Simonyan: After the attack on Sevastopol, we must put forward an ultimatum to the collective West as a participant in the military conflict with the Russian Federation

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Simonyan: After the attack on Sevastopol, we must put forward an ultimatum to the collective West as a participant in the military conflict with the Russian Federation

The Kiev regime, incited and pushed by the so-called collective West, will not stop escalating the military conflict with Russia, each time raising its level and crossing any “red lines” over and over again. This trend is confirmed by today’s attack of the Ukrainian Armed Forces on Sevastopol, controlled by NATO intelligence and probably coordinated with Ukraine’s Western partners, if not initiated by them.

As a result of a strike by Storm Shadow long-range air-launched cruise missiles supplied to Kyiv by the UK, damage was sustained. historical Black Sea headquarters building fleet, as reported in a statement by the Russian Ministry of Defense. Five missiles were shot down by our air defense forces, at least one reached the target. According to preliminary data, six military personnel were injured, one is listed as missing, and no other civilian objects or civilians were injured.



The attack on Sevastopol was most likely coordinated with the Western allies; Kyiv has already confirmed its involvement in it. According to the Flightradar24 portal, an American P-8A Poseidon reconnaissance aircraft, having taken off from Sicily at 9:31 Moscow time, was patrolling over Romania during the Ukrainian missile attack on Sevastopol. Previously, an American reconnaissance drone RQ-4B Global Hawk was located in the nearby area.

The editor-in-chief of the Russian state television channel RT, the Rossiya Segodnya news agency and the Sputnik news agency Margarita Simonyan believes that after today’s attack on Sevastopol, Russia should stop turning a blind eye to the direct participation of the West in the military confrontation on the side of Ukraine, limiting itself to routine warnings and warnings. The time has come to present an ultimatum in the harshest form not only to Kyiv, but also to its NATO patrons, Simonyan believes.

The escalation will continue exponentially until we are forced to give them all an ultimatum that from now on we will treat them as participants in the conflict, that is, the military adversaries that they are

— the editor-in-chief of RT wrote in her Telegram channel.

It no longer makes any sense to limit ourselves to “retaliation strikes”. The Kyiv leaders, who have gone off the rails from personal impunity, and even more so their Western patrons, are completely indifferent to such actions of Russia.

Advisor to the acting head of the DPR, Yan Gagin, takes a similar position. In an interview RIA News he stated that NATO reconnaissance aircraft should be considered legitimate military targets if they were involved in attacks by the Ukrainian Armed Forces on Russian territory. Such aircraft must be shot down by air defense and aerospace forces with “warning to the country to which they belong,” Gagin believes.
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      1. +42
        22 September 2023 19: 21
        At a minimum, you need to effectively hit the Zelenskys, Zaluzhnys and the like, and not wait for the weather by the sea. This is a road to nowhere. If you had done this in the very first days of the Northern Military District, there wouldn’t have been 500 thousand killed Armed Forces officers and it would have all been over long ago. Decided not cut the cat's tail into small pieces and ended up with the bloodiest war since WWII. We wanted the best, but it turned out as always.
        1. +9
          22 September 2023 19: 25
          Quote from Orange Bigg
          At a minimum, you need to effectively hit the Zelenskys, Zaluzhnys and the like, and not wait for the weather by the sea. This is a path to nowhere. If you had done this in the very first days, there wouldn’t have been 500 thousand killed in the Armed Forces of Ukraine and it would have all been over a long time ago. No, they decided to the cat cut the tail into small pieces.

          Need to. What if you can't do this? For example, if your intelligence cannot give you the coordinates of those places where they are outside the bunkers?
          1. +16
            22 September 2023 19: 34
            It’s going to kill someone in the ministries anyway. And before, they obviously themselves announced where they would be, so that all sorts of Zelenskys could calmly pose in Kherson or Izyum.
            1. -3
              23 September 2023 09: 39
              Margarita is a smart woman, but whoever listens to her... it’s all somehow sad.
              1. +5
                23 September 2023 11: 18
                Quote from Egeni
                Margarita is a smart woman, but who will listen to her...

                She's just talking. That the Kremlin should say something.
                But the Kremlin has already said so much that it’s already a sin to listen.
                I'm afraid that attacks on the energy system and command posts of brigades and directions will begin again, and that's where all the revenge will be limited.
                If I make a mistake and there is something more serious and effective, I will praise Ahura Mazda.
          2. +29
            22 September 2023 20: 11
            Aron, there is a different problem, the excessive liberalism of the Kremlin. If there were a tough man in power in the country, he would not withdraw troops from Kyiv to please his friends, and he would not give up the city without defense!
            1. -15
              22 September 2023 21: 12
              Quote: Thrifty
              there is another problem, the excessive liberalism of the Kremlin. If there were a tough man in power in the country, he would not withdraw troops from Kyiv to please his friends, and he would not give up the city without defense!
              and the whole world is in ruins! - or this degree of rigidity will not suit you?
              1. +7
                23 September 2023 09: 45
                Nope, there’s no need to go to hell, but it’s also pointless to wait for “404 depopulation,” as someone already said here.
                Cutting off the tail piece by piece is a bad idea.
                1. +5
                  23 September 2023 11: 20
                  Quote from Egeni
                  Cutting off the tail piece by piece is a bad idea.

                  You need to chop off your head. Possibly in parts.
            2. +9
              22 September 2023 22: 32
              Quote: Thrifty
              Aron, there is a different problem, the excessive liberalism of the Kremlin. If there were a tough man in power in the country, he would not withdraw troops from Kyiv to please his friends, and he would not give up the city without defense!

              You were forced to move away from Kyiv. Then, due to the completely failed plan to quickly capture Kyiv, Chernigov and Sumy, there was a real danger of creating a pocket and blocking your entire “Northern” group of troops.
              1. -3
                23 September 2023 03: 16
                Then, due to the completely failed plan for the rapid capture of Kyiv, Chernigov and Sumy

                this is nonsense, there has never been such a plan, no one will capture the capital with 20-30 thousand soldiers,
                there was a plan to demonstrate force and force Zelensky and NATO to start negotiations with Russia, the calculation was that the West thought that Russia was bluffing, and that the West did not need a real war,

                thought that there were still adequate politicians there, capable of diplomacy and taking into account mutual interests, and not just confrontation and bloc thinking,

                and negotiations began already in March 2022 in Minsk and then in Ankara, and Zelensky was ready for Ukraine’s neutrality and there were already draft agreements,
                but then the State Department promised him military supplies and to strangle the Russian economy with sanctions, and forced him to abandon negotiations

                the problem is that the United States has already forgotten how to diplomacy, for the last 20 years its entire foreign policy is only demands, sanctions and wars,
                they can no longer conduct diplomacy even with their allies, for example, when Biden told Macron that they were not going to apologize for supporting American manufacturers, in violation of WTO rules, and destroying the European economy
                1. +5
                  23 September 2023 09: 17
                  this is nonsense, there was never such a plan, no one will capture the capital 20-30 thousand soldiers,

                  These were going. And the whole country, the whole world saw it

                  The events of the last 17 months show that the decision-making competence there was at the level of a conversation in the kitchen with cognac. - Hey, hey, let's go to Ukraine. Hey, what?
                  - Reindeer herder, are you sleeping?
                  - Uh, what?
                  - Are you going to host a parade in Kyiv?
                  - ...When (uh yawns)
                  - Tomorrow eprst
                  - Yes? I'm okay, I'm okay. will

                  This is how they intended

                  Taram-pum-pum-pum-pum. Pam!
                  1. -4
                    23 September 2023 21: 52
                    Quote: Santa Fe
                    this is nonsense, there was never such a plan, no one will capture the capital 20-30 thousand soldiers,

                    These were going. And the whole country, the whole world saw it

                    The events of the last 17 months show that the decision-making competence there was at the level of a conversation in the kitchen with cognac. - Hey, hey, let's go to Ukraine. Hey, what?
                    - Reindeer herder, are you sleeping?
                    - Uh, what?
                    - Are you going to host a parade in Kyiv?
                    - ...When (uh yawns)
                    - Tomorrow eprst
                    - Yes? I'm okay, I'm okay. will

                    This is how they intended

                    Taram-pum-pum-pum-pum. Pam!

