Children are our continuation into the future

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Children are our continuation into the future

As strange as it may seem to you, I want to start with our athletes, the vast majority of whom really want to compete at the next Olympic Games. It's a good thing to represent your country. But there is a nuance!

What do the new creators of the Fourth Reich require of us? IOC head Thomas Bach said that Russian and Belarusian athletes could be allowed to participate in international competitions in a neutral status if they did not publicly support the SVO and were not associated with the armed forces or national security agencies.



All this means that the athlete must comply with the following points: 1) a neutral athlete must not be associated with his country, 2) must deny his national flag and anthem, 3) deny his association with the national Olympic committee and national sports federation. Essentially, everything taken together means renunciation of the Motherland.

Guberniev, however, broadcasts from every angle that in this case, too, the athletes will represent our Motherland. Oh? Insignia is important. It is no coincidence that since ancient times it was considered a shame to lose identity with the Motherland. Among the ancient Romans, for example, the loss of the legion sign led to its immediate disbandment. Or imagine that the Red Army soldiers were asked to take off their shoulder straps and fight the Nazis in a “neutral” status.

So state symbols are not just pictures and sounds.

Why am I writing all this?

And to the fact that athletes are ready to give a damn about everything, just to receive payments for their mere participation in games where only the lazy, starting from the IOC and ending with WADA, did not kick us or throw slop at us.

Where did these pathetic people come from, for whom there is neither a homeland nor a flag? Who made them like this?

Yes, you can point to the environment, to the course the country has taken 30 years after the 1991 coup. But the basis of education is family. We will talk about it in this article.

Maternal glory under socialism


On July 8, 1944, by Decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR, the title and order “Mother Heroine” was established - the highest title awarded to mothers of many children. The Order of Maternal Glory was also established in three degrees, which were awarded for the birth of seven, eight and nine children, respectively, and the Medal of Motherhood in two degrees - for the birth of five and six children. All awards were awarded when the last child reached the age of one and if there were other children of this mother alive.

Legally adopted children were also taken into account. Children who died or went missing while defending the USSR or while performing other military service duties were also taken into account. Or when fulfilling the duty of a citizen of the USSR to save human life, to protect socialist property and socialist law and order.

For all history Soviet state, approximately half a million mothers were awarded this title.

In addition, there were benefits. These benefits were secured by decrees and regulations. From priority service to pension benefits. The last large package was adopted by the Soviet authorities in 1981. Yes, these benefits were small, but they showed that the state understood the importance of demographic policy.

At the same time, a tax policy was pursued for small families - those who had no more than two children: parents of one child had to pay the state 30 rubles per year, those with two children - 15 rubles per year. The childless were also charged a tax of 90 rubles per year. The tax was imposed on men aged 20 to 50 years and women aged 20 to 45 years.

As we can see, the tax was relatively small, so the cries that commies were forced to give birth under pain of deprivation of earnings are inappropriate in this case. By the way, pay attention to the tax age period. Women from 20 to 45 years old. That is, the most optimal age for childbearing. We will return to this below.

Any qualified psychologist will tell you that in a large family, a child has more opportunities to grow up to be a kind and sympathetic person, unless, of course, the family is problematic. Caring for each other from early childhood is the best teacher and educator. This is how people grow up ready to sacrifice themselves for the common good, starting with a piece of bread and ending with their lives for the sake of the happiness and lives of other people.

In a family where there is only one child, he, as a rule, grows up to be an egoist, because he does not see examples that a person can and is obliged to sacrifice his personal interests for the sake of others. A parent pampers their one and only child with everything they want. And he, not seeing boundaries to satisfying his needs, ceases to understand the importance of behavior in a group.

The decline in the number of children in a family began in the Soviet Union. But then the norm was a family with two children. One child in a family was quite rare. Unfortunately, I could not find statistics on this matter, so I am guided only by personal experience. If anyone can provide statistical data on this issue, I would be grateful.

Demographic catastrophe


The 1991 coup d'etat led to a catastrophic decline in the standard of living of the overwhelming number of citizens of the former USSR. Survival became the main goal of the average family, and the child began to pose a threat to the stomach. It's scary, but it's a fact. During the 9 years of Yeltsin’s rule, every person was encouraged to not care about the general and strive to satisfy only their own needs.

Since 2000, a slight recovery began, the economic collapse moved from an acute stage to a stabilization stage, and welfare began to gradually increase. But the state policy towards the family remained the same: we were called to hedonism, a career was made the meaning of life, and children were made an undesirable obstacle to a successful and carefree life. This is where the roots of our athletes’ disregard for both the flag and the Motherland grow. Everything in the world is interconnected. For that fought for it and ran.

A targeted policy to reduce the population has led to the fact that women do not want to give birth. Their car and career come first. The rest is after 30 or 35 years. Or maybe later. From a biological point of view, you can become a mother from 15 to 50 years old. If we talk about the optimal time for the birth of the first child, then it is advisable to do it from 18 to 25 years.

And it is quite obvious that with age, the number of unwanted problems that relate to women's health increases. But there are also women who deliberately have abortions so as not to give birth in their youth, for the sake of their selfishness, for the sake of pleasure. And warnings that late pregnancy can be dangerous both for the health of the woman and the unborn child do not stop them. “Enjoy here and now” is their motto.

When I ask why they don’t want to give birth, young girls, as a rule, answer that they will have a child to interfere! You won’t be able to go to the theater, you won’t be able to sit in a cafe, let alone travel. The child has become a hindrance! And they talk about this completely calmly.

To the credit of some, not everyone thinks so. But they have other arguments. One of them is that there is no one to look after the child in case of urgent need. As we remember, the authorities are categorically against grandparents caring for their grandchildren. Well, so that there would be no thought of sitting with grandchildren, the retirement age was raised.

However, there is another reason for late pregnancy: large companies seek to avoid payments for child care and, wittingly or unwittingly, take all measures to prevent a woman from thinking about pregnancy. These are not soulless commies who created job security for pregnant women, maternity leave, nurseries and kindergartens, here, my dears, the most sacred things are profits and business.

Modern trend


To be fair, it should be said that in recent years the authorities have realized that with this approach, the oligarchs may be left without human material that will work in their enterprises. And then the first law on payments for the second child was adopted. And now the question is: how many Russian families do you know in which they immediately began to give birth to a second or even third child? I don't know, I haven't met it.

And who began to use this law? Absolutely right! Valuable foreign specialists! A few months ago I had a conversation with one of these indispensables. When I reprimanded him that he was a guest here, not the owner, and must follow the rules of our society, he said something like this:

“Eh, this is your land now, but where is your child? No child? And I have five of them. And in twenty years, yours will become mine. They will grow up, and we will become masters of our land!”

It becomes scary that the original Russian land is becoming depopulated by a great people. And there are no visible measures to correct the situation. Payments for birth will not save you from demographic problems.

Constantly nodding to the demographic holes caused by the Great Patriotic War is not comme il faut. In the end, the Soviet government did not complain about tsarism, but simply began to take effective measures to increase the birth rate. After the terrible war, the population of the USSR grew, albeit slowly. In our country, only foreign diasporas are growing, attracted by the opportunity to receive payments for maternity capital. Russians don't want to give birth. And those who want to, face difficulties that discourage all desire to have children.

And finally, a few words about mortgages.

On the one hand, mortgages help solve the housing crisis. But, on the other hand, it drives a person into such debt slavery, which, coupled with rising prices for everything, drives away any desire not only to have children, but also to start a family. The value of family, which has been preserved in Russia since time immemorial, has ceased to be so. How can one not recall Lakhnovsky from the film “Eternal Call”:

“The human brain, people’s consciousness are capable of change. Having sowed chaos there, we will quietly replace their values ​​with false ones and make them believe in these false values. We will find our like-minded people, our allies and helpers in Russia itself! And not even the right word – we’ll find it. We will make as many of them as necessary. Let's just act slowly now. With a long and sure aim."

The dialogue is very large, it is impossible to insert it completely. But I advise you to find it on the Internet and read it in full. There is a program for the destruction of Russia, which is followed by the “enlightened civilized” world. And there are also laid the roots of the phenomenon from which the demographic pit of our society grew. Or will you argue about the fact that we have been sold false values ​​for 30 years?

What conclusion do I want to draw?

There is only one conclusion. Until we change the ideology of society (and it still exists, even though the absence of ideology is enshrined in the Constitution), there will be no changes in public consciousness, no matter how much we talk about the guilt of the Bolsheviks, Polovtsians and Pechenegs. Only the transition to new socialism is able to restore the power of consciousness and the natural Russian spirit. When speaking about the Russian spirit, I mean all the peoples of Russia in general.

No matter what the apologists of capitalism say, it, in my opinion, only leads to the destruction of the Spirit; just look at the West and the USA, where the decomposition of society has reached, if not a maximum, but a significant degree of degradation. Do you want such a future for your children and grandchildren? I don't.

This means, in my opinion, that the future can only lie with socialism. Capitalism by its nature is not capable of resolving this issue from the point of view of the Spirit, because the Spirit and profit are incompatible.
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  1. +5
    1 October 2023 04: 43
    Strange article. The author proposes to change ideology. How can ideology be changed without changing the ruling class. And if you change the ruling class, then with the help of what mechanisms.

    Yes, again, socialism and capitalism are rather general names. The state can be social under capitalism and at the same time can be antisocial under communism.

    I personally, at this historical stage of the country, do not see demographic prospects for the European Slavic population in Russia.
    1. -1
      2 October 2023 08: 50
      Dear! If I knew what mechanisms needed to be used to change the ruling elite of the oligarchs, I would have written. But I do not know. Lenin worked on this issue for many years and then admitted that a lot of questions always came up. And I, unfortunately, do not have the genius of Vladimir Ilyich
    2. +1
      2 October 2023 12: 26
      Quote: Saigava
      Strange article.

