It’s not enough to come up with something new, how to bring it to the masses

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It’s not enough to come up with something new, how to bring it to the masses
Color illustration from the magazine “Modelist-Constructor” No. 5 for 1975 for the article “He invented the internal passage.” I didn't like the design of the model. Firstly, the drive is from the engine to one gear, and from it to another. Secondly, the location of the weights on these gears could only produce very weak vibration. Well, and thirdly, this is a continuous shaggy covering of the bottom from an old collar. Although the car is beautiful in appearance, you can’t say anything


"He is always and everywhere
and in hard work,
and in a severe struggle he will win!”

Screensaver song for the program “Pioneer Dawn”.
Music: I. Dunaevsky.
Words: M. Lvovsky

Memories of times gone by. The previous material ended with the fact that the author began working for OblSYUT and, for the sake of temptation, made a “vibration walk from a soap box.” A trifle, a trifle, but it was precisely this trifle that made it possible to make this toy popular, which, however, I never dreamed of at that time.



I dreamed... of earning more money, because at SUT they paid little even for four hours of group work. This amounted to 16 hours a month, so there was no time for fat. But when leaving work on Lermontov Street, I always saw in front of me the lattice tower of the Penza television center and thought, why don’t I go work there as well?

I came, turned to the children's editorial office, and said: “I want to host TV shows for children like Skillful Hands.” They: “Have you ever led them?” I told them: “No, but I worked in a rural school for three years and after that I can teach anything!” We started haggling: they offer me 15 minutes, I demand 30, because for only 30 you can make a homemade product right in the studio and show it in action.

The editor thought and agreed to one program. Moreover, he warned that they have a special editor on duty who grades their programs. And if the broadcast goes well, I won’t see any work from them. But if it’s five, then “yours took it.” Just, he says, keep in mind that the broadcast will be in color, and therefore live, without recording. That's how you want it...


But this drawing is very... long-suffering or popular - it depends on who you are. It appeared in color in “Young Technique” in issue No. 6 for 1977, in an article that talked about models from the circle led by A. Senyutkin. Then in this version - in the book by V. Zavorotov, editions of 1982 and 1988.

There is nothing to do - he put his head in the noose. I went home and rehearsed everything from start to finish in front of the mirror. I wrote a script with a storyboard minute by minute and... went to buy point-and-shoot cameras, because it was necessary to show the assembly of the model in the process, with all the intermediate operations and, in the end, the finished model.

I came to the Main Department Store, bought three soap dishes, and then thought a little and went to see the director. I tell him that then my program will air on Penza TV, where I will make a vibrating walk from these soap dishes. That the children will simply be delighted with this and, in joy, will buy all these soap dishes from him. Moreover, I will tell you right from the screen where they can buy them. That is, he will receive free advertising. And he will fulfill and exceed the plan for them. But... I can now, before it’s too late, go to another store where the soap dishes are blue. And then the plan will be carried out there. And now I have a question - how can he thank me?

The director, I remember, grunted in surprise, but he saw that the matter was serious. He says: “If you were on staff, I would give you a bonus, but how can I thank you, we live in the USSR, not in America.” I tell him, just think about it, and I’ll sell you something more than once this way. Yes, you have a toy department, and in it DP-10 micromotors cost a ruble each, so you can also make money on them, because for this model you need two of them and four more toothbrushes...

We said goodbye, and I went to prepare for the transfer. And I was simply sure, I don’t even know why, that everything would work out great for me. And it worked!


But this is also a page from V. Zavorotov’s book. It is indicated here that these are all-terrain vehicles of V. Shpakovsky. And both of these drawings were taken from articles in some magazines, and I can’t remember which ones now...

I’m sitting, staring at the cameras, working with an electric burner, showing the magazine “Modelist-Constructor”, “Young Technician” No. 6 for 1977, telling me what the beauty of this homemade product is. At the same time I show what, how and where it is attached.

And behind the cameras a bunch of people gathered, free from work. Well, the man himself came, he never worked on TV for a day, he asked for 30 minutes and sits as if nothing had happened, doesn’t sweat, doesn’t stutter, in a word, everything happens as it should, although the broadcast is live, and you can’t hide the flaws here. And exactly at the 28th minute the vibration drive started working for me! So I had time to say goodbye and reminded “write letters” and exactly 30 minutes later the program ended!

They immediately invite me to the editorial office and say: “for the program “5”, we offer a contract for a year...” I told them, “I agree.” And that’s how my “television career” began.

True, they paid little, pennies, one might say: 40 were awarded and 36 in hand. But we still had to buy materials. Their payment was not provided. In order to somehow increase the efficiency of this work, I came up with the idea of ​​writing each scenario in the form of an article for a magazine and at the same time a chapter for a book. I printed them myself, because in the same 1980 I finally bought myself a Yugoslav portable Traveler de Luxe typewriter, and finally scrapped my old Moskva.

And that’s how it went: the script was tested on a TV screen and while working with the guys at SUT, then an article in a magazine and a chapter in a book. Thus, by 1982 I had a book for children with 25 chapters ready, and it was possible to offer it for printing to a publishing house.

Yes, but how did it end with the Main Department Store?

Oooh, this is also worthy of a separate story, because, as I expected, all the red soap dishes and micromotors in it were sold out by the children literally in the next three days, and then, by the way, the blue soap dishes also all disappeared!


And this is what one of these same models looks like in my book “For those who love to tinker” published by the Prosveshcheniye publishing house in 1990

I come to the director, and he is happy - he even says that he didn’t expect this, he doubted it until the last moment, he invites me... to the fourth floor of the department store, to the special department, where mainly party state nomenklatura workers dressed and put on their shoes. Representatives of the hegemonic class and the working peasantry also come here when they go as candidates for a congress or somewhere else “for representation.”

“I can’t pay money,” he says, “but in gratitude... choose what you want!” I say, “I’ll call my wife now, let her choose.” She had to take time off from work at the museum, take whatever money she had at home, and there wasn’t much, and then urgently come to me... to the fourth floor.

True, the finances were only enough for a woolen blouse made of Indian wool, but for the price of just one gear. Well, we bought it, not being either delegates to the congress, who were dressed there from underpants to hats and shoes on their feet, or participants in international exhibitions, where ours also could not lose face in the dirt - but only at the expense of intelligence and ingenuity . She wore it for a long time, it was such good quality, and everyone asked her: “Where did you get it, where?” But it is clear that this very “where” was not mentioned to anyone then!


“Reindeer Walker” is not mine. From UT. But I made it and proposed to start producing it in the form of a toy at our Penza toy factory. And they didn’t manage to do that there either!

Articles about homemade products written on a “scenario basis” also came into use. Those that were made of paper in the form of color scans - “Hanseatic Cogg”, “Ship of the Island of Crete” and similar materials on the last page of the cover, began to be published in the magazine “Family and School” and were very much welcomed by them.

Homemade products with a motor were in demand by the magazines “Young Technician” and “Vocational Education”; something was published in the magazine “Modelist-Constructor” and even in such a specific publication as “Club and Amateur Arts”.

