overseas...
  12. +5
    9 October 2023 09: 48
    We can still be proud of something. Russia is a country with the highest taxes for the poor.
  13. +1
    9 October 2023 10: 12
    The main task of the main bank should not be the exchange rate of the national sign, but its stability, which can only be ensured by state regulation. The essence of regulation is to establish a corridor for possible fluctuations in the exchange rate of the national sign and the rules of cross-border transactions. In addition, a stable banknote makes it possible to develop the economy. Otherwise, the so-called “manual” control, when prices and productive forces do not depend on each other, is becoming the norm and examples of this are through the roof - harvests are breaking records, oil and gas reserves and production are called the world’s gasoline pump, and prices are rising for both bread and gasoline , and for everything else. Inflation has long exceeded the planned 4% per annum, which indicates that the main bank’s “targeting” policy is flawed and what idiot would honestly invest in conditions of unpredictability and instability.
  14. 0
    9 October 2023 10: 41
    Are you sure they know? Find out who benefits from such a ruble and who made a lot of money...
  15. BAI
    +2
    9 October 2023 11: 23
    Well, there was a dollar for 1000. We survived. Then there were 8-10. It grew to 100. There will be 1000 again. And again the denomination. Everything is in circles, everything suits everyone
  16. +3
    9 October 2023 14: 10
    Quote: Nastia Makarova
    it is beneficial for them to have such a course

    You are mistaken!
    There their butts are cracking from tension.
    But they can’t do anything.

    Why did Kostin talk about banning/restricting the transfer of currency abroad by individuals a week or two ago?
    Why did the mustachioed purgon carrier Peskov bleat about the uselessness of the $ circulation?

    Because foreign exchange earnings to the state treasury have sharply decreased.

    And despite all the successes of import substitution (I say this absolutely without irony), the situation with the ruble exchange rate and prices is simply terrible.

    For example, our domestic bread (analogous to fiinnkrips) which cost 16 rubles, now costs 74 rubles!
    And the bloody Elvira Nabiulinna sings mantras about controlling inflation.
    Treats the cooling corpse by increasing the key interest rate.

    Yes, now it needs to be immediately increased by 15-17% so that people don’t rush to sign up for food.

    But the “best economists” who have settled into their posts will stand to the last.
    In order not to upset the master, they are ready to lie, dodge and pour abomination into the ears of our people.

    And when it gets really bad, one of them, Peskov for example, will admonish us, convince us that eating meat is harmful, and for a healthy diet there is nothing better than pasta.
    He will definitely be joined by the terry verbiage - Tolstoy, he will treat us with oak bark tincture, explaining to us that there is no better remedy for scurvy and hunger.
    1. 0
      9 October 2023 15: 06
      Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
      (heavy sigh) Exchange rates have always and everywhere been linked to the trade balance. Simply put, if receipts are greater than expenses, then the currency becomes cheaper, if on the contrary, it becomes more expensive. We artificially limited this process by donating currency to the West, forming gigantic reserves that were not allowed into the country. In essence, an artificial currency shortage was created, which all free market apologists somehow forget about.

      Speaking about the ruble exchange rate, we artificially compare the purchasing power of the ruble and the dollar, but for trading on stock exchanges this is correct, but if this is ordinary trading in stores, markets or calculating salaries, then looking at the dollar looks like a convenient excuse and then the purchasing power of the ruble or other currency can fall even if it is not convertible at all, if there is no mechanism to curb appetite, the price will be raised..
  17. -1
    9 October 2023 16: 28
    They found a gold mine and they don’t need to do anything, hold back the buck and that’s it. Wooden itself will fill the budget
  18. +1
    9 October 2023 17: 07
    Nabiullina, Chubais and other characters are not Martians or American saboteurs, but Putin’s closest and trusted employees. That's who you need to ask, but he put himself above questions. Apparently only future historians will give an honest assessment of his reign.
  19. -1
    9 October 2023 23: 00
    A spider has a brain the size of a poppy seed, which is enough for it to weave a web and catch a fly in it. The actions of the spider are an order of magnitude more complex than the actions of the leaders of our Central Bank and the Ministry of Finance. These two gentlemen have exactly two thoughts between them: fight inflation by raising rates, and filling the budget by weakening the ruble. They are not able to weave a web to catch a fly in it. Again, I will repeat other comments, these are Putin’s appointees V.V. and questions should be directed to him.
  20. 0
    9 October 2023 23: 10
    Didn’t the authors find photographs of other top officials of our country?
    President, Prime Minister, Minister of Defense, Head of the Investigative Committee...
    Or are there officials whose photographs, taken at an unfortunate moment for them, can be published, and there are government officials whose publication of unsuccessful photographs can lead to a quick punishment?
    I don't like inflation in our country. I don’t like the essentially Chinese car Moskvich. I don’t like the fact that there is no “your candidate” column on the ballots.
    But I don’t like the authors of articles on VO, who blame everything bad on those who were appointed to do the work, even more.
    PS. Did the authors themselves vote at the past regional-municipal elections?
    P.P.S. It was emotional. Sorry!
  21. 0
    10 October 2023 01: 34
    Maybe it would be easier to send Nabiulin to his historical homeland?
    1. +1
      10 October 2023 14: 39
      To Bashkiria, to Ufa? Why, what will this change?

      Do you really think that when before her the chairman of the Central Bank was a purebred Russian, Sergei Ignatiev (2002-2013), it was somehow fundamentally better?
      If you didn’t know, Ignatiev remained a member of the Board of Directors of the Central Bank and her adviser under Nabiulina.
  22. +1
    10 October 2023 14: 19
    Isn’t it time to ask the Ministry of Finance and the Central Bank?


    What do the Ministry of Finance and the Central Bank have to do with it?
    Do they, perhaps, determine policy and make key decisions?
    These are ordinary bureaucratic officials, they literally do what the politicians who appointed them tell them and can remove them at any time.

    Who is the politician in our country, who accepts all key decisions, who likes to flaunt their precise knowledge of numbers at their press conferences? That's it! tongue

    But it’s scary to ask him, because for this he might fly in right away. Therefore, it’s better to ask the switchmen strictly.
  23. 0
    12 October 2023 19: 56
    Gentlemen! Everything is very simple - the main income of the state is the export of hydrocarbons for foreign currency. And then on the domestic market the state sells this currency - and the state benefits from a high dollar exchange rate, since the state receives not 50 rubles for the dollar, but 100! After all, the state finances the SVO, and pays the military-industrial complex and the military-industrial complex of the SVO in rubles!
  24. 0
    16 October 2023 01: 01
    All this is difficult. I believe the country’s chief economist, and he has already explained why there is nothing bad and it will be even better.
    What does this mean for the Russian budget? We calculate the budget not in dollars, but in rubles. The value of the ruble has fallen, it has depreciated slightly by 30%. We used to sell a product that cost 1 dollar, and received 32 rubles for it. And now they sold the goods for a ruble, but received 45. Budget revenues increased, not decreased.