      Pants get in the way of a bad dancer. That's the whole conclusion.
      I live in Israel, and here there are exactly the same “interferences” (according to the author) for starting a family. This is the careerism of women, and the habit of the population to travel without interference, and the culture of giving birth after 30-35, and the “hated” mortgage, in short, the whole set. And yet, the birth rate is 2.9 per woman.
      So the problem here is clearly not the absence of “greenhouse communism” or “socialist ideology.”
      And the author is simply trying to manipulate public opinion, trying to promote his political beliefs under the guise of a “panacea,” openly exploiting this problem.
      A common technique of manipulation and propaganda, the same scheme is used by preachers to lure people into the network of their religion, “believe and you will be healed.” The political instructor pulls a mile away.
  2. +8
    1 October 2023 04: 49
    I have two sons, 40 and 35 years old, and the eldest has a 15-year-old daughter with cerebral palsy. They don’t want to give birth anymore, and the youngest and his wife had no intention of doing so. They travel, previously in Southeast Asia, now in Russia. Previously, I somehow calmly perceived this. But now I’m horrified, the whole clan will soon die out! And not only mine. My sons' spouses will also run out!
    1. -1
      1 October 2023 07: 39
      For laughs, not demographics.
      The beginning is word and deed: it’s good to stay at home, it’s bad to striptease and belly dance. The destruction of the entire consumer culture. I am for. What else will happen? Minister of Culture or AP? Questions and answers will be empty. So far there is no one to listen to the answers. Who will voice it? If you have no idea how to change pop and mass culture.
      Watch Truth and Komsomol 50 years ago?
      Force all our powerful people to express their attitude, speak it out and set a personal example. They are 1-3% of the Russian population
  3. +8
    1 October 2023 05: 52
    The gloominess that is imposed on us from TV screens certainly does not encourage procreation. In such conditions, we ourselves would survive. But the most interesting thing is that in life everything happens as before. If there are murders or poisonings, then it happens like an emergency in a city with a population of millions. A person simply cannot survive in made-up stories on TV. Even a nuclear war is not necessary. But women who are going to become mothers watch this. Previously, a woman in this position was not allowed even look at the fire. We don’t take care of our people. We destroy them by something that doesn’t exist at all.
    1. +14
      1 October 2023 06: 06
      The gloominess that is imposed on us from TV screens is certainly not conducive to procreation

      But it seemed to me on the contrary, you turn on TV - either a show where everyone is having fun and singing, or eating and traveling. The population is fooled and believes that the purpose of life is an endless stream of pleasures....
      1. +19
        1 October 2023 07: 39
        Quote: Vladimir80
        The population is fooled and believes that the purpose of life is an endless stream of pleasures

        Did you read "Dunno on the Moon" as a child? If you read it, then you probably remember that there was an Island of Fools? Everyone there was having fun and playing and didn’t think about anything. In the end they turned into sheep
        1. +4
          1 October 2023 11: 35
          I doubt that today’s children know who Dunno and the other Pilyulkins with Screws and Shpuntiks are from books. Even the last cartoon was published in the late 90s. And then all the Luntiks.
          1. +1
            2 October 2023 20: 55
            bandabas (bandabas). Yesterday, 11:35. NEW. yours - "...I doubt that today's children know who Dunno and the other Pilyulkins with Cogs and Shpuntiks are from books..."

            You know, that's not the question. what they know or read... watched. Although it’s worth reading and comparing “Dunno in the Flower City” and “Dunno on the Moon”. To represent the difficult years of stagnation and the flourishing of democracy. belay
            in many ways THIS depends on the parents... My friends specifically bought videos of our cartoons and good American ones (pr. Bambi...). especially for their children and exchanged
            The main thing is to lay down the algorithm bad - good good .
            in the 90s, the grandson of a decent-looking lady of Balzac's age betrayed the Americanism embedded in it. Granny in the taxi couldn’t find change in her pockets and asked her grandson to lend HER to them for travel. He had pocket money (change) in his pockets. The grandson, of course, borrowed it and PROUDLY “made” the granny happy for the whole salon - “Take it. Of course, you’ll pay it back later and I won’t charge you ANY INTEREST! belay feel Granny. blushed...At that time, an American cartoon about Mac Duck was often shown on TV.

            Nowadays there are often good and old movies. broadcasts go on after 22.30... And all sorts of rubbish and vulgarity with Americanism from the morning until 21.00. Although it seems like WE don’t have permission to show them at our place due to sanctions. And the question of the morality of showing “Saving Private Ryan” and “Captain America” instead of “Caravan Hunters” and others has been discussed for a long time and that’s all! feel
            For example, the question of introduction to physical SAMBO in schools is for this purpose. to raise DEFENDERS OF THE FATHERLAND. and buttons. The Sambo-70 experience is very useful for the development of a strong person and for character. good
            Otherwise... Gasters in MMA with dispor money and articles in the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the FSB of the Russian Federation on their “exploits”. But ours are few and preparation is often “0”! The schools probably train ballerinas.
      2. +5
        1 October 2023 08: 38
        Quote: Vladimir80
        But it seemed to me on the contrary, you turn on the TV... the purpose of life is an endless stream of pleasures....

        PR people do their job well, they know very well what the electorate is greedy for. With a 95% probability, a person will be interested in either some kind of pleasure (fun) or some kind of “horror” (disaster, murder, etc.). In general, it is not clear how cultural television and radio channels now survive.
        1. +3
          1 October 2023 08: 57
          they know very well what the electorate is greedy for

          Another surprising thing is that the war did not wake up this “electorate” in any way and it mainly continues to “eat” the crap that is slipped to it...
          1. +4
            1 October 2023 09: 20
            Quote: Vladimir80
            that the war did not awaken this “electorate” in any way

            To begin with, the powers that be and the media try not to use this word.
            The Soviet people began to show mass patriotism and self-sacrifice not since June 22.06.41, XNUMX...
      3. +5
        1 October 2023 09: 39
        The population is fooled and believes that the purpose of life is an endless stream of pleasures....

        Yes. Consumerism is what it is.
    2. +5
      1 October 2023 08: 32
      Quote: Nikolay Malyugin
      fire. We don’t take care of our people

      We?
  4. -5
    1 October 2023 06: 02
    The future probably belongs to socialism, although some reproduce under capitalism.
    But socialism will definitely do without those who themselves abandoned it. Natural civilizational selection is underway.......
    Harsh but fair.
    1. -1
      1 October 2023 06: 08
      The future belongs to transhumanism, for which the governments of all countries are drowning - the computer will decide who you should be and what to do, and when to take a pill and turn into humus...
      1. -1
        1 October 2023 06: 29
        I don’t know what a computer will decide in the future, but for now in the past and present - - over three decades, only the number of abortions among Russians without computers is greater than during the Second World War.
    2. +7
      1 October 2023 08: 41
      Quote: ivan2022
      Natural civilizational selection is underway.......
      Harsh but fair.

      Exactly, “people who don’t fit into the market are not interesting, they are not needed,” someone already said that...
      1. +1
        1 October 2023 17: 48
        Quote: Doccor18
        Quote: ivan2022
        Natural civilizational selection is underway.......
        Harsh but fair.

        Exactly, “people who don’t fit into the market are not interesting, they are not needed,” someone already said that...

        Is everything okay with your memory, good gentlemen?
        Otherwise I can refresh...

        These little people made their own choice in 1991 and 1996.....heh...heh...I don’t remember that there were big protests and unrest...but I remember how the collectives voted FOR privatization... laughing

        And exactly 30 years ago, little people watched on TV as the defenders of the White House and people's deputies died... Well, was it interesting?

        And now the deputies have to watch as the children of those observers die.... . I suppose it's also interesting?
  5. +3
    1 October 2023 06: 08
    A somewhat strange train of thought by the author. Starting with problems with demography, jump to the problem of migration (although there is a certain, indirect connection here) and end with slogans about the social system in the country.
    Well, let it be. Now, to be convincing, it remains to give examples existing, successful, developed socialist states laughing. Don't offer China! It is difficult to call a country socialist where there is no state monopoly on the means of production and dollar billionaires on almost every corner. By the way, have they even started paying pensions not only to civil servants and the military?
    1. -5
      1 October 2023 06: 35
      Unfortunately, most people do not know the difference between capitalism and socialism. The main difference is not in the nationalization of enterprises, but in the greater powers of the elected authorities.
      Napoleon was also involved in nationalization in France, but he was not a communist.

      And the conclusion is simple: where peoples are active, they will not allow themselves to be destroyed. And where they are passive, they will be given such rulers that the peoples will actively destroy each other.

      If the people are not involved in politics, politics is involved in the people. Everything is clear with the “three united Russian” people. In December 1991, he even allowed himself to be separated by just three dudes in a Belarusian forest at night....

      This level doesn’t even match capitalism... This is some kind of surrealism... Nonsense in “ward number 6”
      1. +7
        1 October 2023 07: 07
        Quote: ivan2022
        Unfortunately, most people do not know the difference between capitalism and socialism. The main difference is not in the nationalization of enterprises, but in the greater powers of the elected authorities.

        Hmm... interesting interpretation of the definition of social system. Don't be afraid that for such, the classics of Marxism-Leninism will rise from their graves and come to you in your dreams every night? laughing
        1. -1
          1 October 2023 08: 50
          Good morning . I don’t understand what capitalism or socialism has to do with it? What is the dispute about? You can give birth in any system. State policy is important. Previously, there were not so many options for preventing pregnancy. And everyone liked the “process” itself; nature took its toll. A medal probably won’t encourage anyone to have children now. We need other ways. Both with the help of a long ruble and at the legislative level. I know, I know, now they will tell me that we have democracy and freedom, everyone should decide for themselves whether to have children. So let everyone make their own choice. If you don't want to have children, pay tax. And this tax can be sent to families with many children. And starting from school, convince them how important it is to have at least 3 children. Vel having only two, it is impossible to improve the demographics. So that they don’t blame me for teaching others. I have three children and seven grandchildren.
          1. +8
            1 October 2023 11: 07
            Quote: Blacksmith 55
            So let everyone make their own choice. If you don't want to have children, pay tax. And this tax can be sent to families with many children

            Very good idea. But what about those women who have health problems? Should they also be paid? Or if you have a medical certificate, you don’t have to pay? And all this with the flourishing of commercial medicine...
            1. 0
              1 October 2023 11: 13
              This issue is very easy to solve. Those who cannot, naturally need to make an exception, as they say - the goat understands. But the state must take a leadership role. Without the people there is no state. And it is better to do something than to do nothing.
              1. +3
                1 October 2023 13: 46
                Quote: Blacksmith 55
                This issue is very easy to solve

                I wonder how?
                Quote: Blacksmith 55
                Those who cannot, naturally need to make an exception, as they say - the goat understands

                So where is the solution to the demographic problem? Any woman will give birth to one child (or two) and will have a “magic certificate”...


                Quote: Blacksmith 55
                But the state must take a leadership role

                So a leadership role is not enough; you must first understand what to do, then how to do it. And millions of us know how to move their hands...
                Quote: Blacksmith 55
                And it is better to do something than to do nothing.

                Of course, many people made fun of maternity capital, but at a certain time it greatly contributed to the birth rate, especially outside large cities (where a square meter is more affordable). Of course, maternity capital will not be able to solve the demographic problem, and its attractiveness has faded after price inflation, but at least it’s something. Increase maternity capital by three times now, and this impetus will be enough for several more years of the baby boom...
              2. 0
                2 October 2023 22: 49
                Disabled people, of course, do not have to pay tax. But those who cannot, but are healthy, must pay. This money is for those who have children. By the way, in the USSR the tax was 8% of wages.
        2. +1
          1 October 2023 18: 00
          Quote: Adrey
          . Don't be afraid that for such, the classics of Marxism-Leninism will rise from their graves and come to you in your dreams every night? laughing

          Honestly, I admit that I’m not afraid of anything except cretins... But I’m terribly afraid of them. For their name is "legion"

          And I always advise them in advance to read “The Development of Socialism from Utopia to Science” by Engels at night. (From the third chapter I took Engels’ words about Napoleon and his nationalization) And also “State and Revolution” - Lenin.

          It helps a lot, but not for everyone. But only for those who are not yet complete nerds and are able to cope with a book with a volume of about 100 pages.