But it was not there. As it turned out, the publishing house “Prosveshchenie”, the most famous for such literature, was at that time busy publishing books by V. Zavorotov. And, it is clear that neither he nor the publishing house needed competitors. Well, I’ll talk about the problems with publishing children’s books on technical creativity some other time, but for now I should finish the topic of vibration walkers. I broadcast a program about them again in Kuibyshev, when I began studying there in graduate school, but before that, my acquaintance with this “technique” helped me once again.

And it so happened that when I started working in 1982 at the department Stories CPSU Penza Polytechnic Institute, I came across an announcement about an All-Union competition for the best solution for creating technical teaching aids and educational visual aids for vocational education institutions.

Of all the technical teaching aids, in addition to the old film projector, at our department there was only an overhead projector - a funny device that projects from a transparent horizontal screen onto a screen on the wall. It came with replaceable sheets of transparent plastic, on which you could draw with special felt-tip pens.
I really liked using it, so I thought, what if I made something specifically for the overhead projector. I thought about it and came up with a device for demonstrating Brownian motion using an overhead projector.


And here is a certificate for the vibrator for the overhead projector! To celebrate, the institute even gave me some kind of bonus. After all, it wasn’t an engineer who came up with it, but an assistant from the Department of History of the CPSU

It was a transparent plastic plate with sides 3 mm high, the outline of which represented the walls of the vessel. There was also a transparent lid on top of it, and inside there were transparent circles 2,5 mm thick, red and green, representing molecules. On the side, out of sight of the overhead projector, a plate with a micromotor and a rheostat was fixed. An asymmetrically fixed load was attached to the motor shaft, and... that’s it.

As soon as the engine was turned on, the vibration was transmitted to the plane of the “vessel”, and the “molecules” inside began to move chaotically. Moreover, it was not visible on the screen that any force was applied to them. It seemed that they were moving on their own, and it was like real magic.

In any case, the students to whom I showed it were completely delighted and for a long time afterwards could not understand “how it works.” The award from the organizing committee was a very pleasant reward, because it was very difficult to come up with such a thing.

To be continued ...
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  1. +5
    3 October 2023 06: 36
    Uncle, oh uncle!
    My aunt went to Kamchatka in the late 60s and worked on a ship on canned fish.
    And after that I bought a house near Leningrad and a car. And my friend was a technologist - a printer in a printing house. And he, too, never counted a penny. He dressed in such a way that one could take him for a minister..... When a person came “from the North” or from Dalny, he brought 10 thousand.
    To earn money, you have to WORK, and not buy soap dishes... Hello family! laughing
    1. -8
      3 October 2023 06: 50
      Quote: ivan2022
      Need to work,

      It’s all the same Ivan, only some people work with their hands, and others with their heads! In the USSR, working with your hands was valued higher than working with your head. That's why it collapsed... Now we are getting rid of this imbalance.
      1. +12
        3 October 2023 07: 52
        Quote: kalibr
        Quote: ivan2022
        Need to work,

        It’s all the same Ivan, only some people work with their hands, and others with their heads! In the USSR, working with your hands was valued higher than working with your head. That's why it collapsed... Now we are getting rid of this imbalance.

        Are you sure? I would not say that now the work of a scientist is highly valued. Often he cannot find a job in his specialty at all... .
        And students laugh when you tell them about working at a research institute. laughing


        Heh.. heh... Mr. Shpakovsky is a PR man, as they say, “to the marrow of his bones”.....
        “The USSR collapsed” turns out to be because it was the USSR. But not from traitors, fools and thieves.....
        I believe that the Russian Federation will not collapse, even if there are an order of magnitude more of them, they will protect themselves!!
        1. -1
          3 October 2023 11: 36
          Quote: ivan2022
          Often he cannot find a job in his specialty at all... .

          Scientist?
        2. -3
          3 October 2023 11: 51
          Quote: ivan2022
          But not from traitors, fools and thieves.....

          A new historical community of people called the “Soviet people” from which all the traitors, fools and thieves came...
          1. +8
            3 October 2023 13: 20
            Vyacheslav, you will, of course, excuse me, but isn’t it written in plain text on your certificate that the Certificate of Honor was awarded to a teacher at the Department of History of the CPSU?

            At Moscow State University, do you know where the Faculty of Public Administration (FGU) was founded and on what?
            Based on ... correctly, the Department of History of the CPSU. In 1995-97, they didn’t even have time to remove the entire library from there - the works that your colleagues riveted were still lying in stacks in the classrooms. And then the backbone of the teaching staff of the disciplines “management”, “political science” and so on was made up of the same former teachers of Marxism-Leninism.

            But your colleagues didn’t lose face there either. The fact is that the materials were all translated, and we, the students, translated them; if you don’t translate so many pages, you won’t get a credit. As a result, our translations were included in textbooks published under the names of teachers.
            That's how it all began and that's how it continued.

            Was it my grandfather who was a traitor, who oversaw the opening of the main pulp and paper mills in the USSR? And your colleagues who defected to the Posev magazine later told the population about sausage made from toilet paper. Is it my other grandfather - a traitor who released hundreds of specialists from MIIT who designed the trains? Only he did not teach Marxism-Leninism, he was a deputy and then at one time the head of the department of theoretical and applied mechanics. Country of traitors.
            Not the country, but the political workers; there is no need to speak for the whole country.
            1. -4
              3 October 2023 14: 28
              Quote: nikolaevskiy78
              Not the country, but the political workers; there is no need to speak for the whole country.

              The CPSU consisted of 18 million people. From cattlemen to doctors of science, ministers and marshals. And none of them lifted a finger for the USSR. So don’t just talk about political workers. And again, what kind of social system is this in which its political workers are such crap? Didn't this occur to you when you wrote your philippic?
              1. +9
                3 October 2023 14: 46
                Political workers create meanings and transmit them to people’s heads. It is possible to demand meaning from the cowgirl Daria and the turner Vasily, but for this there is a layer of specially trained and paid people. And it has always existed under different names. When this layer begins to publish the magazine Posev, the meanings collapse and it is not the milkmaid’s fault. The current generation simply no longer remembers all these Lights, magazines Znanie, Voprosy Istorii, Novoye Vremya, Sowing, etc., from which for several years things poured out that political workers did not understand a single gram of, conveying to the proletariat meanings about “freedom of the market.” That’s why I wrote about how former political instructors later became authors of “scientific works” and received new statuses - by compiling Western translations. Exactly the same layer that destroyed meanings in the late USSR today creates new meanings - the result of this creativity is strictly the same.
                1. -1
                  3 October 2023 16: 36
                  Quote: nikolaevskiy78
                  That’s why I wrote about how former political instructors later became authors of “scientific works” and received new statuses - by compiling Western translations.

