“Our” currency – the Ministry of Finance is not yet buying, but the Central Bank is already selling

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“Our” currency – the Ministry of Finance is not yet buying, but the Central Bank is already selling


Control currency shot


The Bank of Russia announces its readiness to sell foreign currency for settlements on Eurobonds, while the head of the Ministry of Finance speaks of its readiness and even the need to buy foreign currency. It is absolutely incomprehensible why the Central Bank and the Ministry of Finance are not able to do what they want, simultaneously, without confusing the public and without helping speculative games on the exchange rates?



The recent excess of the dollar exchange rate mark of 100 rubles was perceived in Russia as something like a “control shot” in the confrontation with the West. However, it worked out again: the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, by raising the key rate, also increased the attractiveness of ruble deposits and instruments.

A normal consequence of this was an increase in demand for rubles and a strengthening, albeit small, of the national currency. However, the regulator simply does not have the right to stop there, since the pressure on the ruble associated with imbalances in the balance sheet and the leakage of currency abroad is unlikely to ease.


Unfortunately, we can’t count on a serious increase in oil prices; besides, our own people are playing against the ruble, making excess profits from selling the currency at an inflated rate. Nevertheless, the Bank of Russia is now faced with the need to sell currency for another reason - it will have to pay off the issue of Eurobonds on September 16th.

The sanctions practically forced the main creditor and the regulator to pay coupons in rubles. However, foreign holders of Russian securities, as follows from the materials of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, preferred to get rid of rubles by selling them on the stock exchange. Therefore, it was decided to return to paying interest in foreign currency.

Thus, they, foreigners, and not just some notorious unidentified speculators, seem to have collapsed the exchange rate of the national currency at the end of August. At least, this is exactly the conclusion that the Central Bank of the Russian Federation wants to present to us. Now the Bank of Russia has already announced massive sales of foreign currency.

Bank quote book


From the official statement of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation it became known that from September 14 to 22, the bank will sell 150 billion rubles. Daily sales volumes will increase these days by almost ten times compared to usual - up to 21,4 billion rubles instead of 2,3 billion rubles.

All this was announced surprisingly simultaneously with the Minister of Finance, who stated that it was still necessary to buy Russian currency. We read further in the materials of the Central Bank:

“The issue volume of this issue is 3 billion US dollars. Payments to Eurobond holders in accordance with the established procedure will be made by the Russian Ministry of Finance in rubles, and therefore some of the Eurobond holders after their redemption may present additional demand for foreign currency.
Under these conditions, the decision to redistribute sales of foreign currency within the framework of mirroring transactions related to the investment of funds of the National Welfare Fund will help satisfy possible additional demand for foreign currency and reduce volatility in the foreign exchange market during this period.”

We apologize for the too long quote, but if they write to us about the volumes of foreign currency that are subject to sale as part of mirroring transactions, you will involuntarily begin to doubt something. After all, we are talking about investing funds from the National Welfare Fund in the first half of 2023.

You will have to pay for your money with your own money during the period from September 25, 2023 to January 31, 2024. And also with interest. Again, something and someone is shifting from one pocket to another, as was the case with the sale of Sberbank to the government of the country.
By whom? Yes, again, the Central Bank! Indeed, why does he, once the main shareholder, need such a burden? Ballast on balance. Now the Central Bank of the Russian Federation will pay it off, and for two whole years you will be free like the wind. There will be no need to pay off such volumes of Eurobonds in the near future.

Currency is a currency, but it’s hard to believe that sales of the Central Bank will in any way bring down its exchange rate. It’s not just that Elvira Nabiullina has already hinted that on September 15 we can expect another increase in the key rate. So what, you couldn’t wait?

Is the buyer always right?


But let’s turn instead to the Ministry of Finance - hardly the worst possible buyer of currency from the Central Bank. Anton Siluanov, of course, made a reservation that the Ministry of Finance is preparing to buy the currencies of friendly countries, such as the yuan, and the Bank of Russia will most likely sell dollars and euros.


Maybe extra? And in the end, what is the difference between convertible currencies, which ones are sold and which ones are bought. If only it didn’t hit the ruble. And why does the Ministry of Finance need foreign currency at all and why doesn’t it immediately be sent there from the Central Bank of the Russian Federation?

Or maybe the very independence of our very Central of all central banks in the world is to blame for everything? The Ministry of Finance says that they buy currency within the framework of the budget rule - that is, that which exceeds the level established by law.

Look what Minister Siluanov says about this:

“If we decide to go out with purchases, we will proceed from the restoration of the current budget rule, that is, we have a cut-off price of 44,2 dollars, and everything that is higher can be sent to the National Welfare Fund.”

Here again this National Welfare Fund is some kind of enchanted fund, from which they seem to take money, and then also pay interest on it in foreign currency (and it seems that our own Central Bank is doing all this).


And here you are - the Ministry of Finance has decided to replenish the National Welfare Fund again? So why not immediately take and deposit into this Fund the very currency that the Central Bank will sell? Why give coupons instead of rubles to adversaries?

But what, our Central Bank cannot live according to the same scheme as the Ministry of Finance, and according to some similar “budget rule”? And you also don’t have the right to sell the currency directly to the Ministry of Finance? Otherwise, the Central Bank sells something to someone, and “someone here and there sometimes,” as in the song, receives a commission.

The Ministry of Finance buys foreign currency according to the rule,” but are commissions also due to someone somewhere and for something? This is how we live, some don’t buy, but for now, and some don’t sell, and also for now.

As a result, as the famous financial analyst Vladislav Antonov noted, “despite the rise in oil prices, the ruble may continue to decline due to the imbalance between supply and demand.” And the increase in foreign currency purchases by the Ministry of Finance is another factor not in favor of the growth of the ruble exchange rate.
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  1. +15
    10 September 2023 05: 42
    The fifth column in its role. What sanctions could not achieve, with terrible losses for Europe and the United States, Nabiullina & Co. do for free (for the West) and voluntarily (for the Russian Federation).
    The goals and functions of the Bank of Russia are determined by Federal Law No. 10-FZ of July 2002, 86 “On the Central Bank of the Russian Federation (Bank of Russia)”. According to this law, the Central Bank has five goals. I’ll just name the main one, it’s the first on the list:
    - protecting and ensuring the stability of the ruble...

    Give at least one example of how the Central Bank, headed by Nabiullina, protects the ruble and ensures its stability.
    The weakening of the ruble is, first of all, a blow to industry and agriculture in the Russian Federation. Ultimately, this is a stab in the back of the SVO. As we see, the “Peace Party” is doing everything to destroy them. Why has the unsinkable Nabiullina, acting exclusively in the interests of the West, still not flown out of her chair?
    1. man
      +14
      10 September 2023 07: 31
      Why has the unsinkable Nabiullina, acting exclusively in the interests of the West, still not flown out of her chair?
      and did not fly into Lefortovo
      1. +15
        10 September 2023 08: 09
        Because the Kremlin knows who is sitting there. It made me smile about the “fifth column”... They say the right things, like things, but they do something completely different
    2. +7
      10 September 2023 09: 48
      Quote: Old electrician
      What sanctions could not achieve, with terrible losses for Europe and the United States, Nabiullina & Co. do for free (for the West) and voluntarily (for the Russian Federation).

      To be fair, Nabiullina does not have all the leverage over the ruble exchange rate. The Central Bank was made a kind of scapegoat to cover up the actions of some (geo)political “geniuses”.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCzhMFcyF0s
      1. +1
        10 September 2023 12: 35
        Quote: Amateur
        he will have to pay off the Eurobond issue on September 16th.

        Why not, instead of currency, not give Eurobond holders a nice piece of paper stating that they will receive their money from Russian funds frozen by decisions of the United States and the European Commission? They can *(deceive) us, but why can’t we?
        At one time, the Russian Federation paid off the royal debts. But for some reason no one remembered the “Kolchak gold” exported to Japan or part of the gold reserves of the Republic of Ingushetia, stolen by Czech legionnaires and taken to Czechoslovakia and demanded not only interest, but also the gold itself?
        It’s not for nothing that the “shitcrats,” when “drawing” the new constitution of the Russian Federation, took the Central Bank “out of the picture, as it were.”
        ps On the Zvezda TV channel they regularly show children with cancer and ask them to “donate” for their treatment or medicine. At the same time, grain is sent to “African children” for FREE, and the Central Bank is going to pay dividends to “other people’s uncles.” Maybe that's enough. Maybe first we need to resolve issues with our children and our elderly, and only then the blacks in Africa.

        Because it's called defaulting
        1. -2
          27 September 2023 11: 07
          Quote from Tim666
          Quote: Amateur
          he will have to pay off the Eurobond issue on September 16th.

          Why not, instead of currency, not give Eurobond holders a nice piece of paper stating that they will receive their money from Russian funds frozen by decisions of the United States and the European Commission? They can *(deceive) us, but why can’t we?
          At one time, the Russian Federation paid off the royal debts. But for some reason no one remembered the “Kolchak gold” exported to Japan or part of the gold reserves of the Republic of Ingushetia, stolen by Czech legionnaires and taken to Czechoslovakia and demanded not only interest, but also the gold itself?
          It’s not for nothing that the “shitcrats,” when “drawing” the new constitution of the Russian Federation, took the Central Bank “out of the picture, as it were.”
          ps On the Zvezda TV channel they regularly show children with cancer and ask them to “donate” for their treatment or medicine. At the same time, grain is sent to “African children” for FREE, and the Central Bank is going to pay dividends to “other people’s uncles.” Maybe that's enough. Maybe first we need to resolve issues with our children and our elderly, and only then the blacks in Africa.

