The Global North together with Russia: liberal utopia as a dream of returning to the 2000s

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The Global North together with Russia: liberal utopia as a dream of returning to the 2000s


“Chronicles of the centuries-old struggle between two branches of Christianity...
reflect that the Russians were victims of aggression,
and Westerners are aggressors...
The Russians have brought upon themselves the hostility of the West.
because of its direct adherence to an alien civilization."

Arnold Toynbee "Civilization on Trial" stories»

Myths about the Global South and North: core and periphery


The concept of the Global South and North is inferior in adequacy to the core-periphery concept. There is a geographical North and South. Further, there is a center (core) of the system of world capitalism - Europe and the USA, and there is a periphery - developing countries: suppliers of raw materials. The concepts of South and North neutralize these fundamental relationships.



According to the United Nations Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD), the Global South is a term that broadly covers countries in the regions of Africa, Latin America and the Caribbean, Asia (excluding Israel, Japan and South Korea) and Oceania (excluding Australia and New Zealand). These are poor and developing countries. But it includes South Korea, Israel, Japan, and Australia, which are clearly not backward.

The author agrees with I. Khodakov (“Russia as part of the global North in the shadow of the myth of the global South”) that the Global South does not exist. But there is also no Global North - we are a poor country in terms of living standards and are not at the core of the capitalist system. And even now we have a conflict with the North (NATO, the West, Europe, the USA).

But where is Russia?



Although Russia is culturally part of the global geographic North, and its elites are largely pro-Western in orientation (I. Khodakov), which is caused by the liberal matrix of the 90s, it will never be part of the West (global North). Both the current Northern Military District and the possibility of a direct war with the West testify to this. The West does not give us the opportunity to protect our Russian interests in our ancestral Russian lands in Ukraine, because they are afraid that we will become an empire again.

Russia is geographically and culturally a bridge between Asia and Europe. We have combined the best achievements of these two civilizations. But historically, since the times of the USSR, Russia has been consolidating with developing countries, since they are the object of exploitation by the core. And although the United States is now driving wedges into our relations with the BRICS countries, both India and China, also dependent on the United States, do not always support us, we still have more in common with them politically and economically than with the core countries. And the much stronger we are, the more commonality there will be.

China is a semi-periphery, a state that actually outperforms the United States in real economic performance, but is not recognized as a member of the core. According to István Messzáros, China does not have the opportunity to become a “big capitalist country”, in the sense that the existing world system cannot accept China's rise to the rank of a key state. China has ambitions that lead to contradictions with the core and the United States. And our “friendship” with China helps both countries solve their problems, but this is in no way an alliance.

Russia is also a semi-peripheral state that has remnants of the great legacy of the USSR. At the same time, the West, relying on the administration of our raw materials elites, all this time imposed on us the role of the periphery, trying in every possible way to turn us into a raw materials quarry.

Just 12 years ago, in 2010, Russian and European politicians together dreamed of building a large, united Europe that would stretch from Lisbon to Vladivostok. Let us recall that in 2022, the Russian President said that he still considers it possible to create such a project, but only with Europe, which has the right to vote.

But it was the West that did everything to destroy this illusion. If the West had not carried out aggressive actions along our perimeter, Russia could have assimilated and dissolved into the Western matrix. But this is completely impossible, Russia is the antipode of the West, its historical counterweight. The West set other goals - to destroy Russia like the USSR.


It is not for nothing that back in 2016, the American research center Stratfor, which positions itself as a geopolitical intelligence and consulting firm, and is often called the “second CIA” in the media, wrote the following:

“The current conflict with Russia over Ukraine will remain at the center of the international system, but we do not think that the Russian Federation is able to survive in its current form for another ten years...
We expect a noticeable weakening of Moscow's power, which will lead to the formal and informal fragmentation of Russia...
We expect Poland to become the leader of a new anti-Russian coalition, to which Romania will join in the first half of the decade. In the second half of the decade (after 2020), this alliance will play a leading role in the revision of Russian borders and the return of lost territories in formal and informal ways.
As Moscow weakens, this alliance will dominate not only Belarus and Ukraine, but also further east.
All this will strengthen the economic and political position of Poland and its allies.”

Dreams of the Great North


Not so bad for your “partner” in the North? And now the forecasts (ideas) of the Kremlin ideologist Vladislav Surkov (and not only) about the new Great North have arisen:

“There will be a Great North - Russia, the USA and Europe, forming a common socio-cultural space. Triune northern geopolitical cluster...
A common future is predetermined by common roots. The three largest northern civilizations, Russian, European and American, draw inspiration in their political development from the image of the Pax Romana...
The source code of these three metacultures is found in the Iliad and the Gospel. Their relationship is obvious.
Our victory will change both us and the so-called West. It will be a new step towards the integration of the Great North, where our country will act as a co-member of the global triumvirate.
The evil of this day will be replaced by creation. And this will be the merit not so much of the politicians of the future, but of Homer and St. Mark."


