Ukrainian mobile operator during a charity event called the numbers of losses of the army of Ukraine

Kyivstar, the largest telecoms operator in Ukraine, is holding a remarkable charity event in which it encourages its subscribers to send a special message. Company managers urge Ukrainians to send the word "Thank you" to the number that previously belonged to a Ukrainian soldier. We are talking about the cell phone numbers of servicemen who have died by now.

At the same time, the action states that “400 heroes will never be able to answer a call and a message,” and it is added that they “lay down their lives for Ukraine.”

Such messages from the mobile operator of Ukraine were published in the video, which managed to draw attention to the network. Kyivstar deleted the video, but the information from it managed to disperse over the network. Volodymyr Rogov, chairman of the “Together with Russia” movement from the Zaporozhye region, also drew attention to the “charity action”.

He points out that in this way the Ukrainian operator indicated the real irretrievable losses of the Ukrainian army since the beginning of the Russian special operation. At the same time, Rogov asks the question:

Are these the general losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine or losses only among the military personnel who were Kyivstar subscribers?

Officially, the Ukrainian authorities do not name the number of casualties, saying that this refers to information that can be published only after the end of hostilities.

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[Orange Bigg]

Company managers urge Ukrainians to send the word "Thank you" to the number that previously belonged to a Ukrainian soldier. We are talking about the cell phone numbers of servicemen who have died by now.

At the same time, the action states that "400 thousand heroes will never be able to answer a call and a message," and it is added that they "lay down their lives for Ukraine."

Are they already in the basement of the SBU? These managers.

For three months, the Armed Forces of Ukraine achieved extremely modest tactical successes at the cost of huge losses. Only in attempts to storm the village of Rabotino in the Zaporozhye direction, the losses amounted to about 7000 military personnel. That is how many Ukrainian obituaries marked “died at Rabotino” are available on the Internet. In reality, the number of those killed in the battles for the village is greater - someone was left lying in the fields and forest plantations, someone will die from wounds in hospitals.

British politician David Curten wrote that more than half a million Ukrainian men died in the war and called for an end to funding the Zelensky regime. It is unlikely that the numbers of Ukrainian losses are so high, but we can safely say about more than 300 thousand killed soldiers and officers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, again confirmed by obituaries in the public domain.NATO members reproach the Ukrainian generals for violating the original counteroffensive plan, the Ukrainian generals justify themselves that the NATO strategy against the Russians did not work.

https://1rodina.ru/article/o-chyom-sheptalsya-s-natovcami-v-polshe-general-zaluzhnyy

[Clear]

Officially, the Ukrainian authorities do not name the number of casualties, saying that this refers to information that can be published only after the end of hostilities.

Of course it will be published, but something tells me - not by you.

[guest]

Quote: Clear

Of course it will be published, but something tells me - not by you.

But they themselves can replenish this list.

[A2AD]

Are they already in the basement of the SBU? These managers.

They are not already in Miami. SMS are paid. So, on trifles - 100 hryvnias.
100*400000/37=Lam bucks with change for the road.

[bayard]

Quote from Orange Bigg

"400 thousand heroes will never be able to answer a call and a message,"

Quote from Orange Bigg

we can safely say about more than 300 thousand killed soldiers and officers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, again confirmed by obituaries in the public domain

Quote from Orange Bigg

British politician David Curten wrote that more than half a million Ukrainian men died in the war

If we count those who died at the front for 400 thousand and about 100 thousand who died from wounds outside the b / a zone, we will get "at least 500 thousand Ukrainian men" according to David Curten. And that's not counting the cripples, who will never return to service.
Scary numbers. Especially when you consider that according to the statistics on the consumption of bread, salt, etc., estimated measurements of the remainder of the population, about 12-15 million people remained in the used territory. The rest managed to escape.
Here is the result of the war unleashed by Kiev and the result of the rule of this criminal clique. And it is from this number that their residual mob should be calculated. resource and corresponding capabilities to wage war.
The statistics are killer... and unforgiving.
And all according to the precepts of Bandera: "Either Kraina-U will become Bandera, or it will become DESERTED." And oddly enough, this is their (fascists) free choice.