                    The creative path from writing about technical feuilletons to cheap antics has been successfully completed. Disgraceful.
                2. -1
                  23 September 2023 17: 28
                  demonstrate strength and force Zelensky and NATO to begin negotiations with Russia

                  To force a demonstration of something is stupid, the Kremlin did not want to demonstrate but to help Medvedchuk seize power with a relatively small contingent, having received power Medvedchuk would have ordered the Armed Forces of Ukraine to disperse, this was a gamble.

                  the calculation was that the West thought that Russia was bluffing,

                  This expression is reminiscent of “I looked back to see if she looked back and if I looked back.” The calculation that he thinks that he is bluffing, this is some kind of nonsense, you seem to be a representative of the Kremlin with such nonsense, that’s why you lose. For example, Azerbaijan, on September 19, they attacked positions, air defense, then units entered, and Artsakh capitulated. Similarly, on February 24, it was necessary to calibrate the barracks then the air defense and start the entire army to destroy military units and the rest according to the classics. Saloreich launched mobilization in 22, which is the first sign of the outbreak of war, they are cultivating non-novelty, how can they count on bluffing? Saloreich started the war and he can be stopped not by demonstrations of bluff, but by military crackdown. like in 45 Try to bluff in front of a shark, so it will eat you.

                  thought that there were still adequate politicians there

                  adequate politicians were liquidated by the SBU, the West turns a blind eye to repression, so repression is carried out on a grand scale.
                  capable of diplomacy and taking into account mutual interests

                  Bandera is in the power of the Saloreich, their goal is to destroy the Russian Federation, you live in the country of pink ponies.
                  The State Department promised him military supplies

                  Naturally, I talked, the State Department has kept the oil market under control since 14g
                  the problem is that the United States has already forgotten how to diplomacy, for the last 20 years its entire foreign policy is only demands, sanctions and wars,

                  They do this great, it would be worth learning from them.

                  Yeah Johnson Smithson you better cook cabbage soup
                3. -2
                  24 September 2023 15: 23
                  Quote from Johnson Smithson
                  Then, due to the completely failed plan for the rapid capture of Kyiv, Chernigov and Sumy

                  this is nonsense, there has never been such a plan, no one will capture the capital with 20-30 thousand soldiers,
                  there was a plan to demonstrate force and force Zelensky and NATO to start negotiations with Russia, the calculation was that the West thought that Russia was bluffing, and that the West did not need a real war,

                  They were going to “demonstrate” what to whom, when a long time ago all the armies, and not only, of the world were in the palm of everyone’s hands. Above.
                  Not to mention the computers smoking around the clock, laying out 100500 options per second of everything that is happening in this mortal universe in real time.
            3. AAK
              +5
              22 September 2023 23: 08
              Yes, if only for the sake of friends! Well, there are no such people, either two-faced jackals, or “partners”, and those who are either on top or behind...
              1. +3
                23 September 2023 10: 03
                So we have such “friends” that we don’t need enemies... Ministry of Finance, Ministry of Education, Minsel, Minkher Menshikov... or whatever it is in our translation.
            4. -2
              23 September 2023 14: 55
              If there were an adequate person in power, there would be no need to fight
              1. +2
                24 September 2023 14: 12
                Quote: Olive1
                If there were an adequate person in power, there would be no need to fight

                Log back Tarasik. It's funny to look at the cheap efforts of the TsIPSO menagerie. laughing
            5. +1
              23 September 2023 18: 00
              Yes, the Kremlin is full of liberals and lovers of tolerance even without him, how tired everyone is of this chewing of snot and the completely inappropriate in this situation restraining our military from tougher and more effective military actions against our enemies.
            6. 0
              24 September 2023 13: 51
              Simonyan's words can be translated as follows: you, Russians, must...
          3. +2
            22 September 2023 23: 15
            For example, if your intelligence cannot give you the coordinates of those places where they are outside the bunkers?

            It’s very simple, extinguish all the bunkers one by one. A bunker is not a cardboard house; you can’t build it in five minutes.
          4. +12
            23 September 2023 07: 55
            Putin has repeatedly said that we can destroy any building and any person in Ukraine. And I don't think he's lying. The problem is that he DOESN’T WANT to destroy this man, he still hopes to end the conflict with negotiations and compliance with Russia’s demands!!! After a year and a half of war, the scenario of March 2022 is still alive in the brains of our leadership!
            1. +3
              23 September 2023 18: 20
              So this is the main problem that does not allow our military to fight even more effectively, without regard to liberal politicians.
            2. -2
              24 September 2023 15: 39
              Quote: Roman Efremov
              Putin has repeatedly said that we can destroy any building and any person in Ukraine. And I don't think he's lying. The problem is that he DOESN’T WANT to destroy this man, he still hopes to end the conflict with negotiations and compliance with Russia’s demands!!! After a year and a half of war, the scenario of March 2022 is still alive in the brains of our leadership!

              um winked
              If they didn’t push the unshoveable <hello to the modernist tongue > into the “composition of Russia” - but limited themselves to the recognition of some “republics within Ukraine” - then it would be fine “at the end of the powers of the incumbent” <in the event of the cancellation of elections, which (cancellation) is “not recognized”> - to beat "illegitimate" after 31.03.24/XNUMX/XNUMX banking.
              And if it doesn’t happen, don’t recognize the elections without the participation of those “republics” and also beat them... and so on and so forth.
              Now they can only hope for “illegitimacy” while slamming their own potion - that’s why they insist on elections. “Internationally recognized”, with “millions of Ukrainian Crimeans, Donetsk and Tatar residents who voted” <hello to the passport database> in Kharkov polling stations - confirmed by “international observers”.
              Therefore, yes. The box with the “referendums” was wasted in vain.

          5. -1
            23 September 2023 07: 57
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            Need to. What if you can't do this? For example, if your intelligence cannot give you the coordinates of those places where they are outside the bunkers?

            Are you another Jew with the Gimlet Rule? Are you involved in military affairs? It’s unlikely, although it’s strange for a Jew that even women serve there, although it’s debatable that they serve, but that’s another question. The coordinates of the target are a priori on potential phlegm, they either do not absorb their own, or others are not aware of it. The intelligence of the Russian Federation is superior to the intelligence of NATO countries, I guarantee you this, believe me. It may sound fantastic in the light of events, but it is so - verified by many years of experience. Rory's potential is plus to one relative to NATO. What are you talking about? There’s just a plan, and that’s where the dancing comes from. Yes, and drink to the Office, thanks to us, there are many people in Israel who quietly drink to the Office...) No offense to your “circumcised” intelligence services...)
            1. +3
              23 September 2023 17: 46
              Aron wrote it correctly. It is difficult to obtain coordinates, especially since key positions maintain secrecy and disguise themselves.
              Russian intelligence surpasses that of NATO countries

              Don’t be ashamed, Western countries have tens of times more total reconnaissance capabilities, there are 200 satellites alone, Avaks are on duty over Poland in turns, UAVs, RTR planes and RTR ships are circling over the Black Sea, the CIA is even monitoring Ministry of Defense employees through iPhones. Plus, Starlink high-speed communications have been deployed.

              There’s just a plan, and that’s where the dancing comes from.

              Is a strike on Sevatopol part of the plan?
              1. 0
                23 September 2023 20: 16
                Quote: nickname7
                Don't embarrass yourself

                It’s not for you to talk about shame to me, sofa. If you are a Chechako, then wrap yourself in a blanket and take a volume of Jack London from the shelf - that’s all you can do. He's telling me about satellites... He's a fucking globalist...
              2. +1
                23 September 2023 20: 35
                Quote: nickname7
                Is a strike on Sevatopol part of the plan?

                Did you want it like in Hollywood dreams? This is not a saga about Americans and natives. At one time, our plan did not even include Brauchitsch’s strike, if you know such a thing, but what ended up happening was the Soviet banner over the reystag. Don’t panic, if it’s yours, and if it’s not, “hello” to Ukrainians.
          6. 0
            23 September 2023 20: 56
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            For example, if your intelligence cannot give you the coordinates of those places where they are outside the bunkers?