          Because it's called defaulting

          What, Ukraine has already paid us interest and debts on Eurobonds?
    3. +2
      10 September 2023 11: 22
      The fifth column in its role. What sanctions could not achieve, with terrible losses for Europe and the United States, Nabiullina & Co. do for free (for the West) and voluntarily (for the Russian Federation).
      The goals and functions of the Bank of Russia are determined by Federal Law No. 10-FZ of July 2002, 86 “On the Central Bank of the Russian Federation (Bank of Russia)”. According to this law, the Central Bank has five goals. I’ll just name the main one, it’s the first on the list:
      - protecting and ensuring the stability of the ruble...

      Give at least one example of how the Central Bank, headed by Nabiullina, protects the ruble and ensures its stability.
      The weakening of the ruble is, first of all, a blow to industry and agriculture in the Russian Federation. Ultimately, this is a stab in the back of the SVO. As we see, the “Peace Party” is doing everything to destroy them. Why has the unsinkable Nabiullina, acting exclusively in the interests of the West, still not flown out of her chair?

      Nabiullina simply follows instructions. Any. Even those that contradict economic laws. wink
    4. 0
      10 September 2023 16: 23
      Isn’t it time to decorate the lanterns with new pendants? On strings, and not all by the neck....
  2. +25
    10 September 2023 05: 54
    he will have to pay off the Eurobond issue on September 16th.

    Why not, instead of currency, not give Eurobond holders a nice piece of paper stating that they will receive their money from Russian funds frozen by decisions of the United States and the European Commission? They can *(deceive) us, but why can’t we?
    At one time, the Russian Federation paid off the royal debts. But for some reason no one remembered the “Kolchak gold” exported to Japan or part of the gold reserves of the Republic of Ingushetia, stolen by Czech legionnaires and taken to Czechoslovakia and demanded not only interest, but also the gold itself?
    It’s not for nothing that the “shitcrats,” when “drawing” the new constitution of the Russian Federation, took the Central Bank “out of the picture, as it were.”
    ps On the Zvezda TV channel they regularly show children with cancer and ask them to “donate” for their treatment or medicine. At the same time, grain is sent to “African children” for FREE, and the Central Bank is going to pay dividends to “other people’s uncles.” Maybe that's enough. Maybe first we need to resolve issues with our children and our elderly, and only then the blacks in Africa.
    1. +1
      10 September 2023 06: 57
      This is correct, you can vote with both hands.., but for now, the same White Czechs are martyred heroes for the modern Russian Federation, with a bunch of memorial steles.. And, patriotic bots have infiltrated here too, diligently minus, which does not fit into the manual..
    2. +9
      10 September 2023 08: 51
      Quote: Amateur
      Maybe that's enough.

      As long as global capital rules the roost, there won’t be enough...

      Quote: Amateur
      Maybe we need to decide first...

      Only what is now beneficial to world capital, they won’t bother much about the rest...

      Quote: Amateur
      only then blacks in Africa.

      We are very sympathetic to all countries that care so much about poor Africa, they care around the clock, without breaks for lunch and weekends. But for some reason Africans haven’t started to live better in recent decades...
      1. 0
        10 September 2023 11: 27
        Quote: Doccor18
        Quote: Amateur
        Maybe that's enough.

        As long as global capital rules the roost, there won’t be enough...

        Quote: Amateur
        Maybe we need to decide first...

        Only what is now beneficial to world capital, they won’t bother much about the rest...

        Quote: Amateur
        only then blacks in Africa.

        We are very sympathetic to all countries that care so much about poor Africa, they care around the clock, without breaks for lunch and weekends. But for some reason Africans haven’t started to live better in recent decades...

        Because there, like those Turks, they already need trillions at once.
        No amount of “millions of tons of grain” once a year, a teaspoon of it, will evolve into anything
      2. -1
        27 September 2023 11: 11
        Quote: Doccor18
        Quote: Amateur
        Maybe that's enough.

        As long as global capital rules the roost, there won’t be enough...

        Quote: Amateur
        Maybe we need to decide first...

        Only what is now beneficial to world capital, they won’t bother much about the rest...

        Quote: Amateur
        only then blacks in Africa.

        We are very sympathetic to all countries that care so much about poor Africa, they care around the clock, without breaks for lunch and weekends. But for some reason Africans haven’t started to live better in recent decades...

        But they won’t live better, because they breed like rabbits, but don’t produce anything. However, Khusnulin has an idea to bring them to Russia
    3. -7
      10 September 2023 10: 12
      Amateur, undoubtedly your performance, based on the near-historical fantasies and logic of Poligraf Poligrafovich, is impressive. And even contributes to some uproar among the masses. Amateurish like you and naive. For all the good against all the bad. Hooray. hi
  3. +6
    10 September 2023 05: 55
    There will be no sense with the old guarantor. But if a new one, like Strelkov, comes and shoots all this disgusting scum of enemies of the people, and appoints patriots to these positions. Then the dollar will be 60 kopecks, and not a hundred rubles as it is now for speculators and industry It will go away and the traders will have their tails cut and they will stop exporting currency from the country (there will be a problem). Not immediately, but within a year - a year and a half for sure.
    1. +5
      10 September 2023 06: 11
      But if a new one, like Strelkov, comes and shoots all this disgusting scum of enemies of the people...
      - Could you explain on what your faith in the adventurer Strelkov is based?
      In his political views, Strelkov is a monarchist and an admirer of the ideology of the White movement. In turn, the ideology of the White movement is based on groveling before the USA, England and France. I’ve seen enough of such rally screamers since the times of Perestroika. I would rather believe that under Strelkov the Russian Federation will voluntarily unilaterally give up nuclear weapons than that he will shoot his benefactors.
      1. +8
        10 September 2023 07: 36
        Quote: Old electrician
        What is your belief in the adventurer Strelkov based on?

        If Strelkov is an adventurer, then what should we call those who lead us?
        1. +4
          10 September 2023 10: 14
          Quote: Stas157
          Quote: Old electrician
          What is your belief in the adventurer Strelkov based on?

          If Strelkov is an adventurer, then what should we call those who lead us?

          They are called policies. Power is the next stage in the development of adventurers.
          1. +3
            10 September 2023 11: 29
            Quote: ian
            Quote: Stas157
            Quote: Old electrician
            What is your belief in the adventurer Strelkov based on?

            If Strelkov is an adventurer, then what should we call those who lead us?

            They are called policies. Power is the next stage in the development of adventurers.

            What are you talking about feudal lords?))
      2. AUL
        +10
        10 September 2023 07: 43
        Quote: Old electrician
        In turn, the ideology of the White movement is based on groveling before the USA, England and France.

        Well, a very controversial statement! Can you somehow justify it (without demagoguery and slogans)?
        1. 0
          10 September 2023 08: 18
          Quote from AUL
          Can you somehow justify (without demagogy and slogans)?

          "History is not a teacher, but a warden. She does not teach anything, but only punishes for a lesson not learned" - Klyuchevsky.

          He who pays dances:

          "Tunic English,
          Shoulder strap french
          Japanese tobacco,
          Ruler of Omsk. "

          History has long ago put everything in its place. The Whites fought for the interests of the ENTENTE.
          1. 0
            10 September 2023 13: 28
            This is the height of objective thinking - passing off propaganda poems as truth. In this case, it is possible to pass off German propaganda from the Second World War as objective reality.
          2. -1
            27 September 2023 11: 20
            Quote: Boris55
            Quote from AUL
            Can you somehow justify (without demagogy and slogans)?

            "History is not a teacher, but a warden. She does not teach anything, but only punishes for a lesson not learned" - Klyuchevsky.

            He who pays dances:

            "Tunic English,
            Shoulder strap french
            Japanese tobacco,
            Ruler of Omsk. "

            History has long ago put everything in its place. The Whites fought for the interests of the ENTENTE.

            For what interests? Did they give up Finland and Poland? Or did they sign the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk? The Entente stopped supplying weapons and ammunition to Denikin and Wrangel, which predetermined their collapse
        2. +10
          10 September 2023 09: 05
          Quote from AUL
          Quote: Old electrician
          In turn, the ideology of the White movement is based on groveling before the USA, England and France.

          Well, a very controversial statement! Can you somehow justify it (without demagoguery and slogans)?

          Yes, there was no idea, “ideology of the white movement,” a hodgepodge of Social Revolutionaries to monarchists, half of whom were populists, and half of whom fought only for their own narrow goals. That is why the good support for the white movement at the initial stage collapsed so quickly and ingloriously. No idea - no victory, which means no future. And so it happened.
          1. +6
            10 September 2023 10: 45
            That is why there was good support for the white movement at the initial stage
            I read it and thought. These are the results in the Northern Military District, that whites are fighting against whites.
            1. -11
              10 September 2023 12: 19
              Quote: Gardamir
              I read it and thought. These are the results in the Northern Military District, that whites are fighting against whites.

              No. We are not white. We are fighting under red banners. Don't believe me? Then look on the Internet for some full The banners in the troops are still the same as under the USSR. You can see this by looking at the parades held on May 9th...



              We are fighting the fascists, and Vlasovites of all stripes are breathing in our backs...
              Guess what these three pictures have in common?

              1. -1
                27 September 2023 11: 34
                Quote: Boris55
                Quote: Gardamir
                I read it and thought. These are the results in the Northern Military District, that whites are fighting against whites.

                No. We are not white. We are fighting under red banners. Don't believe me? Then look on the Internet for some full The banners in the troops are still the same as under the USSR. You can see this by looking at the parades held on May 9th...



                We are fighting the fascists, and Vlasovites of all stripes are breathing in our backs...
                Guess what these three pictures have in common?