          PS Unfortunately, in the vast majority of cases, no therapy helps - it’s Fate to be like this. For over the 70 years of Soviet power, among 200 million of these books, 99,9% were not read from beginning to end....
    2. +1
      1 October 2023 06: 55
      Quote: Adrey
      Starting with problems with demography, jump to the problem of migration (although there is a certain, indirect connection here)

      Yes, as it turns out, there is a connection and it’s not indirect... The fact that childfree and homosexuality are promoted by direct foreign agents and slightly more hidden agents of influence is no secret to anyone, but the fact that the encouragement of “labor” migration to Russia was financed and encouraged by almost everything new time by the same people and from the same sources, this is news for me... Usually they talk about the economy.
    3. 0
      1 October 2023 08: 44
      Quote: Adrey
      By the way, have they even started paying pensions not only to civil servants and the military?

      The population there is slowly but surely aging. For the first time in a millennium, it has stopped growing and, on the contrary, is decreasing. What pensions...
      1. +3
        1 October 2023 21: 20
        However, China's pension system is expanding to cover more and more people.
    4. -8
      1 October 2023 09: 51
      Quote: Adrey
      A somewhat strange train of thought by the author.

      Yes, in general, there is nothing strange, in my opinion. Another unproven empty talk about the “exemplary USSR” as opposed to “dying Russia”. The author does not support his statements with evidence, confident that “people are gobbling it up” anyway. Sometimes a simple lie is used. Well, for example, what kind of large enterprise refuses to pay so-called “maternity benefits” to women giving birth? Name, address...? Court decisions? Considering that maternity benefits are paid not by the employer, but by the Social Insurance Fund directly to the employee. As soon as any writer begins to assert that
      A targeted policy to reduce the population has led to the fact that women do not want to give birth.

      the assumption immediately comes to mind about the author’s purposeful desire to arouse in the reader hatred of his state. How relevant is this for us in today's military situation? This is exactly what our enemy is trying to sow in our ranks. And yes, you are right, the completely humane idea of ​​socialism-communism, when implemented in practice, ran into the materialism of human essence, which it was not able to overcome in any country.
      1. +7
        1 October 2023 10: 57
        Quote: Hagen
        Another unproven empty talk about the “exemplary USSR” as opposed to “dying Russia”.

        Do you think it's the other way around?
        1. -1
          1 October 2023 15: 55
          Quote: Stas157
          Do you think it's the other way around?

          In my opinion, this problem of demography is much more complicated. Secondly, Russia is a completely viable state, to the detriment of the author and some of his admirers.
      2. -1
        2 October 2023 11: 35
        You have learned remarkably how to look for enemies of the people!
        1. 0
          2 October 2023 12: 30
          Quote: roosei
          You have learned remarkably how to look for enemies of the people!

          Someone knows how to find enemies of the people, someone knows how to carry noodles on their ears... I don’t think that the skill in the second point is more honorable than the first. I'm used to analyzing information and I don't like it when someone tries to get into my head. Do you take all local authors on faith? You have the right to feed crooks. The question is, how useful is this for you?
  6. +1
    1 October 2023 06: 15
    Key words of the article: "Capitalism by its nature is not capable of resolving this issue from the point of view of the Spirit, for the Spirit and profit are incompatible."

    When capitalism appeared in Tsarist Russia, it led to the Revolution.

    History may repeat itself.
    1. +10
      1 October 2023 07: 15
      When capitalism appeared in Tsarist Russia, it led to the Revolution.

      But the classic of Marxism wrote that the problem is the underdevelopment of capitalism in Russia, that it practically does not develop in Russia, burdened by feudal remnants, and not that it exists. By the way, indicating the way out of the crisis: the “American way”, not the “Prussian” one. laughing
      For Russia, capitalism was certainly an advanced system compared to “serfdom.”
      So the modern problem with “capitalism” lies in the same area. The counter-revolution of 1991 returned the country to underdeveloped capitalism with feudal, now at the mental level, remnants.
      And in this regard, there has been constant degradation, regression, over the past 30 years along the path from Stolypin to Alexander III and Pobedonostsev, and the ghost of Nikolai Pavlovich is already looming on the horizon.
  7. 0
    1 October 2023 06: 36
    for Spirit and profit are incompatible

    But the classic work on this subject is called “The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism.”

    PS I’m not arguing, I’m just pointing out the striking contradictions, the problem described in the article is correct, but here are the proposed solutions in the style of “against everything bad, for everything good.”
    1. +3
      1 October 2023 08: 47
      Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
      But the classic work on this subject is called “The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism”

      Why do you consider this work classical? There is the same classic, who refuted this and stated that capitalism did not hatch from protestantism, but is simply religion on its own...
      1. +1
        1 October 2023 10: 15
        There is the same classic who refuted this and stated...

        If you are talking about Benjamin’s work, then it is unlikely that in his sketches he was able to refute Max Weber (not being a fan of the latter, but recognizing his enormous contribution to the study of the history of capitalism).
        And if “capitalism is a religion,” then it is logical that all the “futures” in this article are irrelevant.
        Now we have decided on the ideology in Russia laughing -This religion is capitalism. laughing What then are the questions? what kind of Spirit is this? l'esprit des lois? or l'esprit du peuple?
        Kidding laughing
  8. +16
    1 October 2023 06: 39
    Until we change the ideology of society
    Who are we? And how many of you are there? And how will you change? Did you write an article for the ruling class? Will he become emotional and return to socialism? Will the bees give up honey? The President has already...instructed Mishustin to develop measures to solve the demographic problem within a week.. So quickly ,demographics will begin to grow smile Society must realize, first of all, that the current path of development is a dead end... But so far, society has not yet realized that it is engaged in self-survival in existing conditions, it has no time to think about high matters.
    1. +9
      1 October 2023 09: 01
      Quote: parusnik
      within a week, develop measures to solve the demographic problem..

      A whole week!? Well, there should be enough time for everything... It’s true that it’s not clear how many trillions will be allocated for this problem...

      Quote: parusnik
      Society must realize, first of all, that the current path of development is a dead end.

      Society is divided, considerable efforts have been made to achieve this, mass migration completes the project. And to understand, you need to think about it, read books, but it’s not fashionable now.

      Quote: parusnik
      no time to think about lofty matters.

      On the one hand, yes, on the other hand, even unnecessary thoughts are driven away when there is time. They don't take root. Professional guys worked on this for a long time and well...
      1. +9
        1 October 2023 11: 06
        Society is divided, considerable efforts have been made to this end
        Yes, some people need socialism, some don’t, some don’t care, the latter are more numerous.
    2. +1
      2 October 2023 11: 38
      we are a society. but not power. because the authorities benefit from migrants and the reduction of the indigenous population. If it were different, migrants wouldn’t come here like that
  9. +2
    1 October 2023 07: 04
    A very subjective view of the author.
    The child has become a nuisance! And they talk about this completely calmly.

    This is, first of all, said by mothers who give birth to 3-5 children, only because of maternal capital. And there are many Russians among them. Having mastered dependency professionally, these families pass this way of life on to future generations. These families do not think about upbringing, education, provision, considering the act of childbirth as “an act of work completed”: “We gave birth to you - then it’s “your” problems.”
    Every time we talk about the topic of social support, “those with many children” are indignant that free lunches are tasteless, the interest rate for withdrawing maternity capital is high, etc. Their happiness is only in free camps, where they can drop out of school to “improve their health.”
    But then, unclaimed lazy people become a burden to the people. Where should they go? Only at MegaWagner.

    The problem of Russia's demography is not low birth rates. The problem is the invasion of the “irreplaceables”. The author is right about this. This disaster is worse than defeat in the war in Ukraine.
    1. +1
      2 October 2023 11: 40
      This is, first of all, said by mothers who give birth to 3-5 children, only because of maternal capital. And there are quite a few Russians among them
      I will honestly say that I myself have not personally met Russian families with more than three children. But I’m not saying that they don’t exist. if there is, it is a tiny amount
  10. -8
    1 October 2023 08: 01
    Quote: samarin1969
    lazy people become a burden to the people.

    lazy people usually grow up when one or two children and everyone around them is spinning and spinning, paid clubs, phones and tablets, paid schools... in families where more than two children can grow up lazy only with a very “high level of grooming” (if there are servants and governesses)
    1. +8
      1 October 2023 08: 34
      Lazy people usually grow up when there are one or two children and everyone around them is spinning and spinning, paid circles,

      Good morning.
      As I understand about “lazy people,” this means that in families where the only incentive for having children is maternal capital.
      Due to economic circumstances, it is children from low-income families who become “lazy.” In modern conditions, it is not possible to acquire any labor skills (this is not in the USSR), except throwing out garbage and washing dishes, but this is not what we are talking about, and about systematic work, as a result, the level of knowledge in school is low, there are often no teachers in the subjects, zero knowledge of the Unified State Exam, the environment rarely stimulates anyone to work.
      And those who are in paid clubs, English, etc., are forced to strain, work, do something every day, whether you want it or not. As a result, by the 11th grade, even with super laziness: high sports ranks, knowledge of foreign languages ​​+ trips abroad to language camps, etc.

      I write this not as a condemnation, but as an explanation: in the current economic conditions, those who have more knowledge and skills, for which they pay money, win.
      In the USSR, of course, there was also a difference between capitals and regions, but not so much a flashy one; after the army, I came from the provinces and entered a university in the capital; there was real equality in knowledge. Now: this is heaven and earth. There is nothing to talk about here. Without “paid clubs” only a few can make it to the top.
      1. +2
        1 October 2023 08: 39
        in the current economic conditions, those who have more knowledge and skills, for which money is paid, win

        It’s doubtful, connections and relatives decide - there are plenty of examples both in the sphere of public administration and in leading commercial corporations...
        p.s. knowledge matters at average income levels
    2. +4
      1 October 2023 09: 39
      Quote: Vladimir80
      lazy people can grow up only with a very “high standard of living” (in the presence of servants and governesses)


      Out of thousands of students, I have never encountered tutors or their “victims.” But I come across second-generation parasites every day.

      p.s. I agree with Eduard Vashchenko’s thoughts. Most non-poor people are quite demanding of their children. There are not as many idiots among them as they show in the movies.
  11. -17
    1 October 2023 08: 22
    All power to the Soviets!

    Quote: A. Biryukov
    Until we change the ideology of society (and it still exists, although the absence of ideology is enshrined in the Constitution)

    Once lied, who will believe you?

    We read the Constitution of Russia and shake the noodles from our ears:

    Article 13
    1. In the Russian Federation is recognized ideological diversity.
    2. No ideology can be established as a state or mandatory.
    3. In the Russian Federation are recognized political diversity, multi-party system.
    4-5 ....

    One article of the Constitution refers to ideology and politics - this is not accidental. The carriers of ideology are people united in parties:
    - United Russia, leader - Medvedev, ideology of exploitation of man by man;
    - Communist Party of the Russian Federation, leader - Zyuganov, Mraksi ideology;
    - LDPR, leader - Slutsky, liberal democratic ideology;
    - etc..

    Leaving one ideology, we will leave one party.

    The author does not talk about a change in concept, about Russia’s turn from building a slave-owning society to building a society of justice (justice is when contracting parties come to mutual agreement). No! He needs the only party in the country - United Russia with its misanthropic ideology. United Russia, which has a constitutional majority in the Duma, will not allow the ideology of another party to become the state one, and having received at its disposal the entire repressive apparatus of states, it will drive the remaining parties under the plinth...