                  Why did they get so bad? Children of workers and peasants... Same Gorbachev and Yeltsin, were there really children of candidates of historical sciences?
                  1. +4
                    3 October 2023 20: 32
                    So this is what you need to ask. You were missing nothing, jeans, records, freedom. Well, you weren’t paid enough for the labor ministers and others, but here you are lamenting that the hard workers were often given more in terms of output than the unfortunate labor ministers.
                    What did you have to pay for, please?
                    My grandfather, Doctor of Technical Sciences, deputy head of the department, received over 700 rubles per month. two apartments in Moscow and a dacha. Member of the Board of the Ministry of Transport. 400 scientific works, 80 inventions, social work, etc. He participated in solving problems related to the removal of oil from the north, and scientifically developed wheel pairs capable of withstanding the load of multi-kilometer trains. Born in the village of Urleika, present-day Penza region, 50 km from you. This is so, if anything, your fellow countryman.
                    The second grandfather with the rank of deputy minister received LESS than the first and also had fewer goodies.
                    Do you find this unfair? The rate of a deputy minister was lower than that of a professor and doctor of technical sciences, a member of the board of miners. BELOW.
                    What did you want? Do you receive ministry rates for crafts with toothbrushes and motors? Well, in reality it looks like this, like an insult to the system. This is how you would build this system. People came from the North with crazy amounts of money. From BAM, from construction sites. A worker at the IL plant in Tashkent could have up to 500!! rub. I just don’t understand that you, the Ministry of Taxes and Political Commissars, were not happy with the way you worked and were paid. The structure was not the same, but now it is the same, right according to the Posev magazine. Sowed, sowers. Don't calm down about the USSR. He has been gone for 30 years, he is tormented by all the pain.
                    1. 0
                      4 October 2023 11: 23
                      And they, of course, unanimously supported the USSR in 91, didn’t they? They said a decisive no to the new government and refused to work for it...
                      1. +3
                        4 October 2023 13: 10
                        And they, of course, unanimously supported the USSR in 91, didn’t they? They said a decisive no to the new government and refused to work for it...

                        For which USSR? For one where there are a bunch of feeders and in each one sits a Shpakovsky who says one thing, does another, and thinks something else?
                        It was too late. The organism called the USSR could not cope with the disease brought by microbes of the “Shpakovsky” type.
                        Although Shpakovsky is also partially right here - a healthy body would easily cope with such a trifle.
                    2. +1
                      4 October 2023 11: 31
                      Unfortunately, you are wrong: the author of the article does not write about the low earnings of people with mental work, but about the system as a whole. I worked in the Soviet military-industrial complex, in a design bureau with thousands of engineers and technicians. And such design bureaus, design bureaus, research institutes, pilot plants, experimental laboratories, etc. there was a huge number. If I’m not mistaken, the UN in the 60-70s gave an estimate of the number of Soviet engineering and technical personnel as 50% of the planetary total. How could the Union, with such forces, lose the race for the quality of consumer goods? We reject the version about stupidity and hands-on behavior: many achievements of the States were made by immigrants from Russia - television, helicopter, incandescent lamp, welding, etc. Obviously, the reason is different. Lack of interest of the designer, researcher, technologist... in the final results of their work! I think the author of the article was trying to convey this idea to the readers?
                      1. 0
                        5 October 2023 16: 08
                        My statements are quite controversial, but not interesting? I'll try to continue. The Union produced few economists, lawyers, artists, doctors, teachers and other people in the humanitarian professions! Brokers, merchandisers, logistics... - no, we haven’t heard of it. Advertisers, fashion designers, designers... was it something like that? Most of the graduates were engineers and technicians, engineers and technicians. In confirmation, reference books for applicants to educational institutions, all-Union, were published every year with updated content. At the same time, in the West there are a huge number of lawyers, economists, psychologists, financiers, stockbrokers and other humanists. ITR, in percentage terms, is very small. Therefore, Soviet technicians, since the time of Gorbachev (“perestroika”), have been valued in the West. Let the West solve its problems itself. But why was there such a disproportion in the Union between the “physicists” and the “lyricists”. In my opinion, the whole point is in the then priority of the economy of group “A” (production of means of production) over the economy of group “B” (production of consumer goods). What was necessary and correct during the war, industrialization, and post-war reconstruction became a brake in the “post-industrial” economy. This is probably also the reason for the sad fact that the consumer properties of Soviet-made goods lag behind the world level, massively, not just individually. Unfortunately, this Soviet distortion has not yet been completely eliminated. I do not call, as in the time of Gaidar, to smash and destroy enterprises of the military-industrial complex, RosAtom, RosCosmos, etc. They barely managed to stop this madman! But he managed to do such a lot of things that we are still unraveling. How to deal with "skew"? Russian economists are apparently lost in thought...
              2. 0
                3 October 2023 21: 14
                Can I ask? When did you lie? When you taught at the Department of History of the CPSU, or now?
                1. 0
                  4 October 2023 11: 21
                  Quote from mixail sherbakov
                  Can I ask? When did you lie? When you taught at the Department of History of the CPSU, or now?

                  Never! I always said what I knew or know, and which is based on the appropriate level of information. During Soviet times, I did not have access to alternative sources of information. What they gave me, I passed on to others. Explained clearly?
          2. +5
            3 October 2023 16: 22
            True, they paid little, pennies, one might say: 40 were awarded and 36 in hand

            Vyacheslav Olegovich, don’t be disingenuous smile At VO, thank God, there are still those who lived in those days, and they know very well that this is not so Yes
            Salaries up to 70 rubles were not subject to income tax in the USSR. Salaries starting from 71 rubles and above were subject to taxation. The table of Soviet income taxes will help you - it is in the public domain.
            A 6% tax on childlessness won’t work here either, since when asked why you needed these teleworking jobs, you answer
            I just loved my wife very much and daughter. Believed that they deserved all the best (c)
            1. -1
              3 October 2023 16: 40
              Quote: Richard
              At VO, thank God, there are still those who lived in those days, and they know very well that this is not so

              You know, Richard, it’s funny for me to deceive you and others like you for such a pittance. I have never swum and don’t swim so shallow. I didn’t think about why this was so then, and only now I learned about such a law from you. But the fact that I received 36 out of 40 is beyond doubt. But in Kuibyshev, for the same 30 minutes they paid me 50, but I received 40-something. The difference was noticeable.
              1. +1
                3 October 2023 16: 54
                the fact that I received 36 out of 40 is beyond doubt

                Were you a member of the party at that time? What about the trade union?
                I mean membership fees.
                1. 0
                  3 October 2023 17: 54
                  Both in the party and in the trade union. Moreover, when I started working at the institute and at the same time at SUT and on TV, our party organizer immediately told me that I should pay dues from all income, including royalties from newspapers and magazines. Once someone, apparently also distrustful like you (it’s been true for a long time), asked me to post a photocopy of my party card. I posted it. And there all the fees are different for different months! "Why?" Yes, because I didn’t live on one salary and received it differently every month. Should you also post scans of your membership card? I don’t have a trade union, I’ll warn you right away. This one was thrown away.
                  1. +2
                    3 October 2023 18: 40
                    Well, why snap back right away? I don't need any scans from you. It’s just that maybe this difference between white and black wages was precisely what you had taking into account desks and professional benefits.
          3. +3
            3 October 2023 17: 59
            Quote: kalibr
            Quote: ivan2022
            But not from traitors, fools and thieves.....

            A new historical community of people called the “Soviet people” from which all the traitors, fools and thieves came...

            And you too?
            1. +1
              4 October 2023 06: 47
              Quote: your vsr 66-67
              (Nikolai)

              And you too, Nikolai! We are all from the same ship.
              1. +4
                4 October 2023 08: 02
                Quote: kalibr
                Quote: your vsr 66-67
                (Nikolai)

                And you too, Nikolai! We are all from the same ship.