            So they all came to the front many times and were even within the reach of our artillery.
        2. -6
          22 September 2023 19: 25
          Simonyan recently “stood up” for Armenia!
          I completely agree about starting to hit! But it’s not for her to decide, and not for Gagin either, where did he even come from?
        3. Msi
          -4
          22 September 2023 20: 36
          there would not have been 500 thousand killed by the Armed Forces of Ukraine
          Well, that's more of a plus than a minus. Why would we need them???
        4. +2
          23 September 2023 09: 12
          And most importantly, we stood in Kyiv! Our victory was stolen and no one was not only shot for it, but no one was punished or reprimanded!
          1. +1
            24 September 2023 12: 51
            Quote: 75Sergey
            Our victory was stolen and no one was not only shot for it, but no one was punished or reprimanded!

            How they punished us, awarded us orders and promoted us. wink laughing
        5. +1
          23 September 2023 15: 10
          Will Simonyan start a war with all of NATO combined?)
          1. 0
            24 September 2023 15: 56
            Quote: Clever man
            Will Simonyan start a war with all of NATO combined?)

            Right now Telegram will screw up iPhone 15 - and the entire universe will fall into a black hole... am
        6. 0
          23 September 2023 20: 54
          Quote from Orange Bigg
          We wanted the best

          Better for whom? For Abramovich and others, this is of course better, but unfortunately, few people at the top are interested in what is better for the people and the country.
        7. +1
          23 September 2023 22: 58
          Armenia! Take that Simonyan back! So she got tired of her requests, she has no strength
        8. 0
          24 September 2023 00: 28
          Do you think the Korean Wars in the 50s, the Vietnam War, and the War in Afghanistan were less bloody?
      2. -9
        22 September 2023 19: 45
        I’d better teach Pashinyan better! Teacher, you understand...
      3. -7
        22 September 2023 20: 02
        Quote: Monster_Fat
        That is, the formidable Simonyan demands to declare war on NATO? Or what?

        No ss... there won't be a war yet.
        1. Msi
          +6
          22 September 2023 20: 39
          No ss... there won't be a war yet.
          The struggle for peace will continue, such that no stone will be left unturned...
    2. -2
      22 September 2023 19: 18
      Then we had to move the red lines in the opposite direction.

      The enemy has crossed our red lines
      That's it for the umpteenth time...
      So who are these “red lines” for?
      Someone draws here...???
      Can we forget about these lines?
      Stop forgiving your enemies!!!
      So that our children never have to
      Finish off Nazism again!!!
      1. +2
        22 September 2023 19: 41
        Quote: Lev_Russia
        Stop forgiving your enemies!!!

        It's time to stop these red lines
        It's time to destroy the enemy, like our fathers,
        For us there are no red and white lines,
        The enemy must be defeated and there is no need to forgive,
        And red and white lines.
        1. 0
          24 September 2023 00: 30
          In order to confidently defeat the Nazi enemy, you must first become red, and not some vague capitalist
      2. 0
        23 September 2023 17: 52
        Stop forgiving your enemies!!!

        For this, iron is needed. If the Russian Federation had several AUGs, 600 SU-57s and, as promised, 2300 Armat T-14s, but this is not the case, the oligarchs stole everything, all that remains is to express concerns.
        Secondly, the oligarchs, for the sake of yachts, will hit you faster than lose the yachts
    3. +11
      22 September 2023 20: 16
      Maybe we need to wake up Putin first? So that he thinks what kind of war this is when they beat us without retaliation? Isn’t it time to start not rearranging the beds, but replacing mediocrities in military officers with military officers?
      1. +2
        23 September 2023 16: 13
        The problem seems to be that the “vertical of power” built by Putin is generally incapable of governing the state. All decisions in the country are made personally by Putin. It opens schools, opens roads, opens pipelines.............there is a plug in every hole, as our average person would say. He has no time to work as Commander-in-Chief. He taught the entire Government to work only with his personal permission. Accordingly, the MO with the General Staff too. What is he, a military strategist? And he recruited SUV strategists. There is no one there to conduct SVO correctly. But he doesn’t give it to those who know how. By myself, by myself, by myself. And who is he himself in terms of basic education and practice..... So think about it. Where does the strategy and tactics come from?
        1. 0
          23 September 2023 17: 55
          Opens schools, opens roads, opens pipelines.

          Then he needs to be cloned and replaced with clones of bureaucrats, otherwise the country is large and one cannot manage everywhere.
          1. -2
            24 September 2023 00: 33
            If he cannot rule bureaucrats, how can he rule the country? Well, or he manages them all like that, and they do everything within the framework of his plan. No one promised that the interests of the majority of the population should be included in this plan.
    4. Msi
      -9
      22 September 2023 20: 34
      The time has come to present an ultimatum in the harshest form not only to Kyiv, but also to its NATO patrons

      I've been writing about this since April 2022. Nuclear blackmail...a very good idea.
      1. +1
        23 September 2023 15: 12
        For example? We hit them with a nuclear bomb and then what?
        1. +1
          24 September 2023 08: 50
          And they will send several nuclear bombs at us....... and what will happen in the end?
      2. -1
        24 September 2023 00: 34
        Since the plan with endless drawing of red lines has failed, we begin a new level of endless threats with nuclear weapons?
  2. +18
    22 September 2023 19: 12
    So much has been said by talking heads of all ranks that I don’t even want to comment on such statements.
    1. -2
      22 September 2023 19: 16
      This Simonyan is babbling, not carrying bags... That's all you need to know about such statements
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    2. +32
      22 September 2023 19: 19
      What has been said is not said, but American intelligence officers will have to be brought down over the Black Sea. Better early than late. We need to start with UAVs.
      1. +21
        22 September 2023 19: 43
        Quote: Sarboz
        It has not been said, but American intelligence officers will have to be brought down over the Black Sea. Better early than late.

        This had to be done on February 23, 2022, and we are still talking.
        1. 0
          22 September 2023 20: 55
          Quote: carpenter
          This had to be done on February 23, 2022, and we are still talking.

          True, but better late than never. At some point this will still have to be done.
      2. +6
        22 September 2023 21: 05
        You can just leave. But first, at least accompany every one of them. So that life doesn’t seem like honey, irradiate it with something bad, trim it, by accident. Well. it happens that you forgot to turn on the turn signal... If only there was the will, you can come up with a lot of things... And then get rid of it - I’m not me and the horse is not mine. They do it that way, why can’t we?
        1. +4
          23 September 2023 06: 01
          Strange people!?
          Where to go? In neutral waters?! Over the territory of Romania?
          This is the Belli incident. Just not for us...
          1. +3
            23 September 2023 17: 08
            Isn’t providing intelligence data for strikes a casus belli? NATO aims its own NATO missiles at our targets
          2. +1
            23 September 2023 18: 38
            Don’t blame ridiculous nonsense, they often graze 50-60 km from Crimea, and this is not Romania or Bulgaria, this is the border of neutral waters with our territorial waters, there is no Belli incident in this case, and there cannot be,
        2. 0
          24 September 2023 00: 37
          “Infecting them with something bad”... Infecting drones with cholera and whooping cough, so that upon returning to the NATO base they would infect everyone, and the staff would walk around and be afraid to cough?
          1. 0
            24 September 2023 08: 54
            Such technologies could be used to shoot down planes with a laser beam
      3. +3
        23 September 2023 01: 22
        Quote: Sarboz
        What has been said is not said, but American intelligence officers will have to be brought down over the Black Sea. Better early than late. We need to start with UAVs.

        Because of the scout, the third world war will begin. It's not clear what they're waiting for.
        You knock it down, then you simply apologize, saying that this is the time. Then again, until they understand that there is no point in letting them in closer than 500 km.
      4. -4
        23 September 2023 09: 52
        Quote: Sarboz
        What has been said is not said, but American intelligence officers will have to be brought down over the Black Sea. Better early than late. We need to start with UAVs.