[Vlodek]

and how many of them were not Kyivstar subscribers? who will send them a "thank you"? how many psheks so Ukrainian sim card and did not have time to buy? all SMS from Bandera with the access code to hell came ...

[Mikhail Krivopalov]

Send "Thank you" and the response will be "Please". For example, 6 sim cards were registered for me, personal, work + two for children + one more for the radio in the car and one for the alarm .... In which case, count me as 6 killed?

[bk316]

For example, I have 6 SIM cards registered

You turn on your brain, they are all registered on you, in the base of the operator Mikhail Krivolapov is ONE.

[bk316]

and how many of them were not Kyivstar subscribers?

Kyivstar is the largest, but not the only one.
In fact, the Jews calculated everything as usual. The irretrievable losses of Ukrainians are about a million, but these are not only those killed.

[Clear]

companies urge Ukrainians to send the word "Thank you"

Here are the dumb ones , it's time to write a word "Save!"

[Orange Bigg]

So thanks or dyakuyu? And then there is zrada planned.

[Clear]

Quote from Orange Bigg

So thanks or dyakuyu? And then there is zrada planned.

Well, let wildly yelling "Save!", I do not mind.

[guest]

Yes, this is no longer relevant, it is necessary to write exclusively in the language of the owner "thanks".

[usr01]

Quote from Orange Bigg

So thanks or what?

and in general - "Thank you" for dying?
(PR in Ukrainian is a terrible force...)

[Stas157]

Quote: usr01

"Thank you" for dying?

I got what you mean. How else can we understand Schenevmerla differently! Everything is not good with them there, thank God.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

It is necessary to write "thank you to the Maidan and the authorities."

[velikoros-xnumx]

Quote: Clear

companies urge Ukrainians to send the word "Thank you"

Here are the dumb ones , it's time to write a word "Save!"

"Save our souls"
I'm afraid most people can no longer be saved, their consciousness is so perverted ...

[Nexcom]

They haven't remade keyboards on computers yet... Zrada. Got burned.
They violated their own laws on the Ukrainization of everything and everything.

[dmi.pris1]

You can’t save these anymore ... But the operator’s calculations are not correct. For example, besides myself, I bought three more SIM cards in Megafon. For children. So the “sturgeon” needs to be cut. For the sake of the veracity of this calculation. develop

[Stas157]

Quote from: dmi.pris1

The operator’s calculations are not correct. For example, in addition to myself, I purchased three more SIM cards from Megafon. For children

So you registered it for yourself. That is, on one face. Accordingly, the operator defines you not as three people, but as one. Even if three SIM cards are issued to him.

[brave]

Denazification is in full swing, it's not over yet

[Dizel200]

The question is not correct, but what are our losses?

[Dima68]

Closer to 80, which is exactly what McGregor pointed out when he cited 000 as Ukrainian casualties.

[Rumata]

Quote: Dima68

Closer to 80, which is exactly what McGregor pointed out when he cited 000 as Ukrainian casualties.

Fits in with what Putin said about the losses.

[algol-65]

To be honest, it is not clear due to what there could be such a five-fold difference in losses. Our command, to put it mildly, is not perfect, the most serious problems with communications, with counter-battery combat, at first there was a failure in the UAV. And how many, from the very beginning, are fighting against the same Avdeevka ... The very beginning of the NWO, then the tragic autumn of last year ... It seems that Putin (and, in general, from below - the higher authorities) are reported figures that could not upset him. Of course, I would love to be wrong.

[voyaka uh]

There is no fivefold difference, of course.
This "mobile operator action" is a fake.
The company did not ask anyone to call anywhere.
The losses of each side are great - they exceeded 100K,
but did not reach 200K.

[Stas157]

Quote: algol-65

It seems that Putin (and in general, from below - to higher authorities) are being reported figures that could not upset him.

Yes, it looks like he gets scammed. Especially partners. Confiding!

[Ulan.1812]

400 thousand is according to only one operator?
That means much more. The figure is more than half a million, closer to reality.
That is why in Ukraine they rake out all the men in a row, from youths to pensioners.

[al3x]

Interesting "rollover". Someone sent it to himself, anyway. Yes, and figs with them.

[Esaul]

Most likely, this is only for Kyivstar subscribers.