    We do not like the internal policy that United Russia (Medvedev) is implementing through the adoption of relevant laws in the Duma, in accordance with its ideology. So who wants to make it “eternal” and the only one?
    1. +9
      1 October 2023 08: 48
      Quote: Boris55
      LDPR, leader - Slutsky, liberal democratic ideology

      Yes, there is no ideology there at all...
      1. -3
        1 October 2023 09: 00
        Quote: Luminman
        Yes, there is no ideology there at all...

        Agree. I'm talking about what they declare, and so...

        Medvedev, who has a constitutional majority in the Duma, easily passed the Pension Reform Law. Without hesitation, I fulfilled the IMF's wishes...
        Zyuganov, like any leader, of any party, who dreams of translating his ideas into reality at the highest post in the state - did not materialize. Instead of himself, he offers anyone...
        Slutsky - dreams of negotiations with Zelensky and admitting defeat to Russia....

        All existing parties are inscribed in the dominant concept, the purpose of which is to faithfully and truly serve the master, be it Western or Eastern, as long as there is someone... Without this, they are nothing and nothing to call them.
    2. +3
      2 October 2023 11: 47
      Sorry, but I consider United Russia a party for profit and, on principle, I do not shake hands with those who are members of it. It’s sad that they wrote me down as a supporter of the cannibal party, although I clearly write that I support socialism
  12. +10
    1 October 2023 08: 23
    But family is the basis of education.

    The state is at the core, the family after the state.
    And the culprits in the photo are also those whose interests they represented and represent.
    [Center]
  13. +11
    1 October 2023 08: 25
    In socialist Cuba the birth rate is 1.6, in socialist China 1.3. In the Muslim Arab Emirates 1.3.
    Fertility rates are declining everywhere. In Russia, it has declined most rapidly in Chechnya over the past 10 years.

    The problem is not so much the low birth rate as the struggle for a high birth rate: now those who have an income of less than 3.5 thousand rubles. per family, they pay 14 thousand rubles. per month for a child under 17 years of age. And Tajiks are rushing to Russia for passports in order to live off benefits.
    And the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Ministry of Labor are happy that citizenship statistics are good and the birth rate is improving.
    And each Tajik family costs the budget a million, including benefits, expenses for schools and kindergartens (100 and 130 thousand per year per child), and medical expenses (43 thousand per year per person).
    1. +7
      1 October 2023 12: 01
      Quote: Ivan Seversky
      And each Tajik family costs the budget a million, including benefits, expenses for schools and kindergartens

      Speaking of schools... Yesterday I read the news, everything about it is “wonderful”:
      Ten children were injured by pepper spray at school No. 16 in Klin, Moscow Region. One of the students decided to disrupt the lesson.

      According to our information, the day before, around 10 am, 14-year-old Khushnud B. sprayed pepper directly under his desk during class. To go home early. As a result, half the class was poisoned, and the security guard called an ambulance. Most of the guys were helped on the spot.

      Three had to be hospitalized with mucosal burns. These are 16-year-old Mavluda A., and 14-year-old Victoria Sh., and Biblayma A.. Doctors are now monitoring their condition.
      1. +1
        1 October 2023 14: 05
        Quote: Hyperion
        This is 16-year-old Mavluda A., and 14-year-old

        The difference is two years, and in the same class.......
    2. 0
      1 October 2023 14: 03
      Quote: Ivan Seversky
      in socialist China 1.3.

      Where did you see socialism there?
      Quote: Ivan Seversky
      In Russia, it has declined most rapidly in Chechnya over the past 10 years.

      As of 2020, the Chechen Republic ranks honorably first in Russia in terms of birth rates, 19,6 per thousand population.
      Quote: Ivan Seversky
      And each Tajik family costs the budget a million

      Who cares, because their move is encouraged at the very top, which means everything is going according to plan.
  14. +4
    1 October 2023 08: 31
    As for the mention of athletes at the beginning of the article, the cult of athletes, like the cult of singers and artists, is dangerous not only by their egoism, but also dangerous by their unconditional talent to quickly “change shoes right in the air.” So, the death bed of the USSR has not yet cooled down, but
    Iran Rodnina had already changed her skates in the air and fled to America. True, she quickly realized there that she would not have the same glory there as in Russia, and after the portion of dirt on duty from such defectors on the country that taught her, raised her and gave her everything, she changed her shoes once again in the air - changed into a suit for meetings in the State Duma and returned to Russia. And there are thousands of them in that cult. So, how are they different from those who now, in difficult times, changed their shoes and turned out their skins to cross the Upper Lars, and then again turn out their skins and return to Russia when the country overcomes difficulties and plays here for us the role of “patriots” of Russia .
    1. +1
      1 October 2023 18: 37
      athletes are more likely to listen not to the uragorlopan, but to the national team coach Valera Karpin - *tick abroad everyone who can*
      It’s idiotic, instead of a multi-million dollar contract, to go into a trench for a ration of stew and waste a short career
  15. -5
    1 October 2023 08: 35
    In terms of demographics, IMHO, they don’t give birth because there is nowhere to live.

    The solution is simple - families of 4 children and above are given an apartment or house of 100 sq.m. on social rent for 25 years with the right to subsequent privatization.

    If we build apartments in sparsely populated regions, we will kill 2 birds with one stone. hi
    1. 0
      1 October 2023 08: 50
      Quote: Arzt
      Build apartments in sparsely populated regions, so we’ll kill 2 birds with one stone

      Or even all four at once:

      Quote: Arzt
      ... families from 4 children...

      The fact is that in sparsely populated areas, as a rule, there are “not very good” jobs, kindergartens, hospitals, schools and other such goodies.

      That's something like request Yes
      1. -7
        1 October 2023 09: 28
        Or even all four at once:

        I guess, yes. 2 more bunnies:
        3. It won’t hurt to run from your apartment with 4 children to Upper Lars.
        4. Let us settle the national republics of the Caucasus in a small, diffuse manner, and it will be calmer for them and for us. wink

        The fact is that in sparsely populated areas, as a rule, there are “not very good” jobs, kindergartens, hospitals, schools and other such goodies.

        Well, firstly, “not very” in all regions except Moscow and partly St. Petersburg.
        Therefore, there will certainly be people who want to leave the warm HOSTEL in Shebekino for their OWN APARTMENT in cool Komsomolsk-on-Amur.

        And secondly, who is stopping us from immediately building new microdistricts with hospitals, schools and other goodies. Until the expansion of KnAAZ. good

        PS 5th hare. Adopted children can be counted. We will resettle the orphanage. Yes
        1. -1
          1 October 2023 09: 40
          Quote: Arzt
          3. It won’t hurt to run from your apartment with 4 children to Upper Lars

          Nonsense. They were running - just on the road, I saw it myself, don’t argue.

          Quote: Arzt
          4. Let us settle the national republics of the Caucasus in a small, diffuse manner, and it will be safer for them and for us

          Oh yes you are kind. Did you also decide to give away apartments with this (censorship)? So you have:

          1. There won’t be enough sparsely populated areas; they are, ahem, multiplying too quickly.
          2. There is not enough budget - for the same reason.

          And in general, I consider it wasteful to feed migrants at the expense of the budget (that is, at my expense too).

          Quote: Arzt
          to cool Komsomolsk-on-Amur

          Have you been there at least once? fool laughing

          Quote: Arzt
          who is stopping people from immediately building new neighborhoods with hospitals, schools and other goodies?

          It's clear. Also one of the dreamers, that is. The dialogue is over, communicate, or even with Shpakovsky or something...
          1. -6
            1 October 2023 10: 14
            Nonsense. They were running - just on the road, I saw it myself, don’t argue.

            Of course there are some. But your home is your home. I have 2 runners at work, both homeless. It makes no difference to them where to film and work, in the Moscow region or in Batumi.

            Oh yes you are kind. Did you also decide to give away apartments with this (censorship)? So you have:

            1. There won’t be enough sparsely populated areas; they are, ahem, multiplying too quickly.

            I lived with them for 5 years, and not everything is so simple there. That's why they multiply because of the traditions of their ancestors. And the traditions of our ancestors are our small Motherland. He’ll go to Vladik, and you’ll see that the mentality will change slightly. Stalin understood this. wink

            And in general, I consider it wasteful to feed migrants at the expense of the budget (that is, at my expense too).

            Why only migrants, we are also talking about indigenous people. A surge in the Russian birth rate is guaranteed. Yes

            It's clear. Also one of the dreamers, that is. The dialogue is over, communicate, or even with Shpakovsky or something...

            2. There is not enough budget - for the same reason.

            Why dreamer, we are just discussing a solution to the demographic problem.
            Khrushchev easily and unobtrusively resettled a QUARTER of the population into his apartments. At the same time, the army was rearmed and man was launched into space.
            So the question is not about the budget, but about the PRIORITY of its distribution.

            The 300 yards that hung in the west and would be used to arm the enemy could be used on apartments and houses here.
            With an average cost of $50 per apartment, that's 000 MILLION apartments. 6 million people, of which 24 are children under 20 years old.


            So much for the demographics... wink

            And what other fat Hares could be killed...

            6. All the young people who received apartments would immediately switch from Navalny to the Great and Kind! laughing
            7. This feat of the Great and Kind would remain for centuries forever! drinks
            1. -5
              1 October 2023 10: 27
              Quote: Arzt
              300 yards, which hung in the west and which would arm the enemy, could be used on apartments and houses here

              Another gomnomethodist. These "300 yards":

              - the essence securing loans available at that time. That is, everything is not real money
              - out of “300” they found (“partners”) something about 50, EMNIS. Although they were looking. What does it seem to be hinting at? wink

              Nothing, learn the materiel...

              Quote: Arzt
              the question is not about the budget, but about the PRIORITY of its distribution

              Well, yes. According to your wonderful proposal, it (the budget) will be “gobbled up” by migrants (in the first place) and the Caucasus (in the second place). The goal, EMNIP, was to “raise the birth rate among Russians”? Congratulations, you... did not reach.

              And in general - IMHO you still have a lot of chatter and “analogies”, and not enough knowledge of the subject and elementary mathematics... really, go talk to Shpakovsky. You're just right for each other Yes stop
              1. -3
                1 October 2023 11: 14
                And in general - IMHO you still have a lot of chatter and “analogies”, and not enough knowledge of the subject and elementary mathematics... really, go talk to Shpakovsky. You are perfect for each other yes stop

                I studied the “subject” very well the hard way.
                In dorms, rented huts and other places unsuitable for habitation, such as first-aid posts and former warehouses of military units. Yes
                That’s why they gave birth to two, but there was no thought about a third. stop

                And then they would have offered me full-fledged housing, I’m sure, 3-4 - no problem. hi

                PS It’s simple with migrants - the law is extended only to spouses BORN IN RUSSIA. That is, the next, already Russified, generations.
    2. +1
      3 October 2023 14: 57
      I am 36 years old. Specialist, not in a leadership position. I have my own large and spacious house, two children and a wife on maternity leave, and I can only afford a third child if the living conditions of all other family members deteriorate. In crowded but not mad? Maybe so, but I have no confidence in “tomorrow” at all and I won’t take that risk. Now let’s project my situation onto other Russian people + - my age and we get the current demographic situation with the slow extinction of the Russian people.
  16. +7
    1 October 2023 08: 41
    For governance in unipolar Russia, a strong and healthy people poses a greater danger than the Anglo-Saxons. A healthy people's body will not tolerate the dominance of parasites, and the Russian Federation is in the forefront of countries with the greatest social inequality. To preserve capitalist “games” it is necessary to suppress the forces of competition in society. Hence the endless reforms, restructuring, optimization in the country; biologists know that adaptation in such conditions is impossible.
    Mat. capital seems like a good thing, but in the long term, in fact it weakens the Russian people.
    In socialism, the main value is in coincidence with the natural organic nature of the population. In the USSR the coefficient decile – 3-5 was. In the Russian Federation – 16-30 (up to 1000, - presence of 3rd level consumers). In European countries there are 3-6!? Because the capital of the “civilized” dumps entropy in others, while the Russian one dumps entropy in his own people, this is the special meanness of our capitalism.
  17. -3
    1 October 2023 08: 45
    Quote: Arzt
    In terms of demographics, IMHO, they don’t give birth because there is nowhere to live.

