Human, intellectual and spiritual resource for Russia

Many thanks to the guests of the Military Review website for actively discussing the article “TOP-10 of National Ideas for Russia (Russia). As you most well understood, the goal was not to mix everything in a pile and throw you a vinaigrette, say, choose, but to show what, or rather what ideas and beliefs, Russian people live after 1991.
I liked the commentary of “Ascetic” (Stanislav), who developed the idea further, to a little known notion state capitalism based on the idea of ​​national socialism. Personally, I think this direction is true only from the side. And I wonder why “Ascetic”, enumerating three tangible blows to the Russian statehood and our Orthodox Faith, did not reach the “concept” state capitalism based on the idea of ​​Christian socialism? Sounds scary and unscientific? Now everything is in order. Anyway, political science and economics textbooks provide answers only within the walls of the audience, and other rules work in life.

Is it possible to escape from the West to Russia?

Yesterday, an interesting article was published on the website “Military Review” titled: “ What has America turned political correctness? ”In principle, everything that we have long known. But I definitely recommend to read it. Since the material presented there as a “collection” of examples of the new inquisition of the 21 century, is shocking to the average person. If someone thinks that it will bypass us, because we have other traditions and genes, is deeply mistaken. We are now approximately as Europe at the start of the 90. “Ascetic” perfectly showed it yesterday in the comments in the topic national ideas: the first, second and third blow to the Orthodox faith and the Fatherland. As a result, the spiritual connection with generations has been considerably destroyed, but it can be restored. You need a lot of like-minded people and ordinary believers, and those who want to return simply to family values ​​and just go to work, raise children.

Analyzing the growing political correctness in the West, their methods of introduction into society, one cannot see how the society reacts to them. I not agrees with the thought that 100% of Western society is all swallowing. Yes, the fact that the legs are able to cope up there, we know from stories. Modern, Law and respect for him ... But not everyone out there reconciles with such orders. I do not believe that normal family and religious people, who know what it is: black and white, have disappeared there. Even just on the basis of the laws of mathematics. But they cannot offer resistance either. The difference between ours and Western society is that their liberalism is approved and fixed at a fundamental legislative level. We have so far, talk about legislative support: asocial, immoral and anti-ethical elements, conducted at a rudimentary level. Russia can be a new light for the migration of Christians and normal people.

[Center]

But examples of resistance, or rather timid attempts ... Minor "successes" of normal people in Germany in resisting liberalism, not to look nervous!!!:



Orthodox will not understand?

The main condition for people who just want to raise children without promoting homosexuality, violence, bestiality and persecution for the Christian faith - is adoption of Orthodoxy, christianity eastern rite. This is a fair price, given that they will realize that their Protestantism, Catholicism, and Baptism betrayed when they allowed the marriage of men to men, women to women. If someone thinks and fears that only devotees go to us, and scientists and engineers remain in the decaying West, then I will disappoint, first, people of technical sciences, professors of science and medicine, not only mathematical and medical analysis, but also familiar with the humanities, classics. I don’t think they would like children to grow up in such liberal conditions in the Western world. And secondly, they can be taken from the signature in a kind of patriotic act of "family values".

Nationalists will not understand?

Of course, a difficult question will lie in the language plane and places of settlement. The good of the place is enough, the whole of Siberia, is it not to be settled by the Chinese and Islamists? Another question is whether there will be enclaves, or mixed settlements? Russian will be necessarily the language of international communication. At the same time, the borders will be tightened and strengthened. Of course, the Russian nationalists will accept such an idea with hostility, and perhaps not only they, but ...
Through 15-20, Russia’s years in Europe will culturally and mentally confront territories under the abstract name:

Germany, the Netherlands, France, Belgium, Denmark, England ... there is no difference.
The nationalists of European countries will never come to power in their countries by legal means, with the exception of internal administrative lands, where there may be a little more. The moment is already missed at the beginning of 2000's .. Who will shed blood for the liberation of Europe? After all, there are agreements on cooperation between the nationalists of European countries with the Russian? We will have enough problems by that time, if we don’t change anything.

Strictly limited migration

It is also worth noting, and it is very important that millions of people from the West will not come to us, it is enough for us, and so it will be from 300 thousands to 1 million people. This is in any case better than the 100 of thousands of Muslims who today supposedly have traditional Islam, and tomorrow there may suddenly be another version of Islam, as the imam in the mosque says. It is possible to dose out migration from the West to our country, not randomly.
For the most successful model implementation, the integration of Belarus and Ukraine to the level of at least a confederation is necessary. Then the melting pot will flatten (Slavonic) people who came for the Russian dream: a house, a vegetable garden, clean air, happy children and fried potatoes with cucumbers. You can already directly score in the advertising booklet.

ProspectsIf the model is implemented: state capitalism based on the idea of ​​Christian socialism:

1. Solving a demographic problem and settling a country (or do you think maternity capital will solve all problems?)
2. Christianization of the country by the Orthodox Faith and the reduction of the influence of the Islamic factor
3. Economic growth, it will just be natural.
4. We put an end to the consumer society in Russia in the spiritual sense.
5. The center of the correct concept of the word Civilization, - Russia


But that it was all. In addition to the signal to the World that we are open to bright people, we need to come to this ourselves. I am glad that Lady Gaga booed at a concert in St. Petersburg, when she tried to teach our children life, namely boys to love boys, and girls - girls ... So all is not lost ...
But I would like them to go to such concerts:



Well, that's it, this essay is mine, I expect a bunch of minuses, since the article will be relevant at least by 2023 year ...

Comments

[Sakhalininsk]

The most important thing is that from ancient times peoples living on the territory of Russia should remain by themselves and not try to accept the traditions of the West that are destructive for us. We have our own culture, our historical path of development, which is not comparable with the historical path of Western civilization.
Undoubtedly, the West has its own advantages that it would be nice to adopt, but for the most part, what they consider to be achievements in the West is the most common sadomy that is not needed and should not be on our land.

[Feanor]

Of course, we must remain ourselves, because with the pro-Western way, we can slide into the fact that homosexuality and bestiality can be generally in the order of things, we do not need such prospects ...

[S_mirnov]

Since we want to remain "by ourselves" then what for us "Strictly limited migration" ... "We have enough, and so it will be from 300 thousand to 1 million people." Those. there is no need to improve the lives of our citizens, can you bring others from abroad? - on this issue I do not agree with the author.
"The main condition for people who just want to raise children without promoting homosexuality, violence, bestiality and persecution for the Christian faith is acceptance of Orthodoxy" - and stop poking people with different religions, like there are no normal people without Orthodoxy? In my opinion, Orthodoxy, on the contrary, cripples people, especially children, raising out of them obedient sheep or, according to the Biblical, "lambs of God" or "servants of God." Probably many people like to be slaves, but I was raised as a free person and so I intend to remain! I believe that it is normal when a person takes responsibility for his own life upon himself, and does not write off everything on God's providence. We ourselves are the smiths of our own happiness! And if someone thinks that the rocket will not reach space, if the pop does not sprinkle water on it, then for me this is a slide into the Middle Ages.
"The Synodal Department for Cooperation with the Ministry of Defense and Law Enforcement Agencies, chaired by Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov, continues to develop a new system of spiritual care for military personnel.

Shepherds will interact with the military at the highest level: the Russian Orthodox Church presented candidates for the position of senior priest of the Ministry of Defense, who will actually become the confessor of Sergei Shoigu.

Assistant D. Smirnov Konstantin Sergeyev said that the senior priest of the Ministry of Defense will also become the personal confessor of the minister. The church leader will be able to count on his own cabinet in the military department, he will be allowed to attend all meetings, as well as help the minister make decisions. “This is happening in all Western armies, including the USA and Great Britain,” * said Sergeyev.

Representatives of the Russian Orthodox Church are not embarrassed by the fact that S. Shoigu is a Tuvan by nationality and a Buddhist by religion. The Minister of Defense has already been asked to build a house church next to his office. "

[valokordin]

Well, if Shoigu is not baptized, put in the Ministry of Defense a pagoda, in the headquarters, where the head of the Tatar is a mosque, and in the military synagogue. What a stupid thing.

[Oleg1986]

Shoigu is actually baptized. Considers the Monk Sergius as his patron. Stupidity - to distort the main message of the whole correct article. The only thing is that it’s not Islam itself. A sincere believer will never go against a foreign religion - otherwise no one will respect your own. And those migrants who are coming to us now, they generally forgot about their roots, and religion is not the point.

[vadimN]

Quote: S_mirnov

and stop poking people with different religions, like without Orthodoxy there are no normal people?

In recent years, we have been increasingly sliding into the dark Middle Ages ... Sometimes, I just want to shout: Enough of us to make God's servants out of us! Whoever needs it will go to the temple himself. But do not drag there by force all the others who consider themselves to be an atheist or a devotee of a different religion ... Other figures here are already ready to deny the Russian person the right to be called Russian if he does not adhere to the Orthodox faith!
We live in a secular state, and this is precisely the guarantee of interfaith harmony. Enough to make Orthodox Iran out of Russia.

[Ross]

vadimN,

Enough already to make us servants of God! Whoever needs it will go to the temple himself. But do not drag there by force all the others who consider themselves an atheist or a devotee of a different religion ...

ser86
And without Orthodoxy there are normal people, trampling Orthodoxy you are trampling the path to other religions

I would like to bring the discussion to one denominator. The problem in my opinion is different Worldview.
Religion is the invention of people when they worship a miracle. Look at the Bible - everything is there about the wonders of the saints.
But Jesus and other Saints came for another purpose, in order to convey to the person the truth about his true goals, to tell who we really are. Because Jesus never wanted to create any religious teachings. These are already some selfish people who have used his name.
Therefore, if someone considers himself outside of religion, but recognizes the ideas of Jesus and other teachers of mankind, why is the Russian Orthodox Church obligatory for him? Is the goal to build a religious power?
Or maybe, in fact, we all want to return to the origins of the clan-family, previously revered in Russia? When were grandfathers and fathers and children honored brought up by those who already had wisdom and dignity for this? Then the children have a natural respect for the elderly (wise) people and then the children (and not the state) take care of their parents. Then there are no problems with the number of children in the family and enemy propaganda is not terrible. Look at the Caucasian and Cossack traditions of the family, after all, when we had Russians like that. And it was from this that the information war began - with the destruction of the family-clan tradition. Figuratively, the roots were torn out of a tree.
About Christianity in Russia. Imagine: growing an old oak. Then people come and cut it under the root and plant an oak (date (figuratively) figurative) tree in these oak roots. It will turn out a hybrid, and not an oak or a date palm.
We now need a serious update of spiritual books and traditions of the past. After all, in fact, people do not believe in abstract religion, but in specific priests or mullahs, Buddhist lamas, etc. Because in the soul a person seeks a spiritual path for himself and is eager to find an example for this.