From the point of view of common sense, what has been said is largely true. We have more in common with the US and Europe than with China. It would be a great union - but it is impossible by any measure.

Dreams about the Great North speak of a misunderstanding of world history and ignorance of the history and essence of religions.

The West sees us in the Great North only as its territory and colony, but nothing more. We already had such a North from 1992 to 2014 (before sanctions), when the collapse of the USSR breathed a second wind into the core of capitalism, Russia became a sales market and supplier of raw materials, in the 90s the West made us reforms, coordinated and trained ministers, wrote to us laws. China has flooded the whole world with cheap products. Europe received raw materials and gas, and we received cheap imports from Germany and France. It was calm in Europe. But Russia has degraded.

Conflict in Ukraine: separation of Russia and Europe


This design strengthened Europe, and to a certain extent gave us crumbs from the master’s table. Our tourists and capital flowed over the hill. This did not suit the US, and they decided to separate the EU from the Russian pipeline.

Many experts have written that the main goal of the current conflict in Ukraine is to weaken Europe and separate Russia from the EU economy, depleting it as well.


Is it possible to turn back the clock: back to the 2000s or to 1985?


Let’s say that some sober part of the elite (perhaps the EU), like our liberals, would like to return time to 2010. What's bad? Everyone is fine. Cheap oil and gas, and they give us cars. Better than Chinese ones and cheaper. But in this case, it is necessary to end the conflict in Ukraine, which will inevitably entail its division, complete or partial. This situation will not suit the United States, because the division of Ukraine or even the freezing of the Northern Military District means the strengthening of Russia.

But when deciphering such messages, you can offer the worst option. We are offered a well-coded program of the peace party or “turning the clock back” from the oligarchs who have suffered under sanctions - the most pro-Western part of the elites. Since in the Great North of Russia only the role of a vassal, and not a co-leader, is intended, we are talking about the continuation of the assimilation of Russia by the West.

The West was afraid of the revival of Russia's imperial ambitions and, as an option, offered our elites a new year, 1985. In this scenario, on the other side of the scale there may be concessions on territory during the division of Ukraine and investments. And an incredible break with China. Although such a turn of events seems impossible, it is possible to pack this option. However, such a “North” will cause ferment and a split in society, which could be fatal for the system. According to various estimates, 2025 is the deadline for the liberal matrix - then there will be a New Russia.


It is known that the First World War simply fabulously enriched the United States, and the Second - not only, but also made it a world hegemon.

So what is more beneficial for the United States: to create the Great North or to unleash a conflict in Europe, confidently hoping that it will be limited in nature (and there will be no nuclear strike on the United States), to return its hegemony, or to turn the clock back?

Should we strengthen Russia or go all the way, relying on our weakening, which is what Ukraine was needed for? But, having weakened Europe and Russia, the United States would then calmly deal with China. Now the PRC is too selenium, incl. against the backdrop of games with Russia.

Dreams of the Great North are a liberal utopia as a dream of returning to the 2000s and lifting sanctions, fueled by the expectation of Trump’s victory and the possibility of normalizing relations with the United States. However, the conflict has gone so far that with the arrival of Trump, only its freezing is expected. Let’s believe in this miracle, but the old relationship will obviously not be the same. Another question is whether they will let him become president; last time they didn’t, but now they’re hounding him. Although Trump hinted at the end of Ukraine as a state, there are still specific people behind him.


The new 1985 is also an option, but it doesn’t suit us.

Can Russian boots go across Europe again - yes, and the West is pushing us towards this.

Will there be a new Potsdam? Maybe. But only after our victory in a very bloody war outside Ukraine. And the alignment there will be different.

The concept of South and North - informational stuffing


There is a global geographic South as part of the periphery. The concept of the South is an information hoax to justify the concept of the North, bringing in this “stubborn anti-Western” Russia.

Great North: mission impossible


Tell me, why has the Great North never emerged since the time of A. Nevsky? And the Romanovs, having fallen into the trap of the First World War, having relatives in Germany and excellent economic relations with it, fought on the side of the Entente. But the West constantly carried out aggression towards Russia, seeing in us only a source of resources and a hostile culture, primarily on religious grounds.

Indeed, Russia and the West have a common Christian culture, but this is where the central civilizational conflict lies. The West fears us as the bearer of the true Christian (Orthodox) faith and as the heir to its antipode - the USSR, which actively brought completely different values ​​to the world and was an ardent enemy of the West, consolidating with developing countries (now the South).