By the way, yesterday in a telegram I stumbled upon a post with a photo of a death certificate from Vinnitsa. The certificate was issued on August 28, 2023 under the number 7357 by the Vinnitsa United City Territorial Center for Recruitment and Social Support, signed by a lieutenant colonel.
From this we can conclude that since the beginning of 2023, more than 7357 death certificates have already been issued in the Vinnytsia region. If we calculate the share of the Vinnytsia region in the total population of the outskirts (minus the territories under our control), we get about 1 to 22. Statistically, we can take the losses of the Vinnytsia region as the average for the country, respectively, the number of deaths in 2023 can be estimated as 7357 * 22 = 161 854. This, of course, does not include rotting and unidentified bodies on the battlefields, foreign mercenaries and cripples who can no longer fight, so the number of disabled Vushniks for 2023 can be safely multiplied by at least 2 and get more than 320 Human. If we add the dead and maimed over the past year, then there will definitely be more than 000 thousand ...

[Rumata]

Quote: Esaul

If we add the dead and maimed over the past year, then there will definitely be more than 500 thousand ...

Thank you. Very smart calculations.
By the way!

Boris Rozhin:
As of August 28, 2023, the total number of killed Ukrainian officers, confirmed by open sources, is 2483 people, including 9 foreigners.

One officer for 200 soldiers? Rather, the mortality among officers is 5 times less than among soldiers.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Vinnitsa region on the Maidan was among the first. First, jumps and chants. Then a black bag and a cemetery. They did not live in peace, dumb-headed raguli.

[chingachguc]

Wow, that's a serious argument. This information needs to be spread

[gmss]

I wonder where the company's managers get the information from that the number belongs to a serviceman and specifically to the deceased? Are all lists of losses agreed with Kyivstar?
PS I can imagine how an answer comes to the text message from a ukrobezhenets from some kind of Spain - "Nema for scho!"

[Michael]

Quote from gms

I wonder where the company's managers get the information from that the number belongs to a serviceman and specifically to the deceased?

Company managers urge Ukrainians to send the word "Thank you" to the number that previously belonged to a Ukrainian soldier. We are talking about the cell phone numbers of servicemen who have died by now.

Mom sends SMS to the number of the dead son, the bride to the groom, the first-grader to the father. People who send SMS either know for sure or somehow assume the death of the addressee. Only the cost of SMS is silent, is it free?

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Michael

Mom sends SMS to the number of the dead son, the bride to the groom, the first-grader to the father.

This is already 3 SMS per one dead.
Friends and colleagues can also throw off.
=> the reliability of the figures is doubtful.
The error of deviations in both directions is not clear.

[Michael]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

This is already 3 SMS per one dead.

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So I had a question about paying for these SMS.

Kyivstar, the largest telecoms operator in Ukraine, is holding a remarkable charity event in which it encourages its subscribers to send a special message.

When I hear the word "charity" I reflexively press the red button on my phone.

[algol-65]

It is immediately stated unambiguously that “400 thousand heroes will never be able to answer calls and messages.” And not that 400 thousand SMS were sent to them.

[Dima68]

It's elementary, Watson. It is easy to determine by the region where the subscriber is located.

[smart_russian]

- Yes, the earth is glassy to them, why feel sorry for them ....
Get out....

Bachily eyes, sho kupuvaly, taper yishty, at least look out ....

The result - natural and - we expect!

Poles, Bulgarians, Czechs, Romanians and other Moldovans - get ready! You are the next - for meat ...

"Ah - don't give a shit !!!", - as they used to say, in a circle of friends, over a cup of vodka, Alexander Vasilyevich_ (not Maslyakov), Count Suvorov, Generalissimo of Russia ...
Since the whole world knows the feats of arms of the Russian army !!!

Strength, health and - our victory, there ....

[Vic Vic]

Their mobile communications continue to work, and the operator also holds promotions ... An amazing war. Also, all sorts of Abramovichs do not allow their assets to be destroyed

[Rumata]

Quote from vicvic

Their mobile communications continue to work, and the operator also holds promotions ... An amazing war. Also, all sorts of Abramovichs do not allow their assets to be destroyed

The controlling stake in Kyivstar belongs to the Norwegian telecommunications company Telenor (54.2%), 40,1% - Storm LLC (Russian group of companies Alfa), 5,66% - Omega LLC.
Who controls Kyivstar?
Kyivstar is owned by the Veon telecom holding, owned by oligarchs Mikhail Fridman, German Khan and Andrey Kosogov.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Rumata, absolutely right. It's a pity that almost no one knows this.