[ser86]

And without Orthodoxy there are normal people, trampling Orthodoxy you are trampling the path to other religions
On the contrary, many believe that if we return to the roots of the rocket themselves will fly into space with pride in our ancestors))
Just for Russia to remain whole, an idea is needed, this idea must be either one for all peoples or each has its own

[grig1969]

There is generally a simple and obvious, without visible minuses way to solve the demographic problem and, at the same time, the pension problem. Here on this site http://akparov.ru/rojdaemost everything is stated in quite some detail. I highly recommend reading and talking on this topic - why such a system is not driven? Do not know about her? So let's bring these things to the appropriate persons !!!

[vadimN]

Quote: grig1969

There is generally a simple and obvious, without visible minuses way to solve the demographic problem and, at the same time, the pension problem. Here on this site http://akparov.ru/rojdaemost everything is stated in quite some detail. I highly recommend reading and talking on this topic - why such a system is not driven?

The system is basically correct and interesting. With certain modifications, it will give the desired effect.
The only problem is that nobody in our ruling circles needs this effect.
The existing pension system solves the main strategic task. And not the one for which the pension system exists, but the one that our rulers don’t speak about publicly: systems for squeezing money out of business and limiting birth rates. The current system successfully solves this strategic task. Everything else is aimed at solving the old problem - eroding the Russian ethnic group, replacing it with a dull, obedient, easily controlled mass of newcomers. More than the current government does not need anything.

[vostok1982]

The West has become destructive for the West itself.

[starshina78]

I completely agree with you! But I would like to add the following. Those who have children under the age of 14, grandchildren, will understand me. We practically lost them in the sense that they watch more cartoons produced by Disney or Japanese, and our Russian or Soviet ones do not seduce them. They can also watch about Alyosha Popovich, Ilya Muromets or Dobrynya, but they are not interested in others, and they do not understand at all about the kind Soviet cartoons, from which they could not tear us away. What is the tragedy? You will immediately understand if you watch at least one American cartoon on the Walt Disney channel or 2 + 2. This is rubbish! These cartoons, filmed on their morality, are evil, there are no examples of kindness, evil wins there and the negative character, sometimes, looks preferable than the positive one. the danger of these cartoons, and even children's films, is that anger appears in children, a rejection of kindness is developed (it is associated with weakness - a weak person is not a tenant, according to their films). Maybe it is from here that anger and cruelty appear in our children, which is manifested in the videos on the Yu - tuba. Where are our new cartoons? Children's films, which from time immemorial taught kindness, help the weak, love for the Motherland, developed a sense of patriotism. Why is there no program in the state to create films, cartoons about our heroes (those that exist are a drop). They need to be filmed ten pieces a year and shown on all channels, and channels showing American bad films and cartoons should be taxed and transferred to cable. May kindness, love for the Motherland, patriotism and other useful feelings for the state develop in children along with these films and cartoons. Otherwise, wherever you go or American films, magazines have hidden advertising of the American way of life in articles about their actors, singers, historical stories, and the rest of the rubbish.

[Storyteller]

It's not all bad. You just have to sit down with your child and watch a cartoon of how a mouse and a cat shit on each other, and then discuss. My daughter, for example, is already independently filtering shit from even American, but normal films, such as "Monsters, Inc.", "Shrek" or "Ice Age". She sees there real friendship, family, and evil in different forms. And she takes the side she needs. Also computer games. Recently I come up and play some kind of hack online. Monsters of some sort run into her - she chops them. Then I looked, the wolf was sitting, not moving. She jumps up to him - crack, crack - a wolf to shreds. I wonder: "Why are you him, he didn't attack you?" He answers: "Some points go for him." I begin to tell the story that this wolf went to the store for bread for his cubs, hungry, tired, sat down to rest, and you - to pieces. The cubs will probably die of hunger now. Brought to tears. I fell out of love with this game. As for Soviet films and cartoons, the series about the dwarf Vasya and the brownie Kuzya are favorites. And take our Smesharikov or Masha and the Bear? ... Not all is lost!
As for Orthodoxy. I hope you will not deny that it is Orthodoxy, as the most orthodox branch of Christianity, that consistently defends the Spirit and the Letter of the Teachings of Christ, not allowing different interpretations of morality. The ROC here is just a structure that does not allow these ideas to disappear or transform. It must be said that the activities of the Russian Orthodox Church are so effective that the society is already beginning to discuss the project of "red Christianity", which makes atheists out of simple atheists who live according to the Commandments. And this is already a huge step forward. Indeed, for a modern person, it is not at all necessary to accompany the perception of correct ideas with a demonstration of miracles. For him, the main thing is that moral principles should be set out as fully, accurately and logically, and in this area Orthodoxy has no competitors. It is possible that as a result people will come to God and the Kingdom of Heaven will come. Many scientists, for example, are already convinced that many things, in particular the origin of life, were possible only through the Providence of God.

[Asgard]

About Culture ...
... blya in the most exact place you got. The first three letters from emotions (forgive the scoundrel))
The cult of "Ra" -sun, is not welcome on the planet. Lunar cults flourish, all sorts of secret knowledge, occult orders, films are made about vampires. The wolf-noble animal is plowed with "stamps" ... all sorts of perverts (fagots, lesbians, maniacs, anime and fakes are rastatured)) Lady Gaga (although she is far from a lady)) we have a Bulgarian Filya (painted and constantly pregnant))) and so in everything .....
.... to take the same story with the "Depardieu" passport, locksmiths and mothers-heroines from the CIS countries cannot get a passport in their HOMELAND, although they are fair-skinned and of Slavic appearance ..........., and then he didn't even write a statement, he just declared and wrote a piece of paper right there, and even - according to the law, Gerard did not pass the minimum in the Russian language ???
How can such a president restore the Great Country?!? OPEN EYES .... These are the things that the President should do. These are clown affairs.
Everything around Fake and verbiage, we began to live thanks to loans, and not a rising economy. You look around - the Police, a huge number of Security (watchmen)) office workers, shops and chocks-perkupschiki- all not a production sphere. Nothing is done, the question is, WHERE does the money come from? And the most important QUESTION - How long will it go on ???

K U L T U R A...

[COBOK]

Right...

[Ross]

Asgard,
I support! Wise observation.

[andrei332809]

The intellectual and spiritual resource is children. if only education is not completely ruined. while there are literate parents in their families who teach their children in addition to the school. but the time is not far off when already modern children will become parents. and if education also completely falls on the Western rails ... I can’t even imagine what will happen.

[Orik]

They will ruin, the president has already waved the law on education for the new year. They need obedient, limited people.

[S_mirnov]

"They need obedient, limited people" - and they got them, only they did not take into account that it is easy to manage limited people not only for the Kremlin, but in general for any forces with will and money. I think this is where the modern regime will burn. But the consequences will have to be cleared up by the citizens of Russia.

[GG2012]

Quote: S_mirnov

it’s easy to manage limited people not only to the Kremlin, but generally to any forces that have the will and money

I completely agree with the statement.
And you also need to remember the favorite formula of Christians: "He who does not recognize Christ is the enemy of Russia." As a result, all sober-minded Slavs (those who did not manage to shit their brains with Jewish fairy tales) will be automatically recorded as homosexuals, zoophiles, etc. and will begin to squeeze out administratively and psychologically from work, from places of residence, from kindergarten, from school and university.
In schools and universities, the main subject will be ... naturally Christian studies. Well then! After all, without it, gas does not burn, the train does not go and the plane does not fly.
And the process is already running ( http://mir24.tv/news/society/5823902 ).
It remains only to get the right for the ROC to appoint rectors and vice-rectors at universities, and the power over Education will become comprehensive.
In military universities, that soldier will be a good one who best of all ass kisses his hand and has learned the best catechism of the Christian.

After all, it took place in 1917! No, it doesn’t work.
The winner is the one who fights better, and not the one who prays more, or who has a thicker pop!

[ser86]

Well, if a person comes to work, he starts spitting bile on all the Jews whom he hasn’t seen in his eyes, telling tales and counting everyone who disagrees with the cattle - this will definitely be fired

[Aaron Zawi]

GG2012
I’m like an atheist, but if I don’t confuse, but according to many sources, Dmitry Donskoy and Dmitry Pozharsky and Alexander Suvorov were truly lying people, which did not prevent them from being good warriors?

[GG2012]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

were truly lying people, what did not stop them from being good warriors?

I remember from history that the wars of the Khazar Kaganate were faithfully believers, but this did not save them from defeat by Prince Svyatoslav, who was not a faithful believer, but he relied on KNOWLEDGE, not on FAITH!

If religion gave strength ?! So no! Pure talk and a little psychotherapeutic effect!

[ser86]

And what do you know about Prince Svyatoslav? What do the holy Indian Vedas say? tell us please)

[ser86]

right in the bullseye))

[vadimN]

Quote: Orik

the president has already waved the law on education for the new year. They need obedient, limited people.

And in this matter they have already succeeded pretty much. Here is a small but clear REAL example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dsi55vRmLXU&feature=player_embedded

[sergo0000]

Nevsky

will be relevant at least by 2023 ...

WHY SAME !?
The article is relevant now. But is it worth it to impose our Orthodoxy on them !? You will not be forcibly sweet!
The church in my opinion should be outside the state. And generally it does not seem to you that faith is a purely personal matter. !? And radicalism in any course, just like nationalism, needs to be burned with a hot iron!
If the state is secular, it simply cannot be otherwise.

[iulai]

all is true, but the state must love its citizens so that citizens love the state. Putin signed a gas agreement with Belarus, the price for their domestic consumption is equal to the price of gas for the population of the Yamalo-Nenets okrug. Why love a ruler who humiliates his people? so that people behave with dignity, rulers should behave the same.

[sergo0000]

iulai,
In my opinion, you confuse government policy with your mom.
A state, by definition, cannot love its citizens. There are individuals at the helm of power. The whole question is who and what are their moral principles and how much these individuals love their homeland.
And to make people in power respect us, in my opinion it is completely in our power.
And people in power can well make decisions that are strange for you personally and if you think further and more broadly, they are completely explainable and ultimately useful for the nation as a whole.

[Nick]

Quote: sergo0000

And people in power can well make decisions that are strange for you personally and if you think further and more broadly, they are completely explainable and ultimately useful for the nation as a whole.