Spiritually, the conflict with the West goes back to the conflict between Byzantium and the Western Roman Empire (Moscow - Third Rome), and then between Catholicism (Protestantism) and Orthodoxy, which from his point of view are heresy. And the Crusades - what were they?

The only period when Russia and the West had common goals was the period of the First World War, when we were “friends against Germany,” which ended in disaster and then the Second World War with the same goal, and that was largely thanks to the wisdom of F. D. Roosevelt . Once he was gone and the war was over, Churchill gave his famous Fulton speech and the Cold War began.

Cold War 1 ended during perestroika, when they decided to ruin us by cunning. But in 2014, as soon as we began to consolidate the Russian world, Cold War 2 came, and now the Northern Military District and the new “Iron Curtain”. The West can try to be “friends” with us only in the event of a conflict with China.

Russia cannot become part of the global capitalist system (and not just the Great North), because this turns out to be disastrous for us. One of the central reasons for the collapse of Tsarist Russia is that the West purposefully enslaved, exploited and suppressed Russia until this process ended in revolution. And now, starting with the reforms of the 90s, everything is a carbon copy: only instead of gold there is a dollar, and instead of grain there is oil and gas.

The danger of “going to Europe”


Slavophile Nikolai Yakovlevich Danilevsky showed that there are two main cultural and historical types: German-Roman and Russian (Slavic). These are two opposites. Danilevsky prophetically warned us about the danger of “entering Europe.” The experience of the reforms of Peter I and the current reforms also showed what harm thoughtless Westernism can cause.

If Russia finally accepts liberalism, then as a civilization it will inevitably perish, since in the conditions of the current division of world markets, our main role remains - the role of a raw material appendage. The creative spirit of the nation has fallen, a huge mass of people are in poverty due to their uselessness. The nation is degenerating - there is an acute demographic crisis in the country.

In the current model, the main consumption comes from imports, which leads us to a lack of quality jobs. The same 25 million that the president spoke about, setting the task of creating them by 2020 (now 2023), which are being gobbled up by those same imports. According to the latest calculations by Moscow State University specialists (and not only them), in Russia there are actually about 60% of the poor population (for comparison: Rosstat data is 13,5%).

The population of the RSFSR in 1992 was 148,51 million people; as of January 01.01.2023, 146,44, the population of the Russian Federation was 31 million people. In total, over 2,067 years of reforms, the country’s population has not grown, even despite the annexation of Crimea, the total decline is 1990 million people. Since 23, we have lost XNUMX thousand settlements.

There is no point in providing any other data. And if the current liberal reforms since 1992 had a national character, we would long ago have been at least (!) the third largest economy in the world after China.

Russia and the West, but not North and South: conflict of civilizations


The split in civilizations is very clearly visible now that we do not support global trends towards the utilization of Christianity in Europe and the USA through the concept of tolerance, attention to minorities, same-sex marriage and similar heresies. And the West knows that as long as there is an Orthodox Church in Russia, we cannot have any unity with them.

As Fox News host Tucker Carlson said about the causes of the war in response to Congressman Raskin:

“Russia is an Orthodox country professing traditional values. That is why it must be destroyed, no matter what price the United States pays for it.

The current war in Ukraine and the possibility of direct conflict with the West is a religious war, a war of civilizations. That is why in Ukraine they are destroying the Orthodox Church, destroying the Lavra, and wherever possible they are persecuting Russians, the Russian language, and hating the USSR. In the countries of the former USSR, they even get rid of the Russian font. And in Ukraine, stupefied Ukrainians are driven to banal slaughter. They want to destroy Russia in order to get the Orthodox Church out of the way. And that's the ultimate goal of this whole campaign, to connect the world into one and do whatever you want with it.

Nothing has changed since the time of Alexander Nevsky, and this war will not end until the end of time. There will only be setbacks and aggravations. No compromises or negotiations with the West will have a final result.

The only possibility is fear of our power and fear of retribution. So there will never be any Global North. But the partial consolidation of Russian lands against the backdrop of the conflict with NATO will most likely take place.

Russia and the West: difference in essence


The fundamental difference between the West and Russia lies in the context of their civilizational matrices, based on different interpretations of Christianity: Catholicism (Protestantism) and Orthodoxy. The Russian people have long strived for piety, which is caused by the close connection between Orthodoxy and culture. According to our philosopher I. Ilyin, this gave rise to such qualities of the Russian people as the desire for truth, justice, sympathy and mercy, solidarity, brotherhood, conscientiousness, endurance and sacrifice.

According to I. Ilyin:

“The soul of the Russian people has always sought its roots in God and in his earthly phenomena: in truth, righteousness and beauty.”

According to N. Berdyaev,

“The Russian people... are characterized by greater communitarianism than the peoples of the West; they have little characteristic of Western individualism.”