    How is it that there is nowhere to live? The population is declining, an incredible amount of housing is being built - but there is nowhere to live?! as long as a person puts his personal opinion and his personal comfort first, nothing will change... IMHO
    1. +4
      1 October 2023 11: 46
      How is it that there is nowhere to live? The population is declining, an incredible amount of housing is being built - but there is nowhere to live?! as long as a person puts his personal opinion and his personal comfort first, nothing will change... IMHO

      This is unaffordable housing for a large family. They would like to feed themselves.

      What do you mean by comfort?
      Two bunk beds for children in one room, one double bed for parents in the second and a common room-kitchen for everyone? Don't forget about a toilet with a bath, at least one.

      This is the minimum to just PHYSICALLY accommodate. wink
    2. +8
      1 October 2023 12: 04
      Quote: Vladimir80
      How is it that there is nowhere to live? The population is declining, an incredible amount of housing is being built - but there is nowhere to live?
      How come there is no money? Abramovich has billions, an incredible amount of money is floating around - but no money?
      Quote: Vladimir80
      As long as a person puts his personal opinion and his personal comfort first, nothing will change...
      Whose opinion and whose comfort should come first in your opinion?
  18. +7
    1 October 2023 08: 46
    "Who made them like this?"

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    I answered your question.
    "Payments for birth will not save"
    Recently there was a program by Norkin on NTV on this topic. And no matter what they said, and what they didn’t offer, but no one said what’s the point of these payments when the minimum salary is 16 thousand rubles. When housing is expensive and with a salary of even 50 thousand rubles per family, no one gives birth to more than one. I wouldn't live to be fat! Pensioners with low pensions are forced to work until their death. And who will babysit the grandchildren?
    Armchair experts understand everything, because they have no other country, because they don’t transfer their money to offshore companies, and they don’t buy property abroad. And when Putin has ministers in the government with permanent residence and other citizenship, I’m not even talking about the DG, so who will they work for and who will they think about!!!
  19. +8
    1 October 2023 09: 22
    . the 1991 coup led to a catastrophic decline in living standards... Survival became the main goal of the average family, and the child began to pose a threat to the stomach.

    Judging by the fact that there has been a decrease in the birth rate, we began to live well, like in Europe!! Well, that's what the guards always talk about.
  20. +2
    1 October 2023 09: 29
    Well, actually, in the RSFSR, the fertility index fell below the reproductive threshold back in the mid-60s, and this continued until the very end of the 70s.
    After a brief surge, demographic indicators have plummeted downward since ’88, not since ’92.
  21. +6
    1 October 2023 09: 37
    When conversations begin about changing ideology, patriotism, spirit, etc., I immediately want to take up the machine gun, because all these changes, as a rule, will result in an empty talking shop on TV, the creation of new management structures, warm positions and new taxes on rabbits and garden beds in the country, so that maintain these positions.
  22. +4
    1 October 2023 09: 40
    Quote: Luminman
    Quote: Boris55
    LDPR, leader - Slutsky, liberal democratic ideology

    Yes, there is no ideology there at all...

    How is it not? Isn’t it an ideology to stick to the budget and live a satisfying life?
  23. +10
    1 October 2023 09: 45
    No matter what they say about the USSR, the main achievement was “confidence in the future.” At least officially, but when official propaganda “sagged,” and this was the 80s, the birth rate fell.
    About myself: I’ve already noted my fifty kopecks, I don’t have children and never will have them, they “remained in the demographic hole of the 90s.” Then they reminded me that they won’t even take a “tax for childlessness” from me.
    Those who have children or are planning to have them, are you sure that they will live better than you? We have been living in a new state for 30 years, but the elite has never explained to us what we are worth. Well, for themselves, the elite have already decided that we are building a Russia of 1913 with elements of February 1917, but what about the rest of the population? Let me remind you that we live in a country of victorious fascism, and the dividing line is not based on the shape of the skull, kinship, blood, but on wealth. "Whoever doesn't have a million dollars is nobody, there's dust under his feet." @ Ksenia Sobchak.
    As it is fashionable now, let’s translate it into a business model. The birth of a child means that we, husband and wife, are harnessed to a 20-year investment marathon. The question is about trust in your other half (remember the divorce statistics?), and it’s unknown what we will have in 20 years. And you will have to invest your money, your time, and ultimately your life.
    ZY, I speak as a gamer. Sometimes you pause a strategic game, lean back in your chair and think, “Well, what am I doing, and most importantly, why?” But this is life, you can’t “pause” for reflection, and the “Start over” button doesn’t exist in principle.
  24. +9
    1 October 2023 09: 47
    Quote: North 2
    As for the mention of athletes at the beginning of the article, the cult of athletes, like the cult of singers and artists, is dangerous not only by their egoism, but also dangerous by their unconditional talent to quickly “change shoes right in the air.” So, the death bed of the USSR has not yet cooled down, but
    Iran Rodnina had already changed her skates in the air and fled to America. True, she quickly realized there that she would not have the same glory there as in Russia, and after the portion of dirt on duty from such defectors on the country that taught her, raised her and gave her everything, she changed her shoes once again in the air - changed into a suit for meetings in the State Duma and returned to Russia. And there are thousands of them in that cult. So, how are they different from those who now, in difficult times, changed their shoes and turned out their skins to cross the Upper Lars, and then again turn out their skins and return to Russia when the country overcomes difficulties and plays here for us the role of “patriots” of Russia .

    I think that they dumped them in Upper Lars simply so that the flippers would not get stuck together for some unknown reason, but this does not threaten the patoiots, they show their patriotism from the screens, well, of course, it happens that they choose a tavern in the area where the art is active, well, this is from an excess of patriotism.
  25. +7
    1 October 2023 09: 57
    Quote: Vladimir80
    Quote: samarin1969
    lazy people become a burden to the people.

    lazy people usually grow up when one or two children and everyone around them is spinning and spinning, paid clubs, phones and tablets, paid schools... in families where more than two children can grow up lazy only with a very “high level of grooming” (if there are servants and governesses)

    You, my dear, are clearly very behind the times, phones, laptops, computers are now a basic need and not just for playing. Most clubs are now paid and they are desirable and necessary, especially language ones. Often, where there are governesses and personal teachers, children grow up much more hardworking and disciplined than those where there is a crowd of them and they are left to their own devices. Many rich people practice parenting in the style of Chinese tigers.
  26. PPD
    +8
    1 October 2023 10: 04
    How many books have been written... wassat
    When I ask why they don’t want to give birth, young girls, as a rule, answer that the child will bother them!

    And how many girls did the author interview in order to generalize and draw conclusions like that?
    Three thousand? Four, but from different regions? Something tells me that no one at all.
    Another moment - who told him that an unknown man approached the girl, she would answer the question sincerely, especially on such a delicate topic that does not concern him at all. Moreover, given in such a formulation.
    Some people suggested that you give birth right away, there is no need to study.
    Do you know such a minister?
    And quite simple questions, like, is there something to it, don’t come to his mind. It seems to the author too. request
    My wife is on maternity leave with a child, my husband, as they wrote here, is a security guard in Moscow for 60 you (where they dug up such numbers). Do you think that’s enough? And for how long? For one? At 2-3?
    Mom and her husband don’t need to eat.
    They'll make do with pasta.
    Where will they live? In 1 room in an apartment with grandma?
    Why think about “little things”?
  27. +11
    1 October 2023 11: 32
    This has long been known. Again, an article with good wishes, which everyone already understands. But nothing can be done:
    1) Putin repeated many times: there will be no return. 2) there is a sharp increase in the fortunes of the oligarchs. before the NWO, and after. 3) the population is declining. 4) migrants are imported, instead of creating better conditions for their citizens.

    And a separate point about athletes. So they train all their lives, ruin their health, life, brains, suck up to officials and sponsors.... in the hope of performing well at the World Cup, European Championships, Olympic Games, so that their life is not wasted.. and give them a place in the Duma for retirement, for example (or meet the oligarch)
    And suddenly - a complete collapse of hopes. Mutko stirred up something there. (this is a wave of indignation for the inner ears, and this is how doping officials admitted it many times). And we have to go to court ourselves, without the help of the state, and prove our innocence. A lot of people have proven it's good.

    Then another crash - SVO. And for some reason some (Putin’s people) continue to play in the NHL, etc. in NATO, while others...don’t? life lived in vain? all this training for nothing? because someone else, in a warm office, with a good suit and a watch, with children, “talented businessmen”, palaces and yachts - thinks something in their own way? T

    Hard choice.
  28. -1
    1 October 2023 11: 43
    For athletes. One "major" has already represented her homeland. And there are “legion” of them.
  29. +2
    1 October 2023 12: 03
    Quote: bandabas
    For athletes. One "major" has already represented her homeland. And there are “legion” of them.

    And what’s wrong with the major’s wife, well, she said that the SVO doesn’t support her, so many people don’t support her, especially those who might be dragged there.
  30. +8
    1 October 2023 12: 11
    On the one hand, mortgages help solve the housing crisis
    Mortgages help banks get rich. That's all. While she was gone, the price of the apartment was equal to the price of the down payment. In Moscow, a meter was $800 with a cost of $400, and everyone was outraged by the wild markup. With its introduction, prices began to rise almost exponentially. When you buy a home with a mortgage, you pay the cost of construction with a first installment, and then spend your entire life enriching the bond between the bank and the developer. To ensure affordable housing, mortgages must be banned.
  31. 0
    1 October 2023 12: 16
    Quote: Vladimir_2U
    Quote: Adrey
    Starting with problems with demography, jump to the problem of migration (although there is a certain, indirect connection here)

    Yes, as it turns out, there is a connection and it’s not indirect... The fact that childfree and homosexuality are promoted by direct foreign agents and slightly more hidden agents of influence is no secret to anyone, but the fact that the encouragement of “labor” migration to Russia was financed and encouraged by almost everything new time by the same people and from the same sources, this is news for me... Usually they talk about the economy.