[Ulan.1812]

Quote: Rumata

Quote from vicvic

Their mobile communications continue to work, and the operator also holds promotions ... An amazing war. Also, all sorts of Abramovichs do not allow their assets to be destroyed

The controlling stake in Kyivstar belongs to the Norwegian telecommunications company Telenor (54.2%), 40,1% - Storm LLC (Russian group of companies Alfa), 5,66% - Omega LLC.
Who controls Kyivstar?
Kyivstar is owned by the Veon telecom holding, owned by oligarchs Mikhail Fridman, German Khan and Andrey Kosogov.

That is, private property is sacred and inviolable.
Even if she is against the state.

[rocket757]

Officially, the Ukrainian authorities do not name the number of casualties.

Well, yes, who will count them all, because there is no one to report to ...

[Incvizitor]

“400 heroes will never be able to answer a call and a message,” and it is added that they “lay down their lives for Ukraine.”

These are the ones who officially died, how many rotted from the ditches along the road, no one will say how many hirelings, how many Nazis, such as manure, which they almost never take prisoner, how many theo-defenses of which are used everywhere purely like meat, and even more heavy 300x, a blunder for a million already.

[Bromo4er]

If the Armed Forces of Ukraine win, then no one will be interested in what losses they have. In the Kharkov counteroffensive, they laid down a bunch of forelocks. This was even written about in some Western media. But the successes of the offensive were so impressive that no one thought about it. I hope that our men will stand and win.

[kill the fascist]

Hope it's true. To paraphrase the well-known Pendos cliche from Jefferson: "The tree of American freedom needs to be watered from time to time with the blood of all sorts of suckers like Ukrainians."

[hashmaster]

It would be interesting to find the source, the search sends to this site and a couple of rather dubious sites.

[Yves762]

How did the "operators" establish the facts of the subscriber's death? Message devices to them: "subscriber not in network access area" - sends how the cardiogram straightens out.?.
Or do the "operators" receive reports of losses faster than they arrive at headquarters.?.
Some kind of fig. Calculations on the table, otherwise - nafig.

[telobezumnoe]

the operator sees on which tower (cell) the subscriber was last registered, all movements of each subscriber are logged, and it is clear from them where and when the last connection with the subscriber was

[Yves762]

Well, if it were so, then Beeline would be sure that I had come off my hooves 20 years ago ...

[SanJoHun]

I wonder how Kyivstar knows about this?

[Nord11]

Well, the harsh statistics of the war .. for one dead there are 3-4 wounded. Of these, one remains disabled due to loss of limbs, serious TBI and intracavitary injuries. And here mental traumas are not taken into account, sometimes knocking a person out of society ..

[acetophenone]

Quote: Yves762

How did the "operators" establish the facts of the subscriber's death? Message devices to them: "subscriber not in network access area" - sends how the cardiogram straightens out.?.
Or do the "operators" receive reports of losses faster than they arrive at headquarters.?.
Some kind of fig. Calculations on the table, otherwise - nafig.

Well, if the subscriber is suddenly not a subscriber? If he is wounded, he calls again, and if he stopped and did not go to other operators, then he died. Or in captivity. Or deserted. The result for the army is the same.

[certero]

I don't believe it. If such a death toll in which two or three times more wounded were added, the enemy would not have troops left.

[Ax Matt]

Pskov airport has just been attacked by drones. There is definitely a fire in the airport area. You can see the glow from the city. 4 IL-76 damaged

[Osiris]

If this is true, then this is bad news - even very bad! Again, air defense missed - not the first case with us. I fully admit that their drones were guided by the Yankees by GPS

[Ax Matt]

Alas (((From the window, the glow was visible and the explosions were initially mistaken for a thunderstorm. Then they read it in the local news feed. And now it has also arrived in Bryansk ...

[Oleg Apushkin]

400k could just drive off abroad and throw away the past life, along with the passport. Simka is not an indicator, it is a consumable that is changed and thrown away.