Maybe this is not clear to everyone, but it is absolutely true.
V. Vysotsky said about the same thing like this, "The giraffe is big, he knows better ..."

[Ross]

sergo0000,

But is it worth it to impose our Orthodoxy on them !? You will not be forcibly sweet!
The church in my opinion should be outside the state. And generally it does not seem to you that faith is a purely personal matter. !?

All is correct. From the history of Christianity, they are always at all times imposed their faith, because their foundation is not the enlightenment of man, as for example in the Eastern religions, but blind worship and coming.
Therefore, I believe that you are indiscriminately right, only a secular state and equal rights to all religious organizations.

[Fox]

in crap, prostitution is legal .... and they feed animals.

[fenix57]

Gloomy somehow. Although: "The main condition for people who simply want to raise children without promoting homosexuality, violence, bestiality and persecution for the Christian faith is the adoption of Orthodoxy, Christianity of the Eastern Rite" ... "For the most successful implementation of the model, the integration of Belarus and Ukraine is necessary to the level of at least a confederation. "- that's right.

[Kaa]

Quote: fenix57

integration of Belarus and Ukraine to the level of at least a confederation is needed

The process goes on, but with a creak. "President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych considers it expedient to adapt national legislation to those norms of the Customs Union that will not contradict Ukraine's international obligations. He stated this in an interview with Komsomolskaya Pravda in Ukraine. The head of state noted that Ukraine is looking for tools and opportunities for mutually beneficial cooperation with The Customs Union. "I believe that Ukraine should consider the possibility of adapting those norms of the Customs Union in the national legislation that would not contradict our international obligations. Now experts from both sides are working on this issue, "he said. According to him, it was planned that by December 18, during V. Yanukovych's working visit to Moscow, the parties would prepare specific proposals." But the meeting had to be postponed to a later date. for the fact that the experts have not yet been able to agree on all the nuances of future agreements, "Yanukovich noted. 04.01.2013/00/55 791660:XNUMX http://news.liga.net/news/politics/XNUMX-yanukovich_gotov_adaptirovat_zakony_k_
normam_tamozhennogo_soyuza.htm
But Ukrainian society is divided, and an attempt to "wave the sword" in this matter can be expensive. We have many such "prophets"
“The countries that have joined the Customs Union will lose their sovereignty and become subjects of the Russian Federation,” said Grigory Perepelitsa, professor of the Department of International Relations and Foreign Policy at the Taras Shevchenko National University, on the air of Ukrainian Radio.

“Russia got a chance to reproduce itself in a new form. It will not be the Soviet Union, but it will be the Russian Union. The first form, the first step of this is the Customs Union. In the new Russian state there will be no sovereignty of countries, and there will be only Russian sovereignty. Everyone who enters the Customs Union will become subjects of the Russian Federation, just as the Ukrainian People’s Republic once became the Soviet Socialist Republic, ”said Perepelitsa.
According to him, Ukraine in the Customs Union will also lose sovereignty.
“We have two choices: either keep our independence, or lose it by joining the Customs Union, and then into the Russian integration association.” Http://mytime.net.ua/news/2013/01/2013-01- 03-137.htm At the same time, few people understand that the longed-for and mythical accession to the EU also deprives the country of some of its sovereignty. "Little do we work with young people, do you panic ..."

[Egoza]

Quote: Kaa

According to him, Ukraine in the Customs Union will also lose sovereignty.

Found someone to listen to! But is Ukraine independent now? And Shevchenko University has long had the mark of a university training nationalists, as well as the Kiev-Mohyla Academy

[Kaa]

Quote: Egoza

Found someone to listen to!

Аltera parte audire sit! Their students also hung out in 2004 on the Maidan, but about the "grave" - ​​do not sprinkle salt on the wounds ... the highest caste, mlyn ...

[aksakal]

Everything seems to be good ... But the sediment remains -)))))). Why are the possible and hypothetical emigration of the Geyrope people so excited? And emphasized are not happy about the emigration of Muslims? Oh yes, high culture! Yes, I completely forgot ... Yesterday, Italian Milan refused to play out a friendly match because of the high culture of Italian fans. This high culture of theirs is very consonant with the high culture of St. Petersburg fans - they somehow voiced it on their website ...
Well ... Yes, we Muslims, of course, got off the trees only the day before yesterday, excuse me, but since we got off, let's solve this segregation by religion somehow. Or speak directly - do not bother. Be men - do not like the Tatars and Caucasians because of their faith? Sound, be men. Be peasants in the sense of - be prepared for the consequences of such direct scoring.
Well, good advice to Amers - they want to win, so let them carefully consider this vyser and make conclusions where to beat. It will be very effective, I guarantee.
And now at least get the hang of it, especially since I already did it! Article minus !. It's my opinion.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: aksakal

Why are the possible and hypothetical emigration of the Geyrope people so excited? And emphasized are not happy about the emigration of Muslims? Oh yes, high culture!

Is there no people left there? There are normal people who are sick of everything that happens.

Quote: aksakal

Well ... Yes, we Muslims, of course, got off the trees only the day before yesterday, excuse me, but since we got off, let's solve this segregation by religion somehow. Or speak directly - do not bother. Be men - do not like the Tatars and Caucasians because of their faith? Sound, be men. Be peasants in the sense of - be prepared for the consequences of such direct scoring.

Aksakal, maybe I didn’t finish you, but on the first reading you wrote such Nonsense that it would be better if you didn’t write anything.

Quote: aksakal

And now at least get the hang of it, especially since I already did it! Article minus !. It's my opinion

The article is plus, but you are minus !!! It's my opinion.

[aksakal]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Aksakal, maybe I didn’t finish you, but on the first reading you wrote such Nonsense that it would be better if you didn’t write anything.

- catching up is easy. We quote: Of course, a difficult question will lie in the linguistic plane and places of settlement. The good of space is enough, the whole of Siberia, is it possible to populate the Chinese and the Islamists? Another question is whether these will be enclaves, or mixed settlements? The Russian language will be the language of international communication. At the same time, borders will be tightened and strengthened. Of course, Russian nationalists will perceive such an idea with hostility, and maybe not only them, but - Now I explain verbatim. In general, Siberia has its own indigenous population - the Khakasses. By the way, it was proved that the Khakasses are the same Indians, who were almost exterminated by the Anglo-Saxons on the neighboring continent, somehow got over there in due time. You are pouring mud on the Anglo-Saxons for such inhumane treatment of the Indians of America? And be proud of yourself for a much more humane attitude to the Khakass? So, for a greater reason for this pride, in fact, it would not hurt to ask the same Khakasses - do they want to see resettled Europeans at home? By the way, there are not only Khakasses, there are a bunch of other people. I am sure that out of respect for the Russian people they can answer with consent, but first you still need to ask, right? And not for them to decide.
Secondly, as for the Islamists - the Europeans are ready to populate the lands on which there are already primordial inhabitants, but the Islamists are a bummer! We do not want to see them! The trouble is that the author here does not see any differences between Muslims and Islamists - swept under one comb and poured hatred. And like people educated. For him, I’ll specially explain that the Islamists are not at all trying to populate the territory of the Russian Federation. They have a completely different goal and other tasks. They want to seize from the Russian Federation the territories inhabited by Muslims, influencing their faith and their confessional feelings. This is expansion, not settlement. And those who are exactly moving to Russia - Tajiks and others - they are not Islamists, they are Muslims. And they have neither expansionist aspirations nor aggressive goals. They just flee from a difficult share in their homeland. And all their fault according to the author of the Sabbath is only that they are of the same faith with the Islamists. But things are completely different. Or do not you see?
From such an election - that’s why I’ll be allowed to populate, and this - no, I have serious suspicions that the author of the Sabzh is a latent racist. This is the first post. If you don’t like settlement at all, forbid everyone. If you still need to populate - then clearly outline the requirements for settlers. And in these requirements there should not be requirements for skin color and religion. You can enter the qualification of education in the network - those who wish to populate Russia should have such an education. Canada is doing this when faced with a shortage of technical specialists. We need a heating engineer with experience in the combined heat and power plant - prove professional suitability and knowledge of the language, and we are not interested in skin color and creed. It is unpleasant to point to Canada, but such a criterion, which the author of the Sabbath deduced, causes me even more rejection. Less to you!

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: aksakal

Siberia has its own indigenous population - the Khakass.

I am Russian!!! I was born and raised in the Far East and I am an indigenous population. You would have figured out what’s happening in Kazakhstan, and the Siberians themselves figure it out.

Quote: aksakal

I am sure that out of respect for the Russian people they can answer with consent, but first you still need to ask, right? And not for them to decide.

Do not fail in nationalism and especially not for you to decide who and what to ask !!!

Quote: aksakal

From such an election - that’s why I’ll be allowed to populate, and this - no, I have serious suspicions that the author of the Sabzh is a latent racist. This is the first post. If you don’t like settlement at all, forbid everyone.

And again especially for you-we will figure it out in our house !!!

[aksakal]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Do not fail in nationalism and especially not for you to decide who and what to ask !!!

- why let it down? In the quote above, it is written in black and white.

Quote: Alexander Romanov

And once again especially for you, we will figure it out in our house !!!

- sort it out. On the basis on which I asked you in the above posts. Do you want us to understand at home in the same way on the same basis? By the way, I did not specifically go to the recent branch, where about the Nazarbaye plans to introduce the Latin alphabet instead of the Cyrillic alphabet. I know what they wrote there and did not write to you - "we work ourselves." But already if you nipis so, will we start to understand?

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: aksakal

On the basis on which I asked you in the above posts.

This is what the United States does, it is they who do it. Your foundation is Kazakhstan, not Russia, and do whatever you want in your home.

Quote: aksakal

I know what they wrote there and did not write to you - "we work ourselves."

Well, what did I write there?

Quote: aksakal

In the quote above, it is written in black and white.

Read it again and think about what or who it is.

[aksakal]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

This is what the United States does, it is they who do it. Your foundation is Kazakhstan, not Russia, and do whatever you want in your home.