    Childfree became a mass phenomenon only on Russian TV, like homosexuals, there were always up to 5% of them, by the way, I know the story of how a businessman and exemplary father of three children cheated on his wife with her cousin)
  32. +3
    1 October 2023 12: 18
    The author is generally right, what else can you say.
    Valuable foreign specialists! A few months ago I had a conversation with one of these indispensables.
    Now, in all seriousness, there are discussions on our TV about the advisability of inviting migrant workers from Southeast Asia, since there are no longer enough “friends” from Central Asia! So much for strategy and tactics and everything else...
  33. +6
    1 October 2023 12: 20
    Quote: Dutchman Michel
    Quote: Vladimir80
    The population is fooled and believes that the purpose of life is an endless stream of pleasures

    Did you read "Dunno on the Moon" as a child? If you read it, then you probably remember that there was an Island of Fools? Everyone there was having fun and playing and didn’t think about anything. In the end they turned into sheep

    This book was almost declared extremist literature... winked
  34. 0
    1 October 2023 12: 21
    The family, first of all, requires great responsibility from people, and its replacement with various comforting illusions only knocks out the foundation from under this very institution. People are told with these constructions from chimerical laws-dummy and ideas that have not even celebrated their three-hundredth anniversary that it is possible with one button, a couple of seals and a stamping machine to turn the whole world into foam rubber: “Live as you please, act in any way, connect your lives, God knows.” with what and with whom – it’s still not you who will experience the consequences.” Healthy seeds are drowning in chaff, in a poisonous surrogate that penetrates even into the very social views of what is permissible and proper: if there is no difference in the output - or the natural norm is completely turned upside down - then why be someone and do something?
    And it won’t get any better as long as we continue to mix honey and tar with the spoon of family politics and convince ourselves that they are one and the same. The human desire to live well and not badly, and the desire to pass on to descendants one’s position in society, establish rules that are clearer and better in line with demanding reality than man-made declarations and laws.
  35. +7
    1 October 2023 13: 37
    Demographics are not determined by whether they live well or poorly, not by whether there is a lot of money or little, etc.
    Oddly enough, but this is a reflection of society’s interest in life. This is difficult to formulate at the social level, so material factors are usually used in assessments.

    But deep down, everything is determined by whether life is interesting or not, whether there is a taste for life or not. It’s simply not interesting to live in this state. Not an interesting state - stuffy, insipid, tasteless, empty, without a vision of the future.

    If sociologists knew how to measure this matter, they would learn a lot of new things. But this was understood in the Middle Ages; in modern times this was no longer necessary, so they forgot how to catch it.

    Let’s ask our elitists, are they themselves interested here? Well, besides earning money... What about their children? Well, here's the answer.
    1. -9
      1 October 2023 14: 28
      Quote: nikolaevskiy78
      .
      TO.

      But deep down, everything is determined by whether life is interesting or not, whether there is a taste for life or not. It’s simply not interesting to live in this state. Not an interesting state - stuffy, insipid, tasteless, empty, without a vision of the future.



      .

      Was life more fun under tsarism? More interesting? I will say: yes! Because then not all people were mentally raped at school. Ecclesiastes was right: Much knowledge means many sorrows.
      1. +4
        1 October 2023 14: 41
        Klim Zhukov has a good review about Bloody Sunday.
        There he even describes with surprise how workers, even in such seemingly terrible conditions, went en masse to read literature. Although by all standards they should be mooing en masse.
        But it’s a strange thing, they moo and don’t read in our country today. We have an acquaintance who is ten years younger, a quite successful IT specialist, who is really proud of the fact that he independently read one book, “The Kid and Carlson.” And this is not a pose or trolling. It is clear that this, like Kosovo, is a “special case”, but there is a tendency
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        2. -10
          1 October 2023 15: 38
          Quote: nikolaevskiy78
          Klim Zhukov has a good review about Bloody Sunday.
          There he even describes with surprise how workers, even in such seemingly terrible conditions, went en masse to read literature

          This is from idleness! The peasants did not have time for this whim. And so do modern IT specialists. Now only the unemployed spend time on this. And in those days, it seems, workers were not very tired at work.
          1. +3
            1 October 2023 16: 22
            Wow! Dashing - 12 hour working day at the factory...
            Do you think the peasant works more and probably all year round? The worker worked without much seasonality.
            Nah, interesting observation
            This means that at the beginning of the 20th century, workers read because they had free time, and they fought for an 8-hour working day, apparently in order to read even more
            1. -10
              1 October 2023 17: 34
              Quote: nikolaevskiy78
              and they fought for an 8-hour working day, apparently to read even more

              And when they received an 8-hour working day, who worked the remaining time for them? Their wives. They have nothing else to do. Why was child labor abolished? Yes, because these children were no longer born in such numbers, because the woman was already at the factory 8 hours a day. Instead of hubby, who needed to free up time at all costs to read books.
              1. +2
                1 October 2023 17: 53
                It is a masterpiece!
                Masterpiece!
                With your permission, I am taking the dialogue into my collection. good
                1. -4
                  1 October 2023 18: 49
                  Quote: nikolaevskiy78
                  It is a masterpiece!
                  Masterpiece!
                  With your permission, I am taking the dialogue into my collection. good

                  Here you go! You say it’s a masterpiece, but you yourself downvote...
                  1. +1
                    1 October 2023 19: 03
                    I'm not downvoting, but this is sarcasm. You will forgive, of course, but greater heresy than this of yours

                    "And when they received an 8-hour working day, who worked the remaining time for them? Their wives. They have nothing else to do. Why was child labor abolished? Yes, because these children were no longer born in such numbers, because the woman was already at the factory 8 hours a day. Instead of hubby, who needed to free up time at all costs to read books"

                    This is the coolest heresy I have heard in the last month. This is really a leader in the hit parade.
                    1. -6
                      1 October 2023 21: 38
                      Quote: nikolaevskiy78
                      I'm not downvoting, but this is sarcasm. You will forgive, of course, but greater heresy than this of yours



                      This is the coolest heresy I have heard in the last month. This is really a leader in the hit parade.

                      You understand that this is not heresy, but pure truth. Because men, when they have free time, don’t read books at all, but drink.
                      1. 0
                        1 October 2023 23: 35
                        Yes, and they also cheat on their wives when they get drunk in their free time.
                        Actually, the conclusion from your theses is simple - in order to increase the demographics, you need to have more free time to drink and reproduce. There is something in this, you have to think, sometimes a woman’s vision is very interesting.
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  36. +6
    1 October 2023 14: 15
    Great article!!! Tireless work, mortgages, loans, population concentration in Moscow and large cities - all this is the mechanism of the Infertility Matrix for Russia. Why drive everyone to Moscow? They have annexed a huge piece right up to the Kaluga region and everything will be built up! Where is at least one factory where you can find a job? If you don’t develop the regions and the countryside, everything will remain the same
    1. 0
      1 October 2023 15: 30
      Quote: Alexander Odintsov
      If you don’t develop the regions and the countryside, everything will remain the same

      How to develop a village? I don’t know a single person who would dream of his children being collective farmers and living their whole lives knee-deep in manure and crawling in the beds. And this started a long time ago. All my relatives, back in the blessed Soviet times, fled from the village in Moscow as limit workers.
      1. +1
        1 October 2023 19: 56
        Quote: Katya_Ivanova
        Quote: Alexander Odintsov
        If you don’t develop the regions and the countryside, everything will remain the same

        How to develop a village? I don’t know a single person who would dream of his children being collective farmers and living their whole lives knee-deep in manure and crawling in the beds. And this started a long time ago. All my relatives, back in the blessed Soviet times, fled from the village in Moscow as limit workers.

        These problems are not from collective farms, this is a collective farm in its original form - from mental problems in a society that in the 21st century lives according to the traditions of the 17th....

        And their main problem is that people of the 17th century were given access to condoms of the 21st century...... This is where the end has come.

        But once again, this is not from the collective farms. If only because normal people have problems exclusively from thieves, cretins and traitors.

        But if there are too many of the above-mentioned types, then yes! problems of society - from collective farms, Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels.
  37. -6
    1 October 2023 14: 22
    Right! It is possible to reproduce only under socialism. Therefore, until 1991, each Soviet family had 10 children. This did not happen under tsarism.
    1. -1
      1 October 2023 19: 52
      Quote: Katya_Ivanova
      Right! It is possible to reproduce only under socialism. Therefore, until 1991, each Soviet family had 10 children. This did not happen under tsarism.

      This is exactly the case in Africa. You should go to Africa......
  38. +2
    1 October 2023 16: 02
    Quote: Not the fighter
    No matter what they say about the USSR, the main achievement was “confidence in the future.” At least officially, but when official propaganda “sagged,” and this was the 80s, the birth rate fell.
    About myself: I’ve already noted my fifty kopecks, I don’t have children and never will have them, they “remained in the demographic hole of the 90s.” Then they reminded me that they won’t even take a “tax for childlessness” from me.
    Those who have children or are planning to have them, are you sure that they will live better than you? We have been living in a new state for 30 years, but the elite has never explained to us what we are worth. Well, for themselves, the elite have already decided that we are building a Russia of 1913 with elements of February 1917, but what about the rest of the population? Let me remind you that we live in a country of victorious fascism, and the dividing line is not based on the shape of the skull, kinship, blood, but on wealth. "Whoever doesn't have a million dollars is nobody, there's dust under his feet." @ Ksenia Sobchak.
    As it is fashionable now, let’s translate it into a business model. The birth of a child means that we, husband and wife, are harnessed to a 20-year investment marathon. The question is about trust in your other half (remember the divorce statistics?), and it’s unknown what we will have in 20 years. And you will have to invest your money, your time, and ultimately your life.
    ZY, I speak as a gamer. Sometimes you pause a strategic game, lean back in your chair and think, “Well, what am I doing, and most importantly, why?” But this is life, you can’t “pause” for reflection, and the “Start over” button doesn’t exist in principle.

    Countries of victorious fascism do not exist yet, well, if you don’t listen to the nonsense on TV, they generally use this word in the Soviet perverted sense (well, they didn’t like the word national socialism in the USSR) The idea of ​​fascism - a corporate state assumes that oligarchs and beggars will forget about the contradictions and will work together working for the good of society, the idea is of course a great one, but no one really figured out how to convey this to all segments of the population, because the well-fed cannot understand the hungry! everyone is fascinated by a fiery speech or at a moment of general danger, but systematically for tens or more years is hardly possible.
    True, there are exceptions - various kinds of communes, for example, Jewish kibbutzim, but ideological people initially gather there, agreeing to live according to the rules of the community; they don’t take anyone off the street, much less force them there with sticks.
  39. +4
    1 October 2023 16: 39
    Quote: Katya_Ivanova
    Quote: Alexander Odintsov
    If you don’t develop the regions and the countryside, everything will remain the same

    How to develop a village? I don’t know a single person who would dream of his children being collective farmers and living their whole lives knee-deep in manure and crawling in the beds. And this started a long time ago. All my relatives, back in the blessed Soviet times, fled from the village in Moscow as limit workers.