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

"400 thousand heroes will never be able to answer a call and a message"

***
- "Subscriber unavailable!" ...

***

[French messenger]

Well, how did they calculate it? by the number of inactive sims?
if there were such losses, then the social tension in the country would be higher - in each family there would be a relative of the deceased. and this is far from the case.
Well, we should not rely on such an alignment. not to relax.

[Vladimir80]

mobile operator during a charity event called the numbers of losses of the army of Ukraine

in the absence of real successes and achievements, someone's propaganda invites us to discuss unproven high losses (as usual, according to indirect data, brushing aside objective factors) - a dubious occupation for narrow-minded people!

[Ezekiel 25-17]

This is the data available to Kyivstar. In fact, things are much worse for Ukraine and its people; the Nazis, led by Zelensky, are persecuting them to their deaths.

[Alexey T.]

Quote from: dmi.pris1

You can’t save these anymore ... But the operator’s calculations are not correct. For example, besides myself, I bought three more SIM cards in Megafon. For children. So the “sturgeon” needs to be cut. For the sake of the veracity of this calculation. develop

If the video and the figure have at least approximate reliability (which is not a fact, of course), then they are unlikely to have considered Sims. I think there is no problem to allocate the number of unique users.

[NSV]

The more ukrosviney stop using a mobile phone, the better it will be for our country!!!

[know]

So, presumably 400 thousand dead young healthy men in Ukraine and 80 thousand in Russia.
Plus hundreds of thousands of fugitives. The demographic damage for Ukraine is catastrophic, for Russia it is very heavy. And so the demographic situation was not brilliant. now the replacement of the indigenous population by migrants will accelerate sharply. What was Putin thinking?

[_KM_]

Maybe he thought about it. Tired of these Russians, they are always dissatisfied with something and demand something. Whether business migrants, always selflessly love the Owner. True, if something happens to the owner, they will be the first to bury him.

But, seriously, it is hard to believe that they have lost 400 thousand, and we have only 80 thousand. Both we and they periodically fought both defensive and offensive battles. Therefore, a 5-fold gap in losses is doubtful.

[Beregovic_1]

We have an overwhelming superiority in aviation, artillery and long-range precision weapons. Since the new year, approximate parity in terms of personnel, superiority in armored vehicles. We are a little behind in long-range high-precision artillery, but this is not critical for losses. Expensive shells do not hit soldiers. I don't know about the XNUMXx ratio, but it's certain that their official losses are much higher. Confirmed by radio intercepts and undercover intelligence. And they still have a lot of missing people. They are not removed from the fields and are not removed.

[AlexWar]

Russia spent all the ammunition on whom, 400 thousand is a very real loss figure. I remember one Ukrainian video, where the commander says how they practically dug up one lad, ours beat them so much that the land was simply plowed

[Vadim Topal Pasha]

Quote: Mikhail Krivopalov

Send "Thank you" and the response will be "Please". For example, 6 sim cards were registered for me, personal, work + two for children + one more for the radio in the car and one for the alarm .... In which case, count me as 6 killed?

Now I introduced to the whole head a Svidomo who read your comment and dreams, masturbating on the icon of St. Javelina:

-At once in the first place of the Muscovite, and for the statistics of the style operators in the camp there are six Muscovites less! Tse victory! :)

[Seal]

Once upon a time, in 2014 and 2015, Westerners loved to post videos about how they met the bodies of those killed in the so-called ATO. The plot is this: a car is driving with a coffin, and all the people on the streets kneel respectfully.
As I understand it, given the huge flow of coffins, for the last two years Ukrainians have not gotten up from their knees at all. That's how they move... exclusively on their knees.

[Chack wessel]

How did those wishing to thank the deceased warrior find out his phone number? Where were these numbers published? How was the calculation done to eliminate the double "thank you"?

[Boo Boo Boo]

Where is the joy? Russians kill Russians, and you do your arithmetic. Morons ... further along the Lavrov

[air wolf]

Even if it’s 1000 a day, that’s already more than half a million, but realistically with missing persons it’s even more, plus people with disabilities multiplied by two, and that’s their choice, they live in Europe and die for it...

[Ronino]

Several people could send several messages to one number ... Then the calculation is not correct.