This phenomenon is called conciliarity, that is, the voluntary union of citizens on the basis of love and faith.

According to N. Berdyaev:

“Russian national thought was nourished by the feeling of God’s chosenness and God-bearing nature of Russia.”

Russia is called upon to be the liberator of other peoples, which is reflected in numerous wars. We saved Europe from Turkish aggression, from Napoleon and Hitler. We will also get rid of the current Western brown plague. Russia is the only stronghold of true Christianity, a messianic country.

According to the theory of M. Weber, the emergence of capitalism was associated with the peculiarities of the Protestant ethic. Capitalism developed in the Protestant countries of England and Holland, the USA, and Germany. According to Protestants, a sign of divine blessing is a person’s financial situation; the richer he is, the more chosen he is. This approach fundamentally contradicts the ideas of Orthodoxy.

Having fallen into this delusion, the West has achieved gigantic successes in the material, but the spiritual has been abandoned. As M. Weber wrote the same: “The era of the XNUMXth century, full of intense religious life... ended... the impeccable clear conscience... accompanying profit.”

Finale


So, Russia’s mission is to ensure geopolitical balance in the world, from the world’s slide into chaos, to confront global evil, to preserve true moral and religious values, and in the near future – to build a new, more effective economic model. In the new world, Russia is called upon to become a world leader, both economically and spiritually.

When the world government consolidates the entire world under its thumb, including the Global North and the Global South, Russia will become an island (according to Tsymbulsky) and will exist as a separate civilization. Perhaps someone will join us - if they can. And this is quite colorfully described in Yu. Voznesenskaya’s novel “Lancelot’s Pilgrimage.”

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  1. 0
    4 October 2023 04: 12
    Why is it believed that without distractions from the EU and Russia, the United States can easily beat China?
    1. +2
      4 October 2023 08: 30
      Quote: Andrey Moskvin
      Why is it believed that without distractions from the EU and Russia, the United States can easily beat China?


      Because the resources of the United States are not infinite.... it is one thing when you are holding back one enemy, but quite another when it is a group of countries (China - Russia - Iran - North Korea) and it is not a fact that new independent powers will not appear in the future.

      And where the United States has a huge advantage is its ability to create alliances/coalitions and redirect all resources (of this association) to solve some problem... for example, to contain China, or to direct resources to help Ukraine, etc. Unfortunately, we don’t know how to do that. In addition, if a serious conflict begins between the USA and China, it will not be easy for the Americans... there will be a struggle in all areas and no one knows who will win in the end.
      1. 0
        4 October 2023 17: 47
        I thought you were answering the question, but you ended up with the same doubt as me. sad
  2. +12
    4 October 2023 04: 29
    Delusional fantasies, devoid of any sense.
    And now the forecasts (ideas) of the Kremlin ideologist Vladislav Surkov (and not only) about the new Great North have arisen

    It is even more strange to propagate the opinion of a person born under the name Aslanbek Andarbekovich Dudayev, who does not have a single significant case behind him...
    1. +10
      4 October 2023 08: 06
      Why not? He and Akhmetov sold a certain ruler ideas about the depravity of the Russian World, which was covered up in 2014 for these “citizens” in the Donbass to cut up the dough. And with whose idea did they mislead the various Minsks under the numbers? About which a certain ruler said that he was deceived (eight years of deception). Decent people resign after this, but not in our country and not in “our region.”
    2. +3
      4 October 2023 08: 22
      It is even more strange to propagate the opinion of a person born under the name Aslanbek Andarbekovich Dudayev, who does not have a single significant case behind him...

      Why not no, there is. Oversaw the unrecognized republics, LPR, DPR as well. In fact, he shaped the GDP’s understanding of the problem. what

      Now we have what we have...
    3. +1
      4 October 2023 09: 02
      We don’t promote it, we reveal it :)) But there’s a lot to do. He is one of the authors of manageability of democracy, the architect of our strategy in Ukraine, which led to the Minsk agreements. Eminence grise. Peace to you and all the best
      1. +1
        4 October 2023 16: 33
        Historians have mentioned “managed (conducted) democracy” since the late forties, at the latest, when describing Athens under Pericles :-) So his ideas are secondary, worn out, as usual... Well, we don’t have Pericles at the head, with all due respect. Although common ground can be found... The cunning failed plan of the Peleaonesian War, all that :-)
  3. 0
    4 October 2023 04: 33
    The West fears us as the bearer of the true Christian (Orthodox) faith and as the heir to its antipode - the USSR, which actively brought completely different values ​​to the world and was an ardent enemy of the West, consolidating with developing countries (now the South).