                Not really. You are deeply mistaken, Mr. Shpakovsky. I was not on the same ship with you!
                You are an opportunist, this can be seen with the naked eye. When the communists were in power, you adapted around them. The communists are in disgrace, you call them traitors, thieves, etc.
                Aren’t thieves and traitors in power now?
                I’ll also explain about one ship. I have never been in any party!!!
                About your love for your wife and daughter. You say that you tried to make sure they had everything. It is commendable!!
                You probably know who Vladimir Sungorkin is. Former editor-in-chief of Komsomolskaya Pravda. So he’s young, he started his career as a correspondent at BAM! By the way, I gave BAM 22 years.
                About Sungorkin. He was not afraid of difficulties, instability, frosts and midges, but WORKED!!! Unlike you! And not only did he earn decent money (they were paid to everyone working at BAM, but not the suckers), he was also able to buy EVERYTHING without special departments of the department store! The supply was excellent! You could buy everything, from instant coffee to an Indian blouse for your wife and a sheepskin coat with boots!
                But you didn’t go to BAM for the sake of your beloved wife and daughter!
                You hung around the regional committee, city committee, district committee (underline as appropriate) of the CPSU, and near the television center and editorial offices!
                By the way, I didn’t go to build BAM because of the fog and the smell of the taiga.
                But let's return to your ship.
                And now you are rubbing your articles from your archive of the 70-80s of the last century into gullible readers!
                You’re not inventing anything in the sense of short stories now! Everything you publish almost daily is all composed in a past life! The observant reader understood this.
                And why are you posting this?
                Yes, again for the sake of money! There are tons of comments, you publish them often, the rating is high, and it follows that the VO editors pay you royalties for articles + royalties for advertising!
                You're an opportunist!
                And if people stop reading and commenting on your articles, you will immediately disappear! Start looking for other readers on other sites! There was one naval aviation navigator here! laughing
                And where is he now? hi
                1. 0
                  4 October 2023 11: 08
                  Quote: your vsr 66-67
                  People will stop reading and commenting on your articles, you will immediately merge!

                  Since 2015 they have been reading and commenting. So it was and so it will be in the future! But you’re kind of strange...why go somewhere if you could find the same thing without leaving anywhere? Someone had to go, well, he went... His happiness! My happiness was very close...
                  1. +1
                    4 October 2023 12: 44
                    .why go somewhere if everything the same could be found without leaving anywhere?

                    Here is the answer! So you “found” everything on the fourth floor of the department store! And here you tell simple-minded people that you were like everyone else, proletarians... And you also wrote about advertising for the director of a department store! laughing . But in fact, they shopped in that very special department!
                2. 0
                  4 October 2023 11: 11
                  Quote: your vsr 66-67
                  I was not on the same ship with you!

                  This means you are writing from Mars?! I didn't know that our people were already there!
                3. 0
                  4 October 2023 11: 14
                  Quote: your vsr 66-67
                  I have never been in any party!!!

                  And what is there to boast about? Thanks to the fact that I was there, I know all the ins and outs of party work. I worked in the party archives where your path is barred. And knowledge is the most valuable thing in the world.
                4. 0
                  4 October 2023 11: 17
                  Quote: your vsr 66-67
                  all this was composed in a past life!

                  The series about the hardworking Middle Ages has just ended. Based on the most up-to-date materials from access to the Nuremberg Library. In the 70-80s of the last century this would not have been available. Then the books of the 12 brothers were not digitized.
                  1. +2
                    4 October 2023 12: 08
                    Well, judging by the fact that you are a former party worker, you are tongue-tied! You will find the answer to anything!
                    But for some reason the answer about the opportunist is missing! laughing
                    1. -2
                      4 October 2023 12: 25
                      Quote: your vsr 66-67
                      about an opportunist

                      I want to? Get it! You are also an opportunist! Haven't you adapted to today's life? Don't pay taxes to the treasury, don't work for... the "regime". or are you writing all this from the dugout of the “Back to the USSR” partisan detachment? No Yes? Did not guess. So you are exactly the same opportunist. "Not an opportunist" You are only in words. That is, like so many people, we are only ready to chat. Well, chat on! And about the tongue-tied question - yes! The lecturers of the CPSU Central Committee taught us how to remove objections and answer the most difficult questions of the working people. And having a discussion with you is like beating a child.
      2. +9
        3 October 2023 08: 37
        In the USSR, working with your hands was valued higher than working with your head. That's why he collapsed...

        An extremely controversial statement.. And working with one’s head was valued in the Union, and it was not at all because of this that it collapsed... And, like correcting the imbalance, it led to the fact that there was actually no one to work with one’s hands..

        This is work, they say, of amateurs above the roof, though with very dubious returns, but who can you force to work for pennies at a machine or in a field?
        1. -6
          3 October 2023 11: 34
          Quote: paul3390
          A highly controversial statement.

          That is, you think that 40 rubles. Is this normal for a 30-minute live TV show? Try at least one...
          1. +5
            3 October 2023 11: 44
            That is, you think that 40 rubles. Is this normal for a 30-minute live TV show?

            Well, it seems like the average monthly salary of a cleaning lady was. Or a few days of plowing in a factory. What's easier?
            1. +9
              3 October 2023 13: 20
              That is, you think that 40 rubles. Is this normal for a 30-minute live TV show?

              This is more than normal! A common scholarship in civilian universities of the USSR at that time. And this is only if the session is passed without “tails”. For everything a month - for food, for hygiene items, for stationery, for new clothes, and for everything else. My wife, studying in Ped and living in a dorm, received one for five years. What helped was blood donation, infrequent food “gifts” from poor parents, and in the summer, construction brigades. I didn’t complain - most students lived like this
              1. -9
                3 October 2023 14: 32
                Quote: Richard
                This is more than normal!

                If you had held at least one TV show, you wouldn’t have thought so, Richard.
            2. -2
              3 October 2023 14: 30
              Quote: Ivan Ivanych Ivanov
              Well, it seems like the average monthly salary of a cleaning lady was. Or a few days of plowing in a factory. What's easier?

              And how many cleaners have you seen on TV? You can take a break from physical labor - I know from my dacha. But mentally, even sleep is not always refreshing.
              1. +7
                3 October 2023 15: 00
                And how many cleaners have you seen on TV?

                Well, judging by how many tik-tokers, YouTubers and other Instagram women there are now, acting on screen is not a big deal. If it were as difficult as you say, there wouldn’t be so many of them.
                1. -5
                  3 October 2023 16: 43
                  Quote: Ivan Ivanych Ivanov
                  If it were as difficult as you say, there wouldn’t be so many of them.

                  I’m talking about a live show where a homemade project is put together in 30 minutes and talks about the achievements of science and technology, and you tell me about some rehearsed and recorded tiktokers. Well, you can strain your head and not compare horseradish with your finger.
                  1. +3
                    4 October 2023 10: 32
                    Well, you can strain your head and not compare horseradish with your finger.

                    Well, why so much bile? Everyone has long understood that your 30 minutes on Penza TV can only be compared with Gagarin’s flight into space. And then, Gagarin flew for only 108 minutes, not much more. And for some reason he received incomparably more fame and honors. How is it like this?
                    1. -1
                      4 October 2023 11: 04
                      Quote: Ivan Ivanych Ivanov
                      Everyone has long understood that your 30 minutes on Penza TV can only be compared with Gagarin’s flight into space.