                When will it dawn on you that there are at most 5% of fascists in Ukraine? And yes, the whites had their own ideology “for faith, the tsar and the fatherland.” But this ideology was not needed by the peasants and workers, who were promised a bright future and communism. They just forgot to say that not everyone would survive. As a result, the USSR project collapsed through 70 years old
            2. +5
              10 September 2023 17: 31
              come on, how Vasilich cried recently, we are our own bourgeois. so it turns out...our bourgeois against their bourgeois
        3. +1
          10 September 2023 14: 48
          AUL (Alexander Yurievich)
          Today, 07: 43
          NEW
          +7
          Quote: Old electrician
          In turn, the ideology of the White movement is based on groveling before the USA, England and France.
          – does this surprise you?
          Let me start with the fact that I have immense respect for such Russian tsars and emperors as Ivan the Terrible, Peter I, Elizaveta Petrovna and Catherine the Great. They made Russia Great. It is noteworthy that for modern liberal historians the Greatness of Russia is like a bone in the throat, therefore, competing in lies, they never tire of throwing mud at them. Ivan the Terrible and Peter I especially suffer.
          With Peter III, the Romanov dynasty came to an end. The illegitimate Paul I was the first representative of the Holstein-Gottopian dynasty.
          The last representative of this dynasty on the Russian throne, Nicholas II, is an openly Russophobic squalor who sacrificed the Russian Empire for the sake of the interests of Russia’s worst enemies - England and France. Suffice it to say that Wilhelm II did not set himself the task of eliminating the autocracy. From the word in general. In 1915, the year of the Germans' general offensive against Russia, all Wilhelm wanted was to force the Tsar to a separate peace. Did not work out. In “gratitude” for this, the then pro-Western liberals, with the direct support and instructions of their “allies” - England and France, overthrew the Tsar Father and liquidated the Russian Empire.
          Who is now laying claim to the Russian throne?
          During the February Revolution, Grand Duke Kirill Vladimirovich (1876-1938) - the second son of Grand Duke Vladimir Alexandrovich, third son of Emperor Alexander II, cousin of Nicholas II - shone in public. After the abdication of the tsar, Kirill Vladimirovich stated that he personally and the military unit entrusted to him went over to the side of the State Duma and were glad of the revolution taking place. The red bow that Grand Duke Kirill proudly wore in 1917 did not prevent him from proclaiming himself Emperor of All Russia Kirill I in exile in 1924.
          His son Vladimir Kirillovich (1917-1992) received the title “Grand Duke” in 1924, and since 1938 has been a contender for the Russian throne and head of the Russian Imperial House. During the war years, the heir to the throne sported a German uniform and longed for Nazi Germany to bestow upon him the Russian throne on a piece of the huge cemetery into which Hitler wanted to turn Russia.
          At the end of the war, the heir joined the Russland division (also known as the Green Special Purpose Army and the 1st Russian National Army). The division was initially formed by the Abwehr in July 1941 under the name “Training Battalion”; it became the “Russland” division in 1943. Throughout the war it was commanded by Abwehr Sondeführer B.A. Smyslovsky. Smyslovsky is a Denikinite, a member of the ROVS, who joined the Abwehr back in the 20s. The purpose of the division is punitive operations against partisans and the population in the occupied territories. Since “Russland” is a division of the Abwehr, during punitive operations it widely practiced provocations in the form of false partisan detachments, etc. To achieve this, Rusland collaborated with the OUN-UPA, the Home Army, etc. bandits, executioners and punitive forces... Formally, the Abwehr is not yet the SS, but in terms of bloodiness it will give the SS a head start.
          Together with Russland, the heir darted from the Red Army to Liechtenstein, and from there he disappeared under the wing of dictator Franco in Spain.
          Already in 1952, this candidate for king climbed out of the trash heap and called on the West to war against the USSR. Of course, nuclear. It’s hard to imagine how many Russians this ghoul was going to kill in order to place the crown on his own head.
          Currently, his daughter Maria Vladimirovna Hohenzollern (her ex-husband is the great-grandson of Kaiser Wilhelm II) trades in orders of the Russian Empire and titles of nobility. All descendants of Kirill Vladimirovich were raised in the West in the spirit of fierce Russophobia. Are you ready to die in a nuclear war to restore the Holstein-Gottopian-Hohenzollerns to the throne? Personally, I don't.
          Now about the White movement. There is such an openly Russophobic Western project “Wikipedia”. Out of interest, I looked at the article about the EMRO.
          It is noteworthy that the article does not say anything about the cooperation of the EMRO with the Nazis. A quote revealing the basis of their ideology:
          The ideological position of the EMRO is most fully outlined in the works of its main ideologist, Professor Ivan Aleksandrovich Ilyin (1883-1954). The magazine “Russian Bell” he published (1927-1930) allowed the EMRO to form its own ideology of continuing the White struggle

          I didn’t pull Wikipedia’s tongue. I will only note that our liberals, hearing “philosopher Ilyin,” are salivating with emotion. Because Ilyin is a stubborn fascist, an admirer of Hitler. Just two quotes:
          Ilyin “National Socialism. New spirit. I." 1933:
          The “new spirit” of National Socialism, of course, also has positive definitions: patriotism, faith in the identity of the German people and the strength of the German genius, a sense of honor, readiness for sacrificial service (fascist “sacrificio”), discipline, social justice and non-class, fraternal national unity. This spirit constitutes, as it were, the substance of the entire movement; For every sincere National Socialist it burns in the heart, strains his muscles, resounds in his words and sparkles in his eyes.
          ...
          The spirit of National Socialism cannot be reduced to "racism". It does not come down to denial. He puts forward positive and creative goals. And these creative tasks face all nations. It is imperative for all of us to look for ways to resolve these problems...
          - 8 years later, the Nazis showed us their creativity in all its glory.
          Ilyin “ABOUT FASCISM” 1948:
          ...fascism was right because it proceeded from a healthy national-patriotic feeling, without which no people can either establish its existence or create its own culture...
          - this was written after the Nazis turned the European part of the USSR into ruins and destroyed 26 million of the population of Russia. Ilyin himself and the White movement had successfully defected to the CIA by 1948. What a pity that this Nazi was never hanged!
          Since the White movement acts in the interests of the Anglo-Saxons, the liquidation of the USSR did not change the attitude of the EMRO towards Russia. Statement of the EMRO “Don’t bury the white idea!” regarding the transfer of Denikin's ashes to Moscow. Kyiv Telegraph, October 2005:
          It is obvious that the anti-national regime existing in the Russian Federation, which is actively continuing the work of destroying the now last remnants of historical Russia, constantly needs ideological cover for its crimes - both past and present. At the same time, the heirs of Lenin’s gang need to neutralize in advance the potential danger of resuming the struggle against it under the banners and slogans of the Russian White Movement: today the White Idea is extremely relevant and potentially very dangerous for Putin and similar regimes on the territory of dismembered Russia! Symbolic reburial by the authorities of the Russian Federation of the ashes of the former Commander-in-Chief of the AFSR, Gen. Denikin and the greatest White ideologist Professor Ivan Aleksandrovich Ilyin are precisely intended to serve these dirty political goals of professional falsifiers from the Lubyanka.

          Given the lack of any noticeable popularity in the Russian Federation, the only way for the White movement to achieve its goal is to enter Moscow in the train of the heroic American army. Because they had previously flown over with Hitler. I understand that you need to return the estates and serfs. For me, a descendant of peasants, under the new government nothing awaits me except a noose.
          1. -1
            27 September 2023 11: 45
            Quote: Old electrician
            AUL (Alexander Yurievich)
            Today, 07: 43
            NEW
            +7
            Quote: Old electrician
            In turn, the ideology of the White movement is based on groveling before the USA, England and France.
            – does this surprise you?
            Let me start with the fact that I have immense respect for such Russian tsars and emperors as Ivan the Terrible, Peter I, Elizaveta Petrovna and Catherine the Great. They made Russia Great. It is noteworthy that for modern liberal historians the Greatness of Russia is like a bone in the throat, therefore, competing in lies, they never tire of throwing mud at them. Ivan the Terrible and Peter I especially suffer.
            With Peter III, the Romanov dynasty came to an end. The illegitimate Paul I was the first representative of the Holstein-Gottopian dynasty.
            The last representative of this dynasty on the Russian throne, Nicholas II, is an openly Russophobic squalor who sacrificed the Russian Empire for the sake of the interests of Russia’s worst enemies - England and France. Suffice it to say that Wilhelm II did not set himself the task of eliminating the autocracy. From the word in general. In 1915, the year of the Germans' general offensive against Russia, all Wilhelm wanted was to force the Tsar to a separate peace. Did not work out. In “gratitude” for this, the then pro-Western liberals, with the direct support and instructions of their “allies” - England and France, overthrew the Tsar Father and liquidated the Russian Empire.
            Who is now laying claim to the Russian throne?
            During the February Revolution, Grand Duke Kirill Vladimirovich (1876-1938) - the second son of Grand Duke Vladimir Alexandrovich, third son of Emperor Alexander II, cousin of Nicholas II - shone in public. After the abdication of the tsar, Kirill Vladimirovich stated that he personally and the military unit entrusted to him went over to the side of the State Duma and were glad of the revolution taking place. The red bow that Grand Duke Kirill proudly wore in 1917 did not prevent him from proclaiming himself Emperor of All Russia Kirill I in exile in 1924.
            His son Vladimir Kirillovich (1917-1992) received the title “Grand Duke” in 1924, and since 1938 has been a contender for the Russian throne and head of the Russian Imperial House. During the war years, the heir to the throne sported a German uniform and longed for Nazi Germany to bestow upon him the Russian throne on a piece of the huge cemetery into which Hitler wanted to turn Russia.
            At the end of the war, the heir joined the Russland division (also known as the Green Special Purpose Army and the 1st Russian National Army). The division was initially formed by the Abwehr in July 1941 under the name “Training Battalion”; it became the “Russland” division in 1943. Throughout the war it was commanded by Abwehr Sondeführer B.A. Smyslovsky. Smyslovsky is a Denikinite, a member of the ROVS, who joined the Abwehr back in the 20s. The purpose of the division is punitive operations against partisans and the population in the occupied territories. Since “Russland” is a division of the Abwehr, during punitive operations it widely practiced provocations in the form of false partisan detachments, etc. To achieve this, Rusland collaborated with the OUN-UPA, the Home Army, etc. bandits, executioners and punitive forces... Formally, the Abwehr is not yet the SS, but in terms of bloodiness it will give the SS a head start.
            Together with Russland, the heir darted from the Red Army to Liechtenstein, and from there he disappeared under the wing of dictator Franco in Spain.
            Already in 1952, this candidate for king climbed out of the trash heap and called on the West to war against the USSR. Of course, nuclear. It’s hard to imagine how many Russians this ghoul was going to kill in order to place the crown on his own head.
            Currently, his daughter Maria Vladimirovna Hohenzollern (her ex-husband is the great-grandson of Kaiser Wilhelm II) trades in orders of the Russian Empire and titles of nobility. All descendants of Kirill Vladimirovich were raised in the West in the spirit of fierce Russophobia. Are you ready to die in a nuclear war to restore the Holstein-Gottopian-Hohenzollerns to the throne? Personally, I don't.
            Now about the White movement. There is such an openly Russophobic Western project “Wikipedia”. Out of interest, I looked at the article about the EMRO.
            It is noteworthy that the article does not say anything about the cooperation of the EMRO with the Nazis. A quote revealing the basis of their ideology:
            The ideological position of the EMRO is most fully outlined in the works of its main ideologist, Professor Ivan Aleksandrovich Ilyin (1883-1954). The magazine “Russian Bell” he published (1927-1930) allowed the EMRO to form its own ideology of continuing the White struggle