- and in general, that is why they are a very strong opponent of Russia. They did not begin to resettle their blacks to Africa, although they probably really wanted to, but they introduced them into their system and used their potential. God forbid, of course, God forbid, but if it comes to a direct military conflict with the States, then you will see a little white. And this is not only in the army. This is also in politics - Condoleezza Rice was much stronger as Secretary of State than Hilary. And in Hollywood, and in mass culture, and in pop music - in short, in all four areas - political, economic, cultural, military - the black people of the States helped them very well, for that matter.
By the way, if you really need to populate the same Siberia (although I don’t see the need for it at all, it’s more logical to provoke the birth rate of the indigenous population, the same sisbiryakov, but I’ve talked about it in the subject), which I wrote above - except for the educational and professional qualification , it would be nice to introduce a qualification for loyalty - here the willingness to leave your charter when you move to Russia where you are evicted from. Of course, except for religion. Everything else is left there.
Another qualification is readiness to assimilate. The Tajiks, so hated by the author of SABZH, who were classified by him under the category "well, do not settle with Islamists?", Are very much assimilated. I personally know from the time of the expansion of Euroset to Kazakhstan three Tajiks, whom I would never have thought of. that the Tajiks. Metrosexuals, highlighted with a manicure, as it is now fashionable in the central cities of Russia, perfectly speaking in Russian, highlighting on them sits organically, as if they were born with him, according to the grip, habits and mentality - a typical Russian man. TAJIK?????? How is a Tajik? That's what I think. Why is he so dark? I thought. something with his skin, wanted to give the address of the dermatologist! I even felt offended for the Tajiks - only one generation, and there was nothing Tajik left, except for skin color. And with the next generation, what is the thread left? With the same success, the same actor Siyatvinda may shout that he is an Ethiopian. But who will believe him? He also has something with his skin. He smokes a lot, probably.
So it’s precisely in the capacity for assimilation that I would also select. The Chinese are not assimilating. It’s they themselves who they like assimilating to themselves. Are Europeans capable of assimilation? Or will they be ready to leave their charter in Europe? -))))))))))))))) You made my slippers laugh. Rather, there will be nothing Russian left of the Russians than these moved gayropsy assimilate.

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Well, what did I write there?

- I intentionally did not go there, and accordingly, intentionally did not write. And I would have to write something like

Quote: Alexander Romanov

we will figure it out in our house !!!

. So answer the same. Moreover, I do not advise anything bad.

[Kaa]

Quote: aksakal

They did not begin to resettle their blacks in Africa

By the way, we tried. Liberia turned out, with all the ensuing consequences ...

[Storyteller]

As for the assimilation of the Chinese - I agree. And as for all the others, perhaps I do not agree. Otherwise, where would such great Russians come from, like Bering, Bellingshausen, Barclay de Tolly, Lermontov, Pushkin, and Rokossovsky, after all. Apparently, the fact is that the only nation whose name is the adjective is the Russians who are attached to Russia. Arap Hannibal, is that not Russian? What about Wasserman?
Based on this principle, we rename the Russian Muslim Tatars, who traveled to Saudi Arabia and adhered to that land, forgetting about Russia, by the Islamists. And it is they that are meant by the author.

[valokordin]

A. Romanov wrote this comment meaningfully and correctly agrees.

[Misantrop]

Quote: aksakal

And those who are exactly moving to Russia - Tajiks and others - they are not Islamists, they are Muslims. And they have neither expansionist aspirations nor aggressive goals.

Aksakal, and who, in your opinion, should divide Islam, Islamists and Muslims? Neither on the forehead, nor in the passport there are any such marks. WHO should ensure that resettlement does not turn into expansion?

[Normal]

Quote: aksakal

Be men - do not like the Tatars and Caucasians because of their faith? Sound, be men.

No, not because of their faith. I think that so-called national peculiarities are often hidden behind religion. Those who served remember that there was no religion in the army, but there were national differences. And if I don't like Caucasians, it is not because they are Muslims, but because they are constantly trying to impose their will on everyone. If I have complaints about the Tatars, it is not because they are Muslims, but because they are often unreliable and I will not go into "intelligence" with them.

[Nick]

Quote: Normal

If I have complaints about the Tatars, it is not because they are Muslims, but because they are often unreliable and I will not go into "intelligence" with them.

I won’t say anything about the Caucasians, they didn’t call them to the unit where I served, but I served side by side with the Kazan Tatars, and great guys joined the combat duty.

[Misantrop]

Quote: Nick

served as Kazan Tatars side by side, excellent guys intervened on combat duty, excellent guys.

Ask them how they relate to the same Crimean Tatars. And why...

[stranik72]

The Crimean and Kazan Tatars, in all respects, (except for religion), even in language, are completely different ethnic groups, well, what would be completely understandable was the relationship between them, as in Azerbaijanis and Armenians, in principle.

[Normal]

Quote: Nick

and served with the Kazan Tatars side by side,

I will not argue, everyone has their own experience. I got excited with intelligence, I admit. I don’t know how in battle, but in civilian life they do not inspire confidence in me. It hurts on my mind and on the individual. Do not consider me a tatarophobe. He grew up among the Khusainovs, Mukhamedzyanovs, Tataevs, Ardatovs and Khabibulins. Normal guys. But they were all born already in Russia and grew up among the Russians. But those from Tatarstan or Tatar villages are completely different.

[aksakal]

Quote: Normal

No, not because of their faith. I think that so-called national peculiarities are often hidden behind religion. Those who served remember that there was no religion in the army, but there were national differences. And if I don't like Caucasians, it is not because they are Muslims, but because they are constantly trying to impose their will on everyone. If I have complaints about the Tatars, it is not because they are Muslims, but because they are often unreliable and I will not go into "intelligence" with them.

- they simply didn’t serve the geyropets; they came across them on tour trips or at business negotiations. In these situations, they are seemingly nice people. But in the army it would come out that they do not consider Russians to be their equal. And that would be an unpleasant discovery for you. I’m afraid you will become a pronounced Europhobe after this. I came across this in the army, if that, I do not hold evil, but I inform.
It is understandable, I don’t want to hang out with those whom you think are lower than yourself (and therefore you easily find faults in them) and you want recognition of those who you think are higher than yourself (and therefore you finish them with unusual unusual noble qualities). But somehow did not try without ratings? Moreover, estimates based on the imposed scale of values ​​of the European one — if in the excavations on the territory of Asia and Russia a city was found even with a sewage system, then it was a fortification, and if there are only two houses in a dig, then it is a CITY !? Fit purely objective? Think about it.

[Normal]

Quote: aksakal

Think about it.

He didn’t serve with the gay people. He served with Lithuanians, Moldavians. Uzbeks, Vainakhs, Kazakhs, Tatars and, of course, Russians, even Koreans were.
I did not give any ratings. But gunners-operators were mainly Lithuanians. Grenade launchers (RPG-16d is the heaviest weapon in the company) - mostly from Central Asia. Caucasians scouts (half intelligence — the North Caucasus) Moldovans are cooks, boilers, pigmen, storekeepers and captains (although they were also present in the intelligence services) The unit commanders are mostly Russian from the middle lane. So national features probably exist. Peter-I was not a Turk, but he called Europeans to his service, although he beat the Europeans and did not pull the Turks. And Mehlis, when he ruled the Crimean Front, demanded that the Slavs and not the Caucasians be the headquarters.

Quote: aksakal

if in excavations on the territory of Asia and Russia a city was found even with a sewer - then a hillfort, and if there are only two houses in a dig, then a CITY !?

No one argues that the oldest cities in the USSR were in Transcaucasia and Central Asia. No one argues that the numbers are Arabic. But now the level of education and culture in Europe is slightly higher than in Tajikistan and Dagestan.

Quote: aksakal

they do not consider Russians as equal to themselves

Unfortunately, as soon as the number of NOT Russians (no matter European, Caucasians or Asians) exceeds a certain percentage, all of them, without exception, cease to consider Russians as their equal.
Think about it.

[valokordin]

Aksakal, pay attention not to the train of thought of the philosopher Nevzorov, but to his erroneous utopian conclusions, but do not contrast religious views, but they differ only in form. Atheism equalized all religions and there were no religious wars under socialism.

[aksakal]

Quote: valokordin

Aksakal, pay attention not to the train of thought of the philosopher Nevzorov, but to his erroneous utopian conclusions, but do not contrast religious views, but they differ only in form. Atheism equalized all religions and there were no religious wars under socialism.

- I agree!

[Oleg1986]

Atheism is also a religion. In the USSR, successfully planted and spawned Yeltsins, Gaidarov, Chubais and other scum. And those who fought, nevertheless, were still raised by believing grandparents and village grandfathers.
Now we are reaping the fruits of this atheism. In Europe, too, are reaping. Only they have a malignant tumor there, and surgeons from the southeast are already in a hurry with their radical views.

[Atlon]

Quote: aksakal

Be men - do not like the Tatars and Caucasians because of their faith?

Vera, it just has nothing to do with it ... No need to distort. And the fact that the phrase "Islamic terrorism" is on everyone's lips, it is not Christians who are to blame, but your fellow believers. But again, this is not the point. And the speech is about the fact that representatives of some southern peoples, "descended from the tree" - as you have deigned to say, behave so boorishly that they naturally cause irritation. However, Christian culture is much more tolerant of such manifestations (imagine such behavior of Russians in Chechnya or Dagestan, how long will local tolerance be enough?), Which is probably why foreigners behave like pigs. And by the way, this behavior is a minus to those who raised these idiots. But the Eastern institutions of the family are by far stronger than the pro-Western institutions.
And faith, nothing to do with it. A person is not judged by faith, but by his actions. And if it turns out that Muslims more often than others fall into criminal reports or behave like savages, who is to blame?

[Misantrop]

Quote: aksakal

Yes, we Muslims, of course, only got off the trees the day before yesterday, excuse me, but since we got off, let's solve this segregation by religion somehow.

Well, let's decide, in fact. Who, if not Muslims, should solve the issue of Islamic radical movements? Look around you, your own radicals will soon devour yourself. While a bearded scumbag with weapons and explosives, with a grief in half, having mastered a couple of suras, will be closer and dearer to you than a Christian warrior or an atheist who protects against him yours children, you will be perceived by all as if they were the most frostbitten radicals. Who should cleanse Islam from the same Wahhabis if not you yourself? Other religions or secular power? So this is an inter-civilization war, which the United States and its allies are trying hard to fan now. Do you want this?

[aksakal]

Quote: Misantrop

Well, let's decide, in fact. Who, if not Muslims, should solve the issue of Islamic radical movements? Look around you, your own radicals will soon devour yourself. While a bearded scumbag with weapons and explosives, having half-mastered a couple of suras, will be closer and dearer to you than a Christian warrior or an atheist who protects your children from him, you will be perceived by everyone as the most frostbitten radicals. Who should cleanse Islam from the same Wahhabis if not you yourself? Other religions or secular power? So this is an inter-civilization war, which the United States and its allies are trying hard to fan now. Do you want this?