        Do you want to fight in the air over the Black Sea with NATO? They have 10 times more combat aircraft. Are you sure?
  3. +33
    22 September 2023 19: 13
    Impunity creates permissiveness.
    1. +13
      22 September 2023 19: 44
      Quote: Oleksandr Kiselov
      Impunity creates permissiveness.

      Impunity gives the enemy the right to attack you.
  4. +8
    22 September 2023 19: 14
    Drop Poseidon from the sky and say, we don’t know who and generally DO NOT know that he fell... laughing
    1. -1
      22 September 2023 20: 05
      Quote: olegfbi
      Drop Poseidon from the sky and say, we don’t know who and generally DO NOT know that he fell... laughing

      This is an initiative group of ukrov launched from a yacht.
    2. +3
      23 September 2023 06: 04
      Just a month ago I wrote that NATO aviation reconnaissance should be shot down when approaching 200 km to the shores of Russia without warning, and every approach of the aviation of NATO countries that do not border Russia to our borders should be considered an attack on Russia.
      1. -4
        23 September 2023 09: 55
        Quote: Severok
        Just a month ago I wrote that NATO aviation reconnaissance should be shot down when approaching 200 km to the shores of Russia without warning, and every approach of the aviation of NATO countries that do not border Russia to our borders should be considered an attack on Russia.

        And what? Well, we have taken over a number of their planes. NATO combat aircraft will arrive and begin to shoot down our planes in the same way - what next? NATO will have more aircraft. Who benefits from such an exchange?
  5. +16
    22 September 2023 19: 14
    Empty efforts of our scrappers, for this is the same “strange war”, the meaning of which is not accessible to the majority of those rooting for our victory. You can list for a long time the necessary actions of a proactive nature, and not just the response, but only “the water is dark in the clouds,” that is, behind the red brick walls.
    1. +16
      22 September 2023 19: 50
      Quote: Xenofont
      Empty efforts of our scrappers, for this is the same “strange war”, the meaning of which is not accessible to the majority of those rooting for our victory. You can list for a long time the necessary actions of a proactive nature, and not just the response, but only “the water is dark in the clouds,” that is, behind the red brick walls.

      Yes there will be no action. There is nothing to fight with, wake up! The technology is from Soviet times. Is at least one super-wafer, previously announced by our strategists without education, now fighting at the front? There is no normal, secure connection! The fleet is locked in the Black Sea. Arrived at the fleet headquarters
      . What else needs to be done so that these.....wake up, and not open Ferris wheels and send icons to the front. The trouble is not......
      1. +8
        22 September 2023 20: 04
        These don't even sleep! Due to the inertia of their thinking, they continue to build business schemes. They reason like this: The State is We, which means our interests are the interests of the State!
        1. +1
          23 September 2023 18: 44
          Liberal politics and the market economy with all its shortcomings and excesses will certainly not lead to good!!!
      2. +1
        23 September 2023 16: 22
        The Black Sea Fleet is even worse; it is practically locked not even in the Black Sea, but in the Sevastopol Bay.
    2. -1
      24 September 2023 08: 58
      The point is not the inaccessibility of meaning, but the difficulties of waging war, we are alone, and NATO members are several times larger with the Ukrainians.
  6. +10
    22 September 2023 19: 17
    First you need to demonstratively drop at least one global
    Precisely demonstratively
    1. +4
      22 September 2023 21: 26
      So they dropped it. There is an opinion that the current misadventures of Crimea are a response to that incident. Moreover, the Americans didn’t even have to organize it themselves, they simply removed the immunity from Crimea, and then the Ukrainians with European weapons were waiting for just that.
      1. -1
        24 September 2023 16: 07
        Quote: Yaroslav Tekkel
        So they dropped it. There is an opinion that the current misadventures of Crimea are a response to that incident. Moreover, the Americans didn’t even have to organize it themselves, they simply removed the immunity from Crimea, and then the Ukrainians with European weapons were waiting for just that.

        Now, at the next biathlons, some Belarusians and Koreans can be attacked for “finding legitimate military targets of another country on the territory of a country party to the conflict.”
  7. +7
    22 September 2023 19: 18
    Yes, let's draw green lines and concerns. Well, then we’ll ask the Ukrainians to restore the ammonia pipe).

    here it is...
    A missile strike was carried out on Kremenchug, a property warehouse of the Ukrainian Armed Forces was hit


    Property warehouse! Wow! Despite the fact that the refinery continues to operate.

    So we lived, sold the window and bought the door.
  8. +2
    22 September 2023 19: 18
    Is Simonyan putting forward an ultimatum?
    Is this the birth of Konashenkov-2?
  9. Uno
    +6
    22 September 2023 19: 20
    Sometimes it is better to remain silent than to speak, but for the internal consumer it will do)
  10. +3
    22 September 2023 19: 23
    But the propagandist herself doesn’t want to go to the front? Otherwise, she gives out advice from all angles and forms battalions of alimony defaulters...
    It’s definitely not up to her chicken brain to decide on the answer! I hope there are still decent people in my country who will actually answer correctly...
  11. +5
    22 September 2023 19: 26
    I completely agree with Simonyan’s position.
    The West has gone too far, which means we need to speak more harshly to them!
    1. +3
      22 September 2023 19: 30
      What did you go overboard with? When, for example, the USSR supplied weapons to Vietnam, the United States did not threaten with nuclear weapons and the USSR did not draw red lines.
      1. +10
        22 September 2023 19: 45
        Remind me of this: during the Vietnam War, the Viet Cong attacked California and Texas with Soviet weapons, how many missile cruisers sank, attacked a strategic aviation base, and burned transport aircraft at the bases?
        1. +3
          23 September 2023 01: 46
          Quote: Soul of Russia87
          Remind me of this: during the Vietnam War, the Viet Cong attacked California, Texas with Soviet weapons...
          If the Americans had annexed Saigon to the US, do you think the Viet Cong would have refrained from attacking it?
      2. Msi
        -4
        22 September 2023 20: 43
        When, for example, the USSR supplied weapons to Vietnam, the United States did not threaten with nuclear weapons and the USSR did not draw red lines.
        here's a comparison... belay incorrect, to put it mildly. We have a war going on outside our garden, and sometimes they fly in from there...Did Vietnam strike the United States???
      3. +3
        22 September 2023 21: 28
        Then Vietnam did not attack the FSA, did not organize terrorist attacks against them and did not capture their cities; this is a completely different story.
      4. +1
        23 September 2023 18: 53
        So what, you are still going to justify and defend hostile policies and actions of the West, we don’t need such lawyers here!!!
    2. 0
      23 September 2023 16: 31
      д
      Quote: Astra wild2
      I completely agree with Simonyan’s position.
      The West has gone too far, which means we need to speak more harshly to them!

      They could, they said, they wouldn’t even say, but they did. What we are is how they treat us,
      and it never has been and never will be otherwise.
  12. +1
    22 September 2023 19: 35
    Russia is big, you can draw so many lines. Sometimes it seems to me that if according to the conventional Vladivostok it arrives, wow, then we’ll wipe it off
  13. +1
    22 September 2023 19: 36
    Simonyan attaches too much importance to his person. Solovyov, who simply adores her, will be on TV. who to sing along in unison - Solovyov about atomic strikes on Britain, Simonyan about ultimatums to the West. By the way, Solovyov himself attaches just as much extra importance to his person, with regard to his position and hysterical “recipes” for the state’s foreign policy.
    1. -3
      22 September 2023 20: 09
      Quote: North 2
      Simonyan attaches too much importance to his person. Solovyov, who simply adores her, will be on TV. who to sing along in unison - Solovyov about atomic strikes on Britain, Simonyan about ultimatums to the West. By the way, Solovyov himself attaches just as much extra importance to his person, with regard to his position and hysterical “recipes” for the state’s foreign policy.