    To give the opportunity to work and earn money to those who want, with the modern level of technology, you don’t need a lot of people. Allocating several hectares of land to everyone without a requirement becomes a legal entity or individual entrepreneur, and so that it cannot be taken away, interest-free loans for equipment guaranteed, no taxes for the first 5-10 years and there will be people who will live and work. I had a chance to communicate with a Ukrainian peasant farmer, about 5-6 years ago - a couple of hectares of land, an old T-25 and a new quad station wagon, he said that in the 90s it was very difficult, and then, despite the collapse of collective farms, who wanted the opportunity to work and earn money I found that I earned what’s yours, it’s hard to find money for equipment. The tax and other services do not touch such small producers. And if you approach so that you haven’t earned anything yet, and already pay the tax or cooperate with a neighbor so that there is a multi-field, then open a company, well, with such preferences, it’s strange that at least someone remains in the villages. And those who are not able to study at all may want to work for their uncle for pennies, waving a pitchfork, because on construction sites you can earn many times more.
    It is clear that large agricultural producers in general are not interested in the peasantry; it would be better for the locals to have nowhere to go except to work for them, but here you need to decide whether you care about preserving the village and the population or about someone’s already plump wallets.
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    2. -4
      1 October 2023 17: 46
      Quote from Tim666
      To give the opportunity to work and earn money to those who want, with the modern level of technology, you don’t need a lot of people.

      You contradict yourself! If people don’t need a lot, then what’s the problem? Large agricultural producers are already coping and making money and they have enough people.
  40. +5
    1 October 2023 18: 40
    Quote: nikolaevskiy78
    Wow! Dashing - 12 hour working day at the factory...
    Do you think the peasant works more and probably all year round? The worker worked without much seasonality.
    Nah, interesting observation
    This means that at the beginning of the 20th century, workers read because they had free time, and they fought for an 8-hour working day, apparently in order to read even more

    A peasant’s working day is definitely longer except in winter, apparently you haven’t seen the village, you get up before dark and go to bed as soon as it gets dark, and in winter the lighting is mostly a sliver
    1. +1
      1 October 2023 19: 12
      I, of course, have not seen the village, except in pictures and during an interesting period of work as a shepherd and cattleman. Let's talk about graphs, it will be interesting. Who gets up when, to whom and when God gives, when to shine the torch.
      And how easy it is to work on a construction site in the city or in a factory, extrapolating this to the period of the early 20th century with irregular work and a complete lack of social services and labor protection.
  41. +2
    1 October 2023 18: 57
    Quote: Katya_Ivanova
    Quote from Tim666
    To give the opportunity to work and earn money to those who want, with the modern level of technology, you don’t need a lot of people.

    You contradict yourself! If people don’t need a lot, then what’s the problem? Large agricultural producers are already coping and making money and they have enough people.

    The problem is that only drunks remain in the village, or become them, and it is the village that could provide such a desired population increase, because in the village a child is a helper from an early age, but in the city he is a burden. Judging by my childhood friends, villagers usually had large families. The Germans are not fools when they said that if it is unprofitable to grow sugar beets, we will pay our farmers extra, but we will preserve the production culture. A large producer is only interested in money, if there is no competition from a small one, this is already a monopoly + tomorrow a large producer will decide that the Asians are more profitable for him and in 20 years there will be no place left for the indigenous residents either in the city or in the village.
  42. +2
    1 October 2023 19: 35
    A very timely topic. We, I mean Russians, have been so beautifully surrounded with all sorts of beauties, like we are an indigenous nation and so on, that we should continue to remain in nirvana. Read, people actually write that WE are Russians, we are really dying out, the number is declining. BUT, our elite, led by Putin, sings us a beautiful song that everything is fine, the most important thing is maternal capital, and so on. It’s a pity that you fall for this propaganda. Putin needs to win the presidency in 2024 , let’s leave conscience behind the scenes, and what will happen in the end? And in the end, until the Russian People themselves begin to determine their own destiny, all sorts of Medvedevs and others like them will do it for them.
  43. +1
    1 October 2023 20: 55
    The author writes a lot about how it was in the USSR. But it’s worth noting one nuance. The population began to decline since 1964, and what does ideology have to do with it? There is a saying: you don’t feed the nightingale with fables. And it concerns both the USSR and modern Russia.
    1. -1
      2 October 2023 11: 57
      If you carefully read my article, you would have noticed that I wrote about my lack of statistics, and that some of my conclusions are from PERSONAL experience.
    2. +1
      3 October 2023 21: 50
      Since the mid-60s, and in some regions of the USSR even earlier, there has been a reduction in the rate of population growth, rather than a decline in population. In all union republics the population increased.
  44. +3
    1 October 2023 22: 27
    Quote: TOR2
    The author writes a lot about how it was in the USSR. But it’s worth noting one nuance. The population began to decline since 1964, and what does ideology have to do with it? There is a saying: you don’t feed the nightingale with fables. And it concerns both the USSR and modern Russia.

    About the population decline since 1964, can you link to the source? Wiki gives 208 million in 1959 and 241 in 1970, and in 1991 almost 300 million. Or is it written like that in the manual?
  45. -1
    1 October 2023 22: 52
    Quote: nikolaevskiy78
    I, of course, have not seen the village, except in pictures and during an interesting period of work as a shepherd and cattleman. Let's talk about graphs, it will be interesting. Who gets up when, to whom and when God gives, when to shine the torch.
    And how easy it is to work on a construction site in the city or in a factory, extrapolating this to the period of the early 20th century with irregular work and a complete lack of social services and labor protection.

    And no one says that in the city it was easy for workers, but in the village you worked as a cattleman (we are not talking about a shepherd at all, this is a sinecure by village standards, especially when electric shepherds appeared, and with a smart Sabakyan it’s generally a clean resort) when did you cultivate your own garden? Did you have your own cow? Have you dried your hay? And when did you manage to do this? On collective farms there were 2 types of workers - one type - I plow on the collective farm anyway, what for do I need a big garden, a cow, etc., others kept pigs and a cow and plots per hectare, when the authorities allowed, and then the house was full, but what a lot of work it was worth. In my memory, 20 acres of hayfield were piled up in record time and shaken 3 times a day, there’s a cloud coming, and suddenly it floods, this is for your cow. If it were easier in the countryside and equal in income, there would be no exodus of peasants to the cities. A worker, even with a 12-hour working day, by the way, since the 190s (I don’t remember exactly) he became 11, he has one important shift, plus or minus, and still doesn’t have a headache.
    1. +4
      1 October 2023 23: 44
      Sinecure????
      Yes, there is a shortage of personnel for this position - because no one walks that much, having responsibility for a herd of cattle, which is on the balance sheet. Have you ever pulled a heifer out of an abandoned well? Try it, it’s very interesting, and part of the herd did not go into the forest 50 km away from you, so that you then ran through the forest until night, and then in two villages in UAZs along all the paths, several dozen people organized an expedition after them until the morning. Have you ever followed a herd through a thicket in the forest? And they walk through the windfall like moose. And they go there if the grass burns out. And when, together with the adults, they give you, in addition, about twenty young heifers, which the adults kick into the thicket, you will look for her there in the spruce forest. She won't even moo. The adults will go on their own, but these will stand there with eyes like a dish. And run like this all season alone. If it suddenly starts to rain during the heat, try bringing them home. Well, if they foolishly climbed into the swamp, try to pull these “women” out of there.
      Sinecure, it’s normal for citizens to think this way.
  46. +3
    1 October 2023 23: 13
    Quote: bk0010
    On the one hand, mortgages help solve the housing crisis
    Mortgages help banks get rich. That's all. While she was gone, the price of the apartment was equal to the price of the down payment. In Moscow, a meter was $800 with a cost of $400, and everyone was outraged by the wild markup. With its introduction, prices began to rise almost exponentially. When you buy a home with a mortgage, you pay the cost of construction with a first installment, and then spend your entire life enriching the bond between the bank and the developer. To ensure affordable housing, mortgages must be banned.

    Mortgages do not need to be prohibited, just limit the total margin to 30 percent, by law. The banks have enough tools to control the developer, this is not the average person, the standards for standard construction are more or less known, but as for the lack of money, the late Chavez limited the profits of American oil companies to 20%, and although everyone threatened to leave, not everyone left, but now they seem to have returned on same conditions.
  47. +1
    2 October 2023 00: 46
    Somehow the author is forgetting the root cause. The state is trying to get into its pocket through demographic policy. In the moment, if you do not take into account inflation, maintaining a child under 18 years of age will cost approximately 6,7 million rubles or more. The state is simply reaching into your pocket. The issue of demography is solved in one form or another by pouring money into it. Grandparents, nannies, hospitals, studies, illnesses, etc. - everything is decided by money. Not enough money
  48. -2
    2 October 2023 03: 06
    Quote: nikolaevskiy78
    Sinecure????
    Yes, there is a shortage of personnel for this position - because no one walks that much, having responsibility for a herd of cattle, which is on the balance sheet. Have you ever pulled a heifer out of an abandoned well? Try it, it’s very interesting, and part of the herd did not go into the forest 50 km away from you, so that you then ran through the forest until night, and then in two villages in UAZs along all the paths, several dozen people organized an expedition after them until the morning. Have you ever followed a herd through a thicket in the forest? And they walk through the windfall like moose. And they go there if the grass burns out. And when, together with the adults, they give you, in addition, about twenty young heifers, which the adults kick into the thicket, you will look for her there in the spruce forest. She won't even moo. The adults will go on their own, but these will stand there with eyes like a dish. And run like this all season alone. If it suddenly starts to rain during the heat, try bringing them home. Well, if they foolishly climbed into the swamp, try to pull these “women” out of there.
    Sinecure, it’s normal for citizens to think this way.

    If no one comes, then the salary is worthless, I know a case where gypsies transferred a position from their brother to a matchmaker, but I wrote to you about electric shepherds or is this a shortage in the 21st century? I fenced the area and changed it in a couple of days, essentially all that remains is to drive the herd away. Your own dog is also welcome, we have done an excellent job at 20 cm at the withers, a wolfhound is not needed.
    1. +3
      2 October 2023 03: 33
      You are completely off topic... electric shepherds.
      And digital cows, with digital veterinarians, robotic milkers, automatic stall cleaning machines, an electronic shepherd and cowgirl. Apparently, you have some kind of your own cyber village. What kind of electric shepherds with electric pens and sensors are there in the regions north of Moscow? There you have to constantly drive it and periodically drive it through the forest during the bad season. This is not the steppe and the steppe all around, the path is far away. Although in the steppe all this cyber-sports, if it works, is in isolated cases and under special conditions
  49. +5
    2 October 2023 08: 27
    I work as an engineer for the government. enterprise, what kind of children are there... I just can’t afford a family... I wanted to buy an apartment, but I was late, prices have skyrocketed so much that my salary is not even enough to pay the monthly mortgage payment. Yes, of course, my favorite thing is to find a better paying job... But this is also not easy where there are practically no enterprises left in the city... This is how we live...
  50. -2
    2 October 2023 09: 30
    Quote: nikolaevskiy78
    You are completely off topic... electric shepherds.
    And digital cows, with digital veterinarians, robotic milkers, automatic stall cleaning machines, an electronic shepherd and cowgirl. Apparently, you have some kind of your own cyber village. What kind of electric shepherds with electric pens and sensors are there in the regions north of Moscow? There you have to constantly drive it and periodically drive it through the forest during the bad season. This is not the steppe and the steppe all around, the path is far away. Although in the steppe all this cyber-sports, if it works, is in isolated cases and under special conditions

    What other sensors? Did you twist the tails of cows in the 50s or was the collective farm super miserable? Ordinary steel wire, stretched at a height of maybe about 1.2 m, on steel pegs along insulators. The cow touches the wire, closes the circuit to the ground, receives an electric shock, and moves away. The electric shepherd itself is, roughly speaking, a box with a battery + a voltmeter and an ammeter and a couple of buttons. You can fence at least 100 hectares; it’s not a problem to get thin wire and pieces of reinforcement in addition to the kit. By the way, we also made wooden posts; a small porcelain insulator was nailed on top - the kind that is now sold for open retro wiring. Something tells me that on your farm this unit was simply driven and drunk away, perhaps by your predecessors.
    1. +1
      2 October 2023 10: 21
      Once again, this “unit,” whether with sensors or live wire, is meaningless in areas where the herd moves through meadows interspersed with wooded areas. Only young animals can be driven out this way. This is not to mention periods of increased heat, when you yourself lead your “helpers” into the woods. And it’s good if they don’t take it into their heads to look for water and grass on their own (and if there is dry land, they will). Of course, you can drive them where it is convenient for you, and not for them. But revenge will be sure. Even though they are herd animals, they will find a way to get you.

