US Air Force reconnaissance aircraft were again spotted near Crimea during a new missile attack by the Ukrainian Armed Forces on Sevastopol

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US Air Force reconnaissance aircraft were again spotted near Crimea during a new missile attack by the Ukrainian Armed Forces on Sevastopol

It has long been no secret that all the most large-scale and high-profile attacks on Russian territory, including Crimea, are carried out by the Ukrainian Armed Forces with the direct support of the intelligence services of NATO countries, mainly the United States. However, the Americans do not particularly hide this, although Washington is trying to verbally disavow such support for the Kyiv military, which, in essence, makes NATO a direct participant in the military conflict in Ukraine.

Talk about yesterday's strike by the Ukrainian Armed Forces with long-range Franco-British-made Storm Shadow/SCALP missiles on the Black Sea headquarters has not yet died down. fleet The Russian Navy in Sevastopol, as today Ukrainian planes again attempted to attack the territory of this subject of the Russian Federation. According to preliminary information, fragments of a Ukrainian Armed Forces missile shot down by air defense forces fell at the pier in the area of ​​Sukharnaya Balka.



According to the online aircraft traffic tracking service Flightradar, yesterday, several hours before the attack on the Black Sea Fleet headquarters in Sevastopol, an American reconnaissance aircraft Boeing P-8A Poseidon was in the airspace over the Black Sea near the Crimean Peninsula. Naturally, this cannot be called an accident. In addition, it is known that a few hours before the incident, a US Air Force RQ-4B Global Hawk unmanned aerial vehicle was located near the peninsula.

And today story repeated almost exactly the same. According to the same Flightradar portal, an American long-range electronic reconnaissance aircraft Lockheed EP-3E Aries II was again spotted off the coast of Romania, where it arrived from the dual-use airport of Chania in Greece. Starting at 10:30 Moscow time, a US Air Force reconnaissance aircraft patrolled close to the Ukrainian border for five hours, periodically approaching the Russian peninsula at a distance of approximately 300 kilometers. Experts note that from such a distance, the US Air Force reconnaissance aircraft is capable of “highlighting” targets for Ukrainian Armed Forces missiles.

After the Lockheed EP-3E Aries II headed for its home airfield in Greece, it was immediately replaced by our “old friend” reconnaissance patrol Boeing P-8A Poseidon with a hidden call sign. This aircraft arrived in the airspace of the neutral waters of the Black Sea near Crimea from the NATO naval air base Sigonella on the Italian island of Sicily.

Meanwhile, against the backdrop of the attacks on Sevastopol, calls in Russian society once again intensified for the political and military leadership of the country to stop drawing new “red lines” and start shooting down NATO reconnaissance aircraft de facto participating in the military conflict on the enemy’s side. Otherwise, experts warn, Kiev will become increasingly inspired by impunity and will only increase the number of such attacks on Russian territory. So far nothing new has been said in Moscow at the official level on this topic.
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  1. +1
    23 September 2023 19: 23
    How they fly at home. And there’s nothing you can do.
    1. +15
      23 September 2023 19: 33
      How can you do it? You put an electronic warfare system on a rusty barge. You go out approximately to the area where they fly. And you drown everyone out. You work, cover yourself with a tarp, put out your fishing rods, and go fishing.
      1. +5
        23 September 2023 20: 31
        Quote: antiaircrafter
        You put an electronic warfare system on a rusty barge

        Let’s say there is a rusty barge that you can dig up and won’t sink.
        What kind of electronic warfare would you like to install on it and on what physical principles will it stun anyone (except its crew?)
        PySy, won't they drown her?
        1. SSR
          +5
          23 September 2023 20: 50
          Quote: Reindeer herder_2
          on what physical principles


          I really hope that ours will have a “breakthrough” and create weapons based on new physical principles.
          In general, this SVO, to put it mildly, is tired, the Western Caudla is testing all its types of weapons, our guys are dying, and the Western Drive, at least don’t give a damn, since we are cultural, we don’t blow up pipelines, we don’t cut cables.
          Well, except for the economic downturn and inflation in the West, to which they are not quick, and we cannot live without it for more than 30 years.
          1. +1
            24 September 2023 16: 18
            Quote from S.S.R.
            I really hope that ours will have a “breakthrough”

            A breakthrough occurs when they invest in science, education, and conduct R&D.
            External manifestation of this: patents, Nobel laureates.
            If this is not the case, then there is no need to expect a breakthrough.
            Quote from S.S.R.
            In general, this SVO, to put it mildly, was tired

            I guess this is just the beginning.
            Focus on the Iran-Iraq War
        2. -1
          23 September 2023 21: 54
          Quote: Reindeer herder_2
          What kind of electronic warfare would you like?

          Any suitable one.
          They put TOP on boats. Why not drag in some Rubella?
          1. 0
            23 September 2023 23: 02
            And how is Rubella supposed to jam the reconnaissance plane?
          2. +1
            24 September 2023 16: 21
            Quote: antiaircrafter
            Why not drag in some Rubella?

            Rubella is a contagious viral infection most often found in children and young adults.
            belay
            Why drag this disease onto a barge... a mystery.
            PySy
            The S-400 air defense system, which is in Crimea, is itself an order of magnitude larger electronic warfare complex than Station 1L269.
            However it didn't help
            1. 0
              25 September 2023 15: 34
              I agree, the S-400 is a good electronic warfare system, but running it around Romanian territory is kind of wrong... That’s what they’re using
      2. +5
        23 September 2023 22: 17
        I think it will be too "ornate"...

        It’s easier to lift (in time) any “heavy” drone. And, of course, unarmed...

        And by the time the RR\RTR and US control center boards and the NATO relic enter the airspace near Crimea, at the indicated distance, it is “simple” to direct this (D)UAV along the “guest” course. And then, having made a “dangerous maneuver,” - right at him...

        And who will have what “claims” in this (or, preferably, in these...) case(s)?.. On what basis?.. And to whom?...

        Yes, you know... The databases are coming... And the technology, especially the “outdated” one (and with the new one, you know, “it doesn’t matter” with us...), sometimes “fails”. Especially when he acts at the “limit of his capabilities” (including at a distance...). So, don’t blame me... For now, unfortunately (sincerely), we “cannot” guarantee “non-repetition”...

        So, we recommend that you do not appear in this sector of the VP until the end of the SVO. And, in general, stay away from him...

        I don't see any technical problems here. The Russian Armed Forces' Aerospace Forces will, presumably, find an abundance of such "outdated" ("inexpensive" platforms, which "don't feel sorry for"...) They will hit the fuselage, planes or "tail" due to loss of control. NATO is not a problem either... And there, the crew, there are 15 - 18 people...

        In a word, even if they are given the opportunity to “evade” (for “humane reasons”) the next time “for the first time”, they will begin to pull on “diapers” for such a flight...

        Well, and their (D) UAVs, without any “ifs”, should already be “taken down” with a ram...