      How people like you are afraid to answer, and don’t even want to, thinking that if they hit you, they love you.
    2. -4
      22 September 2023 22: 36
      dresses like Solovyov's habalka... these floral dresses don't come in handy...
  14. -1
    22 September 2023 19: 36
    Who does Simonyan mean by the pronoun “we”. Let him write a letter to the Kremlin, they make decisions there.
  15. -5
    22 September 2023 19: 40
    well, they said (even EMOTIONALLY) they said, well, the person from Donetsk (apparently it was painful) suggested .. and that.. all the steam will go into the whistle.. well, just like from the first (in my opinion, the best) DMB is broadcast by the military commissar... whatever. .like sex with a condom_there is movement_no progress..
  16. +6
    22 September 2023 19: 47
    Damn weird. In 1994, I was taken to Chechnya, despite having -9 eyesight. Now they didn't take me.
    I would, with my experience...
    Maybe he would have died right away. From a stray shell, but it could also have been useful... Here it’s HZ...

    And there are tens of thousands like me. And that’s all... And the kirdyk to the dill. And there is motivation, and we have seen monsters on the other side. But the Russian Ministry of Defense decided to recruit for mobilization those who had not seen the war. From my current job we have rowed the young and strong. True, everyone is still alive. And this is good.
    I read and watch reports. And sometimes one is simply perplexed - how can one call the SVO now? There was essentially a blitzkrieg plan. Now this is truly a war. War of attrition.
    How long will our media continue to call this a special operation?

    Maybe not to the point, but it hurts...
  17. VB
    +16
    22 September 2023 19: 50
    In the war of 08.08/2014, if they had taken Tbilisi and killed Saakashvili, today there would be no Karabakh and Russia would have stood firmly in Transcaucasia. Who didn't do this by stopping the troops? Formally Medvedev, we understand Putin. Russia will be thrown out of Transcaucasia very soon. In XNUMX, after the annexation of Crimea, they did not take the entire outskirts. Now we have rivers of blood, after Sevastopol, we are waiting for another blow to the bridge. Who should be responsible for this? Putin. Constant shelling of Russian soil, who should
    protect the Russian people? Putin again. There are elections next year, we must definitely elect Putin (his friends), maybe, you see, there will be nothing left, but the war will remain on the defensive in one place. Can you remind me, followers, after how many days of the Battle of Kursk Oryol and Belgorod were taken? And Kyiv? For two days they boasted that the plane was hit 70 km from the front. And the Ukrainians are hitting Pskov, Moscow, the Moscow region, Adler, Tuapse, how is that? What's the distance? Hit Rzeszow? Putin and Lavrov, Gerasimov and plywood? What about money in the west?
    1. 0
      22 September 2023 20: 01
      Not in everything - but I will sign.
      Regarding Putin, I know people who poured slop on him 10 years ago.
      I treat him well. During his “dictatorship,” my family and I personally began to live better. But some of the decisions of our commander-in-chief are shocking. A sort of Bidenism can be seen.
      So it’s clear - he doesn’t know how ordinary citizens live. He cannot see from his heights. And the ascetics bring only one news - the servants live in pleasure. And the “average salary” of 70000 is the norm. And there is enough for everyone. And for everything.
      Here, an out-of-touch State Duma deputy suggested that students should not beg for money from the government, but to study excellently, receive a scholarship, work and take out a mortgage. Immediately - from the 1st course.
      1. -3
        22 September 2023 22: 09
        During his “dictatorship,” my family and I personally began to live better.


        Absolutely agree. This is the only thing that reconciles me with him.
    2. -2
      22 September 2023 22: 05
      In the war of August 08.08, if they had taken Tbilisi, they would have killed Saakashvili


      Well, we took Tbilisi, although Saakashvili would rather have fled to the west. Well, okay, suppose we caught him and hanged him, it doesn’t matter.
      And what will happen next?

      In order for a protege loyal to us to remain in power there, so that the next color revolution does not demolish him, it will be necessary to create conditions for the Georgians as in Belarus or Chechnya. That is, put them on our substantial subsidies, fill them with money.
      And at the same time, Georgians will take our money and hate us for it. And why do we need this?

      And by the way, what does Georgia have to do with Karabakh?
    3. 0
      23 September 2023 18: 07
      Who didn't do this by stopping the troops? Formally Medvedev, we understand Putin.

      Yes, but having overthrown the junta in 14, Putin would have become president in the new territories, and for this it was not a shame to be crowned Tsar Vladimir 1 by the collector of lands, but he missed his chance.
    4. +1
      23 September 2023 19: 04
      And who do you propose to choose, another sycophant of the West, like Borka Yeltsin, so we don’t need this anymore for nothing, we had enough of the dashing 90s, we’re fed up, the liberals have already shown themselves in all their glory, they seized and sold all of Russia for pennies to the West, they lowered our economy and destroyed the army, these are all their so-called achievements.
  18. -2
    22 September 2023 19: 51
    It’s better for Margosha to keep quiet, she would pass for smart
  19. +8
    22 September 2023 19: 53
    They ate too much pancakes or something... No matter how cynical it may sound, precisely when conducting military operations, they adhere to the established rules... It was not necessary to talk with one’s tongue while “drawing” tanks in Kiev on the 3rd day, but to develop the country. The USSR established order a thousand kilometers away, and then the full potential of the West was used in Vietnam, for example. And then no one gave each other any ultimatums, no offended children were built in the sandbox...
  20. -7
    22 September 2023 19: 55
    Sooner or later, Russia will strike Rzeszow to make it clear to the West that they have reached the last line after which darkness, otherwise a shameful defeat.
  21. +10
    22 September 2023 19: 58
    More ultimatums.
    Nobody believes in our red lines anymore.
    1. +5
      22 September 2023 20: 29
      Quote: Neo-9947
      More ultimatums.
      Nobody believes in our red lines anymore.

      This is not just an ultimatum.
      This is an ultimatum from Simonyan HERSELF! laughing
    2. +6
      22 September 2023 22: 39
      The Dimon couple became quiet... where is the apocalypse? no one perceives anymore
    3. 0
      23 September 2023 19: 12
      We need to talk less and actually do more, then they will be afraid, and they will begin to respect, and they will believe all our statements, because statements must be carried out, otherwise it looks like just empty chatter and nothing more.
  22. -2
    22 September 2023 19: 59
    Why then are we embarrassed to hand over a limited unknown number of missiles, say Iskander-e, to someone with the caveat of using them on striped bases by everyone?
    1. +1
      22 September 2023 20: 05
      Quote: evgen1221
      Why then are we embarrassed to hand over a limited unknown number of missiles, say Iskander-e, to someone with the caveat of using them on striped bases by everyone?

      The United States will transfer its Tomahawks to the Ukrainian Armed Forces. And this is no longer a small UAV in the Kremlin.
    2. +3
      22 September 2023 21: 23
      And to whom? Who wants to bomb Americans now?
      1. -1
        24 September 2023 16: 21
        Quote: Yaroslav Tekkel
        And to whom? Who wants to bomb Americans now?

        On 4pda. Because they put usb2.0 in the box again, you bastards...
        https://www.google.com/amp/s/4pda.to/amp/2023/08/24/417339/slukh_iphone_15_poluchit_prochnyj_no_medlennyj_kabel/

  23. +5
    22 September 2023 20: 04
    Ultimatum is our absolute weapon!
    If you don’t hit back, God forbid, you have to make a terrible threat again!
  24. +1
    22 September 2023 20: 06
    A participant in a military conflict with us is not entitled to ultimatums, but to hit him in the face
    1. +12
      22 September 2023 21: 21
      But they themselves will beat us in the face if it comes to a fight. This is in a nuclear-free version. And in the nuclear one, it’s easy for Vladimir Vladimirovich to say that he will go to heaven. He is known to be sinless. But I don’t dare think that way about myself.
      1. 0
        23 September 2023 19: 21
        Well, this is still a big question: who will punch whom in the face, we don’t bother with them, but we shouldn’t allow anyone to be strained on our own borders; if they feel weakness and impunity, they will devour and not choke, because impunity always gives rise to permissiveness!!!
  25. +11
    22 September 2023 20: 09
    The reason for the blow to Crimea and Sevastopol is primarily in ourselves and those so-called leaders who rule the Northern Military District. The war has been going on for 1,5 years. Crimea, from Sevastopol to Genichesk along the coast of the Black and Azov Seas, the coastline is 400 kilometers. The terrain is almost flat. It’s simply a crime not to establish air defense defense, especially since we hear threats from the chubby guys almost every day. But no, they can’t or don’t want to, or have nothing to do, or it’s just the way they were taught. This is not to command parades. If this continues, we will expect a strike on the General Staff in Moscow. This is already a very real prospect. I am writing again, unfortunately. Being determines consciousness.
  26. 0
    22 September 2023 20: 10
    Quote: Lev_Russia
    Then we had to move the red lines in the opposite direction.