                      Ivan, can I pour out bile for you? Everyone has their own contribution to the development of civilization. Gagarin flew, I prepared such loons. 10 years, 12 programs a year - 120 programs that were watched by thousands of schoolchildren. This is a lot and it has brought considerable benefits to society. Don't you understand this?
                      1. +2
                        4 October 2023 11: 31
                        Ivan, can I pour out bile for you? Everyone has their own contribution to the development of civilization. Gagarin flew, I prepared such loons. 10 years, 12 programs a year - 120 programs that were watched by thousands of schoolchildren. This is a lot and it has brought considerable benefits to society. Don't you understand this?

                        This is not bile, but sarcasm. Kind of different things.
                        Everyone has their own contribution to the development of civilization.

                        Yes, where are we, orphans, bast shoes, before civilization?
                      2. 0
                        4 October 2023 12: 27
                        Quote: Ivan Ivanych Ivanov
                        Yes, where are we, orphans, bast shoes, before civilization?

                        It’s easier to write that you won’t write an article about your work with children. Why so many words? But then don't say it's easy.
                      3. +1
                        4 October 2023 12: 57
                        It’s easier to write that you won’t write an article about your work with children. Why so many words? But then don't say it's easy.

                        For now, I’m not interested in this - financially, morally, etc.
                        I didn’t say anything about it being easy - no need to lie. Here are my words:
                        Comments are more often an expression of opinion, and articles are a certain amount of work. And any work must be done by a professional. Otherwise, the result is profanation and graphomanism.
    2. +4
      3 October 2023 07: 35
      To earn money, you have to WORK, and not buy soap dishes laughing

      Quote from some great man:
      To earn a living you have to work. And to get rich you need to come up with something else.
      1. +4
        3 October 2023 07: 43
        Quote: geniy
        To earn a living you have to work. And to get rich you need to come up with something else.

        I benefit from someone else's work, but I don't benefit from someone else's wealth.

        Therefore, I support the first and DO NOT support the second. And if people don’t understand this simple thing, they end up losing their country.
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  2. +10
    3 October 2023 06: 44
    Vyacheslav Olegovich,
    good morning!
    This is why all the soap dishes disappeared, and so did the soap. laughing
    Toothbrushes, followed by toothpaste laughing
    A charge of positivity in the morning!
    hi
    1. -2
      3 October 2023 06: 48
      Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
      That's why all the soap boxes disappeared,

      Good morning, Edward! That's exactly what happened.
      1. AUL
        +5
        3 October 2023 07: 53
        And when we were young, we collected transistor radios in soap dishes. It also contributed to the disappearance of soap dishes in stores!
        1. +2
          3 October 2023 08: 05
          But I don’t think so. The stores were always full of this junk.

          In general, you can even conduct a study of the level of intelligence of the public. She doesn’t see a contradiction in the fact that you can produce nothing, but “have everything in stores”..... And she thinks that this is good....
          1. AUL
            +3
            3 October 2023 09: 53
            Quote: ivan2022
            In general, you can even conduct a study of the level of intelligence of the public.

            In general, you can even conduct a study of the level of the public's sense of humor.
        2. +3
          3 October 2023 08: 31
          And when we were young, we collected transistor radios in soap dishes. It also contributed to the disappearance of soap dishes in stores!
          Even such a receiver was included in the film (Keys to the Sky). But it was better to use standard housings for receivers (50 kopecks or 1 ruble), a 0,1 GD 6 speaker fit there without any problems, but there were problems in the soap dish.
          1. AUL
            +2
            3 October 2023 09: 48
            Well, standard cases appeared on sale a little later, like the Czech Tesla KPIs (there was a terrible shortage, they used tuning capacitors).
            1. +2
              3 October 2023 18: 28
              used tuning capacitors
              Well, yes, KPK-2 was quite enough for the Far East and the North.
              Well, standard cases appeared on sale a little later,
              There have been corps in Orenburg since 1967, Czech command posts never appeared.
    2. +3
      3 October 2023 14: 41
      This is why all the soap dishes disappeared, followed by soap, toothbrushes and toothpaste. laughing

      Typically, toothpaste, toothbrushes, plastic cases for them and plastic soap dishes disappeared en masse from the shelves of the USSR only during the period of children's pioneer camps. And the rest of the time they collected dust on store shelves. smile
      Greetings, Edward! hi
      1. +2
        3 October 2023 15: 21
        In the 70s, my camp field toothbrush for the summer pioneer camp was folding

        but the soap dish was “sophisticated” - with a brush, it was convenient for her to thoroughly wash her hands of dirt and even do small children’s laundry. This pleasure cost only 35 kopecks.

        PS. By the way, this would be more suitable for Shpakovsky for his vibration walkers made from soap dishes - there is no need to glue the heads of toothbrushes onto the body. Savings - minus 4 toothbrushes - 80 kopecks! smile
        1. +2
          3 October 2023 16: 06
          By the way, this would be more suitable for Shpakovsky for his vibration walkers made from soap dishes - there is no need to glue the heads of toothbrushes onto the body.

          It would not work - the brushes should be soft and have a slight bend in the bristles. The vibrating walker does not move on even bristles.
        2. +1
          3 October 2023 16: 46
          Quote: Richard
          In the 70s, my camp field toothbrush for the summer pioneer camp was folding

          but the soap dish was “sophisticated” - with a brush, it was convenient for her to thoroughly wash her hands of dirt and even do small children’s laundry. This pleasure cost only 35 kopecks.

          PS. By the way, this would be more suitable for Shpakovsky for his vibration walkers made from soap dishes - there is no need to glue the heads of toothbrushes onto the body. Savings - minus 4 toothbrushes - 80 kopecks! smile

          No, it wouldn’t fit! I tried it. It is necessary that the brushes are positioned like the tracks of a tank, then the vibratory walker can turn. With solid pile, not the bottom - no!
          1. +1
            3 October 2023 20: 04
            No, it wouldn’t fit! I tried it.

            But it would make a convenient, inexpensive, compact vibrating massager that people with health problems can carry with them everywhere. At that time, a copyright certificate patent could easily be obtained for this. I am sure that, unlike your homemade toy for SUT, the industry would be interested in this
            1. -2
              3 October 2023 20: 57
              Quote: Richard
              I am sure that, unlike your homemade toy for SUT, the industry would be interested in this

              Most likely no. In addition, in medicine we had very strict GOSTs.
              1. 0
                3 October 2023 21: 53
                How many downvotes did you get while I was updating and rebooting? In vain. IMHO, a dispute is better than a minus
                For an author's certificate, GOST is not needed, you need an application, operating principles and drawings, and the manufacturer will manufacture the product itself in accordance with GOSTs, including in relation to the materials from which the product is made, and the required honey. GOST vibration frequency is easy to select with the desired flywheel
                1. -2
                  4 October 2023 06: 53
                  Quote: Richard
                  How many downvotes did you get while I was updating and rebooting?