        Are you in an “international” VP?.. And do you have “all the rights”?.. And we too... So, we collided by accident... Once, twice, third, fourth, etc... Bye, yours (D) UAVs worth 100 - 150 million don’t get tired of dropping “green stuff” into the waters of the World Cup...
        1. 0
          24 September 2023 10: 34
          Gardeners often demand that Russia confirm its non-involvement in any events. It is worth shooting down their reconnaissance aircraft and, in their style, demand that they confirm their non-involvement in attacks on Russia with the help of this reconnaissance aircraft.
      3. +1
        23 September 2023 22: 48
        Why cover yourself with a tarpaulin and display fishing rods? Why not do this openly? Who can ban this in international waters?
    2. +14
      23 September 2023 19: 57
      In the Kremlin, the thought of shooting down NATO and especially US planes gave someone a panic attack of diarrhea. There is no other way to explain the lack of a strong reaction to what is happening in the air near our territories.
      1. -15
        23 September 2023 20: 06
        Quote: Thrifty
        In the Kremlin, the thought of shooting down NATO and especially US planes gave someone a panic attack of diarrhea

        Go to the front line to start against the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
        1. +5
          23 September 2023 20: 12
          Yes, let's go, just let the "higher powers" set an example first. All sorts of fleas, sons and granddaughters...
          1. +1
            23 September 2023 20: 55

            ........................................
          2. -9
            23 September 2023 21: 06
            Quote from: dmi.pris1
            , just let the “higher powers” ​​set an example first

            Are we weak ourselves?
            1. +3
              23 September 2023 21: 21
              I don’t want to become cannon fodder!
              1. -4
                23 September 2023 22: 21
                Quote: Sid2014
                Become cannon fodder

                That is weak.
            2. +6
              23 September 2023 21: 57
              Quote: Dart2027
              Quote from: dmi.pris1
              , just let the “higher powers” ​​set an example first

              Are we weak ourselves?

              So they ask you, are you weak yourself? Why are you always pointing fingers at others? Or are you here at work, to protect our servants?
              1. -12
                23 September 2023 22: 22
                Quote: azkolt
                So they ask you, are you weak yourself? Why are you always pointing fingers at others?
                So you translate it yourself - you think you can do better this way forward.
      2. -9
        23 September 2023 20: 20
        In the Kremlin, the thought of shooting down NATO and especially US planes gave someone a panic attack of diarrhea.

        You just find out such intimate details about panic diarrhea, is your work related to this? Sorry.
        1. +5
          23 September 2023 21: 59
          Quote: AndreyKam_Z
          In the Kremlin, the thought of shooting down NATO and especially US planes gave someone a panic attack of diarrhea.

          You just find out such intimate details about panic diarrhea, is your work related to this? Sorry.

          And here you have some worthless nonsense, instead of a substantive answer! And this creature is like this, the Day of Judgment was promised and a lot of other things, but there was zero exhaust, so the whole world is now wiping its feet on us!
      3. SSR
        0
        23 September 2023 20: 54
        Quote: Thrifty
        In the Kremlin, the thought of shooting down NATO and especially US planes gave someone a panic attack of diarrhea.

        You are a rare choke.
        We need to see what you were strangling when ours and the US UAVs were sunk.
        But honestly, I don’t want to look, because you are a rare choker and even then you didn’t have diarrhea, but you perfumed it over the edges.
        1. +4
          23 September 2023 22: 04
          Quote from S.S.R.
          Quote: Thrifty
          In the Kremlin, the thought of shooting down NATO and especially US planes gave someone a panic attack of diarrhea.

          You are a rare choke.
          We need to see what you were strangling when ours and the US UAVs were sunk.
          But honestly, I don’t want to look, because you are a rare choker and even then you didn’t have diarrhea, but you perfumed it over the edges.

          I wonder who? In more than a year and a half, one UAV was shot down while they were constantly aiming missiles for at least a year, this is certainly an amazing achievement! You read people like this and think how easy it is for you to fight when others are losing their lives! Personal experience. at work alone at the end of June he signed a contract with the Ministry of Defense, I was honestly sure that he was still somewhere at the training grounds, but I came back from vacation and found out that at the end of August he was in the hospital, gray-haired and with shrapnel wounds, despite the fact that according to him, he was on the third line! It is with the blood of such guys that these scum are now covering the front, and you are covering them!
      4. -2
        23 September 2023 22: 09
        Quote: Thrifty
        In the Kremlin, the thought of shooting down NATO and especially US planes gave someone a panic attack of diarrhea. There is no other way to explain the lack of a strong reaction to what is happening in the air near our territories.

        And in principle right. Now our planes fly unhindered over the Black Sea, but if we start shooting down US and NATO planes, they may start shooting down our planes in response. Accordingly, some difficulties will arise with the flights of our aircraft over the Black Sea. Who needs it?
        1. -1
          23 September 2023 22: 28
          Aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces are flying over the World Cup waters. And there is no need to “knock down” anyone...

          It is necessary simply, by maneuvering, continuously, to create emergency situations that are “dangerous” for the crews of RR\RTR and US command control aircraft and NATO relics (i.e. military aircraft...) approaching the airspace near the Crimean Peninsula at the specified distance.

          “Mighty” REALLY lead to loss of control of the “guest” side... And there, the crew, is 15 - 18 people... Moreover, - without the possibility of ejection...
          1. -3
            23 September 2023 22: 44
            Quote: ABC-schütze
            Aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces are flying over the World Cup waters. And there is no need to “knock down” anyone...

            It is necessary simply, by maneuvering, continuously, to create emergency situations that are “dangerous” for the crews of RR\RTR and US command control aircraft and NATO relics (i.e. military aircraft...) approaching the airspace near the Crimean Peninsula at the specified distance.

            “Mighty” REALLY lead to loss of control of the “guest” side... And there, the crew, is 15 - 18 people... Moreover, - without the possibility of ejection...

            Are you planning to maneuver over Romania?
            Such butting heads with NATO only distract from combat missions in the Northern Military District zone, and also carry the risk of losing our aircraft.
          2. -1
            24 September 2023 15: 58
            We have aces - the group "Swifts", it seems. They indulge in aerobatics. So instruct them to “play around” in front of Poseidon and the hedgehog with him. And so on with every NATO reconnaissance mission. There will be a circus! Not an attack, but demonstrations. And it's free for viewers.
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      5. 0
        24 September 2023 07: 15
        Quote: Thrifty
        In the Kremlin, the thought of shooting down NATO and especially US planes gave someone a panic attack of diarrhea. There is no other way to explain the lack of a strong reaction to what is happening in the air near our territories.

        Oh, haven’t you noticed that lately all these Posnydon reconnaissance aircraft have been operating from the territory of Romania? Without entering neutral airspace. If before they flew near ours and the borders along the Crimea, the North Caucasus. now they are sitting with the Romanians, Turks, Greeks, Bulgarians... The question is why? I think you know the answer yourself. The question is why our planes are not constantly in the air and do reconnaissance across the territory of Judaura? This is probably the main problem now.
    3. +1
      23 September 2023 21: 54
      Quote from germanboy
      How they fly at home. And there’s nothing you can do.

      From the cart:
      About the attacks on Sevastopol and in general.

      1. Until NATO reconnaissance aircraft begin to suffer combat losses in the conflict zone, the miracles of high precision and coordination of enemy attacks on the southern front will continue.

      2. During the Korean War and 10 years after it, and we now have the level of chaos and general neurosis in relations between Moscow and Washington as a whole, it was precisely this pre-Caribbean period, large planes that had wandered into the wrong direction just went on their way.
      1. +3
        24 September 2023 07: 18
        Until NATO reconnaissance aircraft begin to suffer combat losses in the conflict zone

        She does not fly in a conflict zone. It flies either over the territory of the NATO bloc or in international airspace.
        Solving problems using the methods of the Korean War is stupid.
        1. -3
          24 September 2023 18: 17
          Quote: Arkadich
          Until NATO reconnaissance aircraft begin to suffer combat losses in the conflict zone

          She does not fly in a conflict zone. It flies either over the territory of the NATO bloc or in international airspace.
          Solving problems using the methods of the Korean War is stupid.