      What is 100 Ha anyway? How long will it take for these 100 hectares to be consumed to zero? It's not about anything at all. Drive out the young ones. What you write is generally unrealistic for non-steppe regions. And this is the main area.
  51. -3
    2 October 2023 12: 11
    Quote: nikolaevskiy78
    Once again, this “unit,” whether with sensors or live wire, is meaningless in areas where the herd moves through meadows interspersed with wooded areas. Only young animals can be driven out this way. This is not to mention periods of increased heat, when you yourself lead your “helpers” into the woods. And it’s good if they don’t take it into their heads to look for water and grass on their own (and if there is dry land, they will). Of course, you can drive them where it is convenient for you, and not for them. But revenge will be sure. Even though they are herd animals, they will find a way to get you.

    What is 100 Ha anyway? How long will it take for these 100 hectares to be consumed to zero? It's not about anything at all. Drive out the young ones. What you write is generally unrealistic for non-steppe regions. And this is the main area.

    What's the problem with moving the fence? They will eat it in 2 days, transfer it in 2 days, in a week or two in a week. About some kind of undergrowth, in general, some kind of nonsense, if necessary, you can pull water in the undergrowth... in general, if the grazing is organized normally, they should be brought up. And your service was staged in style because of a bad head there is no rest for your feet.
  52. +3
    2 October 2023 18: 48
    But I don’t give a damn about ideology, athletes and so on. As long as the state is satisfied that a sexually mature guy and a girl cannot earn more than a hundred dollars between them, it will burn with fire. Why should they reproduce if they cannot meet basic needs?
    1. -2
      5 October 2023 01: 23
      Quote: KrolikZanuda
      But I don’t give a damn about ideology, athletes and so on. As long as the state is satisfied that a sexually mature guy and a girl cannot earn more than a hundred dollars between them, it will burn with fire. Why should they reproduce if they cannot meet basic needs?


      For mentally normal people, friendly communication is a basic need.

      But there are also peoples for whom one of the basic needs is to create a family. And reproduction is only a consequence.

      I walk down the street and meet Asians with children and Russians with dogs. Is having a dog a basic need for Russians?

      People who have gone crazy cannot notice this themselves. But I haven’t gone crazy yet, even watching my compatriots. That's why I notice everything.
  53. -1
    3 October 2023 18: 27
    On professional sports - my personal opinion - prof. sport is a relic of the past, to think that the country needs it is like thinking in terms of something like the 1930s. The times of the Berlin Olympics and the “triumph of the will” have long since died down, all the records that a healthy human body is capable of 99.99% of people have been demonstrated. The further development of these competitions, as practice shows, moves away from anything useful, turning for some states into a dim attempt to demonstrate their importance (for those who still live somewhere in the 1930s this is still impressive), for others government officials, who understand this type of thinking is a suitable way to spank someone demonstrably using all the included tools. And, of course, doping, genetic manipulation, transgender people, some crazy Paralympic competitions and so on.
    Prof. An athlete spends his whole life on having a tiny chance of getting into this kind of game, and on having a tiny chance of surpassing any of the records. Healthy characters whose path is similar to the efforts of prof. sport breaks their knees - thousands of them, and most importantly they are deprived (often) of their health and do not have the skills that they could have, given the fact that they are healthy and capable.

    In other words, this is, in my opinion, unrealistic nonsense, and this kind of games should be treated as nonsense, semi-professional at best.
    The fact that the national team, for example, Uganda, wins ten gold medals in Uganda will not live a half-snot better, it will not add respect to it in the world, even if it attracts investments it will be scanty - and although there will be an economic effect from this kind of performance, within the boundaries of the “real world”, diverting attention to something like this beyond measure on the scale of any state is a false path, unable to advance the country.
    In the 21st century, the state is promoting technology, standards of living and education, medicine, prosperity, good laws and stability "+". This is what you should focus on.

    Regarding measures to get out of the demographic hole - subject to open borders and in the era of globalism - the problem cannot be solved within the framework of the current model and approaches in the foreseeable time, and time is against us. Our neighbors are competitively superior to us and, therefore, with open borders, they will absorb part of our growth - the more cavernous our conditions here are, the more incompetent and fiscally imposed the taxes and rules are. So solve dem in the foreseeable future. We could solve the problem with benefit for the state in one way - by creating a pool for the construction of extremely low-cost housing for young families, distributed practically for free, as well as by launching accumulation accounts for each born child, which by the age of 20 (at closing) can provide him with at least 1/3 of the cost of housing.
    Both are very real events that organically fit into the general line of “industrialization 2.0” and the preparatory stage for turning us into a superpower again.
    Without these measures, our growth will fluctuate within the framework of statistical errors and suppressive factors (of which there are a lot) and, given the fact that we do not have a bright and attractive picture of the future (we are firmly stuck in retrofetishism), de facto we will decrease with one or another dynamics and for one reason or another.
  54. 0
    5 October 2023 08: 40
    What's Hidden? The second attack by alien hyenas on the country in 1991 years, in XNUMX, led to a catastrophic decline in the standard of living of citizens. Survival has become the main goal of the family; having children while receiving a contraceptive salary has become impossible! And immediately the migrants began to present their demands: “Eh, now this is your land, but where is your child? No child? And I have five of them. And in 20 years, yours will become mine. They will grow up, and we will become masters of your land!” And it is true! The Russian Federation has long been in a Demographic Catastrophe! But the descendants of the “Guz revolutionaries” who robbed the people and appropriated their national wealth have complete order with their demography. For example, the curator of the MTK, B. Lazara, has only 16 children who want to control and rule over the goyim - they are waiting for their no longer secret, but public “Accession!” But MTK also wants this. The country will soon see this scenario. Let's remember when A. Sobchak was cleared of charges of embezzlement of the St. Petersburg budget, and he was going to the Russian Federation, he inadvertently declared: “Tomorrow I’m flying to the Russian Federation and believe me, I will become President!” And he died the next day! The experience of Boris Yeltsin's reign in reducing the number of rebellious people - when contraceptive wages led to a sharp drop in the birth rate - taught hyena managers how to populate the Russian Federation with migrants. In the tenth year of the second stage of the “Guz” seizure of power, there was an unexpected phenomenon for everyone, a kind of ancient Mummy of the Trojan Horse (MTK), which was being prepared for the criminal seizure of power! As descendants will later say: “Our Trees fell, but continued to vote for the Axe. For some reason they thought that if the Ax had a wooden handle, then it was theirs.” It was with the advent of “this mummy MTK” that the formation of feudal, and according to some signs, criminal slave-owning evil began. Under which, allegedly the state. structures - are formed only on alien ethnic and criminal grounds. The opinion of the population of the captured Russian Federation is not taken into account at all. The dominance of private, feudal property creates an alien ethnic roof of officials who are fed by big business. And the bureaucracy does not identify itself with the state, but is alienated from it, surrendering its interests, at the first opportunity - to personally enrich itself. This is how a marginal deep state (MGD) was formed in the Russian Federation - the political core of the ruling plutocrats. MGG is cunning and resourceful, they are ready to imitate (pretend) to be anyone. This is our inner, affectionate, cunning, Bloodthirsty Chameleon. At meetings they remain silent and express their doubts. And when making decisions on bureaucratic procedures, certain actions aimed at Victory in this war are hindered. It was against these hyenas that the hero of the Russian Federation, E.V., spoke out. Prigogine. Since the bureaucracy in the Russian Federation is at an exorbitant level, then within the framework of the “legal bureaucracy” it is possible to destroy any decisions of the top leadership aimed at Victory. This is the “bureaucratic sieve” - a sieve that you can get into, but it is impossible to get out of it. The current situation has become beyond the control of the MTK and preconditions have appeared that the MTK itself can turn, like its predecessor, into a rotten phantom. And it is clear that the unknown and the evil experience of the camouflaged scam of the last 30 years, when more than 60% of the population receives a salary of less than 27 thousand.
  55. -1
    7 October 2023 16: 22
    No matter how strange it may sound, no ideology will help.
    Take Bangladesh - well, what kind of ideology do they have - rightly none, not! There is poverty. Either the poor or the rich give birth. Fortunately or unfortunately, our middle class does not give birth. Perhaps we are going to the worst - handing out money and letting the poor give birth, or raking in migrants at the moment.
    Take China - well, what kind of ideology do they have - correctly capitalism under the guise of communism. But this option is also not ours, since initially there were many Chinese.
    And here we come to the option of Canada or the USA. Why? It’s simple - these countries have one of the fastest population growth rates. The USA is understandable - one of the most economically developed countries, hence large salaries and other goodies. What does Canada have to do with it? The same Russia, only North American. Why do they succeed? It’s clear that Canadians don’t really give birth either. But here everything is very simple - there are many provincial programs to attract migrants. Migrants are not ordinary migrants, but specialists, not even highly qualified as a tractor driver, but with proven experience and knowledge of the language. And here the picture emerges of the conditional Bangladeshi Zahir, Musad, who knows how to drive a tractor, with an easy knowledge of the language, can move to Canada with minimal finances. The conditional Zahir, Musad moves and begins to earn and earn decent money. And after this the question of family is raised - of course he doesn’t like Canadian girls and brings them from Bangladesh. And then there are 2-3 children. The same thing happens in Canada with Indians, Chinese, Vietnamese, Malaysians, Filipinos who come to Canada and increase not only the population, but the financial component.
    So we need to copy the Canadian model - I consider it one of the best. So to speak, become the Russian version of Canada and there is nothing wrong with that.


    If we can’t come up with our own, copy it. Wise Chinese proverb))
    1. -1
      7 October 2023 19: 42
      If Canada were “the same Russia,” then they would not leave Russia for Canada.

      Why waste time on trifles? Let's all become Jews.... Copy....

      As the wise proverb of the Chinese says, they copied technology, but did not copy their way of life from anyone.? - “There are things that you have to do yourself. For example, give birth to children.”