                  Why be surprised, Richard? 80% of people are stupid from birth, and only 20% are quite the opposite. You are in your 20s, so this surprises you. Until... I've been gone for a long time. But we mainly work for 80 people. Although this is a thankless job, it is honorable and not too difficult. Imagine if 80% of people here were like you? Yes, you'll be tempted to write to you... How nauseous would it be to try?
            2. 0
              5 October 2023 12: 28
              Not entirely true, there were similar projects. The problem is that they (eccentric engines) need an underlying surface that is elastic and has a friction force. Preferably very elastic and with a high coefficient of friction. These engines have not found widespread use on Earth, for various reasons. And where they tried to use them (in space), they violated the laws of physics, no matter what sophisticated designs were proposed.
  3. +8
    3 October 2023 08: 29
    The author, amazing for that time, a brilliant rascal
    I came to the Main Department Store, bought three soap dishes, and then thought a little and went to see the director. I tell him that then my program will air on Penza TV, where I will make a vibrating walk from these soap dishes. That the children will simply be delighted with this and, in joy, will buy all these soap dishes from him. Moreover, I will tell you right from the screen where they can buy them. That is, he will receive free advertising.
    You should have thought of something like this back then.
    1. -2
      3 October 2023 14: 51
      Quote: Ivan Ivanych Ivanov
      genius rascal

      I just loved my wife and daughter very much. I believed that they deserved all the best. That what a woman wants, God wants. And that you are responsible for those you have tamed... That's it!
  4. +5
    3 October 2023 08: 34
    "Shpakovsky's all-terrain vehicles" were very expensive for that time. Motors cost about a ruble, EMNIP gearboxes cost 1,5 rubles. In general, about 5 - 6 rubles only for parts. For children's one-time creativity, money is practically inaccessible, both for children and for clubs.
    1. +1
      3 October 2023 11: 40
      Quote: Ivan Ivanych Ivanov
      For children's one-time creativity, money is practically inaccessible, both for children and for clubs.

      Yes, Ivan had problems with the circle. I'll tell you more about this...
    2. +1
      3 October 2023 11: 45
      Quote: Ivan Ivanych Ivanov
      were quite expensive.

      The price is as follows: 2 rubles for motors (gearboxes are not needed), soap dish - 40 kopecks. 4 brushes - 80 kopecks. 1 “eraser” - cut in half. Well, wires, a battery and “small things” for decoration. Total approximately 3 rubles. 20 kopecks
      1. +2
        3 October 2023 11: 49
        The price is 2 rubles for motors (editors are not needed there), a soap dish - 40 kopecks. 4 brushes - 80 kopecks. Well, wires, a battery and “small things” for decoration. Total 3 r. 20 kopecks

        I wrote about all-terrain vehicles with gearboxes. Now motors with gearboxes are easy to buy for 100 rubles
        assembled - i.e. making these models now is very cheap compared to those times.
        1. 0
          3 October 2023 14: 35
          Quote: Ivan Ivanych Ivanov
          very cheap

          Yes, probably. I wonder if there are motors without gearboxes. In my opinion, everything should be on Ali Express. But I don’t offer them to anyone today. Each time has its own songs.
          1. +2
            3 October 2023 14: 53
            I wonder if there are motors without gearboxes?

            There is a very large assortment. Now there is almost EVERYTHING. Both on Ali and in radio parts stores. A very fertile time for modelers. Brushless electric motors are now more powerful than internal combustion engines for professional modelers back then. That’s why now, in my circles, kids who are 7-8 years old are making RC airplanes.
            1. +1
              3 October 2023 16: 48
              Quote: Ivan Ivanych Ivanov
              That’s why now, in my circles, kids who are 7-8 years old are making RC airplanes.

              So we would talk about this in an article with photographs of your pets’ work. As a response to this, let’s say, material! It would be great!
              1. -1
                4 October 2023 07: 14
                Quote: kalibr
                So we would talk about this in an article with photographs of your pets’ work. As a response to this, let’s say, material! It would be great!

                As soon as you suggest something like this, everyone “molts” from here. Writing comments is a pleasure to watch, but to talk intelligently about a good deed is - screw you! No answer, no hello!
                1. +2
                  4 October 2023 10: 24
                  As soon as you suggest something like this, everyone “molts” from here. Writing comments is a pleasure to watch, but to talk intelligently about a good deed is - screw you! No answer, no hello!

                  Everyone should do what they like. You haven't worked at a factory for a day, have you? They only engaged in near-technical handjobs, but you have your own very unflattering opinion about the “hard workers.” Therefore, others HAVE the RIGHT, without writing, to have their own opinion about “writers” and “writing.”
                  Comments are more often an expression of opinion, and articles are a certain amount of work. And any work must be done by a professional. Otherwise, the result is profanation and graphomanism.
                  1. +1
                    4 October 2023 10: 56
                    Quote: Ivan Ivanych Ivanov
                    Otherwise, the result is profanation and graphomanism.

                    You are not right. Any educated person engaged in some interesting work can ALWAYS write about his work. !-2 articles always. It will be difficult to write to him every day. Tested several times, including here on VO. You just don’t want to, and you don’t want to because you’re afraid of public opinion that you won’t like it. Don't be afraid!
                    1. +1
                      4 October 2023 11: 04
                      You just don’t want to, and you don’t want to because you’re afraid of public opinion that you won’t like it.

                      The advertiser is immediately visible. You immediately need to sell an unnecessary product, imposing the “necessary” desire.
                      Wrote the same
                      Comments are more often an expression of opinion, and articles are a certain amount of work. And any work must be done by a professional. Otherwise, the result is profanation and graphomanism.
                      What is incomprehensible here?
                      1. 0
                        4 October 2023 12: 14
                        So you work with children, but you can’t write about it? Sadly!
                  2. -2
                    4 October 2023 10: 58
                    Quote: Ivan Ivanych Ivanov
                    but you have your own very unflattering opinion about the “hard workers.”

                    Do you really need to work at a factory in order to have an idea about them? I lived next to them. This is more important!
                    1. +1
                      4 October 2023 11: 15
                      Do you really need to work at a factory in order to have an idea about them? I lived next to them. This is more important!

                      It’s like “why serve in the army? Vasya, my neighbor, told me everything about her and I know EVERYTHING about her.” You lived next to people, and in very small numbers, and in a factory these people are part of the production process, which is not at all the same thing.
                      And you contradict yourself
                      Thanks to the fact that I was there, I know all the ins and outs of party work. I worked in the party archives where your path is barred. And knowledge is the most valuable thing in the world.

                      Double standards on the face.
                      1. 0
                        4 October 2023 12: 15
                        Quote: Ivan Ivanych Ivanov
                        And you contradict yourself

                        In what?
                      2. +1
                        4 October 2023 13: 05
                        In what?

                        Since you are so narrow-minded or pretend to be so, I will explain.
                        According to your statements, you don’t have to work at a factory, but know EVERYTHING about the “hard workers.” But at the same time, you cannot know EVERYTHING about the “party members” without visiting the “PARTY ARCHIVE” where no one except you is allowed. It’s as if people have never met “party members” in their lives.
                        It's a double standard.
  5. +3
    3 October 2023 08: 44
    I dreamed... of earning more money, because at SUT they paid little even for four hours of group work.

    99% of those people didn't work for the money back then. There were many even “on a voluntary basis” - i.e. for free. Now it's about 50/50.
    True, they paid little, pennies, one might say: 40 were awarded and 36 in hand.