- I agree. And by the way, when the question arose about wearing hijabs in educational institutions, in our Muslim country, this question did not stand even for five minutes. First, the Ministry of Education said that there was nothing to do with hijab in educational institutions, and then Nazarabayev confirmed this. Yours lasted a little longer somewhere in Simferopol or Krasnodar, I don't remember. So this is not our problem, Muslims have an attitude to Islamism that their faith is used for such things. Although the Orthodox faith can also become such an instrument. It was enough at the right time to support the media and other material resources of the well-known Mr. Chaplin (not an American comedian), and you could easily cultivate some kind of "Orthodoxy". So we are working against Wahhabism, and how! In western Kazakhstan, I strongly advise you not to go un-shaven, and God forbid, your pants will still be short. Cops can confuse -))))). And not even ask why not shaved and in short pants. This means that we are not fighting.
Here are such considerations. I will answer immediately all the posts, including the post of the old rocket launcher, who nevertheless adheres, albeit secretly, albeit very moderate, but alas, racism.
Kazakhstan is no less a multinational power than Russia. But we have no confessional or ethnic issue. Why? The mixer is running. Somewhere in Kazakhstan, a place of compact residence of someone else (excluding the Chinese, about them a little separately) self-organizes, instantly our "Chimkent residents" suddenly appear there to live. This is our kind of people, they feel good everywhere and everywhere they feel at ease. Even after settling in the very den of some kind of Chechens or Uighurs. Or Russians - which is quite normal in the north of Kazakhstan. With his charter he does not climb to neighbors. Being in Russian villages, seeing a girl who is overly lightly dressed, from his point of view, does not judge this in any way and does not comment in any way. Perhaps in the kitchen he will discuss it with his wife, but not. And he knows Russian. It turns out that this Chimkent resident has two defenses - the first is official. A citizen of Kazakhstan on the territory of the Republic of Kazakhstan has the right to choose his place of residence everywhere in the territory of the Republic of Kazakhstan, the second is unofficial. Let's say the locals decided to exterminate this person who had settled inappropriately, based on ethnicity. Unfortunately, I have to admit that there are nationalists in Kazakhstan.

[old rocket man]

Quote: aksakal

Sound, be men. Be peasants in the sense of - be prepared for the consequences of such direct scoring.

Just do not scare. And do not interfere with a bunch of all Muslims, Tatars and Caucasians, these are, as they say, two big differences Yes, I do not like Caucasians, by the way, and Christian Caucasians tooIt’s not bad that you got off the tree (I said it myself, I didn’t say that), it’s bad that you try to climb it again, and you don’t have to try everything on yourself right away, otherwise it turns out that the hat is on the thief.
I put the minus for you, and the article, too, the article for utopianism, and you for the painful imagination, -the article is not against Muslims, it is against the destruction of Christian spiritual values

[aksakal]

Continuation: But unlike the same Petersburg skinheads, they don’t go and beat passers-by for so, for a different skin color. And carefully hide their views. But as soon as a rumor spreads that somewhere in the place of compact residence (are there options here, do you know anyone?) They killed a family of Shymkent people for their ethnic affiliation ... I don’t continue any further, you yourself guessed it. By the way, the former Olympic champion Turlykhanov, who previously held prominent government posts, was burnt out for his active adoption in such events. To summarize - such a Chimkentian is, as it were, under double protection. And so it boldly dilutes with itself any compact place of residence of any ethnic group, except for Chinese (but about them - below). It turns out that all Kazakhstanis are forced to live side by side - on the left is an apartment with Koreans, on the right with Russians, a floor above - Uyghurs. Etc. At work, the same thing. On the right is Nikolai, on the left is Pak. Etc. you don’t even really discuss the national characteristics of this or that ethnic group — its representative is obligatory — in the circle of communication. And sometimes I want to -))))). Awkward. And we live like a vmixer, constantly mixed. And there are no questions at all.
Now let's compare with the behavior of the Russians at the end of the year before last - the beginning of the last century. The girl who is the author of the favorite Kazakh hit, "Dudadarayym-duda", whose daughter is she? That's right, a Russian immigrant, a peasant. That is, both he and his daughter learned the Kazakh language. Both he and she did not go with their charter into the customs of the Kazakh people. Both he and she were under double protection - under the protection of the Russian Empire and under the protection of the Cossacks who were nearby.
And now the question. What's better? Sprinkle saliva or revive the corps of those Russian peasants who are ready to go to Makhachkala, Grozny, etc. What prevents the same skinheads from civilizing so that they would not rush into the streets of their cities without hitting anyone, but were ready to leave for the same Makhachkala, Grozny, if circumstances so require? What prevents to organize such a mixer? Life in such a mixer greatly smoothes out the most intolerant national differences, and you can survive the rest.
And Islamism is from a different category. On the good - to specifically stand on knives with the States, up to the threat of declaring these States a country supporting terrorism (especially since it is), and slightly bombing Saudi Arabia and Qatar at oil terminals. Threatening a ban on fear of bombing the annual gathering called "Hajj" to the full heap. Islamism will take off like a hand.

[Alexander Romanov]

The fact that Gaga was booed is one thing, what a normal person will go to a concert of a "singer" who openly calls for homosexuality. It is not clear why she was allowed to perform and, most importantly, who paid for her concert?

As for the rest. If in the 80s we hawned beautiful pictures of Hollywood and wanted to live. As they are, now we see what and where tolerance and other crap led to. The Russian society will simply burp any politician who from the TV screens will call for liberalism and Western values.
The problem of modern Russian society, almost complete lack of morality. "Fuck" what to spit, but here a lot depends on ourselves, how we brought up, then we got it. We ourselves bring home all the most advanced, computers with access to the Internet and porn, We pass by sex shops , although the most correct thing would be to throw a brick into the window of this store and pile cuffs on the owner so that the brains fall into place. Everyone lives for themselves with grandiose plans for vacations and new purchases and that's all. To create any form, capitalism, socialism, Orthodoxy - you need an idea that is not there now. Everyone understands that changes are needed, but things are not going further.

[Feanor]

I agree with you about the fact that the cult of "sex" has come to us, morality is generally not known where it has gone, but if we now take up the education and patriotic upbringing of the younger generation, you will see the result in 20-30 years.

ps And as for the sex shop, many would have thrown it, but that's what they will be fined for, so this should happen at the legislative level, so that all this squalor would be closed.

[S_mirnov]

Modern authorities do not need smart and proud people, we need consumers who are quiet, humble, preferably believers (for all power is from God). We see the manifestation of this policy in a reduction in the number of universities, the introduction of paid education, and the planting of religions in schools and the army. At school, the emphasis in education is not on patriotism, as many people think, but on loyalty to power and tolerance for a bad life.

[OSTAP BENDER]

Quote: S_mirnov

Modern authorities do not need smart and proud people, we need consumers who are quiet, humble, preferably believers (for all power is from God). We see the manifestation of this policy in a reduction in the number of universities, the introduction of paid education, and the planting of religions in schools and the army. At school, the emphasis in education is not on patriotism, as many people think, but on loyalty to power and tolerance for a bad life.

I subscribe to your every word! +++++

[Orik]

Besides the signal to the World that we are open for bright people, we need to come to this ourselves.

Even for the unification of Russia, Ukraine and Belarus, it is necessary to create and implement (!) Your civilization project. As long as we follow the Western liberal course, there is no talk of any unification.

[valokordin]

Nevzrov, the article is not a minus and not a plus. The meaning of the article is understandable, we are talking about uniting the country on the basis of clericalism, i.e. create a center of attraction for Orthodoxy in Russia. But this is essentially impossible. How is it supposed to be created, who will organize and finance it? Who will be the driving force, what layers of society can be the basis of this movement is not clear. Although Russia is called Orthodox, it is only by inertia, because initially Russia was such. Currently, the bulk of the population is either atheists or believers who do not go to church, i.e. do not form a church community, do not confess, do not receive communion. The Russian Orthodox Church itself is not internally homogeneous; economic and spiritual contradictions are aggravated within it. Just look at the priests in expensive cars, expensive watches and luxurious mansions and poor old ladies - the bulk of the parishioners. Look at the priests kissing the hands of authority, which creates obvious godlessness and is baptized in the temple. Thus, the church is not able to carry out this association. The easiest way to unite the country was atheism, but not militant, which would erase the contradictions between religions on the basis of socialist morality, as it was in the USSR. How many people helped the country of socialism in the same capitalist countries and not even for money. Try to recruit an agent on an ideological basis, like Kim Philby and his Cambridge Five, and others like Klaus Fuchs and the Rosenberg couple — no, this will not work now, only for money, and paid agents are not very reliable. Those who worked on operational work know this. The only one who can begin the unification of the country is state power from above, and the current leaders are not independent and the country is essentially not sovereign. The country can be saved not on the basis of the unification of Orthodoxy, but on the basis of a socialist understanding of the processes taking place. The majority of people will ultimately come to this conclusion, and Christianity with numerous faiths (how many were recruited into various sects?), Islam that fights within itself and fights against Christians together, will not be able to unite. Sometimes they ask me, who am I by faith? I answer the Orthodox atheist. I was baptized in Orthodoxy, I go to church to put candles for health and repose. But I cannot stand church hypocrisy, I respect believers, I am not brought up by the church, but I remain an atheist in upbringing and worldview.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: valokordin

But this is essentially impossible.

Far from a fact.

Quote: valokordin

Who will be the driving force, what layers of society can be the basis of this movement is not clear.

People, Russian people, but for this you need to be masters in their own land.

Quote: valokordin

Thus, the church is not able to carry out this association.

Reading what you wrote above, it becomes clear that you notice all the negativity and focus on it. But not all priests live in luxury, most of them collect bit by bit for temple repairs and do not have luxury wheelbarrows. The apostates were, are and will be but ordinary true believers do not take examples from them. And politicians will definitely not be able to lead people to unification. Some are for Zyuganov, the second for Putin or Zhirik and what is the result?

Quote: valokordin

The country can be saved not on the basis of the unification of Orthodoxy, but on the basis of a socialist understanding of the processes

Given the decline in morality, this is not possible. A person will not push himself into the framework. The state will not be able to do this, in any case ours, whose officials love a beautiful life.

[aksakal]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

A person will not push himself into a framework

dear, it depends on education. It is not necessary to liken a brow to an animal, this animal is trained, and a person actually raised. And from the way he was brought up, he drives himself into the framework exactly the same degree. With the help of the Church, this is of course easier to do, but without the Church it is quite possible. I don’t think that my children brought up outside of frequent visits to the mosque cannot push themselves into the framework. I see that they can do this very well.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: aksakal

dear, it depends on education

My dear, you read everything that I wrote or nothing. About the upbringing, I already wrote above.