            I didn’t pull Wikipedia’s tongue. I will only note that our liberals, hearing “philosopher Ilyin,” are salivating with emotion. Because Ilyin is a stubborn fascist, an admirer of Hitler. Just two quotes:
            Ilyin “National Socialism. New spirit. I." 1933:
            The “new spirit” of National Socialism, of course, also has positive definitions: patriotism, faith in the identity of the German people and the strength of the German genius, a sense of honor, readiness for sacrificial service (fascist “sacrificio”), discipline, social justice and non-class, fraternal national unity. This spirit constitutes, as it were, the substance of the entire movement; For every sincere National Socialist it burns in the heart, strains his muscles, resounds in his words and sparkles in his eyes.
            ...
            The spirit of National Socialism cannot be reduced to "racism". It does not come down to denial. He puts forward positive and creative goals. And these creative tasks face all nations. It is imperative for all of us to look for ways to resolve these problems...
            - 8 years later, the Nazis showed us their creativity in all its glory.
            Ilyin “ABOUT FASCISM” 1948:
            ...fascism was right because it proceeded from a healthy national-patriotic feeling, without which no people can either establish its existence or create its own culture...
            - this was written after the Nazis turned the European part of the USSR into ruins and destroyed 26 million of the population of Russia. Ilyin himself and the White movement had successfully defected to the CIA by 1948. What a pity that this Nazi was never hanged!
            Since the White movement acts in the interests of the Anglo-Saxons, the liquidation of the USSR did not change the attitude of the EMRO towards Russia. Statement of the EMRO “Don’t bury the white idea!” regarding the transfer of Denikin's ashes to Moscow. Kyiv Telegraph, October 2005:
            It is obvious that the anti-national regime existing in the Russian Federation, which is actively continuing the work of destroying the now last remnants of historical Russia, constantly needs ideological cover for its crimes - both past and present. At the same time, the heirs of Lenin’s gang need to neutralize in advance the potential danger of resuming the struggle against it under the banners and slogans of the Russian White Movement: today the White Idea is extremely relevant and potentially very dangerous for Putin and similar regimes on the territory of dismembered Russia! Symbolic reburial by the authorities of the Russian Federation of the ashes of the former Commander-in-Chief of the AFSR, Gen. Denikin and the greatest White ideologist Professor Ivan Aleksandrovich Ilyin are precisely intended to serve these dirty political goals of professional falsifiers from the Lubyanka.

            Given the lack of any noticeable popularity in the Russian Federation, the only way for the White movement to achieve its goal is to enter Moscow in the train of the heroic American army. Because they had previously flown over with Hitler. I understand that you need to return the estates and serfs. For me, a descendant of peasants, under the new government nothing awaits me except a noose.

            What kind of estates did ensigns and captains fight for? And you can still look at the estates - there are plenty of them in every city. And power lives in the same palaces where the kings lived
    2. -2
      10 September 2023 06: 27
      But if a new one comes, like Strelkov

      How is Streltsov (Girkin) different from the other dissatisfied Lyolik Navalny? But nothing. He is also offended that he was not allowed/excommunicated from the “feeding trough”.
      Engaging in demagoguery at rallies or on social networks is not a sign of the ability to lead a state. There are plenty of examples. Pashinyan, Saakashvili and Zelensky, although he just starred in a movie as a “good president”
      ps We also have a comedy film "President's Vacation" with Dmitry Grachev in the title role. belay
      1. +10
        10 September 2023 07: 34
        Quote: Amateur
        How is Streltsov (Girkin) different from the other dissatisfied Lyolik Navalny? But nothing.

        If such comparisons are made, then how is our main liberal different from them? You can say? Maybe because everyone is lying?

        But Strelkov at least hates someone’s oligarch friends, and he would also restore order at the front. He fought not badly. And I’m not inclined to draw red lines with difficult decisions.
        1. -9
          10 September 2023 12: 36
          Quote: Stas157
          He fought not badly.

          As soon as the tail was pressed under Slavyansk, he fled to Russia only his heels sparkled. lol
          1. +3
            10 September 2023 13: 35
            Quote: Boris55
            As soon as the tail was pressed under Slavyansk, he fled to Russia only his heels sparkled. lol
            Yes? Well, take the machine gun and show everyone how it was done.
            1. -4
              10 September 2023 16: 07
              Quote: bk0010
              Yes? Well, take the machine gun and show everyone how it was done.

              The fact is obvious. He is here, not there, and that says it all.

              ps
              They won’t even hire me to bring me cartridges... and in the future, people who have no other arguments will become personal. hi
              1. +3
                10 September 2023 23: 07
                Quote: Boris55
                .. and in the future - people who have no other arguments left become personal. hi
                Well, you switched to Strelkov’s personality...
                1. +1
                  11 September 2023 04: 57
                  Well, you switched to Strelkov’s personality...
                  - you will be surprised, but on the thread there is a condemnation of Strelkov as a contender for the post of savior of Russia. Analysis of the discussion shows that Strelkov will not be a savior and arguments are given why. You, as I understand it, believe that Strelkov, like Caesar’s wife, is above any suspicion. Moreover, you cannot clearly argue your point of view. I can give a vivid example of what happens when an infallible fighter against corruption and a national idol becomes president
                  1. +2
                    11 September 2023 09: 23
                    Quote: Old electrician
                    you will be surprised, but on the thread there is a condemnation of Strelkov as a contender for the post of savior of Russia.
                    I won’t be surprised.
                    Quote: Old electrician
                    Analysis of the discussion shows that Strelkov will not be a savior and arguments are given why.
                    Does not show.
                    Quote: Old electrician
                    You, as I understand it, believe that Strelkov, like Caesar’s wife, is above any suspicion.
                    I believe that Girkin managed to protect part of Donbass from the Ukrainian Armed Forces, and Boris55 did not even try.
                    Quote: Old electrician
                    Moreover, you cannot clearly argue your point of view.
                    Can. I’m just not sure that Girkin is the best candidate either. It's better than what we have now, but that's not enough.
                    1. +1
                      11 September 2023 15: 30
                      I believe that Girkin managed to protect part of Donbass from the Ukrainian Armed Forces, and Boris55 did not even try.
                      – i.e. Are we choosing Girkin as the savior of Russia according to the principle “To spite my grandmother I’ll freeze my ears off”?
                      1. All we know about Girkin’s activities in countering the ATO is a benign image created by the media. For me it's nothing at all. Let me give you this example. In the media General Lebed
                      personified a man with a “strong hand”, whom many Russian patriots were waiting for at the helm of the country.

                      How it all ended. During the first round of the 1996 presidential election, Lebed won 14,52% of the vote (10,7 million people) and took third place. Many assumed that Yeltsin would be in trouble in the second round. However, in the second round, Lebed called on those who voted for him to give their votes to Yeltsin, and then, having received a career sop from Yeltsin, he immortalized his name by signing the Khasavyurt Agreement. After some time, I had the opportunity to drink vodka with paratroopers who had previously served under the command of Lebed. Over a glass of soup, they clearly explained to me that everything that was written in the media about the savior of Russia was bullshit.
                      2. With Strelkov the situation is much more definite. Strelkov is a monarchist with the ideology of the White movement. The white movement is an ideology of rabid fascism and Russophobia. This ideology of admiration for Hitler and capitulation to the West. If God forbid Strelkov becomes president, then after Minsk 3 we will remember Khasavyurt with tenderness. The fact that he will supposedly speak out against oligarchs and corruption is typical populist blah blah blah.