    Is this a month's salary?
    1. -2
      3 October 2023 11: 42
      Quote: Ivan Ivanych Ivanov
      Is this a month's salary?

      This is a fee for one TV program. Because of the population in the Penza region. In Kuibyshevskaya the population was larger and there they paid me 50 rubles for the transfer. But income was also deducted. There was one show a month!
      1. +2
        3 October 2023 11: 53
        There was one show a month!

        Not bad at all if you host several programs. Taking into account the preparation for the transfer and the cost of parts and tools, this is essentially a day's earnings. Few places at that time were so profitable to work.
        1. -2
          3 October 2023 14: 38
          Quote: Ivan Ivanych Ivanov
          Few places at that time were so profitable to work.

          12 transfers per year. Do you think it's beneficial? I didn’t think so and don’t think so. But the profitability was increased by the fact that the scripts were turned into articles in the magazines “U-T”, “M-K”, School and Production”, “Family and School”, “Club and Amateur Arts”. Then all this went into chapters in books. It was still possible to live decently on this...
          1. +2
            3 October 2023 15: 08
            12 programs per year

            If you have a part-time job, it’s not bad at all at that time - almost 400 rubles a year for 2 weeks of work. And if the main job is of course not profitable, but there is a free schedule, in general there are advantages, as well as disadvantages.
      2. +5
        3 October 2023 15: 30
        Quote: kalibr
        In Kuibyshevskaya the population was larger and there they paid me 50 rubles for the transfer. But income was also deducted. There was one show a month!

        In the 70-80s, no income tax was taken from salaries up to 70 rubles. They could take a bachelor's tax or a tax on childlessness... Although:
        Payers were men (20–50 years old) and women (20–45 years old) who did not have children. The popular name for deductions is “egg tax.” It did not apply to unmarried females. Against this background, most men spoke quite seriously about gender discrimination. The rate of such deductions was strictly differentiated. Its size depended on the level of the payer’s monthly salary: For a salary above 91 rubles. — 6%. With a salary of 71–90 rubles. - 5 %. Persons whose income was less than 70 rubles were exempt from the “egg tax.” The amount of tax for the creative intelligentsia, regardless of income, also accounted for 6%.

        * * *
        With great tenacity you carry on a debate about physical and mental labor. But it would be necessary to debate about constructive labor and creative work, because physical labor was not always held in high esteem and was creative (goldsmiths, glass container receivers, etc.), and mental labor did not always imply creativity. In the USSR, too many people were involved in bureaucracy. It is unlikely that anyone will condemn the work of S.P. Korolev or talk about the work of L.I. Gaidai...
        * * *
        Today's Russia can be “proud” of its financial and speculative activities. In the USSR, such “labor” was punishable by criminal punishment...
        1. 0
          3 October 2023 16: 51
          Quote: ROSS 42
          Today's Russia can be “proud” of its financial and speculative activities. In the USSR, such “labor” was punishable by criminal punishment...

          I knew one counterfeiter whose sentence was reduced for sharing the secrets of his craft and helping to strengthen the security of our banknotes. Any work in certain conditions is in demand if a master does it!
          1. +1
            3 October 2023 17: 00
            Quote: kalibr
            I knew one counterfeiter whose sentence was reduced for sharing the secrets of his craft and helping to strengthen the security of our banknotes.

            Did they give you half the execution? wink
            In Riga during Soviet times there was an internal museum of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
            The counterfeiter made what appears to be a quarter in the chamber. They couldn't tell the difference from the real thing. Shot.
            1. 0
              3 October 2023 17: 58
              Quote: There was a mammoth
              Half the execution was given

              No, it was after 1995, when the death penalty had already been abolished.
  6. +2
    3 October 2023 12: 20
    Vyacheslav Olegovich!
    Thank you!
    I found it interesting to read!

    In your personal opinion, in some places you embellish the past. Sometimes you overpraise yourself. But it's interesting to read.

    Please don't get old and angry even when responding to harsh comments from commenters!
    And... Maybe we, commentators, should pour our thoughts onto the keyboard a little more slowly?
    The author has a lot of publications. For some I want to... beat him with words. But almost everyone agrees with some.
    Not? Not this way?
    1. -1
      3 October 2023 14: 41
      Quote from Fangaro
      Maybe we, commentators, should splash out our thoughts on the keyboard a little more slowly?

      Dear Roman! The idea you expressed, in my opinion, should be written down in GOLDEN LETTERS on the tablets of the Military Review. I personally only dream about this. As for everything else, time takes its toll, of course, the bile in the body increases. But I fight this to the best of my ability. I would really like to hope that you will notice this.
    2. 0
      3 October 2023 14: 43
      Quote from Fangaro
      Don't get old and angry even when responding to harsh comments from commenters!

      I will try!
    3. 0
      3 October 2023 14: 49
      Quote from Fangaro
      In your personal opinion, in some places you embellish the past.

      I try not to do this.
  7. +2
    3 October 2023 12: 30
    Quote: Ivan Ivanych Ivanov
    That is, you think that 40 rubles. Is this normal for a 30-minute live TV show?

    Well, it seems like the average monthly salary of a cleaning lady was. Or a few days of plowing in a factory. What's easier?


    IRS
    This is 73-77 years. The cleaning lady makes 80 a month. The worker at the factory depended on the factory and the worker. It could go from 150 to 280. Not in the 2nd or 3rd price zone and in ordinary, in my understanding of that age, factories.
    1. +1
      3 October 2023 16: 41
      Typically, factory cleaners worked at one and a half times the rate. Mother-in-law in the 70-80s for 120 rubles. I cleaned both my carpentry shop and the neighboring electric car shop
      1. +1
        3 October 2023 18: 05
        Quote: Richard
        Typically, factory cleaners worked at one and a half times the rate. Mother-in-law in the 70-80s for 120 rubles. I cleaned both my carpentry shop and the neighboring electric car shop

        Today, my daughter worked as a manager of a cleaning company that worked with a meat processing plant. She had about 30 cleaners and janitors subordinate to her. And many of them worked three jobs and even drove to work... in a Lexus. Not all, but some for sure. In the morning until 8.00 at the plant, from 8.30 at the nearby Magnit store, then somewhere else, then again Magnit, somewhere, and already at 19.00 again at the meat processing plant, when work ended there at 18.00. And they really got a lot. Although there was work at the plant... the entire floor was covered in blood, and... and it was necessary to wash the walls up to 1,5 m high with a special compound, not to mention the floors!
  8. +4
    3 October 2023 19: 23
    So I constantly ask myself, if Shpakovsky suddenly starts writing about dinosaurs, will they also remember that he was a lecturer at the regional party committee?
    As for part-time jobs, I also worked for weeks without days off and for years without vacations when I had to feed my family. I don't see anything wrong with this.
    1. +2
      3 October 2023 19: 38
      Question to the author, you write - “The reindeer walker is not mine. From UT. But I made it,” you probably experienced it more than once, I would like to find out in more detail and compare it with Chebyshev’s plantigrade machine.
    2. +1
      3 October 2023 19: 39
      Question to the author, you write what you did with a “reindeer walker”, you probably experienced it more than once, I would like to find out in more detail and compare it with Chebyshev’s plantigrade machine.
      1. 0
        3 October 2023 21: 00
        Quote: agond
        I would like to find out in more detail and compare it with Chebyshev’s plantigrade machine.