    The enemy has crossed our red lines
    That's it for the umpteenth time...
    So who are these “red lines” for?
    Someone draws here...???
    Can we forget about these lines?
    Stop forgiving your enemies!!!
    So that our children never have to
    Finish off Nazism again!!!

    So only the lazy didn’t cross your red lines
  27. +5
    22 September 2023 20: 15
    The ultimatum is confused in the red lines. No.
  28. +13
    22 September 2023 20: 25
    Steam releasers-propagandists. With the same success, you can scribble similar comments on this site, the sense is the same as from Simonyan’s words on the federal channel, namely 0.
    Many here write that this is nonsense, one died, the building is not functioning, almost abandoned (what were people doing there then?). This is the tenth thing. Before February 2022, could anyone imagine strikes on all border regions, where dozens of civilians have already been killed and wounded, on the capital? No! Unhappy Donetsk began to receive tens and hundreds of times more fire. Is everything exactly according to plan? 1,5 years, and things are still there.
    1. +1
      22 September 2023 21: 02
      Is everything exactly according to plan?


      Is there such a plan at all?
      1. 0
        23 September 2023 08: 10
        There is no plan and there never was, there were “wants” that did not come true, but now the day has passed and okay, the main thing is not to agitate the country and not lose power, the rest is secondary, and of course they are waiting for everything to resolve on its own, and still possible 6 years to open and launch something and host parades and go fishing.
        1. 0
          23 September 2023 12: 18
          and of course they wait for everything to resolve itself


          Well, this is actually some kind of kindergarten.
          So the plan is to just sit and wait, that perhaps Trump will come in 2024, and he will restore order?!
  29. +7
    22 September 2023 20: 25
    Putin will not go against his partners. It is useless to call him to do anything.
    In all likelihood, the SVO has other goals.
  30. -5
    22 September 2023 20: 31
    Or maybe give a couple of captured missiles to the Scottish Liberation Army and send them to the right addresses?
    1. +2
      22 September 2023 22: 29
      Quote: Alexey Koshkarov
      Scottish Liberation Army

      These are mostly fanatics numbering several hundred people. They do not pose any threat to Great Britain and everything has been under control for a long time.
  31. +2
    22 September 2023 20: 40
    Uv. my friends, as Peter I would say!
    I apologize for the not entirely legally-politically-economically professional comment, but in my deep conviction, most of the proposals made regarding our possible response are expected by the Under-West, since they are monitored and predicted by AI (artificial intelligence) with the involvement of old Einstein and other scientific luminaries, and therefore , our answer should be illogically the only verified one (when in the Second World War the arrogant Saxons, with many years of labor, found the key to the best German encryption machine at that time, Enigma, preventing several major fascist attacks on Allied ships), ... so that a chain of little-known and independent events in all spheres of the Under-West gradually served as a catalyst for the loss of necessary sources of life support and prosperity, thereby leading to inevitable collapse!!! (God forgive me for such an inhumane approach, but for the sake of the lives of our future generations, we have no second chance to come to an agreement with non-humans!
    I have the honor
  32. -3
    22 September 2023 20: 41
    Simonyan and Gagin are great talkers, however. Are they proposing to draw a new, thickest and most terrible red line or declare war on NATO?! winked
  33. -2
    22 September 2023 20: 45
    The United States is not a participant in the conflict, but an organizer and perpetrator of the conflict. Its untouchability, the protracted nature of the NWO, the meat grinder and “grinding” only on the outskirts, prompt one to suspect a conspiracy. What is happening is retribution for the recognition of the Belovezhskaya Conspiracy and the year 2014 as legal. Not denouncing the conspiracy is an unforgivable political mistake and a trap. The elite must personally pay for their mistakes, and the elite must be improved.
    The United States is waging war on us without declaring it, and it is also necessary to respond without ultimatums, at least according to Ramstein, completely logical.
  34. -5
    22 September 2023 20: 58
    Simonyan is 200% right. ........................................................ .......
  35. 0
    22 September 2023 20: 58
    Well, shall we start a nuclear war after all? Let's not all be afraid to go to heaven together in formation?
    Vaughn Simonyan seems to be ready.

    American reconnaissance aircraft P-8A Poseidon, having taken off from Sicily at 9:31 Moscow time, was patrolling over Romania during the Ukrainian missile attack on Sevastopol


    What audacity! A NATO plane flies over Romania as if it were at home! Do we allow them to fly there?
  36. +3
    22 September 2023 20: 59
    “The plan, needless to say, was excellent; simple and clear, it couldn’t have been better. It had only one drawback: it was completely unknown how to carry it out” (c). Lewis Carol... Simonyan will put forward an ultimatum to the collective West and everyone will be scared))))
  37. +2
    22 September 2023 21: 21
    He signed it himself, he wiped himself 10 times, they are already openly admitting that they used it, your “deterrence” does not work because no means of retaliation are used.

    Nuclear deterrence is aimed at ensuring that a potential adversary understands the inevitability of retaliation in the event of aggression against the Russian Federation and (or) its allies.

    The main military dangers, which, depending on changes in the military-political and strategic situation, can develop into military threats to the Russian Federation (threats of aggression) and to neutralize which nuclear deterrence is carried out, are:

    a) the potential enemy’s build-up in the territories adjacent to the Russian Federation and its allies and in adjacent sea areas of general-purpose force groups, which include nuclear weapons delivery vehicles;

    b) deployment by states that consider the Russian Federation as a potential enemy of missile defense systems and means, medium- and shorter-range cruise and ballistic missiles, high-precision non-nuclear and hypersonic weapons, attack unmanned aerial vehicles, and directed energy weapons;

    c) creation and deployment in space of missile defense and strike systems;

    d) the presence of nuclear weapons in states and (or) other types of weapons of mass destruction that can be used against the Russian Federation and (or) its allies, as well as the means of delivery of these types of weapons;
  38. +8
    22 September 2023 21: 32
    Simonyan: After the attack on Sevastopol, we must put forward an ultimatum to the collective West as a participant in the military conflict with the Russian Federation
    . When issuing an ultimatum... you must be ready to implement it and the enemy must be confident that you can do it!!!
    There is no need to shake the air in vain and so... a lot has been said, some lines have been drawn and what was done and implemented as a result???
  39. +2
    22 September 2023 22: 19
    A regiment of idle talkers has arrived. Do they get dirty or what? Konashenka, Medvedev, now Simonyan. Someone stop the hole they're coming out of already!
    1. +2
      23 September 2023 05: 50
      Quote: Plover
      Konashenka, Medvedev, now Simonyan. Someone plug the hole they're coming out of already!