                      In the photo are Strelkov’s associates and like-minded people. Such people will definitely defeat corruption in the Russian Federation, ruin the oligarchs and denazify Ukraine.
                      1. +1
                        11 September 2023 20: 58
                        Quote: Old electrician
                        I believe that Girkin managed to protect part of Donbass from the Ukrainian Armed Forces, and Boris55 did not even try.
                        – i.e. Are we choosing Girkin as the savior of Russia according to the principle “To spite my grandmother I’ll freeze my ears off”?
                        Where do these conclusions come from? Try reading what you yourself wrote above. It was exclusively about the fact that Boris55 said that Girkin fought poorly, despite the fact that he himself did not fight there at all.
                        By the way, “to spite grandma” is quite an option in the current situation, when the current government is pumping gas to Europe through Ukraine, which is killing our soldiers.
                        Quote: Old electrician
                        1. All we know about Girkin’s activities in countering the ATO is a benign image created by the media.
                        The DPR, where Girkin was, exists, but the Kharkov People's Republic, where there was no one like him, does not exist. And the Krivoy Rog People’s Republic didn’t work out either, they were crushed. What does Lebed have to do with this at all?
                      2. -1
                        12 September 2023 14: 53
                        The DPR, where Girkin was, is there, but the Kharkov People's Republic, where there was no one like him, is not...
                        - Look how serious everything is! Who would have thought!
                        You know, every evening I manually set the sun behind the horizon, and in the morning I roll it back out. Without me the whole world is screwed! My arguments to prove this point of view are exactly the same as yours. Those. none at all.
                        Official information.
                        On April 14, 2014, Alexander Turchinov signed a decree on the start of a special operation in the east of the country.
                        The first clashes with the Ukronazis began on April 20 near Slavyansk.
                        The first serious clash took place on May 2, 2014, near Slavyansk.
                        On May 5, 2014, regular artillery shelling of Slavyansk began. The fighting continued continuously until July 5, when Slavyansk was surrendered.
                        DPR commanders near Slavyansk from April 20 to July 5, 2014:
                        Vyacheslav Ponomarev
                        Vladimir Pavlenko
                        Igor Gunmen
                        Arsen Pavlov
                        Alexander Khodakovsky
                        Sergey Zhurikov
                        Alexander Mozhaev
                        On May 11, 2014, a referendum on self-determination of the Donetsk People's Republic took place.
                        On May 15, 2014, the Supreme Council of the DPR appointed Igor Strelkov as head of the Security Council and Minister of Defense of the DPR.
                        On August 14, 2014, the Council of Ministers of the Republic granted Igor Strelkov’s request to resign from the post of Minister of Defense and appointed acting. Minister of Defense Vladimir Kononov.
                        On August 15, 2014, the DPR announced that Strelkov was going on a month’s leave.
                        On September 11, Strelkov gave an interview in which he stated that he did not intend to return to Donbass.
                        Where are the signs that the DPR would not have happened without Strelkov? All that can be said with certainty is that Strelkov was one of those who stood at the beginning there. Everything else is covered in propaganda darkness.
                        The White movement, of which Strelkov is an admirer and participant, has been fighting against Russia and Russians for more than 100 years, relying on the active support of the most evil, misanthropic, Russophobic states. Such as Nazi Germany, USA, England, pre-war Poland, Romania, etc., etc. The collapse of the USSR did not change anything. For the White movement, even Putin is too red, and must be overthrown in the name of the West’s victory over Russia. From the open publications of the White movement it follows that the government in Russia should be as pro-Western as possible and as Russophobic as possible. And with such views, Strelkov will denazify Ukraine? - gee-gee-gee! The funny thing for me is that you point-blank don’t want to see Strelkov’s like-minded people zigging with Wehrmacht badges and swastikas.
                        What does Swan have to do with it?
                        - well, where do you understand this! You don’t want to see point-blank that Lebed and Strelkov are birds of a feather. And the results of their reign will be absolutely identical.
                      3. +1
                        12 September 2023 20: 26
                        Quote: Old electrician
                        - Look how serious everything is!
                        Yes, that's exactly how serious it is.
                        Quote: Old electrician
                        Where are the signs that the DPR would not have happened without Strelkov?
                        The cries of Bandera's followers are the main sign. They blamed Girkin most of all. They know better who beat them.
                        Quote: Old electrician
                        - well, where do you understand this! You don’t want to see point-blank that Lebed and Strelkov are birds of a feather. And the results of their reign will be absolutely identical.
                        Wow, Lebed was also a monarchist and admirer of the white movement?
                      4. +1
                        13 September 2023 14: 07
                        Quote: Old electrician
                        - well, where do you understand this! You don’t want to see point-blank that Lebed and Strelkov are birds of a feather. And the results of their reign will be absolutely identical.

                        Wow, Lebed was also a monarchist and admirer of the white movement?

                        - you frankly amused me. You have to read the text in such a way that you don’t see what is written and see something that is not there at all. Where did you notice that Swan is a monarchist? Or do you sculpt the first thing that comes to mind?
                        Once again, without ellipses, I explain what unites Lebed and Strelkov.
                        Lebed, using his official position, betrayed Russia and the Russians. Because the Khasavyurt agreement cannot be called anything other than betrayal.
                        Strelkov still has not betrayed Russia and the Russians only because he does not have the same power that Lebed had. Selling Russia is the whole essence of monarchism. Thank God that Strelkov will not have power. The maximum that Strelkov can achieve is to join the chorus of emigrants led by Khodorkovsky, Kasparov, etc.
                        Quote: Old electrician
                        Where are the signs that the DPR would not have happened without Strelkov?

                        The cries of Bandera's followers are the main sign. They blamed Girkin most of all. They know better who beat them.

                        - I especially liked the phrase “They know better who beat them” - gee-gee-gee!
                        It has long been known that Victory has 100 fathers, and Defeat is always an orphan. This is exactly the case here. I can’t imagine an option where the Ukronazis would suddenly begin to repent - we, the whole bunch, didn’t slaughter Russians in the DPR because we don’t have brains and everything that comes with them. In such cases, it is customary to look for a scapegoat. “The Strelkov scumbag,” who, according to the Ukronazis, even shot down a Malaysian Boeing along with its children, is ideal for this position. A supervillain, like in Hollywood super blockbusters, is an ideal excuse for one’s own stupidity.
                        According to the ATO chronicle, after the fall of Slavyansk on July 5, 2014, and a short operational pause, on August 18, 2014, the armed forces of the DPR began an attack on Ilovaisk. As a result, by September 3, 2014, the group of Ukrainian forces near Ilovaisk was eliminated. The Ukrainian media called the battles near Ilovaisk “the worst” and “the most brutal defeat of Ukrainian forces during the entire period of military operations in the ATO zone.” From the DPR side, the operation was led by:
                        - Alexander Zakharchenko
                        - Alexander Khodakovsky
                        - Arseny Pavlov
                        - Mikhail Tolstykh
                        And what does this have to do with the Great and Terrible shooter of Malaysian Boeings, together with the children of Strelkov, who resigned on August 14 and left the DPR on August 15?
                        Continuing the topic. The funny thing is that the reasons for the defeat at Ilovaisk are kept secret by the top leadership of Ukraine. Therefore, all the media can do is tell tales about Strelkov.
                      5. 0
                        13 September 2023 21: 44
                        Quote: Old electrician
                        You have to read the text in such a way that you don’t see what is written and see what is not there at all. Where did you notice that Swan is a monarchist?
                        Are these your words?
                        Quote: Old electrician
                        Swan and Strelkov are birds of a feather

                        Then where does the question come from?
                        Quote: Old electrician
                        Strelkov still has not betrayed Russia and the Russians only because he does not have the same power that Lebed had.
                        Will there be evidence?
                        Quote: Old electrician
                        Selling Russia is the whole essence of monarchism.
                        What, Ivan the Terrible also sold Russia? And Peter 4?
                      6. -1
                        15 September 2023 16: 02
                        Quote: Old electrician
                        Strelkov still has not betrayed Russia and the Russians only because he does not have the same power that Lebed had. ...

                        Will there be evidence?

                        Quote: Old electrician
                        Selling Russia is the whole essence of monarchism.

                        What, Ivan the Terrible also sold Russia? And Peter 4?