        I'll write!
    3. +1
      3 October 2023 20: 31
      Quote: 3x3zsave
      that he was a lecturer at the regional party committee?

      Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.
      Eleanor Roosevelt
      1. -1
        3 October 2023 21: 34
        Do you think it’s fair to receive a salary for lying? When have you lied? At lectures to students? Or when you write anti-Soviet propaganda now? How about changing your shoes to 180?
        1. -1
          4 October 2023 07: 19
          Quote from mixail sherbakov
          When have you ever lied? During lectures to students?

          You are funny, though. And stupid! Why does it matter what the lecturer thinks? What matters is what he says. And working as a teacher of the history of the CPSU and a lecturer of the Republic of Kazakhstan and OK, one could only say “for” and very sincerely, because people quickly recognize falsehood in words. And the lectures had to be interesting, otherwise they wouldn’t invite you to the factories and you would lose your reliable income. So I didn't shoot myself in the foot. He was faithful, faithful, devoted, devoted, and did everything that the Central Committee told us to do! So I received my salary for high-quality implementation of the party line. Another thing is that this line itself was built on lies and is crooked, but that’s not my fault. I didn't invent it.
          1. +3
            4 October 2023 07: 43
            small minds discuss people.

            You are funny, though. And stupid!

            How can one rise to the level of a sincere fighter for banknotes!
            1. +1
              4 October 2023 10: 50
              Quote: Aviator_
              How can one rise to the level of a sincere fighter for banknotes!

              Does that mean you are a fighter for the idea, 100% unmercenary? The legend is fresh, but hard to believe.
              But you wrote about the wrong thing. Here's what's important: And working as a teacher of the history of the CPSU and a lecturer of the Republic of Kazakhstan and OK, one could only say “for” and very sincerely, because people quickly recognize falsehood in words. And the lectures had to be interesting, otherwise they wouldn’t invite you to the factories and you would lose your reliable income. And when a person doesn’t understand this, what else can he be called?
              1. 0
                4 October 2023 19: 24
                Does that mean you are a fighter for the idea, 100% unmercenary? The legend is fresh, but hard to believe.
                True. I have already written how my father, even in kindergarten, showed me the cockpits of the Il-28, both the navigator’s and the pilot’s. Since then I learned and have been involved in aviation. This is my idea. And you have it too - party work, which your mother taught you to do. Everything comes from childhood.
          2. 0
            4 October 2023 13: 14
            "What does it matter what the lecturer thinks? What matters is what he says."
            If a lecturer teaches mathematics, chemistry or physics, then yes - it absolutely does not matter what he thinks. It is completely different to teach social sciences and at the same time “keep a fig in your pocket.” Somehow this is not very decent...
            “And one could only say “for” and very sincerely, because people quickly recognize falsehood in words.” - do you really sincerely think that students were not able to recognize the falsehood in your “sincere” words (since you yourself do not believe in what you are telling them)? Don't flatter yourself)
          3. -1
            6 October 2023 08: 52
            P - opportunism. B - unscrupulousness.
    4. +1
      3 October 2023 22: 22
      Is there a dinosaur party? And what is their hierarchy?
      1. +2
        3 October 2023 22: 30
        Well, let's just say I try to follow paleontology. She, in my distant childhood, brought me into history. How to refuse attention from your “alma mater”?
        1. +2
          3 October 2023 22: 45
          I'm trying to keep up with paleobotany a bit. But it's too far away.

          When the starting point is the last glaciation, you can still try to put together a mosaic.
          1. +2
            3 October 2023 22: 59
            I'm trying to keep up with paleanthology. Although this is also very difficult. And it is incredibly distant from the era that interests me
    5. +1
      4 October 2023 13: 25
      So I constantly ask myself, if Shpakovsky suddenly starts writing about dinosaurs, will they also remember that he was a lecturer at the regional party committee?

      Well, if he describes the shortcomings of the USSR, then yes.
  9. +1
    3 October 2023 21: 23
    For a teacher from the Department of History of the CPSU, the author was still a bug! In those days, he thought of demanding a kickback from the director of a department store.)) So such clever worms with party cards undermined the Union, in the morning rubbing students in for communism and ideals, and in the afternoon trying to spin murky schemes.
    1. 0
      4 October 2023 07: 23
      Well, just one blouse bought in a special store would not have made the USSR fall apart...That’s how everyone lived then. They got it out as best they could. As Arkady Raikin said: “through the warehouse manager, merchandiser, back Cyrillic...”. The system was vicious, you understand!
      1. +2
        4 October 2023 07: 49
        Everyone lived like that back then. They got it out as best they could.
        There's no need to talk about everyone. That the author personally lived this way, “sincerely” promoting “the only true teaching,” is true.
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          4 October 2023 10: 48
          Quote: Aviator_
          No need to talk about everyone

          Of course, Sergei, there were also absolutely honest ones. But they didn’t play any role in ’91, did they?
          1. 0
            4 October 2023 18: 48
            But they didn’t play any role in ’91 either.
            Naturally, they didn’t play when “Mind, Honor and Conscience of Our Era” didn’t address them, but went beyond the humps to Foros. There was an opportunity to change the situation 30 years ago, but it was not possible. I say this as a participant in the Moscow demonstration on May 1, 1993 (I haven’t attended for 21 years, since school), and the events of October 1993.
      2. -2
        6 October 2023 08: 55
        The idea of ​​a kickback from the director of a department store never occurred to anyone. And a small lie gives birth to a big one.
      3. -4
        6 October 2023 08: 57
        People like you made it vicious, from the pulpit rubbing in about Marxism-Leninism, and after lectures shopping from the backyard.
  10. 0
    4 October 2023 12: 17
    Quote: kalibr
    in a factory these people are part of the production process,

    One drop of water can establish that there is an ocean.
    1. +1
      4 October 2023 18: 53
      One drop of water can establish that there is an ocean.
      It is forbidden. There are scale effects that operate in large dimensions but do not operate in small ones. For example, on a drop you will never know the peculiarities of wind wave formation; surface tension will not allow it. Apart from the chemical composition, it is impossible to find out anything at all.
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        4 October 2023 20: 21
        Quote: kalibr
        I'll write!

        The interest is caused by the fact that I once wondered whether, on the basis of Chebyshev’s stop-walking machine, it would be possible to assemble a “ski bike for snow” in which pairs of supports on the left and right connected by skis would alternately move; according to Chebyshev, diagonal supports would move alternately. I think the use of the “reindeer walker” scheme should simplify and facilitate the design,
  11. +1
    6 October 2023 04: 58
    It’s interesting to me. Did the author work somewhere? For real. Seriously. To me, he’s just an ordinary flyer. That’s what they were called in the USSR, which he didn’t like. And even now he grabs at any hack job. Moreover, the food supply is much wider compared to the hardworking Middle Ages.
  12. 0
    6 October 2023 04: 58
    It’s interesting to me. Did the author work somewhere? For real. Seriously. To me, he’s just an ordinary flyer. That’s what they were called in the USSR, which he didn’t like. And even now he grabs at any hack job. Moreover, the food supply is much wider compared to the hardworking Middle Ages.