      It is necessary to remove those who pay them...Or deprive them of the opportunity to pay...
  40. +5
    22 September 2023 22: 35
    But at one time, anti-aircraft missile schools were famously closed. Here is the result. As the Northern Military District has shown, the number of air defense forces should be increased at least 2 times.
  41. -1
    22 September 2023 23: 14
    Simonyan: After the attack on Sevastopol, we must put forward an ultimatum to the collective West as a participant in the military conflict with the Russian Federation

    Why do those publicists who broadcast from every iron prefer “we must,” but very rarely speak on their own behalf?
    Either Simonyan, Soloviev, or Kartapolov.
    The President decides for everyone, for all of Russia. But we chose him.
    And who chose Simonyan to speak for everyone? Kartapolov, by the way, was chosen not by all Russian citizens, but by the party for which we voted.
    And his opinion, although more legitimate, is just as personal as Simonyan and Solovyov’s.
  42. +4
    22 September 2023 23: 45
    "In particular, the Russian Minister of Defense assured that if the Ukrainian Armed Forces strike Crimea with HIMARS and Storm Shadow missiles, then Russia will immediately strike decision-making centers in Ukraine." And...?(well, there is no opportunity/strength/will/ so at least keep quiet or something....)
  43. 0
    23 September 2023 00: 05
    49 unfriendly state entities and the rest are conditionally “friendly” with a population of about two billion versus 150 million of the Russian Federation.
    The most developed of the unfriendly ones are members of NATO and the G7, which account for 30% of world GDP versus 3% of the Russian Federation.
    A tenfold industrial superiority gives confidence in victory in a non-nuclear war, and if we treat them as participants in the conflict, that is, the military opponents that they are, this is a nuclear war. Nobody will dare to do this.
    To begin with, it would be worth thinking about supplying the enemy with its own resources during the war - energy, agricultural and chemical goods, all of which the enemy is willing to pay for.
  44. +5
    23 September 2023 01: 32
    Ehh, the king is no longer a cake. It's time for the king to retire.
    1. +5
      23 September 2023 05: 44
      Quote: r5555
      Ehh, the king is no longer a cake. It's time for the king to retire.

      At his second coming he was ALREADY not the same, to say the least. His sobriety, athletic mobility, correct placement of words in sentences and placement of stress in words played a major role after a series of rulers, against whom he looked like an IDEAL PRESIDENT.
      And that’s all...Unfortunately, people don’t like it when words differ from deeds.
      You can deceive part of the people all the time, and the whole people for some time, but you cannot deceive the whole people all the time.

      It wasn't the point that ruined me, it was ace at eleven simple craving for lies...
  45. +3
    23 September 2023 01: 54
    The saddest thing is that now everyone will honk, shout and calm down... Until the next cruiser Moscow, before arriving at the Kremlin, before the Engels airfield, before the Crimean bridge, etc. The list can be endless. This once again confirms that Putin, like Biden’s comrades, needs war solely for the sake of war. All this talk about denazification and demelanization is empty chatter. Putin does not need victory in the form the people of Russia see it, and this is all our pain and trouble. He does not need Russian Odessa and the tricolor over Kiev.
    1. +1
      23 September 2023 11: 41
      But a blow to the Kremlin of Russia (excluding, of course, the leadership of the Russian Federation) is exactly what is needed. Maybe then they will finally decide that this is a threat to national security and there is a reason to use nuclear weapons. For this reason, the Americans keep Zelensky on a leash.
      What about the strike on the Black Sea Fleet headquarters? It's a shame about the building. And the fleet control centers are most likely in a different place. Probably many have seen the grandiose underground shelters for nuclear submarines built back in Soviet times, which are capable of withstanding even the largest attacks by conventional weapons.
  46. +2
    23 September 2023 01: 55
    Quote: Alexander Ra
    The United States is not a participant in the conflict, but an organizer and perpetrator of the conflict.
    Are you really sure that the guarantor is under US control?
    1. +2
      23 September 2023 05: 09
      I am sure that Russia is completely drawn into a unipolar world when talking about a multipolar one. OM Center – USA.
      Know the pros and cons from the North Military District of Russia and the USA.
    2. +6
      23 September 2023 05: 42
      Quote: from_Czechoslovakia
      Are you really sure that the guarantor is under US control?

      Mr. Chubais’s bloodless departure abroad only shows that Putin is not independent in decision-making, and state issues in one way or another, directly or indirectly, protect (do not infringe) the interests of the Russian bourgeoisie, that is, the oligarchs.
  47. +3
    23 September 2023 04: 52
    What ultimatum?! Yes, they didn’t care about your ultimatum. We need to move from words to deeds...
  48. +1
    23 September 2023 05: 38
    ...he stated that NATO reconnaissance aircraft should be considered legitimate military targets if they are involved in attacks by the Ukrainian Armed Forces on Russian territory.

    Now the Supreme High Command must declare this - Putin.
  49. +3
    23 September 2023 06: 50
    What ultimatum???? Have you really lost your mind? The leadership of the Russian Federation itself started hostilities on foreign territory and does not know how to end them and some other ultimatums
  50. +6
    23 September 2023 07: 19
    Almost all comments contain only emotions, albeit fair ones. Need to do something! What exactly is not clear. I think that, unfortunately, we simply have no way to respond painfully, even to Ukraine. Although before I perceived Putin’s “we haven’t even started yet...” with more confidence. Apparently, in reality, we can only do so much (nuclear weapons do not count yet, because such a victory is highly doubtful in its feasibility). Well, what are we all talking about NATO reconnaissance aircraft? If we cannot destroy the nest (famous by the way) of Ukrainian planes that these British missiles are launching. The same is true with Ukrainian Neptunes. They also don’t launch from a wild beach (although I personally don’t know where exactly from, but the Moscow Region probably knows). Can't we destroy these nests? Then what is there to talk about? Or at least make sure that NATO emissaries do not come to Kyiv on regular trains? And NATO embassies did not work there, but were evacuated as at the beginning of the Northern Military District. This is certainly a question of political will, and not a technical one. To begin with, we must deal with Ukraine itself more harshly, and not dream of striking the United States. Although you can think about the NATO members bordering us and Ukraine. I’m not sure that the Americans, with one-time strikes on these satellites, will activate Article 5 of NATO. But these mongrels can improve their brains this way. The only question is what we can actually do now without nuclear weapons. Unfortunately, the former confidence is no longer there.
    1. +5
      23 September 2023 08: 39
      Well, at least it started to reach people. Putin's words turned out to be just words. And NATO realized this back in March 2022 after Kyiv and began to fearlessly saturate Ukraine with weapons, but remember how the war began, they really shit their pants then. But then they realized that Putin is a soap bubble. Therefore, there will be Atakams and Taurus and f16 and even f35. I’m sure they’ll use it too. And no one will start nuclear exchanges in Washington. Russia will simply be destroyed in a convection war, just like now.
    2. +2
      23 September 2023 09: 04
      Quote: Berezin
      Need to do something!

      So we’ve already done everything possible, now we’re slurping up the “results” with a big ladle. wink
      The "Warsaw Pact" and the entire eastern bloc were handed over to dear "partners".
      The USSR was torn into 15 specific "principalities"
      30 years and 3 years of integration into the “civilized” West: “United Europe from Lisbon to Vladivostok” (Whose dreams?)
      The outcome was predictable, but since the 1991 Referendum, who cared about the opinion of the majority?
      Now: “They were deceived and something needs to be done”? To whom?
  51. +3
    23 September 2023 07: 21
    Quote: ROSS 42
    ...he stated that NATO reconnaissance aircraft should be considered legitimate military targets if they are involved in attacks by the Ukrainian Armed Forces on Russian territory.

    Now the Supreme High Command must declare this - Putin.


    You have a typo. Now this will be announced in patriotic discussions at VGTRK.
  52. +5
    23 September 2023 07: 22
    The ultimatum must be entered directly into the enemy command post, otherwise it will be lost.
  53. +7
    23 September 2023 07: 23
    Where are the red markers and the fierce Luntik?
    No words only emotions.
    They sank the Moskva and Berdsk, burned the Minsk and Rostov, and damaged even more ships, including 11356R. Now it has arrived at Headquarters. And these are subsonic missiles.
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    1. -3
      23 September 2023 09: 19
      Quote: staer-62
      Are politicians afraid of a nuclear strike that will kill them?