    That is, our Christianity is true. And we are the heirs of the USSR.
    Was the author a pioneer or a Komsomol member? Did you receive a Komsomol card from the hands of a true abbot?
    Well, how can you split like that???
    Yes, work. Yes, a lot of comments are needed. But have time to change colors from religion to politics from one paragraph to another...

    “The soul of the Russian people has always sought its roots in God and in his earthly phenomena: in truth, righteousness and beauty.”
    The pre-bankruptcy state of Rusnano and the words that there is “a lot of money” in Rusnano - is this about the truth or about righteousness?
    1. +6
      4 October 2023 08: 29
      Quote from Fangaro
      The West is afraid of us... and as the heir of its antipode - the USSR

      What kind of "heir" is this? The one who is trying to quickly forget everything socialist, for the sake of the triumph of private property of a limited circle?

      To Article:
      ..to ensure geopolitical balance in the world, from the world’s slide into chaos, to confront global evil... a more effective economic model... to become a world leader - both economic and spiritual.

      Author, curb your appetite. Having 1,7% of the population and less than 3% of the world’s GDP, aren’t you setting your goals too global?
      Or just another propaganda campaign? Then it's okay.
      1. +1
        4 October 2023 09: 19
        As A Nevsky said, God is not in power, but in truth. The USSR was the second economy in the world, what is stopping us? But increasing GDP is not a problem, and even the population is too. We just need to improve the country’s health by ridding it of Yeltsin’s legacy
        1. +5
          4 October 2023 09: 56
          The USSR was the second economy in the world, what is stopping us?
          Slippery floor, tight shoes, tight trousers?
        2. +4
          4 October 2023 10: 16
          Quote: Alexander Odintsov
          Increasing GDP is not a problem

          “Drawing” is not a problem, but actually increasing...
          During the 14 years of industrialization (1928-1941), the Union commissioned more than 5,2 thousand large industrial facilities alone, fixed assets increased almost 4 times (from 49 to 190 billion rubles), this was the great and unprecedented work of tens of millions people inspired by a common idea, and the country’s population itself has grown significantly over the same years. Now let's fast forward to reality. Do you see hints of new industrialization?
          Quote: Alexander Odintsov
          but in truth

          There is enormous power in truth if it is supported by the goods of thousands of factories, the labor of tens of millions of healthy workers and a modern, combat-ready army.
          Quote: Alexander Odintsov
          The USSR was the second economy in the world, what is stopping us?

          That's what I'm talking about. How was it possible, at such a start, to arrive at the existing reality?
          Quote: Alexander Odintsov
          We just need to improve the country’s health by ridding it of Yeltsin’s legacy

          Yes, you know how to “get rid of” it. They built and built, and on you...
          1. +3
            4 October 2023 11: 50
            Yes, you know how to “get rid of” it. They built and built, and on you...
            And it will apparently be Yeltsin’s heirs who will get rid of Yeltsin’s inheritance.. Probably, the inheritance will be put up for auction as collateral or in some other way. An advertisement will be posted on Avito smile
    2. +1
      4 October 2023 09: 06
      What are you speaking about ? He was a pioneer and Komsomol member. I don't regret it at all. Our Christianity is true, everyone who understands the matter knows this. And we are the heirs of the USSR - yes, that’s all for sure. Regarding Rusnano, there is a section where it is shown that the liberal system has no future. That's why Rusnano is bankrupt. So the connection is direct. All the best.
      1. +4
        4 October 2023 09: 57
        He was a pioneer and Komsomol member. I don't regret it at all. Our Christianity is true, they know it
        And you became Orthodox when being an atheist became out of trend? smile
        1. +1
          4 October 2023 10: 53
          This happens to almost every person. Some don't. When you understand then it happens
          1. +3
            4 October 2023 11: 46
            It’s clear what’s not clear, there are different winds, different ideas, the wind has changed, it makes no sense to spit against the wind.
          2. 0
            4 October 2023 14: 31
            Beliefs, like gloves, don't change. Or were you originally Orthodox at heart?
            1. 0
              4 October 2023 16: 35
              Those. Initially, I was not at heart a pioneer and a Komsomol member :-)
  4. +3
    4 October 2023 05: 18
    If at the end of the article it was stated that Russia has a special mission to maintain balance and order in the world, and this is correct, then at the beginning of the article we absolutely should not have presented this Surkov as a global thinker or even some kind of “gray eminence” who determines what Russia should follow the path and for some reason Russia is obliged to come to where the liberals who clearly place unnecessary importance will show it to their person. Another thing is that if Russia now does not have a clear and obvious path along which it should follow, then without fish there will be cancer, i.e. Surkov, fish.
    But what is proposed in the article is how we, I quote, turn back the clock: back to the 2000s or to 1985, such a proposal is a mistake on the verge of a crime. The clock needs to be turned back not to the 2000s or 1985, but to 1945, when the Stalinist USSR did not finish off the entire fascist-Nazi people, and correct what the USSR did not complete then. And, naturally, turning back the clock at that time, we must puzzle ourselves with the question - inside the country, Stalin imprisoned a little too little, put them against the wall and exiled them, or imprisoned a little the wrong ones, put them against the wall and exiled them. So there is a time frame for turning back the clock, and then correcting the mistakes made.
    1. +1
      4 October 2023 10: 06
      Everything is correct, you write but you don’t fully understand. The article reveals the essence of Surkov’s idea as an attempt at liberal revenge and the danger of this idea. In other words, this is a drain on the SVO
    2. +3
      4 October 2023 13: 53
      > The clock should be turned back not to the 2000s or 1985, but it should be turned back to 1945, when Stalin’s USSR did not finish off the entire fascist-Nazi people