          Maybe it would be more stupid to expose yourself to high-precision missiles and at the same time not take action against the target spotters? Don't you notice that they keep raising the stakes? And they do this only because they see the complete impotence of our suckers. One “accidental” strike on a reconnaissance plane and subsequent “wild” apologies like those from Azerbaijan and those who want to fly there will be an order of magnitude less. If only there was a desire1 But there is no desire, because he is impotent!
    4. 0
      23 September 2023 22: 47
      Quote from germanboy
      How they fly at home. And there's nothing you can do.

      If a pattern has been identified of the appearance of aerial scoundrels and attacks on Crimean targets, then the sorties of our air electronic warfare suggest themselves (at least the creation of a bunch of “illumination” places similar to the vile target designators in order to shoot them down from a real object). Naturally, this does not cancel air defense.
  2. +12
    23 September 2023 19: 23
    “Near the peninsula” - where is this? Over the Turkish coast and in Romanian airspace?
    1. +2
      23 September 2023 22: 31
      At any point of the so-called "international" VP. Regardless of how “remote” it is from the VP of Romania and Bulgaria. And from the Turkish airspace, “highlighting” targets in Crimea is somehow difficult...
      1. +1
        24 September 2023 14: 32
        Quote: ABC-schütze
        At any point of the so-called "international" VP. Regardless of how “remote” it is from the VP of Romania and Bulgaria. And from the Turkish airspace, “highlighting” targets in Crimea is somehow difficult...

        Firstly, they actually fly near Turkish airspace

        Secondly, even from such a distance they are quite able to monitor the state of affairs in Crimea.
        Third, they do not highlight any goals. This is basically not necessary. Storms fly according to coordinates entered into them in advance. Their purpose is to monitor radio broadcasts for the purpose of general reconnaissance and to determine the radio frequencies on which our air defense operates. This information is of course used when planning strikes, not in real time, but only after careful analysis
        1. 0
          24 September 2023 21: 48
          At one time, the “state of affairs” on the Islands was “monitored” from the western borders of the USSR. Moreover, “not even” from the territory of the Kaliningrad region. And practically, online, they detected the takeoff of an air group to strike Libya...

          To “clarify” the coordinates of the Black Sea Fleet Headquarters, there is no need to launch Orions, Sentris, E-8s, etc. on the routes. This means, with a high probability, they tracked precisely the movement (coordinates) of the “personnel”... And the objects in which they are located...

          And this data was entered into the attacking missile system, online, almost before its launch. Which, in fact, is one of the “backlight” options. Was this done by the aircraft carrying the cruise missile, which received the “information” from the board on the route, or is it possible to adjust the route of the cruise missile already during the flight. You and I don’t know... For now, anyway...

          It is possible to “highlight” Crimea “by personalities” from Turkey’s VP, but it is irrational. And the “pictures”, in this case, are not particularly informative. Because, for high-quality reception of a signal unmasking the tracked object, the “tandem” - “removal - electromagnetic environment” is of paramount importance... And it, in terms of “clogging” of the received the signal near the Turkish airspace is “worse” than that of the Romanian airspace...

          In addition, the “flights” of civilian aircraft, now skirting the Crimean Peninsula “at gunpoint”, are unlikely to help the “tracking” business from the Turkish Air Force...

          And let’s not forget that these “boards” solve more than just one problem on the route. But the situation in Transnistria, for example, is being “monitored”, which is not entirely “optimal” to do from Istanbul or Izmir...
  3. +1
    23 September 2023 19: 24
    US Air Force reconnaissance aircraft were again spotted near Crimea during a new missile attack by the Ukrainian Armed Forces on Sevastopol
    . Question... are there any methods, systems, or means that can ruin all the raspberries for minke whales???
    Enemy reconnaissance aircraft have been flying near our borders for a long time/regularly, it’s high time to create something that can prevent them from conducting reconnaissance.
    1. -9
      23 September 2023 19: 53
      there is a way - you just need WILL
      it is necessary to plan a LONG naval operation in the Black Sea near Odessa with the involvement of Black Sea Fleet ships
      and create conditions and a situation for attracting NATO ships and US Navy destroyers to cover the actions of the Ukrainian Navy
      so the whole batch is to create a situation to retarget our Onyx and Zircon anti-ship missiles at large radio-contrast targets in the form of an Arleigh Burke-type destroyer and frigates of NATO countries - with all the ensuing consequences from the EU countries and the USA for the emergency convening of the UN Security Council
      - to express concern about the loss of ships and the death of sailors from NATO countries
      This precedent will lead to the shelling of the US Navy base in Norfolk
      - or the US and NATO will curtail their operations in Ukraine
      well, or we'll go to heaven and they'll all just die
      1. +9
        23 September 2023 20: 06
        Quote: Romario_Argo
        it is necessary to plan a LONG naval operation in the Black Sea near Odessa with the involvement of Black Sea Fleet ships
        and create conditions and a situation for attracting NATO ships and US Navy destroyers to cover the actions of the Ukrainian Navy

        Türkiye does not allow US ships to enter the World Cup. Any other “ideas”?
      2. -1
        23 September 2023 22: 47
        Too chaotic, contradictory.... does not look like a real counteraction plan.
    2. -1
      23 September 2023 20: 21
      I would suggest looking at what radio frequencies these intelligence officers operate on, and on a permanent basis in Crimea at these frequencies I constantly emitted similar radio waves to them, stupidly powered from the local power grid. Something like a stationary or towed beauty
      1. +3
        23 September 2023 21: 10
        I would suggest looking at what radio frequencies these intelligence officers operate on


        Unfortunately, the idea won't work.
        Even not the most modern Western surveillance radars have been operating at frequency hopping for a long time.
        And the most modern ones generally emit a pseudo-random signal simultaneously in a very wide range of frequencies in order to disguise themselves as white noise.
        1. 0
          23 September 2023 22: 21
          The emitted frequency does not change every nanosecond, so you can scan it and change it in the same way. And you can make noise in a wide range of frequencies. Or do you want to say that the beauty doesn't work?
          1. +1
            23 September 2023 23: 09
            And you can make noise in a wide range of frequencies.


            Of course you can - the question is the required radiation power. Continuously studying megawatts over a wide spectrum will be expensive.
            And of course, another big question is interference for our own radars, because cunning Westerners use the frequency ranges of our radars, both military and even civilian.

            Or do you want to say that the beauty doesn't work?


            Of course it works.
            But the question is against which radars, at what distance and with what effectiveness.
            This is not an absolute solution - alas, not against everyone, not everywhere and not with 100% probability.
          2. +1
            23 September 2023 23: 23
            Quote from alexoff
            The emitted frequency does not change every nanosecond, so you can scan it and change it in the same way. And you can make noise in a wide range of frequencies. Or do you want to say that the beauty doesn't work?

            It works but not very well. A scout flying at an altitude of 20 km at a distance of 150 km does not care about your Krasukha. Perhaps in a certain area Krasukha will worsen the visibility of the radar, but nothing more.
        2. 0
          23 September 2023 22: 39
          No problem. Noise - “crush” with noise. Even “white”, even “pink”, even “explosive”...