      I don’t see any readiness for self-sacrifice in Russia. Is Russia ready for a war in which half of Russians would die? I think no. But this is the only real chance to win.
      The ideas of turbo-patriots that the West will surrender after one nuclear strike on Warsaw or London are simply ridiculous. NATO has well-prepared military plans for this eventuality.
      But how will NATO react if half the population of the West (and Russia) is destroyed? Will the humanist-fascist NATO continue the war?
      1. +3
        23 September 2023 13: 07
        Gather all your relatives: children, grandchildren, parents and announce to them all: I want you all to die, I want a nuclear war, “Who are you after this? Relatives will find out what kind of degenerate lives with them.
  55. +3
    23 September 2023 09: 27
    Issue an ultimatum? For the hundred and twentieth time? Or maybe it’s better to finally go down Bankovaya?
  56. +2
    23 September 2023 10: 24
    That is, the supply of a huge amount of weapons, thousands of sanctions are not a reason for an ultimatum??? What idiocy. The headquarters of any military unit is the primary target for attack.
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  58. 0
    23 September 2023 10: 59
    The enemy has crossed our red lines
    That's it for the umpteenth time...
    So who are these “red lines” for?
    Someone draws here...???
    Can we forget about these lines?
    Stop forgiving your enemies!!!
    So that our children never have to
    Finish off Nazism again!
  59. +3
    23 September 2023 11: 03
    Empty chatter, and the West doesn’t care about these ultimatums, they know that all our bureaucrats and their families are stealing money and dragging it to the West, so there won’t be a response from the Ministry of Defense, otherwise they’ll end up in the villa of a respected person, or inadvertently the child or spouse of an important leader will get hurt, consider that shooting at your own people, they have been stealing and stealing by the sweat of their brow, and we will take it and bomb everything for them, what do you mean, they will immediately start a riot, this is impossible, they will scream and make faces right now , and then they will draw red lines again, and then exhale.
  60. +3
    23 September 2023 11: 33
    “We must, we must, we must” is just chatter and puffing out one’s cheeks. Isn’t the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and others tired of voicing this? We need action, not empty talk.
  61. +1
    23 September 2023 11: 34
    Our waiter probably really loves the fairy tale about the “goldfish” - the old man threw the net into the sea and is waiting, but it’s not clear what - the trap will probably come and ruin everything, but the ending with a broken trough does not appeal
  62. +4
    23 September 2023 11: 51
    Will they announce an ultmatum and she, her husband and the rest of the party will sign up as volunteers for the front? After all, in addition to storm shadows and other scalps, all sorts of tomahawks with atacms, which were riveted by 2 orders of magnitude more, will also fly in single quantities. So this Margarita is calling from a warm studio, but she herself is not ready to expose herself to any risk.
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  64. +1
    23 September 2023 12: 16
    Are Faberges present among those who want ultmates???
  65. 0
    23 September 2023 12: 26
    Here I completely agree with M. Simonyan. It is already obvious that the West has adopted a strategy aimed at isolating and exhausting Russia. If we have an offensive, then the enemy will be given both aircraft and long-range weapons. They will keep the conflict in a 50/50 state so as not to give either side an advantage. Understanding this and taking into account that we will not survive the period of 6-7 years (they have already said this), we need (as it seems to me) to escalate the conflict. In 6-7 years, we will no longer be able to continue this either economically or morally. Only the top have their own thoughts on this matter. Time will tell: to be or not to be.
  66. 0
    23 September 2023 12: 37
    Imagine the ultimatum to London "you have 24 hours to cease arming Ukraine or we erase London off the map"...
  67. 0
    23 September 2023 12: 38
    Actually, in order for the gentlemen to think, it would not be a bad idea to launch a demonstrative strike with a cruise missile with a nuclear charge on one of the uninhabited islands near Great Britain.
  68. +2
    23 September 2023 12: 49
    Maybe first we can at least issue an ultimatum to Kyiv and Lviv?
  69. +2
    23 September 2023 12: 56
    I would read further from the piece of paper, and not put forward theories about what to do...
  70. +2
    23 September 2023 15: 12
    As long as there is someone in Ukraine to give orders, such events will take place over and over again. Then they will be even stronger. The SVO issue is political. There is no will.
  71. 0
    23 September 2023 18: 20
    So push it out, why are you pulling? We'll see...)
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  73. 0
    23 September 2023 19: 23
    Quote from Constantin N.
    I would read further from the piece of paper, and not put forward theories about what to do...

    She doesn’t read from a piece of paper, but learns by heart like an excellent student.
  74. 0
    23 September 2023 19: 29
    Who will nominate? And no one will believe it for a long time, because... beyond the intersection of the next red lines, nothing happens, literally nothing at all
  75. 0
    23 September 2023 21: 05
    This editor Simonyan is like a traffic jam. On a program from Solovyov, she offered to buy out the LPR and DPR with the money that the striped criminals stole 300 lard. Now let's present an ultimatum when NATO is already on the outskirts. In a word, dura woman, it would be better if this miracle of propaganda took up its direct responsibility, more benefit, less noise. .
  76. +1
    23 September 2023 21: 08
    When journalists get involved in politics, the result is bullshit. The supply of weapons does not mean participation in the conflict, which was absolutely clearly shown in Korea, Vietnam and Afghanistan. The Soviet Union supplied weapons in Korea to Vietnam. And in Korea, our pilots fought in the skies with the American ones, but the Soviet Union did not participate in the conflict. Similarly, in Vietnam, we supplied a wide range of weapons, including air defense missiles, thanks to which thousands of American planes were shot down, but no one said that the Soviet Union was participating in the war.
    Therefore, now there is no need to invent that NATO is not participating in the war.
    Do you want to make excuses for the failures of the military company? So this is entirely the fault of the Russian leadership. It managed itself without the mythical participation of NATO
  77. 0
    23 September 2023 22: 49
    "We have to...". "Who are "we?
  78. 0
    23 September 2023 22: 51
    In fact, the problem is what is called “but the king is naked”
  79. 0
    23 September 2023 23: 37
    Stop hiding your losses. The video in the telegram clearly shows that there were 2 arrivals. And they write about the wounded and one missing person. Yeah, right now. Because of the general lies, the North Military District is where it is now. Hmmm. Political impotence and inability to respond to challenges will lead to serious problems. And then the loss count will reach hundreds of thousands.
  80. 0
    24 September 2023 03: 44
    And what will happen if the so-called collective West rejects our ultimatum. More red lines on paper?
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  82. -1
    24 September 2023 11: 10
    One real candidate for the presidential election. No, it’s not like that - only rumors about the people’s demand for the appearance of a real candidate other than the GDP in the elections would lead to the complete defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in a week.
  83. 0
    24 September 2023 11: 36
    It is pointless to approach the authorities with a proposal for decisive actions, which are paralyzed by lack of will and fear of the possibility of their use.
  84. 0
    24 September 2023 19: 19
    There is no difference: either Bandera’s followers or the Shavers shaved our military ship repair plant in Crimea and the headquarters of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Navy. Waiting for anybody? To hit the electricity generating facilities in England, of which there are 50, with ordinary Iskanders and Daggers. And we have enough missiles for hyena geyropas and Baltic stink bugs. There are probably about 30 of them that need to be launched, just to put out the lights. We'll see what they do next. A clear stump, they will howl and whine in front of the mustachioed striped hegemon, imitating the inclusion of the 5th article. So what, they’re already sick of us all even without the fifth article. What difference does it make to us if they're not shaved, since there's such a booze to cut the last pie, especially since the North Koreans and Chinese will push them on. Tell them the important news that a massive launch of cruise missiles or swarms of thousands of drones will be blocked by an electromagnetic pulse from a missile defense system with neutron warheads. Or maybe our military inventors have already jumped in and provided the S-400 SAM SAM EMP generators with the usual super-powerful source of energy. They bark, bark and press their ass, it’s not made of iron and they won’t fart with nuclear weapons, it’s more expensive for themselves. They will fight back with conventional missiles, but what comes out of this for us is what they will use to attack us. Waiting for anybody? It's time, my friend, it's time to bomb the vipers from over the hill.
  85. +1
    25 September 2023 09: 23
    We need to hit Kyiv, or better yet, the elite village near Kiev
  86. 0
    27 September 2023 13: 25
    In my opinion, it’s time to stop bleating and destroy all headquarters, decision-making centers and the like, not with a targeted strike with a single missile that has reached, but in a comprehensive manner - from overloading the air defense to its destruction and the subsequent rolling of the entire command and staff infrastructure into asphalt..
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