                        You, as always, confuse concepts such as sweets and diarrhea. What do Ivan the Terrible and Peter I have to do with the monarchists of 2023 and vice versa? The monarchists of 2023 wanted to give a damn about both. Their idol is not Ivan the Terrible or Peter I at all; they deify Nick 2 of Holstein-Gottorp. This is truly a traitor to the Russian Empire and the peoples inhabiting it.
                        The relationship between the Second Reich and the Russian Empire did not have the character of such a tough ideological confrontation as between the Third Reich and the USSR. Therefore, in 1905, Nicholas II and Wilhelm II concluded the Bjork Treaty of Union, directed against the centuries-old enemy of Russia - England. If this agreement had been respected, then most likely Russia would not have gotten involved in the First World War with such terrible losses for itself, but would have limited itself to a few skirmishes at sea, and giggled maliciously and would have watched the world carnage from the sidelines, supplying goods to Germany for its own benefit. However, England and France needed free Russian cannon fodder. Therefore, the then fifth column of the Russian Empire, purchased on the vine by its worst enemies, forced Nick 2 to block this agreement. War between Germany and Russia became inevitable.
                        From the very first days of the First World War, the “allies” spoiled Russia wherever and whenever they could. This gave Russia a legal reason to break all alliance treaties. Unlike Hitler, all Wilhelm II wanted from Nick 2 in 1915 was the conclusion of a separate peace. Accordingly, all that was required of Nick 2 in 1915 was to put on public display the legitimate claims against the so-called “allies”, to hang on the gates of the English embassy the fierce Russophobe English Ambassador Bukonen, and with him all the representatives of the fifth column with whom he communicated and kissed Wilhelm II in a friendly manner. Provided that the Russian people did not understand at all why Russia got involved in this massacre, Nick 2 would have become a people's idol. Alas and ah! Instead, Nick 2 madly continued to drive Russian men to slaughter with one rifle between five of them for the sake of the interests of Russia’s original enemies, France and England.
                        In turn, the “allies” thanked the tsar, not failing to take advantage of the weakness of the Russian monarchy. From the memoirs of the English Ambassador to Russia Buchanan:
                        ... The palace coup was discussed openly, and at dinner at the embassy one of my Russian friends, who held a high position in the government, informed me that the only question was whether both the emperor and the empress would be killed, or only the last ...
                        . So Nick 2 betrayed not only Russia, but also his family. Since the pro-English Urals Council was counting on the fact that the execution in the basement of Ipatiev’s house would encourage Wilhelm II to break the Brest-Litovsk Treaty.
                        Today's contender for the Russian throne, for whom Strelkov and other Russian monarchists are advocating, is Georgy Romanov - His Imperial Highness the Sovereign Heir Tsarevich. On April 9, 1998, during a trip to Jerusalem, George was solemnly crowned in the Throne Hall of the Patriarchal Residence.
                        Georgy Romanov was born in Madrid and spent almost his entire adult life in Europe. Graduated from Oxford, worked in the European Parliament and the European Atomic Energy Agency. Then Georgy Mikhailovich began cooperation with the Russian company Norilsk Nickel, taking the post of adviser to the general director, and for some time headed a subsidiary in Europe. Today, the heir to the royal Romanov family heads the board of directors of Foodbank Rus (Russian food bank). Before receiving Russian citizenship in 1992, according to Spanish and French documents, Georgy Romanov was listed as George of Prussia, since his father was Prince Franz Wilhelm of Prussia, the great-grandson of Wilhelm II. His paternal grandfather, Prince Karl of Prussia, served as an officer in the Wehrmacht in a tank division during World War II. For special distinctions he was awarded the Iron Cross. And this is the future Russian Tsar-Emperor?!!! Zelensky in the role of the Russian Tsar will be less destructive for Russia than Yegorka Romanov.
                        It is obvious that in the all-Russian elections Gosha Romanov would have gained zero point one percent. Therefore, monarchists are betting on a coup d'etat, since even Putin is too red for them. It is equally obvious that the monarchists cannot easily pull off a coup. Their only hope is that the West will help us, and the first step for this is to blow through the Northern Military District on Ukraine’s terms.
                        On July 21, ex-Minister of Defense of the DPR Strelkov was detained by FSB officers. A case was opened against him under Article 280 (“Public calls for extremist activities”) of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. What else is this if not the embodiment of the monarchists’ plan in practice? Convince me that this is not a fact of betrayal that has already occurred. Just don’t need any fairy tales about his innocence.
                      7. 0
                        15 September 2023 19: 41
                        Quote: Old electrician
                        What else is this if not the embodiment of the monarchists’ plan in practice?
                        This is an attempt to silence a popular person who actively criticizes the mistakes and crimes of current politicians.
                        Quote: Old electrician
                        Convince me that this is not a fact of betrayal that has already occurred.
                        Just because he was arrested does not mean he was arrested for the crime. Who and how did he betray?
                        Quote: Old electrician
                        Just don’t need any fairy tales about his innocence.
                        Fairy tales? What, he was convicted? Did you provide evidence? Or, as usual, “blah blah blah, linguistic expert report, blah blah blah”? No, you must provide evidence of his guilt; the presumption of innocence has not yet been canceled. Just not reasoning, but evidence.
                      8. -1
                        27 September 2023 19: 55
                        Quote: Old electrician
                        Lebed, using his official position, betrayed Russia and the Russians. Because the Khasavyurt agreement cannot be called anything other than betrayal

                        Everything is correct, except that Lebed did not sign on his own initiative. Who would have allowed him to sign something without government approval? Further, was it possible at that time to conquer Chechnya? The losses there were catastrophic. All history shows that it is impossible to capture power in a country with a hostile population. When there are peaceful dekhans on the streets during the day, and at night they turn into Mujahideen. There can only be genocide or resettlement, as under Stalin. And who will allow you genocide in the 21st century?
                        Quote: Old electrician
                        On August 18, 2014, the DPR armed forces launched an attack on Ilovaisk. As a result, by September 3, 2014, the group of Ukrainian forces near Ilovaisk was eliminated

                        It was specifically Russian troops who took part there, and not DPR partisans
          2. -1
            27 September 2023 11: 47
            Quote: Boris55
            Quote: Stas157
            He fought not badly.

            As soon as the tail was pressed under Slavyansk, he fled to Russia only his heels sparkled. lol

            Boris, you're wrong
    3. 0
      12 September 2023 00: 10
      Like in the good old days, a dollar is 60 kopecks, but they don’t sell it to citizens, right? :-) Yes, they won’t really need it :-)
  4. +2
    10 September 2023 06: 30
    It is absolutely incomprehensible why the Central Bank and the Ministry of Finance are not able to do what they want, simultaneously, without confusing the public and without helping speculative games on the exchange rates?

    What is incomprehensible here...playing on the difference in exchange rates between currencies and the ruble...usual speculation as always.
    1. +5
      10 September 2023 07: 11
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      usual speculation as always.

      And speculation is legalized by the market. wink Who hasn't had enough of capitalism yet, would you like some more? laughing
  5. +7
    10 September 2023 06: 33
    niponil... siluminov and nae*lina have not been shot yet?
    1. +7
      10 September 2023 06: 39
      If not them, then who? There are no more financial economists in the country.
  6. +2
    10 September 2023 06: 36
    “despite the rise in oil prices, the ruble may continue to decline due to the imbalance between supply and demand” And the increase in the volume of currency purchases by the Ministry of Finance is another factor not in favor of the growth of the ruble exchange rate.
    And what proposals will there be? In favor of the growth of the ruble exchange rate?
    "- Do you want me to take Petrovka by storm? They have enough cameras there for everyone!” (c) smile
  7. -11
    10 September 2023 06: 54
    Those who are heading towards the financial bloc of the government, take the trouble to read the list of sanctions imposed against the Russian Federation and the costs of their own. The fact that the dollar does not cost 200 is largely their merit, and there is a currency component in almost every product (at the same time, I estimate inflation at 10-15%). If you don’t have time to analyze the financial situation, don’t waste time writing critical opinions; in Russia, the favorite pastime is to criticize what you don’t understand
    1. +9
      10 September 2023 08: 01
      Quote: Igor1915
      The fact that a dollar is not worth 200 is largely due to them

      And the fact that the dollar is already 100 (almost) is definitely their merit! This is what they write about in the article. Why the hell were the currency restrictions lifted? Why, instead of a highly liquid convertible currency, is rubbish bought in something like the yuan? To lose money? Well, that's what they do all the time.

      I am not against (only for) the sale of the hated dollar. But I am against buying (replacement, sew on soap) the Chinese yuan, which is subject to devaluation against this dollar. This means we are simply doomed to losses. And on the collapse of the wooden course.
      1. +3
        10 September 2023 09: 59
        If you don’t know, buying the yuan is a 100% political decision - to put pressure on the USA, the Central Bank here is carrying out someone else’s will
      2. +7
        10 September 2023 10: 46
        Yeah, they collected rupees, but the Indians don’t want to sell anything for rupees. Give them dollars. The same thing will probably happen with yuan.
        1. +2
          10 September 2023 12: 08
          Yeah, they collected rupees, but the Indians don’t want to sell anything for rupees. Give them dollars. The same thing will probably happen with yuan.

          Why don't they want it, please take it. Just buy there for 30 billion that are stuck in their banks (in dollars, of course).
          Although... I'll try to guess... soon, on all screens in the country! laughing

          1. +1
            10 September 2023 13: 37
            Quote: Arzt
            Just buy there for 30 billion that are stuck in their banks (in dollars, of course).
            Coffee, pharma, electronics.
        2. +1
          10 September 2023 13: 57
          Quote: parusnik
          Indians don’t want to sell anything for rupees. Give me dollars.

          So the rupee is not in use. And the yuan is trading at the very least, although it is still far from the leaders...
          percentage of participation as one of the parties to a trading pair in 2022:
          US dollar - 88%,
          euro - 32%,
          pound sterling - 17%,
          yen - 13%,
          Yuan - 7%.
      3. -1
        27 September 2023 11: 48
        Quote: Stas157
        Quote: Igor1915
        The fact that a dollar is not worth 200 is largely due to them

        And the fact that the dollar is already 100 (almost) is definitely their merit! This is what they write about in the article. Why the hell were the currency restrictions lifted? Why, instead of a highly liquid convertible currency, is rubbish bought in something like the yuan? To lose money? Well, that's what they do all the time.

        I am not against (only for) the sale of the hated dollar. But I am against buying (replacement, sew on soap) the Chinese yuan, which is subject to devaluation against this dollar. This means we are simply doomed to losses. And on the collapse of the wooden course.

        Yuan is nothing, but no one needs rupees
    2. +8
      10 September 2023 08: 15
      Quote: Igor1915
      The fact that a dollar is not worth 200 is largely due to them

      And the 300 billion dollars left in foreign banks, whose merit?
      1. +9
        10 September 2023 08: 20
        Quote: Luminman
        And the 300 billion dollars left in foreign banks, whose merit?

        They would definitely not interfere now to maintain the exchange rate of the ruble and replenish the heavily deficient budget.

        How many aircraft carriers will this be? About 30? And they said that there wasn’t enough for one!
        1. +3
          10 September 2023 09: 13
          Quote: Stas157
          How many aircraft carriers will this be? About 30? And they said that there wasn’t enough for one!

          The problem with aircraft carriers is not so much financing as it is the implementation of the project. There is so much that needs to be done there, which raises great doubts in the current realities...
      2. +4
        10 September 2023 10: 01
        The placement is absolutely standard, before yours you think the GDP was not aware?????? The calculation was for quick completion + the West will not steal + arrest of Western assets in the Russian Federation for this amount
        1. -1
          27 September 2023 11: 52
          Quote: Igor1915
          The placement is absolutely standard, before yours you think the GDP was not aware?????? The calculation was for quick completion + the West will not steal + arrest of Western assets in the Russian Federation for this amount

          What Western assets were in Russia? What money was in the basements of the Central Bank? We don’t have any Western assets that can be frozen
    3. +10
      10 September 2023 08: 48
      If you don’t have time to analyze the financial situation, don’t waste time writing critical opinions.