          Moreover, not only the radar on board, but also the entire “information” (reception - transmission of any electronic means) exchange on board...
          1. +2
            23 September 2023 23: 18
            Well, well, since everything is so simple for you, then here is the simplest problem in electronic warfare - the enemy emits its signal with broadband pseudo-random noise, and the main radiation power is in the civil communications frequency range, for example, communication channels with aircraft in the air.
            Civilian consumers will notice this as simply a slightly increased level of interference during communications (well, sometimes this happens during solar activity, for example).

            And what should our electronic warfare do in this case? Silence negotiations for all civil aircraft?
            1. 0
              24 September 2023 22: 33
              Well, in this case, the “monitoring” enemy, it seems, is INITIALLY responsible for “reception” (or interception...) and “processing” of signals EMITTED by objects of the Russian Armed Forces. And it doesn’t “radiate”...

              So, you gave me the “reverse”, let’s say, task...

              And he sends this “information” through his own channels, only AFTER it has been received and processed...

              So, to “disrupt”, it is necessary, first of all, to solve the problem of receiving information by the monitoring board... Yes, incl. and creating unacceptable levels of interference over a wide spectrum. Moreover, the Russian Armed Forces OFFICIALLY introduced restrictions on flights of civilian aircraft in the airspace over a number of World Cup water areas...

              And if civilian aircraft become “noisy” due to the counteraction of Russian electronic warfare systems to reconnaissance flights of US and NATO aircraft, it means that civilian aircraft will have to “adjust” their flight routes...

              Yes, it will become “more expensive” and “more authentic”. But this is “not fatal”... And these are not Russian problems.

              For Russia, the PRIORITY is to solve the problems of the Northern Military District, with the minimum possible losses of ALL types of its military and civilian potential...
            2. 0
              25 September 2023 11: 25
              And also, regarding the “simplicity” you mentioned...

              In Soviet times (I was young and snotty...), in the second half of the 80s, one of the leading Soviet manufacturers of microelectronic components, NPO Alfa, Riga, developed a “compressor-expander” IC, specifically for work with signals “below” the noise level. The OCD theme was called "Equivalent". And it was led by “department 280" (i.e., “box and box”) of the aforementioned manufacturer (and developer of IP and software). The topic was brought to mind. But, according to the technical specifications, it was intended for “private” use ( i.e., for use by a “special” customer). accepted) it was necessary to finalize the CTU according to the specifications. And to conduct a number of additional tests. Including for “civilian” specifications, because the ICs were supposed to be used in high-quality audio equipment...

              The developer told the “series developers”, “you guys need to, you fuck with the modifications of the documents and their “posting” through the Dayton Central Design Bureau.” But for me this is unnecessary... The scheme is ready and functioning..."

              The “serialists” responded “in unison,” “there is no need for us and the “P-fabricated unfinished product” to fuck around unnecessarily. And so the plans for serial production for all “types of acceptance” and new OKRAs for mass production are “through the roof.” ..

              Then, this mutual “butting” somehow died out by itself. People from above practically did not know about it (since the initiative came from below). And no one from above “kicked” to “accelerate” things...

              And then, the so-called "perestroika" is over... Together with the Union...
    3. -1
      23 September 2023 20: 28
      Quote: rocket757
      US Air Force reconnaissance aircraft were again spotted near Crimea during a new missile attack by the Ukrainian Armed Forces on Sevastopol
      . Question... are there any methods, systems, or means that can ruin all the raspberries for minke whales???

      1. Strong army, air force (about 2000 Su-35, about 50 AWACS and 100 air tankers) and navy (50-70 units 22350)
      2. Allies who will not allow passage of the straits and the use of their bases.
      You can’t fly in/reconnaissance much from the American continent.
      1. +2
        23 September 2023 22: 51
        The plans must be realistic... and so, in general, we must become stronger, but not in parts, but in general, in all indicators and directions!
        It's not easy, but we were left with no other options.
    4. +3
      23 September 2023 20: 34
      With all due respect, at least they created household appliances....
      1. 0
        24 September 2023 12: 21
        What's wrong with household appliances?
        The fact that they paid attention to it on a residual basis, alas, did not start yesterday, but we have always made high-quality “galoshes”, better than those that are brought from anywhere.
        About the bias towards the production of military products... everyone already knows about this. Surely many people are not happy about this, but there are also objective reasons for this phenomenon.
        In general, this is how it is, but we’ll see how it develops further... we’ll see.
    5. +10
      23 September 2023 20: 36
      Quote: rocket757
      Enemy reconnaissance aircraft have been flying near our borders for a long time/regularly, it’s high time to create something that can prevent them from conducting reconnaissance.

      “Personally, I have always respected the Criminal Code” (c) O. Bender.
      A few words about:
      1. Airplanes fly in INTERNATIONAL airspace without violating the airspace of the Russian Federation. We are still in 1972. signed an Agreement on the Prevention of Incidents at Sea between US-USSR ships and vessels and in the airspace above... We respect international law. Therefore, we cannot interfere with freedom of navigation and flight (by law).
      2. But no one forbids us from declaring “closed” areas for conducting our military activities (exercises, tests, work, etc.) in certain areas of the World Ocean...
      3. Officially, no one can interfere, but... there are “HOOLIGANS” (such as Senior Lieutenant Vasily Tsimbal) or that couple that in December 2022 went out to intercept an English intelligence officer and by “mistake” launched a missile...
      Both after the first and after the second incident, the Anglo-Saxons did not appear in the sky for a month...
      4. It is possible to “sprinkle” a reconnaissance UAV with “holy Russian aviation kerosene,” as was the case this year in the Black Sea. But it’s better, like in the film “STELS” - (Claw and UAV Tin Woodman) - to create a volumetric detonating cloud from gaseous explosives...
      All this can be done. But in the presence of will and iron Faberge "upper" echelons of power. But Leopold the Cat prefers to quietly catch mice “according to a cunning plan in a multi-way game”... Maybe they’ve already come up with something, not so obvious, but effective, which we (due to access to SHT information) cannot know about... Yes
      But.
      1. +4
        23 September 2023 21: 18
        Airplanes fly in INTERNATIONAL airspace


        Alas, the Poseidons were currently only flying in Romanian airspace. This is 300 km to Crimea, which is enough for them to review.

        But no one forbids us from declaring “closed” areas for conducting our military activities (exercises, tests, work, etc.) in certain areas of the World Ocean...


        Конечно.
        But no one can stop Romania from declaring “closed” areas for its military activities (exercises, tests, work, etc.) in the international waters of the Black Sea. Well, for example, a section of the sky a little closer to Crimea.
      2. -1
        23 September 2023 22: 25
        I would also suggest picking up some Ukrainian unmanned boat, assembling it from the same parts, putting a couple of stingers on it (or so from Strela-10) and sending it to that area, screwing a captured Starlink to it. Well, then blow up the boat. And let them try later to prove that these are not frightened Ukrainian anti-aircraft gunners
        1. +1
          24 September 2023 14: 07
          Quote from alexoff
          screwing a captured Starlink onto it

          aha.. if you do this, then you don’t have to bother with the rest of the “camouflage” - so it will be immediately clear from the history of the terminal - who, where and why.. not to mention the fact that making an anti-aircraft floating drone is not at all an easy task for 3 days ..
      3. 0
        23 September 2023 23: 00
        Even without extreme, you can provide effective counteraction.
        Reconnaissance technology is developing, but technology that can resist and interfere with the enemy is roaming around our territory. It's time, it's time to show them the goat face.
  4. -4
    23 September 2023 19: 25
    Isn’t it possible to shoot it down “by accident”? Then we will apologize if they prove that the missile or drone came from the Russian Federation.
    1. +4
      23 September 2023 20: 14
      Quote: Egoza
      Isn’t it possible to shoot it down “by accident”? Then we will apologize if they prove that the missile or drone came from the Russian Federation.