[Atlon]

Quote: aksakal

dear, it depends on education. It is not necessary to liken a brow to an animal, this animal is trained, and a person actually raised. And from the way he was brought up, he drives himself into the framework exactly the same degree.

Does this mean that when raising Muslim children by Muslim parents, two types of "frames" are outlined for the above children? Home and away behavior? Of course, we are not talking about 100% (God forbid!), But those whom we see on the streets of Russian cities are far from the best part of the Muslim environment, but rather the worst. Hamlo and pigs. The question is, where is the Muslim community looking? Or is this behavior de facto encouraged?

[zanoza]

In Soviet times, the ideology of our entire multinational country was one - communist. We were moving (or standing) in one direction - to "Communism". This ideology was implanted in all spheres of life from birth to death. Right or wrong, it was the unifying core. Personally, I didn't care what nationality you were, what gods you prayed to or were an atheist. We looked at one point. Then the "smart guys" announced that it was bad, "to look at one point." Chaos of ethnic division began, the formation of new national states, and feverishly all ethnic groups began to look for a unifying "core". And they must have found it in their traditional national religion, and although the "divine covenants" in each of the religions are essentially identical, the adepts decided for themselves and the priests helped them in this that their religion was better, more correct. So we do not have a common "core" and vector of development today, but many directions, and not always forward. At the same time, we blaspheme each other, show not tolerance and, most importantly, DISRESPECT for each other, based on religious preferences. Division of the Orthodox Church in Ukraine, boorish behavior of Caucasians in non-Muslim regions. At home they are different, they will welcome you kindly, if you come to their house with kindness, but they can also "rob", as a Gentile, and this will find understanding in their midst. The Orthodox are also not without sin. Therefore, it will not be true to build relationships between people in a multi-confessional country that does not have a national idea, only on the basis of the correct postulates of religious faith. There needs to be something more unifying than lines from the scriptures.

[Nick]

Quote: valokordin

I’m not brought up by the church, but I remain an atheist in upbringing and worldview.

Can you explain what the difference is?
The paradox is that many atheists adhere to the commandments of God.
They do not steal, they do not kill, they do not commit adultery, they do not create an idol for themselves ... That is, they actually keep most of the commandments, while denying God, believing themselves to be atheists. Just some kind of split consciousness in people ...

[old rocket man]

Nick,
I'm sorry to interfere, but people often mix the concepts of FAITH and CHURCH.
Faith is a religious ideology that all believers share and accept, and the church is the apparatus for administering clergy and churches, appropriating, in the process of formation, the right to interpret (and one-to-one and undeniable) the Bible and the gospel. As well as the Communist Party, which was a symbiosis of a beautiful ideology and a hypocritical apparatus that had nothing to do with this ideology, on which, by the way, it burned.
It is not a matter of what the priest rides on a tram or a cool car, the fact is that he puts in the first place, service to God and Faith, people, as a result, or the Church, its hierarchs.
PSMy great-grandmother was very devout, kept all the fasts, prayed and lit the lamp under the icon, but she went to church only on holidays and did not like priests, called them long-maned

[GG2012]

Quote: Old Rocketman

Faith is a religious ideology that all believers share and accept, and the church is the apparatus for administering clergy and churches, appropriating to itself, in the process of formation, the right to interpret (and one-to-one and undeniable) the Bible and the gospel.

Briefly, clearly and in essence.
Objectively, such a large state as Russia (and in the future, I hope, the Russian Empire), urgently needs a state ideology.
It used to be a communist ideology.
Now they are trying to make Slavic Christianity out of Jewish Christianity, using the term "Orthodox" stolen from Paganism.
But the problem is, in order to solve this problem (Christianity as a state Ideology), the Church and the State, it is necessary to pour a million tons of terabytes of FALSE on the population.
The church needs to constantly prove that Christ is not a literary character, but a real one. That the birth date of Christ was always known, but for some reason was determined only in 585 A.D. and then with an arithmetic error in calendar calculations. Although, the period of the alleged birth itself is taken ... as it were, so to speak ... from the lantern. Because, the ancient anti-Semite King Herod, it really fits the tale of the beating of Jewish babies, although historically there is not a single document talking about such a fact, and so many babies for those places, it says that it was a city of a million people (which is simply ruled out!).
And such overlays and inconsistencies, in Jewish tales ... are full.
How can the Church explain these pads to a new rising generation?
But how? He will say that asking uncomfortable questions is blasphemy.

But here the problem gets bigger.
Now in the courtyard is the 21st century. Information Age. A person consumes as much information per day as before (until the 18th century) in his entire life.
Christianity lasted in Russia for 1000 years only thanks to the absolute monopoly on Information.
Now there is no such monopoly and cannot be!
And in equal informational conditions with the "consumers" of their fairy tales (population), the Church is doomed to defeat. Because the Bible is a dogma. You can’t throw anything out of it and you don’t write anything. Mistakes made while creating the Bible - cannot be fixed. So the Church and the priests have to get out and interpret written.
But this feint is only for youngsters. Those who are older and more sober themselves can read and you will not prove to them that on the day of Christ's execution there was a Solar eclipse. It simply could not be that day. Because all Solar and Lunar eclipses over the past 5000 years have been calculated to the second.
So the Bible is lying! So the Eclipse was invented for the "Hollywood effect" to emphasize the severity of the moment.
And so in everything!
So it turns out that the Priests take on an unsolvable task. Understand this, but still come from.
The question is why?
Yes, because a decade has a power trough, then it will feed a hundred years.
During this time, the Church, as an organization, will earn itself "fat", which will be spent as an organization for the next hundred years, but this will be after the project "Christianity as a State Ideology - 21" collapses once again with a bang.

[valokordin]

Quote: Nick

Can you explain what the difference is?
The paradox is that many atheists adhere to the commandments of God.
They do not steal, they do not kill, they do not commit adultery, they do not create an idol for themselves ... That is, they actually keep most of the commandments, while denying God, believing themselves to be atheists. Just some kind of split consciousness in people ...

And remember the moral code and the 10 commandments of the Sermon on the Mount.

[fenix57]

The path to God is a struggle with oneself and no one here is an assistant: neither a temple nor a priest.

[Nick]

Quote: fenix57

The path to God is a struggle with oneself and no one here is an assistant: neither a temple nor a priest.

Well, you are too categorical. Priest to the priest discord. Sergius of Radonezh lived in Russia, and Gapon also lived ...

[Orik]

Just in the struggle with itself, the Church is the first helper!

[Etna]

It seems like an ordinary-looking guy for the whole world calmly tells how he wants a dog ..... Help! And such "blessings" as life in Siberia, the compulsory study of the Russian language and the indispensable acceptance of Orthodoxy are unlikely to attract 300 thousand, let alone 1 million Europeans, educated and useful economically.

[AK-47]

The main condition for people who simply want to raise children without propaganda of homosexuality, violence, bestiality and persecution for the Christian faith is the adoption of Orthodoxy, Christianity of the Eastern Rite.

Orthodoxy and Christianity of the Eastern standard are not necessary here. The state has a more effective lever - the legislation. Prohibit all these perversions and their propaganda under the threat of criminal prosecution. Of course, the West will not like this, but they will survive nothing.

[boris.radevitch]

Merry Christmas guys chronicle you Lord!

In 2013, we will print a lot of iron money enough for everyone!

[valokordin]

Quote: boris.radevitch

Merry Christmas guys chronicle you Lord!

Boris Merry Christmas, but do not chase us prematurely, God bless you.

[Egoza]

No need to impose any religion. The Christian commandments are the same for everyone. The main thing is to fulfill them! By the way, I would take the "Code of the Builders of Communism" as a basis - everything goes well. But to make the laws more stringent, and again demanding their implementation at ALL levels - it will not hurt. As long as the "elite" will live by their own laws and the people by their own, there will be no revival of morality. And we must start with education! Vaughn already in Great Britain began to introduce the principles and elements of Soviet education. It was the best in the world! So maybe we need to return it? And not all sorts of nonsense to pull from Europe? And again, clearing history! Enough to find fault with the USSR! So many examples of courage, loyalty, nobility, honesty, especially during the Second World War! Yes, these examples alone can educate patriots!

[Igarr]

And I read the first part. And I read this part.
"..state capitalism based on the idea of ​​national socialism."
...
It doesn’t sound at all.
Neither scary nor menacing. Because - not in Russian.
..
Who remembers the Union - for free, capitalism is not needed.
Neither with a human face, nor with a gangster grin, nor with national socialism.
And who does not remember at all - the Union - they know the current capitalism - unlimited, lordly. "Elite" capitalism - which is in nature - does not exist. This is like a society of equal opportunities? We have the same - the higher .. the elite - the more smoother he is.
And they, too (current youth) do not need such capitalism. Rights are needed, but in the design of the USSR. Such a hitch.
..
But actually in Russia - there has always been an idea of ​​justice.
Justice of conscience, law, spirit, deed.
Justice of the state and people.
This is very reminiscent of - egalitarianism - which for some is like a bull ring for a bull.
But actually it is not.
I will give examples of holy ascetics, ascetics (.. the roll call begins), holy fools.
I will give examples of the Morozov, Buturlin, Stroganovs.
Some are poor ... but rich in spirit. They are remembered by the people.
Others are rich .. and rich in spirit. And their people remember.
...
If people see ... wild inequality ... by designation, and not by virtue of their own merits - there is nothing to talk about justice.
...
Churchill told the British that I did not promise you anything except sweat and labors for the glory of England (my retelling). Churchill is a national hero.
PEOPLE - understand.
Stalin ....... PEOPLE-understand.
...
Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Medvedev ..... people - understand?
...
You can come up with fear of what terms.
But until people see BURNING for the glory of the Motherland, CREATIONS in the name of the Fatherland, nothing will come of it.
...
How to make? EASY.
To sign a direct action decree - whoever does not return stolen to Russia before 01.07.2013 - loses all state rights. And life.
..
And we'll see.

[old rocket man]

Igarr,
Hello, namesake. +++
I forgot to add that pre-select passports, otherwise they will run away, pilad

[boris.radevitch]

Merry Christmas guys!

[rpek32]

I can’t understand why to mix the state and religion? (Sam is an agnostic.

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Personally, for me, the ideal option: the church does not affect me through the state, and does not impose anything.

And even now the majority of "believers" are not believers at all. The commandments do not even know, and the apostles by name.