      Half the country was in ruins, 27 million dead, the country was on the verge of famine... And do you think that it was necessary to go to the English Channel in such conditions? To fight with a multimillion-dollar army and a superior military-industrial complex (ask how much the USA produced even without a total mobilization of industry) of the Anglo-Saxons? Even if they were thrown into the sea, they would have to fight for years (because the chances of capturing England and the USA were zero, and they would rather die than give the entire continent to the communists), regularly receiving nuclear strikes on cities, raids by thousands of bombers and a complete blockade. Why does Stalin need it? Yes, he would have been shot on the spot as a pest for such a proposal. And so we got half of Europe in 1945; aiming for more would be very stupid.

      Or do you mean that it was necessary to cut out the “Nazi-fascist population” to zero? And what then are the differences from the Germans?
  5. +6
    4 October 2023 05: 38
    and in the near future - in building a new, more efficient economic model.
    Either socialist monarchism, or monarchist socialism. Yes? laughing
    1. +3
      4 October 2023 08: 36
      Quote: parusnik
      Either socialist monarchism, or monarchist socialism.

      Monarchical capitalism with a sweet human face...
    2. +2
      4 October 2023 08: 39
      Quote: parusnik
      Either socialist monarchism, or monarchist socialism. Yes?

      in “Dolls” there was a series where Lukashenko said “You give capitalism with a socialist face,” then “You give socialism with a capitalist face,” and in the end, doomedly, “you give capitalism with a capitalist face, or socialism with a socialist face.” lol hi
    3. +1
      4 October 2023 09: 08
      According to predictions, the monarchy will be restored in Russia. This is hard to believe. And the system will be like in China or Germany - they based it on our heritage.
      1. +5
        4 October 2023 09: 36
        And the system will be like in China or Germany - they based it on our heritage
        And what’s new? If the system is like in Germany and China? You write: “in building a new, more efficient economic model,” if the model repeats the model of China and Germany, what kind of new is it? Moreover, as you write, “they based on our heritage?” What is our heritage? Russian Empire or USSR?
        1. +1
          4 October 2023 10: 08
          There is another article: Why the restoration of the USSR,
          perhaps partial - still inevitable There is a clear explanation at the end Of course we are the heirs of our past and it is with us And the USSR and Tsarist Russia are with us now
          1. +2
            4 October 2023 12: 00
            So what new form of society do you propose? In your understanding, what do you want to inherit from the Russian Empire, and what from the USSR?
    4. +5
      4 October 2023 09: 51
      I don’t know how it is with socialist, but it seems to me that we are already making strides toward new-feudal monarchism.
      1. +5
        4 October 2023 09: 59
        Don’t worry, we’ll soon slip into the primitive communal, we’ll forget about phones and other goodies, we’ll communicate using drums.
        1. +3
          4 October 2023 10: 32
          But I don’t worry, I’m the one out of 20 million. wassat
  6. +4
    4 October 2023 06: 03
    Quote: north 2
    that Russia has a special mission to maintain balance and order in the world, and that’s right

    Yes, this is just a cunning trick from psychology - to tell the reader that he is from a special country, has an important mission - playing on banal ambition (pride)
    1. +1
      4 October 2023 10: 12
      Vladimir, it’s not me who’s saying this. It’s our Russian philosophical thought who’s speaking. And not only. I'm just a wretched person who can only quote this...
      1. +1
        4 October 2023 16: 37
        Guess what the German/American/Chinese/Korean/Japanese/etc says. philosophical thought? :-)
  7. +6
    4 October 2023 06: 58
    Half-digested mince of school knowledge, semi-mystical distractions, as well as the thoughts of former semi-educated advisers.
    But for today's fragile minds it will do. wink

    For those who want to stand on solid ground, you can start by studying the map. Before attributing the United States to the North, it would be nice to make sure that New York is at the latitude of Yerevan, and the northern border of the United States runs south of Voronezh. Yes
  8. -7
    4 October 2023 07: 40
    All power to the Soviets!