      It's a double-edged blade. They too could accidentally shoot down our planes.
      1. SIT
        +6
        23 September 2023 20: 29
        Quote from Escariot
        It's a double-edged blade. They too could accidentally shoot down our planes.

        The Turks shot down our Sushka, the Azers destroyed our helicopter, so what???? What's the answer?
        1. +4
          23 September 2023 20: 59
          The Americans are not us, they will not wipe themselves off, but will pinch the tails of someone’s children living in the rotten West, and will seize someone’s offshore accounts.
          1. +3
            23 September 2023 21: 46
            Children, grandchildren, brothers, matchmakers living in the West are traitors. And their parents and other relatives are the same traitors.
          2. +2
            23 September 2023 22: 26
            An American intelligence officer was shot down, our corrupt officials were punished. Where are the downsides?
        2. 0
          23 September 2023 21: 08
          Quote: SIT
          The Turks shot down our Sushka

          And now US ships are not allowed into the World Cup. There's politics here.
          1. +1
            23 September 2023 22: 28
            Do you think the Americans would immediately rush to fight, but the Turks won’t let them? Zelya opened airspace over Crimea for them back in 2020, but for some reason they didn’t fly
            1. 0
              24 September 2023 08: 42
              Quote from alexoff
              Do you think the Americans would immediately rush to fight?

              Their ships, which would stand opposite our bases, would greatly complicate life.
        3. 0
          23 September 2023 21: 32
          Quote: SIT
          Quote from Escariot
          It's a double-edged blade. They too could accidentally shoot down our planes.

          The Turks shot down our Sushka, the Azers destroyed our helicopter, so what???? What's the answer?

          In both cases there were incidents, not regular battles.
      2. -3
        23 September 2023 22: 32
        Quote from Escariot
        It's a double-edged blade. They too could accidentally shoot down our planes.

        And the price and value of these aircraft are incomparable.
        So it makes sense. hi
        1. 0
          24 September 2023 14: 41
          Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
          Quote from Escariot
          It's a double-edged blade. They too could accidentally shoot down our planes.

          And the price and value of these aircraft are incomparable.
          So it makes sense. hi

          Do you understand that you are proposing to start air battles with NATO over the Black Sea? Do you think they will only respond blow to blow, and not shoot down everything that comes close to the coast of Turkey and there are US drones flying around?
    2. 0
      23 September 2023 20: 14
      For accidents they beat desperately. The dominance of legalists, faithful (in words) to the letter of the law (but not to the spirit), clearly affects the common population. You have to behave with dignity, even in life, even in the international arena, these antics of criminal style - and you prove it, boss - are simply disgusting. You need to make a decision, openly do what is recognized as necessary in the process of reflection (if there is any, of course) and then take responsibility for your actions. And if, at the thought that you will need to deal with the consequences of your decisions and actions, you feel pressured to know what, then this is the first signal that you probably don’t need to do something.
    3. -2
      23 September 2023 20: 16
      What can be knocked down, even by accident, from the position of the waiter?
    4. 0
      23 September 2023 20: 17
      Microwave radiation. And such weapons exist. But the range is too small...
      1. -1
        23 September 2023 20: 28
        Place the magnetron on the drone and bring it to the plane! It will immediately tumble! I’ve been suggesting this for a long time, but I’m just picking out the downsides. It seems that those who read the pants are wet, as they imagine a falling NATO plane!
    5. +1
      23 September 2023 21: 25
      Isn’t it possible to shoot it down “by accident”?


      Everything is allowed. The question is for what purpose. You definitely won’t be able to scare them with this, so if only for moral satisfaction.

      In 2020, Azerbaijan accidentally (or not?) shot down our Mi-24 helicopter over Karabakh.
      Are we afraid of Azerbaijan after this?
  5. -2
    23 September 2023 19: 28
    All you need to do is start rolling out pop-ups from neutral airspace to all the Black Sea ports of kaklov. If they try to shoot down Russian planes, declare that the status of neutral waters is no longer valid, and establish an a2ad zone within a radius of 500 km from Crimea. And all targets that appear there will be considered legitimate and shot down.
    I’m just afraid that the leaders have little guts for such things, and they will continue to draw brown lines. For them, Belgorod and Kursk, Crimea and Donetsk, this is not a mask, there are no people there, but they don’t feel sorry for those who are.
    1. +6
      23 September 2023 19: 32
      announce that the status of neutral waters is no longer valid, and establish an a2ad zone within a radius of 500 km from Crimea.

      Remind me of the reasons for such actions.
      1. -2
        23 September 2023 20: 09
        If you try to shoot down Russian planes, announce that the status of neutral waters is no longer valid
        1. 0
          23 September 2023 20: 24
          If you try to shoot down Russian planes, announce that the status of neutral waters is no longer valid

          Were there such attempts? Or are you going to expose our plane to Ukrainian air defense systems? So it won't do anything.
      2. -1
        23 September 2023 20: 19
        But you will explain the reasons not to declare war when attacking our settlements on the territory of Belgorod, Kursk, etc. according to the list.
        1. +4
          23 September 2023 20: 51
          But you will explain the reasons not to declare war when attacking our settlements on the territory of Belgorod, Kursk, etc. according to the list.

          There are reasons, but we find ourselves in an ugly situation.
          firstly, we were the first to announce the SVO;
          secondly, it will be necessary to prove to the world community, and you know whose advantage there is, that it was the Ukrainian Armed Forces that attacked our regions of “old” Russia, and not, as Ukraine claims, armed formations of Russians who do not agree with the established regime.
          Thirdly, it will give us less than we lose.
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    2. -1
      23 September 2023 20: 22
      If we declare this zone north of Crimea, no missiles will fly
    3. +1
      23 September 2023 21: 34
      establish an a2ad zone within a radius of 500 km from Crimea.


      500 km from Crimea is already far into the interior of Romania and Turkey.

      From Sevastopol to the beginning of the territorial waters of Romania - 300 km
      From Sevastopol to the beginning of Turkish territorial waters - 296 km
  6. +8
    23 September 2023 19: 30
    A little more and they will start flying over the Guarantor’s head, maybe then someone will wake up and make some decisions. Each such action only encourages them to push their boundaries, and the lack of reaction encourages them to take even more active actions. Zelya will soon receive Taurus missiles capable of carrying nuclear weapons. Remember how a year ago they were afraid to hand over conventional grenade launchers, and Germany sent helmets. We live in interesting times.
    1. 0
      23 September 2023 20: 24
      A year ago, Khemars and Harmas were already flying with all their might, and at the airfield near Sak, without any Western missiles, the explosions were like from a small tactical nuclear weapon
    2. -1
      23 September 2023 21: 44
      A little more and they will start flying over the Guarantor's head


      Woke up!
      Long ago.
      A Ukrainian UAV flew all the way to the Kremlin for the first time in the spring of 2023!
  7. +2
    23 September 2023 19: 31
    Strange author - Kyiv has no red lines or snot. And there is no impunity - rejection of the Istanbul agreements.
    1,5 g of that jumped over all the flags. Does the Rocket Technology Treaty Really Work? Or are we afraid that our secret funds will be taken away in the Swiss Alps? Except Londongrad and Jersey.
  8. +2
    23 September 2023 19: 33
    They fly there very often, stay in the air for days, monitor us from a distance...
    https://www.flightradar24.com/3225f115
  9. +2
    23 September 2023 19: 35

    It has long been no secret that all the most large-scale and high-profile attacks on Russian territory, including Crimea, are carried out by the Ukrainian Armed Forces with the direct support of the intelligence services of NATO countries, mainly the United States.
    .
    Is this our cry of despair?
    1. +9
      23 September 2023 19: 47
      Quote: Rom8681

      It has long been no secret that all the most large-scale and high-profile attacks on Russian territory, including Crimea, are carried out by the Ukrainian Armed Forces with the direct support of the intelligence services of NATO countries, mainly the United States.
      .
      Is this our cry of despair?