[Ascetic]

Question

And I wonder why “Ascetic”, listing three tangible blows to the Russian sovereignty and our Orthodox Faith, did not come to the “concept” of state capitalism based on the idea of ​​Christian socialism? Does it sound scary and unscientific?

Response

the article will be relevant at least by 2023 ...

Have you ever wondered why socialism could not hold out for more than 70 years? Why did the ruling class, which essentially became the CPSU, begin to be filled with fools and Judas (I recall that Judas was also a thief) ... Just the faith in communism has gone, and only Pharisee has remained. The relics of the leader remained, the sacred writings of Marx-Engels-Lenin remained, the rites with obligatory "approvals" remained, and the faith was gone. therefore only Zyuganovites can dream of restoring soulless socialism.
And Orthodox (spiritual) socialism is impossible today because the Russian Orthodox Church itself. does not aim at changing the world, the state. The church is engaged in the spiritual, human soul and fellowship with God. Of course, no one is going to build a clerical state. And do not wait for the Patriarch to give advice to presidents. The church is separate from the state, and thank God.. The essence of Orthodoxy (for simplicity, we will not talk about Christianity in general) in individual salvation of the believer. The Russian Orthodox Church clearly and steadily adheres to this position and accepting it or not is a private matter for everyone and this is freedom of conscience. And Christian socialism is possible only with the consent and recognition of the majority of citizens to live essentially the MONASTERIAN LAWS.
This idea itself is not at the level of MIND, but at the level of SUBCONSCIOUSNESS of the Russian person in his attempt to search for a socially just way of life. Orthodox people and the Church do not want to see the presence of this very justice in socialism. considering it primarily a theomachic idea. This is the contradiction and irrelevance of this idea today. Today the situation is simple - we are in capitalism, and in its most crappy form, criminally bureaucratic in essence, and before that we were even lower in the gangster-oligarchic accelerated construction under the supervision of the West as the most suitable for "optimization" of Russia. So the choice before us is simple either to return back to the power of the oligarchs amid the hooting of the "swamp" crowd, or to move forward from bureaucratic clan capitalism to NATIONAL ORIENTED STATE CAPITALISM, since in a liberal free market Russia will by definition be uncompetitive due to its geographic, natural and demographic features with numerous minuses arising from them.

[webdog]

Ascetic, YOU A DEEPLY THINKING person ...
I agree with your statement.
short, clear on the topic.
I put +!

[old rocket man]

webdog,
Everyone can think, but analyzing, relying on versatile knowledge, the fate of not many, it is good that we have our own Ascetic on the site.

[nokki]

Quote: webdog

Ascetic, YOU A DEEPLY THINKING person ...
I agree with your statement.
short, clear on the topic.
I put +!

You got ahead of me! But - I agree 100%!

[valokordin]

Ascetic, I do not agree with your promises that socialism has collapsed, because the belief in communism has gone. Socialism collapsed as a result of the betrayal of the ruling elite, which, like Judas, betrayed the ideals defended by the "orthodox" I.V. Stalin. Petty-bourgeois habits and devotion to ideals have not been eradicated. Among the communists in August 1991. there was an attempt to revive the party and the country, but the Moscow majority of the corrupt intelligentsia and officials, bought for dollars, did not allow it to be done, and the communists did not show firmness and wisdom. Although the levers of power were in their hands. Every revolution is worth something if it knows how to defend itself. See how the current government has learned to defend itself, lies in the head of information, at the elections. What can be opposed to this, the bitter truth? An active struggle ?, so you will be thrown into Butyrka, or you will deprive the party of material support, so all oppositionists are keeping quiet. There is no independent money, that's all. If the money is from abroad, you are a foreign agent. Local oligarchs will not give money for the opposition, it remains to hope for the king's father.

[stranik72]

And you didn’t think why in 1917 such a spiritual white all-noble elite, led by an Orthodox monarch, led their people to bloodshed and fratricide, turning into those very Judas. That the Russian people also instantly became unspiritual and lost faith in Orthodoxy? That in 17 there were few "approvals" and this is the main reason for the collapse of the country in 1917 and in 1991, for 70 years of its existence, socialism has shown its advantages and its vitality. But the roots of 17 and 91, just lie in the human and intellectual potential of the nation, and especially its elite. That the king, that the General Secretary made a major and monstrous mistake, they allowed the elite to live according to a law different from those by which the people of the country live. Much was allowed for them, in the end, they wanted even more “freedom and money”, therefore betrayal among them is a common thing and the concept of Homeland and people does not exist for them, so that there is no need for “Orthodoxy and soulless socialism” in relation to Russia and the USSR we are talking only about the elite, it is the basis of all the cataclysms of the 20th century in our country. And the people, and the people, in Russia, he always looked into the mouth of the authorities or followed the path of those who promised him free sausage and butter. And so that the people “do not grow wiser”, today's authorities do everything so that a quality education is not accessible to the majority. The path of development of the country, which Putin chose a dead end and attempts to lead the country out of this dead end without solving 2 issues, namely, the attitude of the elite to their country and the attitude of the authorities to the titular nation to the Russian people are utopia.

[Corsair5912]

Bloodshed and fratricide in Russia began on 9 on January 1905, when a peaceful demonstration of workers, who was going to the Tsar with a petition, was shot at the Palace Square in St. Petersburg, by order of Nikolashka Verevkin-Bloody.
After January 9, there could no longer be a return to the previous empire.
By the way, the bloody Nikolashka Romanov was called not for this execution, but for the mass deaths of people on the Khodynsky field, on the day of the coronation.

[Magadan]

Ascetic, a great answer!

We must really understand the essence of Orthodoxy, and remember that the task of the Church is not to build a state. Those priests who mixed Faith with
the building of the state, just became the Pharisees and crucified Christ.
Or the same Pope of Rome, who climbed into state affairs and organized the Inquisition with the Crusades.
The church, in addition to spirituality and morality, does nothing else

[Aleksys2]

Quote: Ascetic

The church is engaged in the spiritual, human soul and fellowship with God.

In 1994, the Department for External Church Relations (DECR, one of the units of the Patriarchate) received permission for duty-free importation of cigarettes. A quota restricting the size of imports has not been established. In 1994-1995 DECR imported about 10 thousand tons of cigarettes.
The main supplier of 'humanitarian' cigarettes and alcohol in 1996 was the Orthodox Church, represented by the art-industrial enterprise of the Moscow Patriarchate 'Sofrino' and the Humanitarian Aid Headquarters of the Department of External Relations of the Moscow Patriarchate. Representatives of other confessions could not receive such benefits - the commission rejected their requests for duty-free import of cigarettes and alcohol.
KhPP Sofrino had a permit for duty-free import of wine for $ 30 million. Part of it was supposed to be spent on ceremonies, the rest - to be put on sale, and with the money raised to reconstruct the enterprise itself, which is the only one in the country producing church utensils. The Patriarchate planned to use the profits from the sale of cigarettes for the restoration of churches and monasteries.

[Atlon]

The American business journal Foreign Policy named Russian President Vladimir Putin the most influential political, business and public figure in the world. By this definition is meant the ability to make individual decisions that affect the life and well-being of a large number of people, the compilers of the rating explained. At the same time, Putin is on the second line of the list - the first place has remained vacant. This year, the magazine decided to leave the top line of the rating empty, since the scope of the geopolitical and economic problems of the world is so great that, according to the publication, one person is not able to cope with them individually. Following the head of Russia is the head of the US Federal Reserve Ben Bernanke, followed by German Chancellor Angela Merkel. The fifth line was taken by US President Barack Obama.

source: http://www.itar-tass.com/c12/614924.html

[zasxdcfvv]

It’s time to live according to racial laws, as they are the only true and useful. All whites are scattered tribes of one ethnic group.

[old rocket man]

zasxdcfvv,

In a decent society, it’s not customary to say such stupid things out loud
If you want to fart, go to the side

[zasxdcfvv]

A decent society is Europe?

[Corsair5912]

Europe has never been decent from a Russian point of view.

[Corsair5912]

Yeah, as is customary in Europe, in Amsterdam, for example.

[ryadovoi]

Enough for Russia to make global mistakes in relation to its people, on which the whole world is studying, and makes its life better.

[Corsair5912]

Russia did not make any global mistakes, although the whole world really studied on its example. Russian education, science, planned economy, democratic laws, etc. were an example to the whole world.
Europe made a global mistake when, in 1941, under the command of Hitler, it attacked the USSR.

[homosum20]

I will follow the example of the Khazin and immediately say that I express my subjective opinion (according to the example of the Khazin article, this means that I will carry complete garbage, and you must praise me. Moreover, I do not have to prove anything - this is a subjective opinion. This is precisely this point of view I tried to refute, for which I was not understood).
The author is Ukrainian. (Manifesto to Russians in Ukraine! (Supplemented)). Moreover, in the first article in Live jorrnal he wrote about the problems of the Russian community in Ukraine, after which in the next 3 he began to propose to Russia (and Russians, in particular) new national ideologies.
"Top 10 national ideas for Russia". In my commentary, I expressed some bewilderment that a citizen of Ukraine is so concerned about the ideological scarcity of Russian life and was surprised that the IDEA OF ORTHODOXY did not lead to the national ideas of Russia. Note - SHE DIDN'T COME IN.
Imagine my surprise when in this article I see the phrase:
"Concept" state capitalism based on the idea of ​​CHRISTIAN socialism ".
Firstly - this is complete nonsense, I was kidding in comments, but yes it doesn’t matter - Christianity can be different. I’m not even talking about Catholicism, Protestantism is deeply alien to Russia. But there are also Vedb sectarian directions. Religion of Russians - Orthodoxy. For which the Catholics burned our lands more than once (By the way, the religion of a significant part of Ukrainians is Catholicism. This is also Christianity. But not ours.)
But the main thing that surprised me was that in the past, religion was not mentioned at all, and here on you, it formed the basis of state ideology.
The author, in my opinion, says what they want to hear from him. Like our us ....... ln.
Everything, a subjective opinion is expressed. can praise.

[Nevsky]

homosum20, are you a provocateur?
Open your eyes wider in the article TOP-10 of national ideas for Russia (Rus) Orthodoxy under paragraph 4. I demand an apology. This is a blunder, not a reservation.
Secondly, the fact that I live in Ukraine and Russian, that I am not a part of the Russian world? I, like many here, live the thought of reuniting our lands!