      Dear Igor.
      I understand that you are well versed in the Russian financial situation.

      1st question.
      Please explain why Europe imposes sanctions on us (Russia is experiencing certain difficulties because of this), and we do not create similar problems in response?
      "...in response to endless packages of economic sanctions from the West, it was necessary to introduce an embargo on supplies of what is really sensitive for Western countries....
      ...to hit the economic sore spots of the West, showing that behaving this way towards Russia is “unacceptable, painful and expensive.”
      “At the same time, the situation has not only an economic aspect, but also a psychological one. When it is necessary to mobilize the best qualities of the Russian person, in particular, self-sacrifice, dedication, readiness to give his life for the Motherland, when the question of the existence of Russia is at stake, at this moment it is very difficult or impossible to explain to the same soldiers why gas continues to flow through the territory of Ukraine. And he goes into the territory of countries that supply weapons to the enemy. In my opinion, this is wrong,” concluded Starikov. " https://svpressa.ru/economy/news/380913/?itg=1

      2nd question. About money for SVO
      What was the President guided by when he signed this Decree?
      "...President Vladimir Putin has relaxed currency control requirements for exporters of gold, metals and grain. From July 1, 2021, they may not return foreign currency earnings to accounts in Russian banks. In 2020, the government allowed the export of all mined gold from Russia. As a result, its exports increased by 160%. In turn, the sale of ferrous metals accounts for 10,5% of all Russian export revenues, and grain exports reach $8 billion per year....
      Thus, Putin freed $160 billion of Russian exports from foreign exchange controls. ... These goods bring in half of export earnings. According to analysts, this could deprive the ruble of stability in crisis situations, since half of the foreign exchange earnings potentially will not be returned to the country."
      https://kapital-rus.ru/articles/article/putin_razreshil_ne_vozvraschat_v_rossiu_dengi_ot_prodaji_zolota_metallov_i_/

      P.S. Please pay special attention to the last sentence: “... may deprive the ruble of its stability...”
      1. +5
        10 September 2023 09: 58
        Answer to the 1st question: can we? In the sense that are the measures we have taken really capable of hitting the EU? Yes, they still buy our resources, but whether we can do it without these funds is already a question.
        For example, our glasses seem to be used for the Apple Watch, if we show the muzzle, will our manufacturer suffer much?
        Alas, now looking for ways to annoy someone can be fraught with danger for us too

        Regarding the second question, unfortunately, I can’t answer anything - I simply don’t know the goals and reasons for such steps - maybe we are really strongly connected with another world and then the NWO looks almost like an adventure
        1. +4
          10 September 2023 11: 07
          Alas, now looking for ways to annoy someone can be fraught with danger for us too
          Yes, let it not be annoying, at least have more independence. What has been done in 2014? Nothing. Well, in 2022 everything should burn and melt. But again, nothing. Everything they do is done only because they are being squeezed. It would be a great pleasure not to introduce the MIR card, but the visa and master card were disabled. And there are dozens of such examples when the forced is presented as a merit.
          1. +1
            10 September 2023 13: 40
            I'm afraid I should have thought about all this much earlier. I completely agree with your theses, but in the current conditions I don’t know what’s better and how it will affect all of us. Perhaps we are really very tied up and by trying to kick foreigners out, we will end up dying ourselves (I’m talking here not only about the West, but also about the East, in particular about China, since it’s bad to depend on it)

            By the way, it’s interesting about MIR - it seems to me that they introduced it with pleasure, like the digital ruble now, but I could be wrong
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        3. 0
          10 September 2023 16: 59
          but whether we can do without these funds is already a question.


          Dear Igor.
          You will be able to say exactly what percentage of the proceeds will return to Russia from the sale.
          Even when Simchera was alive, he said: Russian figures for the sale of petroleum products from Rosstat are two times less than the data received from European buyers.
          1. 0
            10 September 2023 18: 24
            Neither I nor 99% of Russians can name the exact amount, each exporting company has an individual agreement on how much it transfers to the budget, we still have very gray reporting, which also slowed down Western investment (but in the current situation this turned out to be beneficial )
            1. 0
              10 September 2023 20: 25
              ...we still have very gray reporting...


              Respected.
              Do you think there is gray reporting at the front line of the SVO?
              1. 0
                11 September 2023 09: 53
                I don’t quite understand how this question relates to the financial topic of the article, I really hope that in the majority of military finances go to war and not into someone’s pocket, although I understand that all people only live once.
      2. +4
        10 September 2023 10: 12
        Our budget constantly balances between politics and finance. We cannot introduce sanctions against the West (which we could have already introduced) for two reasons - if we don’t sell them anything, how will all the imports be bought???? In addition to food and medicine (partially), do you know a lot of non-imported goods? When Iran, Armenia, Kazakhstan supply us with sanctioned goods, we pay them $$. Plus, I think by cutting off what the West needs, we will increase the flow of weapons in Ukraine. As far as I know, the GDP gave instructions - do whatever you want, as long as the currency goes to the Russian Federation - its outflow over the past year was more than 300 billion, any other country would be in great depression
      3. 0
        10 September 2023 10: 15
        Ps I think Mishustin is the best prime minister in the entire modern history of Russia.
        1. 0
          10 September 2023 20: 30
          Quote: Igor1915
          Ps I think Mishustin is the best prime minister in the entire modern history of Russia.

          I agree with you here; the previous Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev cannot be compared to him. Someone like Mishustin should have been nominated as prime minister 10 years earlier.
  8. 0
    10 September 2023 06: 58
    Quote: parusnik
    And what proposals will there be? In favor of the growth of the ruble exchange rate?

    And Slutsky proposed freezing gasoline prices...like setting price limits smile famous trick.
    How can bees freeze honey?
    1. +1
      10 September 2023 15: 12
      And Slutsky proposed freezing gasoline prices...


      Which is easy to explain.
      He, the bastard, himself will not stand in lines at gas stations (for gasoline at fixed prices), his personal car will be refueled at a special gas station.
    2. 0
      10 September 2023 18: 30
      According to the current situation, the ruble should not grow as a matter of principle. There have been quite extensive military operations in the country for 1.5 years, and with so many restrictions there can be no growth. The only way to ensure a return to 80 rubles per $ and below is a significant increase in the price of export goods, or a total refusal of the population to purchase imported goods.
  9. +5
    10 September 2023 07: 08
    However, it worked out again: the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, by raising the key rate, also increased the attractiveness of ruble deposits and instruments.

    A normal consequence of this was an increase in demand for rubles and a strengthening, albeit small, of the national currency.

    You don’t have to read any further than this - the authors admitted to a complete misunderstanding of causes and consequences.
  10. +2
    10 September 2023 07: 23
    Where did you even see that the money simply wouldn’t be handed over? Since August, the Central Bank has been bringing to the market only the difference between what they were going to sell and what the Ministry of Finance was going to buy, the exchange rate jumped, the Central Bank begins to pour more foreign currency into the market to stabilize. It has been said more than once that the trade balance is uneven, which is why the exchange rate is growing; the rate increase has little to do with this, it has more to do with rising inflation. And keep the old mantras that this is all because of the independence of the Central Bank and look at Turkey, you can talk as much as you like about its greatness, but Erdogan with his new financial theories brought down the lira even without a war.
    1. -1
      10 September 2023 08: 32
      Quote from realing
      look at Turkey, you can talk as much as you like about its greatness, but Erdogan, with his new financial theories, brought down the lira without a war.

      I absolutely agree with you. The Turks are having a hard time. Prices for everything are insane. Red meat from 1000 rubles (translated into rubles). A bottle of cheap wine for 1000 rubles. Vodka is even more expensive. Gasoline - more than a hundred. Cucumbers in the southern country in August for 100 rubles, this is when we had 60 rubles in the northern one! Despite the fact that salaries in Turkey are approximately the same as ours.
      1. +1
        11 September 2023 09: 57
        Not good, but for me the numbers are good; of all the two-faced countries, no one can surpass the Turks. If everything matches, it’s clear why Erdogan (it’s time to sunbathe on the beach) runs here and there - it needs to be straightened out somehow.
  11. +12
    10 September 2023 07: 39
    Otherwise, the Central Bank sells something to someone, and “someone here and there sometimes,” as in the song, receives a commission.