      This is a fucking shame, and a Spanish one, for those greedy and cowardly creatures who lack it.
    2. 0
      23 September 2023 20: 26
      It has long been no secret that all the most large-scale and high-profile attacks on Russian territory, including Crimea, are carried out by the Ukrainian Armed Forces with the direct support of the intelligence services of NATO countries, mainly the United States.
      .
      Is this our cry of despair?


      No, it looks like your cry of despair. I didn’t notice anyone being hysterical on the news.
      1. +1
        24 September 2023 14: 18
        Quote: AndreyKam_Z
        I didn’t notice anyone being hysterical on the news.

        oh, well, since the news says that everything is fine, then we don’t worry.. laughing
  10. -7
    23 September 2023 19: 42
    The escalation of hostilities continues and it is not our fault. Everything is leading to the fact that whether we want it or not, we will have to shoot down scouts near our borders....
    1. +7
      23 September 2023 20: 31
      Quote: Putnik_16
      The escalation of hostilities continues and it is not our fault. Everything is leading to the fact that whether we want it or not, we will have to shoot down scouts near our borders....

      There is no escalation. It was on February 24 that there was an escalation. Until February 24, there was sluggish artillery shelling, but after February 24, combined arms battles began with the use of all conventional means, including and cruise missiles. It’s just that now these missiles are flying not only across the Kyiv region but also across the Republic of Crimea, but this was to be expected.
      1. +3
        23 September 2023 21: 50
        this is to be expected

        When you begin hostilities, it is reasonable to assume in advance that the enemy will at least defend himself, and maybe even counterattack.
        1. +3
          23 September 2023 22: 30
          Quote from: dump22
          this is to be expected

          When you begin hostilities, it is reasonable to assume in advance that the enemy will at least defend himself, and maybe even counterattack.

          It's not fair! Uncle guarantor, stop them!
  11. 0
    23 September 2023 19: 43
    Something must be done about this yesterday, categorically, otherwise it will never stop.
  12. -2
    23 September 2023 19: 48
    Apparently behind the Kremlin walls they like to be terrified....... although I was terrified on the same level as a fagot.....m
    1. +5
      23 September 2023 20: 28
      Apparently behind the Kremlin walls they like to be terrified....... although I was terrified on the same level as a fagot.....m

      Do you have extensive knowledge of the lower levels of criminal society? Have you ever been through them?
  13. -8
    23 September 2023 19: 51
    What is stopping you from “giving” Abkhazia the necessary weapons and shooting down the US/British drone? And of course, having previously covered the territory of Abkhazia with all available weapons. Someone really lacks courage and determination.... Isn’t this someone tired of constantly wiping themselves off?
    1. +9
      23 September 2023 20: 11
      Don’t you want to ask Abkhazia? You accuse yourself of cowardice, but you yourself want to frame your neighbor.
      1. -4
        23 September 2023 20: 22
        Arkady, it seems you didn’t understand my point. The United States is not “officially” at war with us either; they even say that they are against Ukraine’s attacks on Russian territories. But we know very well, the USA is aiming missiles, Britain is tearing up our streams, and we are wiping our snot. Once again, what prevents us from using their methods? Let it not be Abkhazia, but some kind of private organization that will not be “officially” connected with the Russian leadership. In Korea, too, there were no our pilots, but there were Korean LI SI CHINS
        1. +3
          23 September 2023 21: 14
          Arkady, it seems you didn’t understand my point. The United States is not “officially” at war with us either; they even say that they are against Ukraine’s attacks on Russian territories. But we know very well, the USA is aiming missiles, Britain is tearing up our streams, and we are wiping our snot. Once again, what prevents us from using their methods? Let it not be Abkhazia, but some kind of private organization that will not be “officially” connected with the Russian leadership. In Korea, too, there were no our pilots, but there were Korean LI SI CHINS

          I understood your point.
          1. The United States gives weapons to a sovereign state at their request. It is not prohibited.
          2. You are not just proposing to give weapons to any state, but you are pushing to strike at the United States, perhaps for no reason and knowing full well what the US Army will do to this state. crying
          3. Private companies are different. If it is PMC Wagner, then this will a priori be our attack on the United States with all that it entails.
          4. If these are terrorists, then we will discredit ourselves, everyone will turn away from us, except maybe the DPRK.
          5. Even in Korea, having a UN mandate, the United States stubbornly did not “notice” our LI SI CHINS.
          This is an agreement, unspoken agreements call it what you want, but they exist.
        2. +4
          23 September 2023 22: 00
          and some kind of private organization that will not be “officially” connected with the Russian leadership.


          There have already been such attempts. Unsuccessful.
          "Wagner" in Syria in 2018 tried to do something against the US base (near Hasham). And they went seriously, with rocket launchers, tanks and artillery. The Americans ground them into dust in a couple of hours, at least fifty corpses, and then brought the wounded to Moscow hospitals.
          1. +2
            23 September 2023 23: 31
            You are writing the truth, I saw a video about this on YouTube. The whales called in AC-130s and combat drones and massacred Wagner's entire column. They simply shot them from the air. Several hundred killed and wounded.
        3. 0
          23 September 2023 23: 50
          Quote: Vladimir M
          Arkady, it seems you didn’t understand my point. The United States is not “officially” at war with us either; they even say that they are against Ukraine’s attacks on Russian territories. But we know very well, the USA is aiming missiles, Britain is tearing up our streams, and we are wiping our snot. Once again, what prevents us from using their methods? Let it not be Abkhazia, but some kind of private organization that will not be “officially” connected with the Russian leadership. In Korea, too, there were no our pilots, but there were Korean LI SI CHINS