[homosum20]

Dear colleagues!
I really made a gross mistake. In paragraph 4 of the article to which I refer, religion really means.
I am grateful to the author of the article, who pointed me to this.
I offer a deep and sincere apology to the author for this error.
I sent the same apologies with explanations to the author and the PM.
I would like to clarify: I am amazed at the flexibility of the author's convictions, who by his actions (together with the rest of the "mistakes" on the Maidan) plunged his native country into administrative chaos for 4 years. I planted the Russians in the Ukraine in the very .opu about which he tearfully talks. (It was under Yushchenko that most of all was done to distort history, "Ukrainize" life, etc.)
Further, during the reign of Yushchenko Ukraine, a number of international conflicts were created that significantly affected the authority and position of Russia in Europe and the measure, which complicated the rehabilitation of our country. I believe that the orange Maidan gang (to which the author belonged at that time) should bear its part of the responsibility for this. They saw very well who was delivering tents to them, food, yelling at rallies and what yelling. The author himself directly admits - he did not care before politics at that time.
A person watching how they set his house on fire, or even helping to set him on fire, should not then complain that his house is on fire.
The author says that it was his mistake.
A person making SUCH mistakes in life should be more lenient to those who make mistakes. I made a mistake on the site, and he is in Ukraine.
Further - the scale of metamorphosis is striking - from one edge of the scale - to the exact opposite. This suggests that the person has not yet settled down, has not taken place, and where is the guarantee that tomorrow he will not come from some other region? With such flexibility of belief, anything is possible.
I tried to answer the question - not a provocateur. No, I'm not a provocateur.
But is the author a provocateur? Personally, gnawing doubts.
Once again, I want to apologize for the mistake - publicly. I think the author is satisfied.
I wish him continued success in seeking a personal position

[Nevsky]

Apologies are accepted. Metamorphosis is associated with the formation of personality. At the time of the Orange Revolution, I was 19 years old. He explained the reasons for the support. Thank you

[Corsair5912]

The ignorance of the author of the article is simply amazing.
1. In Russia, of course, there is a lot of land and not 1 million people can be settled, but all these lands are not equipped, there is not enough heat and electricity to survive the six-month winter. People from villages to cities do not move because of theaters.
And the fact that equipped is populated quite densely.
2. Siberia is not suitable for settlement, 4 / 5 of its territory is permafrost and impenetrable swamps, where not only crops, but even the forest does not grow. What kind of Chinese are there in the ass? The Chinese have 2 / 3 own territory, with much more favorable conditions for life is not mastered.
3. Orthodoxy is no different from other branches of Christianity, the same obscurantism, cruelty to Gentiles, the same money-grubbing and ignorance.
4. Russia (USSR) became a great power solely thanks to atheism, which eliminated the religious barriers between peoples and gave science and education a green street.
5. On the example of Russia, the whole world studied in modern ways to learn and work.
According to the cultural and scientific level, Russia even now stands on the 2 place in the world. Freedom and democracy in Europe were brought in 1945 by the soldiers of the Red Army, eliminating the fascist regimes in Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Germany, Czechoslovakia, Poland, etc.

[valokordin]

Pirate, your reasoning is very correct, your conclusions were confirmed by the 70-year history of the USSR. All the current democrats are fragments of the enemies of the Soviet regime that were not killed, bought with currency, rotten, degenerated members of the party alien to the people. These are class enemies alien to us. I lived under socialism for almost 50 years, and saw how this rot was striving for power under the slogan of blaming Stalin, praising Western values. How universal human "values" were hammered into my head, I remember how the intelligentsia and especially school teachers, teachers and many cultural figures campaigned for EBN, and then whimpered that they were paid little. I remember how honest and decent communists were humiliated and labeled.

[Magadan]

Quote: S_mirnov

In my opinion, Orthodoxy, on the contrary, cripples people, especially children, raising out of them obedient sheep or, according to the Biblical, "lambs of God" or "servants of God." Probably many people like to be slaves, but I was raised as a free person and so I intend to remain

Smirnov, it is in you that the brainwashed is talking. This does not surprise me for a long time, quite a few repeat the mantra about "slaves and dark people". Only if you look in real life, then slaves are slaughtered just you, atheists.
Just instead of being afraid of God (the same thing as being afraid to upset your parents in childhood), you are afraid of people. From here - reverence, man-pleasing and the desire of everyone around likes that no one suddenly thinks badly of you.
In your opinion, Alexander Suvorov and the Holy Righteous Fyodor Ushakov - were they slaughtered slaves? Maybe you remember from History how they showed Catherine with all their looks that they did not accept the morals of the Court? Sometimes to cuddiness. And this is in your opinion "obedient slaves".

And on the account of Stanislav’s idea that Russia should become a home for normal people, I completely agree. But, forcing to accept Orthodoxy is NOT possible. God gave man Free Will and He himself does not rape it. Our ancestors did not forcibly baptize any of the foreigners. One exception is if it is the Queen. Remember the Volga Germans, they were Lutherans and did not bother anyone. Another thing is that many later themselves, according to their faith in Orthodoxy,

[alex82]

In general, the idea presented in the article is correct — building a state on the basis of moral values. Of course there are a lot of roughnesses, but I think they will be overcome.

[studentmati]

How many people, so many opinions ...
In my vision:
- the human resource for Russia is to increase the birth rate, primarily of the indigenous population;
- an intellectual resource - in the reconstruction of high-quality primary, secondary, higher and academic education, based clearly not on the basis of textbooks with spelling errors and often anti-state interpretation of many facts;
- a spiritual resource - in preserving and objective presentation of the centuries-old history of Russia, without ideological biases.

[Matrena]

A wonderful article, the great idea of ​​creating a territory in Russia free of postmodernism and attracting Christians to permanent residence.

[Beltar]

I don’t understand, but what is the article about? That Germany banned bestiality? You know, but in Muscovite Russia and in the Empire, everyone practically did not care about bestiality and homosexuality, church punishments were extremely lenient and, unlike Europe, they didn’t drag them to the fire for homosexuals.

Somehow they lived without hysteria and prohibitions and perverts no more. And in general, today you are chasing fagots, and tomorrow I’m listening to Elton John, so come on with such laws.

Or maybe that migration needs to be covered? Well, it’s necessary to demand from employers that they don’t hire Tajiks for pennies, and do not hire Moldovans to glue wallpaper.

And about the fact that undesirable elements dangerous to society must be destroyed, having scored all "human rights" I did not see. Otherwise, these same rights will be violated to an even greater extent.

[Kaa]

Quote: Beltar

Beltar

Tell me, please, in your nickname, by chance, one buffaff is not replayed?
"on the territory of Russia there is a radical Jewish organization - the Union of Zionist Youth named after Yusef Trumpeldor" Betar " The ranks of the organization were open not only to students of higher educational institutions, but also to young people of all professions and strata of society. “The purpose of the organization was to educate the youth activists of the Jewish national movement who know how to protect themselves, who know Hebrew and Jewish culture and who want to fight for the return of Palestine (Eretz Yisrael) to the Jewish people "
In other words, Zhabotinsky created an organization that is very close in its methods and means to fighting the Hitler youth and the Rem attack aircraft. In Israel, Beitar is a kind of “Komsomol” under the right-wing Likud party, uniting supporters of V. Zhabotinsky’s ideas, but there is between it and the Komsomol “ small "difference. The Komsomol was created as an assistant to the party in the struggle for a bright future for the country, Beitar as a militant organization that imposes order on the Arab world with a bullet and a bayonet. This is how the oath of the Jewish “Komsomol member” sounds: “I devote my life to the revival of the great Jewish state, the majority of whose inhabitants are Jews living on both sides of the Jordan River. For the benefit of nation-building, I am ready to sacrifice myself, my home and my principles ... since I am a descendant of the kings of Israel. If Beitar needs my help for battle or labor, for returning to Zion or for service in Galut, whether it is far, close, I will come to the call. “Remember and do not forget what Amalek did to you.” We will obey Beitar’s laws and the orders of the commanders and the voice of our conscience, since Beitar’s laws coincide with the aspirations of my soul, and the commanders are its ambassadors. ”(Beitar.org.ua).“ Beitar ”distinguished itself during the 1993 coup, distinguished himself so that the villainy of the organization was heard only at a closed meeting of the State Duma.
Let them remember both young and old,
How did Beitar act in Moscow,
People were shot, congress dispersed,
Ipatiev basement was the entrance.
At the same time, the organization’s emblem is a clenched fist of the right hand against the background of the menorah, a very “peaceful” emblem that brings Jewish youth “to the ideals of the national religion” in accordance with Jewish aphorisms: “Canaan is too small for the children of God. The land of Israel will stretch across all countries ”; “The enemy must be forgiven after he is hanged”
“Do not defile the land on which you will live, for blood defiles the earth, and the earth is not otherwise cleansed of the blood shed on it, as the blood that shed it” (Numbers, 35:33) .http: //www.duel.ru/200634 /? 34_6_2

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Quote: Beltar

You know, but in Muscovite Russia and in the Empire, everyone practically did not care about bestiality and homosexuality, church punishments were extremely lenient and, unlike Europe, they did not drag a homosexual to the fire.

In the Russian Empire, such phenomena were not heard and they certainly were not advertised, as they are now.
Nobody was dragged to the fire, because we must not fight a sinnerAnd with sin... If the person is sick, what to do with him? But if this sick person starts to prove to everyone around that he is "normal, just different", that gomosyatina "this is normal, it's just that you are such obscurantists," this is where the problem begins. Do we need black to be considered white? What would sin and perversion come to be perceived as "normal"? No, don't. This is my country and I want to bring up my children in it in a normal climate based on traditional values. And here it is no longer a church, but I, as just a citizen of Russia, will hammer those who want to make Liberation out of Russia.

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It just can't be !!! The FSB has created this http://zipurl.ws/sngbaza database about any resident of Russia, Ukraine and other CIS countries. Really was really scared
there are a lot of interesting things about me (addresses, phone numbers, even my photos of a different nature) - I wonder where they dug up this. In general, there are good sides - this
Information can be deleted from the site.
I advise you to hurry, you never know how to fumble there ...

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Quote: Old Rocketman

a church is a clergy and church management apparatus that has appropriated itself, in the process of formation, the right of interpretation

Let me disagree with you, dear. The church is a circle of people united by Faith. This is WE with you, and not the institution of clergy.
I would like to note, well, whatever we discuss, we will certainly come to the censure of bestiality, homology, and other rubbish, on business and without work, in vain and out of place. Democratic, tolerant values ​​of the West are not reduced only to fraternization with pid ... mi.
One must also see the good, well, for the sake of justice. 40 years ago, blacks could not ride with the whites in the same bus, and now they have President O-Bama. Well, you can see how it is with them, solving issues of ethnic hatred.