    This all happens only because more than three hundred commercial “common funds” are legally engaged in currency speculation, which waste foreign exchange earnings by raising domestic prices and receiving additional ruble funds.
    That is why our economy (which still remains and which they are trying to create) does not bring any benefit to the country. That is why the available currency is spent on all sorts of crap that can be successfully done at home for rubles. That is why 300 tons of gold mined in 2022 could not find a buyer (it is impossible to speculate in bullion - the price for it is set elsewhere)...
    * * *
    What a good economy the Mother Russia has built. And most importantly, no one can really explain anything, because this is akin to the testimony that a detained criminal must give to himself...
  12. -2
    10 September 2023 08: 56
    Nabiulina and the company are higher than the government and the president
  13. +1
    10 September 2023 09: 25
    Isn't the Central Bank of the Russian Federation a foreign agent? Like the entire native liberal community?
  14. 0
    10 September 2023 09: 56
    Some of the most fierce enemies of Russia and its people are these two individuals - Nabiullina and Siluanov. It is absolutely not clear why they are not yet under investigation, the facts of treason and betrayal there are ten for life. Well, it’s okay, their time will come
  15. +1
    10 September 2023 12: 00
    Of course, I’m not an economist, but at my philistine level I understand that if the economic bloc of the government is transferred from the rank of civil servants to the status of persons under investigation and forced into prison for at least six months, as part of some kind of preliminary investigation into financial speculation and currency leakages, then this will cost the state treasury much less than their “struggle” to “strengthen” the ruble. winked
    PS -And yet, as a concern for their future, you can organize free courses for them to become a plumber, in which a 5th category plumber, conventionally Petrovich, will show them in practice how to eliminate leaks and reduce resource losses.
  16. 0
    10 September 2023 12: 49
    Strange "antics" of the Bank of Russia and even stranger "movements" of the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation... Logically, the Ministry of Finance determines the entire financial policy of the state based on the economic feasibility and plans of the State, and the Central Bank is an instrument in the hands of the Ministry of Finance... In Russia "not "was set" from the very beginning, due to the coming to power of outright scammers, economic scoundrels and a crowd of "C" students in life, of various directions.... The "operation of mastering" the state economy by a narrow circle of limited persons began... Central Bank, "on the quiet "and with the tacit consent of the "powers that be" came out of the control of the state, turning into a private "sinecure" for a limited circle of people and with overseas management... Which, it seems, is now... True, in the current conditions he ( The Central Bank) has to act more carefully, with an eye on the Prosecutor's Office and the Investigative Committee, although, in the current military situation, it turns out to be quite pro-IMF-FRS "correct" actions.... The Ministry of Finance is silent, the people are in prostration, domestic business is "scratching" in the back of the head"... Apparently the current composition of the "power holders" are satisfied with this state of affairs in the financial bloc, because there is such an opportunity to "make money" on speculative transactions with currency.... Whatever you say, the capitalist essence (profit at any cost), has already been “absorbed” into the consciousness of the masses... So waiting for the stabilization of the domestic financial market and a real breakthrough in the economy without nationalizing the Central Bank and subordinating it (the Central Bank) to the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation is a fool’s errand and a waste of time....
    1. 0
      10 September 2023 15: 05
      Logically, the Ministry of Finance determines the entire financial policy of the state based on the economic feasibility and plans of the State, and the Central Bank is an instrument in the hands of the Ministry of Finance...


      In the USSR, the State Bank of the USSR was an independent institution and was in no way subordinate to the Ministry of Finance, but only directly to the Council of Ministers of the USSR.

      The Central Bank, “on the sly” and with the tacit consent of “the powers that be,” left the control of the state


      How did he get out?
      The head of the Central Bank is appointed exclusively by the President of the Russian Federation and no one else. All members of the Central Bank board too. Only the President of the Russian Federation can remove the head and any member of the board.

      You are now proposing to remove the Central Bank from the direct subordination of the president and transfer it to the Ministry of Finance.
      So you trust Siluanov more than Putin?
  17. +1
    10 September 2023 13: 36
    Quote: Doccor18
    Quote from AUL
    Quote: Old electrician
    In turn, the ideology of the White movement is based on groveling before the USA, England and France.

    Well, a very controversial statement! Can you somehow justify it (without demagoguery and slogans)?

    Yes, there was no idea, “ideology of the white movement,” a hodgepodge of Social Revolutionaries to monarchists, half of whom were populists, and half of whom fought only for their own narrow goals. That is why the good support for the white movement at the initial stage collapsed so quickly and ingloriously. No idea - no victory, which means no future. And so it happened.

    United and indivisible Russia, why not an idea? Another thing is that ideas do not exist on their own, they must be positively perceived in society, and at that time the ideas of the Bolsheviks - rob the loot, land for the peasants, factories for the workers - found wider support + the same Kolchak was an unsuccessful supreme ruler because he did not have the necessary ruler's political flexibility. As a result, the Finns, Balts and Poles, who no longer saw themselves as part of Russia, withdrew from supporting the white movement, although they offered help in exchange for guarantees of independence.
  18. +2
    10 September 2023 14: 01
    Quote: AA17
    If you don’t have time to analyze the financial situation, don’t waste time writing critical opinions.


    Dear Igor.
    I understand that you are well versed in the Russian financial situation.

    1st question.
    Please explain why Europe imposes sanctions on us (Russia is experiencing certain difficulties because of this), and we do not create similar problems in response?
    "...in response to endless packages of economic sanctions from the West, it was necessary to introduce an embargo on supplies of what is really sensitive for Western countries....
    ...to hit the economic sore spots of the West, showing that behaving this way towards Russia is “unacceptable, painful and expensive.”
    “At the same time, the situation has not only an economic aspect, but also a psychological one. When it is necessary to mobilize the best qualities of the Russian person, in particular, self-sacrifice, dedication, readiness to give his life for the Motherland, when the question of the existence of Russia is at stake, at this moment it is very difficult or impossible to explain to the same soldiers why gas continues to flow through the territory of Ukraine. And he goes into the territory of countries that supply weapons to the enemy. In my opinion, this is wrong,” concluded Starikov. " https://svpressa.ru/economy/news/380913/?itg=1

    2nd question. About money for SVO
    What was the President guided by when he signed this Decree?
    "...President Vladimir Putin has relaxed currency control requirements for exporters of gold, metals and grain. From July 1, 2021, they may not return foreign currency earnings to accounts in Russian banks. In 2020, the government allowed the export of all mined gold from Russia. As a result, its exports increased by 160%. In turn, the sale of ferrous metals accounts for 10,5% of all Russian export revenues, and grain exports reach $8 billion per year....
    Thus, Putin freed $160 billion of Russian exports from foreign exchange controls. ... These goods bring in half of export earnings. According to analysts, this could deprive the ruble of stability in crisis situations, since half of the foreign exchange earnings potentially will not be returned to the country."
    https://kapital-rus.ru/articles/article/putin_razreshil_ne_vozvraschat_v_rossiu_dengi_ot_prodaji_zolota_metallov_i_/

    P.S. Please pay special attention to the last sentence: “... may deprive the ruble of its stability...”

    The old people are pseudo-patriotic babbles who make money from PR, the words of which have little correlation with reality. Take away export income and no one will go to Starikov’s lectures; there will be no money for food, because even domestic goods have a large share of the imported component, and for part of the imports now you have to pay at exorbitant prices in foreign currency, that is, dollars and euros, and not in gas rubles. And you need to get currency from somewhere.
  19. 0
    10 September 2023 16: 56
    Five cents on the general topic.

    - The story with the “stuck rupees” is very reminiscent of a veiled withdrawal of capital. However, there is another interesting layer there, regarding why to invest in the Indian economy and right now.

    - Nabiullina and Siluanov are two lightning rods. Therefore, this criticism addressed to them should be perceived in the style of an ancient joke about freedom of speech in the USSR

    When, it seems, Simonov was asked that there was no freedom of speech in the USSR, he asked how it was not. The correspondent replied that in the USA anyone can come out and criticize the American president. In response, Simonov said that in the USSR, too, any citizen can criticize the American president.

    So it is here - anyone can criticize Nabiullina and Siluanov, maybe they are also given milk from the budget for this. Good, New Zealand.
  20. 0
    10 September 2023 17: 24
    Unfortunately, we can’t count on a serious increase in oil prices; besides, our own people are playing against the ruble, making excess profits from selling the currency at an inflated rate.

    Is it logical?
    Their own people are playing against the ruble and selling currency at an inflated rate, which is why the currency is becoming more expensive. And if they don’t sell their own currency, will the dollar be at 30 and the euro at 34?

    The Bank of Russia is now faced with the need to sell currency for another reason - it will have to pay off the issue of Eurobonds on September 16th.

    It turns out that everyone is playing against the ruble by selling currency. Both Ours and the Central Bank. Who then buys this expensive currency? Who is this someone who rented a ruble printing press???
  21. 0
    10 September 2023 17: 30
    The Ministry of Finance buys foreign currency according to the rule,” but are commissions also due to someone somewhere and for something? This is how we live, some don’t buy, but for now, and some don’t sell, and also for now.

    And someone on VO regularly writes about the economy, the exchange rate set by the Central Bank, comments on the proposed actions of the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation, and remains on the list of read authors with a large number of comments.
  22. +1
    11 September 2023 14: 48
    All this suggests that “ours” are governed according to the demobilization principle: “the day has passed and x..... with it.”
  23. +2
    11 September 2023 20: 16
    Izaura the mini-girl is rushing around the garden. Sorry for the rudeness, but this is exactly what the Brownian throwing of comprador power looks like in a crisis situation. Not a single person in the cabinet of ministers or the presidential administration imagined the consequences of the mess they had made. And God bless him, if at some point they stood up and honestly admitted that they had messed up and on their knees asked the PEOPLE to forgive, understand and help! But no, they have everything according to plan, everything is under control and their finger on the pulse. The people would understand and forgive and help, as they always did, but today the level of trust in these scoundrels is completely inflated by all sorts of VTsIOM and Levada. A low bow to our Soviet elders, thanks to whose galoshes we are pulling out the existing heap of problems. But galoshes don’t last forever......
  24. 0
    11 September 2023 21: 35
    With such “friends”, there is no need for enemies!
  25. +1
    12 September 2023 06: 55
    And I have long said to send Nabiullina and co. to the uranium mines.....
  26. -1
    12 September 2023 08: 29
    When the Central Bank becomes part of our economy and is subordinate to the government (the president, it doesn’t matter), then we should expect a well-thought-out industrial policy. In the meantime, these are the remnants of liberal American governance from the 90s.
  27. 0
    15 September 2023 16: 55
    It is absolutely incomprehensible why the Central Bank and the Ministry of Finance are not able to do what they want, simultaneously, without confusing the public and without helping speculative games on the exchange rates?

    The horse understands that too...
    And for those who don’t understand, even the clinic won’t help...