          There is a difference between private organizations and a sovereign state. A sovereign state operates under its own flag and is responsible for its actions. And Ukraine, from the point of view of both international and Russian legislation, is quite a sovereign state. But a private organization and its actions can be the basis for a war with the state that this organization represents.
          In the context of Abkhazia, provided that Abkhazia is recognized as a sovereign state, the United States, after attacking Abkhazia, will start a war or SVO with it and will literally bomb it out. So I don’t think that the Abkhazians need it.
    2. -2
      23 September 2023 20: 13
      What is stopping you from “giving” Abkhazia the necessary weapons and shooting down the US/British drone?
      What does Abkhazia have to do with it? There are all sorts of igil-shimgil. How long will it take for some kind of uncontrolled EPRST organization to appear that will take full responsibility? And look for gopher fistulas in the field.
    3. -4
      23 September 2023 20: 58
      All shootdowns in neutral waters and over foreign territories are fraught with world war, as well as the downing and capture of our ships in neutral waters. Moreover, here the enemy has the best positions. There are three options: 1st - hide our ships by any means (an underground shelter for nuclear submarines was built in Sevastopol), take the extra ones away; 2nd stupidly improve and increase air defense; 3rd to carry out a landing on Nikolaev - Odessa. The best is landing. Many will say that it is impossible. And I will say that it is possible. Only not 10-20 ships, but 100-150 (including mobilized civilians) with the installation of additional ground air defense on them, with massive air support and a preliminary clearing tactical air nuclear strike at the landing site.
  14. +2
    23 September 2023 19: 54
    Are there yachtsmen in the Black Sea? Do yachtsmen have friends in North Korea or Iran? They say that Iranian anti-aircraft missiles and yachts can operate like gas pipelines in the Baltic for Ukrainian divers.
  15. -5
    23 September 2023 19: 59
    Was this area closed from flights as potentially dangerous? Launch a couple of S-400s there, and then express deep regret, they say they mistook them for dill
    1. +3
      23 September 2023 23: 59
      Quote from Bingo
      Was this area closed from flights as potentially dangerous? Launch a couple of S-400s there, and then express deep regret, they say they mistook them for dill

      Then their F-35s can take our planes to ISIS planes. Anything can happen. Do you need it?
  16. +3
    23 September 2023 20: 13
    ... about yesterday’s attack by the Armed Forces of the Ukrainian Armed Forces with long-range missiles of the French-British production Storm Shadow/SCALP on the headquarters of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Navy in Sevastopol, as today Ukrainian planes again attempted to attack the territory of this subject of the Russian Federation. According to preliminary information, fragments of a Ukrainian Armed Forces missile shot down by air defense forces fell at the pier in the area of ​​Sukharnaya Balka.

    Authors VO!
    Yesterday Ukrainians fired both French and British missiles?
    Did you make an attempt to attack today?
    Is this published by VO or by Vestnik Zubovsky Boulevard? Or "Bulletin of Krasnoarmeysky Street from Izhevsk"?

    Attempt an attack. If a rocket was flying, but it was shot down and debris fell on the city - is this an attempt?
    Maybe this was an attempt when the rocket was flying, but didn’t even reach the border?
    The enemy attacked. But the attack was unsuccessful. Or is it not possible to write like that? Because the enemy did not attack, but tried to attack, we became stronger, but the enemy became weaker?
    Maybe we become weaker from our truthful lies?
  17. -5
    23 September 2023 20: 14
    How to bring down this striped dog, he does not fly beyond our red lines. Only a couple of similar sabotages can solve this issue.
  18. SIT
    -4
    23 September 2023 20: 34
    It is necessary to equip submarines with an air defense system that can be quickly mounted on the deck or in the wheelhouse. He surfaced and launched from a positional position. Urgent dive and no trace.
  19. 0
    23 September 2023 20: 40
    Yes, I absolutely don’t care. They fly, and let them fly.
  20. -6
    23 September 2023 20: 42
    Shoot down this Anglo-Saxon! There is no other way out.
  21. -4
    23 September 2023 20: 46
    I’ll try to “concentrate” the attention of the reading and writing public of VO on the source of non-contact influence on the flying “adversary” in the neutral zone - aviation kerosene.... 150 - 200 liters of this “potion” “accidentally” spilled on the enemy’s aircraft at the moment of the maneuver "flight and demonstration of weapons" by a domestic interceptor leave an indelible impression on the reconnaissance crew, especially in the event of an immediate failure of its communications, electronic warfare, positioning, or "blurring" of the cockpit glazing. Then it is possible, with a probability of up to 85%, “surge” of the engines, the apparatus of the “adversary”, with all the ensuing consequences... The economic efficiency is impressive, but the political efficiency (another note of protest from the US State Department, a call from our Ambassador to the US State Department and, further, according to the list), in the current circumstances, is insignificant... After a couple of such “incidents” - there will be fewer people willing to fly in the regions of Crimea and the borders of Russia...
  22. 0
    23 September 2023 20: 46
    Quote: AndreyKam_Z
    You can easily find out such intimate details about panic diarrhea

    What is there to find out? It stinks quite strongly.
    You are lucky that you have sinusitis and don’t smell anything.
    1. +1
      23 September 2023 21: 12
      Quote from kenpachi

      What is there to find out? It stinks quite strongly.

      Under what circumstances did you sniff?
    2. +1
      23 September 2023 21: 19
      You are lucky that you have sinusitis and don’t smell anything.

      I don't even know what it is! laughing
      It stinks quite strongly.

      Maybe it's easier for you to move away from the source of the stench?
  23. -4
    23 September 2023 21: 06
    We need to make UAVs in the shape of geese and shoot down several planes with them, and shrug our shoulders at all accusations and demand satellite images as proof.
  24. +1
    23 September 2023 21: 15
    Quote: Dart2027
    Quote from: dmi.pris1
    , just let the “higher powers” ​​set an example first

    Are we weak ourselves?

    Smart guy, where are you broadcasting from - from LBS? winked
  25. +1
    23 September 2023 21: 18
    Quote from Fangaro
    ... about yesterday’s attack by the Armed Forces of the Ukrainian Armed Forces with long-range missiles of the French-British production Storm Shadow/SCALP on the headquarters of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Navy in Sevastopol, as today Ukrainian planes again attempted to attack the territory of this subject of the Russian Federation. According to preliminary information, fragments of a Ukrainian Armed Forces missile shot down by air defense forces fell at the pier in the area of ​​Sukharnaya Balka.

    Authors VO!
    Yesterday Ukrainians fired both French and British missiles?
    Did you make an attempt to attack today?
    Is this published by VO or by Vestnik Zubovsky Boulevard? Or "Bulletin of Krasnoarmeysky Street from Izhevsk"?

    Attempt an attack. If a rocket was flying, but it was shot down and debris fell on the city - is this an attempt?
    Maybe this was an attempt when the rocket was flying, but didn’t even reach the border?
    The enemy attacked. But the attack was unsuccessful. Or is it not possible to write like that? Because the enemy did not attack, but tried to attack, we became stronger, but the enemy became weaker?
    Maybe we become weaker from our truthful lies?
    I agree, that’s exactly it, Roman hi
  26. +3
    23 September 2023 21: 20
    Quote: Dart2027
    Under what circumstances did you sniff?

    What, what - I was walking along Red Square, there was a wind from the Kremlin. And the stench is immediately very noticeable. I immediately realized that another brown line had been drawn
    1. +1
      24 September 2023 08: 37
      What, what - I was walking along Red Square, there was a wind from the Kremlin. And the stench is immediately very noticeable. I immediately realized that another brown line had been drawn

      As they said in one famous movie, “With your analytical mind, you should work in a forecasting office.” wassat
    2. -1
      24 September 2023 08: 43
      Quote from kenpachi
      Which ones, which ones - walked along Red Square,

      How did you get there from the trenches?
  27. +3
    23 September 2023 21: 20
    Quote: SIT
    It is necessary to equip submarines with an air defense system that can be quickly mounted on the deck or in the wheelhouse. He surfaced and launched from a positional position. Urgent dive and no trace.