    Quote: A. Odintsov
    liberal utopia as a dream of returning to the 2000s

    2000s - This is the starting point of the revival of Russia, and the liberal utopia is the beginning of the 1990s. They dream about this - about returning to the 90s, they dream of robbing, not creating.
    The headline is subconsciously negative, directed against our president, universally elected by the people. Fie on you, once again!

    There are three established civilizations in the World. These are: European civilization, the civilization of the East and the civilization of Rus'. Not yet established civilizations: Islam, Latin America and Africa. We will help them become like that. The world will be multipolar!

    The meaning of ranting about the North and South is one - to destroy the civilization of Rus'. To prevent other nations from establishing themselves as a civilization. Leave one dominant North and the South as a vassal. Nothing will come of this, bad gentlemen! The world has changed without turning around. There will be no return to the previous model of managing the World!

    Rus' was, is and will be!!!
    1. +1
      4 October 2023 09: 11
      Rus' was and will be. The title is due to the fact that in the 2000s we continued our course towards a “handshake” with the West. And the same President proposed joining NATO. Then everyone realized that this was a mistake. But I really want to come back! All the best.
      1. -4
        4 October 2023 11: 54
        Quote: Alexander Odintsov
        the same President proposed joining NATO

        And today Putin is for negotiations... This is Putin’s troll, who understands perfectly well that Trap will never agree to this. laughing

        It will not be possible to destroy what the Trotskyists have been building since 1952 overnight. Step by step, and now Russia has challenged the West... The West has come to its senses, but it’s too late.

        ps
        Now the West is promoting the theme that Putin does not govern the country...
  9. +3
    4 October 2023 07: 50
    The world system cannot accept China's rise to the rank of a key state

    The world system simply physically cannot allow the standard of living of the Chinese to become equal to that of the West. What will she live on then? Because there can only be one vacuum cleaner on the planet, and it’s impossible to live on your own money like in the West.
    1. +3
      4 October 2023 10: 14
      I’m afraid the fact is that China is physically unable to give such a large population a high standard of living. China is an American project directed against the USSR. And they don’t want to admit it because they, like us, are strangers to them.
  10. +2
    4 October 2023 08: 10
    That is, judging by the article, the author was unable to counter Surkov’s article with any significant arguments, except for the phrase how
    liberal utopia as a dream of returning to the 2000s
  11. 0
    4 October 2023 08: 15
    I have always been confused by the fact that people with the same ideological core first deliberately destroy a great country, and then strive to create an empire. The history of our country shows that Russia expanded, fighting off raids both from the north and south. Both from the east and west. It was opposition raids and created the moment for expanding borders. All dreams of creating an empire in its past form, to put it mildly, are in vain. History creates states. And not the ideas of individual people. No matter how tempting they may be.
    1. +1
      4 October 2023 08: 39
      Quote: Nikolay Malyugin
      people with the same ideological core

      With what???
      Quote: Nikolay Malyugin
      strive to create an empire

      Where?
  12. +5
    4 October 2023 08: 50
    Russia is called upon to be the liberator of other peoples, which is reflected in numerous wars. We saved Europe from Turkish aggression, from Napoleon and Hitler.

    from Turkish aggression?! Near Vienna in 1529 and then 1683?! And about Hitler, “our philosopher” I. Ilyin spoke like this
    1. +1
      4 October 2023 09: 16
      Here Ilyin and I disagree. But unlike Berdyaev, he was against the communists. This is a mistake. The communists saved Russia and even changed capitalism. There was such an eastern question and it was resolved. We stopped Turkish expansion and liberated many countries from the Turks. Even schoolchildren know this. Peace to you
      1. +2
        4 October 2023 09: 36
        Quote: Alexander Odintsov
        We stopped Turkish expansion and liberated many countries from the Turks. Even schoolchildren know this.
        Turkish expansion was stopped by the Poles, Austrians, the Holy League, but certainly not Russia. Rather, it took advantage of the decline of the latter.
      2. 0
        4 October 2023 09: 42
        The communists saved Russia and even changed capitalism
        and how did they change it?
        1. +2
          4 October 2023 10: 16
          The role of the USSR is not in the “production of galoshes.” The peaceful competition of socialism and capitalism ultimately led to the improvement of capitalism in developed capitalist countries, the state began to intervene in the economy, normal labor and pension legislation was adopted, income equalization was carried out, and a middle class appeared. As the American researcher L. Kaplan believed, Stalin was the man who saved capitalism. And this is not the only point of view.
          1. +1
            4 October 2023 17: 55
            Yes, you can take a pie from the shelf. And once again build something that will save capitalism at our expense.
  13. +4
    4 October 2023 09: 07
    All this is very similar to terry idealism, diluted with leftist ideas for popularity.
    South, North, world evil, Ilyin (uh...like a pro-fascist), Berdyaev...