    I think it’s an extremely stupid idea - the plane will figure out the submarine faster than it will surface)))

    PS The Boeing P-8 Poseidon is an anti-submarine patrol aircraft developed under the multi-role maritime aircraft program to replace the Lockheed P-3 Orion. Designed to detect and destroy enemy submarines in areas of patrol, reconnaissance, etc.
  28. -1
    23 September 2023 21: 57
    Interfering with enemy aircraft with AWACS and RER on the “brink of a foul”. Up to incidents. Yes, the actions will be “unprofessional,” but the lives of Russian people are more important, aren’t they? Although, for our Kremlin lieutenants, it is no longer clear what is more important.. And so - in everything, in the supply of weapons, in logistics, in the work of refineries, railways, bridges, etc. With simple statements and expectations, it is not clear what we will lose.
  29. -3
    23 September 2023 22: 00
    they fly almost every day, they need to be jammed and satellites need to be jammed too
  30. +4
    23 September 2023 22: 06
    I'm sick of the comments.
    Almost every second person calls for engaging in secret state terrorism.

    Is it that despair and panic have already set in?
    Do you understand that the result this will bring is still a pittance, and our reputation all over the world will disappear forever and for everyone?
    1. +2
      23 September 2023 22: 46
      The strong simply do it, the weak explain why they don’t.
    2. -2
      24 September 2023 13: 10
      Dear dump22! I think that you got very excited in defending your domestic reputation.... Only the very lazy did not “wipe their feet on it” starting on July 10, 07.1997. In certain conditions of the “existence” of the state, the so-called “secret state terrorism” brought and continues to bring quite tangible military and political results, and “whiteness and fluffiness”, coupled with the “syndrome” of Leopold the cat, as a rule, ends with the loss of “face” and reputation, which is what is happening in Russia today... That’s something like this, dear....
  31. -3
    23 September 2023 22: 20
    A stupid solution, which was drawn up in advance and described - to recruit a powerful branch of Massad (suveer) :-) a dude from the Houthi field camp, or one of the others who bear genetics for the Majesty :-) and who knows how to drink an acre of dough, press buttons, buy for public contributions a well-known rocket in the form of a light platform (which we are forbidden to even think about) (two stages, which crashed the Tsereushnik in Afghanistan - at an altitude of 10 km in almost a jet ... !!!, bought in Iraq, which had lagged behind the theft) and do all this a couple of times, even from a yacht, even on number 11 in the patrol area. Pirates can also, of course, if Abram pays them - but he doesn’t pay them yet... :-)
  32. 0
    23 September 2023 22: 33
    What do we have with lasers that can hit satellites?
    Or is it just all on paper and according to reports?
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  34. -1
    23 September 2023 22: 48
    Can someone explain? If we see that AWACS are in the air, then why aren’t our aviation countering them? It may not be necessary to shoot down, but try to silence it, who can stop us? Raise a plane with a jammer and let it fly between the reconnaissance aircraft and Crimea. Can anyone explain if this is possible?
    1. +1
      23 September 2023 23: 43
      Well, if you have 100 planes with jammers, you might get
  35. -2
    23 September 2023 22: 54
    Quote: rocket757
    US Air Force reconnaissance aircraft were again spotted near Crimea during a new missile attack by the Ukrainian Armed Forces on Sevastopol
    . Question... are there any methods, systems, or means that can ruin all the raspberries for minke whales???
    Enemy reconnaissance aircraft have been flying near our borders for a long time/regularly, it’s high time to create something that can prevent them from conducting reconnaissance.

    I’m wondering, isn’t it possible for our plane to fly side by side with their reconnaissance aircraft and “protect ourselves” from laser guidance?
  36. +1
    23 September 2023 23: 41
    Quote: antiaircrafter
    Quote: Reindeer herder_2
    What kind of electronic warfare would you like?

    Any suitable one.
    They put TOP on boats. Why not drag in some Rubella?

    Sorry, you are either a bot or just a person far from basic physics, what kind of rubella is this and what will it do to a scout? It’s only in the fantasies of the crazy SU-24 that it can disrupt the operation of the destroyer’s electronics, but you should understand that the destroyer can’t really affect the Su-24 , it can more or less distort the targeting of missiles towards itself, cause interference, but otherwise the means of combating an aircraft located 10 km to the side is a missile defense system, even if we assume that it is possible to effectively influence an AWACS aircraft with interference from a barge, then it is necessary not just one barge but 1000 so that at any moment during the flight of this plane there would be a barge underneath it!!!
  37. +2
    24 September 2023 00: 31
    I read the comments - you'll get it!!!!
    shoot down (douse with kerosene, attack, attack, throw a grenade at it, hire a PMC to shoot down) an AWACS aircraft..
    fantasies at the junior kindergarten level.

    I’ll ask these thoughtless commentators a question - what do you think, does the AWACS plane fly alone or is it covered by fighters????
    1. +1
      24 September 2023 07: 53
      I read the comments - you'll get it!!!!
      shoot down (douse with kerosene, attack, attack, throw a grenade at it, hire a PMC to shoot down) an AWACS aircraft..
      fantasies at the junior kindergarten level.

      About UAVs in the form of geese - I was pleased.
      When I read the movie "DMB" like this, I remember, "let's bang" on a level somewhere nearby.
      On the other hand, at work, taking a break to read is just the thing.
  38. +2
    24 September 2023 00: 32
    NATO aircraft fly over Romania and the World Cup 24/7, you can watch it on the flytradar. VO, as usual, “pulls an owl on the globe” in order to maintain the spirit of indignation. It would be better to start writing correctly: “to attempt an attack” sounds almost like “rest and rest.”
  39. -3
    24 September 2023 07: 52
    Destroy these reptiles everywhere we meet.
  40. -1
    24 September 2023 10: 46
    To whom are you writing this and for whom...? It still doesn’t really know anything about it.. And even if it does know, it doesn’t do anything. They’ve made a laughing stock out of the Black Sea Fleet.. Just death and... problems.. And it all starts in the Kremlin... KILL IT.. Well, they’ll scold ... they will throw hysteria... They forgot how a Ukrainian missile shot down our passenger plane... They forgave... From that moment the betrayal began... And with Him we will not see happiness... for He thinks differently.... simply tired...
  41. 0
    24 September 2023 14: 13
    Americká provokace zachází hodně daleko.. Stíhači by tomu letadlu měli dát viditelný signál, že příští jeho let může skončit v Černém moři!
    1. -2
      24 September 2023 14: 13
      American provocation goes very far... Fighters must give this plane a visible signal that its next flight may end up in the Black Sea!
  42. 0
    24 September 2023 17: 42
    Meanwhile, against the backdrop of the attacks on Sevastopol, calls in Russian society once again intensified for the political and military leadership of the country to stop drawing new “red lines” and start shooting down NATO reconnaissance aircraft de facto participating in the military conflict on the enemy’s side.
    If it’s not difficult, I ask the authors of the “idea” to answer a simple question: what will NATO’s response be?
    ps It should be noted that many comments are striking in their provocation and stupidity, sorry...
  43. 0
    24 September 2023 19: 29
    Except, presumably, no blows are being delivered to Sevas...
    The rest of Crimea, it is so rest...
  44. 0
    25 September 2023 01: 05
    Why don’t we shoot down American reconnaissance UAVs RQ-4B Global Hawk?! Now, if they had been shot down, then perhaps their planes would have interfered less with the shores of Crimea.
  45. 0
    25 September 2023 15: 32
    Here is the answer about the effectiveness of our electronic warfare. On the ground it didn’t go anywhere, but in the air and on the water it was a complete failure. The enemy took advantage of this miscalculation and successfully.