    In reality, the behavior of Imperialism was predicted long ago by the left. And quite accurately, as we see.

    Local comprador capitalism wildly boasts about how it exports raw materials to the West, while at the same time waging a wild campaign “we are white, the West is black”, simultaneously bombing Kiev (which you know who did before him), legally prohibiting himself, the rich, from calling up, having done this “a tax for the poor” (according to the alleged statement of one of the “Elite”) and profiting handsomely even during the SVO (according to a number of cited ratings of oligarchs)

    Lifelong presidencies in Africa and Latin America were called Plutocracy?
  14. +1
    4 October 2023 11: 16
    Without returning to the “Red Project” created by Stalin, who brought Russia and the peoples who inhabited it into world leaders, all talk is pounding water in a mortar.
  15. +2
    4 October 2023 11: 24
    Recently, ex-Kremlin ideologist Vladislav Surkov shared his “Dream of the Great North” and his forecasts: “There will be a Great North - Russia, the USA and Europe, forming a common socio-cultural space. Triune northern geopolitical cluster...” To understand another wild “duck”, you need to remember this “Actual State Advisor of the Russian Federation, 1st class” - ex-pom. V. Putin. And, as usual in a modern gop company, the name Surkov is fake, and the real one is Dudayev. And the “canard” is that a “destruction specialist” will never be a builder! Let's look at his deeds. The stages of life’s journey are instructive: Khodarkovsky’s bodyguard, in 1996. Head of Menatep Bank, 1st Deputy Pred.bank "Alfa-Bank". But since August 1999 - deputy. Hand. Administrator of the President of the Russian Federation. He was considered the creator of the United Russia party. American Congresswoman Ileana Ros-Leytinen called Surkov “one of the main ideologists of the restriction of freedom of speech in Russia, the persecution of Russian journalists and representatives of opposition political parties.” Ross. human rights activists and oppositionists called V. Surkov the coordinator of illegal activities to rig election results, destroy political competition, organize campaigns against public organizations, as well as create “detachments of young stormtroopers” like the “Nashi” movement. Before the SVO, he lost his position, but published poems where he confirms his belonging to the one to whom they pray: “Our master is Dennitsa *, we recognize his style. For Christmas, instead of snow, he sends us dust." “God will forgive himself, and him, and the hundred thousand Judas.” “Let them drive me through the cold city, And across the bridge, Straight to where the blizzard awakens the Old Churchyard. https://warsh.livejournal.com/1590628.html
    But his main pearl is about the Northern Military District: https://lenta.ru/news/2023/04/04/surkovss/ “All non-holiday dates have been lived through, Someone else’s spring and at the end of the day. In the ruins of the sky, dead soldiers, Scaring the birds, sing: “Don’t for me..."" That's it! There’s no need for a psychiatrist here, - Downed pilot! Since “dead soldiers sing, and even scare the birds with their singing!” It seems that someone, one of those “extremists” whom he vehemently persecuted, nevertheless cursed him and his Master. So, the Global North was shot down by this pilot.
    1. +3
      4 October 2023 14: 05
      The description is very figurative, but in the end it turned out to be quite accurate hi
  16. +1
    4 October 2023 16: 37
    I see great deceit in this, which is now extremely fashionable and common. We are quite rightly invited to see the aggressive aspirations of the Western powers and the Hitlerite fervor of the ideologists of the local political and cultural mainstream, but that’s all, and the framework of Western orientation does not disappear anywhere, only a negative sign is demonstratively attached to them. There is no call to pay attention to the harm and danger of the looming dependence, but on China, in such alarmist speeches. With a soothing smile, we are asked to close our eyes to the expansion of Wahhabism and the whole bunch of similar movements of foreign origin.
    And there, notes of smerdyakovism begin to be visible, a well-known motif appears in the background about our deterministic insignificance as a people, about unworthiness, second-classness and about the need for us, a priori despots, to proceed to a barracks or a stable, so that someone good and smart (and what kind of anything, as long as it’s more exotic!) made the best use of us to achieve his – first-class and correct, of course – goals. In general, from all sides different Ulysses are showering us with horses. How come they haven't gone broke yet?..
  17. -2
    5 October 2023 09: 15
    There are several interesting points. Recently, there have been many reports that everything is bad for the Ukrainian Armed Forces. The second is the problems of the Ukrainian Armed Forces with Poland. Third, there are problems with US aid and a split within the US over this aid. So the outcome of this whole campaign could be interesting. New negotiations? Hence Surkov's message.
  18. -1
    5 October 2023 20: 59
    Finale
    Pathetic nonsense (philosophically colored agitprop)...